Is it just me or are they using the wrong gender? Despite the possibility of them sourcing white power input chassis mounts, the twist goes the wrong way for power input, meaning they've used an output mount for power in. Right?
@@simoncox9349 you are correct the blue connector should be used for input while the white connector is used for output for daisy chaining multiple devises to one power cord. Probably did it for Aesthetic purposes.
AFAIK PowerCon, PowerTwist (aka TR1) and SpeakOn (for powered audio signal) are the only twist locking connector from Neutrik. Other connectors (XLR, RJ45 aka EtherCon, etc.) have simple latch mechanism
@@gamerdweebentertainment1616 most likely logistics. They are coming from different manufacturers, so having to intake, assemble, repackage, store, ship, etc is just going to drive up cost and be a headache for something that is a small batch passion project.
@@gamerdweebentertainment1616 Aside from the choice of GPU(maybe some of the new SFF 4060s can also fit), all motherboards will be able to fit in perfectly, just the cable routing would be a pain for front I/O motherboards, that's it. Since the extra space on the right side of the YTX motherboard would be absent for regular ITX motherboards, there should be enough room for cable management, but it just won't be pretty.
I saw the original video of that build months before, and I was blown away by how flawless it looked. I never expected this build to appear in LTT. I wish builds like this can be produced for mainstream consumers at a more affordable price.
the DIY ape line is aready a small standard in china and has around 10 motherboards and similar numbers of supported cases from various manufacturers, so hopefully this trend picks up and goes global
This is an impressively engineered case. Everything fits together so perfectly and looks so well integrated together. The price honestly isn't crazy considering the low volume and high level of machining needed to make each case.
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The increased width on the board is actually something I would like to see adopted more by mainstream board manufacturers. Since gpus are getting so much longer it makes sense to let the mobo to start using a bit of that space that case manufacturers already leave for the gpu
with the amount of engineering, designing and machining...350 is basically a steal. i would not have been surprised if the case would have been double that. holy moly those tight fitments and tolerances. absolute respect.
The only downside to a small form factor is that if an intruder steals it, it's mobile enough so that you'll never see it again. No wonder it had to be so solid, a good offehsn is a good defense.
Whether you fight with it or chuck it into a bag, I'd be very worried over how likely you are to have the fans intact afterwards. Also, sticking objects into the fans or grabbing it absentmindedly might lead to unforseen consequences.
That power connector is called a PowerCON connector made by Neutrik. They're products are industry standard for event production. It's really cool to see one used in this way however its slightly upsetting because they used the white connectors instead of the blue connectors. The reason this matters is because white is supposed to mark a power output, and blue is to mark a power input. The purpose of this is for equipment that has both ports on it so you can daisy chain the power.
Ducting is such an understated design aspect for SFF especially. I've daily driven a Dan A4 for a few years now and the difference was monumental once I installed the noctua foam duct on the L9a low profile heatsink. The actual temps themselves didn't really drop all that much but the difference it made for keeping the flow of air consistent was super noticeable. The active cooling on the chipset used to ramp up all the time once air started recycling in the case and snowballing; and those little
White powercon connectors are supposed to be outlet connectors (ie to supply power). In this application it should be the blue variant (which is keyed differently ). Very common issue with grey import products.
The SFF community has been very interested in this case since it came out, but the way it only works with very specific components/motherboard has always been a roadblock. Still, looks super sick, and a lot of people have tried to copy it for other motherboard/CPU combos.
The motherboard form factor looks awesome. I can totally see this as cool inspiration and I would love to 3D print a case like this for the parts I have.
Important PSA: the gray powercon connector is for outputs, so if you plug it in the correct receptical, the metal prongs on the connector would be live Edit:typo
Yes BIG OH NO there and its also pretty shure not original neutrik. This could legit kill someone. (But fun fact Neutrik Powercon can go up to 20A and you shouldnt unplug it while powerd)
@@aurelbergkemper1302 normal powercon would also be fine, if they would use the correct side (although I agree that TRUE1 is the much better connector).
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it's really awesome that they have B-roll of the individual parts afterwards to show everything linus is mentioning or talking about really helps with seeing and understanding, better than if they showed him pointing inside the case where you barely see it from the camera
That mobo PCB layout makes heaps of sense. It'd also let them do 5v/3.3v power conversion. You could potentially have an insanely compact even higher powered flex ATX 12VO PSU as a result. With m.2 expansion being such an important thing now, this form factor makes heaps of sense.
The formfactor and component placement make sense the issue is flex ATX PSUs aren't common and really to get one you probably have to print you own PCB. When you get into printing you own PCB you have gotten into company secrets for how intel or AMD connect to the motherboard electrically. Now if you had that as a open thing you would have many people just printing their own motherboard instead of having to make it fit the shape a motherboard manufacture made. Would it be more expensive to do it that way? Maybe depends on the design they use but for most it is normally done for size requirements are different from the standard.
@@yumri4 Power connections are not trade secrets. You know what voltages you need, just make a power supply that produces them. You might have to print a PCB for the PSU, but that's not nearly as difficult as a motherboard.
@@canadajones9635 I am talking about the traces from the CPU socket to the other components is the trade secrets. The power connector voltages have to be known by the consumer for it to be used.
This motherboard is not even expensive in mainland China, it's a H610 chip. The design is base on cutting down the space under the first pcie slot on a convensional mATX motherboard to save cost, since your gpu will cover it anyway, and use the extra pcie link for m.2 on the side. The power delivery isn't very good (another spot to save cost) so the heatsink on the mos is actually essiential (unlike those on the highend motherboard). It price like a mATX board which cost 666 Chinese Yuan at launch (about $95) and you literally could buy multiple itx boards for that price. Sadly, although the screw hole is compatiable with any mATX cases, there are only few cases support the back-plugging system, the idea didn't really take off. Personally I really like the design philosophy behind it and I hope LTT's video will give this form factor a second change.
That white connector is a PowerCon OUTLET connector, not inlet. They've supplied you with a male to male cable, which for most usual people wouldn't be noticed but can be very dangerous.
There's actually nothing wrong with cable, the only thing is that it should be blue. You're right that white is the colour of powercon thru, but the housing is correct.
Funny story, Linus turned the unit on in the video at the same time my neighbor started trimming their hedges, so for half a second I thought the electric hedge trimmer was the sound of the case fans.
It's pretty cool to see Chinese companies go from extremely sketchy products to really nice products that are a bit rough on the edges now but the companies that produce the products today will be producing truly premium products in the next 10-20 years.
Up to the mid 70s, Japan was considered the make of cheap, low quality products, and it was mostly justified. There was a transit period of 5 years max, and then with companies like AIWA we started to see really high quality products that were not cheap anymore, but were a solid buy. I tried to say this before - do not deduce from the current sketchy state of Chinese quality that it will always be so. I', happy to see a top-quality product like that.
@@MoreLessTer China does final assembly for most things, but they usually don't design the products. Your iPhone might say "made in China" but not a single component or element was engineered there. Korea, Japan, and Taiwan have bigger roles in the iPhone production but since all the final parts were assembled together in China, it says made in china.
Honestly? This lil man is so sleek. I GENERALLY won’t look at your reviews and be like: I need that. You win this time. I need this. I’m not a gamer, I do a TINY bit of graphic design (but mostly on my iPad), and generally just watch TH-cam/visit social media. A perfect, tiny machine.
This is really inspiring for people who like to tinker with designs. I mean: just grab a board and GPU, and design the smallest and coolest looking 'no-case' around it. This one also looks like it came right out of a scifi movie, which I like a lot! I'd love to spend time on something like this, and maybe I will!
Funnily enough, even when using what appear to be genuine Neutrik connectors they still use the wrong one (Grey should bs used for power outlet from a device, blue should be for power input)
This looks absolutely fantastic. I would freaking LOVE for a manufacturer to start making modular parts so we could build PC cases out of components, I think that'd be SO cool. Imagine something like this, only customizable. Or using your small PC case of your not-so-powerful machine and putting its parts into a new, bigger case, so you don't have to just completely get rid of the old one and pay for a full new case. Reusability and customization, baby!
Not exactly sure what you were saying, but as far as modular.... InWin has that "case" that is "modular", purchase which modules you want, then you pick the layout.
who edited this video? Linus is whispering like a baby and suddenly Riley screams eardrum bursting sound to your headphones your sponsor's name. My ears still ring!
They could maintain a list of suitable GPUs and sell those different U-shaped side panels to accommodate the shrouds. But let's face it, you get to that level of specifics and your market size goes to near zero. But it's such an awesome design!
I love this design and this has huge potential for mass production. Any large manufacturer would be able to build these custom components at scale other than the machined bottom. I think of this almost like the Framework where you're locked into one company for the case, motherboard, psu but the cpu/gpu/ram/sdd are all configurable. The only problem is gpu board differences between manufacturers. In order to get case specific compatibility you would need to work with a board partner but most motherboard manufactures make gpus anyways.
to clarify, the SFF case is called the ForFun02 Pro or FF-02 PRO which is visible near the top at 2:01 . it's a bespoke case to this specific mobo and GPU combo. the heatsinks with the DIY-APE branding are the "model" of this, it's not exactly a custom motherboard but rather developed concurrently with the case designer by maxsun. there's a chinese creator on TH-cam that has a full ASMR build guide, it shows them installing all of the aftermarket bits, and it looks like a fun build.
Little mistake made by the creator. The gray power connector used is called a Neutrik Powercon. But the gray one is the output version! Not the input power. It might not be the look he is going for but he needs to use the blue Powercon chassis. Or go for the black Powercon True one.
Needs a tiny M.2 JBOD bay/backplane that you can just plug your NVME drive cards into, and the two onboard M.2 can be used for tiny PCIE hardware controllers. Then you can hot plug your magic sticks of gum all day long until Wonka shows up and says "Good Day Sir". If something more interesting than storage turns up, you can just plug that in there too, because, hardware controller - just like the good old early days of SDIO, when you had some multifunction slots that could pretty much attach anything to your host system.
I couldn't belive this PC was on the thumbnail. Hands down I've been in this moneypit for a long time and I haven't seen anything close to this build quality.
Aside (as other comments have mentioned) for the power connector being dangerous for being the wrong use case, I think overall this is a nice looking system that borrows a bit of that Apple aesthetic/engineering of using the chassis to sink heat. However, the exposed area/fans creates a danger situation where someone (like Linus) sticks their finger in it, or something accidently hits the fan and shatters it (I've had that happen when a case fan was exposed.) I probably would have at least put a magnetic fan filter at least over the fans, or design one with magnetic posts (since aluminum isn't magnetic.) It is overall neat to look at though.
I mounted my 420mm rad on the outside (top) of my case and mounted it on its edge so fresh air always gets pulled in and it doesn't dump warm air into the case
That plug actually looks like an Australian plug, just upside down, unless they intended the cable to be pointing upwards. The two angled pins (compared to the cable) are active and neutral and the pin that's inline with the cable is ground. Of course, we use it on a 240v 50hz supply rated for 10a on that plug, or if the ground pin is wider, 15a (acts to key a 15a plug to only fit in a 15a socket, but allows 10a plugs to use 15a sockets)
14:58 if you see this Linus, while subtractive production does throw out lots of perfectly good metal, it is a very good production process and most fabricators re use their shavings
my old Dell Dimension 3000 used a duct style system as the main way to cool the cpu there was only one case fan at the back of the pc, and on the inside there was a green plastic piece that directed air from that fan over the massive heat sync on the cpu
Not to mention they have no dust screen. Within a year, the entire inside of that already overcrowded and overheating interior is going to be choking on a layer of dust
@@trapical Thats why you clean it out once in a while.. like your house or your car or anything else you own. The panels seemed easy enough to take off and theres not much that needs to be air dusted. A year is way too long to not clean your PC out.
I saw a project some college students did of something similar years ago in the deep, dark, forgotten corners of the web. It didn't really have a cpu cooler, and the gpu cooler / shroud was removed. The case was the heat sink and the fans were counter sunk into it and had cutouts for multiple fans on the side top and front. There was removable sections, heat sinks basically, if you needed more fans.
when someone finally build a pc as tightly packed as a phone! using every millimeters he's got! and people wonder why we can't have phones that can have interchangeable parts, imagine having to change anything on this pc, it's a nightmare and phones are build with a tollerence of less than 0.1mm and more packed than this pc, you just have no space for interchangeability and soo few people would be able to do it them self that it's not worth it to produce it since a lot of those who would change parts on it, will also be able to change the parts as the phones are right now so the actual amount of people who would be able to change it and aren't already able to do it is so small
@foni here on youtube dropped a video with a similar case, it's pretty cool and I kinda like the idea of a locking power connectors. I wish rackmount equipment had them.
Ltt referencing matpats game theory was the last thing i expected but im here fore it. I'd love to see a full on collab between you guys at some point.
those power connectors are Neutrik powerCONs, iirc. they have connectors for xlr, rj-45, fiber and sdi in that same locking form factor.
Is it just me or are they using the wrong gender?
Despite the possibility of them sourcing white power input chassis mounts, the twist goes the wrong way for power input, meaning they've used an output mount for power in. Right?
@@simoncox9349 you are correct the blue connector should be used for input while the white connector is used for output for daisy chaining multiple devises to one power cord. Probably did it for Aesthetic purposes.
@@simoncox9349 The color problem of powerCON is actually considered to look good with the color of the Case, so the blue one is not used.
AFAIK PowerCon, PowerTwist (aka TR1) and SpeakOn (for powered audio signal) are the only twist locking connector from Neutrik. Other connectors (XLR, RJ45 aka EtherCon, etc.) have simple latch mechanism
@@CieMaKat could be, I haven't touched any of them in years.
Wait, 350 dollars? I was 100% ready for the price of the case to be over 1000
why and how is the case even sold seperately though... :/
@@gamerdweebentertainment1616 most likely logistics. They are coming from different manufacturers, so having to intake, assemble, repackage, store, ship, etc is just going to drive up cost and be a headache for something that is a small batch passion project.
@@gamerdweebentertainment1616 Aside from the choice of GPU(maybe some of the new SFF 4060s can also fit), all motherboards will be able to fit in perfectly, just the cable routing would be a pain for front I/O motherboards, that's it. Since the extra space on the right side of the YTX motherboard would be absent for regular ITX motherboards, there should be enough room for cable management, but it just won't be pretty.
i was betting around 5000!
@@kyzh99610 My daughter has an Asus Dual 3070 that would probably fit in it.
I saw the original video of that build months before, and I was blown away by how flawless it looked. I never expected this build to appear in LTT. I wish builds like this can be produced for mainstream consumers at a more affordable price.
Same, saw the original build video and thought that the concept is amazing
Very unlikely. The economy of scale would be incredibly hard to hit.
That thing is freaking gorgeous.
@@DrakeTain There are other ways to lower unit cost besides scale up
Foni channel right?
the DIY ape line is aready a small standard in china and has around 10 motherboards and similar numbers of supported cases from various manufacturers, so hopefully this trend picks up and goes global
This is an impressively engineered case. Everything fits together so perfectly and looks so well integrated together. The price honestly isn't crazy considering the low volume and high level of machining needed to make each case.
The parts of this case are fully CNC Unibody. The price is crazy low
It's not made for profit.
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bro thank you so much for this
OBS even warns about this when selecting MP4 as the recording format, so it's on them for not reading.
@@TheAnoniemoagreed. Didnt know however OBS had its oen conversion tool so thats good to know
@@TheAnoniemo my brain only make me read the first one that told it's not recoverable. i feel so dumb after idk how many years now lol.
@@Mohenjo_Daro_ oh thats easy to answer.
Apple thats why.
Apple doesnt support mkv in any of its suite programs
Major kudos to the designer. I frankly wouldn't mind that it isn't upgradable. It's an awesome little package and is ridiculously easy to move.
Exposed fans basically nullify that "easy to move" strength of SFF. It's cool looking. That's about it.
@@sntslilhlpr6601 It wouldn't be difficult to make a small carry bag or something for it...
@@sntslilhlpr6601 Literally just put it in a plastic bag or something else free of dust, and you can now move it around easily.
@@sntslilhlpr6601 put a grill on it
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The increased width on the board is actually something I would like to see adopted more by mainstream board manufacturers. Since gpus are getting so much longer it makes sense to let the mobo to start using a bit of that space that case manufacturers already leave for the gpu
So … like Eatx?
Also many cases aren’t compatible with the wider motherboards but can still leave room for the gpu.
I always thought the Shuttle XPC motherboard format was awesome basically YTX or as I called it E-ITX
@@robertt9342 That's still ATX. We need like EITX or something
This case is absolutely stunning. It looked like each case panel was single block aluminium. I would buy it in a heartbeat if I had the spare cash.
So glad you guys finally got your hands on these pc's, been watching them being put together over on the youtube channel foni
I love how it looks like a cassette player.
Me and every old timer: Absolutely!
All the Gen-Z :
Modern boom box confirmed.
I was just about to say the same thing, 100% looks like a cassette tape
@@ms3862it's basically a shell containing magnetic tape that stores music/audio, video, data, etc.
@@3polygons some of us are gen x
with the amount of engineering, designing and machining...350 is basically a steal. i would not have been surprised if the case would have been double that.
holy moly those tight fitments and tolerances. absolute respect.
The problem is definitely availability not price lol😊
寄到美国的话估计得1000刀😂太重了物流按重量收费，但机加工在中国相对来说比较便宜
The design feels straight out of a 80's/90's movie for something futuristic. Love it! Plus that case looks solid enough to fight off intruders.
Or just chuck into a bag
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The only downside to a small form factor is that if an intruder steals it, it's mobile enough so that you'll never see it again. No wonder it had to be so solid, a good offehsn is a good defense.
Whether you fight with it or chuck it into a bag, I'd be very worried over how likely you are to have the fans intact afterwards. Also, sticking objects into the fans or grabbing it absentmindedly might lead to unforseen consequences.
I was thinking it's something Doc Brown might attach to a DeLorean.
That power connector is called a PowerCON connector made by Neutrik. They're products are industry standard for event production. It's really cool to see one used in this way however its slightly upsetting because they used the white connectors instead of the blue connectors. The reason this matters is because white is supposed to mark a power output, and blue is to mark a power input. The purpose of this is for equipment that has both ports on it so you can daisy chain the power.
Ducting is such an understated design aspect for SFF especially.
I've daily driven a Dan A4 for a few years now and the difference was monumental once I installed the noctua foam duct on the L9a low profile heatsink. The actual temps themselves didn't really drop all that much but the difference it made for keeping the flow of air consistent was super noticeable. The active cooling on the chipset used to ramp up all the time once air started recycling in the case and snowballing; and those little
Matpat jumpscare at 4:31
I love how retro-futuristic it looks! Looks like a PC that belongs on a small personal spaceship. I'd love to have one!
Mac mini?
@@zzzyyy5034 A Mac Mini for games tho? 🤢
White powercon connectors are supposed to be outlet connectors (ie to supply power). In this application it should be the blue variant (which is keyed differently ). Very common issue with grey import products.
Now, _this_ is a mini-PC. Whoever designed this did a fantastic job. If they can figure out how to solve the GPU upgradability issue, it'd be better.
Audio seems to be completely desynced from the video at 5:30
anyone else have issue with audio out of sync?
The SFF community has been very interested in this case since it came out, but the way it only works with very specific components/motherboard has always been a roadblock. Still, looks super sick, and a lot of people have tried to copy it for other motherboard/CPU combos.
linus p*rn tips
shame it doesnt come with fan screens lol
Xikii also doing cool stuff in the mechanical keyboard space
What's the volume of it?
The motherboard form factor looks awesome. I can totally see this as cool inspiration and I would love to 3D print a case like this for the parts I have.
anybody else see how prepared for the package to fly into his face? barely even flinched, didn't move, its like he's robot, in fact he probably is
Anyone else notice the audio outpacing the video at just over 5:30 mark
It actually keeps happening a lot for the rest of the video.
@@TheTLProductions12 Yeah it seems to start from about 5:38 then goes the rest of the video. I just skipped through this one as its hella annoying.
does the audio go out of sync for anyone else?
I like the nod to film theory at 4:01 nice job editors!
Linus, I've seen you do some crazy stuff with some crazy computers over the years.
This one is definitely the craziest. This was awesome.
why is the audio so awfully desynced from the video itself at around 6:00?
Important PSA: the gray powercon connector is for outputs, so if you plug it in the correct receptical, the metal prongs on the connector would be live
Edit:typo
Yes BIG OH NO there and its also pretty shure not original neutrik. This could legit kill someone. (But fun fact Neutrik Powercon can go up to 20A and you shouldnt unplug it while powerd)
Literally came here to say this. It has literally shipped with a male to male power connector. Super dangerous.
Same. That's just dangerous. Also not for hot disconnects
Glad somebody mentions this. They should have used powercon True1
@@aurelbergkemper1302 normal powercon would also be fine, if they would use the correct side (although I agree that TRUE1 is the much better connector).
4:25 but thats just a theory, a motherboard theory!
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it's really awesome that they have B-roll of the individual parts afterwards to show everything linus is mentioning or talking about
really helps with seeing and understanding, better than if they showed him pointing inside the case where you barely see it from the camera
Just imagine all the different colors you could anodize this in. Looks awesome.
Was thinking a purple and greeen Gundam style. So many amazing designs come to mind
Eva-01 themed
the audio is out of sync
That mobo PCB layout makes heaps of sense.
It'd also let them do 5v/3.3v power conversion.
You could potentially have an insanely compact even higher powered flex ATX 12VO PSU as a result.
With m.2 expansion being such an important thing now, this form factor makes heaps of sense.
The formfactor and component placement make sense the issue is flex ATX PSUs aren't common and really to get one you probably have to print you own PCB. When you get into printing you own PCB you have gotten into company secrets for how intel or AMD connect to the motherboard electrically. Now if you had that as a open thing you would have many people just printing their own motherboard instead of having to make it fit the shape a motherboard manufacture made. Would it be more expensive to do it that way? Maybe depends on the design they use but for most it is normally done for size requirements are different from the standard.
@@yumri4 Power connections are not trade secrets. You know what voltages you need, just make a power supply that produces them. You might have to print a PCB for the PSU, but that's not nearly as difficult as a motherboard.
@@canadajones9635 I am talking about the traces from the CPU socket to the other components is the trade secrets. The power connector voltages have to be known by the consumer for it to be used.
This motherboard is not even expensive in mainland China, it's a H610 chip. The design is base on cutting down the space under the first pcie slot on a convensional mATX motherboard to save cost, since your gpu will cover it anyway, and use the extra pcie link for m.2 on the side. The power delivery isn't very good (another spot to save cost) so the heatsink on the mos is actually essiential (unlike those on the highend motherboard). It price like a mATX board which cost 666 Chinese Yuan at launch (about $95) and you literally could buy multiple itx boards for that price. Sadly, although the screw hole is compatiable with any mATX cases, there are only few cases support the back-plugging system, the idea didn't really take off. Personally I really like the design philosophy behind it and I hope LTT's video will give this form factor a second change.
If this were how small form factor PCs were usually built, I would have been a fanboy for decades now. Nicely done.
The motherboard reminds me a lot of what Shuttle used to put into their SFF cases - basically a longer ITX. I loved that motherboard form factor.
That white connector is a PowerCon OUTLET connector, not inlet. They've supplied you with a male to male cable, which for most usual people wouldn't be noticed but can be very dangerous.
glad I'm not the only one noticing this
I came here to say this 😂
Lol. I bought a homemade male to male 'extension cord' for power outlets from a flea market to protect randos from starting a fire once.
China finds regulations to be optional. :P
There's actually nothing wrong with cable, the only thing is that it should be blue. You're right that white is the colour of powercon thru, but the housing is correct.
I love that thing and also the "it wasn't fine...we had to reshoot him playing "😂😂😂😂
Funny story, Linus turned the unit on in the video at the same time my neighbor started trimming their hedges, so for half a second I thought the electric hedge trimmer was the sound of the case fans.
Is it just me or are the video and audio out of sync?
It's pretty cool to see Chinese companies go from extremely sketchy products to really nice products that are a bit rough on the edges now but the companies that produce the products today will be producing truly premium products in the next 10-20 years.
Up to the mid 70s, Japan was considered the make of cheap, low quality products, and it was mostly justified. There was a transit period of 5 years max, and then with companies like AIWA we started to see really high quality products that were not cheap anymore, but were a solid buy. I tried to say this before - do not deduce from the current sketchy state of Chinese quality that it will always be so. I', happy to see a top-quality product like that.
sketchy chinese products are so 5-10 years ago bro 😂
I still would never trust them.
Funny of people to call anything out of China sketchy while browsing the internet on techs that is mostly if not all 100% made in China.
@@MoreLessTer China does final assembly for most things, but they usually don't design the products.
Your iPhone might say "made in China" but not a single component or element was engineered there. Korea, Japan, and Taiwan have bigger roles in the iPhone production but since all the final parts were assembled together in China, it says made in china.
3:57 to 4:32
Editor: Thank you for this, closest I think we’ll ever get to a LTT x GT collab. I rewatched this a few times just for the lols
Honestly? This lil man is so sleek. I GENERALLY won’t look at your reviews and be like: I need that.
You win this time. I need this. I’m not a gamer, I do a TINY bit of graphic design (but mostly on my iPad), and generally just watch TH-cam/visit social media. A perfect, tiny machine.
5:41 either it's just me or there's some editing mismatched with the video and audio.
audio desync from like 5:00 onward?
Stage lighting has so many connectors, i'm just surprised they used powecon out instead of powercon in for the connector
Guess because it's white as opposed to blue.. but highly dangerous and illegal to use it like that
This is really inspiring for people who like to tinker with designs.
I mean: just grab a board and GPU, and design the smallest and coolest looking 'no-case' around it.
This one also looks like it came right out of a scifi movie, which I like a lot!
I'd love to spend time on something like this, and maybe I will!
man audio really desynced... anyone else get this?
Funnily enough, even when using what appear to be genuine Neutrik connectors they still use the wrong one (Grey should bs used for power outlet from a device, blue should be for power input)
This looks absolutely fantastic. I would freaking LOVE for a manufacturer to start making modular parts so we could build PC cases out of components, I think that'd be SO cool. Imagine something like this, only customizable.
Or using your small PC case of your not-so-powerful machine and putting its parts into a new, bigger case, so you don't have to just completely get rid of the old one and pay for a full new case. Reusability and customization, baby!
Not exactly sure what you were saying, but as far as modular.... InWin has that "case" that is "modular", purchase which modules you want, then you pick the layout.
Reusability means you won't be buying our new stuff as much so we won't do this. Kind regards
Also, getting rid of wires... If only there were a reasonable standard
who edited this video? Linus is whispering like a baby and suddenly Riley screams eardrum bursting sound to your headphones your sponsor's name. My ears still ring!
This form factor of motherboard has been used for years in small Acer Aspire PCs for years, I thought they were bespoke and this kind proves that!
Audio and Video lose sync halfway through the video. Anyone else? I checked 2 devices and same thing
Not just me then! Also checked on two browsers. Starts going off sync at about 5.40. Looks like it's only happened recently.
I really hope this form factor catch up.
It seems absolutely perfect for gaming or editing small form factor.
As a NR200P lover that build seems perfect!!! i love ittttt!!!
That case is a steal! Huge chunks of milled aluminum. This is not a cheap manufacturing process.
audio desync 06:13
i can't tell if its jsut me but the video has a very visible audio video out of sync moment starting from 6 mins in
They could maintain a list of suitable GPUs and sell those different U-shaped side panels to accommodate the shrouds. But let's face it, you get to that level of specifics and your market size goes to near zero. But it's such an awesome design!
I just love how much game theorists / movie theorists etc references we have in this video lol
I love this design and this has huge potential for mass production. Any large manufacturer would be able to build these custom components at scale other than the machined bottom. I think of this almost like the Framework where you're locked into one company for the case, motherboard, psu but the cpu/gpu/ram/sdd are all configurable. The only problem is gpu board differences between manufacturers. In order to get case specific compatibility you would need to work with a board partner but most motherboard manufactures make gpus anyways.
Sound is completely off after a while... 6:21 Can't watch, so triggering.
Who else is surprised that at 2:04 linus didn't drop it?
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Always set MKV format in OBS. Saves having to recover an mp4 or redoing it.
My favorite part was how loud the ad read at the end was compared to the rest of the video
to clarify, the SFF case is called the ForFun02 Pro or FF-02 PRO which is visible near the top at 2:01 .
it's a bespoke case to this specific mobo and GPU combo. the heatsinks with the DIY-APE branding are the "model" of this, it's not exactly a custom motherboard but rather developed concurrently with the case designer by maxsun. there's a chinese creator on TH-cam that has a full ASMR build guide, it shows them installing all of the aftermarket bits, and it looks like a fun build.
th-cam.com/video/gMkQPIji08E/w-d-xo.html
that wonderful, but what;s the youtbuer channel name lol.
@@4thofjuly395 th-cam.com/video/gMkQPIji08E/w-d-xo.html&pp=ygUEZm9uaQ%3D%3D
@@4thofjuly395 www.youtube.com/@user-lf4js8rf2x/videos
is the audio out of sync for anyone else?
Anyone else getting audio not properly synchronized with the video from 5:37 ?
Whoever edited the video, made this video infinitely more entertaining. (I wish they were credited in the description)
That computer looks pretty sick honestly. Dude has talent and a good eye for design.
Is it just me, that the Audio is Async for like half of the video?
Little mistake made by the creator. The gray power connector used is called a Neutrik Powercon. But the gray one is the output version! Not the input power. It might not be the look he is going for but he needs to use the blue Powercon chassis. Or go for the black Powercon True one.
This case gives big 80s Walkman energy
At this point, so many boxes that I didn't purchase show up at my door that I don't even question it anymore
Needs a tiny M.2 JBOD bay/backplane that you can just plug your NVME drive cards into, and the two onboard M.2 can be used for tiny PCIE hardware controllers.
Then you can hot plug your magic sticks of gum all day long until Wonka shows up and says "Good Day Sir". If something more interesting than storage turns up, you can just plug that in there too, because, hardware controller - just like the good old early days of SDIO, when you had some multifunction slots that could pretty much attach anything to your host system.
Also those fans will be super easy to clean WITH A VACUUM...wonder how many people are gonna destroy these by blasting air into them for "cleaning".
I couldn't belive this PC was on the thumbnail. Hands down I've been in this moneypit for a long time and I haven't seen anything close to this build quality.
The video desyncs at the 5th chapter for some reason
Audio sync issues?
There's a video by the channel "foni" that makes a bunch of small pcs and this pc was one of their recent builds
Aside (as other comments have mentioned) for the power connector being dangerous for being the wrong use case, I think overall this is a nice looking system that borrows a bit of that Apple aesthetic/engineering of using the chassis to sink heat. However, the exposed area/fans creates a danger situation where someone (like Linus) sticks their finger in it, or something accidently hits the fan and shatters it (I've had that happen when a case fan was exposed.) I probably would have at least put a magnetic fan filter at least over the fans, or design one with magnetic posts (since aluminum isn't magnetic.)
It is overall neat to look at though.
I guess this means you can't use a more powerful GPU on this, but I suppose it wouldn't make sense for this small of a form factor anyway.
Bottlenecks on CPU I would guess.
I think it can fit a rtx 4060 in it, which is sufficient for most case.
If you really need powerful gup, just buy nuc raptor canyon.
If you're playing at less than 4K a 3060Ti is good enough for just about anything anyway.
@@Funnywargamesman you can change the cpu, he'll you could change the cooler if you can accept I will stick out of the case alot
@@MMMHOTCHEEZE even just regular 3060. i play 1440p and play almost every game at high-ultra
Think this one needs a reupload
Why is no one mentioning video and audio are out of sync sin min 5:39? Is it just me?
I mounted my 420mm rad on the outside (top) of my case and mounted it on its edge so fresh air always gets pulled in and it doesn't dump warm air into the case
That plug actually looks like an Australian plug, just upside down, unless they intended the cable to be pointing upwards.
The two angled pins (compared to the cable) are active and neutral and the pin that's inline with the cable is ground.
Of course, we use it on a 240v 50hz supply rated for 10a on that plug, or if the ground pin is wider, 15a (acts to key a 15a plug to only fit in a 15a socket, but allows 10a plugs to use 15a sockets)
I got a baby delivered by my "wife" i was not expecting that so i left
Factual i would too
Wait, so that was even an option?
Probably not the colour you wanted
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14:58 if you see this Linus, while subtractive production does throw out lots of perfectly good metal, it is a very good production process and most fabricators re use their shavings
my old Dell Dimension 3000 used a duct style system as the main way to cool the cpu
there was only one case fan at the back of the pc, and on the inside there was a green plastic piece that directed air from that fan over the massive heat sync on the cpu
audio out of syyyync, holy crap how is this not the only comment, other than the case is niche and pretty looking
#1 thing that most worries me about this is that the fans are completely exposed and adding in my own could very well ruin the look of the case
Not to mention they have no dust screen. Within a year, the entire inside of that already overcrowded and overheating interior is going to be choking on a layer of dust
@@trapical Thats why you clean it out once in a while.. like your house or your car or anything else you own. The panels seemed easy enough to take off and theres not much that needs to be air dusted. A year is way too long to not clean your PC out.
@@trapical it's just the nature of ultra sff PC in general
"can it play Doom?"
4 horsemen of PC testing: Minesweeper, Minecraft, Roblox and Doom
who tf plays roblox to test their pc
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what about crysis
Crysis. You forgot Crysis.
I saw a project some college students did of something similar years ago in the deep, dark, forgotten corners of the web. It didn't really have a cpu cooler, and the gpu cooler / shroud was removed. The case was the heat sink and the fans were counter sunk into it and had cutouts for multiple fans on the side top and front. There was removable sections, heat sinks basically, if you needed more fans.
Manufacturer: "Let's send it in a super protective padded box so it makes it safe!"
Linus: "This thing is solid!" *Bangs it on the table*
Shout out to whoever edited this video because I love your style!
when someone finally build a pc as tightly packed as a phone! using every millimeters he's got!
and people wonder why we can't have phones that can have interchangeable parts, imagine having to change anything on this pc, it's a nightmare and phones are build with a tollerence of less than 0.1mm and more packed than this pc, you just have no space for interchangeability and soo few people would be able to do it them self that it's not worth it to produce it since a lot of those who would change parts on it, will also be able to change the parts as the phones are right now so the actual amount of people who would be able to change it and aren't already able to do it is so small
The volume on that delete me ad just about spooked me out of my chair lol
@foni here on youtube dropped a video with a similar case, it's pretty cool and I kinda like the idea of a locking power connectors. I wish rackmount equipment had them.
Ltt referencing matpats game theory was the last thing i expected but im here fore it. I'd love to see a full on collab between you guys at some point.