Ordered one this weekend. Then I happened to come across your video here on Monday. I’m really happy with my Anvil all in one brewer, so I don’t see any possible disappointments here. And if the is, Anvil has great customer service.
Short Circuited Brewers They are saying that shipping is running a little behind due to everything that's going on. But when I get it, there will be some wort in it quick. I will let you know. Cheers
Hi, For me the biggest must haves in a fermentor is being able to pressure ferment, closed transfer and O2 free dry hopping. This unit cant easily perform those tasks so it s a no thanks for me. I am loving the Fermzilla fermentors right now and they are really super affordable. I also really like to see my beer while it ferments. 100% not necessary but still important for me. Cheers and great vids as always!
I agree I do like those for mentors as well. but bear in mind it is recommended that you actually change the PET portion every two years or whatever the date is on the vessel. 👍🍻
Nicely done video! I like the way you you don’t add a bunch of stupid music to your videos, straight to the point! I’ll be waiting for the next video on application!
I have seen a few of your videos. It feels like you give an honest reviews and not saying good things just because you may or may not be getting paid from company’s for that you got a sub from me
Thanks for the comments I try to give as honest to review as I possibly can. I can't tell you if I was getting paid money to do a review I would tell you that too! Appreciate the sub! 👍🍻
Very cool! Thanks Brian! Only knock I can see is the lack of pressure fermentation. Think it would have everything I would ever need with that feature. Sláinte!
Awesome video Brian its cool to see a stainless conical at that price point. Of course there will be some small concessions, I don’t think that matters. The more homebrewers that have access the better!!
Yeah I think it's a great entry level into a conical fermenter. If you like this one then you can consider upgrading to the G4 when it comes out in a month or so!! 👍🍻
Definitely a great price point. I'm not so worried about pressurized fermentation but would want to be able to pressure transfer to try and reduce as much oxidation chance as possible, similar to how you did it with the Anvil bucket. Also, how is the black plastic piece attached to the main body? Any concerns with it holding up over time?
I believe you can do the pressure transfer the same way that I do on the buckets. I'm not 100% sure how the plastic part is attached. It definitely feels sturdy and I don't see any issues over time with it. I've had the buckets for quite a while and they are holding up just fine. 👍🍻
I wonder if a person could drill a hole in the lid and mount a ball lock fitting in it for CO2 to push the beer out the racking tube? Also when you guys are doing pressure transfers what do you do about the air lock? Take it out and plug the hole?
Nice video Brian! Looks like a nice piece of equipment for the price. I look forward to your review after use to see how it works, and any upgrades you made. The only disappointment is the lack of pressure fermentation.
Yeah there's no way to get the price down that low and have all the engineering it would take to make it pressure capable. The G4 is coming pretty soon from Blichmann. That will have everything you're looking for. At about twice the price of this one for the 5 gallon batch model.
Good tip on position of racking arm & sample valve. I have a Spike and this does look like a good alternative for the price. Interested in the weld quality, which could be included in the post brew video maybe.
About the cooling system, I'd like to see you test your theory about it not being able to maintain lager temps and see how low you can cold crash using a basic 60 qt cooler and ice water.
The buckets won't go any lower than 41f with a glycol chiller. I don't think the Conical will get that low due to the bottom not being insulated. The cone is not insulated according to the pics I've seen.
This or the delta fermtank for making homemade wine? Would the dump valve and more cone shape on the anvil help more with dumping the wine sediment instead of needing to rack?
I suggest doing smallermore frequent dumps on the crucible to prevent clogging. The Delta is not really meant to be able to dump. It is a "clean out port" according to Delta.
@@ShortCircuitedBrewers Thanks, We own an orchard so ill be using 30 pounds of black raspberrys to start, I do plan to keep the berries in a strain bag tied up in the fermenter, would that make any difference as to the amount of sediment? I'm completely new to winemaking, but will consider making beer aswell down the line, thanks!
Probably first part of February for the G4. there is no way possible at that price point to be able to do pressure fermentation. I know it's popular right now but not every style is suited for pressure fermentation IMO. 👍🍻
@@ShortCircuitedBrewers I’m just anxious to see it. I’m surprised all they’ve put out is a quick teaser video and no real photos so close to launch. I hope they send you one first to review
You can do a pressurized transfer with this vessel I do it with their buckets all the time. You also have to take into account there's no way they could have that price point and be pressure capable there's so much more engineering that takes place for a pressure capable vessel in stainless steel. 👍🍻
More plastic parts than the SS Brewtech conical fermenters but in places that might be inconsequential. And if the measurements are off by a quart, that would drive me nuts.
I'm surprised to see such a heavily brushed interior like that on a fermenter. It'll make for a lifetime of difficult cleaning. Do the maker have specs on the grit used / Ra spec for that? I wonder why it's not electropolished.
I don't know that they have any specs for it. but I will tell you their bucket fermenters are finished with the same finish. And they're not hard to clean at all. I've never had any kind of infection or issues with them either
Can’t argue with that price tag! Curious how the temp control will work though. For a 14 gallon fermenter, the coil used for the immersion chiller seems a bit small. Would probably be tough to ferment a lager with only ice water. Love that they were able to get a butterfly valve and conical bottom for so cheap!
I just received my 14 gallon version. I've ordered the (small) Blichmann HERMS coil that will be side-mounted a` la SS Brewtech Chronical cooling setup.
@@ShortCircuitedBrewers The Blichmann HERMS coil has weldless bulkhead connections, so it's semi-permanent ... but very easy to disassemble for periodic thorough cleaning and changing out of the O-rings. It WILL require drilling 2 holes in the sidewall of the conical, so it's a permanent modification of the vessel. Again, this is the same cooling configuration as SS Brewtech uses on their Chronical BME. I'll essentially have all the functionality of the 14 gal SSB Chronical with cooling for less than $450 all-in. I have 3 of the Anvil Buckets that I modified in this same fashion with smaller coils and they work great - did those 2+ years ago before Anvil came out with their cooling accessory option. I made my own neoprene jackets as well with velcro closures. I can lager and cold crash to mid-30's in my garage in NC in summertime no problem using a hydroponics/aquarium cooling chiller (Active Aqua).
Seems like a great price for what is most likely some quality equipment. If it were 15 psi rated I’d be a buyer. CIP seems like overkill though. Being able to remove full diameter lid allows that thing to be cleaned super fast.
15 psi capable would add a lot of dollars to the price, with all the extra metal and engineering it would take to accomplish that. CIP is for the lazy . Lol me Included! 👍🍻
@@ShortCircuitedBrewers For sure. Thank you as always. I was noticing when I rotate the dip tube it would catch sometimes and become loose on the outside. I think the lube will do the trick.
@@ShortCircuitedBrewers I was cleaning my crucible with pbw and hot water. It was filled with hot water from the tap. It sat for about 20 mins. I lifted it to drain it out and the conical came out of the plastic legs. It would appear that hot water causes the plastic to heat up and the fermenter comes out of the whole thing. Reached out to anvil, it’s not supposed to do that.
@@ShortCircuitedBrewers they told me that it’s not designed to do that, and said nothing about adhesive warming up etc. they just told me to get silicone adhesive and glue it in place if I continue to have the issue.
If this fermenter had a tri-clamp racking port, a thermowell port and an option for an upgraded lid, I'd gladly pay a little more and grab this over the blichman. But alas this has one or two little deal breakers for me and the price point I think is too low. It's half the price of it's competition. I think with a few more small upgrades and $50 dollar higher price, they could have really had something here. Very close though.
I am not really sure what the amazing delta's are between this unit and their bucket. Without being able to do a pressure transfer above 1-2PSI like the bucket you are basically paying over double to be able to dump trub (with the introduction of oxygen I assume). Given modern knowledge of not needing to do secondary vessel fermentation (trub separation) there does not appear to be much additional value there. I love my Anvil buckets but this is a total fail without pressure fermentation. People may scream yeast collection but overbuilding starters is a super clean and easy way; especially when you consider dry hopping and the impact on clean yeast harvest. Brian I love your videos, but knowing what I do now being fairly neutral in your opinion is not serving the community by just flashing a quick text disclosure the unit does not do pressure fermentation. It is a fairly big deal; especially compared to the cost deltas when buying the bucket versus this.
There are plenty of ways to dump trub without oxygen introduction. I have used a cold crash guardian in many instances and had no introduction of oxygen. I certainly understand your opinion on the pressure fermentation aspect, however the engineering and additional equipment needed raises the price point well beyond the level this fermenter is. Not every yeast benefits from pressure fermentation. I don't know why people think that is the"end all, be all" in fermentation these days. Sure if all you brew are NEIPA then you pressure ferment everything. Sure over building a starter is a good way to harvest yeast, but that also adds to equipment costs outside of having a fermenter. But hey to each their own. I just present the product if you want it fine, if you don't fine. It's up to the person purchasing it to decide. 👍🍻
I think your criticism is fair for the 7 gal version, but I think the 14 gal unit at $325 is a steal ... which is why I bought it and just received it. I have 3 of the Anvil buckets, bought the first over 2 years ago and have been VERY happy with them. I wanted a vessel for 10 gal batches and this was too good to pass up. I'm looking forward to being able to dump trub and harvest clean yeast prior to dry hopping.
@@jeffreylahaye1238 Yeah I own 3 of their buckets as well and love them, but wish they were slightly larger as I can pull off a 6.5-7 gallon batch with my Anvil 10.5 but cannot fit it. Seems like the similiar size conical version is actually smaller.
I understand your concern. The bucket for mentors are finished the same way and I've run many batches through them with no issue at all. polishing unfortunately takes hours and hours of labor which would drive the cost way up. 👍🍻
It's a shame it's not pressurized fermentation capable...yet give Blichmann sometime I bet they will find a way to make a affordable accessory or perhaps 2022 models as a option cheers!
No way at the price point you could ever expect pressure fermentation out of this vessel. There is way too much engineering and design that would be involved to make this a pressure capable vessel. You mentioned Blichmann, they are coming out with the G4 fermenter which I will be reviewing as well. It will have all of the bells and all the whistles but not at that price point. I believe the G4 will be a great value as well. The 5 gallon batch version I believe is going to be $549.
With the Anvil crucible you're really not comparing apples to apples. The Delta ferm tank is a great piece of equipment but the bottom dump is not a true yeast harvesting device. As stated on their website and in my testing it's more of a clean out port. One advantage the Delta has over the crucible is the cooling system is better than the Crucible. And the footprint is smaller on the ferm tank. It kind of comes down to what your end goal is and how much space you have, And if you are wanting to do traditional lagering techniques. For simple ale fermentation either for mentor will work very well. I know that's not a straight answer but I would rather give you the pros and cons of each and let you make up your mind based on your needs. 👍🍻
Only you can do that. Some would argue getting the beer off of the yeast will improve it. One other plus is that you can dump some of the trub prior to fermentation for a possibily cleaner fermentation and less haze in the final product. 👍🍻
@@ShortCircuitedBrewers Brian, I get all that. But truth is that I have tasted many home brews, as I am sure you have. Some of the best I have experienced are fermented in a bucket. I think the home brew world has gotten smitten with gadgets. And that's fine. I am not judging. If someone wants to drop $$$ on cool stuff, then I wish them the best. But lets face it, it's not gadgets that make great beer.
@@dennissauer8153 I completely agree. More gadgets doesn't make better beer. Nor do I think "you gotta buy this!!" I'm just presenting a product people are interested in. At the end of the day it's up to the brewer. 👍🍻
No I just did that because I have a really serious problem with my hands right now cracking in the winter time and if I do any kind of manual stuff it makes it worse. too many years in the auto body industry working with chemicals and no gloves on. If only I could go back and tell my younger self not to do such a stupid thing!!
@@ShortCircuitedBrewers Well, whaddayouknow. I started at 18 in a auto shop repairing fords with all that asbestos, grease & chemichals. Gloves were not invented then nor was rebreathers or hearing protection. Worked there for years and years
I know that's the big trend right now. However not all beers are candidates for that process. The G4 is coming from Blichmann that will be a pretty good option. 👍🍻
You can do closed pressure transfers with it. not at say 10 or 15 PSI but you can do it at 2 to 3 PSI I do it with their buckets all the time. Which are the same design lid as what the crucible has. 👍🍻
@@ShortCircuitedBrewers Good to know. Nevertheless, not being able to properly hold suitable pressure, like many other offerings, is a deal breaker for me.
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Great to see you back Brian :) It is always nice to see functional equipment at an affordable price.
Thanks David!! 👍🍻
Anvil kills it in their price range! Can't wait for the G4 fermenters to come out though!
Me too!! Thanks guys!! 👍🍻
He’s back!!! Great video! Looking forward to seeing you put it to the test.
Yes sir!! Will be testing it out and reporting back! 👍🍻
Ordered one this weekend. Then I happened to come across your video here on Monday. I’m really happy with my Anvil all in one brewer, so I don’t see any possible disappointments here. And if the is, Anvil has great customer service.
True on all points!! Let me know how you like it! 👍🍻
Short Circuited Brewers They are saying that shipping is running a little behind due to everything that's going on. But when I get it, there will be some wort in it quick. I will let you know. Cheers
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Great video! Just got the Crucible 14 today! Can't wait to use it! 🍻
Awesome!! Let me know what you think!
Hi, For me the biggest must haves in a fermentor is being able to pressure ferment, closed transfer and O2 free dry hopping. This unit cant easily perform those tasks so it s a no thanks for me. I am loving the Fermzilla fermentors right now and they are really super affordable. I also really like to see my beer while it ferments. 100% not necessary but still important for me. Cheers and great vids as always!
I agree I do like those for mentors as well. but bear in mind it is recommended that you actually change the PET portion every two years or whatever the date is on the vessel. 👍🍻
Nicely done video! I like the way you you don’t add a bunch of stupid music to your videos, straight to the point! I’ll be waiting for the next video on application!
Thanks!! 👍🍻
Very nice product for the price point! Can’t wait to see it at work. Hope you and Kelly are staying safe. 🍻
We are! It is a great value for sure! 👍🍻
I have seen a few of your videos. It feels like you give an honest reviews and not saying good things just because you may or may not be getting paid from company’s for that you got a sub from me
Thanks for the comments I try to give as honest to review as I possibly can. I can't tell you if I was getting paid money to do a review I would tell you that too! Appreciate the sub! 👍🍻
Great detail and overview! Super interested in some of the upcoming accessories.
Yeah I want to check them out too! 👍🍻
Nice video Brian, I have been looking forward to a review of this item also! Thank you for your help to the home brewing community!
Thanks for watching and commenting!! 👍🍻
So happy to see another video
Haha good to be back! 👍🍻
Good one! I'm trying to decide which one to buy. This one looks pretty good bang for the buck!
It definitely is! 👍🍻
Very cool! Thanks Brian! Only knock I can see is the lack of pressure fermentation. Think it would have everything I would ever need with that feature. Sláinte!
Cheers!! 👍🍻
Awesome video Brian its cool to see a stainless conical at that price point. Of course there will be some small concessions, I don’t think that matters. The more homebrewers that have access the better!!
Yeah I think it's a great entry level into a conical fermenter. If you like this one then you can consider upgrading to the G4 when it comes out in a month or so!! 👍🍻
Thanks for the info. Mine will be here tomorrow. For the price I couldn’t not get one.
Yeah I think it's a great value I have to say!! 👍🍻
Looks great and nice price point
Yes sir!! 👍🍻
Solid video braj! Nice catch on the calibration as I've always said "system over recipe". See you in an hour
Cheers Braj!! 👍🍻
Nice. For the price point that is very tempting if you wanna upgrade. Cheers Sir!
I don't think you can beat it for the price to value consideration! 👍🍻
Thanks Brian, looking forward to your follow-up. 🍻
Yes sir!! 👍🍻
Definitely a great price point. I'm not so worried about pressurized fermentation but would want to be able to pressure transfer to try and reduce as much oxidation chance as possible, similar to how you did it with the Anvil bucket. Also, how is the black plastic piece attached to the main body? Any concerns with it holding up over time?
I believe you can do the pressure transfer the same way that I do on the buckets. I'm not 100% sure how the plastic part is attached. It definitely feels sturdy and I don't see any issues over time with it. I've had the buckets for quite a while and they are holding up just fine. 👍🍻
I wonder if a person could drill a hole in the lid and mount a ball lock fitting in it for CO2 to push the beer out the racking tube? Also when you guys are doing pressure transfers what do you do about the air lock? Take it out and plug the hole?
They make a kit to closed loop transfer.. 👍🍻
Nice! Ive been looking forward to this one.
Irs a great value!! 👍🍻
Nice video Brian! Looks like a nice piece of equipment for the price. I look forward to your review after use to see how it works, and any upgrades you made. The only disappointment is the lack of pressure fermentation.
Yeah there's no way to get the price down that low and have all the engineering it would take to make it pressure capable. The G4 is coming pretty soon from Blichmann. That will have everything you're looking for. At about twice the price of this one for the 5 gallon batch model.
Great video. When you said you can't lager with the cooling accessory, did you mean without a glycol chiller using just ice?
Well I guess that depends on what you consider lagering. If 41f is cold enough then you can. But that's as cold as it could get. 👍🍻
Good tip on position of racking arm & sample valve. I have a Spike and this does look like a good alternative for the price. Interested in the weld quality, which could be included in the post brew video maybe.
It is a very clean weld on all the seams. It is robotic welded. I'll cover it in a future video. 👍🍻
She’s a beaut Clark!
Heck yeah!! 👍🍻
About the cooling system, I'd like to see you test your theory about it not being able to maintain lager temps and see how low you can cold crash using a basic 60 qt cooler and ice water.
The buckets won't go any lower than 41f with a glycol chiller. I don't think the Conical will get that low due to the bottom not being insulated. The cone is not insulated according to the pics I've seen.
This or the delta fermtank for making homemade wine? Would the dump valve and more cone shape on the anvil help more with dumping the wine sediment instead of needing to rack?
I suggest doing smallermore frequent dumps on the crucible to prevent clogging. The Delta is not really meant to be able to dump. It is a "clean out port" according to Delta.
@@ShortCircuitedBrewers Thanks, We own an orchard so ill be using 30 pounds of black raspberrys to start, I do plan to keep the berries in a strain bag tied up in the fermenter, would that make any difference as to the amount of sediment? I'm completely new to winemaking, but will consider making beer aswell down the line, thanks!
@@Bryan-ru9zh it will definitely cut down on the sediment. Not a bad idea.
What’s up with the orange gloves? Nicely done overview.
Haha.. my hands have been really cracked recently.. plus anvil is orange right!! Lol thanks Paul! 👍🍻
Thanks Brian for creating a new need lol, Cheers
Haha!! 👍🍻
Love your review. Too bad it’s not a pressurized fermenter. Any news on the G4?
Probably first part of February for the G4. there is no way possible at that price point to be able to do pressure fermentation. I know it's popular right now but not every style is suited for pressure fermentation IMO. 👍🍻
@@ShortCircuitedBrewers I’m just anxious to see it. I’m surprised all they’ve put out is a quick teaser video and no real photos so close to launch. I hope they send you one first to review
@@silveraven1 there is a pic in the latest BYO mag.
Looks great did you try it out yet
Not yet just got it a couple days before the video. Should have wort in It shortly. 👍🍻
Kinda wish it had a thermal well , will most likely buy the 14 gal.
The cooling kit has a thermal well built into the stopper.
@@ShortCircuitedBrewers excellent.
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What is the full assembly height without the airlock on? Just curious to see if this will fit in a 5 ft chest freezer
I put all that information in the description.
Nice price but seems they missed pressurization big time. Besides fermenting under pressure I really enjoy pressure capability for transfers too.
You can do a pressurized transfer with this vessel I do it with their buckets all the time. You also have to take into account there's no way they could have that price point and be pressure capable there's so much more engineering that takes place for a pressure capable vessel in stainless steel. 👍🍻
More plastic parts than the SS Brewtech conical fermenters but in places that might be inconsequential. And if the measurements are off by a quart, that would drive me nuts.
I hear you. They will be fixing the issue. 👍🍻
The price is good however haven't seen them on this side of the pond
Yeah it's only available in the US right now.
I'm surprised to see such a heavily brushed interior like that on a fermenter. It'll make for a lifetime of difficult cleaning. Do the maker have specs on the grit used / Ra spec for that? I wonder why it's not electropolished.
I don't know that they have any specs for it. but I will tell you their bucket fermenters are finished with the same finish. And they're not hard to clean at all. I've never had any kind of infection or issues with them either
Can’t argue with that price tag! Curious how the temp control will work though. For a 14 gallon fermenter, the coil used for the immersion chiller seems a bit small. Would probably be tough to ferment a lager with only ice water. Love that they were able to get a butterfly valve and conical bottom for so cheap!
I agree it would be difficult to hit lager temps. It will do ale just for though. It is a great value! 👍🍻
I just received my 14 gallon version. I've ordered the (small) Blichmann HERMS coil that will be side-mounted a` la SS Brewtech Chronical cooling setup.
So you're going to mount that inside the conical permanently?
@@ShortCircuitedBrewers The Blichmann HERMS coil has weldless bulkhead connections, so it's semi-permanent ... but very easy to disassemble for periodic thorough cleaning and changing out of the O-rings. It WILL require drilling 2 holes in the sidewall of the conical, so it's a permanent modification of the vessel. Again, this is the same cooling configuration as SS Brewtech uses on their Chronical BME. I'll essentially have all the functionality of the 14 gal SSB Chronical with cooling for less than $450 all-in.
I have 3 of the Anvil Buckets that I modified in this same fashion with smaller coils and they work great - did those 2+ years ago before Anvil came out with their cooling accessory option. I made my own neoprene jackets as well with velcro closures. I can lager and cold crash to mid-30's in my garage in NC in summertime no problem using a hydroponics/aquarium cooling chiller (Active Aqua).
@@jeffreylahaye1238 awesome!! Can you shoot me a couple photos? Brian@shortcircuitedbrewers.com I'd like to share your idea! 👍🍻
Seems like a great price for what is most likely some quality equipment. If it were 15 psi rated I’d be a buyer.
CIP seems like overkill though. Being able to remove full diameter lid allows that thing to be cleaned super fast.
15 psi capable would add a lot of dollars to the price, with all the extra metal and engineering it would take to accomplish that. CIP is for the lazy . Lol me Included! 👍🍻
Agreed on the additional unitank $. I’m not opposed to paying for future Anvil budget unitank if they ever make one though.
Blichmann G4 is coming!!! Everything you wanted in a fermentation vessel.. with a good price, but I'll know all the details soon on that one!! 👍🍻
Look very good!!!
Game changer!! 👍🍻
is this intended to be a competitor to the Spike Brewing Flex?
How does it compare
No it's not a competitor to that vessel. Just a conical fermenter at a good price. The flex is not a conical.
What type of lube do you recommend using? I’ve been having issues with that connection on my foundry.
Keg lube will work. That's what I used on that video. Make sure the inner abd outer shell is aligned properly for a good deal as well.👍🍻
@@ShortCircuitedBrewers For sure. Thank you as always. I was noticing when I rotate the dip tube it would catch sometimes and become loose on the outside. I think the lube will do the trick.
Awesome!! Hope it helps! 👍🍻
Have you come across any issues with the crucible? I found a possible flaw with the 14.5 gallon.
I have not. What do you have?
@@ShortCircuitedBrewers I was cleaning my crucible with pbw and hot water. It was filled with hot water from the tap. It sat for about 20 mins. I lifted it to drain it out and the conical came out of the plastic legs. It would appear that hot water causes the plastic to heat up and the fermenter comes out of the whole thing. Reached out to anvil, it’s not supposed to do that.
@@Hacky2447 uuuhh nope. Don't think so!! Sounds like the adhesive was softened by the heat. Let me know what they say.
@@ShortCircuitedBrewers they told me that it’s not designed to do that, and said nothing about adhesive warming up etc. they just told me to get silicone adhesive and glue it in place if I continue to have the issue.
@@Hacky2447 yep that's what I thought. Probably not meant for high heat. Not a big deal IMO
If this fermenter had a tri-clamp racking port, a thermowell port and an option for an upgraded lid, I'd gladly pay a little more and grab this over the blichman. But alas this has one or two little deal breakers for me and the price point I think is too low. It's half the price of it's competition. I think with a few more small upgrades and $50 dollar higher price, they could have really had something here. Very close though.
I am not really sure what the amazing delta's are between this unit and their bucket. Without being able to do a pressure transfer above 1-2PSI like the bucket you are basically paying over double to be able to dump trub (with the introduction of oxygen I assume). Given modern knowledge of not needing to do secondary vessel fermentation (trub separation) there does not appear to be much additional value there. I love my Anvil buckets but this is a total fail without pressure fermentation. People may scream yeast collection but overbuilding starters is a super clean and easy way; especially when you consider dry hopping and the impact on clean yeast harvest. Brian I love your videos, but knowing what I do now being fairly neutral in your opinion is not serving the community by just flashing a quick text disclosure the unit does not do pressure fermentation. It is a fairly big deal; especially compared to the cost deltas when buying the bucket versus this.
There are plenty of ways to dump trub without oxygen introduction. I have used a cold crash guardian in many instances and had no introduction of oxygen. I certainly understand your opinion on the pressure fermentation aspect, however the engineering and additional equipment needed raises the price point well beyond the level this fermenter is. Not every yeast benefits from pressure fermentation. I don't know why people think that is the"end all, be all" in fermentation these days. Sure if all you brew are NEIPA then you pressure ferment everything. Sure over building a starter is a good way to harvest yeast, but that also adds to equipment costs outside of having a fermenter. But hey to each their own. I just present the product if you want it fine, if you don't fine. It's up to the person purchasing it to decide. 👍🍻
I think your criticism is fair for the 7 gal version, but I think the 14 gal unit at $325 is a steal ... which is why I bought it and just received it. I have 3 of the Anvil buckets, bought the first over 2 years ago and have been VERY happy with them. I wanted a vessel for 10 gal batches and this was too good to pass up. I'm looking forward to being able to dump trub and harvest clean yeast prior to dry hopping.
@@jeffreylahaye1238 yeah the buckets are awesome! I have a couple myself.
@@jeffreylahaye1238 Yeah I own 3 of their buckets as well and love them, but wish they were slightly larger as I can pull off a 6.5-7 gallon batch with my Anvil 10.5 but cannot fit it. Seems like the similiar size conical version is actually smaller.
How could you cold crash with it???? Or Lager
Put it in a fermentation cabinet or fridge. 👍🍻
GREAT value option but the level of finishing (or lack there of) polished interior surface would scare me a lot. Looks pretty rough
I understand your concern. The bucket for mentors are finished the same way and I've run many batches through them with no issue at all. polishing unfortunately takes hours and hours of labor which would drive the cost way up. 👍🍻
It's a shame it's not pressurized fermentation capable...yet give Blichmann sometime I bet they will find a way to make a affordable accessory or perhaps 2022 models as a option cheers!
No way at the price point you could ever expect pressure fermentation out of this vessel. There is way too much engineering and design that would be involved to make this a pressure capable vessel. You mentioned Blichmann, they are coming out with the G4 fermenter which I will be reviewing as well. It will have all of the bells and all the whistles but not at that price point. I believe the G4 will be a great value as well. The 5 gallon batch version I believe is going to be $549.
@@ShortCircuitedBrewers Looking forward to the video!
@@willmyers9013 looking forward to getting my hands on it!! 👍🍻
You can’t lager? Can you cold crash?
What do you define as cold crash temp?
35-40 F
It will get down to 41f with a glycol chiller attached. But that's with the chiller circulating 100% of the time .
Anvil or delta fermenter?
With the Anvil crucible you're really not comparing apples to apples. The Delta ferm tank is a great piece of equipment but the bottom dump is not a true yeast harvesting device. As stated on their website and in my testing it's more of a clean out port. One advantage the Delta has over the crucible is the cooling system is better than the Crucible. And the footprint is smaller on the ferm tank. It kind of comes down to what your end goal is and how much space you have, And if you are wanting to do traditional lagering techniques. For simple ale fermentation either for mentor will work very well. I know that's not a straight answer but I would rather give you the pros and cons of each and let you make up your mind based on your needs. 👍🍻
@@ShortCircuitedBrewers Thanks. That’s what I was thinking. I don’t typically harvest my yeast and I like the cooling on the delta system.
There you go! 👍🍻
It's nice but will my beer be better?
Only you can do that. Some would argue getting the beer off of the yeast will improve it. One other plus is that you can dump some of the trub prior to fermentation for a possibily cleaner fermentation and less haze in the final product. 👍🍻
@@ShortCircuitedBrewers Brian, I get all that. But truth is that I have tasted many home brews, as I am sure you have. Some of the best I have experienced are fermented in a bucket. I think the home brew world has gotten smitten with gadgets. And that's fine. I am not judging. If someone wants to drop $$$ on cool stuff, then I wish them the best. But lets face it, it's not gadgets that make great beer.
@@dennissauer8153 I completely agree. More gadgets doesn't make better beer. Nor do I think "you gotta buy this!!" I'm just presenting a product people are interested in. At the end of the day it's up to the brewer. 👍🍻
@@ShortCircuitedBrewers Agreed. Appreciate your dedication to this great hobby.
@@dennissauer8153 thanks for watching and the good comments! 👍🍻
its not steel polish?!
Nope doesn't need to be.
New but so oily & dirty that you needed vinyl gloves? That´s really bad. Maybe a run in the dishwasher before assembly?
No I just did that because I have a really serious problem with my hands right now cracking in the winter time and if I do any kind of manual stuff it makes it worse. too many years in the auto body industry working with chemicals and no gloves on. If only I could go back and tell my younger self not to do such a stupid thing!!
@@ShortCircuitedBrewers Well, whaddayouknow. I started at 18 in a auto shop repairing fords with all that asbestos, grease & chemichals. Gloves were not invented then nor was rebreathers or hearing protection. Worked there for years and years
Yeah same hear. I was 12 when I first stuck my hand in a bucket of lacquer thinner!! Lol
@@ShortCircuitedBrewers We used Thinner to clean our hands when I helped my father paint walls & rerpair stuff before 1st grade.
@@OldNorsebrewery haha you'd be arrested for that now days...lol
275 bucks I would want the numbers to be accurate
I hear you. Most fermenters are off by a little bit. But they are taking care of the issue. 👍🍻
Any update on this fermentor
Have a batch in it currently.. will be following up with a video as soon as fermentation is done.👍🍻
Great whats your thoughts on the Anvil Fountry 10.5 system
One of the best all in ones on the market.
@@ShortCircuitedBrewers Great just ordered it and the new fermentor
@@davemariano3549 👍🍻
No pressure capability though is a deal killer.
I know that's the big trend right now. However not all beers are candidates for that process. The G4 is coming from Blichmann that will be a pretty good option. 👍🍻
@@ShortCircuitedBrewers Not just for pressure fermentation's but to be able to do closed, pressure transfers.
You can do closed pressure transfers with it. not at say 10 or 15 PSI but you can do it at 2 to 3 PSI I do it with their buckets all the time. Which are the same design lid as what the crucible has. 👍🍻
@@ShortCircuitedBrewers Good to know. Nevertheless, not being able to properly hold suitable pressure, like many other offerings, is a deal breaker for me.
Do tell? There are other stainless conical fermenters at that price that hold pressure?