The Dream SMP Has A Secret Villain...
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ม.ค. 2025
- It's not who you expect, trust me. This video gets wild. Thanks to Karl Jacobs posting a trailer for Tales from the SMP: The Maze on twitter the other day, the Dream SMP lore just got INSANELY interesting.
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This video is very similar to my video "The REAL Secret of the In Between.... | Tales From The SMP Theory"!
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Footage from:
@Karl (Karl Jacobs, the Tales from the SMP streams and the In Between segments)
@JackManifoldTV (Jack Manifold, the Joker)
@WilburPlays @TommyInnit (Wilbur Soot and TommyInnit, the L'Manberg revolution bits)
Incredible animation featured in the video is by @genesisfrog, you can find the animation here: • burning pile | jack ma...
Music:
Scott Buckley - Pathfinder, Goliath, Phoenix
Home Depot Orchestral Remix - Tutore
Initial subtitles: / princetobi_
Big thanks to / plantskid for helping me proofread this and providing a ton of interesting ideas!
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i like to think that dreamXD, an all-knowing god, does NOT know that jack is alive
i think jack defying the rules would make him invisible to dreamXD, prolly thinking hes dead even tho he aint
That’s very funny, can I snatch that?
I love this
The only thing stronger than DreamXD is the Jack Manifold Grind.
Dreamxd isn't even an all-knowing god, he's not even billions of years old like he says he is. He is just a dreamon posing as a god
@@marshalllee6376 the jack manifold grind is too powerful to be stopped
When I first saw the trailer, i couldnt figure out that it was Jack's voice due to it being distorted, but after i found out that it was Jack, i thought that a big arc is coming which involves him, and as we see each person's line in the trailer- destruction is guaranteed no matter what. And when you mentioned them being related by death, i instantly thought of him not following the canon life system. Finally i can understand lore a bit more, and i cant wait for your future theories!!
finally jack and karl lore
@@kekkai8072 still waiting for Connor big lore
This was very interesting- but I don’t understand how you always have a theory for dsmp. Like, how are you ok so creative? Truly amazing and you never fail to entertain!
i'm glad you enjoyed it :D
Creative and access to a board with lots of string
@@Ani I personally can’t make a theory that far... I enjoyed the theory btw, keep it up 😊
I mean experience and if there is no dream smp theory, then there is no big lore in the smp
he should just apply for the SMP but only working with the "lore writer" role (if there is lol)
Well the DSMP characters are very complicated so l don't feel like there's gonna be a "100% evil villian that ruins everybodys' stuff and frick their moms while they're at it" type of character again but still, what an interesting theory!
i just liked how you worded that. good job
@@tallyloveshorses ye!
Can confirm, noone is just "pure evil" so I doubt they would make such a boring villain
I saw the title of this video and just went: “Yeah. Jack Manifold. Really, did no one else figure that out earlier?”
My reasoning (before watching this video) was as following; Jack Manifold keeps being left behind. He’s the ‘loner’ of the SMP, the ‘weirdo’. And what do those people grow out to be? The worst villains. It’s just like Fundy had said: ‘If I can’t make people smile, I will make them cry,’
He was right!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This also fits his on camera persona. Everyone making jokes that he sucks (and incase someone doesn't know this, it's all a joke that Jack is in on.)
@@jeckjeck3119 technically Jack only voices the overseers, he isn’t the overseers this was stated by Karl on twitter
@@calumparker268
For now.
I doubt Kristin would let Jack manifold become a god of death
True xD
Plot twist: Jack is actually Uncleza and is Kristin's brother in canon
@@theconfirmedaxisversion014 that is a cool plot twist
@@theconfirmedaxisversion014 That would be funny.
@@theconfirmedaxisversion014
Bigger plot twist: C!Jack is actually C!Kristin and he's been catfishing C!Philza for 1000s of years!
This theory is rly great!
Keep making banger mr Animagiacian
1st reply lol
Jack has the right influence and views to be a God of Death, I can see that.
Quite the dilemma but I feel like Karl will choose the Egg. If Ani's theory about the In Between is true, then everyone was killed already. Karl by the point that he has to decide will know that it's inevitable that they're eventual deaths will not be peaceful. But, no more people means DreamXD will only function off of the clones. Karl is his only power source. I guess it depends on what learn about DreamXD and his goals in the future but I can see Karl choosing the egg because it's such an uphill battle, especially with the carnage going on in the present
Yeah, no, Kristin would never let someone as Jack Manifold to be the God of Death. Because she is one :)
But I like this video!
Yasssss
Wow. Seriously blow away with how you tie all the loose ends together. Amazing job!
Only a min into the vid and dang, can’t wait to see how we got to that conclusion, I love Jack’s lore so I’m excited 😆
it would be interesting if "the other side was a reference to hell" and it would be funny if corpse played the role as devil
Honestly I do hope Jack gets some spotlight, he's already an interesting enough character, he just needs a chance
Dream: ''God damn it, Animagician! How many times should we re-write the plot because of you?! Wilbur, start writing!''
XD
Lmaoo 😂
it's the matpat scott cawthon effect lmaoooo
@@TwelviSC Huh, I wonder how deep this effect will go.
@@StoryTeller796
Wilbur: ''Okay, I got this, what if there are TWO Jack Manifolds!!! One for each castle. And XD is the sus one who made them all?!''
Dream: ''Fine, good, continue working before Animagician makes more theories!''
i’m only 2 minutes in but something just clicked in my head and i have no clue if it’s explained in the video but here we go.
i’m dream’s video he said something about how if no one knows you’re dead and you get revived you were never really dead. jack died and got revived and no one knows that. my brain just exploded-
Any dream SMP member : uploads anything that has _any_ connection to Dsmp lore for 10 secs
Ani : OKAY HEAR ME OUT- **proceeds to talk for 45 minutes**
@@The_BlOb thank you spelling police #7859
I always do, and I like him because I see myself in him.
@@StoryTeller796 so true
7:40
Wait a dam minute
Doesn’t the vindicator thingy in woodland mansions turn blue sheep red? Or the other way around? Maybe I’m grasping at threads but what if it has something to do with/in a mansion???
After the first episode of season 2 came out this might be a possibility. Karl was introduced to “DreamXD’s World” which connected the inbetween with the other side and Karl was told he’d have a choice on where he’d like to go and that both places have a demigod or overseer of that place and with the other side being the one karl chose Jack could possibly be the overseer of it since there’s a big theme of fire which Jack is also known for
I actually have a theory as well...
Whenever you make videos you're right so they have to change the lore around it
LOL
extremely awesome video as always!! definitely think some of these things are going to be canon in literally 2 days lol
plantskid so based so gamer so epic so true
Your honestly the only thing keeping me interested in dream smp at this point, keep up the great work!
While personally I don’t think c!Jack would be _the_ God of Death (Kristen already kinda has that role last I checked, though I don’t remember if it was directly stated), some kind of demigod of death would be plausible. It would be surprising enough to the viewers but also kind of a “Damn that makes a lot of sense” thing. Here are some of my predictions for this Tales episode
* Have to get out of the maze by a certain time
* There are mentions of all the characters that had lines in the teaser (Billiam, Ran, Ranbob, Jack?)
* Jack is the creator of the maze
* There’s some big monster
* Memory loss (not just for Karl but all the characters)
* _they come up in an elevator one at a time with no memory of their past and a little bit of supplies only to find themselves surrounded by four huge walls of stone and four entrances to a gigantic maze filled with dangerous creatures and traps-_
Bonus points if their names are written in blood on the wall /j
ANIMAGICIAN YOU PREDICTED IT YOU MADLAD
Jack deserves to be in the Lore more! Good for him
That maze looks like the sunshine institute from MC story mode. If you didn't know, the sunshine institute was a prison built by an admin in the story mode
My child just finished watching Karl's stream and wants to share a theory/info
!SPOILERS AHEAD!
At the end, in DreamXD world, DreamXD says something in Standard Galactic. I translated it and it says, "L DO YOU KNOW SHINIGAMI LOVE APPLES". 'Shinigami are gods or supernatural spirits that invite humans toward death in certain aspects of Japanese religion and culture. Shinigami have been described as monsters, helpers, and creatures of darkness. Shinigami are used for tales and religions in Japanese culture.' (copypasted from Google) . DreamXD is a Shinigami. I don't know what the apple means yet (maybe a god apple?), but keep an eye out for lore relevant apples on the DreamSMP.
Also, DreamXD brings up that another time traveler existed and they had memory issues like Karl. The only character other than Karl with memory issues was Ranboo, who, what do you know, died as a direct result of Dream.
TLDR; Keep an eye out for important apples and Ranboo was the other time traveler. :]
F-ing death note reference!
Apple is a death note reference. Basically a shinigami loves apples b/c they don't have anything in their world like it. It's practically a drug. If you like suspenseful animes then go watch it
I really liked this theory! I do have one question about it tho, if DreamXD likes to have repeated deaths, why does the death book he made perma kill someone?
no clue, honestly! i have no idea why he'd make it kill the user, either - it seems almost MADE to be used in conjunction with the revive book. my best guess is some trickery from the other god(dess) of death, mumza, nerfind dreamxd somehow
He probably likes it more when someone permanantly dies
@@Ani Can I answer that? A perma-death also powers the egg, so obviously he wants the death book's user to not use it in a manner that would power the egg...hence, he brings up the condition of perma death with no limbo, as it they aren't able to power the egg whilst not in limbo...so basically, if they can't be of any use to DreamXD by dying more, they aren't able to power the egg from limbo either
PS: that was kinda long, but I hope it makes sense:)
still can't believe they would write a story so complicated. its sounds incredible and really interesting tho
4:40 I believe that there has been a time where Karl went to the future. The one with Ranbot seems to be in the future. Seeing how he says that the themed rooms are based off of leaders from the *Past*, Leaders who were Karls friends.
This is a really solid theory! You always get me hooked with these
I never thought the words "screw you energy" would be used together
it was the best way to describe it to be fair
YOU NAILED THIS! IVE HAD A SIMILAR THEORY FOR AGES IM SO HAPPY THAT YOU MADE THIS VID FRRRR
I think I know what Karl chooses to do. I think that he decides to continue time traveling. We see that there are many clones of Karl in the In Between, but none in the Other Side. This leads me to believe that Karl decides to sacrifice himself to save his friends.
Imagine Dream and Willbur going out of ideas and than just watching Animagician for Lore advices
probably not
@@bobthebacon3163 *imagine* they say
@@bobthebacon3163 key word: "imagine"
Wait if Jack is Death, and Sbi is cannon, and Death is Philzas wife, then Jack is cannon Tommy and Wilburs Mother? I pretty sure that’s correct.
There is just one problem with this, Bad said that the egg gets power from people losing a canon life, not necessarily completely dying
Jack has had it bad, dream escapes, everybody hates him, and his best friend has "betrayed," him. I feel like this theory is right but also Jack could possibly work with the egg.
Also side not what happened to red skeppy?
yoooo you were right!! Jack is the an overseer of the other side. Also I translated the gibberish DreamXD said in the new Karl stream of the Tales of The SMP, it says "L do you know shinigami love apples". Its a weird thing. It's in the anime Death Note aswell. Dont know if this is a coincidence tho. Jack is also the overseer of the in between
At this point i think that the DreamSMP members come to this channel for ideas
the theorys pretty cool, im not really into the dsmp anymore but your videos are pretty cool (at around 4:14 i find it cool that you can see an outsiders episode [unrealted lol])
the theory of jack being the god of death is amazing makes sense and gives amazingness to jacks character but there is one thing you missed
mumza.
wasnt she the canonical goddes of death (as told in lore by Philza to Ranboo)
it would not make sense unless jack either is a sort of "child" or "minion"of mumza or they both could be of some type of race of death creatures i dont have anything to back this up but it would be pretty cool right?
if im incorrect about mumza being an canonical character please do tell cuz then this shit can go in the trash
I think she is, if I remember correctly Phil letting Mumza sit at his computer and play on the SMP as him was canonically explained as her spirit temporarily possessing him. It’s not like when Drista plays as her brother, where pretty much the only canon things about that are the illegal relics she gave Techno and Tommy, the bedrock name sign, and an admin-spawned wolf she tamed (whom Tommy later kills in that one stream where he went around breaking old stuff)
imagine jacks just the canon robot of himself LOL
if the inbetween really is from the future, then karl is from the future too, explaining the other karls running around in one of the episodes and why he goes to the white castle after every time trip
I just got into the whole smp lore a months ago, I've been struggling to keep up with everything ever since oh my god thanks so much for this!!!
Glad I could help!
This man should be on the dream smp for the hours of watching these streams and just making these theories.
Great video :)
Well, you were half right.
i totally see what you mean! and im sure Jack actually does has some importance to the future of the smp, maybe he really is the true villain of the dsmp
Or is it just you POV?
Or maybe it’s another character played by jack?
4:47 as soon as I saw this image I automatically said "are you a gun with legs, or are you legs with a gun ?"
Great video, I'm a little happy that some of your theories align with mine
After everything, The real villain was actually..
Animagician 🤯
Mind blown!
Mind blowing my guy
(Oh someone already replied it OK I guess)
Wow, it all makes sense now
The friends we made along the way?
I believe Connors gonna have his lore with it. Not just cause he tweeted, but since the cowboy Tale, Karl and Connor were the two not dressed as cowboys, cause Karl is a time traveler. What if Connor is too?
These theories are legit fire
Around 8:35 the music sounds like the home Depot song...
I've been on the internet too long
Jack is an overseer but I doubt its actually the character jack. Its just a demigod version of jack like dreamXD is the god version of dream.
If you watched the new video where karl goes to dreamXDs world you would understand
Evokers can turn blue sheep into red sheep or vice versa this may have something to do with the egg
BRO YOU JUST SOLVED IT! JACK MANIFOLD IS IN THE LATEST TALES I CAN'T BELIEVE IT
In George's dream the end crystals were already broken, right, could that have anything to do with the lore?
The writers who didn’t make up anything, but see this video: WRITE THAT DOWN, WRITE THAT DOWN
Omg the way you literally predicted jack being the overseer
I know right
Oh My fucking god!
You were right, it really is him!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Note: this would also make sense with Jack’s origin be the blazeborn
you got the jack is (somewhat) god of hell theory right
It was just so epic to see Animagician was right after watching The Maze. How?? I love your theories ( **ehem** well it is not a theory but reality now) Ani!!
I have about 10 different theories for Karl but one that I think about the most is that the Inbetween is a place of death and that the Other Side could be a hidden place of peace or life, but it was overrun by the Egg. And the Egg is what corrupted and made this place another area of death. Like with the flowers that are shown with the places, the Inbetween having black wither roses and the Other Side having white tulips.
Also when Sapnap was asked to put a name in the Book of Death, he put in Johnathan, and one of his characters in the Tales was named John. Normally John will be short for Johnathan, so another theory is that Sapnap will one day find out how to mess with the future people using the book.
When DreamXD spoke in his first language, I reversed it and it sounded like " For he killed my child--ery " almost sounding like he was say two different things at once. Even if I'm right or wrong, XD still sounds like he were to speak in the same way as the Egg
Also anyone else see the trailer and thought Outsiders?? No? just me? mkay
I’m calling it here and now with you all as witnesses. The episode is called “The maze” it will be inspired by the maze runner books (similar to Outsiders smp). And they may make another one tied to this later , so something like a total of 3 . Maze runner; this one.
Scortch Trials: A possibility
Death cure: Another possibility with a name something along the name of , Death of the Memories (IT SOUNDS COOL, SHUT)
There is actualy a smp for maze runner its called ''Outsiders smp'' and its pretty cool to see it now in the trailer (even if they did not meen outsiders smp)
Theory:The leader of The In-between is the future version of Karl trying to stop himself from time travelling
Ah yes, the most powerful people on the dream SMP:
A moody god addicted to caffiene
Replacement Skeppy
Blood Manifold.
/j
This theory has like a special connection to the time traveller ranboo theory especially the choice part at the end , maybe ranboo couldn't choose beacuse of his hatred of sides so dreamXD had to kick him out and like took away his memory of time travelling? Maybe that's why it was hard to say that the last time traveller forgot
Why did Karl cross the In-Between?
To get to the Other Side.
.....i'll see myself out.
@Animagician do u or anyone else think Ranboo was born coz Dream used his Revive Book for the first time on an Enderman? Coz, remember wen Dream used it on Techno he first had to punch/draw blood from Techno before using it? So maybe Dream used his own blood for the activation and then killed an Enderman for the actual reviving, hence the Green eye and blood plus half white and half black skin :-).... just a theory ive been holding onto... i may have mentioned it somewhere in someones comment section last year but yeah, i still think its the strongest argument for Ranboos existence and connection to Dream and y he can hear Dream as a voice in his head and lastly, y he has such a strong attachment to Dream, allowing Dream to somewhat control Ranboo at times even from inside the prison, making Ranboo risk his life setting off TNT while Tommy was visiting Dream amongst other things.... Just saying, maybe its worth looking into :-)
I got very excited when i heard ran because i have a theory that hes a time traveler as well.
The future in between theory doesn't make sense though because in one of the tales he goes to the future where the smp members are legends of the past. So going to the inbetween wouldn't make sense. My belief is that the in between exists outside of time which is why when it zooms out the sky shows both dawn and dusk. I also wanna note there's a huge Kingdom Hearts inspiration behind the in between and it's possible that looking at the Kingdom Hearts franchise may shed some light on inspirations for tales as well.
I watched this like 5 days ago and i must say... UR THEORY WAS RIGHT ABOUT JACK BEING A GOD!!!
Well not fully sure but I did see in the in other side world that Jack appears to be a demi god
Animagician… you were right about jack manifold…
isn't mumza the god of death? are they always just fighting over which people to kill?
I just realized that the orchestral version of the home depot theme was playing in the background lol
TBH That Maze makes mes me think of Outsider SMP .... I know it's not it but IT'D BE AN EPIC CROSSOVER!!!
My exact thoughts XD
Like I saw the maze and I kept thinking “Now show the missing posters and the wall with the blood names”
Ok ok me here being the only outsiders smp youtuber ok you did so well and also is it possible that outsiders and dream are somewhat related- perhaps outsiders is the future of dream smp- if you think about it the maze would be a refuge for people wanting to get away from dream. I have so much proof- One- Eryn- Eryn is going to join outsiders some time in the future who is also a member of dream smp and somehow related to the egg. The egg not being able to be destroyed by tnt would survive and then send Eryn as it’s spy or whatever. Furthermore we know that something happened to the outside world- some of the world froze over- so outsiders would be outside the dream smp where the people there found a way to freeze the water not long after dream made everything water. They are called the outsiders because well they are outside of the greater dream smp. Even if the egg didn’t survive the explosions a spore of it could have and the instructed Eryn to join, as we know the maze is voulentary. Finally one of the key differences between dream and outsiders is that in outsiders the vewiers are canon- and most outsiders fans are dream smp fans there are just less of us because some of us died in the floods
Huh. It’s got holes but it kinda works
You hooked me on dimensions. I have a lot of theories on that
Dude you are literally just the matpat of the dsmp Fandom
THE MANIFOLD GRIND DOESN’T STOP, HES NOW A GOD 👹
So then Mumza has all the power as she is DEATH.
Great video! You pointed out things from the trailer that I didn't see! Also, where is the Best of Animagician 2021 video?
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" jack manifold is the god of death"
That is a sentence i never thought id hear
I feel like the theory about dream killing everyone and making the whole smp an ocean is kinda far fetched because I think he’s actually going to die to Tommy or Sapnap by the end of lore.
I can't believe it
man pumps out content for like 5 second clips and he finds out a major percentage of speculated lore
Hate to spoil your theory Kristen, Philza’s wife is the god of death it’s literally cannon about this point Phil made a video on it where Kristen joins the smp possessing phils body for a whole hour
Watching this video when I just should sleep is just even better than watching it at day-
The lore is the only thing that still keeps me coming back to this SMP. I hate literally everything else
quite surprised you didnt mentioned the part about george’s dream where karl in his “in between” skin told him about his connection with dreamxd and the posters karl had posted before the s2 trailer where both hands have different xd bracelets. hope i can hear it from you soon :D
i noticed that! couldn't figure out how to work it into the theory though, haha
The other side being controlled by
dreamXD explains the ":]"s on the misleading signs, the smile could be another trait copied from dream, being :] and not :) so we are able to differentiate the two
There a problem with this theory it really good but we already have a godess of death mumza. So this theory doesn't really work he could. be a the new one of mumza dies but the very unlikely. But i think he could be controling the egg and that why his voice appers one on the in between or a character he playing time travels back with karl to the in between.
hi! i hope you guys are having a nice day/night!
You too!
Reasons why Jack Manifold is a chad: #1: HE literally swam up lava, and #2: He crawled his way out of hell.
I'm excited for Tales from the SMP season 2 to start so we can get some more information
0:51
Ah yes. Every single character: Dream, Technoblade, and Ranboo.
They are the only important characters the others aren’t important