Why they don't tell you about Hitler's "Shrinking Markets" problem
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- In my previous video "The REAL Reason why Hitler HAD to start WW2" (link • The REAL Reason why Hi... ) we saw how Hitler's "Shrinking Markets" problem as a central ideological reason for why Hitler had to go to war. Without it, the explanation for WW2 makes no sense. And yet, it's not talked about in most of the books, or taught in schools. Many of you wanted to know why. Well, here is the answer.
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Can’t wait to get put on “Bad History” again on Reddit to be ‘refuted’ by an inter-Nazi using two sources, one of which is Wikipedia… or to be told to “read a book” by other Nazis...
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You were on bad history?
Yeah, some Marxist said I was lying and misleading people, and 'refuted' me with two sources, and basically rejected everything I said... except he completely missed the elephant in the room - the socialist shrinking markets problem.
Oi, u forgot to cite the pages! Thats actually, what did u exactly read? Are u doing the same video that u did a long time ago with more citation without actually citing anything?
@@TheImperatorKnight what is a inter-nazi
Inter-National Socialist (Marxist)
I'm getting the idea that TIK doesn't really like socialism.
Yeah. Pretty much.
Or even understand, considering he called Hitler socialist.
@ well it works, at the expense of the population...until it doesn't and it all falls apart.
@ the moral story of all socialist countries
@Fragenzeichenplatte He demonstrated that. Hitler thought himself as a socialist, used socialist ideas and concepts, and just remplaced a few things by his own ideas on race.
It's in the fucking party name, national socialism, and no, the first part doesn't mean you can ignore the second.
"When two girls share one cup"?! Long forgotten images suddenly come back to mind while I'm having dinner. Thanks for nothing, mate.
I thought that was a great one. I actually had to stop the video until I finished laughing...
@@TEbersberger same... lol
the best description of socialism I heard in a while...
@Rend TO THE GUILLOTINE
That was a fire joke though!
Never saw it... now 2 girls one finger and one guy one jar...
Socialism ; Policies so good ,that they need to be mandatory.
🤣🤣🤣👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
@Olefante no, policies do not need to be mandatory. they are merely normative opinions. only when you gain power and implement your policies as mandatory for all, that becomes true. e.g a policy becomes law.
@@claudedolorossa5607 "Do not murder children, a policy so good, we had to make it mandatory." Every law can be criticized by this metric.
try reading again what i wrote. i guess i forgot a comma...
and yes. i know what a policy is. you dont?
noun
a course or principle of action adopted or proposed by an organization or individual.
@@thisprojectisretired1055 yes. i do. do you? otherwise i added the definition.
Naming inflation as a "silent tax" is brilliant!
It is indeed
Wait a minute, that’s brilliant! We gotta use this for policy
That's a pretty old term bro
@@jintarokensei3308 I hadn't heard of it before, but I really figured it out living in Israel during the 1980's. Owning dollars was a crime and you spent money as fast as you got it.
@@jintarokensei3308 Our socialist education system failed them severely
When I entered college I was a keen, and devoted Econ major. After two years of only being taught Keynes, and Marx I finally switched majors to data science and haven’t looked back since.
I had a totally different experience, in my time in the mid 90s, macroeconomics was all about so called neoliberal school, and keynes was mentioned for about 15 minutes. That way, the economists should not wonder when others think of them as cultists who follow shifting truths.
@@swashbukk The reason for that is that it was in the wake of the fall of the soviet union. In the mid to late 80s academics where forced, by an influx of overwhelming evidence, to change their tunes and disavow socialism. Of course, after a couple of decades had gone by, the details where forgotten and/or deliberately erased.
@@swashbukk As a side note, that neoliberal school was forced on Yugoslavia from the outside, which, in my theory, lead to inciting the Croats to rise up. This separatist movement was embraced in the West as soon as it started (first by Germany), painted with colours suiting the separatist side in the media, funded for war and so on. The privatization of the Serbian economy according to the new neoliberal economy was not started until the 2000, the same year that marked a coup, overthrowing the regime from within. The remaining factories that were not affected by the last year's bombing were sold for peanuts (under their market value). Nowadays, Serbian government gives out, I kid you not, 15,000 EUR per workplace, land ownership over factory grounds for free and other bonuses for every *foreign* company that wants to invest in Serbia. It is utterly stupid imho.
That's the kosher sandwich for ya; a false dichotomy where both options are ultimately from the same source and neither is good for you or what you really want.
Data science??? What the heck is that? All sciences, and the now defunct profession of journalism, used data.
I was taught “shrinking markets theory” in my economic classes as well, but it wasn’t taught me by a Marxist. Honestly, I couldn’t tell you what the political leanings of my economics professor was because he kept it to himself. Instead the “shrinking markets theory” was a passing subject.
easy fix, does he teach you about keynesian or austrian economics? ones about centralizing while the other is more individualistic.
@@imperialnerd7026 can you tell me what you mean by state before i reply.(also did you mean barely or barley)
@@imperialnerd7026 it's cool. In america sometimes you have to differentiate between the state and states(new york, california, or georgia). The state usually means government while it could also mean state individual rights. its can be confusing without right context
@@imperialnerd7026 and both are glass cannons at best. While im not one of those hippies in the street chanting about fairness Keynesian economics does bare evidence to some of their claims. In time the rich will get richer as poor get poorer.
@Gordon Brown hey man, if walks likes a duck, quacks like a duck, ect., but i'm all ears if you care to elaborate
Did Tik just say “Two Girls One Cup”???
2 girls 1 cup is REAL socialism!?!
@@TheImperatorKnight So, what is really going on in shadow cabinet meetings behind closed doors?!! 😲
@@TheImperatorKnight you know about the 2 girls 1 cup video? best joke about socialism ever. you know became god of humour
Looool!! Two guys one hammer is a Ukrainian serial killer snuff film too.
@@dannyboi986 that would be grimm
"Propaganda ministry... also known as the BBC"
*Korp you HitLer Loving, Trump Voting Inbred DeMonic IDIOT!!!!*
@@americanmartyr9268 yes. Totally me.
@@americanmartyr9268 Judging from the title on your latest video I'm guessing you regretted not being a Trump Loving, Trump Voting Inbred Demonic Idiot
Damned right! BBC are a vile institution
So... Fox News?
We covered Hitler's Germany back when I was in yr11, we didn't really go into the in's and out's of the economy but our teacher made it imperative that we remembered that Hitler was a socialist, one person eventually asked how he was a socialist and my teacher dedicated pretty much half a lesson as to why Hitler was a socialist
How long ago was that? Never ask a fella his age directly. LOL.
I have to kinda wonder how many folk were as lucky as you to get a teacher who understood, and more importantly gave a toss.
I also have ponder on how much it would happen these days.
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Full on capitalism is also evil, which why is Karl Marx even had a platform to stand on.
Full blown capitalism with no regulation leads to monopolies, led by tycoons, and no incentives to do anything that does not boost their bottom line.
Thus you would be unable to get most services in the rural areas, you would be working as much as you possibly can without losing productivity, and you would be given a wage just high enough so you can live and buy a few products to keep the economy going.
It is why most developed countries are a mixed bag between Socialism and Capitalism, and with USA calling western and northern europe socialist.
Karl Marx in Das Kapital even made it clear in his analysis, that the push towards socialism and further to communism was a bound process. It is one of reasons even the biggest capitalists looks at the inequality of a country with great care.
Hitler never nationalized industry. Kind of blows up your whole statement.
@@ericanderson7346 Some of that boils down to technicalities. The state made huge public spending's on projects to be carried out by the private companies.
The private companies got quotas that had to deliver, and the ones that failed would be bought up and transferred to the ones that could. Creating as many monopolies as possibly, as a way to produce as much as possible.
For example Göring that gets in charge of steel production, makes it so that pretty much every steel producer is only selling to the government and that there are gonna be a monopoly around the best producer.
It is kind of state owned, but still private companies, using mafia/mobster methods to enforce monopolies and they remove almost all the previous regulations on businesses and workers rights.
Keynes was a revolutionary socialist?
You on the spice?
He was a massive advocate of deficit spending and a lot of modern socialists or do we call them social democrats now. All follow his ideas . He is credited with being a key figure in moving from the gold standard and quantitative easing . The flooding the market with money to increase inflation and somehow stimulating growth . I doubt he was a revolutionary socialist but he did change the world
He was, tik isn't, you have been lied to by a history written by Marxist socialists.
Always one conspiracy idiot who thinks he knows the truth.
TFW the entire modern world is socialist! yay!
I think the point was that he agreed with some concepts
Not saying that your point is wrong, but I dont believe that you can just plot political idealogies on a 1D scale
The political compass is actually 2d but whatever, you have a point
@@daniturrocap791 2D is way better than 1D.
in a previous video he demonstrated this exact same point on a 3D scale lol
Yes but this is the real version of the simplified scale, on a line. A 3D scale is better for specific ideals but this works as a generalization
*fixed*
However I kind of agree with you on this point. I think political spectrum is more than 1D. At most simple way it would be 2D but 3D would describe the case as best as possible.
authoritarianism-Individualism X axis
Socialism-Capitalism Y axis
Conservatism-Liberalism Z axis
"when two girls share one cup ,now thats real socialism!"
I'm dying. XD
The worst part i understand that reference...
😂😂
I don't get it. Why is it supposedly so funny?
@@ClearOutSamskarasGoogle it. You have been warned
@@ClearOutSamskaras you're one of the lucky ones don't look it up it will traumatize you.
You just earned yourself a subscription. Finally a historian who doesn't just study the past out of obsessive curiosity, but who actually seek to make apply its lesson for today
Except he's a LIAR in every way!
NOT ONE CAPITALIST calls to make military, police and fire PRIVATIZED, see?
@@professorcranium4792 If you want a privatised police force, come to South Africa. Here, private security companies are outnumbering police and are better equiped and trained.
@@Hannodb1961 I fear you missed my point completely.
the people who slam BIG GOVT SOCIALISM....are the same people who tell us to OBEY police and military (aka BIG GOVT SOCIALISM) blindly (while Libs say "never trust police or military"!)
These cons are total liars.
@@professorcranium4792 Lol. The people who bitch about the police are also the first ones to call the police when they're offended by something juvinile. The leftists are total liars.
i love this subsection bc its needlesly angry, makes few points and doesnt adress that most history cant be mapped onto today since back in the day surprise surprise things where diffrent.
you had blaitend racism running wild tons and tons of plpl starving due to the hyper inflation and we just barely had the radio as one of the fastest and overall best news sorces.
I have heard of the WWII shrinking markets theory, but never studied it in depth. Thank you for delving into this issue.
Hold on, why of all people is Keynes considered a MARXIST Socialist? Where did that come from? Keynes supported capitalism through his concepts of government interventionism and deficit spending to get out of an economic recession or depression rather than the reckless concept of laissez-faire. And never have I ever read that he supported the Shrinking Economy. Did you confuse the concept of Shrinking Economies with the concept of shrinking production during an economic downpour?
Keynes is not considered a marxists socialist, TIK is making shit up
Keynes isn't considered a Marxist Socialist, but TIK does seem to consider him a socialist. One of the things I disagree with him in this video.
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Did you confuse the concept of Shrinking Economies with the concept of shrinking production during an economic downpour
-its basicly the same thing ,Keynes took it from marx and changed it
yeah the fabians are well known capitalists.
You sir, History hustle and Mark Felton are my favourite historians. Let's hope that I'll also become one.
I watch Mark.. He's too mainstream... I will try history hustle... The armchair historian speaks some good truths too
Is history hustle that "dutch teacher guy"? I liked some of his stuff but his videos were really short so they didn't get into details much
Mark Felton does not understand or explain the reality of history as TIK does. TIK gets it and is the best historian I have seen in over 60 years...
I'm not hoping that. I'm fine with what we already have. Have a good day Hrvoje.
@@TL8311-j6x Vodka plz!
I was under the age of 10 when I started studying military history--I'm 55 now, so I don't remember exactly--and by the time I was a teenager I was faced with the problem of how these supposedly ideologically-opposite dictatorships managed to work out to be essentially the same thing. I finally decided that the political spectrum was a circle rather than a line, and that Hitler and Stalin were at the ends and standing back-to-back, being the same murderous things while screaming that the other one sucks. Your explanation makes a lot more sense.
In Suvorov's "Icebreaker" I've read once that nazis and marxists had to clash because their ideologies were in a competition. And it's true, since both of them want to liberate working class, each on it's own way. The funniest thing is, that even thou Suvorov was a GRU officer, thus indoctrinated throughout his military career and chosen to be an intelligence resident in West as a loyal Soviet soldier, he knew what bullshit idea bolshevism and socialism are.
68 and believed the same thing, until just now!
I graduated with honors with a political science degree and your view point I agree with. I thought people were just ignorant of the lies they believe. Now as a older person I think people want to believe the lies so they are not responsible for the truth.
When you mentioned Khmer Rouge Cambodia, I remember my relatives who went missing there. Others were running to Southern Vietnam. My grandpa and grandma were lucky that they fled to South Vietnam before 1975 due to mass bombing from the Americans, knowing nothing about the Khmer Rouge.
I was so glad that my government reformed in 1986, allowing private businesses and foreign investments to happen. No more equal food portion distribution system or taking away rich people's properties and goods in the name of socialism. We are getting further away from poverty slowly. Our lives are much better than post-1975 era. Only if the government becomes a socialist no more.
I've been there once for a day , i lived in Thailand and then went to poipet for a day.. it's a big difference to thailand. I hope your country becomes as great as it was in the 60s
TIK at the airport
*Picks his suitcase off the carousel*
"But is that really the case?"
At this rate TIK will be an AnCap by the end of the years screeching on about anime and roads.
... or that :D Like, holy shit that primitive accumulation myth right there. Guy must be born into money.
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Jesus Christ its like his brain melted
One has to be rather uneducated to support AnCap in general first of all because its impossible to have.
Capitalism is basically two things free markets and private property, the second of which has to be protected by a state with laws against theft and so on. So if a person is an AnCap they are uneducated about what capitalism is.
And we got someone openly showing video of the bolsheviks I suspect non of you are really under a communist threat never really feel it before and that why people are so ignorant about it. Being a communist before your thirties is romance after your thirties that will be stupidity.
I am not really on the same boat considering your rant on: socialism => Totalitarism => Marxism. Any state that is democratic in nature, will in some presence, have the tendency to distribute means over a its population: e.g. it be infrastructure, educational / medical support programs, subsidies, etc.
Reasons for this can be very practical: Improving education, health, infrastructure and reducing severe poverty helps reducing crime, promote satisfaction of the populous and helps maximizing productivity of a population. This is not an artificial thing either, if a government would not do this on state level, than other social constructs like local municipalities, neighborhoods, family ties or clans would take their obligation to redistribute means to the extend they seem fit. The liberal mind-set would make this completely voluntary (alto social and/or family pressure still would impose some obligation) or you make it mandatory by means of jurisdictional means, which at least (should) make redistribution simpler to interpret and 'fairer', cause it will be mandatory for everyone. Might not be the best, but it is a practical solution an nation wide populations. (excuse me, if I make errors in this reasoning, I am not claiming to be an expert on state-craft, but I'm willing to discuss).
The way how you want to promote it can be on the left side (with a tendency to make it state controlled) or right side (a tendency to promote private corporations to take up the distribution of means). In al practical senses, you still end up with some part of this redistribution mechanism to be state controlled, cause public outrage when faults (inevitably) occur demand action from politics.
Your presentation goes into a way where 'socialism', as currently used modern political systems, is in essence and unavoidable on the path of totalitarians. Especially with the pictures you show at the end. (IMO teachers striking for more funds makes sense, as most social-democratic still promote private property / private income, where in a lot of countries the education system is (partially) state-funded. Striking makes sense, as it asks for another balance of state expenses). I don't know if this is really your point of view or maybe is is a way showing how you object to modern political systems to use the term socialism, while this is probably not the goal for the majority of their voters (or party) anymore. (And lets be honest, Marxism is a very radical way of creating something like an economic Endlösung, that in reality is probably not compatible with how human nature works. It is by all means a theoretical approach).
My personal opinions are a bit conservative / technocratic: but making something purely private or purely state-owned does not at all guarantee at all that something works as intended or at all. Especially if you remove means to make people accountable (e.g. monopolies, political corruption, nepotism) even the nicest 'dressed up' ambitions risk ending up in the gutter. This is where totalitarian states, or nations with a heavy balance on state control, risk up ending into. But, if wealth is power (IMO wealth opens possibilities), an to much uneven distribution of means is also a way of control, as long as society does not raise possibilities to improve your social status if you don't have the wealth. How to balance this, is the challenge. IMO no extremist solution will suffice, as they always are based on the view that 'somebody is smarter, righteous, or strong enough' to decide how to govern, not humble enough to realize that they inevitably will end up creating organizations that are 'strong' and efficient, but also easily manipulated, mismanaged or abused from within because they are from the start created on a basis that excludes open discussion.
Well in the end it comes up to this,
In a perfectly democratic state where everyone makes perfect decisions an accountable well run government economy is the best.
In the state where everyone is benevolent genius capitalists will benefit everyone.
No one has ever really been able to find out what will anything work like if neither of those is met under any system. And how well they run.
Next time edit some grammar into it.
@@pd4165 yeah, sentence structure is a bit wonkey, but as non-native English speaker with better stuff to do, it will have to suffice. It isn't like this is my job, is it?
I'm not sure how TIK views this (he does sound ancap at times).
I would consider as core views (just my labels, feel free to use your own):
- Ancap: no state at all
- Libertarian: the state protects life, liberty and property. Redistribution is not a goal of the state.
- ("classical") Liberal: Minimal redistribution is a goal of the state, so as to ensure social mobility and minimize problems caused by abject poverty. Regulation is necessary to prevent political/economic abuses.
- Social Liberal (social-democrat): extensive redistribution is a goal in and of itself, so as to create equality of outcome. Regulation is desirable to create a more desirable society.
- Socialism: That is not enough. Society must be in full control.
It can easily be argued that social-democrats do often seek socialism, or if not consciously, stand on a slippery slope. Indeed, many such parties used to be openly socialist before the USSR collapsed, and seem to now revive that view, perhaps as the new generation doesn't know the USSR.
I think the distinction is important, but it's fair to argue this point, and a due warning.
Finally, probably worth pointing out that most people in the West are inbetween Liberal and Social-Liberal views. With most of the right liking the Liberal principles but accepting some social programs as useful; and the left preferring social-liberal principles but recognizing that moderation is needed to be able to pay for it.
I'm with you on this one. You cant build an anarchic society and hope it goes well. The idea that societal problems will resolve themselves naturally banks on the same false premise as socialism - that common sense and empathy will trump the individual greed. Hint: it won't.
Also, Keynes is Marxist? WTF?
TIK is an ultra-libertarian. According to them even Hillary Clinton is a Bolshevik.
TIK is no longer believable. His early stuff was cool but now he just went batshit insane
@@Blunderbussy I think his videos on military history are still very good. This branch of his videos suffers from his very libertarian point of view, thinking that Maynard was a marxist is just a big fail. And he just makes a big mistake by thinking that totalitarianism=socialism. He still might have a good point with Hitler believing in shrinking markets, but I have to find first where he found that information. Still, he should read some other books on economics that just Hazlitt and Sowell, which are both libertarians.
Well, if you see the common point that is state intervention, it kinda makes sense
@@Baamthe25th It doesn't really make sense if you look at how bizarre TIK's idea of a state is. Basically every organized group that has power to influence stuff is a state, and if an individual is in charge of it, he suddenly "becomes the state", so every exercise of power is somehow marxist.
This was exceptional. Not only is the research excellent, the injection of humor (into a very unpalatable topic) was welcomed. I actually laughed out loud a couple times, which I certainly didn’t expect.
Keep your head up, and keep doing the incredibly important work that you do, good sir. Don’t let hateful socialists get you down, you’re on the path you belong.
This.
Why haven't I found this channel sooner?
The TH-cam algorithm doesn't like me much :/
@@TheImperatorKnight Honestly not surprised. Our enlightened Silicon Valley overlords know better than we do what we want to see
Or had did I find this so soon? The fact is that you did find it even though the people who created the algorhythm does not like TIK..too much. Because they are in fai.th socialist?
@@TheImperatorKnight I sure wish I could spend the day with you talking. I am greatly saddened by the death of critical thinking and denial of the past. It's all for the indoctrination of the youth. Please.keep it up. Keep battling Tik. You are a Godsend for our kids....the ones that will listen.
So 1: I grew up in a commie, and soon after, an ex-commie country. Had to be a pioneer, had to learn Russian as mandatory language. I agree completely with the part of the video that Leninism-Stalinism/Soviet Socialism have striking resemblances and common practices with Naziism. I myself resorted to simply call them extremes, and it does not matter if they are 'left' or 'right', because, indeed, they pretty much came up with the same practical solutions to all their problems.
2: However, I do not agree with the insinuation that any kind of common good, state healthcare, pension, or unemployment payment is the door to Naziism and/or Stalinist oppression. I believe that these are neccessary elements and safeguards of a modern, competitive society.
3: I'd also point out that extreme individualism can manifest in similar fashion to said Leninism/Stalinism/Naziism. The leaders and acolytes of these systems proclaimed that they have been raised to power because they are the most capable individuals who understand the people's needs. (see Fuhrerprinzip) Both extremes cultivated very similar individuals as leaders, who were very political, extremely untrustworthy, disloyal, and opportunistic. The opulence of the Gauleiters of the Nazis were mirrored by the local party secretaries in Communism; both were de facto viceroys, both were highly individualistic and unaccountable.
4. Thus I think that extreme capitalism, where a person can do anything as long as they have the largest amount of money and wealth, is a similarly extremist ideology as Naziism/Stalinism.
If I misunderstood the creator, then apologies; I really liked some of his prevous material. However, in this clip, there seems to be a tad too much liberal-bashing for my taste.
#2 a State-ran anything sounds like a good idea in principle, but is ALWAYS inefficient and poorly ran in practice. Since there is no competition nor incentive, these burocracies eventually collapse under their own bloated weight. They collapse even faster when you open them up to non-altruistic people and scammers. #4 you are correct, but that is why the US has anti-trust and monopoly busting laws in place. As long as they are upheld, titans of industry must compete against each other. Until they form a cartel or cabal of course, which they will. Which is why we then have the 2nd amendment.
@@bbooth1229 My good Sir, I believe you are mistaken.
As for #2: state healthcare may be less 'efficient' than certain private healthcare providers - but what do you use as the measure of efficiency? Money earned? If so, then the privatised US healthcare indeed could be considered efficient, since its one of the three most expensive healthcare systems in the world for per capita spending. (i.e. it is certainly efficient as a means of lining the pockets of healthcare providers) But, if we consider the lives saved, or the general health of the population the measures, the US system is much, much less 'efficient'; in fact it fares rather poorly compared many other developed countries. The US trails every Western European country in life expectancy (38th place, right after Lebanon); it trails even post-communist EU contries and Cuba in child mortality; rates worse in obesity than most European countries, etc.
Further to dispel the free-market dogma that private-run businesses are always better than state - could you tell me a place in the US where the military, or the police, or the courts are run by a private company? How about me buying a nuke as a private entity? Or could I build one for myself? I'm pretty sure I could do it way cheaper than Sandia. Can I do that? Of course I cannot. The state has to monopolise and control these areas, otherwise it would cease to function as a government (since it could not protect its citizens from anything). Also, could you tell me how come that in all militaries around the world healthcare comes free to all members? (Well, to be fair, it's not free, but built into the cost of the service) There is no one at the field hospital asking for your insurance - I wonder why?...
I also wanted to note, that despite its troubles, state heathcare is pretty well and alive in most Western democracies. Germany, Sweden, France, etc. all had some form of state healthcare for the past 60+ years, and, as discussed earlier, their population is generally in better health compared to the US. Furthermore - private healthcare is also alive and well in these countries! Yes, there are private health providers around Europe, and if you wish, you can go and pay $300 for an inhaler. But, if you don't have the money - you don't have to!
As for #4: As far as the connection of the 2nd amendment to anti-trust laws goes - in my limited knowledge of US history, no 'well regulated militia' or private citizens 'bearing arms' have ever, ever dissolved a single monopoly or cartel. On the other hand, the Federal Court, i.e. the state, did: like in the case of Standard Oil, or the Hollywood film studios (and in a few other cases).
In conclusion, Sir: I am not advocating that all private enterprise should be sacrificed for the sake of state providence; but I do advocate that a modern state should take responsibility for the general wellbeing of its citizens. And, if a state claims itself to be the 'best in everything' in the world, it should be ready to put its money where its mouth is.
kisfekete very well. A good example of a state run healthcare in the US was the Dept of Veterans. Before Trump cleaned house, it was a sluggish nightmare for most people. As far as European state healthcare, these populations are more healthy because of better diet, excursive, and work/life balance, not because their healthcare system is better. Also, we are talking about largely homogeneous populations around 5 to 15 million compared to our population of 300 million and 50 million illegal aliens. As far as better healthcare in Canada, Cuba, etc, most recognize our healthcare as tops in the world and would come here for treatment if they could. I have seen and experienced socialized healthcare in England for example. No thanks. That is NOT to say ours is perfect, it’s definitely not, but socializing it would be an unmitigated disaster. As far as socializing nuclear...of course. Police I am not too sure about. We used to socialize space travel, and them Musk, Bezos, and Richard showed up and made it far more efficient. We privatize military with Blackwater with mixed results, so police I am not sure about. #4. The second ammendment hasnt been used, thank God, but it is the ultimate fail-safe against any tyranny, both left and right generated. The capitalist oligarchs may eventually join forces and buy the entire government, Lord knows they are trying, at which point our laws are no longer enforceable. THAT is when the 2nd comes into play.
@wagner1va so what you're saying is that the two aren't really comparable. Thetefor there's no way to know if U.S private health care is more efficient.
9:46 Goebbels's Propaganda Ministry, also known as the BBC.
😂😂😂
That bit is actually true when you hear BBC's reports on Ukraine, Yugoslavia, Russia and Eastern Europe in general.
Literally copied from Goebbels.
What? The Big Black Cock? 😂
Crazy how much we get from the nazis.
Theo Bolt
Big British Cock.
@@RedVelvetBlackleather I prefer the Big British Cock myself. Lmfao!!!
Just found this channel and it’s just what I needed!! Appreciate all of the knowledge and history presented
I'm disappointed TIK hasn't included 2 girls 1 cup in the reference list.
That would definitely get my channel taken down...
Can you plz explain?
@@danieltsiprun8080 See TIK's comment. Googles your friend.
Do NOT Google this. Sometimes being slightly ignorant of a subject is a good thing.
Ok, so, I won't google it. I'm guessing that term is sexual?
TIK at 1:48 in the video you made me fall off my chair. You state that the theory about the rate of profit falling as a tendency has something to do with falling profit and population increase. Now I know that Smith Ricardo and Marx all had theories about the falling rate of profit. None to my knowledge thought that population increase was a function. Here's the Wikipedia explanation "Smith
In Adam Smith's TRPF theory, the falling tendency resulted from increased competition which accompanied the growth of capital. Intensifying competition itself would drive down the average profit rate.[13]
Ricardo
Criticizing Adam Smith, David Ricardo argued that competition could only level out differences in profit rates on investments in production, but not lower the general profit rate (the grand-average profit rate) as a whole.[14] Apart from a few exceptional cases, Ricardo claimed, the average rate of profit could only fall if wages rose.[15]
Marx
In Capital, Karl Marx criticized Ricardo's idea. Marx argued that, instead, the tendency of the rate of profit to fall is "an expression peculiar to the capitalist mode of production of the progressive development of the social productivity of labor".[16] Marx never denied that profits could contingently fall for all kinds of reasons,[16] but he thought there was also a structural reason for the TRPF, regardless of conjunctural market fluctuations.
Marx argued that technological innovation enabled more efficient means of production. Physical productivity would increase as a result, i.e. a greater output (of use values, i.e., physical output) would be produced, per unit of capital invested. Simultaneously, however, technological innovations would replace people with machinery, and the organic composition of capital would increase. Assuming only labor can produce new additional value, this greater physical output would embody a gradually decreasing value and surplus value, relative to the value of production capital invested. In response, the average rate of industrial profit would therefore tend to decline in the longer term.
It declined in the long run, Marx argued, paradoxically not because productivity decreased, but instead because it increased, with the aid of a bigger investment in equipment and materials.[17] .....
The central idea that Marx had, was that overall technological progress has a long-term "labor-saving bias", and that the overall long-term effect of saving labor time in producing commodities with the aid of more and more machinery had to be a falling rate of profit on production capital, quite regardless of market fluctuations or financial constructions.[19]
Marx falling rate of profit & population -> that was one piece of nonsense that caught my attention too. I did choose to put my attention on all the other bull TIK was telling. It was too much bull to easily address them all.
@Pedro Parica Did you also know that the state doing stuff is socialism too? The whole WORLD is socialist! Your firefighters are communists! EVERYONE IS A COMMUNIST! AAAAAAAH!
Well, I actualy am, but psht!
Of course, a company that has no one to sell to will go out of business, so prices have to fall accordingly. And if prices fall, then People have more money to spend on new kinds of things, which creates new industries, and new jobs.
Marx may explain why the copper industry is a bad investment, but he never made the leap of explaining this in a macroeconomic sense.
Also TIK don't understand Marx.
Stop lying, u werent laughing unless u were high on farts
I will argue that this was not a video about history, but a political rant. Not a deployment of arguments, but an attack on anyone who may not have already fully accepted a very specific point of view. Not particularly constructive.
"Das Krapital" had me actually laugh out loud
Can you do a separate video explaining how Keynes is a socialist?
There is no fucking world in which Keynes is a socialist. He’s a liberal through and through and tik is being an idiot either willfully or unintentionally. It’s honestly making me worried he’s making stuff up in his other content.
@@6idangle Tik reminds me of a friend of a friend who back in high school after getting through like Econ 101 and then doing some 'studying' on his on went full on anarcho-capitalist basically. All the signs are visible; calling Keynes a socialist (something the ancap/libertarian hard fringe likes to do a lot in order to claiim that 'mainstream economics' is socialist, which is essentially what Tik is poorly trying to do here), calling any transfers of income 'theft' (usually worded as 'taxation is theft', whereas Tik used the 'Theft, redistribution of wealth', which is just as wrong) etc.
I could go on but basically it's common for this to happen to people when they start getting into economics studying online without any academic education in the field. It usually goes into 1 of 2 extremes: either the person starts from the assumption that the root of all evil is capitalism and thereby anything wrong anywhere is because of capitalism and becomes a modern day communist, or (such as was the case with said friend of a friend and Tik) the person starts from the assumption that the root of all evil is socialism and any problems in modern day societies are because of 'socialism' and becomes a ultra-libertarian or an anarcho capitalist.
It's very understandable with younger people, especially when the internet is so effective at pushing confirmation bias, but I expected someone like Tik to understand better, but evidently not. Look at his 'sources' list up above in the pinned comment: not a single book by Keynes or Keynesian economists. What's his source for the 'Keynes was a socialist' -remark: TH-cam comments in his other video, he outright says so in this video.
Yup, that's massive confirmation bias at work, and enough of a reason for me to stop following this channel really, because I already witnesses this 'everthing's socialism and the world would be a perfect capitalist paradise if they just stopped stealing by taxes' -nonsense (btw, the ancap argument is precisely the same as the communist argument: 'real communism/capitalism has never been tried!') with said high school friend, I have no desire to watch a grownass intelligent man fall through the same nonsense.
how is keynes a liberal if his theory is adapted to totalitarianism? Keynes himself said this
@@6idangle How liberal is the state if it demands X portion of your lifeblood? X% portion of your sweat and struggle, it takes for itself and uses on increasingly useless shit. Keynes was the best disguised socialist ever, and the best propagandized for.
Tyler Potts Never heard of a liberal who supported strong state intervention.
That two girls joke was on point! Great video as always
Haha I'm glad someone got that :)
@@TheImperatorKnight Really dates it though, and I suspect some of the youngsters won't pick that one up.... and I AM NOT EXPLAINING!
Man, I was chuckling for a good 5 mins.
@Tuning3434 yeah I'm not explaining it either... I can remember the day I say a "Grandma reacts to 2 girls 1 cup" video, and was like "what's that?" ... and then... "oh... oh... OOOOOHHHH .... AWAHSHDASHDIAKHDKJASHDKJAH!?!?!?"
I had never heard of "2 girls 1 cup" before this video, thank you TIK 🤢🤮. Hitler would have approved of such an act, if rumours are true.
Hey TIK couple of things:
I) I think you are mixing a wide range of view into one vague stereotype. For example All Academics are Marxists + Marxists deny the Holocaust would mean that the majority of published books deny the Holocaust which is not the case.
It maybe that a lot of academics tend to be left, but there is no such thing as a big Marxist conspiracy.
To underline my point: Im studying at maybe The most left Uni in Germany and the things you've said in the video were all mentioned in my introduction to Nationalsocialism. Although I admit they were not directly formed into a giant HITLER WAS SOCIALIST. But the facts are on the table for everyone and you can't explain the success of the Naziregime without its socialist policies.
II) I think you are simplifying NS ideology to fit your argumentation. Because the disapproval of the liberal capitalist world market is heavily linked with a general disapproval of modernity. Especially modern culture as in art or architecture. III)Also were the Nazis less focused on the socialization of the economy in general. They were only a few great efforts to create large directly controlled companies, the question is whether the regime felt that it had the power to do so. Instead was the acquisition of resources the focus of the wars in the east. Because resources rather than trade were in the minds of Nazi ideology the key to wealth.
IV) You really should get of you high horse when it comes to the supposed greatness of capitalism. I won't say that it's inherently bad, you should remember that most big bankers after the collapse of 2007 came to the central banks pleading for as much state intervention as they could get to save their asses. So much to the great ability of the markets to regulate themselves.
It's a false dilemma fallacy and a straw-man argument.
@@arsarma1808 a through analysis
Point IV is s good one . It's not so much socialism critique as the capitalism is right. .. it's a very childish take . One can argue all the theory stuff but the bias is inexcusable. Of course the Nazis ran socialist style policies as long as you were ethnically correct...which is kinda of the crux of the think. Racial theory and Nazi was a BIG THING which is absent from other economic theories thou not in practice.
The free market is responsible for exploitation of limited world resources for private gain, promotes inequality and human society seems to be running headlong into oblivion. Saying that, socialism never seems to have any answers either except for mass murdering it's subjects and ends up with a ruling class of it's own and is equally eistructive to our beautiful planet. Unless we wake up soon we're doomed, to quote Private Fraser in Dad's Army.
Hitler: a racial-class-ist
Marx: a classial-race-ist
I hate how this channel has become a new-right mouthpiece.
Since TIK is giving the authoritarian socialists a kicking the bus nutters are assuming 'my enemies enemy is my friend'.
I always assumed that rationality was the opposite of extremism, but what do I know?
@@pd4165 Not even saying everything he said is wrong. Nazism obviously shares similarities with Communism. But to create a conspiracy about the universities and to claim they are holocaust deniers is lunacy.
3saricman3 His university claims are no lunacy theories. There is a huge problem with far left academics teaching false history in school. That is why when you see Antifa out in the street the majority are students and teachers who radicalized them.
Admiral Kolchak sure 🤥
It’s entertaining watching capitalist accuse Fascism of being left wing socialism, and Marxists accuse Fascism of being capitalism. It’s almost like there was aspects of both capitalism and socialism in the ideology making it a third position if you will. But nah I'm sure lumping everything into 2 economic systems isn't a simplistic world view or anything...
You do realize that Stalin was promoting that idea to the Soviet people as propaganda against a geopolitical enemy? Why would he in his right mind tell them that him and their mortal enemy were in anyway equal?
@@MrStasyan2013 Good point, i never thought of it that way
It is interesting watching the left claim they aren't.... Adolf forgot more about Socialism than your Professors knew and he says they were as the only difference was who was allowed into the party.... Sad when primary sources are ignored so you can pretend differently...
Yes, it's unfortunate that it's just two groups trying to shove more dead bodies in front of each other. It's hard to classify since it had elements of both and major differences with both.
Was fascism socialist? Yes, in the sense that any collectivist regime is socialist.
Was fascism Socialist? Hell no. Not an egalitarian bone in his body, this Hitler guy.
dude, at the very end od the argument there indeed are 2 options. Freedom or enslavement, life or death. Now, if you want to feel comfortable and believe in endless relativism then go and wake up someone in your family who is dead, tell them that there is a "third way"
Good points. And the strangest thing of it: all the information were in front of literally everyone in the whole time...
that's why we already knew
OK, this is phenomenal!! I must begin incorporating your videos into my kid's schooling. This is the kind of historical details that must be shared. In almost every case the version of history that is being taught in public (State) schools fails to make sense. Hence, the need to simply teach things like Hitler was crazy. I seriously wish there was a way to express how much I like these videos. Well done, Sir!!!
I must admit this worries me a tad, I am not sure how many curriculums argue that Hitler was outright insane pre-war, make sure you take a look for yourself. If you can always encourage your kid to use multiple sources, cross-check them and to avoid biases. Make sure that if you can argue for a point, you understand the points against it.
All he does is giving his opinion here. It's not objective what so ever.
Two girls, one cup - thats a very nice touch, mate 😎
Hungry bitches. That's the real name of the two girls one cup film for anyone who wants to see the most disgusting thing ever
thank god i only had to hear about it and didnt stumble across it
On the subject of Keynes and Marx - Keynes flirted a bit with Marxism in his early years, but eventually concluded it was nonsense. Their was a tendency during the 20's and 30's to associate Keynes with Marxism, because of Keynes's critiques of capitalism as it was then defined on the left. Keynes's "The End of Laisse Faire" and "General Theory" both had some fairly strong critiques of capitalism as a system.
That said, Keynes was most emphatically NOT a marxist or socialist. He believed that free markets were efficient, and allocated capital to its best (most efficient) uses. The problem was, it would not allocate enough money to capital, leading to a slowing economy - a problem caused by the tendency of the Rich to save more than they consumed, which caused money to leak out of the economy. This so called "paradox of thrift" meant that as economies grew, more and more wealthy people would under-consume, and since one mans consumption was another mans income, this would lead to rising levels of unemployment. So the great depression was NOT a temporary downturn, it was the inevitable result of consumption rising slower than income.
Keynes solution was to increase government spending - primarily through deficit spending. The deficits (in the form of government bonds) would soak up the excess spending, and turn it into increased consumption and investment. This would in turn stimulate the economy, and restore confidence and employment. His famouse example was of 1 million unemployed workers digging holes in the morning, and another million filling them in in the afternoon. The work is pointless, but the wages they get will spent, creating (useful) employment and goods for others. Of course, he did not advocate wasteful spending, he mearly asserted that even if the government was as dumb and wasteful has free market economists said it was (and Keynes had as dim a view of politicians as any of us) it would still be beneficial.
When Keynes died in 1946, his theory was still a real mess, it wasn't for another decade until other economists (the kaldor/Hicks synthesis) were able to formalize it and straighten out the worst of Keynes' many mistakes, and he made a lot. I am not a Keynesian economist myself, but it is unfair to lump Keynes in with Marx.
Ohh bonus point, since I am much more of Micro guy than a Macro guy, I like to analyze these things at the ground level, so....
Q. What was the main difference between the Nazis and the Commies?
A. The Nazis had better uniforms
or...
Q. What is the main difference between the Nazis and the Commies?
A. Nobody goes around saying that Nazism was a fine system in principle, it just was poorly implemented by Hitler.
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I don't understand why people WOULD lump Marx with any of the names above. Marx wasn't an economist. Psychology didn't even exist in Marx's time as a formal science. How the hell could he attempt to quantify human desires and needs as most economists do?
I think I should go out, meet people and socialize a bit
the incel TIK vs the chad Potential History
Glockenbeat In that case i think you are a socialist then (or a nazi because thats basically the same) LMAO
Lol stfu commie
Took me a minute to get that....
Throw a virgin on the fire for me 🤣
Truth doesn't care about your feelings. Stay strong, TIK!
Which is why it's too bad that shrinking markets theory is true, but it causes the man such severe feelings.
@@imperialnerd7026 let me ask you three questions:
Is Supply and Demand real?
Is the planet Earth infinitely large?
Can you generate things like steel and limestone by wishing real hard, or do they have to come out of the ground?
@@imperialnerd7026 I'm not in the mood to kill the easter bunny and santa claus in the same day, but the economic validity of mining space for earth has been outright fabricated. File under T for total bullshit.
I was also taught about the Shrinking Markets theory in economics class too but the teacher was pretty clear about not being correct.
How clear was she that that concept originated in socialism? lol
The Hitler quote at 7:40 says: "If the social programme of the movement consisted in eliminiating personality and putting the multitude in its place, then National Socialism would be corrupted with the poison of Marxism..."
This sounds like a streak of individualism to me. How does this fit the claim of nazism being collectivist?
zxmar05 because collectivism is what happens when governments do things to groups of people instead of individuals. So I guess Donald Trump is a huge socialist for locking up brown-skinned asylum seekers.
Mein Kampf isn't a reasoned argument; in many ways it's a self-contradictory rant. The book is a great window into the mind of the author... but that doesn't mean it will make sense.
@@sillypuppy5940 Just like the ramblings of an uneducated moron TIK.
@@lukebruce5234 "uneducated" how would you define educated? clearly you were indoctrinated and not educated...
@@lewistaylor2858 Educated as having a degree in history which TIK clearly doesn't. He is hobbyist wannabe historian.
I knew I was in for a rough time when you said Keynes was a Marxist. Such a disappointing follow-up to the previous video, which I found thoughtful and persuasive.
1) Keynes was a capitalist with social-liberal/social-democratic leanings, not a socialist. FDR's administration was heavily influenced by Keynesianism, and he never gets called a socialist in this. TIK really seems to have a problem with oversimplifying ideological labels.
2) TIK draws a false dichotomy between individual private ownership and state ownership. Collectively owned economic organizations exist. Ever heard of a credit union? Hell, where do you draw the line between labor unions acting as agents of workers under capitalism and syndicalist unions advocating socialism?
3) "Goebels's Propaganda Ministry, also known as the BBC." Um, WHAT?!? Since when does BBC say whatever Theresa May tells them to? Or did TIK mean the BBC is too leftist? In which case, how does BBC being leftist under a center-right government make it state propaganda? I know this is meant as a joke, but it really just serves to highlight TIK's pro-capitalist bias.
4) I will not contest your point that some Marxists deny the Holocaust, as I am not an expert on every single current Marxist thinker. Still, TIK paints in extremely broad brushstrokes here, as if every Marxist agrees with the crazed denialism of a few.
Now, I'm not going to say that Nazism was capitalist in nature. I'm under no illusion that their "privatization" came as advertised, and of course "private" corporations under the Nazi regime could be commanded to serve the state at a moment's notice. If "state control of the economy" is how you define socialism, then National Socialism is a form of socialism. The thing is, nobody can seem to agree on a definition of socialism, in part because there are so many different ideologies with that label. Regardless, even if Nazism and Marxism-Leninism have important similarities, that doesn't mean both are left-wing. I want to stress that TIK's presentation of the political spectrum is EXTREMELY unorthodox; usually, left and right are about social equality and inequality, respectively.
(Broadly speaking: the far-right wants major institutions, such as the state, to enforce inequality; the center-right thinks inequality is acceptable, or desirable, when it results from voluntary market interactions; the center-left dislikes inequality and seeks to reduce it, by various means such as the welfare state, without abandoning private ownership of economic organizations; and the far-left seeks to minimize inequality by replacing market capitalism with a variety of proposed alternatives.)
On the traditional political spectrum, it might make sense to call Nazism a form of far-right socialism because it both collectivizes the economy (in a certain sense) and enforces social inequality among racial and ethnic groups. However, I hope anyone reading this giant wall of text can understand why I think calling Nazism left-wing is kinda ridiculous. I'm not angry at you if your politics lean a bit right of center, but let's please try a little harder to understand the distinctions between different perspectives that disagree with our own.
Nicely put
How about his claim _"not aknowledging Hitler was a socialist means you are a holocaust denier"_ ? Yeah this was a trash video. I'd call it an excercise at cherrypicking at best. Some counter-arguements to his claims can be found in the same quotes he used but he somehow totally missed them. I lost count of how many times I found myself facepalming while watching this. And I say this as someone who despises leftist politics as well as 99.9999% of all socialists.
The Nazis never have been considered "right wing", they are and always will be a leftist leaning organization, that killed people. Hitler said this much in his writings. Don't change his words to suit your needs.
Also, arguments from etymology usually lead to nonsense anyway, but they're particularly silly when you get your etymology wrong. Latin "publicum" does not mean "state," it means exactly the same thing as the English "public". "Res publica" was used in Latin to refer to what we would call a state, but, just as in English, there were many uses of the term "public" that were not related to the state - "res publica" was not a synonym for "publicum". Also, the ancient Roman conception of the state was different in many respects from out post-Westphalian conception of the state. I won't try and describe all the differences here - you really need a semester or two in historical political science at a university for that - but suffice it to say that the ancient Romans would have regarded your conflation of the "res publica" with a group of workers murdering their employer and appropriating his factory as both ludicrous and insane.
Could you do a video on the UK's economy post WW2? I'd like to see your ideas about the post war consensus, BBC, NHS and how the UK economy could be improved! Great vid by the way, it's worrying to see so many socialists still struggling to maintain faith despite the overwhelming arguments against their religion.
Long term viewer here.
Just wanted to answer your question "which private companies marketed the holocaust?", I think that one could reasonably answer IG Farben to this as they benefited massively from the slave labour / extermination program in the east. Most obvious example being Auswitch. This lead them to steadfastly support the Hitler government to the last.
I think likewise all big manufacturers of arms (like Rheinmetall) used slave labour to different degrees. This promise of unrestricted use of disposable labour was a big selling point of supporting the nazi government.
IG Farben didn't sell the _idea_ of the Holocaust. They produced what they were told to produce.
Your channel is the best thing I found on TH-cam in DECADES.
TH-cam hasn't existed for decades. Only 1.8 decade.
What i hate about my government (can you guess which country) that it's too socialist with the economic policies and too fascist with social policies. How we are still a 'democracy' is beyond me.
India
Fascism is Socialism.
The UK.
What's your source on Keynes being a [edited:] socialist/believing in shrinking markets?
What's your source on 'Marxist' influence of academia, specifically economics?
Would you consider someone such as Bismarck a socialist?
What references are you using for your interpretation of the New Deal?
Do understand what the respective causes were of the the 1920 market crash, the great depression and the 2008 crash?
What options do you think the Wiemar government had to pay off the Versailles treaty other than printing money?
his video starts to fall apart when he starts talking economics it was so funny but so sad because its becoming just another alt-right yt channel that people are starting to hate.
@@liphrium9858 Do you mind explaining how someone who is anti-socialism, anti-authoritarian, anti-holocaust denialism, anti-nazism is alt-right?
@@AetherWorlds because like every alt-right youtuber he groups all events and groups of people together and says your leftist because i say you are. No.
@@liphrium9858 That's not what alt-right means, you are doing exactly what you claim he is doing by grouping him together with people and saying your alt-right?
In my personal experience as a history major at two state schools in Michigan, I was taught that the Nazis were socialist. Keep up the good work TIK. I disagree with some of the points you made in this video, but I am glad you made them.
(Citino was one of my professor's!)
Jorrinn That's a very rare position for a teacher to take, while also for him to be employed by any school. I'm quite amazed.
good think your personal experience is not the basis for academical research
Historical facts > Your feelings
Damn, I wish my professors had been like yours. I was taught Hitler wasn't a socialist.
Also would have liked Citino as a lecturer haha
"Shrinking markets" - Oh, if only Mises was there.
A great discussion of the spectrum between Tyranny and Liberty is in the book "The Hobbit Party" by Witt and Richards - it talks about Tolkien's philosophy as a backdrop to a discussion of Tyranny and Liberty.
19:20 I always loved those types of diagrams because somehow when you get more freedom loving than Ron Paul you end up at Hitler...
isnt that amazing. the very people who want a system that would preclude anything like Hitler Stalin Lenin or any other totalitarian murder regime must somehow be the path to the totalitarian murder regime. I dont personally believe Ron Pauls Ideas can work but everyone should have a healthy distrust of giving the state more power. It has never been small private groups that have been able to pull off massive holocausts. it has always been those who hold absolute power, the sort of power you get when you take power away from the individual and give it to 'the people' 'the community' which is nothing more or less than the state.
individuals can commit murder, even a mass shooting here or there. the state can murder an entire people as they demonstrated with the Nazis, The USSR, Maoist China, and the US towards the American Indian. Give the state the power to do whatever it wants and it usually finds the simplest solution to a problem is to kill those who represent the problem.
The view from the bottom of the horseshoe is that both legs are at the top. Verticality on this model means something like "how pissed off are you at moderates?" which is, of course, all that most moderates really care about.
How can two different types of Socialism be polar opposites, unless you limit your political spectrum to include ONLY Socialism?
Global(ist) Socialism, or National(ist) Socialism... they are STILL Socialism... and thus CANNOT be opposites if anything else (such as Capitalism) is allowed.
Only capitalism (economics) and preserving the rights of the individual (politics) can truly be polar opposites of ANY AND EVERY form of Socialism.
The attempt to place the Nazis on the Right end of the political spectrum is nothing more than an attempt to demonize anyone who is not socialist.
I believe that ONE reason that the Socialist Left tends to eventually degenerate into blatant evil... what almost EVERYONE would agree IS evil...
ex - Mao's Great Leap Forward, Stalin's famine, Hitler...
They BEGIN with a major character FLAW... the BELIEF that their "need" gives them the RIGHT to TAKE what they want/need (steal from others).
Indeed, Karl Marx's famous quote exemplifies this:
*"From Each According to Their Ability... "*
Then, compound that primary character flaw with another... the WILLINGNESS to use the FORCE of the State to take what they "need".
These two things combined thus ATTRACT people with a desire to not only HAVE power... but USE that power... AGAINST other people.
Thus, Socialism is a MAGNET for people like Stalin, Mao, and Hitler.
(Note, I'm not saying that it doesn't also attract other types of people.)
Further, because those like Stalin, Mao, and Hitler have both the desire for power and willingness to use it... to extreme degrees... they will inevitably end up in control of the Socialist movement... because they will exterminate their opponents/rivals within the party... exactly as Hitler and Stalin did.
(Note to OP/Philip - this is an agreement with your original post.)
"You don't know what you're talking about" is a great phrase you should ironically make tshirts with it on them
1) 5:23, 6:28 TIK, paraphrased: "Socialism in practice is when the workers rise up and kill their (jewish) factory *governor* and create a factory *government"*
2) 6:42 TIK: "Nazi Germany was Socialist"
3) Modus Ponens from 1) and 2): "In Nazi Germany, the people rose up, deposed their factory governors and created local independent sovereign factory governments"
4) Premise: Nazi Germany had thousands of factories.
5) Modus Ponens from 3) and 4): Nazi Germany was a collection of thousands of completely sovereign factory-level government states.
Yeah... There's not knowing what one is talking about, and then there's being so completely illogical that it takes a 9-year-old's level of intelligence to laugh off as completely bonkers.
History should be fact-based, and not be confused with personal opinions...
Bruh actually your content leaves me speechless. Not because I am a socialist, which I have, thank god, also never been, but because it is very good researched and it provokes deep thoughts, which have only rarely been triggered yet in my history study. Keep it up! Your material is very good for further research!
Race or Class doesn't make any difference for the victims that belong to the wrong race or class.
That's a good way of putting it
@Erich Kirk changing the class in their eyes would be the same as becoming an honorary member of the master race. And that's on top of few people being down with getting robbed by the mob because they were of the wrong class.
@Erich Kirk Really? What stupidity of all those French, Russians, Ukrainians, Chinese, Cambodians in past history that, oh so easily, didn't simply change their class, so they could save themselves.
@@steenkigerrider5340 Dude noone is defending or advocating for that.
@Erich Kirk Tell it to those who died in cultural revolution
Jesus!!! ... I didn't saw this ... ...
How I do to un-saw this video?
so the short summary is that he viewed resources as finite, and the more industrial nations in the game, aka players, meant less resources to go around.
Which is still true, apart from efficiency. Advances in technology mean we can do more with less. Still, the Capitalist Vs Socialist argument is probably redundant since we are still rapidly depleting the Earth's resources.
You really, really shouldn't try to summerize something that you clearly didn't understand.
The shrinking markets have nothing to do with finite ressources.
(Capitalism knows that ressources are finite, which is why it works)
The idea of shrinking markets is counter intuitive.
5:15 “When two girls share one cup, now that’s real socialism”...I would have to agree. It’s repulsive.
Probably the most important video ever made on TH-cam!
Yet, it will get denied and discredited.
They're already trying... but I've not made it easy on them
Or maybe it will get denied because it spreads misinformation? Nah must be because people just can't handle the Truth (tm).
@@Fragenzeichenplatte BUT DUDE WE GET INFORMATION FROM TH-cam AND THE INTERNET IS ALWAYS RIGHT.
Seriously, this is borderline conspiracy theory and fanboys
Hitler was a "socialist" who believed in private enterprise, private ownership, and corporate power.
This guy is a krank. His claims;
- Keynes is only "apparently" an economist.
- Thomas Sowell's polemic is apparently more than just A Priory guess work. I must've missed that when I read it.
- There's a vast marxist plot in academia to claim that national socialism isn't socialism, which is why economic history isn't a popular subject.
I remember another video where he spent a lot of time in front of a white board, extrapolating macro from micro. But before he did this he alluded that it wasn't possible, and then brushed that aside... and went on to extrapolate macro from micro...
@Hydroginn1 I'm sorry I don't follow. Who dost thou'eth accuse be a blasphemer?
I disagree. I watched nearly all of his videos and they all make sense to me and are referenced. What I heard from him corresponds with what I learned at my classes at the university.
He did not suggest that there is a Marxist plot to hide some historical facts. He is suggesting that people sympathetic to Marxism have an incentive not to equate Hitler’s Germany to socialism since they don’t want countries they like compared to Nazis.
And the same thing happens with people sympathetic to Hitler and Nazis. They say Hitler wasn’t a socialist because they don’t want to admit Hitler’s economy and government is basically socialism since these people view any expression of socialism as an evil.
@@StopFear
He did I'm afraid.
He claimed there was an academic reticence to accept Hitler was a socialist. Not only that, but an attempted cover up of socialist policies enacted by the nationalsozialistische deutsche arbeiter partei. He claimed there was a reason for this. He claimed Marxism was the reason for this. He even showed a picture of Eric Hobsbawm to illustrate the point.
He was very specific about it. It was the point of the video. He also talked generically about Marxists too, but that's not all he did.
This contradicts my experience of A level history. In one class whether Rohm or Hitler was the truer socialist was one of the reasons discussed in class for Rohms assassination.
Political sectionalism is well understood to be common. Identity based Pedant arguments abound as they do with sectarian arguments with different religious factions. I.e Calvinists claim Catholics will go to hell etc etc. This is not news to people. It's also true for liberals/libertarians. There are those who claim Milton Friedmans ideas aren't "true capitalism" because he supports a central bank. And they want to "end the Fed" & "end fiat money". This is a well worn feature of crazy people to accuse others of lacking purity.
The whole premise of this video is silly. It hinges on the idea that the Nazis being socialists is either news to people or offensive to socialists. There's no reason for that to be the case, just as there's no reason for Christians to deny the faith of people who bomb abortion clinics.
I won't address your other points as they evade and deflect from my original ones.
It was indeed socialism
*National
@@boggy.subtitulos of the socialism kind
I'm a free-market girl and I like your videos even more now that you get into the economics of things
*Of Course you DeMonic HitLer Loving TrumpVotingBitch!!!!*
Free market is best
Free market system combined with some touches of reasonable regulation IS THE BEST ECONOMIC SYSTEM EVER MADE.
Norway
@@TheNikolas995 Possibly. Yeah. I think so quite too as well.
@@TheNikolas995 Sideshow based on minerals consumption by more developed and diversified economies
Not much competition though is there.
@@wallonmcwoolworth819 Again most of the countries now are economically fascist!
I find it a bit weird that the western countries would allow the ''marxist'' historians to write history. Because in theory they are capitalistic countries are they not? Most weirdly the USA who dominated the world after the war wasn't run by marxist, they even had a red scare so why is the history about hitlers economy and ideology of socilization repressed? It is a bit contradictory in my mind that a country that hates marxism and socialism would simultaniously let history be written to hide the socialist influence on hitler. Am i missing some dots in this puzzle if so wich ones?
On another note: this history shows that people are repeatedly fed up with capitalism and have tried in various ways to alter, replace or break it. Doesnt this show us that the system of capitalism isnt that good if people get constantly fed up with it? It seems to me that capitalism without some checks on it will create unequality that can spiral out of control, even with those checks and balances it seems to be opposed to its own curtailing to protect people, the enviroment and the weak. It seems to me the flaw in capitalism is constant infighting between greedy people and protections that are wanted by the mass of people. Can we do better than capitalism?? I think we do because we already live in a mixed economy(capitalistic/socialistic) in the western world.
Yes, you are indeed 'missing some dots in the puzzle' - you're being lied to by right-wing nutjobs who honestly believe Western society is under threat from an 'invisible Marxist enemy'.
Very Nazi-like views as far as I'm concerned, but you seem well-informed enough to reject them - bravo!
The People tend to get a lot more fed up with the alternatives when they try them. In reality any functioning economy will be a mixture of approaches, the problem is when things veer too far towards one thing, which ideologies of whatever type do because whatever it is they believe in, they always think more of it will be better. Taking Marxism as the most ideologically/intellectual communalism, it is as a theory entirely stuck with one explanation for everything; class struggle. Economically, socially, everything. The terrible result at the moment in the West is that Marxist beliefs in social science have explained every nuance of human interaction as class struggle (between races, between genders, between sexual orientations) and hence the ever more clownish policies we are forced to live under as the theory cannot explain reality, but its believers just think more (social) Marxism will fix the problems they perceive.
It's always about people going too far. The hardest thing to argue for is the middle ground, because it gets dragged towards the extremes beneath your feet.
@@ian_b A very nuanced response. I dont know if i agree with the premise that the ''centrist'' position is always the best as you imply but its for sure better to be reasonable and dont go off the deep end at either side of the spectrum. If the overton window is to far to one or the other side it is sensible to try to pull it back but that can only be done if you are popular with the people. The other option is controling the window like an emperor would with sheer authoritarian power but that way has shown itself to be utterly ineffective and very costly(e.g. civil wars and such)
I do still think that a mixed economy like in the Nordic countries is the best solution for a economy and society. In a way those models are kind of centrist to me but to allot of people those countries are to far to the left. In summary as you said the center moves around allot depending on circumstances. If you look at data concerning happiness and standards of living those countries rank at the top of the world constantly and it indicates that those systems are aparently the best we have at this moment in time
Marxism is also mostly a critique of capitalism and not really a guide to do it better as i understand guys like lenin filled in the ''ideas'' to create a better society. I have just a cursory level of knowledge on the subject so im not really convinced of it beeing better. But i dislike the whole idea of this binary choice between capitalism or socialism i prefer to look at the individual subjects on their own merrit. I do like the idea of worker owned coops to be at least allowed and made possible to form more easy than they are now able to.
Now I know why I watch you. Always well thought out and backed up with the receipts! Great job
Always good videos even when I don't always agree.
I don't really see what is wrong with having public police, firefighter, road, or railway services.
Comparing public roads to Fritz Todd ( unsure of spelling) seems a bit too far.
Keep on the good videos tik. I specially liked your oil crisis one.
"I don't really see what is wrong with having public police, firefighter, road, or railway services."
If you haven't seen them, there's two links in the description to videos of Hazlitt's and Sowell's books, Hazlitts explains the problem with them. Now, on their own, they're not too bad. The problem is, they're funded by theft, and we can't afford them. This is something else you may want to see usdebtclock.org/
How do you know when some one is lying to you : pejorative use of language . His equating " taxation " and "theft "
Taxation is theft. By definition. Not all theft is unjustified since ancapistan is conquered by a state about 10 secconds after it's founded.
Shard S Taxation is only theft if you get nothing in return
@@jonathangriffiths2499 false. If I Rob you at gunpoint for money, then later I give you a product. I still stole from you (made worse is it's not a 1:1 I'll steal 20$ from you and give you 5$ of stuff you don't choose back). With the exception of military/courts and MAYBE police/infrastructure (I'm willing to bend on the roads because moving tanks around is a part of the military) it's an unnecessary expenditure on the government's part and therefore likely unjust.
So was FDR a socialist as well
What about Lee Yuan You socialist as well as Singapore which has free healthcare and State schools
So should we have private armies as well
Was the US wrong to take control of the economy during the War like the take over of the car industry
Was Eisenhower a Socialist for building the Interstate highway system
@K yeah, and have you noticed how policemen have become armed thugs who kill at a drop of a hat with near impunity?
Yes to all.
K the police and fire departments are a result of capitalism, not the cause of it. And a lot of townships dint have firefighters paid by the state. There are a whole lot of volunteers.
Ashan Mendis Ike didn't build the interstate system, private contractors bid on the projects and built them. The government doesn't build or produce jack, only private industry does. In Hitler's Nazi Germany, the state took control of those industries and Nazi leaders ran them. Quite the opposite in a capitalist economy.
Ashan Mendis and yes, F D R wad a socialist, his new deal bs made the depression worse, not better.
Horrible and extremely biased video - calling Keynes some type of revolutionary socialist is just absurd. I don’t think you have even the slightest grasp of economic theory.
You are teaching me political science class in five minutes faster than my college political science class at 15 credit hours. I want my time back.
Taking Hitler's words at face value is your problem right here
Who said I'm doing that? See the pinned comment for multiple sources
Who cares what this boob thinks. Hey marshaln you're a boob
April Fools day is late this year
What is an inter-Nazi?
Is it kust a euphemism for somebody who doesn't happen to agree with you?
The problem with you spouting facts and explaining history in a rational way is the people are goi g to say you’re pro-nazi. That’s just the way the world is.
The information you present is both interesting and relevant and it could have been a good way to start an important discussion. However, you are pushing a certain picture based on your personal worldview, which undermines all the research you've done.
First of all, socialism is not a binary ideology with the only "right way". There are various ideas under the same label and often enough the difference inside of a certain idelogy is more pronounced, than the differences between differently labeled political positions. Socialism is no exception to that rule: it is not only represented by the people, who see the government as a top-down structure - there are socialists, who call for the down-up system, dare I say, there even are socialists who are okay with the right to own property. I do not believe you didn't know about that, because you tend to have a really good preparation for your videos. Therefore, by mixing all the socialists together under the evil imagery you are being intellectually dishonest, which is very ironic, considering you are calling out (and rightfully so) left-wing historians for the exact same thing.
Another thing you do, is that for some reason you are trying to assert that capitalism is good, by proving that socialism is bad. The problem is, that even if you prove that the socialism sucks, there is no way to jump from this conclusion to the idea, that something else is good, because it would be a formal fallacy - there is no dichotomy in the political landscape. I do not understand if you are purposefully using one of the demagogy techniques to push your personal bias, or if it is just an accidental mistake you've made. Regardless of your intentions, it comes out as the propaganda, even if you didn't mean it to be, and it is absolutely clear, that a lot of people are going to attack you only because of this, without even watching other parts of the video.
Personally, I am very disappointed, not because you have a different point of view, but because after laying down facts, you have decided to impose your opinion in a fraudulent manner. Whenever a historian discredites himself ones, it discredites all of the work in the public eye. Whenever a historian starts to mix together facts and his personal opinion without a clear separation, there is no more trust.
Just to point it out, I do not want to start a discussion if one ideology is superior to another, I do not question the sources that are being referenced. I am not arguing the opinion - I am pointing out a fallacy in the way this opinion has been presented.
I fully agree with this. Having good sources and evidence doesn't count for a whole lot if your argument goes far beyond that evidence and enters into logical fallacy territory.
The information you present is both interesting and relevant and it could have been a good way to start an important discussion. However, you are pushing a certain picture based on your personal worldview, which undermines all the research you've done.
Exactly. Tik should have stuck to tactics and strategy and stayed out of politics. His success has breeded silliness and a pushing of his own narrative unfortunately.
Calling people that don't agree with you 'Inter-Nazis' is sinking very low as well. You serm to have many patting you on the back for it and maybe it's time to have a look in the mirror and review some of the things you have said. Do you really believe all these people commenting have an agenda against you? I've been an avid history and in particular WWII (and causes and repercussions of) follower for over 40 years and found a lot of your earlier stuff interesting. It's a real pity you have started to push your narrative so hard though and you don't seem to realise it.
You have left yourself open now to a very one eyed channel which instead of being informative and interesting history will lead to just another name calling political mess of a channel with a terrible train wreck of a comment section that is all your own making.
Unsubbed.
"there even are socialists who are okay with the right to own property" - then they're not socialists and should seek a different ideology
"by mixing all the socialists together under the evil imagery" - it's only fair, considering how all the socialists who seized control put murderers in power for some reason
Blablablabla, shut up commie.
I get the point you are making (not being an economic specialist..or, more importantly , not interested in these subjects..yuch)..but all the hammering on socialism and socialists, make you seem the capitalists..and especially the UNREGULATED capitalists seem to be the archangels for humanity.
I am sure if the capitalists can do whatever they like< then children would still be working from the age of 10, we would have 7 or 6 days workweek of 12 hours a day, and all men would be laid off by the time they reach 35 becoz the capitalists will find more cheaper and more hard working laborers elsewehere in ever desolate places..
Moderate and competent regulation is the answer..but as in all isms, once a force gets the upper hand, there is no stopping it gaining more and more control over society.
Power corrupts, whether it is socialism, communism, capitalism... it is a human thing..
You are the capitalist.
now go regulate yourself
I've been beginning to wonder wether or not that phrase...or adage I'm assuming, is actually correct. Is it truth or an assumed narrative a lot of people like to repeat?
What if you meet someone nearly incorruptible, with power who didn't abuse it, wouldn't you start to wonder if maybe....it just isn't true?
Although, it also seems to me such people tend to avoid gaining power. Leaving...the unqualified to grab it.
Ancap memes time
It's weird to me that a historian is telling me socialism is evil because there's a body count when I've learned from other historians that both capitalist and socialist societies have a body count.
Hey tik, i got a question for you. i heard you talked about in one of your videos that nazi germany had some food shortages before the war. how big of a impact had those food shortages?
That was the previous video, link: th-cam.com/video/PQGMjDQ-TJ8/w-d-xo.html I gave a few answers in that video, and some examples. Will be doing a follow up soon and I'll do my best to show you how bad it was.
I can report from my parents about this question: 1.) my father told me taht during WWII there was alwasy enough food available but from winter 1945/46 unitl 1947/48 there was terrible hunger. 2.) may mother' s father owned a food store in Silesia. Both my mother and my grandparents told me that until 1945 there was always enough food available.
@@TheImperatorKnight thanks
@@berndf.k.1662 were they from germany? Cause all the food germany captured went straight to germany and not their occupied lands
@Crystal Dreams its the Day that Judea declares war on germany. Are you trolling?
Loving the unbiased commentary on a very complex topic, with no attempt to over simplify it and explain it in one's own simplistic perspective in a patronising attempt to make oneself seem like the only smart kid in the class
You are a Godsend for this stuff. I studied economics in college and can say socialism doesn't work.
Ah yes, “Two Girls One Cup”, a piece of socialist literature that is just as important as Marx’s “Communist Manifesto”.
Which Marx? Groucho? 😂
If feces was a book it’s definitely the Communist Manifesto
I mean, both the cup and the book have the same contents inside of it - just one of them is sugar-coated by fancy wording, while the other is the more obvious, stinking excrement.
-Market saturation is applied to both socialistic and capitalistic economies
-Keynes was a capitalist and anti-marxist
-The only system dominating in media is capitalism. All they do within last 30 years (while the only big socialistic power is dead) is saying that Soviets are worse than Nazism. You can hardly find something opposite, feminism left agenda and US left-retards don't count.
22:00 -Lager Kurtenhof
22:49 - because it is you who should not pay for your studies, not the teachers not getting paid for their job
17:49 - the explanation is that the merge of capital and power is an ultimate goal of capitalism and a fair result of a free market. If we say that left-Soviet socialism and Nazi-right socialism is the same thing, then a developed capitalism is the same thing either. It's people working, and there is a dominating class/race. The differences are in wealth distribution and consumption cultures.
You damage your point a bit when you claim the feminist left doesn't count, seeing as it is the force driving the cultural winds toward hell throughout the western world.
This episode has convinced me that the man running this channel should run for public office. Doesn't have to be the UK, could be the US. Please respond to my comment here (I know its been 3 years but I'm just discovering) and I swear to God I will find a way!
13:40, lawyer here, this is just wrong, you are confusing the suspension of the weimars takings clause, with the inability to own any private property.
Article 153 like our 5th amendment says you can’t take private property for public use without either just compensation or for public use.
It doesn’t mean you can’t own private property buddy, an intrusive state does not amount to socialism tik.
An intrusive state that attempts to give the means of production to all workers regardless of race is a socialist one. However, such a state could be decentralized like anarchists would prefer.
You are making an elementary school level mistake of mixing up government intervention with socialism.
Hi TIK. I am so sorry that you had this kind of backlash for standing your ground. For me, who I am Italian, is no mystery that the far right derived from the left. The history of Mussolini is there to demonstrate that.
Your error, IMHO, is that you mix up extreme and corrupted forms of socialists with more benign, and true to the spirit, forms of socialism. In Italy in 50, 60, 70s and 80s the management of the country was basically socialist, with a strong state industry, high taxation, state schools etc. They were the best years of the country, ask every middle class Italian if they preferred that lifestyle or the current one. Similar was the situation in Scandinavia, and, with some distinction, in the ex Jugoslavia.
Hitler, Lenin, Mussolini, were dictators, hence not true to the spirit of Socialism.#
I hope nobody insults you for your ideas anymore. I don't share them, but everybody should be able to express them.
TL:DR "That wasn't real Socialism."
"true socialists" praise Fidel Castro (who had been a dictator, and now his brother is a dictator),
and they say that Cuba has the best political & economic system in the world
@@hermitoldguy6312 It was a benign form of socialism, an appropriate balance, IMHO
Most of the things you are talking about are widely accepted in my country(Poland) so I quess it's more like western view on Third Reich you are discussing. Maybe it has somewhat to do with fact that we were between two 'empires of evil'(a little bit of exaggeration, but not that much), and both in the end were very similiar to each other, especially in comparison to free, western capitalistic world. After then ~45 years of communism(oh sorry, communism was never really tried, so I'm gonna use word like 'real socialism) polish public and historians are pretty resistant to propaganda. Anyway, good video, it shows what socialism can lead to(not always though). Just please... don't sing next time :D
Przemysław Kozieł I wouldn’t say Eastern Europe is resistant to propaganda, given what goes on in Hungary nowadays.
propaganda is the convenient narrative, the white-washed history;
it exists in Poland too; most Poles don't even realise it
@@BrorealeK I was actually refering to my own country, not whole region BUT I also said 'pretty resistant', and that's not 'completely resistant'. Sorry, maybe it's just my poor english that started this misunderstanding. NOBODY is 100% resistant to propaganda, it's just living over 40 years in country filled with socialist propaganda that was extremely easy to identified made it easier to identify propaganda that's actually a little bit more subtle.
Przemysław Kozieł good perspective dude
And your English is spot on 💪🏽👍🏼
@@Kozas15 Funny seeing Poorlaks defending the degenerate ideology of liberalism which made Poland itself future-less. Just look at the fertility rate.
OUCH, TIK, that two girls comparison was a nightmare!!! 😝
But besides that, nice vid! 👍
So China would be closer to Nazi Germany than Soviet Union today? :thinking emoji here:
Yes
The burden is on TIK to explain how socialism results in the Holocaust, (see clip at 17:50, “how can Marxists explain how come the free markets cause the Holocaust?”)
Capitalism has a history of casually engaging in mass organized murder, such as the Irish Famine and Belgian colonization of the Congo.
Mass murder isn’t the monopoly of any one social organization. It’s a tool of control that can be used by any geopolitical system.
The bottom line is that German industry under Hitler remained in private hands, while the same wasn’t the case in the USSR. Hitler’s Reich didn’t own the means of production. Therefore it wasn’t a socialist form of government according to the standard definition of socialism quoted near the beginning of the clip.
It would be useful to change the format of a presentation such as this one and add another person capable of presenting a contrary view. That would help flesh out the issues more fully.
You have explained the difference very well . Socialism intends to murder whether it be the Jews or rich peasants as in Mao's China or Soviet Russia . 'Capitalism' does it as you say 'casually' it is not part of the ideology and so not inherent to it. It happens as a very rare by-product.
Outstanding video and history lesson, sir! Well done!
This is one of your best summations yet. There are a lot of nuggets to mine here.
How do you explain the tyrannical authoritarian capitalist regimes like Pinochet and Batista
Saints compared to Stalin, Mao or Hitler.
Pinochet’s Chile did have free markets and capitalism, but it did not have political freedom.
You could buy and sell as much as you wanted, but you could not criticise the government.
Adam Beasley capitalism is an economic and political system in which a country's trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit, rather than by the state.
You do realize Nazis were on the far-right? Oh, you missed that part.
they’re not far right dude they are far left
according to you? I think we can disregard your opinion.
The nazis were socialist the same way the Venetian republic were republican. Ideas and thoughts are not belonging always to one group. Two people can have the same view point on an issue and come away with radically different solutions to that issue.
I agree it isn’t entirely true that the Nazis were socialist, but I also think it’s just as disingenuous to claim the Nazis where capitalist as well. They where something different all together that cannot be defined by the black and white socialism or capitalism category.