Good to see Betaine is actually getting some light shone on it now. I wrote my dissertation on it in 2017 but research was limited and my participants were too few to give any statistical significance despite promising results. Great to see you promoting it Layne!
I've followed Layne for a bit now and I really appreciate how methodical he approaches questions and problems. I'm going to give recovery and pre-workout a shot and compare against some more expensive brands.
Hard thing about this product, especially having creatine in it, is you need to have it every day really. Which means its going to run out pretty quick and at only 20 serves a container you're running out real quick. Or alternatively people will have it as a 'post' workout but then require a seperate creatine source on days off training and, as Layne says, these other ingredients seem to require continual doseage. So basically, I think there'll need to be a larger size that comes at a cheaper price as a result to make this worth it long term
I honestly haven’t purchased a pre-workout or a recovery product in years, I think your old line, carbon, was in fact the last ones I’ve felt was worth spending money on. But I just ordered your pre and recover. Been following you for almost a decade now, I always like to support you and you’re one of the few I trust. Also, since I live in tampa too can you please hand deliver them to me so I don’t have to pay the shipping cost, I’m Jewish, and as you know, us jews value saving money at all costs, plus it’s Hanukah so it’s perfect timing. Thanks!
I've stayed away from workout supplements for a over a decade, but have been interested in giving something new a try that isn't full of garbage. I'm willing to try both your pre-workout and recovery as soon as they go on sale again.
Please keep up that scientific integrity Layne! Finally somebody selling supplements for what they're actually for. Whereas every other company it feels like they're trying to sell you some underdosed pixie dust with ridiculous marketing.
On a slightly related topic, about creatine... This has been mentioned before by biolayne, that some people have GI issues with creatine. I was one of those people. I've tried basic creatine-monohydrate from 2 popular brands, and I just had this feeling of low-grade nausea. And it was CONSTANT... nearly the entire day. I felt this way for about a month, taking between the recommend 2-5 grams per day(I believe was the dosage?). About 3 days after I went off of it, the nausea went away. I have found this other stuff that supposedly has a different PH balance, and it doesn't give me nausea. I cannot really speak to the efficacy of it, and who knows, it might be bs... but the nausea is gone. Again, most people dont seem to have this problem, but mentioning in the case that someone else may have this issue.
Great video as always, I wish more people find your TH-cam channel/ Instagram, and stop listening to all fitness influencers wich spread bullshit , just because they look good . Always sharing your videos with my people. Keep up the good work. Best nutrition channel, no doubt.
I have been fermenting mimosa leaves with honeysuckle and after some research last year I think the chlorophyll, nitrogenous compounds, fats and lipids, and plant protein all ferment into simpler amines and proteins and esters... which seem to not only keep me "full" longer from the protein, but they also seem to help build muscle mass very quickly, as it's a readily available source of nutrients, I make it very potent.... so it's like a protein soup that drinks like a skunky beer, with some adaptogen properties also. I've been doing this specifically for like a year but I've worked with mimosa since I created this TH-cam account. I'd like to see more research into the medicinal, nutrient, and supplement values of legume trees prepared along similar lines, I think they all are good for this, but there may be specific nuances from tree to tree, which means that would be a good agricultural project to invest in at an industry scale.
I would like to let you know that Alpino peanut butter is my post-workout secret weapon! It's loaded with protein, fiber, and healthy fats to keep me satisfied for hours. Plus, it's pure peanut goodness without any guilt. The best way to fuel up and crush those fitness goals!
The oral LCLT isn't worth the risk associated with the TMAO conversion in the gut. It makes way more sense and is way more efficacious to just inject 500mg non-estered l-carnitine ED instead of taking oral LCLT.
That a lot of TMG! Some people are sensitive to methyl groups (CH3). You should consider adding the amino acid Glycine. Glycine is a methyl buffer. It attaches to free CH3 and also aids in recovery.
great info as always Layne thx. On a protein topic, is there a recent PROTEIN study on consuming raw (pasturized) vs cooked egg whites? So much easier to drink the egg whites but a study back in 1998 (which is all I could find) says you only get about 50% of the protein from raw vs 90% from cooked..??
completely unrelated lol but... what does the body do when someone eats carbs excessively to the point where the liver, muscles, etc. are simply full? I've watched a ton of your videos and realize only a small fraction of carbs go to adipose through de novo lipogenesis, but what ends up happening when they're in excess?
Hey Layne! Id love too see a video covering this topic! What if you chose instead of changing the diet, you too take away all "HITT" sessions and every form of cardio implemented for 2 weeks at a time, and allow the extra calories too go twords extra strength. While still letting your legs and CNS recover much better. This also provides extra time in the days throughout the week for whatever your life may throw at you Would love too see your thoughts on this- long time Fan Justin M!
Layne, I guess you don't reply here... But I was looking for a study where adding 5g leucine to casein protein might work as whey protein? Leucine will be more in blood and all the amino acids provided by casein.. Can it work or not.. I can't find any study.. Rate of digestion of whey is fast which raises leucine too.. But in my given above example.. I am adding 5g to casein in free form... Won't it work same?
Great video. Actually some mechanistic papers suggest that it increases bone density via mechanism of estrogen action. The ER alpha was increased with consumption of ashwagandha which resulted in increase in bone density and their power output.
I take L-glutamine because I am diabetic. Not sure about recovery from workouts, but maybe if there is no benefit to be had, then I'm okay with placebo.
Probably he incluided beta alanine on the pre workout because besides of being an accumulative ingredient it gives you a tingly sensation right away and it is nice to have that on a pre workout
Or you could just suck it up like a lot of people with limited incomes and not blow your money on creatine (even if it is cheap) and massages (which are not cheap).
Good to see Betaine is actually getting some light shone on it now. I wrote my dissertation on it in 2017 but research was limited and my participants were too few to give any statistical significance despite promising results. Great to see you promoting it Layne!
I've followed Layne for a bit now and I really appreciate how methodical he approaches questions and problems. I'm going to give recovery and pre-workout a shot and compare against some more expensive brands.
Hard thing about this product, especially having creatine in it, is you need to have it every day really. Which means its going to run out pretty quick and at only 20 serves a container you're running out real quick. Or alternatively people will have it as a 'post' workout but then require a seperate creatine source on days off training and, as Layne says, these other ingredients seem to require continual doseage. So basically, I think there'll need to be a larger size that comes at a cheaper price as a result to make this worth it long term
I honestly haven’t purchased a pre-workout or a recovery product in years, I think your old line, carbon, was in fact the last ones I’ve felt was worth spending money on. But I just ordered your pre and recover. Been following you for almost a decade now, I always like to support you and you’re one of the few I trust.
Also, since I live in tampa too can you please hand deliver them to me so I don’t have to pay the shipping cost, I’m Jewish, and as you know, us jews value saving money at all costs, plus it’s Hanukah so it’s perfect timing. Thanks!
Hahahahaha thank you
I've stayed away from workout supplements for a over a decade, but have been interested in giving something new a try that isn't full of garbage. I'm willing to try both your pre-workout and recovery as soon as they go on sale again.
I wish you’d do move videos like this. Breaking down supplements and clinical dosing is super value knowledge.
Ayyy we got the vid! Much love Layne
I would love to see the lightly sweetened version in the pre-workout, its all so good.
Please keep up that scientific integrity Layne! Finally somebody selling supplements for what they're actually for. Whereas every other company it feels like they're trying to sell you some underdosed pixie dust with ridiculous marketing.
I like the reasons behind splitting up some ingredients for specific purposes.
Dr Layne is the friggin man!!👏👌👍💪😎
What are your thoughts on glutamine? Does it help recovery?
I like the idea of calling it recovery and not post, for exactly the reason you gave.
On a slightly related topic, about creatine... This has been mentioned before by biolayne, that some people have GI issues with creatine.
I was one of those people. I've tried basic creatine-monohydrate from 2 popular brands, and I just had this feeling of low-grade nausea. And it was CONSTANT... nearly the entire day. I felt this way for about a month, taking between the recommend 2-5 grams per day(I believe was the dosage?).
About 3 days after I went off of it, the nausea went away.
I have found this other stuff that supposedly has a different PH balance, and it doesn't give me nausea. I cannot really speak to the efficacy of it, and who knows, it might be bs... but the nausea is gone.
Again, most people dont seem to have this problem, but mentioning in the case that someone else may have this issue.
What "other stuff" do you mean? I don't get the nausea but I get extremely bloated for days at a time when I take creatine.
@@Buddy330 It's called Kre-AlkalynEFX. I never had any bloating issues, so might not help you?
@@fopeezy3097 Thanks, I'll have to look in to it. I'm willing to try, and at worst I'm out a couple bucks and a few days of sweatpants.
Does anyone know if Layne has looked into glucosamine and chondroitin? Link please if so 🙏
Great video as always, I wish more people find your TH-cam channel/ Instagram, and stop listening to all fitness influencers wich spread bullshit , just because they look good .
Always sharing your videos with my people. Keep up the good work.
Best nutrition channel, no doubt.
Please don't ever give up that scientific integrity. It feels like you're one of the last ones left.
I have been fermenting mimosa leaves with honeysuckle and after some research last year I think the chlorophyll, nitrogenous compounds, fats and lipids, and plant protein all ferment into simpler amines and proteins and esters... which seem to not only keep me "full" longer from the protein, but they also seem to help build muscle mass very quickly, as it's a readily available source of nutrients, I make it very potent.... so it's like a protein soup that drinks like a skunky beer, with some adaptogen properties also.
I've been doing this specifically for like a year but I've worked with mimosa since I created this TH-cam account.
I'd like to see more research into the medicinal, nutrient, and supplement values of legume trees prepared along similar lines, I think they all are good for this, but there may be specific nuances from tree to tree, which means that would be a good agricultural project to invest in at an industry scale.
I would like to let you know that Alpino peanut butter is my post-workout secret weapon! It's loaded with protein, fiber, and healthy fats to keep me satisfied for hours. Plus, it's pure peanut goodness without any guilt. The best way to fuel up and crush those fitness goals!
The oral LCLT isn't worth the risk associated with the TMAO conversion in the gut.
It makes way more sense and is way more efficacious to just inject 500mg non-estered l-carnitine ED instead of taking oral LCLT.
I’m confused. Ashwaganda also has anti-inflammatory effects, which I thought was needed to maximize hypertrophy.
Not that simple. In some cases too much inflammation also impedes hypertrophy
That a lot of TMG! Some people are sensitive to methyl groups (CH3). You should consider adding the amino acid Glycine. Glycine is a methyl buffer. It attaches to free CH3 and also aids in recovery.
They may impair muscle growth by buffering ROS and getting rid of metabolites in muscle
Effective dosage is very important as well. I think you should mention that next time. :)
great info as always Layne thx. On a protein topic, is there a recent PROTEIN study on consuming raw (pasturized) vs cooked egg whites? So much easier to drink the egg whites but a study back in 1998 (which is all I could find) says you only get about 50% of the protein from raw vs 90% from cooked..??
Is it feasible to use a recovery supplement without a pre-workout? Or do they only work synergistically?
What do you think about MRI performance 🤔 NO 2 ?
completely unrelated lol but... what does the body do when someone eats carbs excessively to the point where the liver, muscles, etc. are simply full? I've watched a ton of your videos and realize only a small fraction of carbs go to adipose through de novo lipogenesis, but what ends up happening when they're in excess?
When we can buy them from Europe?
Does he say creatine weird or do I?
My only complaint is that it's too expensive for only 20 serving
Hey Layne! Id love too see a video covering this topic!
What if you chose instead of changing the diet, you too take away all "HITT" sessions and every form of cardio implemented for 2 weeks at a time, and allow the extra calories too go twords extra strength. While still letting your legs and CNS recover much better.
This also provides extra time in the days throughout the week for whatever your life may throw at you
Would love too see your thoughts on this- long time Fan Justin M!
Great info!
What about tart cherry
My main recovery product is sleep but it cost a lot of time ;)
You can't *outwork* bad sleep :)
why does the supplements website ask for virtual reality access?
are the bro science days of bb dying?
Layne, I guess you don't reply here...
But I was looking for a study where adding 5g leucine to casein protein might work as whey protein?
Leucine will be more in blood and all the amino acids provided by casein.. Can it work or not.. I can't find any study..
Rate of digestion of whey is fast which raises leucine too.. But in my given above example.. I am adding 5g to casein in free form... Won't it work same?
Any though5s on buying one case of creative hcl to load then do 5g of mono a day for those returning to the gym?
I would love to try your products but the gyms are closed and that doesn't give me motivation to work at home because I have home stuff to do
Great video.
Actually some mechanistic papers suggest that it increases bone density via mechanism of estrogen action. The ER alpha was increased with consumption of ashwagandha which resulted in increase in bone density and their power output.
What about pump supplements? I just found out about them this week.
Kree-ah-tin!
Should have a auto ship
Hey, what glasses are you wearing?
Think you meant to say workouts break down muscle n recovery builds it?
Already saw on IG but algorithm. ✔️
Is it me or has glutamine totally fallen off the map for recovery? Also, why has it fallen to the wayside?
I take L-glutamine because I am diabetic. Not sure about recovery from workouts, but maybe if there is no benefit to be had, then I'm okay with placebo.
The gummy bear just came in! Damn good shit!💪🏾.
Anabolics are the best recovery product bar none. lol.
No kidding
@ΠΑΝΑΓΙΩΤΗΣ Δ Παίζει να είσαι ο Παναγιώτης Ο Δεσποινούδης?
Why do I feel like Beta Alanine fits better in recovery than in pre workout?
Probably he incluided beta alanine on the pre workout because besides of being an accumulative ingredient it gives you a tingly sensation right away and it is nice to have that on a pre workout
Or you could just suck it up like a lot of people with limited incomes and not blow your money on creatine (even if it is cheap) and massages (which are not cheap).
Some of us need to recover in order to go to our jobs to get money. Vicious circle, I know.
Talk about massage guns
Save money and get a massage chair. It will change your life
Save you money and get a wife
@@ahmedhussain4665 far more expensive...
Recover fun made in china. Check it out. Its similar to all them hype bs theraguns out there.
Killer hairline, Layne!
Im reading the book of brad schoenfeld that has your foreword
What book is that? I've seen Brad in a few bits online, but I didn't know about this.
Very unique. I know it's not your style but you could have added glutamine for shits and giggles...
My lunk brane AAAAAAA so much info proper dosage gaaaaaa
i like that guy :)
Holy reverb. Please treat the room or atleast put some bookshelves up.
= cost effectiveness
Nice spin for producing an inferior product that you are still trying to sell.
But believe you, the seller of the snake oil
Recover with meat and sleep