Front Axle Evaluation - 1948 8n Tractor
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ธ.ค. 2014
- The front axle is very worn out.. no surprises here... can't expect it to be perfect for what I paid for it. This should be a fun repair. Thanks for Watching Kids! Appreciate you stopping by.
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That's a pretty special tractor you have there sir
Rob Orchard It is really growing on me. Thanks Rob!
Great vid for the front wheels, which many “look before you buy” vids completely missed. Amateurs. I’m in the market cor an 8N. Thanks so much! :)
Glad it was helpful! Fortunately there are plenty of reproduction 8n parts still available. Any 8n with a loader on it should be suspect for a worn out front end... while extremely useful, they put a LOT of stress on the front axle and steering components. Good luck on your tractor hunt.
Cool video showng how to check the front end bearings ... thanks for sharing
Cocoa Cabana Youre welcome. Thanks for watching!
“That one may have a little play in it...” 😂
hahaha... yeah, just a little.
Considering the tractor is 66 years old that is just normal wear from lack of grease. Every joint on that tractor is serviceable and I have rebuilt many N series tractor front ends that were way worse than what you have and those N series tractors never had a front end loader attached. The worst repair is the pivot pin in the axle but it is not bad either. All of the bearings can be sourced cross referenced in your local area or order them online.
SlowRollin TexasStyle Thanks for the info... I have ordered all the parts to get that front axle back in shape. I will be back home im a week and will get working on it.. vids to follow!
Good thing it's a popular tractor. All the parts you need are available new...
***** Yep... everything I needed was just a click away...
at least your tractor runs....mine is shiney and purdy but its inoperable right now
dzlfreek That's right...there's on in your garage...Time for you to get a crackin! hahaha
i got crackalackin
Engine sounds sweet
It sure does. Thanks Charles.
Thanks for sharing, have yourself a great week, Merry Christmas or or a happy whatever you do and Happy New Year.
geargriden19 Thank you! Appreciate the kind words. Hope you're having a great week as well.
Looks to me like you are going to be pretty busy after the holidays.
Have a merry Christmas and a happy new year.
Thanks for sharing
Roy
Roy Wrenn Thank you Roy! Appreciate the kind words! I will be back home next week and will be hitting the ground running! Merry Chirstmas! and Happy New Year!!!
Merry Christmas! My Wheel Horse has those SW gauges, I like them a lot. Much nicer than newer style gauges. Have an old cool factor.
Craig Arndt Hey Craig..Thanks for stoppin in! Merry Christmas!
It will be better than new when its done .Looking foward to see how tht frt end comes apart . Merry Christmas and Happy New Year !!!
krazy45cat Thanks Gerry... Happy New Year... Now I'm heading back up the mountain... will be home next week with some new vids.
yourbeekeeper Enjoy the Ranch ,Happy New Year !!!
good info tnx!
Serious play in those steering knuckles & everything else....time to turn more bushings...
Kohala Iron Works Case Hey Chief! Definately will put that lathe to work on this repair. ALOHA!
Happy New Year Steve!! No doubt you will be able to fix up the front end better than new. I'm looking forward to the videos. The replacement SW ammeter with matching lettering will look good with the oil pressure gauge.
AVTreasures Thanks for stoppin in Ray, I will be home tomorrow and will get a video uploaded tomorrow night. That gauge is way better looking.
lol...im not as old as that tractor and my joints are about in the same shape..once the new bearings and seals are in it will drive like a caddy..good vid
burdman1954 Thanks for stoppin in Burdman!
The front end repairs will save this tractor .
wtbm123 Sure will... parts are already on the way.
Yep you got a little slop there but it's a 60 some year old tractor with a loader on it. Just shows you what a lack of maintenance will do over time. A few bushing, new wheel bearings, and maybe a few tie for ends and it will be good as new, nothing that can't be fixed over the weekend when you get all the parts.
***** I agree completely... fortunately all the parts were in stock and the are already on their way to my house. I will be tearing this apart sometime next week...stay tuned.
Will do
Hey your beekeeper nice ford 8n tractor my old fordson e27n petrol kero tractor is just one year younger mines a 1949 Australian model can't wait to see ya finish this tractor and use it all the best for the holiday season hope ya Christmas was good and a happy new year mate I have got an absolute carp load of videos to come so stay tuned and good luck with ya tractor I will be in touch mate victa826 out
victa826 Hey Victa!!! Great to hear from you!!! Somehow I became unsubbed from your channel.... I just subbed you and look forward to your vids!!!! Happy New Year!
thanks matey I hope you had a good Christmas and a great new year matey see ya soon thanks again
Oh boy we get to see some more lathe action. Maybe?
scottsinfl Hell Yeah you will!
I have changed the Busing and Bearing in Front Spindles / Knuckes. One came appart easy , the other was H#ll on earth to get appart,
MERRY CHRISTMAS STEVE! 😊
UnitCrane514 Thank you Sir! Hope Y'all had a GREAT Christmas!
That just goes to clearly demonstrate what a front end loader does to the front axle together with an almost total lack of grease.
At least it doesn't look as though someone has welded the king pins and spindles! I would be surprised if the steering box doesn't need some servicing as well. Get some penetrating fluid on those adjustable axle bolts in the mean time.
What r we doing
Dan Whiteford Hey Dan, I will be back home in a week with some Ranch Vids and will get the chance to tear into it.. Parts are already on the way. Fortunately nothing was welded where it didn't need to be welded.
I miss this one
WOW thats alot just makes you pay more attention thats all LOL
2LateIWon sure explains why it got the death wobbles at any speed above 6mph...lol.
Forget the steering wheel.. That thing has more play in the front end than a blind horse. Maybe a set of reins are in order.
777strongcoffee hahaha... now that would be a sight.
What did you ever do to that cub demonstrator I'm dying to know you should make a video on it keep us updated on it
Cub Cadet That tractor is out of the weather...patiently waiting for me to restore it. It will happen, I just have a few other projects I need to get done before I can devote the time to break this one down an do it right. The take up a LOT less space when they are complete versus in 1000 pieces. I have some current footage of it..taken a few days ago. It will be included in a video in the next few days.
Wow that tractor is completely worn out.
Yes, it sure was.
where can I find a left axle extension for an 8n
Steinertractor.com has a LOT of 8n parts.
shims ,bushings and king pins
oh bearings
Jim Rowlings Yep, Yep, Yep and Yep. lol. Thanks Jim!
you can hear a dog barking in the distance at 5m 21 when your banging at something with a hammer(when the screen goes black) merry xmas and a happy new year to you and your family and newman of course from the the cyclist and daisy the border collie in cupar fife scotland(im 9 miles from st andrews the home of golf)
TheThecyclist Hey Cyclist! Thank you for the kind words!!!! Appreciate that!!! I'm not too sure what happened at the end of the video... I uploaded it and left town... It will be another week before I get home and can see where the error occured. Hope you had a Great Christmas... Happy New Year!!!!!
How it started when you turned the crank is... Interesting
Kevin Isam Completely caught me off guard... it just fired off so easily I'm amazed.
tinker bell just broken in lol
73 SUPERGLIDE hahaha... I could get another 10 years out of it...easily...lol.
U 30 YEAR LOTS LOVE LOL
You are not missing a tooth on your flywheel are you?
KydexByParlusk I have not pulled the starter and looked... when I move the crank I hear/feel the starter gear disengage from the flywheel.. I will be back home in a week and can't wait dig back into this machine.
I made a mistake with the first 8N I ever bought. I put it in 4th gear and headed down the highway. The front end started shaking and nearly threw me off.
+hlyautey hahaha... that sounds exactly like my experience... unfortunately my 4-th gear experience was on a street with cars parked on both sides... so while I was trying to hold onto this bucking bronco I was also concerned about bashing neighbors cars... hahaha.. fortunately things got under control without any bent sheetmetal. Thanks for watching.
+yourbeekeeper In my case the steering box bearings were destroyed. In your case I hope it is ONLY the bearings.
My issue was very worn spindle bushings, bearings and center pin/bushing. I have a video when I replaced the front axle parts. All is good now...fortunately I didn't have to get into the steering box.
+hlyautey my husband did the same thing just a few months ago... we knew the steering was a bit sloppy when we bought the tractor since the steering wheel could be turned from the 7 o'clock to the 12 o'clock position before the wheels would start turning. After we got it home, he wanted to show the neighbors our new tractor and so drove it down the road in 3rd gear. Even in just 3rd gear the front wheels started going into a seizure and nearly self-destructed. Was just glad to see that he was able to get the tractor slowed down quickly and back to the house. So now after we got a few other jobs done it, we're going to be looking into the problem here in the next couple weeks. Sure hope that it's not in the gear box...replacement parts are ridiculously expensive for it!
The front axle is a little loose looks like it needs wheel bearings, new king pin bushings, new center pivot bushings. I guess you can expect it being the tractor is 66 years old really surprised it starts so easy with no smoke was the engine rebuilt at one time. The engine doesn't match the same wear as the rest of the tractor.
Graveltrucking I got no info from the P.O. that the engine was rebuilt... but every indication is it has.
Outside of the brske installation, there's a pin under the front axle centerpoint that needs to be replaced every now and then. It is positioned front to back, not side to side. When it wears out, thefan on the waterpump drops a little, then it starts to rub on the radiator shroud, then eventually rubs on the radiator. That pin needs to be replaced, and I have no clue how to do this. An old man told me it's in the I and T manual but have hopes someone knows what I'm talking about because I don't.
Folks, It seems YBK is removing play from the major parts first. Then he will get to the wheel bearing and err... Brakes? May need to install a few Zerks as well. The only grease this poor dear saw was the Movie. He may be able to drive it up to the ranch, when he is done. It might even become street legal. With modern lubes, it will be in tractor heaven.
Jeffrey Plum Brakes?!?!?! Brakes?!?!?!?! hahahah... brakes are for quitters! hahahahaha
Have you told your daughter she will be packing front bearings to earn her seat time?
I knew the center Pivot bushing was going to be bad, but didn't expect it to be as bad as it showe on the video, never seen one worn that badly before. Make sure you check the front axle hole where the bushing goes into, I am afraid it is going to be worn out of round. That particuar bushing is a common problem with tractors that has that type of pivoting axle. You also have a wheel bearing problem, the Left wheel beainbg nut is eiher loose or never properly tightened by whoever had it apart before you aquired the tractor also you may want to check the ajusting screw for the Worm and Sector gears ( and one each side) of steerng box and also ALL tie rod ends for excessive play. Replace King Pinsand Bushings o each side. Check the bushing on steering box where shaft exits going to drag link to steering arms on front wheels to see if there is play there too, may have to replace the bushings for those too if all play is to be removed from steering wheel which will prevent the shimmying when traveling down the road at speeds more than 20 mph, The Steering box uses EP 80 or EP 90 oil.Once all those are inspected an or replaced the tractor will steer as good as new.Also want to add that on someof the new pivot pins and bushings the grease fitting will be o the pin itself instead of in a recess on the under side of axle at pivot point.
Nortekj Great information.. Thank you! Appreciate the help!
had to come back an hour later Internet cut off - T=up
FixinThatUp Welcome back! lol.
You got lucky buddy, looks like the previous owner really took care of her...rolls eyes. Just no way they would have been able to detect that small amount of front end play. Dickerd.
***** hahaha... dickered indeed!
Don't be a stranger now 🚜
Rob Orchard I will have a vid up tomorrow night, when I get home. Thanks for your patience.
Just pump thick grease into those gaps and it will be fine. :(
PontiacDart Now there's an idea... lol.
Look up FUBAR in the dictionary and find a picture of the front end of this very tractor!
dzlfreek I don't think there is any part of it that's not completely worn out. lol.
well, be sure if it said John Deere in it it would cost 4x as much to repair......so theres that
All worn out. Those front end loaders are hard on those non industrial farm tractors spindle front axles. We’re t built for heavy loader work.
I agree completely. This tractor spent its life in a small family nursery and only moved potting soil and look how worn out everything is. Thanks for watching Texas, I appreciate it.
You can probably weld the play out of it!
Joe K. haha... you're probably right...lol.
please come fix mine
What happen out there fall asleep fell off your tractor working 24/7
donald laisure sleeping......zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
You sure do like to buy work Beekeep, no wonder you haven't uploaded any vids recently, too busy working on the ole scoop
Rob Orchard Been up at The Ranch for the last two weeks... coming home tomorrow and have plenty to get Y'all caught up with.
Loaders destroy front ends, guess this proves it, never buy a tractor that was used for this purpose.
Depends what you want your tractor for. I needed one with a loader.