Open Bar #15 - RIP Batwoman! Dr Strange 2 Disappoints, Moon Knight Is A Mess

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  • Join Chris Gore, Drunk 3P0, HeelvsBabyface, MauLer and myself as we discuss the death of Batwoman, Moon Knight being a complete mess, and find out if Doctor Strange 2 lived up to expectations.
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ความคิดเห็น • 645

  • @tajanisc
    @tajanisc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +631

    I can’t believe they deleted the scene where Morbius jumped out of a portal saying, “It’s Morbin’ time!” killing Wanda immediately

    • @awesomeerr8765
      @awesomeerr8765 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Tyrannosaurus!!!

    • @braydenb1581
      @braydenb1581 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Sabertooth tiger!!!

    • @nicolamarco7110
      @nicolamarco7110 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      The fuckin Pachysaurus from Jurrasic World 2 😂

    • @Shiirow
      @Shiirow 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Mighty Morbin Power Vampires.

    • @Turuial
      @Turuial 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Dragonzord!
      (It's funny seeing as zord was part of his opening word. I always wondered if it was because dragons were mythical creatures unlike the rest of the original crew. )

  • @Dave_L913
    @Dave_L913 2 ปีที่แล้ว +253

    1:10:00 "Blackbolt can kill you with a whisper" gave me "This is Slipknot, he can climb anything" vibes.

    • @Unknown-hb3id
      @Unknown-hb3id 2 ปีที่แล้ว +74

      "This is Katana, she's got my back. She could cut all of you in half with one sword stroke, just like mowing the lawn. I would advise not getting killed by her, her sword traps the souls of its victims."

    • @MrDman21
      @MrDman21 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      At least this Black Bolt had the right look. Not that Spirits Halloween bullshit. 😆

    • @blackdynamite_5470
      @blackdynamite_5470 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      ~ said by the smartest man in existence 2022

    • @papumerta5013
      @papumerta5013 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      #sidwilson

    • @SuperMegaGaelourde
      @SuperMegaGaelourde ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Now just imagine if that line came from Capt Boomerang and was said directly to Amanda Waller as Slipknot was gradually climbing away behind him... Cus that was the MOM scene.

  • @Runner2000
    @Runner2000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +160

    Wanda: Had enough?
    Captain Carter: I can do this for one minute and thirty-seven seconds.

    • @blackdynamite_5470
      @blackdynamite_5470 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      come guys...she's a woma
      * Cut to Robin *
      "Who wants to be in that stupid team anyways?"

    • @Runner2000
      @Runner2000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@blackdynamite_5470
      😂😂😂

  • @nont18411
    @nont18411 2 ปีที่แล้ว +321

    John Walker: Killed one person (who is a terrorist), face huge consequences and somehow became the most hated character of the entire MCU for eternity.
    Yelena Belova: Committing mass murder while laughing at it and now is one of the fan favorites. Never faces consequences.
    Wanda Maximoff: Literally committing genocide and slavery and still getting full support for the fans, saying “She did nothing wrong.” “Everything she did was valid.” and “She deserves better.”

    • @MuskiewisAskiew69420
      @MuskiewisAskiew69420 2 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      For real. I was part of that group till I woke up and was realizing me thinking all this was weird but kept being told.”it’s a comic movie deal with it”

    • @sithsaiyan4529
      @sithsaiyan4529 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Makes cents to me.

    • @Zathren
      @Zathren 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Now I need to Google the names John Walker and Yelena Belova, I dread what I find.

    • @brentmichael4770
      @brentmichael4770 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It translates to real life white hero that shoots black woman with a knife about to kill another black person. And he's considered a murderer! Dude saved a life! The first mass shooter to be released on bail is a black man! Society is divided the lines are clear! This is the type of division that will lead to war and genocide in your life time.

    • @curezilla
      @curezilla 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Walker is the current definition of villain in Hollywood. He should have had a wood pecker tattoo, and driven a Mercedes.

  • @nont18411
    @nont18411 2 ปีที่แล้ว +167

    “We are out of cream.”
    Legendary quote from Batwoman

    • @skylx0812
      @skylx0812 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ...skin bleach, or hair straightener?

    • @essexclass8168
      @essexclass8168 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      *SLAM!*
      "What'd you bring me?"

    • @ANobodyatall
      @ANobodyatall 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Double?

    • @kf3920
      @kf3920 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      "Why are we out of cream, Alice?"

  • @For0489
    @For0489 2 ปีที่แล้ว +274

    Mauler if there was ever a movie that deserved an "unbridled rage" 3 hour long video....this would be it

    • @dudeduderson4077
      @dudeduderson4077 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It would be his longest one yet

    • @Charleroi92
      @Charleroi92 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I think he's already on it

    • @Runner2000
      @Runner2000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Yes!
      And then Wanda chops Captain Peggy in half.
      You go, gurl.

    • @avrhamcom
      @avrhamcom 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Charleroi92 did he said that? I think he will wait for the Disney plus release but regardless I hope he will do it

    • @Charleroi92
      @Charleroi92 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@avrhamcom I don't know if he said it, but I doubt it's not in the works. It's a total Mauler thing to do

  • @peterb5235
    @peterb5235 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    48:20 The way Drinker's mouth opens slightly in disbelief at the "memory store" has me DYING hahahaha!!!

  • @T.J.S.
    @T.J.S. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    "I'm not a monster Stephen,I'm a mother."
    - Wanda (M-She-U)

    • @chasehedges6775
      @chasehedges6775 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂.
      Brilliant writing.

  • @izzieingriselli8973
    @izzieingriselli8973 2 ปีที่แล้ว +180

    The fact that Batwoman is getting canceled is sweet justice indeed 🤣

    • @chasehedges6775
      @chasehedges6775 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Never watched the show.

    • @carlbutcher9854
      @carlbutcher9854 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@chasehedges6775 I made it about 15 minutes which was 15 minutes to long.

    • @jonbaxter2254
      @jonbaxter2254 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Is it? It had 3 series of this shit, so many good shows get cancelled after 2

    • @carlbutcher9854
      @carlbutcher9854 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@jonbaxter2254 I think they kept it going even after it should been cancelled to keep pushing the message . People can live any way they want I think but when the whole show was just a rant for the message the rest of the show suffered.

    • @skylx0812
      @skylx0812 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      _"Hey guys, Adam Lambert just left Batwoman."_
      -ItsaGundam when Ruby Rose left the show
      Thats my only experience with the series, and prolly the only one necessary

  • @justiron2999
    @justiron2999 2 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    I laughed so hard when Blackbolt and Jim died to Wanda. Everyone was quiet and left in suspense because two people died but I was dying from trying to hold my laughter. I knew that it was coming but I couldn't help it it was so random.

    • @justiron2999
      @justiron2999 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @Marcus Fenix Yeah, blackbolt is basically a God, yet she managed to erase his mouth but couldn't do that to the other 3? Especially the one human who had nothing but steroids and a shield? Jim just got peeled like a cheese stick and idk how black captain marvel died. Wasn't she overpowered and broken? Just like the endgame captain marvel? Plus Wanda is just a human, she can die pretty quickly.

  • @LucLightWolf121
    @LucLightWolf121 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    I love Jay's and Drinker's reactions to the Doctor Strange 2 spoliers.😂

  • @jtparryheb
    @jtparryheb 2 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    We need to start a new movement: Multiverse lives matter. They aren't disposable just because they come from a different universe and are fodder for these writers

  • @scottf5791
    @scottf5791 2 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    It’s always great to see Chris Gore on here again. I think he speaks for how a lot of us feel.

  • @_Dovar_
    @_Dovar_ 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This is by far my favorite Open Bar.

    • @chasehedges6775
      @chasehedges6775 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Same. Especially the Dr Strange and MoonKnight breaks downs

  • @wickedlester5320
    @wickedlester5320 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    When Wanda said “no more mutants” in House of M, that was a shock and a literal game changer that affected the Marvel comic world in one amazing line. Apparently movie writers thought that was weak.

  • @DoNutx777
    @DoNutx777 2 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    The most laughable thing is the resolution in the last act, which is the laziest shonen anime writing bullshit anyone can do.
    One short speech and America was like "maybe I am strong all this time" and Wanda goes "oh, I've been a horrible person and just realized that now". Are they fucking kidding?

    • @sippinlosses
      @sippinlosses 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      The Talk No jutsu

    • @chasehedges6775
      @chasehedges6775 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      💯💯💯. Indeed. The final act was awful and laughable

  • @callumsparrow4379
    @callumsparrow4379 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Not-so Fun Fact: In the Last Jedi Top Trumps card-set, Luke Skywalker has a higher number on the Fear & Anger status than the First Order Stormtrooper.

  • @syksis9842
    @syksis9842 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Watching this super late in the game, but I love how you guys predicted literally everything that happens in the Kenobi show. That’s hilarious. All that was missing is Obi-Wan killing Luke

    • @T3noir
      @T3noir ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Also watching late, and I was giggling like a madman listening to them predict EVERYTHING RIGHT in kenobi. God I hate Disney with every fiber of my being

  • @dudesayingthings
    @dudesayingthings ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Also, even if black bolt is killed by his own voice, we HEAR the sound he makes. So doesn't that mean the sound came out?? I'm not familiar with black bolt's character biography, but is there a rule saying his voice has to come out of his mouth to have damage? If we hear the noise, then it should still have damaged Wanda (and everyone else in the vicinity), right?

  • @joshuaward7222
    @joshuaward7222 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    RIP Batwoman. You were not good, you were not fun, and you will not be missed!👋

  • @johnatwood13
    @johnatwood13 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This aged like fine wine cuz they were pretty spot on for what would happen in kenobi 😂

  • @Shiirow
    @Shiirow 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    "shes crying and crying and no tears are coming out."
    Dont worry, they will add them in post production.

    • @chasehedges6775
      @chasehedges6775 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      “Don’t worry, I’ll see you in looping.”
      Sylvester Stallone.
      😂😂😂

  • @nont18411
    @nont18411 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    This movie could be wayyy better (but still won’t be a good movie) if they acknowledge Wanda as straight up evil the same way they did with Thanos.
    I mean, Thanos is a bad guy. Everyone knows that but the reason he’s a fan favorite because his reasoning, albeit delusional, is compelling and he has the unmatched conviction for his cause. Yet as compelling as he is, the Avengers still consider him as evil (as it should be).
    Wanda, on the other hand, did all this for her own selfish reason. Which is okay if people consider what she did as wrong and actively tried to stop her for real but what we got is that the Avengers keep telling us that she did the “right thing” while the people who actually called out her actions are considered as “villains” like Hayward and Agatha Harkness (whom I still don’t know how she is evil. She killed the witches who attacked her first so it’s self defense and she killed a fake dog).

    • @libertyprime6932
      @libertyprime6932 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      And Thanos is LESS evil than Wanda, Thanos turns the Guardians into spaghetti to get away from them, then turns them back. Wanda turns people into spaghetti then blows their head apart.
      Thanos is doing it all in a misguided attempt to save the universe. Wanda I'd doing it because she lost imaginary kids...

    • @nont18411
      @nont18411 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@libertyprime6932 I still consider Thanos as far more evil because he has a higher body count. But Wanda deserves to be in a villain category.

    • @NathanCassidy721
      @NathanCassidy721 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The difference is the people writing villains nowadays are morally bankrupt and have no idea what evil is because they have no life.

    • @sammydray5919
      @sammydray5919 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@nont18411 Thanos was a threat to half of our main universe. Wanda was a threat to EVERY universe in the MCU. Thanos end goal was what he believed would be the "salvation" of the universe while Wanda did it all because she couldn't get over her grief and wanted her fake kids (who she can just always project again) back aka a very selfish reason. At this point Wanda is the biggest c*nt the MCU has ever seen.

  • @bromarama9980
    @bromarama9980 2 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    The writer working on Rick and Morty is another nail in the 'hack' coffin; his version of the multi-verse reminded me of the scene where the sentient phones ordered couches on people while sitting on pizza. Unfortunate that this premise has so much creative potential but its just a cheap vehicle for recycled jokes and disregarding canon.

    • @justin9744
      @justin9744 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Not to mention he only wrote ONE episode for Rick and Morty.

    • @thehermitman822
      @thehermitman822 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      That explains the paint dimension.

    • @jona3180
      @jona3180 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      With extra rotery!

    • @bromarama9980
      @bromarama9980 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jona3180 Half black guys, half hispanic

    • @dudesayingthings
      @dudesayingthings ปีที่แล้ว +1

      To be fair the council of Rick and Morty was a good setup.

  • @marywinchester1322
    @marywinchester1322 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I feel bad for Sam Raimi. He was forced to change up Spider-Man 3 and now Dr. Strange 2.

  • @nathanmartin7550
    @nathanmartin7550 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I love coming back to this after seeing kenobi and seeing how drinkers' prediction actually would have been better than what we got.

  • @maizillo
    @maizillo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    I would love to see Mauler's 3+ hour analysis of this movie.

    • @seanestep4546
      @seanestep4546 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Check for EFAP breakdown with Nerdrotic - they got through the first 40mins or so in 4hrs, expect a part 2 (maybe 3 & 4) in the near future.😉👍

    • @maizillo
      @maizillo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@seanestep4546
      I was lucky to see it live!

    • @S4ns
      @S4ns 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      3 hours?
      That will only cover the first 20 minutes.
      This movie was so nonsensical it will take at least a 12 hour rage to fully autopsy this turkey.

    • @maizillo
      @maizillo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      For that the +

    • @MALICEM12
      @MALICEM12 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I don't actually like when they get that long. It stops being concise critiques and becomes nitpicking. It shouldn't be longer than the damn movie. I don't need to hear how someone stood up from seating in the "wrong" way or something petty. Just the actual meat. His black widow movie review *really* dragged on (yes it was a bad movie, I know) but it just comes to a point of wasting both our and his time (and sanity).

  • @rumorcontrol7873
    @rumorcontrol7873 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I just realized that the reason Chavez says the line about food is that she needs to eat so of course she would punch her way into universes that give food away for free, she's largely only ever Visited realities where food is given away to strangers because she's a bum!

  • @GrimGalore
    @GrimGalore 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    This movie is proof that Disney isn't making movies for thoughtful fans. They're making them for low IQ Disney Cultists.

  • @Benjamin.Jamin.
    @Benjamin.Jamin. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    You guys are my favourite. I love FNT but prefer the calmer, dryer, British, commentary.

  • @daveeyes
    @daveeyes 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    You know, I watched John Wick 2 just to see Ruby Rose get her ass kicked. She's insufferably smug.
    Am I a bad person? Do I need therapy?

    • @chasehedges6775
      @chasehedges6775 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      She was good in Xander Cage and, yes, John Wick 2

    • @ANobodyatall
      @ANobodyatall 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      No.

    • @MuskiewisAskiew69420
      @MuskiewisAskiew69420 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      “I’ll be seeing you” as she is dying lol you will not 😂 bad writing lol

    • @moonlitskylight5740
      @moonlitskylight5740 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MuskiewisAskiew69420 That may have meant "you'll be dead soon enough, too".

    • @moonlitskylight5740
      @moonlitskylight5740 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I watch Taken to see the mom cry over her daughter being kidnapped. She and the girl treat the dad like crap. Then she's kidnapped and now dad is the best.

  • @RedStar441
    @RedStar441 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Multiverse of Madness is so bad it took the spotlight away from Morbius. Did you guys know it got 3 trillion in ticket sales?

  • @memymomalex
    @memymomalex 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I love ** SPOILER ** that the end credits is a guy punching himself in the face over and over again, and then it stops and he's like 'It's Over!' Um...could there have been a more perfect metaphor for our experience of watching the movie?

  • @emailandi82
    @emailandi82 2 ปีที่แล้ว +94

    Was so excited to hear Sam Raimi was going to direct this film. And visually it had some great effects and concepts. But the story....holy shit it was a mess! Raimi did his job and made the film look stunning but the man can only do so much to save a film. Also lots of evil dead effects sprinkled throughout the movie, fucking loved that. Everything else has major problems.

    • @raijn2754
      @raijn2754 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      The outer layers of the film was pretty but damn the inner layers were shit

    • @MuskiewisAskiew69420
      @MuskiewisAskiew69420 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      True made me just wanna watch all the evil deads. Good movies haha

    • @Zathren
      @Zathren 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Really wish people would stop giving their money to Disney. Just watch a free review online. Way better.

    • @theblackflame4002
      @theblackflame4002 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Its all in the poor writing Raimi is a good director Elizabeth Olson is a good actress, and continues Marvel's success in casting people who really look the part, but when the script calls for you to have no direction, act good, act bad, be a hero, be a villain and BTW the plot is thinner than paper, what are you going to do?
      I sometimes wonder when these actors take on a role because its their job, how often they ask themselves WTF are awe actually doing, during the filming.

    • @Zathren
      @Zathren 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@theblackflame4002 Is she? I was never blone away by her looka nor her acting.

  • @danishcartoonist545
    @danishcartoonist545 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Good to see this stream finally up!! I’m at about 7:42 and just noticing how Drunk3P0 perfectly fits in with the artwork. It looks like Mauler’a arm leaning on the bar is him leaning on the bar. Immersion 10/10

    • @Lebowski92
      @Lebowski92 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Good god o'mighty 😱😁!
      Great catch 👍🏻!

    • @danishcartoonist545
      @danishcartoonist545 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Lebowski92 to be fair, Jay himself noticed and also pointed it out less than a minute later hahaha

    • @Lebowski92
      @Lebowski92 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Fairplay 😁.
      But without your comment, I would have overlooked it, so thanks 😜🤙🏻!

  • @Genethagenius
    @Genethagenius 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Open Bar, EFAP, FNT, and Real BBC, the best damn shows in entertainment period!!

  • @vipersb1
    @vipersb1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Batwoman got 3 seasons, Mindhunter got 2... let that sink in a minute.

  • @Darkwintre
    @Darkwintre 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Dr Strange 2 lived up to what?
    I thought that was The Scarlet Witch movie?

    • @chasehedges6775
      @chasehedges6775 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Ah yes, the “the main character is a side character in his own story” cliche

  • @AmericanRollo
    @AmericanRollo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    There’s almost an irony that in a DR STRANGE movie, turns out there was more than one way to defeat Thanos

    • @skyhunter2816
      @skyhunter2816 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Such as?

    • @AmericanRollo
      @AmericanRollo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@skyhunter2816 did you watch the film? We literally see an alternate world where they defeat Thanos on Titan

    • @sippinlosses
      @sippinlosses 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@bloodspittingspartan5002 it implies that he saw all the ALTERNATE WORLDS where they did win, when he did his time dream shit in infinity war. He choose to lie and shit on Tony tho, because it was the safest way for the universe, despite destroying the infinity stones. THAT'S why we get the scene where his buddy asks "was it the only way?". The MCU universe has a darkhold, and he could've gotten it 🤷‍♂️, it's right in some small town in New Jersey less than 2 hours away probably from NY. This shit is plot hole city. So maybe you, and the other guy should rewatch the movie.

    • @bloodspittingspartan5002
      @bloodspittingspartan5002 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sippinlosses yeah, becsuse you still havent disproven my point, and thanos could easily put a hole in Strange's head with any of the Stone's, so yeah.

    • @sippinlosses
      @sippinlosses 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bloodspittingspartan5002 you deleted your point, I can't see it anymore

  • @ra2.0yeetedition17
    @ra2.0yeetedition17 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Dr. Strange and the Multiverse of Madness is a “How it should have ended” gold mine.
    The film shouldn’t get past two minutes with the rules established

  • @wickedlester5320
    @wickedlester5320 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Mauler would spend hours and hours blasting the Seinfeld pilot let alone Strange 2.

  • @coreyschultz7245
    @coreyschultz7245 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Drunk3PO's prediction at around 1:47:10 turned out to be so spot-on, unfortunately

  • @zionleach3001
    @zionleach3001 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    R.I.P. Batwoman you will be missed-by nobody and forgotten.

  • @callmealex69
    @callmealex69 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    So the darkhold is tom riddles diary?

  • @3djooboy
    @3djooboy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    was looking forward to Doctor Strange 2, avoided spoilers but when i saw you guys talking about it in every stream and real BBC i dropped into a non spoiler bit and OMFG...thanks for saving me Cinema money. HEaring Mauler take it apart just boggles my mind how they effed this up SO BADLY.

  • @DaveyMan8868
    @DaveyMan8868 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    2:50:48 Nobody's getting married tomorrow. It's always, "Hey, I found out I have cancer today." or, "My wife died yesterday." or "I lost my job today so here let me send you a superchat."

  • @SpartyCubsFan
    @SpartyCubsFan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    1:23:01 This is the M-She-U.
    Gotta admire Feige - it’s one thing to destroy a dormant franchise like Star Wars or He-Man, and yet another to do so when it’s at its zenith and arguably most successful of any franchise

    • @talentroller4413
      @talentroller4413 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      its still making huge bank at the moment. already 500 million

    • @chasehedges6775
      @chasehedges6775 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kevin Feige and Kathleen Kennedy are the plague of Marvel/MCU and Star Wars.
      If Walt Disney was still alive, I’d guarantee you he would despise them.
      I miss when Disney was good.

  • @wwyd4akb
    @wwyd4akb 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It amuses me to no end that the Arand-Darren Verse is so much better than whet the mcu has become. Two Authors writing a series of novels that are/ can be related, defeat the entirety of Disney on every metric I can think of.

  • @anthonyeldridge4358
    @anthonyeldridge4358 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm almost scared of what some folks might do to an AZ plushy.
    "And ANOTHER reason why Tom King is one of the best Batman writers....."
    **plushy bursts into flames**

  • @charmandyorton006
    @charmandyorton006 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    47:24 This is a Memory Store moment

  • @DonnyDelco
    @DonnyDelco ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Watching this in February 2023, and the predictions about REE-vuh around the 1:40:00 mark are so hilariously accurate. Disney writers should be forced to watch this stream at least 5 times before they're allowed to write a script again.

    • @JeThoreau_
      @JeThoreau_ ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Unfortunately, even if this writers strike ends soon… Disney lately has forced writers to do pretty much the exact opposite of watching these guys

  • @magnustoth8506
    @magnustoth8506 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    With a group like this, you’ve got more entertainment than an episode of Better Call Saul.

    • @owenabbiss3443
      @owenabbiss3443 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      super random but yeah😂 i hope that’s not a dig at better call saul though

    • @nont18411
      @nont18411 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      True. Unfortunately, Better Call Saul also fell victim to the “a male titular character was put aside to prop up a strong female character as a protagonist that must be loved by the fans” trope.

    • @dudeduderson4077
      @dudeduderson4077 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@nont18411 I actually think Kim is a very well rounded character and not as agenda driven as you're stating..

    • @nont18411
      @nont18411 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dudeduderson4077 She is a well rounded character. It’s true. But can’t deny that Saul was sidelined in his own show for her.

    • @skyhunter2816
      @skyhunter2816 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@nont18411 If anything he was sidelined by literally every other male lead.

  • @nuclearbullfrog
    @nuclearbullfrog 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Even in the comics Wanda's (Scarlett Witch) powers are hard to define, my understanding she can change reality but based on %chance. At the end of The House of M comics she uses her power to get rid of all mutants (X-men) but it only effects like 70% of mutants lose their power.

  • @miyoko_17
    @miyoko_17 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    8:45 when the background aligns perfectly to the video stream...😂 (look at Jay)

  • @younggreg6155
    @younggreg6155 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Honestly, Dr. Strange MoM really disappointed me. The writing from the beginning was really sub par for me and the only thing I was looking forward to was the 'fanservice-y' moments where we get to see Mr. Fantastic, Black Bolt, Prof. X, and Captain Carter. That being said, somehow they even ruined those characters by having them all killed off in the most disrespectful ways.

  • @LCattivo
    @LCattivo ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Couldn't agree more! 12 Angry Men - what a movie!

  • @jonbaxter2254
    @jonbaxter2254 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I'm liking the Ethan Hawk rennaisaince going on. Moon Knight, The Northman, hope to see him in more stuff.

  • @RM_VFX
    @RM_VFX 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If WWII was a current day film, they would have to debate whether Hitler was really wrong to conduct the Holocaust.

    • @TheB00tyWarrior
      @TheB00tyWarrior 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's a great idea for a parody.

    • @MALICEM12
      @MALICEM12 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      No, everything in our modern society was built of of the mythology of WWII. They will not turn their back on the canon that their power stems from. They are where they are because of WWII, not in spite of it. The allied WWII narrative that you are thinking of right now is the thing they used to get power for decades. It serves them, not you.

  • @rescuehamster1734
    @rescuehamster1734 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    "Rise of Skywalker is like watching your family member getting r**ed."
    Yeah, thats how I felt about Moon Knight.

  • @everythingpotatoversion1201
    @everythingpotatoversion1201 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My favorite part of DrStrange 2 is big cameo from Paul Mccartney where he stated that The Beatles was a hip hop group

    • @skylx0812
      @skylx0812 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ...thought he did that to Badfinger

  • @seanestep4546
    @seanestep4546 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love AZ and Jay (hail HeelvsBabyface and Drunk3po 🙌) and Chris Gore is the GOAT! Thanks as always for being more entertaining and informative than any "entertainment" or "news" we are firehose-fed daily 🙏👍🤘🇨🇦🐻🥾👶🐐

  • @TheVoiceofKizzy
    @TheVoiceofKizzy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Just a statue, just a knife, just go to the memory store.... ahhh this movie is so comforting. Nothings complicated or requires real work. So... easy

    • @chasehedges6775
      @chasehedges6775 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Dr Strange in the Multiverse of Mediocrity and convenience.

  • @fourthdrawerdown6297
    @fourthdrawerdown6297 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Using magic to explain logical inconsistencies is tight.

  • @wrayday7149
    @wrayday7149 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I don't hate the Hela thing from Ragnarok. The movie clearly establishes she was Odin's most powerful daughter/general and she liked war too much and was banished when the 7 realms were brought to peace. Thor came after her and didn't know about her so he fought in far less hostile times than she did.
    So I have no issue with her being stronger and a better fighter than he was. It's just every other time they do the stronk whaman they never set it up properly.

    • @thehermitman822
      @thehermitman822 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Cate Blanchet sells it too.

    • @chasehedges6775
      @chasehedges6775 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@thehermitman822 She’s a fantastic, legendary actress.

    • @MALICEM12
      @MALICEM12 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@thehermitman822 she looked really hot in that eye shadow with her hair down

  • @OceanbornAngel
    @OceanbornAngel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +77

    I find it eerie...this Dr. Strange 2 almost sounds like a few ideas I wrote in a Dragonball Z Multiverse fanfiction I wrote a few years ago, right down to Wanda escaping her imprisonment using mirrors..except in my story it was because one of the main characters was the key to traveling through the reflective surface of choice...well for obvious reasons that I will not divulge. (Don't want Marvel to steal anymore of my ideas for their poorly written s*** shows.) If I was a Hollywood Writer I would be thinking that the hack that wrote this stole some of my narrative device ideas. Very very curious Marvel...I could have written your Dr. Strange Sequel movie light years better.

    • @MyGamerforlife
      @MyGamerforlife 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I think I’d like to read this fanfic.

    • @OceanbornAngel
      @OceanbornAngel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@MyGamerforlife Due to real life stress of several real life emergencies I haven't really finished writing this story, but it's people like you that convince me to finish it. I think my major issue is that I am not very good at writing action scenes, this is where I tend to get my writer's block. I guess once I can get myself a new Flash Drive to save my fanfiction I will finish it. What I haven't written yet, I have it in my head all plotted out. I just need to find a proper place to publish it free since it is a fanfiction, well that isn't Fanfiction.net because their format is awful.

    • @bearjuncture
      @bearjuncture 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@OceanbornAngel Writing block is the death of most writers who are trying to enter into that type of work.

    • @MALICEM12
      @MALICEM12 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I highly doubt that stole an anime fanfiction, in fact it's much easier to sum it up as "nostalgia for Evil Dead and typical Disney propaganda".

    • @chasehedges6775
      @chasehedges6775 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MALICEM12 💯💯

  • @kwazhims3lf
    @kwazhims3lf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "a ha! i have outsmarted you, protaganist!"
    "...... reverse uno card"
    "---OH this is some bULLSH"

  • @geek-topics7454
    @geek-topics7454 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    MY GOSH! Rewatching this after Kenobi and seeing what the drinker says at 1:44:36 about Reva hinting Kenobi and Vader just being pissed at Reva, chockes her, then lets her go is such an accurate prediction. Good job drinker!!!! You're a god!

  • @chronicles8324
    @chronicles8324 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    about time this got posted :o) , missed it live and been checking every day to see if it was up again

  • @GenMVeers
    @GenMVeers 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    2:28:01 *_Lucky Number Slevin_* (2006)??? Please, the makers of that movie tried _so_ hard to make a movie that'd be "cool", "smart" and "witty", that they forgot to check the plot for holes-and there are _so_ many, I quickly sold my DVD away to someone who was gullible enough to buy it 😅!

  • @anvec6145
    @anvec6145 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    AZ doing his Batwhamen exit bit was the best part of CW's Batwoman

  • @sba8710
    @sba8710 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I did that exact thing described with Dr. Strange 2. Had no clue about what was happening. Plus it wasn’t even mostly him.
    I don’t have Disney Plus.

  • @RM_VFX
    @RM_VFX 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Disney stuff feels like Funko Pops. All the same style, safe, rounded corners.

  • @cypcyphurra8755
    @cypcyphurra8755 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    My biggest issue of todays Films , Series... It's just content. Fuck me, just give me good stories and characters.

  • @WubbaLubbaDubDubs
    @WubbaLubbaDubDubs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    We need a BiWeekly open bar. Twice the awesomeness

    • @Rhbrehaut
      @Rhbrehaut 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I’d get alcohol poisoning just from osmosis.

    • @mayanksharma3651
      @mayanksharma3651 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'd need a couple of livers for that

  • @voorindeklas
    @voorindeklas ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Watching this couple of months later. They predicted Obi One to the letter. They solved the formula.

  • @anarionelendili8961
    @anarionelendili8961 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Glass in the shoes:
    It is explained. Harrow references his 'penance' when talking to Ammit. At least I took it to mean the physical penance of pain of the glass in his shoes, etc. Trying to balance his scales before Ammit is released.

    • @lolersauresrex8837
      @lolersauresrex8837 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah I like most of these guys critiques but when they just straight up miss details that would explain some of their criticisms it’s just an oof, and indirectly weakens their critiques.

    • @tajanisc
      @tajanisc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@lolersauresrex8837 In the grand calculus of criticisms, a small missed detail means infinitely nothing in the shitstorm known as D+

    • @lolersauresrex8837
      @lolersauresrex8837 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tajanisc this is true

    • @socialjihad5724
      @socialjihad5724 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I just assumed that his "penance" he was referring to was freeing Ammit in the first place

    • @EnsignRedshirtRicky
      @EnsignRedshirtRicky 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@socialjihad5724 Exactly. There is more than one possible way to interpret it when you are forced to fill in all the blanks yourself.

  • @gman7497
    @gman7497 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I do agree that they need to simplify these plots. I think using the 'multiverse' as the basis for phase 4 was a mistake, it requires like savant level of intelligence to lay it out in a sensible manner, and that level of writing is just not there.
    I miss Tony Stark. RDJs acting grounded alot of this stuff, he had a casual manner that made all this craziness believable. I understand he didn't wanna do the role anymore, but Feige could at least have worked harder to convince him to have a cameo or just, some kinda presence (as maybe AI Stark)

    • @scottphillips8607
      @scottphillips8607 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      I disagree, it requires idiot level intelligence to manage. Multiverse is like time travel in writing - it should only ever be a vehicle for setting up a story, not mechanic in it. It's great for setting up a story like "what if Superman took over the world," but that's where it should end. Solutions to problems should never happen through the multiverse. The problem is that the concept itself starts to break down logically extremely quickly. If you say there's an infinite number of universes each being a little different that makes all actions taken by a chacter have a net value of 0, and if you say there are a limited number you're left with having to explain why infinity isn't infinite. If your explanation is that "this specific event created one," that begs the question of why the other universe wouldn't have a different but similar event that creates another. And even worse, if you bring time travel in it becomes impossible to justify how that never happened in your second multiverse without simply saying "everyone died before that could happen." But then, *everyone* died? All of the apparently infinite races of aliens didn't create a multiverse before they died? What about ancient extinct alien species? And it goes on and on. Like I said, multiverse is a great way to pose specific "what-ifs" or hard moral questions, but as a mechanic in universe, they are the death of writing.

    • @gman7497
      @gman7497 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@scottphillips8607 that's kinda what I meant. If you just use it as a means of creating a story it's fine. I thought the 'What If' series was a cool concept in theory, just peeking into an alternative reality to see how things COULD'VE happened if circumstances were changed. But trying to tie it into the mainline story will create nothing but problems for all the reasons you brought up.

    • @mahoutsuguy863
      @mahoutsuguy863 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@gman7497 even then they messed up the premise of what if as many of the universes shown in that series werent actually detailing what little differences would change things on a grander scale....all sorts of things were different that shouldnt have been. And yes, the multiverse is infinite but when you sell a show on the idea that we'll be seeing the familiar diverted for an alternative and then you deliver mostly whatever nonsense you wanted, its disappointing. A few of those eps were good though and couldnt been a basis for a great movie over what we got here.

    • @gman7497
      @gman7497 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mahoutsuguy863 I feel like they really missed an opportunity to make the episodes tonally different from the main MCU, and yeah as you stated really be creative and mess with origins and world building. Like rather than the Captain Carter episode rehashing First Avenger's plot they could have done something crazy, like the Americans being the antagonists and maybe having CC fight an evil Steve Rogers with the proto Iron man suit.
      The Zombies episode could have been truly horrifying but instead it used the normal MCU tongue in cheek humor. And the Thor episode basically was mainline Thor, just maybe like 15% more himbo in a plot that was kinda pointless and didn't explore anything of consequence.

    • @MALICEM12
      @MALICEM12 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      His contract is over, get over it. The legacy characters aren't coming back and that's honestly better as it would ruin their arc and ending if they did. Let Tony have his sacrifice and Steve his "long way home". Having come back for some flash back or data log or whatever would just cheapen it and Disney would probably pull a Luke Skywalker on them anyways.

  • @Blu3-Fir3
    @Blu3-Fir3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    2:39:50 As a long time fan of Riordan's work, I already know that this new Percy Jackson thing is going to be super woke. Rick Riordan made the mistake of caving and apologizing to the leftists on Tumblr years ago, and each series he has written have become progressively more "diverse and representative". The writing, however, has gone right off a cliff. I hope whatever this Percy Jackson thing is bombs and fails.

  • @garyhilton656
    @garyhilton656 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Captain marvel can take a huge ship’s countless laser blasts, Thanos power stone but a statue was too much…1:06:29

  • @will14ist
    @will14ist 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    If iron man came out today peper pots would have been the one to shut down the iron monger with some hacking BS that and Tony's suit wouldn't have been enough to stop the big bad by himself.

  • @ILoveMyMalinois
    @ILoveMyMalinois 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Where's the superchat catch up stream? Was going to listen to it on my drive home yesterday but couldn't find it...

  • @neosho3953
    @neosho3953 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Love these collabs! Great panel as always.

  • @shawnlaufer1601
    @shawnlaufer1601 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    RIP BatWamin, she could only shine oh so bright before the end.

  • @ghostnigh008
    @ghostnigh008 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The minute I heard what Amit's plan was thevfirst thing to pop in my head was that this is almost basically like the algorithm from project insight in Winter Soldier

  • @Tomb_world
    @Tomb_world 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    With the glass in the shoes thing, Ethan Hawke’s character really briefly mentions in the final episode about “trying to atone” because he knows his scales don’t balance or whatever. But I bet about 4% of the audience was still paying attention at the point anyway.

  • @lionrek
    @lionrek 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Dr. Strange is a side character of his own movie. Just like with all the new spiderman

  • @arewestilldoingphrasing6490
    @arewestilldoingphrasing6490 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    39:29 Double mom portal puncher LOL

  • @paulaseabee8442
    @paulaseabee8442 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I wonder if part of the success of The Northman is it's the stripped down, historically accurate(-ish) origin of Shakespear's Hamlet.
    Years ago, I got a DVD of Prince of Jutland (with Gabriel Byrne and Christian Bale) which was also a Hamlet base ... and that was surprisingly good!

    • @NathanCassidy721
      @NathanCassidy721 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think it has more to do with the fact that it’s a niche movie rather than a broad mass market movie.
      It’s a Robert Egbert film, who gained some notoriety from The Lighthouse among the independent films audience. It’s obvious that he tried to make the setting historically accurate, piquing the interest of the historical community. And it’s clearly a one-and-done original movie which will appeal to the growing number of people sick of franchises and reboots. And it’s clearly focused on telling a good story rather than pandering to woke ideology.
      It’s clearly appealing to a niche that is actively being ignored by Hollywood and sucking up the money they are leaving on the table.

  • @DrEnginerd1
    @DrEnginerd1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    > be Chris gore
    > show up
    > say nothing
    > leave

  • @SilasMckeeIII
    @SilasMckeeIII 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    2:18:00 So Nexis beings have existed in marvel where they are the only one in the multi verse. Whats truly bad about the situation isnt that America was a nexis being, its the fact of how much it was emphasized in wandavision that WANDA was a nexis being..... and then spends the whole movie.... trying to get kids that "all other versions of her have" like all that nexis talk in wandavison was BS

  • @distinctthoughts4466
    @distinctthoughts4466 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love going back and watching these streams after the show they talk about is over. At the 1:47:00 mark you guys just spit balling ideas were right on the mark with the Kenobi show. It makes me sad, but also laugh. Love the content

  • @MrSociofobs
    @MrSociofobs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Trying to find something good to watch these days is like scooping for gold in a pile of shit.

    • @genmaicha.lapsang
      @genmaicha.lapsang 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It can be very tiring too. I have found good stuff mostly Korean and Japanese cinema.

    • @chasehedges6775
      @chasehedges6775 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed. It’s hard to find something good to watch

  • @bobcartwright7476
    @bobcartwright7476 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm 95% sure Wanda told Doctor Strange she killed White Vision off-screen, no big deal. Like, she said "I put a hole in the head of the only man I've ever loved, and felt nothing." Who else could she have meant?

    • @jeffmccool5690
      @jeffmccool5690 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      she said it meant nothing. meaning Thanos used the time stone to reverse it

  • @madgeek15
    @madgeek15 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I already listened to the whole thing using reverse osmosis

  • @rockinthegange
    @rockinthegange ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Jay predicted obi wan perfectly.

  • @drliamo9049
    @drliamo9049 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Wonder if it was a man that had the pleasure of shutting the door on this dumpster fire (batwoman)

  • @KT-up9nt
    @KT-up9nt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I took the glass in the shoes as self flagellation since he is talking about attonement the whole time - just like at the end he mentions hes ready to die.
    I agree with what you guys said- but that was my take away for that.. but i could be wrong- as you said they never said why..
    but religious self-flagellation is nutty as fuck

  • @mattshanley6755
    @mattshanley6755 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    "Get some, go broke."
    But they will never give up their wokeness, because it's their religion. Which is strange, since they don't believe in an afterlife

    • @MALICEM12
      @MALICEM12 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Who said religious beliefs had to incorporate an afterlife? They just tend to. That being said, it's a slave religion, and the masters arguably are trying to gain their immortality not through an afterlife, but there technology.

  • @Killallhippies401
    @Killallhippies401 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    These guys are so great together

  • @saimaidar9417
    @saimaidar9417 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    There are a lot of minor characters in Marvel that would make good standalone movies such As Sleepwalker & Darkhawk . You could do a Sub-Mariner solo movie or an Invaders movie, a Captain Britain or Union Jack movie. How about a Shamrock and Squirrel girl movie?