Testing various wheel spacers on a BMW M3 - a DIY Install Guide
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Looks perfect now. I'm using H&R spacers since 3 years without having issues with being unable to remove, I always use a little anti seeze. And about being safe: We are allowed to use them in Germany after having them checked (for rubbing etc) by the Tüv so they must be safe, otherwise we wouldn't be allowed to put them on our cars - just like many other things
Great to hear!
I use a small film of anti seize on the back of the spacers and have never had an issue getting them off. Every time the wheels come off I clean and reapply to be safe.
V V I second that. I use anti seize on the mating surfaces and the spacers come right off without tools.
looks amzing put 20mm spacers on rear wheels and leave 18 in the front
The miss matched sizes would drive me crazy ha ha
They look good Tommy, I run the Burgers too, 12mm on my M5, love them. Burgers will include the wheel alignment tool which helps when putting the wheel back on. It helps to line everything up and not accidentally hit the calipers. Your car looks great!
Thank you! We really need to get together soon. Let me know when and let’s tentatively schedule. I drove an M2 yesterday
@@TommyLGarage Yes we do, I also did a BPMSport Stage 1 tune this week, completely transformed the car. Maybe we can do a cool Fall shoot with the cars?
m3summ hawks nest next week? I’ll post a message for a drive
Awesome video as always! Maybe a little anti seize would help before put on spacers to make removal easier
I have bad experience with it in the past so I decided not to use it. Maybe I just used it wrong, who knows
Ha, I love how casually you do donuts 🍩 lol
Cool as a pickle!
4:25. That’s what the anti seize is for! 😊
True !
Tommy L Garage Dope Beamer BTW
Another great informative video, keep up the great content and the ///M is looking as gorgeous as ever.
Thanks!! More to come soon
I'm running 15mm all around - ECS spacers, no problems, Wish i could run 18 or 20 maybe , maybe one day....
pozdrawiam.
I’m happy to confirm that after a week of running with 18mm I am having no issues
You need to coat a thin layer of anti seize before you install rotors, spacers, and anything that will be under pressure and will be removed.
I just had bad luck with anti-seize in the past. Maybe I used to much
@@TommyLGarage Only a thin layer, otherwise it will sling onto the insides of the wheels and rotors...not good.
oooo yes I love it! I have Eibach ones that has the slots it may be plain silver but I love it!
Eibach ones are amazing
Add a little anti-seize lubricant to the spacer when placing on the hub. Helps with removal when needed
Got it thanks
Great Videos Tommy, much appreciated from Ireland, fitted15/13 Bimtech last week on my 19 430d, just need the mud flaps now.
I love Diesel engines
@@TommyLGarage Only avg. 45mpg but torque makes up for it @ 260hp,, but not the sound. I can get front flaps from UK but no rears, any ideas or recommendations? Thanks.... Keep the Vids coming, if not a diesel one for the "crack"!
Any update on how the burger motosports quality is? I’m thinking about picking up a set.
Now the mud flaps come in even more handy. Looks great
Exactly!! Thanks Mirza
Look is perfect. Those mud flaps are a must before making such an aggressive stance. How is the tire life compared to OEM? Would think the camber that comes on the car from the factory would cause tires to wear at a faster pace with such a large spacer. 🤷♂️idk
Yes the tire wear is bad but I accelerate the wear even more with constant uummmm spins lol
@@TommyLGarage After 3 years of owning the M3, hooning never gets old in the F80. I try to keep my tire purchasing down to a once a year event due to it being my daily commuter.
Hubcentric spacers are perfectly safe. It's the regular spacers that don't have hubs built in that are unsafe.
I agree
Wow looks so mean and aggressive. 18mm do look nice. What spacers would you recommend on my 20" competition alloys? I am undecided because my rear tyres are 285 wide already and I think your 19" alloys are 275 wide. I was thinking of either 12-15mm due to the already wide 285's? What do you suggest bro?
I was very happy with 12mm spacers all around when I had 666 wheels. And honestly they are all similar. Burger tuning spacers are great.
Worth it, looks awesome!
Thanks!
Brilliant Tommy thank you mate💪
I'm going to go for 20mm rear and 15 front
Infact there in the post 😁
Thanks for the well informed and brilliant video it was Awesome mate , I'm glad i now I have subscribed to you channel looking forward to your next vids.👍👌👊
Thank you!! Glad it was helpful and I appreciate the love!
I was just looking to buy spacers for my f80 with the same wheels a few hours ago ! I think I’m gonna try 20mm
20mm will work too!
Tommy, thanks for the great content!
How much do you charge for your awesome mud flaps?
Also, I’d like to add spacers with my 20” 666M Rims/Pilot Sport Plus
•Front: 275/30/20
•Rear: 295/30/20
Emmanuele Design Springs that lower the front and rear about
1”to 1 1/4”.
What size spacers would you recommend?
Email me! got6speed @ gmail
Looks great, your car is beautiful!
Thanks!!
Nice Vid Tommy. Question, with 12mm Front and 15mm Rear, Did u have to align the car? Thanks
No alignment needed with spacers.
Looks good! Are you getting an alignment now?
Great video mate, I have an M140i and have 15mm spacers on the rears and 12 on the front, makes the car look more aggressive. I was told that in the UK if the tyre wall protrudes beyond the wheel arch the car will fail its MOT, not sure how true that is? By the way, I think your M3 looks amazing.
I heard the same thing. In this case I think I’d still pass
Bonjour faut il des vis plus longue pour du 10mm ? Merci
Wei
6:41 i got a little anxiety there
Runway runner hahah I know I know
Looks good Tommy. I like the stance of your car. Are you not afraid of the rear tires not rubbing the fender arches?
I did some testing and they are not even close to rubbing . There’s plenty of room for them to go in and tuck in nicely
Hey Tommy, thanks for the informative video! Did you end up keeping the 18mm spacers all around or did you go with 15F/18R? Also, I had a question specifically regarding the m performance has suspension with the stock 437 wheels, what thread setting are you using and find acceptable for daily driving? Thanks again for all your work.
I kept 18mm all around with 437M wheels
Looks great! Any negatives ? Safety, handling, etc fro daily use??
If not properly there are very few or non-negatives. The biggest one I can think of is making sure you don’t curb your wheels soon as they stick out a little more now
Hey I really would love a set of the mud flaps!
Sure. Email me at got6speed @ gmail . Com
Hey, love your videos and subscribed. I have one question, what are the easiest options to make my bmw m4 (2015) make burpling sounds?
Thanks
It’s a combination of bootmod3 and midpipe. That’s all you need
i drive 15mm in front and rear with the oem 19“wheels but i dont like spacers. the handling doesnt feel good in my opinion. i look forward to buy some wheels with good fitement. especialy for the front
Cen go thats a good point
could i run 18 mm spacers all round all the way down on mp has with 265/ 385 4s's?
Yes will fit. I ran 18mm at some point too
Looks nice, being installed, when doing hard turn or a big bounce, does the front tires hit the fenders..
Not at all. I’ve driven it over various terrain and had zero issues.
Looks good👌
thanks!
hallo have you 18mm to sold?whith bolt????if yes how much please
Don’t have them sorry
I'm actually gonna test 20 front. 15 rear. I have 15 all around. But I think front do cave in more. :)
Agreed. 20 would be great. But the unevenness would bother me
@@TommyLGarage ahh I think I know why m3 rear fenders are wider. On m4 15 rear and 20 front looks so good. And front and rear looks even. Weird. Lol
i put 18s on the rear of my F02. Couple of people said the bearings would have issues. Do you have an opinion about that?
Yes. Won’t have an issue. I ran spacers on each one of my cars. Never had a problem
Awesome video!!! I'm in the middle of buying spacers for my M5, you mind telling me what size tires you have in front and rear. Just to get an idea. Thanks...
It depends on the wheel offset really.
I run 275 front and 295 rear.
@@TommyLGarage Thanks...
You used 15mm spacer also on your 20’” wheels and no rubbing at the rear?
I used 12mm all around with my 666 wheels
Have you done a stud conversion yet?
How many inches did you lower the car with the m performance springs? Any rubbing at all?
I’ve got about half an inch left to go down. Zero rubbing
Are your headlights tinted?
How much do these spacers weigh? It's adding weight in a very crucial spot (sprung and rotational weight)...
They're super light - negligible if you ask me but a valid point indeed
you need a stud conversion kit asap lol, thanks for the info
I do but I worried about how they’ll perform at the track
@@TommyLGarage How so? Worried about running studs with spacers? I thought the stud conversion with some race wheels was the way to go on track.
iDami4n I don’t know much about it. But I’m hoping to run without spacers with my new track wheels
You don't need to go any bigger. Looks really good with 18mm
Thanks! I think so too
Hi Tommy, are you aware if the 18mm spacers all round will look identical on a F82 M4?
Yes they will be the same
Hey Tommy,
With MP-HAS suspension, and on the 19” 437, running 18R/15F did you have any rubbing? Did you ever end up running 18F/18R?
I had no rubbing with 18 front and rear
@@TommyLGarage wat size tire did you have in the front?
Any difference on the track when you removed the spacers?
Nothing noticeable
I really need to get spacers for mine. I know you you drive yours 365, do you remove the spacers when you put your winter wheels and tires on? I imagine the spacing is different when you do.
Offset is the same so spacers stay on all the time :)
@@TommyLGarage Nice, thanks again Tommy
Like ur video ....18mm looks nice...
Will this be same poke on a F30 328i
Great question. Not quite sure but easy to try.
Great Videos ~Can OEM suspension use 15mm?
Yes you can...i ran 18MM without issues front and back
Amazing Video brotha. btw tommy what size tires are you running?
Thanks
20x9.5 +22 Front and 20x10.5 +35 Rear
Wrapped in 275/30 and 295/30 PS4S Tires
@@TommyLGarage Thanks for the Reply check out my 6MT M4 @Volcano.M4 and my Main @youyoux1 i follow you already
Hey Tommy, GREAT VIDEO! I am in process of getting Wheel Spacers. What is the specs of the tires you had on at the time of the video?
Just oem 437m 19 inch wheels
@@TommyLGarage stock tires size?
Hi! With the Competitioin Pkg (20 inch wheels) on a 2017 M3, stock suspension what size spacers do you recommend front/rear?
I ran 12mm all around and it was perfect.
Tommy. Are you going to make a follow up video on the new suspension.? Any issues with the handling and riding?
I think I’m filming it this week, hopefully tomorrow. Stay tuned
Do you have any pictures/videos to show difference between no spacers vs 15 or 18mm?
No spacers is essentially stock. 15 to 18mm is little difference.
hey Tommy, can you link the spacer you are useing? also the extended lug bolt?
You can get all of that from Kies motorsports. Tell them I sent you and Brian will give you the best deal. The burger Tuning kit comes with extended lugs
hi. i have a 2007 320d bmw m sport , ive just bought bmw mv1 alloys with 8 width rim 235/40/18 tryes front and 8.5 245/40/18 . i was running stock wheels with 225/45/17 front and .255/40/17 tryes, . can you advise which size spacers to use, if ive measured right i have 40 mm gap . the offset is 13mm diference when i input figures on will it fit .com cheers colin
I would say 15 mm spacers the is the offset is 13 mm large
@@TommyLGarage i was thinking 20 mm on rear , would that be too much , , , i have no idea if im honest i want r
the staggered look that my stock wheels and tyres gave me ???
What torque wrench and lug wrench did you use to do this job?
Check out this video - everything is linked here.
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is it recommended to have front spacers as well?
Yes at least 15mm
So how do I get these mudflaps?
Have you looked into the cost of replacing OEM tires ZCP spec.?
I don’t even want to think about it :(
Any rubber rubbing when making turns or. Bump?
Nothing. I’m super happy
I have spacers on my M5 but they rub when I goon bumps and stuff do u have same issues???
Nope. Are you too low perhaps ?
What size spacers do you recommend for the 666 wheels?
12mm front and rear. That’s what I ran
I like your DIY’s but this one is way off man. You never ever hammer on the spacers. If the surface is cleaned properly you will never need to hammer them on. I have always used high temp anti seize grease on the mating surface and never ever had an issue removing or installing the spacers. They just slide on and slide off. The manufacturer explicitly states never to hammer them. If you wire brush and prep the surface properly, add some high temp grease, they will just slide on with hand pressure. And when it comes time to remove them they come off easily. And Rogue Engineering makes the beat spacers. They don’t use any notches but instead have a gap around the full circumference. Made of aluminum, they are the lightest ones you can find.
///M nope. Zero chance they would slide in
Tommy L Garage Then the spacers you bought are sized too tight. I can take a video and show you how the rogue engg ones just go on applying hand pressure and fit snugly.
Tommy L Garage www.rogueengineering.com/Rogue-Engineering-Wheel-Spacers-Pair_p_140.html
Installation Information
The hub surface upon which the wheel spacer will be mounted should be adequately prepared before installation. This means all surface corrosion should be cleaned with a wire brush or steel wool to ensure a clean surface. A thin film of grease or anti-seize compound on the face of the wheel hub will aid in the future removal of the spacer. The spacer should slide over the hub without being forced. Using a hammer, mallet or other "tools of persuasion" on the wheel spacer for installation is not recommended and immediately voids any product warranty.
Do you have some problems with rubbing?
Nope. Zero.
Brother i bought 2019 bmw x5 rims. But i have 2015 x5. Can i use spacer to fit those rims on my x5 2015. Pls help me out. Thx
I think they actually might fit without spacers
Tommy L Garage i think new ones r 5x120. And i think bmw x5 2015 stud pattern is 5x114.5. Thx
Tommy L Garage Hi mate any suggestions. Thx
6:20 !!!
A tire ?
Tommy L Garage nice drop is what I meant haha
Hey tommy can I do 20mm front and rear? I’m on 19” factory wheels. If not then I’ll just go with the 18mm all around I’m looking at burger tuning spacers.
Yes you can
Tommy L Garage nice! Thanks for the quick response now to purchase.
Tommy L Garage cool thank you I know you ran 18mm square I’ll let you know how 20mm square turns out. And what’s your email? I’m interested in your custom mud flaps I’m sure I’m going to need them lol
Jenderson Pen got6speed@gmail.
@@jendersonpen7175 so how did they work out.. 20 front and 20 rear?
Time to replace those worn out front tires brother
Do spacers eat up the tire?
Not at all. I ran spacers on all my cars and never had any issues
how much for the mud flaps? f82 fitment?
Email me at got6speed @ gmail
What brand are your mudflaps?
I sell them. Email me at got6speed @ gmail . com
Did you check your camber after?
No need. But my camber is off. I’ll get it done soon
@@TommyLGarage So the camber doesn't change? So I got 295 tires and 10 mm spacers. I think the car is so different in handling on the bad side I'm afraid
Good day sir. Do you have also MUD Flaps for my BMW X5M 2018?. Thanks
Hello. I don’t have a template but could make one but need a local car
Sir Tom. Where are you located? So i can just drive my car to you if you near Alexandria, Va.
Julius Joven New Jersey :(
Not actually far from here. 3-4hrs drive. If its ok sir Tom I have a PM in your instagram and if i can get your add and contact # so we can schedule to drop by my car so you can get your measurement. Thx
@@TommyLGarage what town are you in?
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Warm
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are your rotors oem? where do you get them from?
They’re oem. Never been replaced
@@TommyLGarage factory rotors are pretty long lasting then, since they've seen the track several times. impressive.
Anthony T oh yes and plenty of life left
...You need to clean your Rotors...
Already done recently. Good point.
can you still do donuts tho lol
But of course! Tested it right after :)