What Happens When We Die? Surviving Cardiac Arrest
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 ส.ค. 2022
- A recording of the 2019 New York Academy of Sciences Symposium, where we address emerging research in the studies of resuscitation and consciousness all centered around the question, "What happens when we die?"
Thank you to everyone who attended. And, a special thank you to our remarkable speakers:
- Dr. Melanie Brickman Borchard, director of Life Sciences at the New York Academy of Sciences
- Dr. Sam Parnia, associate professor of medicine and director of Critical Care and Resuscitation Research at NYU Langone Health, researching the improvement of resuscitation methods to better understand what happens to the brain and consciousness after cardiac arrest
- Dr. Tom Aufderheide, professor of Emergency Medicine at the Medical College of Wisconsin and internationally recognized researcher in emergency cardiac care
- Dr. Sonja Lyubomirsky, professor in the Department of Psychology at the University of California and distinguished happiness research psychologist
- Dr. Stephan Mayer, Director of Neurocritical Care and Emergency Neurology Services at Westchester Medical Center and Professor of Neurology and Neurosurgery at New York Medical College
- Dr. Sarah Perman, leader in resuscitation science and post-cardiac arrest care
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Dr. Tom Aufderheide's experience with the patient that had an NDE under his care is remarkable. I also appreciate the confidence with which he speaks when addressing the authenticity of the patient's experience. To the team of researchers and administrators, thank you for continuing to post videos on your TH-cam page and for keeping the public updated as best as possible. 🙏🙏
So I am writing a essay on this topic due to my personal experience of this happening when I had cardic arrest post heart transplant surgery.. what he claims happens is very real. I was looking down at my body and described how my chest incision, which was my second one due to back to back surgeries was over to the left more so than right down the middle of my chest prior to my heart transplant surgery. This work is amazing and deserves more resources and funding for study
That is very interesting ! I would love to hear any more details you can provide about your out of body experience, if you would be so kind. Anything at all you can relate would be most welcome thank you !
@@tim59ism so I was 28 years old 4 years ago now and had a successful heart transplant, it is post-surgery, day 2 and I am scheduled for my first walk. I get up out of bed, stand while they get a chair to roll behind me for when I can't continue walking and by the time I made it to the hall way I had a cardiac aresst. Heart stopped, oxygen cut off from my brain. Next thing I recall is gazing down upon myself in a third person point of view from above. I was not panicked or afraid, I noted how unclean I appeared and in particular took note of the position of my chest Incesion. From my precious heart surgery (LVAD) TRANSPLANT, I had known my incision to be directly down the middle of my chest. I noticed how my incision was slightly off centered to the left and I thought to myself "that's not right, it should be in the center of my chest" ..... no one else was in the room at this time.... I am guessing, that I was alone due to them gathering help to peform resuscitation on me .... I can not recall exactly how I ended up in the next destination I am about to describe, it seems as if this moment in time was lost to me but I next found myself in a place of white warm light and looking down the passage there were a set of double doors.... I started to make my way toward the doors, not really knowing why, it seems as if a presence I was only slightly aware of was guiding me toward the double doors... when I reached them, they opened.... I can only describe what happend next one way... as the doors opened I experienced the most powerful energy force in my existence of 32 years,... it was as if my perception spun clock wise at the speed of light and as this happend the force of the energy sucked me through the doors and as the force of the doors opening was starting to take effect I recall freaking out in my mind... quote.. "no no no no nooooo"...... then bammmmm!!!! In an instant my essence or (soul) was thrown back into my body.... this is the moment that bothers me the most.. I was fighting for my life gasping for air fast as my body would allow .. there was a woman holding my head saying "calm your breathing down honey, you can do it"..... I could not respond at all, I was stuck in a dying body... this part was so awful that I remember thinking "Is this hell??". It was so disturbing that I literally thought I might be experiencing a form of hell..... My thoughts started running and I thought "well this is it man, you are dying now".. my wife and kids crossed my mind and I started praying to the one and only for help.... God.... the only source of hope I could think of... I am not ashamed to say I begged for forgiveness and for life.... as I lay fighting for my life, I heared my wife's voice and she grasp my hand and tries to sooth me with loving words....the doctors scream paralyze him to calm his breathing and a feeling that can be explained as luck warm water being poured over you,... started at my feet and was working its way up my body, as the feeling made its way to my neck and eventually my whole head, I was praying to God frantically for mercy and as the feeling of the paralyzing agent consumed my head I lost consciousness...... they performed cpr on me for 15 minutes . No heart beat or brain function in that time ... I awoke two and half days later out of a coma on a ventilator(forgot to mention the part during cpr when they shoved a ventilator down my throat after they got me to successfully cough)... the first thing I did when awaking was ask for paper and pen, I could not at time due to ventilator down my throat and I wrote out what had happened to me... I was shaken from the experience and wanted nothing more than to share it with my loved ones.... my wife says the doctors could not say when or if I would ever wake up from the coma and they could not explain the cardiac arrest I experienced and that I should not remember a thing about anything that happend because my wife was worried I would be traumatized.... which I was... and still am shaken to this day about it. Death is constantly on my mind now, I am always thinking about the next time it will happen. There ya go... my story.
@@Stardog081 Thanks very much for that ! I'm sorry to hear about the trauma you had to go through, that must have been terrrible, but what you are reporting there is basically along the lines of a classic NDE. You had the out of body experience after cardiac arrest and then the journey (to the light?) often reported. I don't know what you make of it but in my opinion it's obvious you were simply going over to the "next world" (whatever that is). When you were looking down at yourself (at your physical body with the incision) did you take any notice of what form you were in ? Did you have another form ? A "body" of some description or were you just pure consciousness ? I'm assuming during the second cardiac arrest, you didn't have the same experience. Anyway, it's fascinating !
@@Stardog081 death is constantly on my mind too ... I have not had an NDE but I saw my brother after he died... the literature calls this a grief hallucination but I was aware that I shouldn't be seeing what I was seeing during the entire encounter... it's been 11 years now ... I was not trying to see him I was just sitting on the couch and there he was...the thing about NDE is you guys have all come back and glial cells and probably others are still living ... the thing about after death sightings is even though one sees it with their own eyes one questions their own sanity ... I'm 98.9 % sure it was him not a hallucination but I was grieving and I don't want to trick myself ... my daughter died Sunday 10/1/23 and this time I have been trying to see her but haven't yet...I hope you're doing well now ..
This video presentation itself is an amazing pink unicorn to anyone who watches it.
This is absolutely fascinating !
Great talk! Thank you👍
If everything is mental, the mind doesn't go anywhere. You only have these options:
1. Physicalist monism
2. Dualism
3. Idealistic monism
1 and 2 have problems so you are only left with 3 which is the most parsimonious one and the one with least problems. I am only telling you here that I find idealism more compelling than materialism.
So, if you ask me, my opinion is that once we shuffle off our mortal coil, we wake up from the 'dream' of life. Presumably, you will no longer identify with your anthropic form just like you no longer identify with your dream body, identity and events when you wake up to realise it was all an illusion. Unfortunately, I cannot tell you what happens as certainty will only come when we experience death directly. Because intrinsically we are a pristine awareness, it could be that our minds are wiped clean to become a tabula rasa (emptier than a baby's mind) becoming awareness of awareness (metacognition) but with a potential to perceive an infinitude of forms. This is speculative, of course. Perhaps we become omniscient as we transcend time and space (forget how crazy this may sound because what we know now would sound crazy to someone in the Middle Ages).
The only thing I can infer from everything I have gathered is that experience is perennially continuous because consciousness, as the irreducible ground of existence, cannot be destroyed. Now, I've had a few experiences myself with psychedelics but the people who may provide us with more insight about what's to come (and it may be different for all of us) are those who have had NDEs due to the extreme physical trauma they endured and the fact that medical science can now bring back people well past the former threshold or 'point of no return'. Of course, I don't recommend suicide just to find out directly because, in time, we will eventually know and focus should be placed in this life, in the here and now.
Great conversation but the audio is a problem. There's no point in putting mics on everyone (which it looks like you have) if those mic signals are not being sent to a mixing board. Please talk to someone your video production team. Having said that, this was a great conversation. Your work and the work of Dr. Pim van Lommel as well as Bruce Greyson, MD and the staff at UVA DOPS is bringing this important conversation to mainstream where it belongs. Thank you, Dr. Parnia.
52:06 Brilliant!
Imagine the horror when you have full conciesness and look at your own resuscitation from above, and then you realize the doctor has just decided you'd be a perfect donor and start extirping your organs 😱
The health insurance companies are not going to be happy about these enhanced resuscitations with their extended hospital stays. Expect pushback.
Amazing that this topic is not drawing more interest.
they already said why. its about money. more people alive, less organs to harvest, less money from sales
It IS drawing more and more attention! IANDS - International Association for Near Death Studies, Bruce Greyson, IONS - Institute Of Noetic Studies, Dean Radin. Then there's the PEAR Lab, Princeton Engineering Anomalies Research Lab, Robert Jahn, Roger Nelson - Global Consciousness Project... Donald Hoffman, Tom Campbell, Bernardo Kastrup...
Consciousness is just a series of atoms and electrons which essentially gives us our mind and the soul is just a certain pattern of arrangement of atoms and electrons interacting with each other via the 4 fundamental forces of nature which essentially gives us our spirit. When a person dies these atoms and electrons get rearranged and that person ceases to exist. Near death experiences and out of body experiences are certainly hallucinations caused by dying brain cells firing randomly and going haywire as they start to die. It takes many hours, if not days for every brain cell to completely die, for every neuron to stop firing and for all electrical activity deep inside the brain to completely stop. Quantum Field Theory says that there is one field for every type of particle. There are no spirit particles or spirit forces that can interact with the atoms and the known forces in your brain and body because we would of already detected them in existing experiments. Any new type of particle or force that we have not yet detected would be either 1) Be too heavy to create, 2) Be to short lived to detect 3) Be weakly interacting or 4) Interact over too short ranges. In any case the new type of particle or force would not be relevant to what the atoms and the known forces are doing in your brain and body. The reason we are self aware, but not a rock or a table is particles have to interact and move around in certain patterns and certain configurations. Some near death experiences and out of body experiences contradict each other. They can not all be right but they can all be wrong. It is not the particles that matter but the patterns in which that are arranged. Consciousness and the soul is not an energy or substance like water or air but a process like fire, when you put out the flame on a candle, the flame does not go anywhere, the reaction stops and that is what happens when we die. The flame is a chemical reaction with the particles that it is made up of. There is no way for the information that is you to persist after you die and there is no way for the information stored in your brain to persist after you die. Your spirit or consciousness is not conserved in any way, the electrical energy in your brain simply ceases to be and will change form to a more disordered form of energy namely heat. This heat is not your spirit or consciousness, it is just the most disordered form of energy, thus all energy will eventually be converted to heat energy.
Omg you can even regulate ypthe tone
Hey guys, consult your IT dept next time about proper audio recording, i would love to watch this but just cant due to the mono right ear only garbage quality audio. Thanks anyway.
Yes but that woman had a heart transplant. I asked them to do that for my partner and the answer I got was that he wasn't a candidate and when I asked why not they said it was because he was too weak and too old and the heart would always go to a younger person. He was 61 years old. Pre-pension age.
I know what happens