WC3 - [UD] Happy vs Sok [HU] - Playday 4 - Doubi Ancient of Wonders Race War 2024
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🏆 Doubi Ancient of Wonders Race War 2024 • WC3 - [HU] Fortitude v...
Group A - Playday 4
[UD] Happy vs Sok [HU]
Cast by: Remo
Date: February 5th, 2024
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Crazy to see how much Happy has been on his back foot against HU these days. The HU players have been cool to see innovate newer strats.
The late expansion for human is the main thing that made human playable against ud precise timings. If humans were still doing fast expo like before it would still be impossible to play against perfect undead haras with destro push on tier 3
@@officialCannisMajoris yes. But also, they got buffed a lot while keep rushing fast expand. And now with delayed safe expand they have stronger earlygame with am3 and canceling ud's mine/harass main, while also having stronger t3 and heroes.
@@nightyonetwothree the patches dont really affect the early humans game. AM hasn´t been changed. Militia just got 5 seconds extra which is of course soemthing. Footies are the same. Towers have better repair rate + arcane drains more mana on heroes but not units. I think it comes mainly down to strategy instead of buffs from patches
@@quackyduck2276 yes, the patches didnt affect earlygame. Just a bit of timing adjusting return advantage to the humans in vs ud matchup. Yet through the time they refused to change the playstyle - they got buffed heroes and t3 units. So buffs which felt "ok they survive to t3, they deserve to have an edge" now comes after human already have advantage at t1.
PS: arcane tower is killer now, also pitlord have castrange nerfed, making it extremely hard to push expand after towers are established.
Humans aren't innovating, they are being buffed to dominance. The late game powercreep vs undead is just unbelievable. Undead has no way to stop human late game on top of having a harder time setting up an expo.
awesome game vs upped UD , what does ud to fight - nothing , just coil + nova , human has to cower mage , uses tones of staffs , swaps to anouther army , make second base , has a perfect timing , be in 3 places all the time .
what is on the left from S. Korea flag?
As I see humans is truly counter race against undead.
I'm just back from watching 4 or 5 matchups of Happy vs Lawliet and Happy vs Chaemiko
He obliterates them both in their games, I think while it might be true, though I don't know for sure, it still comes down to skillful gameplay
Unbelievable
obrigado
Well done Mr SOK!
This is what happens when you nonstop buff human and nerf undead.
What exactly happens? UD are still the strongest race, clear favorites in two out of three matchups. Both Orcs and Elves require a perfect execution to at least have a chance to beat the Undead. Uneead are the only race capable of being 1 fully mining base behind and 20-30 supply behind and still winning or at least make the match very close. For any other race in any existing matchup such advantage is GG by a default.
If UD were not nerfed we would have Happy vs 120 finals in every damn tournament with Laby being third. Would it be fine? I don't think so
@@ab-qj3wowhat are you talking about? Really are we watching the same game? Nobody is saying to boost UD, we are just saying that Humans got too OP against UD… it counters absolutely EVERYTHING. It’s unplayable, So either balance it out… or stop matching HU vs UD is not a fair fight,
And favorite?? Man check the leaderboards, UD has the lowest numbers on the top 50, with only 8 players, And the lowest on the top 100, Favorite of what exactly? And its by far the weakest race at this point with NE.
@@ab-qj3wo UD is so strong that 4 players in top-8 TP league finals played orcs, and only one UD. UD is so strong, that infi can play 0-5 on UD, then switch to Orc and make top-4. UD is so strong that 230 apm Forti winning T1 event. UD is so strong that both multirace players showed their best perfomance for years playing Orc and HU. Strongest race, what a joke.
Soon Happy will get tired of this imbalance and he will start playing for the elves) And after several tournaments, the organizers will urgently weaken the elves)))
@@zhiro12 we clearly do not watch the same game lol.
In Wc3 that I am watching Hum vs UD is mostly very close games with tons of back and forth. That is actually a reason why a lot of ppl think it's the best matchup to watch at the moment, even Remo says it quite often. If you think that UD vs Hum is unplayable by the Undead than how players like 120 and Laby have very close games and series vs Humans so often?
And than how about other matchups? Maybe you think UD vs Elf is balanced? Are you having fun watching the same 9 mins T3 push over and over again with Elf dying to it 90% of time? Or maybe you enjoy Focus or Lyn going wyverns vs 120, outplaying him big time, having 80 supply and 2 bases vs 50 supply and one base and still losing to UD heroes? Cause I personally do not.
that 56:19 good luck is for real lol
Feels like aboms should be good there good vs knights and you force the hu to play at least 2 griffins which you can abuse with fiends and destros and a crypt lord third instead of naga and dr.
Any thoughts?
The reason 120 went aboms but people kept criticizing him for that nonetheless
Abomd are useless. Too slow, too big, clunky
MK destroy aboms. Aboms have very low attack speed and armor and are only good to spread disease.
aboms is kinda nice, they didnt get extra damage from knights (as fiends do) and dont die from single clap. Having few can help (if human a-click and cant manualy target knights to the fiends)
Still, knights are stronger and faster and easier to save with holylight/staves. They also have highest natural armor, making them hard to take off with orb of corruption. While aboms have reduced healing by orb of fire and do extremely low dps themselves (getting plague helps is longrun).
@@nightyonetwothree I think aboms attack speed is too slow, also they are too big and block your own troops if you make more than 2 or 3. Also one is enough to spread the desease to opponent entire army.
human superiority
Хэппи просто решил подзаработать ) против него очень высокий коэффициент ))
Human is good matchup against undead, but i think against orc and elf they suffer a bit.
Against Orc maybe, but they beat Elf.
Sok wp brother
Gj sok
I feel like undead needs to stop expanding on T1. Maybe try expanding T2 when you get dk/statues power spike to pressure human endlessly on T1 amd T2 to slow down humans progress. Seems like humans have figured out how to cancel undead expo at T1 over and over.
same thought, expanding is a mistake for ud imho. Only t1 harass into fast t3 push as back in the days. There is no way for ud to beat human, only if human want to lose by himself.
A Di Đà Phật.
i wonder why happys changing up his strat and sticking to a different one constantly in these games. this isn’t how he normally plays 🤨
good to see Happy fanboys whining in the chat
Stuff is imbalance
Sad day, Sad day indeed
Good to see the pro players finally figuring out what the newbs knew in like 2007, undead literally cannot beat mass tower, just build mass tower and tri-hero and never leave no matter how many times you lose your units, your base will never die and eventually you are unbeatable
Humans are OP at every stage of the game… wtf is this? Better early, better mid and Much better late
DK falling drastically, cant do anything but heal with coil… what a disappointment
You don't understand how UD works. You don't heal, you nuke the op heroes with coil-nova over and over.
Sok had an expansion the entire first game. And then even got a second one late game. He was playing 3 base vs 1 base, and STILL Undead was holding on..
The only thing I can see is the UD's unbalance, not HU. Look at #base and #food every single fight and tell me the OP race :)
@@sergiorodrigoroyo5079you DO heal and YOU don't understand how Undead works.
@@Alex-wg9bino the Undead was not holding. He was being repeatedly beaten.
Humba.
Boring macro lamming hu games
Can't do anything else against op undead
this game is a joke
Still waiting for the losers and whiners who complain about coil nova.Seems to be quite