Best review of this speaker yet! The big caveat you point out is the exact feeling I have with a pair of Klipsch I own and I feel I'm struggling to enjoy because I'm "supposed" to. Thanks for describing my feelings so perfectly. I enjoy and respect each of your reviews.
Feel free to dislike them. They are quite peculiar and polarizing. I've opted to pass. RG Engineering has made a crossover that changes their behaviour hugely for the better. I just might try it. Not sure yet. There are tons of wonderful speakers.
I didn't like them at first but after a year with them and experimenting heavily with placement, electronics and room correction software, they are 5🌟 enjoyable for me. I did upgrade to the 280f, though. The 600m are good but I enjoy the 280f much more. In fact, I'd say to skip the 600m and get the 280f.
one the best speaker review, which explains the sound quality with specific terms terminologies, emotions and phrases, easy to understand rather than playing them over youtube. Good job
You perfectly described what I loved about these speakers, and also the reasons why I later sold them. The way you described high frequency detail, but recessed lower mids was exactly what I heard too. At first I was amazed at all the detail I could hear, but after a few months I started to find the sound to be a bit thin, especially noticeable on vocals. The solution for me was a pair of Klipsch Heresy's, which I absolutely love! Great review.
Man, even though this review is a year old and so many things have been said about these speakers, your thorough review here is neck and neck w/Zero’s. I picked up a pair for around $300 after the new ones were released for a second system so I’m more than happy to accommodate their compromises. I will probably treat the cabinets on these based on the fact that Klipsch fell short in this regard as well but other than that, these can be really fun if you don’t pay the Klipsch asking price. But such a great review and spot on as always 👍🏻
Nice job. It is refreshing to get a some negatives along with all the superlatives most of the other reviewers are giving the 600s. I have owned and tried a number of different speaker brands and find myself always coming back to the Klipsch sound. I have Cornwall 4s as my fronts because music is by far the most important aspect of my home system. But, I am about to order a pair of RP-600Ms to replace a more clinical sounding pair that I currently use as my surround speakers. Having said all that, I can't wait to try these out in stereo music mode (as my fronts) to see if they live up to all the hype! Thanks again for the great review!
Excellent review of this speakers. It's great that you covered low volume listening and pairing equipment. It really helps a lot for people who don't have a chance to listen before buying but to trust reviews online. Keep up the good work...
I'm finding this analysis insightful and compelling, noting aspects of the sound I've noted but not heard described properly by other reviewers. thanks for elaborating eloquently on this speaker on issues needing buyer awareness.
This is the best review of this speaker I own these speakers and I agree with his assessment 100% I wish I could have the upper end of these with the mids of a better balanced speaker
U do a really good job of explaining the sound u r hearing. U explain in a way we can understand. Some other reviver's use words like organic, or transparency, and for us we don't understand organic or transparency. 2 thumbs up to u.
Excellent review I have had mines for 6 months and I am very happy and your right they really do sound much larger great review you went into what is good and bad about these speakers
hey, thank you for sharing this review. I like how in depth you go to explain the sound of these. numbers aren't everything. grasping all these concepts is hard for more beginner audio enthusiasts and this helps a ton :)
I really like this review Srboljub. Thank you. Your description of the magnificent, if not overwhelming, sound stage is what most people hear as their first impression. However your deeper analysis of the sound timbre proves that first impressions should sometimes not count. It may be impressive, and may be what some listeners are happy with in the long term. However, when you talked about the image having only 2 dimensions, and the discontinuity between bass to mid and upper ranges, I knew that it would not be my choice of speaker. I, like you, prefer some depth of sound stage. The misfit at the lower end of the spectrum is an important caveat. You give important advice about what kind of equipment would possibly least exaggerate this anomaly. Those thinking of purchasing these speakers would be well advised to look elsewhere if this is likely to annoy them in the long run. However, as you say, they have some fine qualities too. In their price range they are quite outstanding, and they have sold very well on the back of many glowing reviews. I am happy that you have spoken of the caveats as well as the good points. Anyone viewing your review will either avoid them, or buy with their eyes open deciding that they can live with them at their attractive price.
I own these and agree with all you said. Danny from GR Research fixed the mid range gap issues with his upgrade kit. Once I upgraded the speakers, I enjoyed them much more!
Spot on :) great and accurate review. I can really relate to each of your points. I'd say that these are speakers that work with slightly warmer amp's eg a aarcam fmj a19.
I love the cinema analogy. I just got a pair of these and the very first thing I noticed was how huge they sounded. Wide and tall is exactly right. Pretty much everything you describe matches my own observations. Lots of detail and texture but low mids are weak. Lows are actually pretty good. I find that while they are easy to drive, choosing the right amp is really important. That thing about the hearing the highs and the lows as separate and the overall forward presentation of the high frequencies is definitely aided by some warm bloomy tube amplification.
Great Review. Thanks for your detailed analysis and insights. They were spot on and the reasons I've been on the fence on the RP-600. Maybe I'll just save up and go for the Heresy IV. Thanks again.
I paired my Rp-600m speakers with some 50 year old Wharfedale W70e speaker's that I scored at a thrift store that are in perfect shape. The Wharfedales are very , very warm sounding and are 80% mid range sounding and pair great with the high range detail that the Klipsch offer . I know audiophiles are against pairing different speaker brands , but my set up sounds perfect . They sound like $2,000 speakers . They both fill the imperfections of each other. The RP-600m lack to much mid range , its very noticeable. For example listen to " The Doors" you'll find that the organ/harpsichord sound is very lacking , it sounds very thin. The Rp600m are more of a home theatre speaker and not for music!!
Good job on explaining the speakers and your feelings about them in great detail. What I'm missing is a few more B-rolls to show the producu up close, different angles, show the woofer moving (no songs of course due to copyright), you get the idea! Your descriptions are high-end, now focus on the presentation of the speakers / video creation. Definitely subscribing! Keep it up🤞🏻
Great review! I have these and find the “you are there” sound addicting. You commented, like others have, that vocals sound a little thin. Everyone blames that on the frequency response dip at about 1.5Khz. That can’t be the case since 1.5KHz is above the male or female vocal range. Any “thinness” is probably due to the small bump at 700-800 Hz, which is in the upper part of the vocal range.
It is worth the price. Be sure to get a good clean sounding amp to pair with it. Yamaha works pretty well but I'm sure there's better if you don't mind spending more. These speakers look excellent. Cornwall iv is now my dream speaker.
New subscriber here. Really a great review, I have watched almost every review available for these speakers, and this is by far the best review, you have really emphasized on areas what the others have missed out. I have the RP8000 I use it for movies mainly but after watching your videos I am inspired to listen to music the HIFI way, now I am wondering how to get the most out of my current setup RP8000+RXV6A AVR for music I know this is not the ideal Hi FI way. I will watch more of your videos and learn from them, Thanks a lot for your time and effort, Great job!
GR Research talked in his review of the floorstanders about a big dip at the crossover frequency; I wonder if the bookshelves here have the same problem - hence the 'disjointedness' in the sound. Wonderful review thank you so very much.
I would propose that you test the latest version (RP 600m II ) of this speaker that solved the problem with that dip between bass and midrange. I acquired them few weeks ago to pair with my refubrished Musical Fidelity A1 and I am super happy with the combo.
Great review! Some reviews have been a little unfair...expecting 2k performance. I own the Fives and love em! They aren't like my Wharfedale's but they don't try and be. For 750 bucks for a pair.....good 'value'.
I own both speakers, and your review is extremely accurate based on my experience. As for the "hype train," though, I understand it. I never get tired of switching back to the RPs after dozing with the Kefs for awhile. To make a literary analogy, it's like reading Emily Dickinson (the Kefs) and then switching to Walt Whitman (Klipsch): "The spotted hawk swoops by and accuses me.... / I too am not a bit tamed-I too am untranslatable; / I sound my barbaric yawp over the roofs of the world." That's Klipsch: "Pissing off the neighbors since 1946." Hah! :-)
You can adjust the EQ and tone controls to have more chestiness and body. It takes some tweaking work and the right synergistic equipment but once it's dialed in, these sound very very good. Think warmer sounding equipment. Great critique!
There is 4 other things that the RP600M has that not many reviewer reflected. 1. The tweeter is reassessed in the horn so the woffer and gives it to be in phase with the woofer at the cover point. 2. The reseeded tweeter has not that wide dispersion as a more standard tweeter that is mounted on the face of the baffle. That will make that when you make the mirror trick to find the first reflection point on walls, floor and ceiling. You cannot see the tweeter in the mirror. That means that those frequencies will not because of that find its way to the first reflection points. That is a good thing. 3. It has a rather low in frequency xover point to the woofer. Compared to other 2ways. That makes the above benefit in no 2 in a wider frequency range. 4. The binding post has one mechanical defects. That is if you use as me a single big speaker wire that is not multi strands. Then it is rather stiff. If you unscrewe the binding post to use the hole on the side of the screw. When you tight the bult down it will pinch between the built and the botomo of the hole. But when the "gold" bracket is thinner and will not reach the bottom of the hole. That will result in that the bracket is not tightened down and has not the ideal contact with the binding post.. Just to watch out for and keep in mind. But if you use one if the other ways to connect your speaker cable then this is a non issue. But a great review and maybe the woofer has not the same class/quality as the tweeter has. That is the best takeaway from this speaker.
I bought a pair of RP600's earlier this year...i really couldnt stand the way they sounded when they were new. They fell like they had a big sonic hole between the highs and lows, to me. The bass was very weak. i went on all the klipsch forums and everybody said i was nuts, and that the speakers were great. I kept using them...despite what anyone says they definetly need a break in period. Once they break in, they sound much more musical, the sonic hole disapears, and the bass goes a little deeper. i did end up adding a klipsch sub when one was on sale. i really like them now. The detail they have is second to none. The tweeter is very sweet and musical to me, no harshness whatsoever....or at almost 50, perhaps my ears dont hear treble as well. They are very good speakers. Do they live up to the hype???? Well...maybe not quite.
Great review. About sensitivity I also believe that Klipsch exaggerates the ratings. Bear in mind though that there's a difference of (maybe) 3db between measurements made on an anechoic chamber and measurements made "in room". A typical room will increase the sensitivity some 2-3 db. Manufacturers should be OBLIGATED to disclose how they measure their speaker's performances and there should be standards to "level" all these measurements regardless of the brand or type of speaker. Congrats for the review.
It's such a tough choice: Speakers that sound great with tube amps or speakers that sound great but need clean powerful amps. On the one hand, speakers that need lots of clean power can be so satisfying because of how solid they sound but tube amps can create such a nice glue that brings everything together and makes music sound like music.
There's a video on TH-cam comparing Klipsch's "The Sixes" against a similar product by Edifer (both are self-powered pairs of speakers). During this comparison I felt like the Klipshes were "hiding" some mid-bass or midrange information that the Edifers were presenting very well. This hiding happened probably around the crossover point. Since the RP600s and The Sixes are very similar products by Klipsch, I feel that this slope on the mid-bass could be a common Klipsch characteristic (that I don't like), at least in their smaller products.
I think what you mean by "chestiness"... is that depth of the sound. Timber is a perfect descriptive word... I would be pairing with a Denon DFRA-800H.
Interesting review, and I noticed some of this as well. I own a pair of these. I am using a 12watt rms per channel tube amp. I like the sound but don't notice a lot of sound stage.. The sound always seems like it's coming directly from the speakers regardless of how I place them. Interestingly enough I replaced a small pair of Kipsch R-41M speakers with these. The smaller speakers had more sound stage in that I felt like the sound was coming from behind them and filling the room more. I like these better, but I can easily find them with my eyes closed, where as my previous speakers I would not be able to find them in the room regarding the sound.
I mainly listen to rock. In your opinion, is the base sufficient from these speakers? Also, do you think these would work well with an A/V receiver? 90 watt per channel.
Really great review, probably one of the best I've seen on the RP600m. I think one of the big reasons for the dip and thus difference between the two drivers is the crossover. It seems to be a thing on their entire RP line. If you like the other things Klipsch does well you should see if you can review a Heresy IV or Forte III. With a 3 way design they're much more coherent. Stereophile did measure these at around 90db. Not sure why Klipsch seems to over rate their speakers. Even the much larger Forte III are rated for 99db but are measured at 95.
Thanks for the recommendation. Sadly, my budget doesn't agree with me trying Heresy or Forte at the moment. That said I am very curious about their higher series and I hope to test them sometime down the road.
@@iiWiReviews that's fair. Could always email pr @ klipsch .com with a link to this review and say if they like how you reviewed the rp600 you'd be happy to do the same with a review sample ;) nothing hurt in asking! Keep up the great work.
Great review! Good analysis. Very accurate review. There isn’t the neutral timbre, for sure. However, I’d rather have the clarity and liveliness. It’s a trade off. I’m not that interested in lower mid range. Really it’s only some male vocals that might be lacking slightly. Or some elements of certain classical music.
Those speakers are excellent with most amplifiers, but to truly shine, they need careful amp matching. I have many amps in my home, but really extraordinary results came with UR Simply Italy.
Thanks for the review. I have kef ls50 along with KC62 as well. I also have RP600M in my second home driven by a schiit Aegir. I recently put a bit expensive jumpers and it was new speaker. The original jumpers are so bad. I don't know if you had biwire cables or full range that makes a huge difference.
Such a helpful review! What amp pairing do you recommend? I have a vintage Yamaha CA-810. Would they sound too forward with the already forward Yamaha?
So the takeaway is that they're dynamic no what they're connected to but the depth is missing without a good preamp-dac and mid range without a decent size neutral amp?
I believe your sound tastes are similar to mine. About 10 years ago, I auditioned Wharfedale Diamonds 10.x i guess + Marantz 6006 amp. And among 5 other speakers (like Monitor audio, Klipsch, etc) , I preferred Wharfedales as they sounded very smooth and clear compared to all others.
Great Review, thanks! Are there some kind of vocal sibilance on these tweeters? I'm a fan of "soft sound" tweeters. Will the RP 600M disappoint me? What can you say about the Monitor Audio Bronze 2?
Thanks. I wouldn't call these tweeters sibilant in any way, but highs in general are tilted up and if there's any sibilance coming through from anywhere else in the chain (source, amp, etc.) these will just serve it to you on a silver platter. It's a very similar story with Bronze 2 - no sibilance with tweeters but they are brighter sounding and will reveal it easily if it's coming from somewhere else.
I own these speakers with the R-28 and a SW12. Once I installed them I knew it was the final piece of the puzzle. Very sharp and in your face like you mentioned. The most abuse I give them is listening to Dubstep music and these bad boys make me forget how much I spent for them. Really enjoyed this video because you did explain things the way I hear them and your body expressions were dead on the way I felt when hearing them. Also what nationality are you ? Enjoyed the accent too.
Hey iiWi, at this moment i play with a vintage totaly restored Sansui AU-317(2x 50 watt but more than 60 watt measured).Dali Oberon 5 speakers and Bluesound Node 2i streamer. Sounds great, for my ears at least. Because the Sansui gives a lot of low frequenties, i think the Klipsch RP600 will match good. I love my Dali's but sometimes the bass is a little to much, depending the track ofcourse. The Dali's are 50cm off from the wall behind. Just wanna try these Klipsches, because of the "wall of sound". By the way; the Dali's has 88db sensitivety, but i have to move the volume knob very little to get affortable sound. So that numbers not always says something. I can pick up a set off Klipsch hardly used, that's why😊
As a tone, timbre virgin who lives in townhome with neighbours would I be happier with used LS50s at $750CDN$ or new 600Ms at same price? Mostly, listening to tv, streamed music , and occasional cds at lower volumes. Opinions appreciated.
Best review of this speaker yet! The big caveat you point out is the exact feeling I have with a pair of Klipsch I own and I feel I'm struggling to enjoy because I'm "supposed" to. Thanks for describing my feelings so perfectly. I enjoy and respect each of your reviews.
Feel free to dislike them. They are quite peculiar and polarizing. I've opted to pass.
RG Engineering has made a crossover that changes their behaviour hugely for the better. I just might try it. Not sure yet. There are tons of wonderful speakers.
Good to here your prejudices has been validated.
I didn't like them at first but after a year with them and experimenting heavily with placement, electronics and room correction software, they are 5🌟 enjoyable for me.
I did upgrade to the 280f, though. The 600m are good but I enjoy the 280f much more. In fact, I'd say to skip the 600m and get the 280f.
one the best speaker review, which explains the sound quality with specific terms terminologies, emotions and phrases,
easy to understand rather than playing them over youtube.
Good job
You perfectly described what I loved about these speakers, and also the reasons why I later sold them. The way you described high frequency detail, but recessed lower mids was exactly what I heard too. At first I was amazed at all the detail I could hear, but after a few months I started to find the sound to be a bit thin, especially noticeable on vocals. The solution for me was a pair of Klipsch Heresy's, which I absolutely love! Great review.
I have these and love them. Excellent speaker for the money.
I just bought a pair of these yesterday. I would agree with everything this man said in his nice review.
Thank you Sir, for taking the time.
Best review on this speaker IMO! Thz
Agree. His description and terminology was perfect.
agree too
just got them fairly used and love the sound presentation, very wide sound with huge bass ,new sub
Excellent, very descriptive review! You have a talent for conveying your impressions of audio gear very well.
Outstanding review, I have a pair and I am completely satisfied with them and plan on adding a SVS Subwoofer in a few weeks thanks for the review.
Stellar review of this speaker, honestly probably my favorite and I’m happy to recommend this channel 😁
Man, even though this review is a year old and so many things have been said about these speakers, your thorough review here is neck and neck w/Zero’s.
I picked up a pair for around $300 after the new ones were released for a second system so I’m more than happy to accommodate their compromises.
I will probably treat the cabinets on these based on the fact that Klipsch fell short in this regard as well but other than that, these can be really fun if you don’t pay the Klipsch asking price.
But such a great review and spot on as always 👍🏻
Nice job. It is refreshing to get a some negatives along with all the superlatives most of the other reviewers are giving the 600s. I have owned and tried a number of different speaker brands and find myself always coming back to the Klipsch sound. I have Cornwall 4s as my fronts because music is by far the most important aspect of my home system. But, I am about to order a pair of RP-600Ms to replace a more clinical sounding pair that I currently use as my surround speakers. Having said all that, I can't wait to try these out in stereo music mode (as my fronts) to see if they live up to all the hype! Thanks again for the great review!
love the Review !
Well done! I really appreciate your clean and precise explanations. Thank you for helping me understand my speakers better.
The best review of this speaker to date! Thank you.
Excellent review of this speakers. It's great that you covered low volume listening and pairing equipment. It really helps a lot for people who don't have a chance to listen before buying but to trust reviews online. Keep up the good work...
Spot on review! Though I have the RP-8000f, I feel his description of the sound stage and details are accurate.
Utterly honest review from amongst a dime a dozen pedestrian ones out there in the public domain. Great going . You have me hooked .
I'm finding this analysis insightful and compelling, noting aspects of the sound I've noted but not heard described properly by other reviewers. thanks for elaborating eloquently on this speaker on issues needing buyer awareness.
This is the best review of this speaker
I own these speakers and I agree with his assessment 100%
I wish I could have the upper end of these with the mids of a better balanced speaker
U do a really good job of explaining the sound u r hearing. U explain in a way we can understand. Some other reviver's use words like organic, or transparency, and for us we don't understand organic or transparency. 2 thumbs up to u.
Great review again. Thank you.
Love your reviews. You always provide the pertinent information; you aren't afraid to criticise. I truly hope your channel grows.
VERY helpful, thorough and well presented. Best review of these that I have seen. Good job and thanks!
Great review! I agree totally, as I have the 600`s and the LS50`s. I do find the 600`s can get fatiguing at times but I love the dynamics.
Excellent review I have had mines for 6 months and I am very happy and your right they really do sound much larger great review you went into what is good and bad about these speakers
hey, thank you for sharing this review. I like how in depth you go to explain the sound of these. numbers aren't everything. grasping all these concepts is hard for more beginner audio enthusiasts and this helps a ton :)
These are excellent speakers. I listen to them all day while working at low to medium volume.
I really like this review Srboljub. Thank you. Your description of the magnificent, if not overwhelming, sound stage is what most people hear as their first impression. However your deeper analysis of the sound timbre proves that first impressions should sometimes not count. It may be impressive, and may be what some listeners are happy with in the long term. However, when you talked about the image having only 2 dimensions, and the discontinuity between bass to mid and upper ranges, I knew that it would not be my choice of speaker. I, like you, prefer some depth of sound stage. The misfit at the lower end of the spectrum is an important caveat. You give important advice about what kind of equipment would possibly least exaggerate this anomaly. Those thinking of purchasing these speakers would be well advised to look elsewhere if this is likely to annoy them in the long run. However, as you say, they have some fine qualities too. In their price range they are quite outstanding, and they have sold very well on the back of many glowing reviews. I am happy that you have spoken of the caveats as well as the good points. Anyone viewing your review will either avoid them, or buy with their eyes open deciding that they can live with them at their attractive price.
I own these and agree with all you said. Danny from GR Research fixed the mid range gap issues with his upgrade kit. Once I upgraded the speakers, I enjoyed them much more!
Spot on :) great and accurate review. I can really relate to each of your points.
I'd say that these are speakers that work with slightly warmer amp's eg a aarcam fmj a19.
Spot on
had a pair for 3 months
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Most precise review of the speakers. Perfect job.
Great description. Keep up the good work! 😉👍
After seeing your review, I clicked subscribe. I feel many reviewers only mention the pluses and not the minuses.
What a great detailed review !
I find your appraisal very fair and accurate. I bought some this week. I shall return them. The imaging it sadly lacking.
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caveats very good explained.
helpful 👌
I love the cinema analogy. I just got a pair of these and the very first thing I noticed was how huge they sounded. Wide and tall is exactly right. Pretty much everything you describe matches my own observations. Lots of detail and texture but low mids are weak. Lows are actually pretty good. I find that while they are easy to drive, choosing the right amp is really important. That thing about the hearing the highs and the lows as separate and the overall forward presentation of the high frequencies is definitely aided by some warm bloomy tube amplification.
Very huge sound coming out, that was my case too
Thanks, great review and i agree with you totally in both speakers, Klipsch Kef LS50.
I hope you stick w making reviews - you do a great job explaining to the everyman - I always know exactly what you mean.
Your explanationto detail is excellent. Keep it up. Subscribed.
Very sincere review expressed in pure musical words, easy to understand...great assessment!
like your reviews. keep it up. Just bought these. Will see how it works out.
Very informative review. Just what I was looking for. 👍
Superb review
Great Review. Thanks for your detailed analysis and insights. They were spot on and the reasons I've been on the fence on the RP-600. Maybe I'll just save up and go for the Heresy IV. Thanks again.
IMHO there are so many alternatives in the same price range.
best review on the internet. Great job!!!!!
Awesome description! Clearly informs my decision to buy or not without auditioning them myself.
Now this is a fair review. Thank you!
Very detailed analysis of the speaker. Great job.
I was convinced to buy these RP600M by myself...with your review I'm 99 % convinced to by...just last 1% is listening with my amplifier to the shop.
Great review. Unlike many audiophile reviews, I can actually get what you mean
Agree with your review. Klipsch has it's own sound. The mids can be eq'd to help with the frequency dip.
I paired my Rp-600m speakers with some 50 year old Wharfedale W70e speaker's that I scored at a thrift store that are in perfect shape.
The Wharfedales are very , very warm sounding and are 80% mid range sounding and pair great with the high range detail that the Klipsch offer .
I know audiophiles are against pairing different speaker brands , but my set up sounds perfect . They sound like $2,000 speakers .
They both fill the imperfections of each other. The RP-600m lack to much mid range , its very noticeable. For example listen to " The Doors" you'll find that the organ/harpsichord sound is very lacking , it sounds very thin.
The Rp600m are more of a home theatre speaker and not for music!!
Good job on explaining the speakers and your feelings about them in great detail. What I'm missing is a few more B-rolls to show the producu up close, different angles, show the woofer moving (no songs of course due to copyright), you get the idea! Your descriptions are high-end, now focus on the presentation of the speakers / video creation.
Definitely subscribing! Keep it up🤞🏻
You need to work on that backhand of yours 😁😁
Excellent Review! 🏆 Bravo
Great review! I have these and find the “you are there” sound addicting.
You commented, like others have, that vocals sound a little thin. Everyone blames that on the frequency response dip at about 1.5Khz. That can’t be the case since 1.5KHz is above the male or female vocal range. Any “thinness” is probably due to the small bump at 700-800 Hz, which is in the upper part of the vocal range.
It is worth the price. Be sure to get a good clean sounding amp to pair with it. Yamaha works pretty well but I'm sure there's better if you don't mind spending more. These speakers look excellent. Cornwall iv is now my dream speaker.
That’s why they are perfect for Rock and Heavy Metal music. Good review 👍
well done!! very very good details in describing what you think and feel.
New subscriber here. Really a great review, I have watched almost every review available for these speakers, and this is by far the best review, you have really emphasized on areas what the others have missed out. I have the RP8000 I use it for movies mainly but after watching your videos I am inspired to listen to music the HIFI way, now I am wondering how to get the most out of my current setup RP8000+RXV6A AVR for music I know this is not the ideal Hi FI way. I will watch more of your videos and learn from them, Thanks a lot for your time and effort, Great job!
Nice review, very useful, thanks🤙😊
GR Research talked in his review of the floorstanders about a big dip at the crossover frequency; I wonder if the bookshelves here have the same problem - hence the 'disjointedness' in the sound.
Wonderful review thank you so very much.
Yup! That's the problem. And there is a kit to fix it from GR
I would propose that you test the latest version (RP 600m II ) of this speaker that solved the problem with that dip between bass and midrange. I acquired them few weeks ago to pair with my refubrished Musical Fidelity A1 and I am super happy with the combo.
Thanks for this review. good job
Great review! Some reviews have been a little unfair...expecting 2k performance. I own the Fives and love em! They aren't like my Wharfedale's but they don't try and be. For 750 bucks for a pair.....good 'value'.
I own both speakers, and your review is extremely accurate based on my experience. As for the "hype train," though, I understand it. I never get tired of switching back to the RPs after dozing with the Kefs for awhile. To make a literary analogy, it's like reading Emily Dickinson (the Kefs) and then switching to Walt Whitman (Klipsch): "The spotted hawk swoops by and accuses me.... / I too am not a bit tamed-I too am untranslatable; / I sound my barbaric yawp over the roofs of the world."
That's Klipsch: "Pissing off the neighbors since 1946." Hah! :-)
You can adjust the EQ and tone controls to have more chestiness and body. It takes some tweaking work and the right synergistic equipment but once it's dialed in, these sound very very good. Think warmer sounding equipment. Great critique!
I was always curious how can they be 96 db ?? That is smaller PA speakers range. So thanks for clearing this very important spec out.
A hifi magazine measured the Klipsch and it was 89DB, the 96DB factory rating is highly inflated.
There is 4 other things that the RP600M has that not many reviewer reflected.
1. The tweeter is reassessed in the horn so the woffer and gives it to be in phase with the woofer at the cover point.
2. The reseeded tweeter has not that wide dispersion as a more standard tweeter that is mounted on the face of the baffle. That will make that when you make the mirror trick to find the first reflection point on walls, floor and ceiling. You cannot see the tweeter in the mirror. That means that those frequencies will not because of that find its way to the first reflection points. That is a good thing.
3. It has a rather low in frequency xover point to the woofer. Compared to other 2ways. That makes the above benefit in no 2 in a wider frequency range.
4. The binding post has one mechanical defects. That is if you use as me a single big speaker wire that is not multi strands. Then it is rather stiff. If you unscrewe the binding post to use the hole on the side of the screw.
When you tight the bult down it will pinch between the built and the botomo of the hole. But when the "gold" bracket is thinner and will not reach the bottom of the hole.
That will result in that the bracket is not tightened down and has not the ideal contact with the binding post..
Just to watch out for and keep in mind. But if you use one if the other ways to connect your speaker cable then this is a non issue.
But a great review and maybe the woofer has not the same class/quality as the tweeter has. That is the best takeaway from this speaker.
recessed receeded (I guess that's what you meant)
@@juanmillaruelo7647 Yes. :)
I bought a pair of RP600's earlier this year...i really couldnt stand the way they sounded when they were new. They fell like they had a big sonic hole between the highs and lows, to me. The bass was very weak. i went on all the klipsch forums and everybody said i was nuts, and that the speakers were great. I kept using them...despite what anyone says they definetly need a break in period. Once they break in, they sound much more musical, the sonic hole disapears, and the bass goes a little deeper. i did end up adding a klipsch sub when one was on sale. i really like them now. The detail they have is second to none. The tweeter is very sweet and musical to me, no harshness whatsoever....or at almost 50, perhaps my ears dont hear treble as well. They are very good speakers. Do they live up to the hype???? Well...maybe not quite.
nice review
loved your review. Would love to hear your thoughts on other Klipsch speakers
Very good review.
Great review. About sensitivity I also believe that Klipsch exaggerates the ratings. Bear in mind though that there's a difference of (maybe) 3db between measurements made on an anechoic chamber and measurements made "in room". A typical room will increase the sensitivity some 2-3 db. Manufacturers should be OBLIGATED to disclose how they measure their speaker's performances and there should be standards to "level" all these measurements regardless of the brand or type of speaker. Congrats for the review.
It's such a tough choice: Speakers that sound great with tube amps or speakers that sound great but need clean powerful amps. On the one hand, speakers that need lots of clean power can be so satisfying because of how solid they sound but tube amps can create such a nice glue that brings everything together and makes music sound like music.
good review and your English is impressive
From your excellent description, sounds to me like some deft equalization could make these spectacular. Or some crossover tweaks.
Look up GR Engineering. The crossover fix is there.
They have videos on modding the rp600m to make it more accurate, precise, balanced, etc. A key factor is the crossover
This is how to do a review!!!!!!! Thanks
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There's a video on TH-cam comparing Klipsch's "The Sixes" against a similar product by Edifer (both are self-powered pairs of speakers). During this comparison I felt like the Klipshes were "hiding" some mid-bass or midrange information that the Edifers were presenting very well. This hiding happened probably around the crossover point. Since the RP600s and The Sixes are very similar products by Klipsch, I feel that this slope on the mid-bass could be a common Klipsch characteristic (that I don't like), at least in their smaller products.
I think what you mean by "chestiness"... is that depth of the sound. Timber is a perfect descriptive word... I would be pairing with a Denon DFRA-800H.
Interesting review, and I noticed some of this as well. I own a pair of these. I am using a 12watt rms per channel tube amp. I like the sound but don't notice a lot of sound stage.. The sound always seems like it's coming directly from the speakers regardless of how I place them. Interestingly enough I replaced a small pair of Kipsch R-41M speakers with these. The smaller speakers had more sound stage in that I felt like the sound was coming from behind them and filling the room more. I like these better, but I can easily find them with my eyes closed, where as my previous speakers I would not be able to find them in the room regarding the sound.
It's nice listening to live albums with them 12:33 I had them so low in volume and it still sound great
I mainly listen to rock. In your opinion, is the base sufficient from these speakers? Also, do you think these would work well with an A/V receiver? 90 watt per channel.
@@mikexlr8 they are not crazy with bass and a 90 watt amp would work
Hi, I love your reviews. Do you think these speakers would be suitable for listening to classical music, ie, symphonic and opera?
Sean at Zero Fidelity nailed the review just like your review.
Great review! Would be nice to demo them.
Really great review, probably one of the best I've seen on the RP600m. I think one of the big reasons for the dip and thus difference between the two drivers is the crossover. It seems to be a thing on their entire RP line. If you like the other things Klipsch does well you should see if you can review a Heresy IV or Forte III. With a 3 way design they're much more coherent.
Stereophile did measure these at around 90db. Not sure why Klipsch seems to over rate their speakers. Even the much larger Forte III are rated for 99db but are measured at 95.
Thanks for the recommendation. Sadly, my budget doesn't agree with me trying Heresy or Forte at the moment. That said I am very curious about their higher series and I hope to test them sometime down the road.
@@iiWiReviews that's fair. Could always email pr @ klipsch .com with a link to this review and say if they like how you reviewed the rp600 you'd be happy to do the same with a review sample ;) nothing hurt in asking!
Keep up the great work.
Great review! Good analysis. Very accurate review.
There isn’t the neutral timbre, for sure. However, I’d rather have the clarity and liveliness. It’s a trade off. I’m not that interested in lower mid range. Really it’s only some male vocals that might be lacking slightly. Or some elements of certain classical music.
Those speakers are excellent with most amplifiers, but to truly shine, they need careful amp matching. I have many amps in my home, but really extraordinary results came with UR Simply Italy.
Thanks for the review. I have kef ls50 along with KC62 as well. I also have RP600M in my second home driven by a schiit Aegir. I recently put a bit expensive jumpers and it was new speaker. The original jumpers are so bad. I don't know if you had biwire cables or full range that makes a huge difference.
Such a helpful review! What amp pairing do you recommend? I have a vintage Yamaha CA-810. Would they sound too forward with the already forward Yamaha?
Whats your favourite speaker, considering the preferences you mention in the video?
So the takeaway is that they're dynamic no what they're connected to but the depth is missing without a good preamp-dac and mid range without a decent size neutral amp?
I believe your sound tastes are similar to mine. About 10 years ago, I auditioned Wharfedale Diamonds 10.x i guess + Marantz 6006 amp. And among 5 other speakers (like Monitor audio, Klipsch, etc) , I preferred Wharfedales as they sounded very smooth and clear compared to all others.
Great Review, thanks! Are there some kind of vocal sibilance on these tweeters? I'm a fan of "soft sound" tweeters. Will the RP 600M disappoint me? What can you say about the Monitor Audio Bronze 2?
Thanks. I wouldn't call these tweeters sibilant in any way, but highs in general are tilted up and if there's any sibilance coming through from anywhere else in the chain (source, amp, etc.) these will just serve it to you on a silver platter. It's a very similar story with Bronze 2 - no sibilance with tweeters but they are brighter sounding and will reveal it easily if it's coming from somewhere else.
There is sibilance in a singer's voice when pronouncing 's' sounds. The rp600m has it
I own these speakers with the R-28 and a SW12. Once I installed them I knew it was the final piece of the puzzle. Very sharp and in your face like you mentioned. The most abuse I give them is listening to Dubstep music and these bad boys make me forget how much I spent for them. Really enjoyed this video because you did explain things the way I hear them and your body expressions were dead on the way I felt when hearing them. Also what nationality are you ? Enjoyed the accent too.
Thanks! Glad to hear you like them and the review. I'm from Serbia, English is my second language hence the accent.
@@iiWiReviews living in on of the most beautiful countries in Europe. Awesome. I hope to visit one day. Here in the States I know people from there.
Hey iiWi, at this moment i play with a vintage totaly restored Sansui AU-317(2x 50 watt but more than 60 watt measured).Dali Oberon 5 speakers and Bluesound Node 2i streamer. Sounds great, for my ears at least. Because the Sansui gives a lot of low frequenties, i think the Klipsch RP600 will match good. I love my Dali's but sometimes the bass is a little to much, depending the track ofcourse. The Dali's are 50cm off from the wall behind. Just wanna try these Klipsches, because of the "wall of sound". By the way; the Dali's has 88db sensitivety, but i have to move the volume knob very little to get affortable sound. So that numbers not always says something.
I can pick up a set off Klipsch hardly used, that's why😊
Good review...s
As a tone, timbre virgin who lives in townhome with neighbours would I be happier with used LS50s at $750CDN$ or new 600Ms at same price? Mostly, listening to tv, streamed music , and occasional cds at lower volumes. Opinions appreciated.