And just to think that this video was made just before Seris has her own Passive of Soul Collector as base kit, so yeah the score would be even higher for her lol
As someone who plays both games and is a sucker for character design, I love these videos! For other videos you could do comparisons between turret-building dwarf mechanics, rectangular shield-bearing knights, and invisible purple girls
I FUCKING LOVE THESE TYPE OF VIDEOOOOOS ♥ really interesting that u said that raum is technically a seris pet but lets not forget also that sigma (the most powerful lorewise champ) is moira pet too
In fact, these two represent the differences between the two games very well. In Overwatch, the abilities of the same character are rarely combined with each other, much less with basic attacks. Moira is one of the characters with the most synergy between her own abilities, and even so, she doesn't reach the level of synergy of abilities that Seris has, who by Paladin standards doesn't have as many synergies either. It would also be interesting to complement this comparison with characters from other similar games such as: Xenobia (Gigantic) Kala (Evolve) (although she's more similar to Symetra than Moira in my opinion) Ambra (Battleborn)
You had some really good points too, and honestly, even base kit alone (no loadouts or items) Seris still whoops Moira in a sense that once She gets 4 orbs on Moira, that stun then kill is eminent...and even if Moira manages to Fade off the orbs, it wouldnt take long for Seris to stack another 4 orbs her immediately. Moira's Fade is also easier to track than Seris's, she could escape by fade jumping a wall yes, but seris' speed in her shadow on top of selfheal/out of combat healing would put her right back to 100 and moira would have trouble wittling her down again. Awesome video, was a fun watch at work xD
Gonna comment on moiras weapon, it isnt actually auto aim, its just a beam with animation that makes it LOOK like auto aim. For those who dont believe me -the game itself describes her weapon as a beam -theres a marker on her scoreboard for secondary fire accuracy, which is capable of being less than 100%. If it were autoaim, it would be 100% all the time like old sym beam -people call it soft auto lock, but if you compare it to other beams in the game or even just her ult, there isnt much difference from what ive noticed in how close your crosshair has to be to do damage, her ult may actually be more forgiving
I main Ana on overwatch but I’ve been having a ball running around as moji i feel like Moira and Ana combined tbh turning ppl into doggy biscuits is the cherry on top
i do think moira has some more depth tbh, because it's her morality what makes her able to overstep other's, like she genuinely believes what she's doing will only help humanity and those whom she "fixes" you can see this mostly on her interactions with mercy, she sees those boundaries as annoyances that hinder future and evolution, every evil act she makes is completely justified in her mind even if she recognizes it's not moral it's basically bioshock's mentality but in a future scifi flavor she is also weirdly attached to everyone's lore and remains relevant to this day, which is a funny coincidence
its interesting how moiras kit is almost the polar opposite of furias. damage to heal better vs heal to damage better slower channelled heal over time vs faster burst heal bouncing ball that damages and heals vs straight moving beam that damages and heals etc
I had 2 loadouts for seris, one that allowed me to be aggressive af, and one that had me maximize shadow travel and the heals with her talent that let's you heal during soul travel (i forgot the name) also, I think now is a good time to mention with seris that due to the item shop she can do so much more with her kit than moira, and at the end there where you asked how to counter doomfist, wrecking ball is a good counter for doom since he can't really keep up with the ball, and you said before about a wrecking ball video, if you want some tips on his kit I don't mind helping you there
Do Pip! Does he have an equal out there? He's why I got into the game in 2018. Got him to LV 430 something and my Seris is near 300. I don't play OW, but if there is another support in the team, DPS Seris is actually one of the best flanks to kill the damn snipers with 😏😉
@@LICH_REAPER Bap was my first thought too but he's less of a flanker and more of a straight up DPS. Kiriko can fit into that flanker style I used to play on with Pip.
Didnt finish watching yet i mained Seris too, her quote "reality is an opinion, and one i disagree with..." is so cool and i still mumble that, but i got to be honest on the lore part, Seris seems like the most cliche basic dark medieval fantasy lore a 10yold would come up with..... no shade, Moira takes this one in how she actually looks like a character with background, Seris is just a vessel to create a hero
If I was to play off bias, I would say Seris and Moira win in 2 different categories Seris W's: Healing and damage Moira W's: Escape factor and Ulti Explanation: I say Seris win in the Healing area because unlike Moira, Seris healing is cooldown based and she can get you to full hp. Also, Seris healing can heal other teammates in range. Moira's healing is meter based cause the heal orb lingers for a bit and her left click/trigger drains easily, which you have to damage orb. Damage wise I say Seris wins because Soul Collector (which now been reworked into her base kit) gives Seris more hp and damage per orb detonation. I say Moira wins in the escape factor due to Seris Shadow Travel takes too long to activate (if you don't have that one card in your loadout) and ulti category cause Moira can damage and heal once used. Only downside to Moira's ulti is that latina waifu Sombra's EMP.
oh i knew seris was gonna win hands down. as soon as I saw the lore differences, i was like, "Hmmmm we gonna go for Generic Unethical Scientist #3 or Bitch Who Convinces Bears To Do Her Bidding?" Plus?? Seris is just more fun to play imo. As much as i like pissing on teammates, it's more fun to ult and destructinate a bunch of people with Seris.
TFW paladins reworks a champion right before you post a video about them 🙃
Lmfao
Think you can do this series, but throw marvel rivals into the mix?
@thelordofthelostbraincells hnnmmmmmmnnnmm
And just to think that this video was made just before Seris has her own Passive of Soul Collector as base kit, so yeah the score would be even higher for her lol
Yeah I love it when that happens eheheh
As someone who plays both games and is a sucker for character design, I love these videos!
For other videos you could do comparisons between turret-building dwarf mechanics, rectangular shield-bearing knights, and invisible purple girls
your videos are really fun too watch!
Tysm!!!
3:33 willo and drogoz have NOT been left behind
In the Lore specifically, though, they have
@@LICH_REAPER ooo mybad i thought in the game like how much they are picked
I FUCKING LOVE THESE TYPE OF VIDEOOOOOS ♥
really interesting that u said that raum is technically a seris pet
but lets not forget also that sigma (the most powerful lorewise champ) is moira pet too
Huehuehuehue
I do have a Raum Vs Mauga vid in the playlist if you're interested!
In fact, these two represent the differences between the two games very well. In Overwatch, the abilities of the same character are rarely combined with each other, much less with basic attacks. Moira is one of the characters with the most synergy between her own abilities, and even so, she doesn't reach the level of synergy of abilities that Seris has, who by Paladin standards doesn't have as many synergies either.
It would also be interesting to complement this comparison with characters from other similar games such as:
Xenobia (Gigantic)
Kala (Evolve) (although she's more similar to Symetra than Moira in my opinion)
Ambra (Battleborn)
You're actually so right omg
I never really thought about the lacking of synergy in OW
Ay banger video Lich
Thamk yew!!!
Woooo fuck yeah peak thirst content disguised as an analysis video is back
Huehuehuehue
Cool video. I've played both games extensively and I think both are fun and unique in their own ways. 🔥
These vids are great
I got into paladins when seris was released and been maining moira since her release as well. Love them both
I love this🤩
Phart
nice video!
Great vid
You had some really good points too, and honestly, even base kit alone (no loadouts or items) Seris still whoops Moira in a sense that once She gets 4 orbs on Moira, that stun then kill is eminent...and even if Moira manages to Fade off the orbs, it wouldnt take long for Seris to stack another 4 orbs her immediately. Moira's Fade is also easier to track than Seris's, she could escape by fade jumping a wall yes, but seris' speed in her shadow on top of selfheal/out of combat healing would put her right back to 100 and moira would have trouble wittling her down again. Awesome video, was a fun watch at work xD
Glad ya liked it! And I think the defining factor is that Seris is able to deal damage a lot faster than Moira, plus her self heal is more impactful.
First time seeing ur stuff, loved the vid. Also brig is a good counter to doom in the support role, sombra as dps and usually orisa make his life hell
Glad ya like it! And tysm!!!
Gonna comment on moiras weapon, it isnt actually auto aim, its just a beam with animation that makes it LOOK like auto aim. For those who dont believe me
-the game itself describes her weapon as a beam
-theres a marker on her scoreboard for secondary fire accuracy, which is capable of being less than 100%. If it were autoaim, it would be 100% all the time like old sym beam
-people call it soft auto lock, but if you compare it to other beams in the game or even just her ult, there isnt much difference from what ive noticed in how close your crosshair has to be to do damage, her ult may actually be more forgiving
this comes out after our new tank trial, intresting to learn what moira really did during her time on oasis
Ya and they did a big change on seris right before uploading
I have no interest i overwatch, its been years since i last touched paladins, but i saw a crewmate in front of a bisexual flag and decided to sub.
Huehuehue ty I don't even play amogus I just think it's cute
@LICH_REAPER honestly I don't think anyone actually plays among us anymore. I just find it adorable too 😭
I main Ana on overwatch but I’ve been having a ball running around as moji i feel like Moira and Ana combined tbh turning ppl into doggy biscuits is the cherry on top
i do think moira has some more depth tbh, because it's her morality what makes her able to overstep other's, like she genuinely believes what she's doing will only help humanity and those whom she "fixes" you can see this mostly on her interactions with mercy, she sees those boundaries as annoyances that hinder future and evolution, every evil act she makes is completely justified in her mind even if she recognizes it's not moral
it's basically bioshock's mentality but in a future scifi flavor
she is also weirdly attached to everyone's lore and remains relevant to this day, which is a funny coincidence
Nice video, also I think seris design and voice are better
its interesting how moiras kit is almost the polar opposite of furias.
damage to heal better vs heal to damage better
slower channelled heal over time vs faster burst heal
bouncing ball that damages and heals vs straight moving beam that damages and heals
etc
please do Torb vs Barik!!!
I had 2 loadouts for seris, one that allowed me to be aggressive af, and one that had me maximize shadow travel and the heals with her talent that let's you heal during soul travel (i forgot the name) also, I think now is a good time to mention with seris that due to the item shop she can do so much more with her kit than moira, and at the end there where you asked how to counter doomfist, wrecking ball is a good counter for doom since he can't really keep up with the ball, and you said before about a wrecking ball video, if you want some tips on his kit I don't mind helping you there
Moji standard attk = moira ult confirmed
Who is this diva? 💜
Ur mom lol
Dragon and Rocket Lady when
Never >:3
Do Pip! Does he have an equal out there? He's why I got into the game in 2018. Got him to LV 430 something and my Seris is near 300.
I don't play OW, but if there is another support in the team, DPS Seris is actually one of the best flanks to kill the damn snipers with 😏😉
Honestly I'd say maybe Baptiste? But I'm not too sure :P
@@LICH_REAPER Bap was my first thought too but he's less of a flanker and more of a straight up DPS. Kiriko can fit into that flanker style I used to play on with Pip.
Just checked out some Marvel Rivals gameplay and I think Rocket Raccoon might come close? Even the looks lol.
Didnt finish watching yet i mained Seris too, her quote "reality is an opinion, and one i disagree with..." is so cool and i still mumble that, but i got to be honest on the lore part, Seris seems like the most cliche basic dark medieval fantasy lore a 10yold would come up with..... no shade, Moira takes this one in how she actually looks like a character with background, Seris is just a vessel to create a hero
Hot
Yuh
Omg the way we should get married
Hueheuehue
Could’ve had the title: Ball Slinging supports 😂
HAHAHA
One thing I will say, is a direct comparison really can't be done well due to the difference in the games HP, DR, etc. But overall, video was great.
Ya that goes without saying. That's why I try to avoid direct damage/healing numbers and just go with the overall output
I miss Paladins
I mean it's still alive. You can still play it! It's just... It's in a state!!!
If I was to play off bias, I would say Seris and Moira win in 2 different categories
Seris W's: Healing and damage
Moira W's: Escape factor and Ulti
Explanation: I say Seris win in the Healing area because unlike Moira, Seris healing is cooldown based and she can get you to full hp. Also, Seris healing can heal other teammates in range. Moira's healing is meter based cause the heal orb lingers for a bit and her left click/trigger drains easily, which you have to damage orb. Damage wise I say Seris wins because Soul Collector (which now been reworked into her base kit) gives Seris more hp and damage per orb detonation. I say Moira wins in the escape factor due to Seris Shadow Travel takes too long to activate (if you don't have that one card in your loadout) and ulti category cause Moira can damage and heal once used. Only downside to Moira's ulti is that latina waifu Sombra's EMP.
We got the same ideas!!
oh i knew seris was gonna win hands down. as soon as I saw the lore differences, i was like, "Hmmmm we gonna go for Generic Unethical Scientist #3 or Bitch Who Convinces Bears To Do Her Bidding?" Plus?? Seris is just more fun to play imo. As much as i like pissing on teammates, it's more fun to ult and destructinate a bunch of people with Seris.
Huehuehue yaaa the team ult can go so hard
this is basically theories vs predictions, love both ladies but aint no way moira beating seris xD
FR Seris would CRUSH her in a 1v1
girlbosses?
Slay queens 💅
These 2 are amateur orb slingers compared to Zenyatta
HA
THIS IS RIGGED
nah moira wins
Personally I disagree.
Also, your Moira gameplay is horrendous.
Thanks!!
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And the Omen and Hazzard the echos of these champs