Muay Thai is fucking crooked the and the gyms steal all the money from the guys and they have gangs threaten them to not leave. However the guys who do leave, are amazing. Rodtang is great. However when faced against Mighty Mouse. Demetrius Johnson fucked HIM UPPPP.
@@D33pgr333n lol no, the reason why you don't see good thai fighters is because the infrastructure of stadia MT in Thailand made MMA illegal, and there arent many gyms sending traditional fighters to fight mma. If you look at actual MT fighters who developed in the stadiums even the middling ones do very well. Most westerners who say they do MT do it very poorly and represent it poorly; super trad MT is very defensive and space maintenance focused as opposed to offensive
@@theimpaler98 I know I’ve been and trained in Thailand twice (4 months in total) I’ve watched super trad Muay Thai personally and much prefer it to one championship. But nothing you’ve said disproves my point of Muay Thai being too square and narrow to work in mma, Which is why it’s not seen.
Its because the best muay thai fighters stay in thailand, you can see it by the record, the same goes for japanese boxers. Kinda sad i would like to see them in MMA but they make decent money at least in Japan
Islam outstruck Dustin and also has the nastiest grappling in ufc currently. Aspinal is also impressive on the ground but he rarely needs it since hes 6'5 265 pounds. Its amazing how fast mma is evolving.
@@Originalchiliit’s also a matter of culture. Dagestan and even countries like Ukraine have entire systems to encourage kids to get into MMA and boxing, regardless of wealth. Just look at soccer or basketball here in the U.S. and see how little support we give, unless parents fork up the dough
I was literally just thinking this when someone posted the original Xbox dashboard UI, and said: "No one can design this anymore, the know how has been lost", which is totally true, an average "UI/UX" designer depends entirely on the technology that they use and wouldn't be able to recreate it, but someone that just knows about shapes, colors, composition, and some math could be able to pull it off. In my brain I'd recreate it with gpu gfx shaders.
Software is a tool, just like a pencil and a piece of paper are tools, you still need a good understanding of design fundamentals to create anything even remotely interesting with it. The whole 'modern art is bad and soulless' argument is just a boomer cope. Trends evolve, people constantly experiment with new things, everything comes and goes in cycles,. I’d even argue that mastering software makes the learning curve even steeper for modern graphic designers and artists. Sam’s just getting old and jaded, his whole opinion boils down to: new thing bad, me don't like
@@buratino-i7vSams arguement is that when a tool is more difficult and time consuming to use, the designer has to think a lot more about what they are doing.
@@buratino-i7v yeah but how would a web designer create the xbox dashboard? You'd have to be a hell of a CSS wizard to do it, so I'd say it's possible with common technology, but it'd be extremely hard. And sure a designer that is truly good, will be a good designer on the computer, on paper and whatever is available. I was just focusing on the reliance on technology side of Sam's argument, but I do agree that limitations can be conducive to creativity.
Gaethje vs Ferguson is a fantastic but brutal mma fight to watch. It took place during covid, so there's no audience. Just the announcers. You hear almost every punch. Even though both fighters are lightweights, the punches make me cringe just listening to it. I highly recommend to anyone who hasn't seen it. The whole fight is uploaded on ufc's Eurasia channel with English commentary.
It's even more unreal in person at a boxing gym, big guy with shaved eyebrows at my gym was throwing hooks to the body on a heavy bag and i was on the other side of the gym and it still sounded so loud i thought it was gunshots.
8:00 He gets down on himself but Sam is really entertaining when he talks about philosophy and stuff like that. Very insightful guy honestly. I don't always agree but I always know I'm gonna hear a unique thought from Sam.
I feel like the logic is backwards. MMA allows you to actually use creativity to your advantage. Boxers can have slightly different styles, but they are all going to fight basically like boxing. MMA fighters have wildly varying styles, even if they are both strikers or both grapplers, some may like to have a wide karate stance with hands low, while another stays square and boxes. A grappler may be a GSP shoot a blast double leg and ground and pound type, or a Ryan hall imanari roll for your leg and crank your heel till your knee pops. MMA is the only sport where being different for the sake of being different can actually be an advantage. Nobody is winning NBA games by inventing a brand new way to dribble or shoot, no football player is reinventing how to throw a ball, but in MMA guys show up who have unorthodox strange style that do not conform to any traditional martial art, and win because the uniqueness makes them difficult to read and counter. If any physical sporting event can be called an art form, It is MMA The "restriction that breeds creativity" in MMA is the fact the guy standing across from you is a world class athlete who is trying to badly hurt you and if you don't execute your skills correctly you will sustain potentially life changing damage. I promise you, you get in the ring with a real good fighter, you have no choice but to get creative, or lose
I would say for the restriction breeding creativity with certain styles. Such as restricting yourself to boxing you tweak your striking way more because your arsenal is minimal and you force yourself to get way better not relying on other things likes grappling,elbows and kicks. It helps improving a skill, but as the saying goes. A jack of all trades is a master of none, but oftentimes better than a master of one.
its like when the teacher is doing creativity drills with the class and makes you draw an image from a random squiggle. working from what is available not through pure imagination
you cant run world of warcraft on an amiga but you can run Frontier Elite II, and anyone who knows anything about that game knows just how much divine work went into simulating a galaxy sandbox 3d newtonian spaceship and trading game on 1 floppy drive the Amigas hardware limitations caused game engineers to really think about what they were doing and put that “measure twice, you can only cut once” mentality to work you dont get that with modern gaming. there is no longer limitation. so all you get now is graphical cutscenes and movie quality graphics and oh boy guys we gotta care about the graphics! new graphics card releases every year! we gotta show off what it can do, guys! “Pretty art direction” Just means “Gimme your VRAM” now
real, this is part of why gaming peaked during the 2000s. Eighth generation got hit with the double whamey of Microsoft and Sony moving to intel processors and women entering the gaming industry en masse
@@mh3225 You could argue that. It does look kinda stupid tho. And there is so much more limitation (to my understanding) that it begs the question, at what point do constraints hamper creativity to the point it's no longer an art form?
@@DavidKFZyou just justified how mma is more of an art form. The human body itself is art and the fact that over generations humans have evolved a form of combat that utilizes all aspects of the human form- that’s art
Sam, your rants about stuff like this are golden. No need to apologize. There is a philosophical concept "Being bound for freedom" that has a triumvirate meaning in relation to the myth of Prometheus. I think you articulated this concept very beautifully in this video.
Also, regarding brick fighting - Nigerians have a sport where they tape up one fist into a literal rock and just bludgeon each other to death in absolutely brutal fashion.
The Muay Thai guys are crazy good at striking. Their problem is that their stance doesn't translate to MMA well because a corn-fed D1 wrestler from the Midwest would just take them down immediately.
4:58 This reminds me of how lanky tall guys have good powerful hooks like Alex Periera. I equate it to a mace. Only a 5lb ball of steel but its at the end of a stick and now that stick is at the end of your arm so you have all this torque for power generation. I dont actually know how it works though if anyone knows pls lmk. Interesting how a skinny long arm can generate as much or more power than a stockier buff arm.
307 ending and khalils movie "Lord of the streets" that he starred in and how he delievered the final blows to the main villain in that is creepy. consensual ritual.
The sport of mma is based off of the ability to execute, its entertaining when both people are doing that the whole time, which is why walking around looking at each other is boring
High level boxing is boring since it's literally just two guys afraid of losing their spotless record so they look at each other and throw a weak jab every 70 seconds.
I get the creativity thing but also there are restrictions in mma. The art comes from solving the puzzle of what your opponent is capable of and what tools you need to dismantle their game. Then you have guys like DJ who take it to another level.
I have a friend getting into mma ive been tryna talk him out of it. I used to fight all the time until i got knocked out bad in a street fight that gave me a concussion and lifelong intermittent tinnitus. Probably gave me a wee bit of brain damage too.
@@MrSh4des mma is actually much safer than boxing because all boxing is, is a contest to see who can cause traumatic brain damage first. mma is much safer, as most fights end in submissions or decisions, and your friend is never going to get knocked out unless hes trying to be a "fighter" anyways. I can also tell you do have brain damage because youre comparing training at a gym with being an absolute tard fighting people on the "street".
@@MrSh4desuntil you are put in a self defense situation. Yes, a strap is always a good option but the confidence gifted by having hands that can hurt another human being is REAL. SPIRITUAL even.
Yeah I can’t let him cook, he’s just glazing boxing but doesn’t really get the appeal of MMA that’s it’s realistic fighting and violence isn’t supposed be artsy and awe inspiring. The after effects of having a boxing career.. memory loss, early onset dementia, depression, substance abuse and CTE is that art too?
If you’re going to judge the artistic quality of MMA you cant criticize one isolated element, like Khabib’s striking, and use that to justify ranking it below the way a professional boxer strikes. It’s not a contextualized criticism. The reason MMA isnt an elevated art form is because no mixed martial artists has been able to do it a that high a level. Once someone is able to, it will be.
@@jalbatross64 Then hes just criticizing Khabib’s boxing. Thats why its not contextual to MMA. A sport is defined by its great athletes. I doubt boxing would look very beautiful in the same context.
I agree. At the end of the day, the overall artform is MMA, so naturally styles will differ from champion to champion. I agree that there is no perfect fighter tho, and there probably never will be a guy who is 10/10 striker, 10/10 grappler, 10/10 wrestler. I think that's what makes combat sports interesting--there are certain endings that are undisputed decisions, and sometimes it goes to judges. If you can't convince the other man to fall to your martial arts, then you're relying on subjective judgement at the end of 3-5 rounds. Definitely an artform that someone should aim to be perfect at and feel good about that accomplishment.
@@a-damthemansixtynan4463 That day is coming, I study the shit and you can see it happening already in a select few fighters, if you know what to look for. The new meta is going to be efficiency. There are about 5 or 6 guys currently in the UFC that are fighting with an evolved style, but to most people they just seem like really good fighters. People are looking for the next “Mike Tyson” and missing where the sport is actually going. Next 10 years, we will see a fighter who is 10/10 everywhere, i guarantee it.
@@TheItFactorMMAyou think the caliber of mma fighter is going to be equivalent to a single dude who is an Olympic gold medalist wrestler and world class boxer, while also being world class in bjj, sambo, Muay Thai? Even if you’re gifted the idealized body types for the different sports are different, nor is there enough time in a persons life to become 10/10 in everything. The sport obviously isn’t done evolving but life is a game of concessions and compromises. I don’t see how you get around that
There's nothing more cringe to me than when I tell a person I watch mma and they're like, oh have you watched king of the streets? That's real fighting, mma is for pussies bro. Then proceeds to show me a bunch of fighters they don't know the name of or fights they're just now watching because they don't actually watch it themselves. That's number 1 teller your a casual
Disagree more expansion means more skills and knowledge of how to excel in an actual fight..you might not be fine tuned but your options are limitless while your opponent might just know how to throw a punch
The UFCs problem is the matchmaking/ranking and promotional direction since they sold it to china. The meta shifting is fine and there is still plenty of “high art form” expression. Its up to the ufc to make the good fights happen. There are still good fights but its just become a corporate ogre of what it once was. Also im brazillian
@@saulspanco854 sure it is but UFC gets let off the hook because it competes with one of the most corrupt sports. MMA is a declining product due to lack of real competition in the space, at least in the west. It didn't get to this place on merit either. Dana has a lot of noses in his corner that make sure no other promotion ever competes with them in Vegas. You can't make it in the US if you aren't doing Vegas events.
The timeline of MMA as a professional sport isn’t long at all. It’s about 30yrs old. So for context if we look at boxing the guys fighting in MMA now are fighting before guys like Joe Louis n Rocky Marciano did in Boxings history (which was about 50yrs into the sports sanctioned history) It’s actually crazy to think how much better these MMA guys are gonna be in like 20 yrs 😂😂
13:22 oh I see that Nick is a fellow metal brother!! Huzzah!! I'd love to have him over for a DnD *sesh* and watch some old hammer horror *flicks* I can tell his "BATTLE VEST" has some EPIC patches!!
King Of The Streets fucking rules. We watch all of the KOTS events! There's some seriously talented fighters over there, mixed in with alot of Hooligans and former fighter psychopaths lol... I'm also pretty certain KOTS has had multiple deaths and may or may not be involved in a Europeean Port Authority drug trafficking
I think the limitation is mostly true. If you look at a good story you see that the protagonist will have a flaw or weakness. Usually they will overcome one or two but still not be perfect. Superman would be a worse hero without kryptonite
@@EarlMcManus2005 that's not what he's disputing. Boxing is a game because you're agreeing not to wrestle or kick. At most you could call it a competition but it's still a game.
Sam "I like the thing I am familiar with" Hyde. I bet if he studied Greco Roman grappling and Sambo in Russia instead of boxing he would be singing the same tune the other way around.
The hardest punch you've ever heard wasn't from a girl, Nicholas. It was the loudest punch you've ever heard. You've heard men getting knocked out from what sounds like a finger snap.
Human sports are microcosms of life so the limiting rules are like universal rules so I agree with Sam saying boxing is more beautiful than mma in the sense that all of these different techniques and styles were developed in the confines of the rules. MMA is beautiful in its own right with the freedom of violence but I get what he’s saying
Tony Ferguson getting wrecked with no audience is the ultimate sound effects
First thing that came to mind man, what a brutal fight that was
Poirier Hooker
Justin laying in the hardest punches I’ve ever heard one after the next is almost sickening
I try to pretend that didn’t happen….
One of the most disturbing fights to watch easily
MMA is better because I like it more
Yeah
Based
I watch both, I've practiced both. Boxing is superior.
MmA is also better because the refs are CONSTANTLY getting involved in boxing. It's rediculous
@@reluctantblumpkin if they didn't people would die.
Muay Thai has it's own industry, so not too many fighters need step out of it, same thing said for boxing.
Muay Thai is fucking crooked the and the gyms steal all the money from the guys and they have gangs threaten them to not leave. However the guys who do leave, are amazing. Rodtang is great. However when faced against Mighty Mouse. Demetrius Johnson fucked HIM UPPPP.
@@jacobm92 Not wrestling
True but also Muay does not translate well to mma at all because of the square and narrow stance that makes it super easy to be taken down.
@@D33pgr333n lol no, the reason why you don't see good thai fighters is because the infrastructure of stadia MT in Thailand made MMA illegal, and there arent many gyms sending traditional fighters to fight mma. If you look at actual MT fighters who developed in the stadiums even the middling ones do very well. Most westerners who say they do MT do it very poorly and represent it poorly; super trad MT is very defensive and space maintenance focused as opposed to offensive
@@theimpaler98 I know I’ve been and trained in Thailand twice (4 months in total) I’ve watched super trad Muay Thai personally and much prefer it to one championship.
But nothing you’ve said disproves my point of Muay Thai being too square and narrow to work in mma, Which is why it’s not seen.
Dan Hooker vs Dustin Portier. Empty area, was bat sht insane.
💯 that’s exactly what I was hoping they’d do. The fight is up there with Lawler vs Macdonald.
Yeah. And Dan was an absolute mess after that fight. One of the most brutal aftermaths I've ever seen someone wear.
It was brutal how each of them took clean, hard shots and it still went to a decision. Two of the toughest guys in the division.
yep thats a good one, mckinney vs dober as well
@@IntercourseHandguns To be fair Dan is a mess after every fight. But yeah that was pretty bad.
Sticking your legs with steroids is the HIGHEST art form.
no, pecs
Toes but instead of roids its ron
I have beey tiny nuts and bird, it makes me aerodynamic when i fight.
Gay comment.
@@ZacharyVered buying runescape membership is nearly equivalent
high art is when the 2 sweaty guys hug each other for 5 minutes and walk around
I can't tell if you're talking about mma or boxing 😂
I love jacking off to high art
I thought it was grappling and having your dong flush to another man’s face with fingerless gloves on
@barahng hes talking gay p0rn, so both?
Its because the best muay thai fighters stay in thailand, you can see it by the record, the same goes for japanese boxers. Kinda sad i would like to see them in MMA but they make decent money at least in Japan
If they're any good they can make more money in America. Inoue has a contract with Top Rank for example.
@@caulfield618 They’re not popular in the states
Not worth it usually for them to go to mma in the first place
@@caulfield618 leaving glorious nippon to go to muttland just to make a few extra BUCKS is very dishonorobu
@@caulfield618 One FC owns the Asian market. It's also more prestigious in that part of the world. It's just a different market
Islam outstruck Dustin and also has the nastiest grappling in ufc currently. Aspinal is also impressive on the ground but he rarely needs it since hes 6'5 265 pounds. Its amazing how fast mma is evolving.
Once the fighting science understands how to beat Dagestani wrestling, they won't dominate anymore, it's just a matter of how long it takes
@Originalchili Of course, we saw Volk have at least a partial answer to it with the help of Craig Jones and his just get up techniques.
@@Originalchiliit will take a while though but you probably right
@@Originalchiliit’s also a matter of culture. Dagestan and even countries like Ukraine have entire systems to encourage kids to get into MMA and boxing, regardless of wealth. Just look at soccer or basketball here in the U.S. and see how little support we give, unless parents fork up the dough
I was literally just thinking this when someone posted the original Xbox dashboard UI, and said: "No one can design this anymore, the know how has been lost", which is totally true, an average "UI/UX" designer depends entirely on the technology that they use and wouldn't be able to recreate it, but someone that just knows about shapes, colors, composition, and some math could be able to pull it off. In my brain I'd recreate it with gpu gfx shaders.
With “AI” becoming increasingly involved in internet activity, soon people will no longer be capable of thought.
Software is a tool, just like a pencil and a piece of paper are tools, you still need a good understanding of design fundamentals to create anything even remotely interesting with it. The whole 'modern art is bad and soulless' argument is just a boomer cope. Trends evolve, people constantly experiment with new things, everything comes and goes in cycles,. I’d even argue that mastering software makes the learning curve even steeper for modern graphic designers and artists. Sam’s just getting old and jaded, his whole opinion boils down to: new thing bad, me don't like
@@buratino-i7vSams arguement is that when a tool is more difficult and time consuming to use, the designer has to think a lot more about what they are doing.
@@buratino-i7v yeah but how would a web designer create the xbox dashboard? You'd have to be a hell of a CSS wizard to do it, so I'd say it's possible with common technology, but it'd be extremely hard. And sure a designer that is truly good, will be a good designer on the computer, on paper and whatever is available.
I was just focusing on the reliance on technology side of Sam's argument, but I do agree that limitations can be conducive to creativity.
And the sounds, beautiful. Wish I never sold mine
Gaethje vs Ferguson is a fantastic but brutal mma fight to watch. It took place during covid, so there's no audience. Just the announcers. You hear almost every punch. Even though both fighters are lightweights, the punches make me cringe just listening to it. I highly recommend to anyone who hasn't seen it. The whole fight is uploaded on ufc's Eurasia channel with English commentary.
Bro they each weigh like 180 in the cage lol of course they hit hard
Wool socks to bed = wake up gay 🟥🟪
YESSS FINALLY !!!!
What if you went to bed gay?
Steel toe boots to bed = wake up gay with sore feet
@@bradfordlangston836keep them on all day
any socks to sleep is gay
“Asians win in ONE sometimes…” meanwhile rodtang has like a 300 win record
it truly was surreal to hear the silent audio of fights, like it's kinda cool that's the one time we'll hear that level of fighting this clearly.
It's even more unreal in person at a boxing gym, big guy with shaved eyebrows at my gym was throwing hooks to the body on a heavy bag and i was on the other side of the gym and it still sounded so loud i thought it was gunshots.
I like the way the clay models from the old fallout games look. I think its really thoughtful and cool
Yeah man, and some idiots would say "bAd gRaPhiX"
Seeing Andy Ruiz’s head photoshopped onto Anthony Joshua’s body*
Nick “wow, good for him.”
8:00 He gets down on himself but Sam is really entertaining when he talks about philosophy and stuff like that. Very insightful guy honestly. I don't always agree but I always know I'm gonna hear a unique thought from Sam.
13:26 this is Nick's best character and nobody talks about it. I love John Stupid, but the idea of this millennial analogue horror buff is so spot on.
Super underrated! I'm a big fan of the Portuguese Dog Owner myself
don't forget metal head, millennial analog horror buff metal head
DEFINITELY CANON THERE IS PRECEDENCE FROM PGL 40 AND 41 SO IT IS CANON
I feel like the logic is backwards. MMA allows you to actually use creativity to your advantage. Boxers can have slightly different styles, but they are all going to fight basically like boxing. MMA fighters have wildly varying styles, even if they are both strikers or both grapplers, some may like to have a wide karate stance with hands low, while another stays square and boxes. A grappler may be a GSP shoot a blast double leg and ground and pound type, or a Ryan hall imanari roll for your leg and crank your heel till your knee pops. MMA is the only sport where being different for the sake of being different can actually be an advantage. Nobody is winning NBA games by inventing a brand new way to dribble or shoot, no football player is reinventing how to throw a ball, but in MMA guys show up who have unorthodox strange style that do not conform to any traditional martial art, and win because the uniqueness makes them difficult to read and counter. If any physical sporting event can be called an art form, It is MMA
The "restriction that breeds creativity" in MMA is the fact the guy standing across from you is a world class athlete who is trying to badly hurt you and if you don't execute your skills correctly you will sustain potentially life changing damage. I promise you, you get in the ring with a real good fighter, you have no choice but to get creative, or lose
I would say for the restriction breeding creativity with certain styles. Such as restricting yourself to boxing you tweak your striking way more because your arsenal is minimal and you force yourself to get way better not relying on other things likes grappling,elbows and kicks.
It helps improving a skill, but as the saying goes.
A jack of all trades is a master of none, but oftentimes better than a master of one.
its like when the teacher is doing creativity drills with the class and makes you draw an image from a random squiggle. working from what is available not through pure imagination
you cant run world of warcraft on an amiga but you can run Frontier Elite II, and anyone who knows anything about that game knows just how much divine work went into simulating a galaxy sandbox 3d newtonian spaceship and trading game on 1 floppy drive
the Amigas hardware limitations caused game engineers to really think about what they were doing and put that “measure twice, you can only cut once” mentality to work
you dont get that with modern gaming. there is no longer limitation. so all you get now is graphical cutscenes and movie quality graphics and oh boy guys we gotta care about the graphics! new graphics card releases every year! we gotta show off what it can do, guys! “Pretty art direction” Just means “Gimme your VRAM” now
You dropped this 👑
real, this is part of why gaming peaked during the 2000s. Eighth generation got hit with the double whamey of Microsoft and Sony moving to intel processors and women entering the gaming industry en masse
Taking a gun out during a fight... pure art
Agree Sam, very true about boxing being an art form due to the fact it's more limited
is arm wrestling an artform then?
@@mh3225 You could argue that. It does look kinda stupid tho. And there is so much more limitation (to my understanding) that it begs the question, at what point do constraints hamper creativity to the point it's no longer an art form?
@@DavidKFZyou just justified how mma is more of an art form. The human body itself is art and the fact that over generations humans have evolved a form of combat that utilizes all aspects of the human form- that’s art
Sam, your rants about stuff like this are golden. No need to apologize.
There is a philosophical concept "Being bound for freedom" that has a triumvirate meaning in relation to the myth of Prometheus. I think you articulated this concept very beautifully in this video.
Also, regarding brick fighting - Nigerians have a sport where they tape up one fist into a literal rock and just bludgeon each other to death in absolutely brutal fashion.
The Muay Thai guys are crazy good at striking. Their problem is that their stance doesn't translate to MMA well because a corn-fed D1 wrestler from the Midwest would just take them down immediately.
More like _HIGH _*_FART_*_ FORM_ am I right guys???
🥁
right guys??? the jews made me do it!! i swear!!!
Never forget the USS Liberty and the brave servicemen who died on that vessel
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@@triplecrosscounterWhat language is that? I'm glad I could translate it!
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4:58 This reminds me of how lanky tall guys have good powerful hooks like Alex Periera. I equate it to a mace. Only a 5lb ball of steel but its at the end of a stick and now that stick is at the end of your arm so you have all this torque for power generation. I dont actually know how it works though if anyone knows pls lmk. Interesting how a skinny long arm can generate as much or more power than a stockier buff arm.
307 ending and khalils movie "Lord of the streets" that he starred in and how he delievered the final blows to the main villain in that is creepy. consensual ritual.
Rear delts, lats and the twisting muscles of the hips and abdomen. Condition the wrist, forearms and knuckles and you got sturdy bone clubs
You explained it perfectly that’s exactly how it works. Way more leverage
of course, its the same principal of physics as hitting a golf ball
@@Ebola-Kundamn stop giving my training secrets away
The sport of mma is based off of the ability to execute, its entertaining when both people are doing that the whole time, which is why walking around looking at each other is boring
High level boxing is boring since it's literally just two guys afraid of losing their spotless record so they look at each other and throw a weak jab every 70 seconds.
Naoya Inoue is Japanese and completely destroying everyone in boxing
Jap kickboxing is also peak
"everyone". Just a bunch of midgets.
Yes. He destroys everyone under 122 lbs.
@bryanphillips8143 so?
He weighs 19 pounds
What's even crazier is Usain Bolt is his real name.
True😂
I knew a guy whos real name was Lazer Wolf
@@RossKempOnYourMum01 Right but he didn't end up as a Lazer Wolf lol
Always a pleasure to hear from Sifu Sam and Sensei Nick
Nicks impromptu beck impersonation 👌
Unexpected delight
I get the creativity thing but also there are restrictions in mma. The art comes from solving the puzzle of what your opponent is capable of and what tools you need to dismantle their game. Then you have guys like DJ who take it to another level.
I have a friend getting into mma ive been tryna talk him out of it. I used to fight all the time until i got knocked out bad in a street fight that gave me a concussion and lifelong intermittent tinnitus. Probably gave me a wee bit of brain damage too.
You don't have to compete to train, but training will leave you safer in the streets than not training
If he wants to fight professionally definitely talk him out of it. Training has been a great benefit to me though.
@9bit927 yeah I'm trying lol. And 100% mma fighting Is just completely dumb. Risk vs reward is astronomical
@@MrSh4des mma is actually much safer than boxing because all boxing is, is a contest to see who can cause traumatic brain damage first. mma is much safer, as most fights end in submissions or decisions, and your friend is never going to get knocked out unless hes trying to be a "fighter" anyways. I can also tell you do have brain damage because youre comparing training at a gym with being an absolute tard fighting people on the "street".
@@MrSh4desuntil you are put in a self defense situation. Yes, a strap is always a good option but the confidence gifted by having hands that can hurt another human being is REAL. SPIRITUAL even.
He’s complaining about grapplers nullifying beautiful striking… fails to mention the perfect wrestling and jiu jitsu techniques it takes to do that
Yeah I can’t let him cook, he’s just glazing boxing but doesn’t really get the appeal of MMA that’s it’s realistic fighting and violence isn’t supposed be artsy and awe inspiring. The after effects of having a boxing career.. memory loss, early onset dementia, depression, substance abuse and CTE is that art too?
@@12ww37Brutal fucking sport man
@@12ww37Brutal fckn sport man
European shin kicking, highest level of sport.
By this logic two of the most artistic forms of combat are Powerslap and thumb wars
this was actually extremely well thought, good episode.
If you’re going to judge the artistic quality of MMA you cant criticize one isolated element, like Khabib’s striking, and use that to justify ranking it below the way a professional boxer strikes. It’s not a contextualized criticism.
The reason MMA isnt an elevated art form is because no mixed martial artists has been able to do it a that high a level. Once someone is able to, it will be.
That is entirely the context of the criticism
@@jalbatross64 Then hes just criticizing Khabib’s boxing. Thats why its not contextual to MMA. A sport is defined by its great athletes. I doubt boxing would look very beautiful in the same context.
I agree. At the end of the day, the overall artform is MMA, so naturally styles will differ from champion to champion. I agree that there is no perfect fighter tho, and there probably never will be a guy who is 10/10 striker, 10/10 grappler, 10/10 wrestler. I think that's what makes combat sports interesting--there are certain endings that are undisputed decisions, and sometimes it goes to judges. If you can't convince the other man to fall to your martial arts, then you're relying on subjective judgement at the end of 3-5 rounds. Definitely an artform that someone should aim to be perfect at and feel good about that accomplishment.
@@a-damthemansixtynan4463 That day is coming, I study the shit and you can see it happening already in a select few fighters, if you know what to look for. The new meta is going to be efficiency. There are about 5 or 6 guys currently in the UFC that are fighting with an evolved style, but to most people they just seem like really good fighters. People are looking for the next “Mike Tyson” and missing where the sport is actually going. Next 10 years, we will see a fighter who is 10/10 everywhere, i guarantee it.
@@TheItFactorMMAyou think the caliber of mma fighter is going to be equivalent to a single dude who is an Olympic gold medalist wrestler and world class boxer, while also being world class in bjj, sambo, Muay Thai? Even if you’re gifted the idealized body types for the different sports are different, nor is there enough time in a persons life to become 10/10 in everything. The sport obviously isn’t done evolving but life is a game of concessions and compromises. I don’t see how you get around that
There's nothing more cringe to me than when I tell a person I watch mma and they're like, oh have you watched king of the streets? That's real fighting, mma is for pussies bro. Then proceeds to show me a bunch of fighters they don't know the name of or fights they're just now watching because they don't actually watch it themselves.
That's number 1 teller your a casual
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I agree. More limitation breeds finer skill. This is true for everything. 👍
Disagree more expansion means more skills and knowledge of how to excel in an actual fight..you might not be fine tuned but your options are limitless while your opponent might just know how to throw a punch
@@JohnDoe-g1sexpansion isn’t inherently good
@@whitemonstriusexpanding skills and knowledge in combat is always a benefit. Specialization breeds inevitable failure of the system maaaang
sam knows he'd die in mma because of his little chicken shins
These guys are in the mid life crisis era😂
17:27 no way Nick pronounced Gaethje like that 😂
I want to argue in favor of MMA but if you see my fight companion streams I'm trashing modern MMA for 50% of it
I freaking love zombie orc pirates with samurai swords
8:33 you know who else went to art school...
You should be a master of your tool. Your tool should not be your master.
Truer word salad has never been spoken
Nice, Sam knows about Fighter Mark Hunt.
The UFCs problem is the matchmaking/ranking and promotional direction since they sold it to china. The meta shifting is fine and there is still plenty of “high art form” expression. Its up to the ufc to make the good fights happen. There are still good fights but its just become a corporate ogre of what it once was.
Also im brazillian
The matchmaking lately has definitely reflected this reality
Boxing matchmaking is atrocious 😂😂
@@saulspanco854 sure it is but UFC gets let off the hook because it competes with one of the most corrupt sports. MMA is a declining product due to lack of real competition in the space, at least in the west. It didn't get to this place on merit either. Dana has a lot of noses in his corner that make sure no other promotion ever competes with them in Vegas. You can't make it in the US if you aren't doing Vegas events.
SOBRASAÕ BRAZILAÕ
I wonder if sam saw the pereira khalil fight. Fight of the year
The timeline of MMA as a professional sport isn’t long at all. It’s about 30yrs old. So for context if we look at boxing the guys fighting in MMA now are fighting before guys like Joe Louis n Rocky Marciano did in Boxings history (which was about 50yrs into the sports sanctioned history) It’s actually crazy to think how much better these MMA guys are gonna be in like 20 yrs 😂😂
Watch the Gaethje vs Ferguson Fight for a Perfect example of this was like a WWF empty arena match
If i need opinions on thyroid issues, having a XXXXL skull and looking like shit while taking steroids Sam will be the first person I ask
Tiny head
And giant Schlong
LOL
Oooh someone's feeling catty today!
We'd see him roid rage dood
Lmao i love how nick casually busted out the gamestop metal guy accent 13:10
his "battle vest" must be absolutely RIVETING!!
Also mma is 30 years old. It may have an established meta one day. Boxing is 100s of years old.
Should check out DEEP, it’s a Japanese mma promotion that allows soccer kicks to a grounded opponents head and other crazy shit
tomato can promotion
mma's trash
What the hell did I do to you two?Shit 😂
13:22 oh I see that Nick is a fellow metal brother!! Huzzah!! I'd love to have him over for a DnD *sesh* and watch some old hammer horror *flicks* I can tell his "BATTLE VEST" has some EPIC patches!!
Its all about the contraints of the rule set. As mma evolves the metas will become more high level like in boxing muay thai wrestling grappling etc.
But also 4 oz gloves mean everything is slightly more dangerous and no matter what's going on the fight can always end in a second
Holy fuck, that left hook at 0:47 knocked him out for a second, and the ropes kept him up, the and the other punches brought him back
Adrian Newey, one of the greatest Formula 1 car designers, still uses a drawing board rather than software.
This is great stuff
That last fight was crazy. I think you need to be a combat vet to really do that stuff.
King Of The Streets fucking rules. We watch all of the KOTS events! There's some seriously talented fighters over there, mixed in with alot of Hooligans and former fighter psychopaths lol... I'm also pretty certain KOTS has had multiple deaths and may or may not be involved in a Europeean Port Authority drug trafficking
that seeking out how to explain why drawing is a superior for visualization is how you get a groove ahead
Thanks for everything Sam Hyde.
The equivalent of this is if someone decided that Chess should also have Checkers and Backgammon built in for "spectacle."
21:56 “I don’t like boxing, I don’t ever wanna do it again” whaaaat
Power slap is the highest fighting form
My favorite was hearing fighters talking shit to each other, especially the fight between Bryce Mitchell and another guy.
Great video.
Art guys, memorize this.
Man these guys are yerked. I think I get it now
I think the limitation is mostly true. If you look at a good story you see that the protagonist will have a flaw or weakness. Usually they will overcome one or two but still not be perfect. Superman would be a worse hero without kryptonite
You can get this still if you just watch one fc
KOTS was the first fight I saw legit eye gouging. And the guy doing it won.
Boxing is a game. MMA is an actual fight. Real world vs. Imagination land
Game with a serious risk of CTE 😂
You have never boxed. Actual boxers would have folded you.
youre braindead if you think mma is anywhere close to a real life fight.
you are brown
@@EarlMcManus2005 that's not what he's disputing. Boxing is a game because you're agreeing not to wrestle or kick. At most you could call it a competition but it's still a game.
This is the best cocaine fueled podcast out there
Nick with the bald head is legit. He can rock it for sure
Sams forearms looking jacked
The best mma fights are more entertaining than the best boxing fights.
This is objectively not true.
bullshit lmao
Dude
If you already prefer it yea
boxing's been mogging mma since da big virus hit da globe
u're just a zuffa zombie. its ok
yap yap yap
Nick wasn’t wrong, I’m sure Ruiz does have quite a bit of “displacement”, at least if he’s in water
Soccer kicks and stomps are coming back
Just two dudes talking out of their asses about sports they barely ever trained
Sam "I like the thing I am familiar with" Hyde. I bet if he studied Greco Roman grappling and Sambo in Russia instead of boxing he would be singing the same tune the other way around.
The hardest punch you've ever heard wasn't from a girl, Nicholas. It was the loudest punch you've ever heard. You've heard men getting knocked out from what sounds like a finger snap.
This is awesome
Americans are best at MMA but I can't think of a single current champ from America.
Jon jones
Stats! Best! That’s me!
Just play Sudoku. Good for brain. Good brain, better live 🧠
"nobody is as good as americans" bro look at UFC champions right now.
Zero American heavyweights in boxing right now too. Atrazine and glycosaphate has taken your pee pees and fighters away. You're ripe for invasion xD
Do you by any chance wear cole haans?
Heavyweight world champion is american
@@Ernestreborn heavyweight world champ is challenging a retired croatian so he doesn't have to fight the Anglo BVLL
@@Ernestreborn The real champion is British. Dana's favorite is American.
Human sports are microcosms of life so the limiting rules are like universal rules so I agree with Sam saying boxing is more beautiful than mma in the sense that all of these different techniques and styles were developed in the confines of the rules. MMA is beautiful in its own right with the freedom of violence but I get what he’s saying
Sam has one amateur boxing match lol... calm down bro. There's 16 year olds with more credibility than u
Physiognomy check failed my dude
@@notillatall you think that's my real face? Look up Ashley Paul Griffith
@@notillatall lmao you think that's my actual face?
He’s talking about it as an art form, in which he is credible
@@Ryan-sf8nf expand.
i remember this art talk from one his single topic videos in the past
Sam got wrestled around the cage by a 40 pound Russian guy and now has his fifis hurt and only does Aikido ,the ultimate art form
Less people is better you get to hear more stuff it’s more real less talking more work 0:38 underrated
If i were to pick a Mongrel Martial Art it would be Sambo , headbutts are awesome