Wow wait this channel has only been around for three weeks?! Dude your videos are great! They're informative, no bullshit but also entertaining. The way you started this video really captured my attention, do you have experience making videos prior to this channel? Anyways, please keep doing this.
Hi Guys, a simple way to get a very good clean sound from a SM58 mic on an instrument is to cut and frequency below 75hz, or some mixers have a LCF (low cut filter) or HPF (high pass filter) which essentially does the same thing. Cuts everything below 75 or 100hz which is where your muddy muffled sound is that would come with recording an instrument with a SM58.
I haven't had the opportunity to use a Beta 57A- would love to A/B it with a normal 57. Is that a newer maple 614ce?? I bet that's a sweet instrument 😍
@@matteliasmusic No it's a 2006 model Big leaf maple back and sides with a Sitka Spruce top ,purchased in 2010 and the sound is just getting better and better
Thank you! I have two Shure Super 55s, want to record guitar but don't want to buy a bunch of 'studio' stuff right now. Thanks for showing us how to get good results the 'wrong' way
With a little care and creativity we can get some really nice stuff from some really inexpensive recording gear! Of course IMO the most important part of getting a good recording is a good performance on a good sounding instrument!
Thank you so much! The only good mic i have right now is an sm58 and i knew someone has found the most optimal way to use it to record an acoustic guitar. Thank you again, you're a saint. :)
Vu Le so I think what I did here was just use the gain on my digital mixer which has decently quiet preamps to get enough signal from the 58. One thing I recommend if you’re struggling to get that signal level without the noise from a super quiet mic like an SM7b or even some type of ribbon mic is look into a Cloudlifter to boost the signal before it hits your preamp. I didn’t have one when this video was done but I do now and it’s a great little piece of gear, very sneaky 😁
Great video! Can anyone help me with the low input signal while I try to record via scarlet solo interface, I don't hv anything other than that, just my instruments + SM58 + interface.
I'm using a Yamaha mg10xu mixer going into the PC via USB here- and yes, with that setup I also found I needed to have the gain extremely high to get a proper signal. Sonewhere close to the levels you're using- which isn't ideal, I have to mention
@@vatolegato as for clipping, there's a sweet spot with positioning and that gain level to avoid it- with a dynamic mic like this, noise can happen but it's less severe an issue than with a condenser mic. It's one of the cool things about using an SM58 for something like this
I've been using a pair of SM58s with an audio interface and got fetheads for both over time. They do really help and the mic sounds nicer to my ears... apparently fetheads better match the impedence sm58s were originally designed for.
Rachel Francis thank you! I believe for this video I ran that SM58 straight into my interface, which at the time I believe was a Scarlett 18i8. There’s some crunchiness to it which I think was caused by my poor job of post production, something that happened while the video was encoded.
hi! the guitar through the SM58 signal is essentially dry if i remember correctly for the purpose of demo-ing the SM58 sound-- but i do notice some digital distortion which i think is related to the audio encoding on the video editing end of things.
The signal path is bone simple, just a sm58 right into interface, with nothing done to it just to demonstrate the way the microphone reproduced the guitar sound
eric pratt so, that’s kind of a tough question for me to give a specific answer but I can tell you in my experience, I have played many shows using and SM57 to mic my cab, and I would typically put it right on the grill cover and offset from the center of the speaker cone at an angle, but there’s no one way to do it. What I would suggest is to test out a few different positions, play the same passage and record it, and listen back to find out which sound pleases you most! As for hum, if it’s so loud that it’s actually hurting the part you’re trying to play, (or if you’re talking about miking in a live situation) I would consider using some type of noise suppressor pedal in the signal chain to nip that in the bud and get those sweet tones without the buzz!
Mostly a waste of my time, as NO one, points the mic ANYwhere except at the sound hole. But frankly, whatever mic you're talking into, you should use that for the guitar. lol
@@matteliasmusic Well, it sounds so good it might just be worth experimenting with. :-) Can you tell me the model? (Your response has already gotten my up-vote :-) .)
Wow wait this channel has only been around for three weeks?! Dude your videos are great! They're informative, no bullshit but also entertaining. The way you started this video really captured my attention, do you have experience making videos prior to this channel? Anyways, please keep doing this.
Hi Guys, a simple way to get a very good clean sound from a SM58 mic on an instrument is to cut and frequency below 75hz, or some mixers have a LCF (low cut filter) or HPF (high pass filter) which essentially does the same thing. Cuts everything below 75 or 100hz which is where your muddy muffled sound is that would come with recording an instrument with a SM58.
1:28 : close, aimed at 12th fret
2:30 : 12th fret aimed at sound hole
3:30 : 8th fret
5:10 : 8th fret further away aimed at sound hole
It sounds great! Like a record from the 70's.
Kevin Sturges thank you! I’d be willling to bet there are more SM58 recorded acoustic guitars on those old records than most people would think
I use the Shure 57A Beta mic with my Taylor 614CE into Marshall AS50D phantom power microphone jack , its a great mic too .
I haven't had the opportunity to use a Beta 57A- would love to A/B it with a normal 57. Is that a newer maple 614ce?? I bet that's a sweet instrument 😍
@@matteliasmusic No it's a 2006 model Big leaf maple back and sides with a Sitka Spruce top ,purchased in 2010 and the sound is just getting better and better
Thank you! I have two Shure Super 55s, want to record guitar but don't want to buy a bunch of 'studio' stuff right now. Thanks for showing us how to get good results the 'wrong' way
With a little care and creativity we can get some really nice stuff from some really inexpensive recording gear! Of course IMO the most important part of getting a good recording is a good performance on a good sounding instrument!
So after listening back, what was the best placement in your opinion?
thank you so much, i'm on a really low budget and cant really afford a better mic right now, this genuinely helps so much!
Love to see it. Thank you, good luck with whatever you’re working on friend
This is a great idea for a video series. We’re about to try using SM58 on our electric’s speaker cab. Would love to hear your results too!
Daniel Herridge heyyyyyy thank you so much! I have done it in the past, it works!!!!! Hope to hear what you come up with!
Thank you so much! The only good mic i have right now is an sm58 and i knew someone has found the most optimal way to use it to record an acoustic guitar. Thank you again, you're a saint. :)
I like @3:30. Seems to give lots of room for a nice pultec low end boost :)
The recordings on my channel were done with an acoustic guitar and an SM58, I use a 57 sometimes....
I like using 57s to mic my guitar cab in a live situation in a pinch- ive also used them for vocals on occasion as well
Great idea for a video! 🔥🔥🔥 How did you boost the signal? Sm58 has a notoriously low input 😥
Vu Le so I think what I did here was just use the gain on my digital mixer which has decently quiet preamps to get enough signal from the 58. One thing I recommend if you’re struggling to get that signal level without the noise from a super quiet mic like an SM7b or even some type of ribbon mic is look into a Cloudlifter to boost the signal before it hits your preamp. I didn’t have one when this video was done but I do now and it’s a great little piece of gear, very sneaky 😁
great video, fun, well presented, and useful
Sad to see you didn't make more, I'd love to see you revisit this idea!
Thanks very much, I’m so glad you enjoyed it 😃! Got any fun/unconventional uses you’d like to see with an SM58?
Great video! Can anyone help me with the low input signal while I try to record via scarlet solo interface, I don't hv anything other than that, just my instruments + SM58 + interface.
thank u so much u are literally my savior, nice video btw
Omg you’re so welcome, are you recording acoustic guitar with a 58?
@@matteliasmusic yep actually i'm brazilian I'm going to record my original song this weekend for lesbian pride day :)
Hell yeah! Good luck recording!!!
Amazing sir
For recording guitar or singing vocal at non treated room ,is it good decision to buy shure sm58 plz reply?
Does it work in live concert with vocal, choir, violin, piano and drums? 😅
@@erlomusic1289 certainly
What preamp and setup are you using for the sm58? I use an audio interface and I have to crank the gain to 85-95% to get a decent sound.
I'm using a Yamaha mg10xu mixer going into the PC via USB here- and yes, with that setup I also found I needed to have the gain extremely high to get a proper signal. Sonewhere close to the levels you're using- which isn't ideal, I have to mention
@@matteliasmusic interesting. Do you get any clipping or noise when recording with that much gain?
@@vatolegato as for clipping, there's a sweet spot with positioning and that gain level to avoid it- with a dynamic mic like this, noise can happen but it's less severe an issue than with a condenser mic. It's one of the cool things about using an SM58 for something like this
@@matteliasmusic cool thanks for your thoughts!
I've been using a pair of SM58s with an audio interface and got fetheads for both over time. They do really help and the mic sounds nicer to my ears... apparently fetheads better match the impedence sm58s were originally designed for.
Wonder what it would sound like to run both the mic and the guitar direct through the interface and mix the two...
Oh I’ve used this before definitely. Pan one left and one right , or blend them together- can make a really full and cool sound for the acoustic
So nice! Like Like Like Like ... use sm58 to record bass
that is one application i haven't done yet, but thanks for the future video idea :)!!!!
Love it mate great work!
Thanks!
whats your signal chain? sounds good!
Rachel Francis thank you! I believe for this video I ran that SM58 straight into my interface, which at the time I believe was a Scarlett 18i8. There’s some crunchiness to it which I think was caused by my poor job of post production, something that happened while the video was encoded.
SM58 works good for Harmonica as well.
Good review bro ..
What kind of mixing did you do?
hi! the guitar through the SM58 signal is essentially dry if i remember correctly for the purpose of demo-ing the SM58 sound-- but i do notice some digital distortion which i think is related to the audio encoding on the video editing end of things.
Is it also good for playing live?
Sure, you easily could use a 58 on an acoustic in a live setting
Is that a Taylor guitar? What model? I got a Taylor 110e
Yes, this is a 512ce. I no longer own this instrument but I do have a 712ce now and I love it too!
Subscribed!
Kevin Sturges thank you sir!!!
Did you treat the audio after recording at all?
The signal path is bone simple, just a sm58 right into interface, with nothing done to it just to demonstrate the way the microphone reproduced the guitar sound
@@matteliasmusic since you're replying let me ask you something. How far would you put your sm58 on a amp with more than usual hum?
eric pratt so, that’s kind of a tough question for me to give a specific answer but I can tell you in my experience, I have played many shows using and SM57 to mic my cab, and I would typically put it right on the grill cover and offset from the center of the speaker cone at an angle, but there’s no one way to do it. What I would suggest is to test out a few different positions, play the same passage and record it, and listen back to find out which sound pleases you most! As for hum, if it’s so loud that it’s actually hurting the part you’re trying to play, (or if you’re talking about miking in a live situation) I would consider using some type of noise suppressor pedal in the signal chain to nip that in the bud and get those sweet tones without the buzz!
Nice
Nice video man, thanks a bunch! I subscribed to your channel and I'll be sure to check out your other stuff!
This is AMazing. I'm in tears lol
Alex Khoury LoL! Thank you, happy tears I hope 😮
ill-advise me!
Mostly a waste of my time, as NO one, points the mic ANYwhere except at the sound hole. But frankly, whatever mic you're talking into, you should use that for the guitar. lol
The lavalier mic on guitar probably wouldn't sound too hot 😂 but thanks for checking it out
@@matteliasmusic Well, it sounds so good it might just be worth experimenting with. :-) Can you tell me the model? (Your response has already gotten my up-vote :-) .)
Lol I'm glad you think so! It's the Rode smartlav+ which is a lav mic made for using a smartphone to record audio.
@@matteliasmusic Ah! Doubly useful then. Thanks a lot. Keep improving your techniques! :-)
way too quiet and lacking power... condenser is the way to go bud