You’re welcome! I knew some other people probably had the same question, because it’s good to know what the gear can do without a rain fly since 💩 happens
A static test with a (fairly) new bag don't say that much about how it would work if you put it on with a typical weight and walk around for the same amount of time.
Thanks for commenting! I have to say though, yes it absolutely does because the point of water ingress is from the same direction and same rate. The only extra variable would be sweat, but that’s easily offset by the water from it being on the ground soaking into the foam of the back. Which you wouldn’t get walking The weight won’t affect the waterproofing unless you’re stuffing it to the point where seams and zippers are stretching, but that’s introducing its own test structure that isn’t waterproofing directly, but how well it handles stressed ingress points in the rain. As for the newness of the bag there’s nothing I can do there, but a test has to be run at some point and loads are on new bags in factories for quality control and those are completely valid 😄
The difference is that the fabric and seams move/stretch/contract slightly all the time when wearing it. Also, when wearing it you get pressure against your back. That's also why even packs made with completely waterproof materials like Dyneema rarely is advertised as waterproof. In use and over time they all leak somewhere. A rain cover helps but you still get water/rain against your back and possible from the sides in windy conditions.
@frstesiste7670 yes but that stretch and movement won’t affect the water resistance unless it’s pulling seams apart or pulling zippers, but that usually only happens with cheap hardware or over filling. That doesn’t affect the overall water resistance of the bag, neither will even pressure on your back. Bags don’t leak from pressure and weight (unless over filled) they leak from a lack of quality weather resistant hardware, poor seam sealing (if any), and user errors. They don’t advertise as waterproof because there are too many variables that they’d be liable for with customers if they did. Dyneema as a fabric is waterproof, but the construction of the bag changes that, but you’d find leaky points on poor craftsmanship with or without weight. But my point being this is a decent test for people to at least have a baseline understanding of this particular line’s fabric and construction capabilities in the rain. With that baseline people can move forward with an idea on their needs/uses for it, so it does tell them a lot even if it isn’t everything
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Thank you for this video
You’re welcome! I knew some other people probably had the same question, because it’s good to know what the gear can do without a rain fly since 💩 happens
Great test! Thanks for the content there mate
Thanks I appreciate it
@ No worries mate! I have received mine just now and plan to use it as my travel backpack
Such a good test!
Thanks!
A static test with a (fairly) new bag don't say that much about how it would work if you put it on with a typical weight and walk around for the same amount of time.
Thanks for commenting!
I have to say though, yes it absolutely does because the point of water ingress is from the same direction and same rate. The only extra variable would be sweat, but that’s easily offset by the water from it being on the ground soaking into the foam of the back. Which you wouldn’t get walking
The weight won’t affect the waterproofing unless you’re stuffing it to the point where seams and zippers are stretching, but that’s introducing its own test structure that isn’t waterproofing directly, but how well it handles stressed ingress points in the rain.
As for the newness of the bag there’s nothing I can do there, but a test has to be run at some point and loads are on new bags in factories for quality control and those are completely valid 😄
The difference is that the fabric and seams move/stretch/contract slightly all the time when wearing it. Also, when wearing it you get pressure against your back.
That's also why even packs made with completely waterproof materials like Dyneema rarely is advertised as waterproof. In use and over time they all leak somewhere.
A rain cover helps but you still get water/rain against your back and possible from the sides in windy conditions.
@frstesiste7670 yes but that stretch and movement won’t affect the water resistance unless it’s pulling seams apart or pulling zippers, but that usually only happens with cheap hardware or over filling. That doesn’t affect the overall water resistance of the bag, neither will even pressure on your back. Bags don’t leak from pressure and weight (unless over filled) they leak from a lack of quality weather resistant hardware, poor seam sealing (if any), and user errors.
They don’t advertise as waterproof because there are too many variables that they’d be liable for with customers if they did. Dyneema as a fabric is waterproof, but the construction of the bag changes that, but you’d find leaky points on poor craftsmanship with or without weight.
But my point being this is a decent test for people to at least have a baseline understanding of this particular line’s fabric and construction capabilities in the rain. With that baseline people can move forward with an idea on their needs/uses for it, so it does tell them a lot even if it isn’t everything