Trying to Fix $5,000 Worth of Broken Laptops
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Trying to Fix $5,000 Worth of Broken Laptops - In this video I'm trying to fix a Razor Blade Pro 17 that runs way too hot and a LG Gram that has a flashing screen issue. Computer issues can be tricky to diagnose and fix but I love trying to figure them out.
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Often it is enough to change the display refresh rate in the Intel graphics settings / Intel Graphics Control Panel and the flashing disappears.
Interesting. Thanks for the comment.
@@Tronicsfix i had a lenovo that had a similar issue and it turned out it needed a firmware upgrade for the touchscreen
it doesn't fix the issue. It's a mitigation at best. If cable does not allow stable high-bandwidth transmission that probably means some component has degraded.
@@szymon7607 The problem is, that the Intel driver switches the refresh rate to 40Hz for some reason. Sometimes the display only flickers in battery mode. Sometimes it stays that way even in plugged-in mode. It happens even on brand new laptops, it's driver bug.
Sometimes this also means that the display it self is broken.
I've seen it with verious laptops.
Display can't handle a refresh rate anymore so it starts flikkering
If I hear of anyone looking for replacement parts for their HP computer, I will definitely send them your way. Keep up the good work!
i love how humble this man is
Who doesn't love this man?
The old hardened thermal pads could be preventing the heatsink from contacting the die all the way- probably best to replace with thermal putty
Yeah the pads looked like some were not making contact. I would have like to see some thermal testing done on that system.
Yes, its very common on Laptops and desktop GPUs. I saw a laptop that started overheating after being dropped too hard on the table, or used GPU that started overheating after being shipped in a box. Both times repasting fixed them as the old hardened paste couldnt take even a small shift of the heatsink.
I also think he probably had too much thermal paste on, despite his claims of "perfect amount"
The paste on the larger chip looked way too thick.
@@TheBrando212 If there's proper pressure it shouldn't matter that much.
Quick tip for display problems.
if you go into the computers BIOS by pressing F2 (Usually) and wait, if the problem happens in there, its usually hardware
If the problem starts after POST, when Windows has taken control, its usually a driver issue.
Was about to type this 👍🏾
i had exactly the same issue at my work a few days ago. But i knew it was the drivever saw that allready a couple of times.
Yeah that's always what I do, go to the bios, sometime running a live linux to test things out, and then if it's hardware, I open it up, I find it better to test the laptop before entirely reassembling it, to not having to open it up two times if a problem occur for exemple.
Great work sir, I love your content. I work for a used laptop reseller and it so nice to see someone that take their time to do the job correctly. That being said as stated before it not a good idea to use liquid metal with copper. One last thing, being that those are high performance units. Sometime there are settings in the bios that will allow you to control the fan speed to improve cooling during gaming. I'm not saying that was the situation here but it's always a good idea check the setting and reset if needed.
Hey, the affects of mixing liquid metal with copper are proven to be cosmetic and the original performance of the contact plate remains intact :) it just stains the copper over time and looks very ugly, its not pitting or corroding anything. happy cooling :)
Nicely done Steve!
Using liquid metal on Copper heatsinks/heatpipes is a bad idea. Overtime, it gets absorbed into the copper and your temps will shoot through the roof again. In order to use Liquid Metal on copper stuff, it needs to be nickel plated to prevent absorption.
yeah just use some arctic mx-4 and away you go :)
I used liquid metal on a 4670k back at launch that had been lapped with a direct copper heatsink. Used that PC for 5 years and never had any temps issues.
Nothing will happen, Copper will form alloy with liquid metal but temperatures should stay the same because that alloy have simillar heat conductivity, nickel plating is just for the looks. You shouldn't use liquid metal on aluminium heatsinks.
@@Scytian1 Liquid metal will sip in and you have to re-apply it sometime later.
That is not completely correct. In the early days of the liquid metal boom, some people said that after half a year they check the liquid metal if there any leak, if it ''drys'' or similar, and saw that was ''obsorbed'' couse the copper form an a alloy, so they started a myth, because they wanted to sell a history and get views. Is like ''microwave or coca-cola zero cause cancer'', ''ps5 and liquid metal it is a bad idea and I show you why'', and all was false so they get views xD. So don't belive all you see in internet, especialy in youtube please.
I honestly didn't think that switching to liquid metal would fix the issue - what an interesting fix!
I think he should have looked into under volting before, makes a big difference without all the work, thermal paste looked fine to me.
I think it might of been mounting pressure/correct contact to CPU/GPU with the heat sink personally. Can’t see liquid metal fixing that much of an issue
Maybe thermal paste just wasn't enough for that laptop?
Personally, I don't mind thermal paste because I don't have liquid metal - and 99% of the time, it's perfectly fine.
I was thinking it might have been more a software issue or a fan curve issue... always good to check CPU temperatures using a program like Core Temp...
LQ is about 75 times more cooling efficient than the best thermal paste.
I’ve had drivers not being installed causing the fans to run all the time; Installing the chipset driver / pm driver fixed that
Love your videos! I just bought the "I'm here because you broke something" shirt off your website(I noticed you're wearing it in the video). My family will get a kick out of it since I'm the person they call whenever something is broken. Thanks for the great videos and for giving me the confidence to try fixing things I used to be scared to even take apart.
windows 11 has that issue with display adapter, its good to boot from a live usb to a linux based os which can make life easier, amazing content i love the videos and its happy to see you posted something when i open TH-cam
I'm the only one who is super happy after every repair he does?
Mind if I ask what overhead camera rig you use? The overhead shots of taking apart the laptops are great!
your laptop and mobile repair videos are very nice
Well, for me, I usually check the BIOS first to determine if the problem is more on hardware side or software side. With that in mind, if you boot into Windows (or any other OS) and it behaves oddly, you can have high confidence that it is the OS fault instead of hardware issues. I'm glad it was a minor fix for LG Gram.
He didn t really fixed it, as it could be happening again if he reinstalls the gpu again, could pe a bad igpu but it rarely happens, so i guess he just needs to get the latest gpu update
@@robertbuzdea6257 Yeah, but sometimes Windows auto update screw everything up. The best driver is to get it from LG official website. I remember Windows screws the update by automatically update the AMD gpu driver of my MSI GX70 3BE because while the dGPU Radeon HD8970m supports the newer version of CCC (Catalyst Control Centre), my iGPU can't (Radeon HD 8650G). Always have to DDU when Windows performs update.
@@robertbuzdea6257it did reinstall the graphics driver: you can hear it being removed and installed in the video
Love your videos, I have learned so much over the years. Are you interested in doing product reviews or do you have a contract with the equipment you use?
Hi I have enjoyed your videos for many years. I had a razer blade 17 2020 I used it for a good 2years. Since day one it’s done the ramping up fans. I believe it is because it has a Rtx2080 and i7 in a thin laptop. The fans only are like this when the power cable is plugged in to the laptop. And did not do it when on battery. I have since switched to a MacBook. The Razer was not broken, it is just a design flaw 😂. Also be careful putting liquid metal in laptops. The coolers I’m not designed for it. And also unlike a PS5 or a computer. A laptop is going to be chucked around more. Meaning that the liquid metal could spill out! But still enjoyed the attempt, and thank you for your effort! Keep up the good work!
Conformal coating can be any number of materials. This one looks to be an acrylic. Which yeah means it's basically the exact same thing as an acrylic nail polish.
Love your channel. 👌 thank you
nice. you fixed all laptop issues.
Dude that is a dope display on that LG...
I love it... "I really don't like prying on this thing..." then literally bends it 90 degrees lol ... we are the same, you and I.. Great vids as usual.. :) peace out Steve.
Nice, that Razr has a second M.2 slot that can be used! I'd be putting two 2TB Crucial P3's in there :)
Any danger of the liquid metal moving to other parts of the laptop if it is bumped or stored vertically?
On the PS theres some kind of gasket to prevent overspill so was just wondering if this could be an issue on a laptop, especially since they do tend to get a few more knocks and bumps.
It will probably be fine, but i would rather worry obout liquid metal on a copper heatsink, as that will probobly not mix well
@tronicsfix in the Razer, try also a BIOS update
I was hoping you could make a video on the location of screws for the ps5 digital ,did a teardown and watched your video on it but was not aware of the different sizes of screws.
I also believe razors problem was also a software issue.
Definitely. Maybe a bios update or a driver update could've fixed those issues. We know Windows 11 don't play nice with some hardware combinations.
Would you recommend one brand of laptop that seems to have less issues. Thanks
I know you did your due diligence in adding the liquid metal to increase better cooling but what about adding the same safe guard that the PS-5 uses like that black material they put around the chip to keep the liquid metal from running off into other components.
It seems to work well. I'm sure that material is easy to get and would ensure that no LM would get out of place.
I've seen other sites where a repair person would find LM all over the mother board because the user had the same idea as you but the LM got away from the chips.
I'm going to do the same on my computer but I'm also going to get some of that material to set up around the chip. I recently did a thorough cleaning on my Dell XPS 9560 and found old dried thermal paste.
The computer is over 5 years old.
It runs fine but I did notice before I opened it and gave it this thorough cleaning that the fans did run quite often and the bottom of the puter was getting much warmer than normal.
Right now with the new thermal paste, all is good but I want to make sure I have more years of use.
So far, only problem I've had was a bad power cord end and replaced that along with the plug in. It had formed a short in the end plug where it goes into the puter power receptacle.
I'm even still using the same battery but it has diminished in it's longevity.
IT was originally a 6 hour battery but now down to 2 hours.
This computer stays up and running 24/7 and has been from the day I bought it.
Great Show!!
I doubt that the connector you attached was the LCD connector, that should have looked like the wide gold pins you see on the bottom. I think that board was for the touchscreen.
it was the connector for the touch screen
Siggestion: make a linux bootable usb. Wothout even installing it you can just run it off the usb and find out of the issue like the screen flashing issue.
I know first hand the pain of not disconnecting that battery before messing with the screen. I was trying to fix a HP laptop that had some kind of issue with it I can't remember. I took the motherboard out and I reconnected the battery before I reconnected the screen. As I was putting in the screen connector. I heard a zap and the back light on that laptop never worked again.
Did you remove the battery connector of the 2nd laptop before removing the display cable? This might cause some issues
Fan speed can be managed from BIOS. So if you set it on max manually, fan will always run on max speed when pc is turned on
Amazing! 😮🥰
For the razor does it have a game mode bios? Some gaming boards have a game boost mode and ramp the fans up and the boost clock of the CPU. Just a thought
Honestly the whole time I was talking at he screen saying it was a setting in the bios for the fans didnt think it was thermal paste and the screen issue I thought it was a loose cable too again didnt think it was the display driver computers never cease to amaze me.
Ok
Wouldn‘t it make sense with the first laptop, to check the temperatures first, before disassembling? To rule out if it was an issue with some kind of sensor?
he isn t really into computers, so he just applies what he learned from repairing consoles. So as consoles don t have temperature monitors, he has never checked temps on anything
although, he had very good ipothesis about the defects, and he did a great job on the razer. kinda dissapointed in the lg gram as he just uninstalled the igpu driver, which will install by itself again in the future, and probably will behave again like that
@@robertbuzdea6257it reinstalled right in the video. If it didnt he wouldn’t get any video at all.
@@robertbuzdea6257windows usually installs stable drivers from the past unlike new ones that could have issues. I’ve never had an issue with windows in over 20 years
Man I was flinching at 13:20 while watching you attach the LCD ribbon back inside the ZIF connector. Those connectors with a plastic locking clamp were created by satan.
unbelivable that a driver can do this, i'll remmeber this in future if i ever come across this.
Hello, I have a Razer Blade stealth 13 inch laptop, the mousepad stopped working before I purchased it. I tried reinstalling windows and it worked for a few minutes and then stopped working. While I prefer using a mouse, there are times where the mousepad is more convenient to use. Do you know where I could find software for it?
That flashing screen is a software or config issue, i have not finished the video yet so i hope that was the problem, i don't remember if it has to do with refresh rate or something like that
The first thing you always try with display issues in laptops is to connect an external display. So you will know if is the screen, driver or the gpu related.
Not always the gpu at fault the display connector can also die because it is in the mechanical hinge, or the mainboard can be faulty (like chips and other components)
@@309electronics5 Or random radiation from space can flip some 1 into 0. Countless possibilities but always check with another external display before you start the board level repairs.
Boom! 2 out of 2. Nice!
actually, I had similiar situation with fans in laptop I bought recently.
I changed thermal paste , thermal pads , and everything seemed to be fine but fans kept spinning very fast when doing like literally anything.
The problem was caused by windows setting cpu to 4 ghz for some reason and laptop was oerheating because of that.
after changing some windows settings everything worked fine
As soon as I saw that flashing, I instantly knew it was a driver issue.
when i've been working on laptops that have issues with display drivers if they have the plugs i plug them into another display which sometimes give me enough go to uninstall/re-install drivers. sometimes happens on desktops, but mainly laptops with dual graphics cards. they are a pain in the arse to be honest.
Can I use the coating also for a PS5 when I removed the plastic part?
You should care if the "conformal coating" is nail polish or not - certain types of nail polish contain chemicals that can damage solder resist or increase corrosion to metal components.
It's not just nail polish. It is actually a conformal coating
you can use a HDMI cord and plug it into a tv or a monitor if you have a broken screen or something
What thermal paste would you recommend for a laptop?
I personally use Arcic MX-4
the first laptop it seemed their was not enough clamping force how thick that thermal paste was. maybe its just me but that would cause this issue
@12:45 you don't clean off the grease you left with your fingers from the flex end?
I have to contstantly clear the dust on my Razer. It gets super hot.
Of course, a i9 and 3080 ti mobile, is going to be a bit crispy.
Is putting liquid metal on the heatsink itself strictly for liquid metal? I've seen people only put thermal paste just on the CPU not the heatsink
diagnostic for both issues should start in the BIOS.
Before using the liquid metal in pc or in a laptop be sure you make all the side protected liquid metal drip while traveling in motherboard it will cause short so you have make custom sponge style support that's used in ps5 do make note of this I will cause serious trouble in future
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Believe me when you started opening LG , me thinking why why you didn't check the driver because when you first time boot it started flickering after some time.
It's good that lg has a replaceable display cable because If you break the display cable you can just replace it and not having to replace the display.
My Asus gl503 laptop does that with the fans every now and then all do is plug the fan out and plug it back in and it's good for another few months use
My razor laptop would default to max fan speed all the time, would have to go in and change it back to automatic almost every time i restarted it
The LG Gram isn't fixed. You should DDU it and then restart it to see if it works after it installs it's display drivers again. Then you know it' fixed or not.
Remember too disconnect the battery. This guy always disconnect, thats good. I witnessed few of my collegue shorted something and broke the laptop. Blue pixie dust.
If display gets wonky it's worth trying Win + Ctrl + Shift + B to reset the display driver. Not sure if it work in setup mode.
i know liquid metal just sounds cool itself but tbh i have not found one good reason to prefer it over a good quality paste... it just disolves everything it touches xD
I think you should disconnect the battery before working on the screen connector because you could accedently send battery voltage down the GPU lines and short it out. AH OK YOU DID IT AT THE END
Did you install any other intel graphics driver? By uninstallibg the driver you are just disabling hardware acceleration. Meaning its still broken.
does liquid metal corrode the copper coating?
For that first laptop, I would have cleaned the fans on the graphics card as well -
if you are refering to the small fans close together, im pretty sure those are fans for the battery, the cpu and gpu are usually cooled by the heatsink he removed and checked.
I think that because is a gamer laptop, the owner want to have better thermals in games and general, so he touch the BIOS and adjust the fans to be full speed at some grade or similar. So I recomend check that too. Because liquid metal not use to make a huge change in notebooks, cause the true cooler sistem is the fans and radiator, and don't use to be too much powerfull in laptops, of course if the thermal paste was a bad brand and act more like a thermal insulator, but this days are all good.
You need some rubber coated tweezers for those ribbon cables.
Have you ever considered doing a livestream repair video
For anybody that is having that screen flashing issue. Please don't do what he did in this video. Disabling the onboard graphics for the Intel processor can lead to issues. You can disable it temporarily. But what you really need to do is make sure that you have all of your settings correct and make sure that your drivers are up to date
By uninstalling the laptop reinstalled the graphics driver. He didn’t disable it. There has to be a driver for a video output. So, he simply reinstalled a graphics driver.
No. He uninstalled the Intel graphics driver. Windows may reinstall it. But it also may bring back the issue. Just uninstalling it is it enough. There's other steps that need to be taken
There was nowhere near enough mounting force on that cooler when you put it on the first time. Thermal paste should be very thinly spread. Especially on a laptop. Even a quarter of a millimeter gap is enough to cause overheating
Not gonna lie using liquid metal to fix an overheating issue sounds like installing a turbo charger to fix a stuck intake valve in your engine.
Thank you!
It would of been great to see temps before and after liquid metal
Man for that LG gram you should connect it to an external monitor and check if it's a driver issue or a monitor issue... Any way I really enjoy watching your content ❤️
Is there any way you can fix my laptop? 😢 It is an Asus Tuf gaming F17 2022 (FX707ZM). The clock speeds are going all the way down to 0.3 or 0.4 GHz and is not boosting to 4.7 too as it should with i7 12700H. Unresponsive, laggy when this is happening. Also it is heating up quite a lot. All these are happening not consistently, but every few hours. My country of residence is India.
0:59 my uncle's laptop sounds like that. It's from 2017 and might need cleaning
Where does he sell stuff after fixing it, and what's the link?
I’ve got a Razer Blade 13’ and it’s always had issues. The keyboard has been replaced, the battery won’t charge half the time, the sound is iffy, the screen brightness likes to default to max for some reason… idk it’s just strange lol
Hey tronics I have problem with Laptops display, Laptops turns on normally but shows no display at all but when I connect it to a external display it works fine
Mine is Asus Rog 2021 with Nvidia 3060 , it has a rog logo on the back of the display that gets lit when you turn on the laptop but after this display issue the logo is not getting lit , when I start the laptop with external display it making a startup sound that it used make when display was fine but it doesn't make a sound when turn on without external display
Display went black when I was playing a graphic intensive game it got black out suddenly.
Why a PS5 which doesn't usually move around needs a shield to avoid liquid metal to go everywhere and frying the motherboard but a laptop (which is supposed to move around and is carried on a backpack) doesn't need it?
Why in the world would you put liquid metal on a machine that is not setup to use liquid metal? this will cause issues later when its taken apart and the new owner dosent know there liquid metal, but more importantly theres nothing in place that would stop the liquid mental from getting on the components, other than the cooler, which i wouldnt trust.
I was asking myself the same question! Good point.
because he can duh😂
Wdym the new pwner doesn’t know about the Liquid Metal? I would feel like he would tell him lol, and the new owner probably has no intentions of opening up his computer once it’s all fixed
@@hakim9785 that doesn’t change any thing
@Bluehatmonke emmmm better cooling? Heat transfer from the cpu too the heatsink
The fans are also a software fix. You need to download the Razer software and go to fan settings and put them in silent mode. I had the same issue with my Asus laptop everytime it hit 40c the fans started to ramp up.
This is the one repair channel i really enjoy watching for entertainment. Great job steve! I need to put some liquid metal on some of my devices lol
maybe the problem in razer laptop, tweaking of bios fan thats why the fan spin much??? just suggestion 💙
You do awesome work
just use the thicker thermal paste like gelid gc extreme or something, thermal paste like arctic mx4 and grizzly naut have low viscosity and pumps out easily from the cpu die after few thermal cycles. At 2:22 you can clearly see most of the thermal paste is on the edges of cpu die which is caused by thermal paste pump-out effect.
i had similar issue with my acer nitro where arctic and kryonaut were completely ineffective after few weeks but gelid is still working like new after 1.5 year
Wow he saved those laptops...now that he has saved them...let me adopt those laptop now...I will take good care of them😌😆
I know whoever sold that LG IS PUNCHIN THE AIR RIGHT NOW
0:21 at the center of the case, there is like a toilet seat shape, I don't even know why. xD
You should do repairs on Galaxy Buds. 3 ultra with also on the Galaxy 23 ultra phone.
In my Lenovo idea pad I tried to replace the pannel but when disconnecting the screen I didn't unplug the battery the backlight of the laptop is not working what should.i do now
I see one design aspect with the razer that i dont like
The fans vent to a space that the hinge sits in
I prefer my fans to vent to unobstructed space
*crack, crunch* “oh there we go!” 😅
LM will get absorbed into the copper heatsinks and dry out in a few months, then you'll have to reapply them again. Using LM on copper is not really a good idea.
Only just found out iFixit removed the kit I bought 2 years, weird, hopefully still Life Time Warranty
Did you forget to disconnect the battery while working on LG gram?
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