Resi ProPresenter Stream | A Game-Changer for Church Live Streaming
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In this video, Jake unpacks the exciting news of Resi ProPresenter Stream!
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You guys need to do a video on Apple Silicon, Big Sur, and the impacts of those things on worship tech/live streaming.
Resi is life, Jake. Literally zero issues with our stream reliability via the Ray encoder. Thanks for the content
Well, Jake, I am going to get my church's leadership on board with implementing Propresenter and Resi to our live stream setup and also start using Black-magic hardware to perfect our live stream's durability. Also, my plan for 2021 is to sign my church up for Worship Ministry school!!
What is "Worship Ministry school" ?
Great breakdown of the new feature in ProPresenter! Had some of the same questions before using it for a live service, so if you hear back about those redundancy concerns please let us know! I'd be curious what the folks at Resi say. Appreciate you, God Bless
Love the video, Jake! You’re the man.
For what it’s worth video switching and encoding only adds up to about 10% resource usage. On my church’s computer we switch and stream using ProPresenter and only use 2% CPU total. Pretty crazy!
@@codynpatterson What are the specs of the computer you use?
@@JosephBarnard31 it’s a Cyberpower PC that we bought from Bestbuy for $1200 USD. Ryzen 7 3700x, Radeon 5700xt, 16gb ram, and an SSD for storage.
@@codynpatterson Gotcha, thanks!
Resi value proposition is more than just RSP, depending on the plan: multi-streaming + web player + HIgh quality encoder + automation.
Is there a video that describes you streaming set up? I want to know more about the connection between ProPresenter, Decklink, and ATEM switch.
need this too
Man, the last scenario you mentioned is the exact boat I'm in. I am extremely into custom PCs and this is my second build. In fact, I am writing this comment on the PC I built from scratch for our church. We've had some major issues with video playback in pro7, but that shouldn't be happening very often from now on. We are looking forward to using OBS to encode our ATEM feed using a BMD Duo 2, but after I saw this video, it might just be worth it to switch from boxcast and use the Resi software encoder instead of getting Restream for cheaper. The pc should definitely be up for some encoding as it is an 8-core Ryzen 7 with 32gb of ram and RX 5500XT, this machine was purpose built by me for encoding and I'm glad to see we will have the option to use Resi without buying a $1000 encoder which we already have the hardware for (RX 5500XT GPU as the encoding chip on a GPU is completely separate from the rest of the card). Someone actually recommended Resi to us a few months ago, but we decided to use OBS instead as our machine was going to already have an encoder on the GPU, but this seems to solve that. I do agree with your concern with reliability, and you're probably right to "Let them be the guinea pigs," and just hold-off on it for a bit, this PC has only been active for a couple weeks now and the team is really going to want the change to slow down for a bit anyways. I actually got sent this video by one of my fellow media team members, so it's nice to see that other people enjoy your content as well. Love your videos! God Bless!
for the price of a one month of "starter web" you could buy a raspberry Pi install a RTMP server that will push to all the locations you want and have money left over for a Little Caesar's pizza party. or save for a few months and build a server to do the same AND record all sources (granted it'll take a lot of tech savvy) but I'm not one for subscription based models particularly when it comes to handling MY data, video, audio etc.
Put all cards on the table and tried it out last night, thats one time where it bit me in the butt. Plus there was a worldwide TH-cam outage...
hey jake....why NOT just use the ATEM MINI PRO???
ATEM Mini Pro can only stream RTMP and only to one destination at a time. If you want to take advantage of Resi's resilient streaming system it's either ProPresenter or a Resi hardware encoder.
Hey Jake, this coming week, my church is upgrading our projectors and presentation stuff. I can't wait because I get to mess with this stuff being one of the only sound and media people
Have you seen the prices! And that's for a low bandwidth.
That's why I built polystreamer.com :) Churches stream for only a few hours per week, so a pay-as-you-go mlutistreaming is perfect for them.
Is it possible to integare two propresenter's together? So one would send lower thrids, grpahics, video to the second that would handle live streaming only? I'd like to seprate live streaming and projecting from each other and use two PC's for it.
Absolutely! This is a very typical scenario.
Thank you for doing this video! I am someone who is just interested in things like this, and I want to point something out about ProPresenter. Renewed Vision did not plan on bringing ProPresenter to Windows when they first made it, so the code base for Mac and Windows are completely different, so that may be why ProPresenter on Mac is so much better.
Hey there! ProPresenter 7 actually was built from the ground up to work on PC. Most users have found it to be as powerful if not more reliable and powerful than the same Mac variant. Of course both are reliable now in November after many month of focus on bug fixes.
Ive been using PP7 on windows for 7 months now I guess, as a power user! It works very good and reliable. I’m the past it was terrible! It with 7 it is very good.
I would recommend everybody to go with windows instead of Mac! You get a lot of flexibility for back
ProPresenter 7 is much better, but it was ProPresenter 6 I had in mind when writing the comment. My point is: the code base is completely different, so they can't get everything exactly the same on both. None of this is anything I would hold against Renewed Vision. They have to maintain two code bases, meaning they have to maintain both, and make features match on both, which is crazy hard work!
This was good. You mention the your ministry replaced restream with Resi. Did you keep restreams chat feature?
You are combining the reliability of Resi with literally the most unreliable version of Propresenter.
I would be more happy If PP7 developers would rather focus on fixing bugs and other issues than to add other thing that would and will have a lot other problems to start with.
Hey there… this is Brad from Renewed Vision… As you can imagine, we hate to hear these kinds of comments. Every user's personal experience impacts their impressions of software, but we work hard to ensure that ProPresenter is reliable as possible. For what its worth, we are not cavalier about stability as we treasure it more than any feature. The latest releases have fixed the cause for any crash that has occurred to more than 80 people in the last 9 months (according to our analytics), and 100% of the crashes reported by our users. Our goal is to keep pounding away at problems that effect our users. If you are having issues, please reach out to support.renewedvision.com
I was reporting every issue we have had. Every other week I am sending emails.
FYI the bug that while inside layouts editor you move something on random basic the whole program crashes. That was the most reported issue from our church and it is still not solved, right now it just crashed on me.
I appreciate your hard work but I think that for the price that the software costs those bugs should be away in a few days since release.
Amen
So, we use PP7 to livestream to TH-cam. What’s the budget friendly Avenue of adding Facebook live as well?
As Mentioned, ReStream is a good Option
So are you over laying your lower 3rd lyrics in propresenter or in the ATEM. We have a mini pro and are currently eating up an HDMI port just to pump in the lyrics into the switch software and then using a luma key to over lay them, then streaming straight out of the switcher softwareto youtube. I am going to have to look into the way you have your set up
Hi Jake. I really like the topics and technical detail you have on this channel. However... for a small church, budgeting in $139/month is just not an easy commitment, even with priorities evaluated. That being said, I would find WAY more value in your channel’s content if you provided comment on a scaled down version of your set up.
Looking at buying an iMac for our sound booth. Any thoughts on what specs for a flawless operation. I'm aware of the "minimum" requirements; those are rarely for optimal performance.
I'd be planning on using the Blackmagic Mini for the camera inputs. The audio is coming from Dante. That should all work together from what I've seen as far as configuring the video/audio inputs, correct? Dante is like that unicorn that's rarely talked about; which, is why I appreciate your channel so much!
Wouldn’t the Ray encoder eliminate the need for the Resi software plug in? Explain it like I’m 5.
Yes it would! Don't need both
Do you have some links or resources about the automation with ProPresneter 7?
ProPresenter 7 is just way too buggy even before these added features. Renewed Vision have been supporting us but still ProPresenter crashes at least once per service and Renewed Vision seem to have run out of ideas - been going on for 3-4 months. New high spec PC. I will continue to run vMix on separate PC. Cheers
We have an older generation iMac and the new generation iMac I believe the base model.
I’ve been checking out some of your videos for some time and looking into getting our church to switch to full time propresenter as an all in one system.
Do you recommend us using pro presenter in one of these computers? Or do you recommend we update to a Mac mini?
Please let me know! Trying to do my research
What's your thoughts on Faithlife Proclaim? Is it better or equal to pro presenter?
This would be an easy yes to switch to from vmix but ProPresenter 7 has too many hiccups and I have to restart the program or wait for the scripture to catch up too often DURING SERVICE! not good
Hello Church front, Great awesome work you're doing, I have some questions I wish I could talk to you about on a call or something, My church over here use VMIX and are considering switching to ProP, however our services are completely spontaneous, we dont know what song or bible verse is coming next, or even who is going to take what function. So we cannot schedule a service. Vmix allows us solve all of that problem...though, so id really like to hear from you about this , thanks alot!
do you ever comment on audio or video delay syncing and the lag between them when streaming? we run PP w an ARc16 DAW into ATEM tv studio out to Ultra 4K mini to router.. having lots of lag between the vid/audio sync. -tv
Is I.T possible to just get Resi live streaming by itself without propresentor?
do you use the same computer for streaming and in house? we are using two computers one with power point for now but that is going to change, and another computer running vmix for streaming
Can I just record the stream? we pre-record everything, but I did not realize I could use propresenter in this way...it would be awesome! but I don't need to live stream it...just record.
Would you still recommend getting Resi hardware along with ProP7 (to stream) over using the Resi software plugin along with ProP7?
I live stream using ATEM MINI PRO ISO. I don’t see the benefit of using this set up for live streaming. What am I missing?
The Mini Pro ISO is just a video switcher. That has little to no impact on the quality of your livestream. Resi is a service provider/hosting platform that offers a proprietary encoding that stabilizes your stream... and no one can really beat it. ProPresenter now offers a software solution that bypasses the need for a hardware encoder (a savings of ~$1200).
@@mahall85 the ATEM MINI PRO ISO also does live stream. It is not just a video switcher.
@@ailo14 But it will not encode directly to the Resi platform. THAT is the key. My church uses a very similar setup to Jake’s church... our feed runs from cameras -> ATEM Mini Pro -> ProPresenter -> Resi RAY encoder -> internet. Your Mini Pro ISO probably hits some sort of encoder (software?) before hitting the internet, and that setup is not compatible with Resi.
@@mahall85 no it doesn’t. That’s the major difference with the ATEM MINI. The PRO ISO encodes directly to the internet. No further software or hardware needed. It streams to the internet directly and never had any issues once.
@@ailo14 If you have something that works, great. I’m just trying to explain the difference, and the difference is Resi. Resi offers a stability in stream that you simply can’t get from other places, no matter your setup. It’s not just gear, Resi is your streaming provider.
Do you recommend getting the Ray encoder? or is Pro-presenter as encoder, good enough?
Great info. Thanks! Here's my quandary. We're currently streaming to FB and YT with vMix. I'm looking at getting ProPresenter on a 2nd PC, but basically only for the ease of scripture overlays. We don't really need it for much else and we've got a really good internet connection. Which route would you suggest?
Same question here!
Jake any advice for a small church under 50 to convince their church's leadership to sign up for Worship Ministry school??
how much is it?
We just bought a iMac and pro presenter 7 we were previously using an older pc with song show - so it’s a big change and a big learning curve- we have been live streaming on a separate computer via one camera our budget and our knowledge is limited, we have been taking everything one step at a time we recently started running our audio direct from a separate mix on the board - getting the mix going out to the live stream set good has been a chore - it gets better every week though. I have been researching how to utilize the iMac and pro presenter for the live stream, the part I am most concerned with is the automated switching. Working with volunteers; I am cautious about how much responsibility I place on them. They are adapting to a lot already - any advice on getting thing set up?
Hello Jake, so with few days did you encounter some issue or crash with this system ? Thanks a lot !
I wonder how well it would work on the New MacBook air and MacBook pro with M1 chip?
Does the RESI plugin automatically show up now within PP7.2? Or is it a download from RESI?
Are church i can’t not see the screen even if i have my glass on and I thing it might be are stage lighting but it might be the projector i know we do not have a door to baptism but the screen goes over. That could be the other idea baptism with no door, that might be cause of limit light before we switch the projector the original one was in backward way hit a mirror and bouncing to a screen when we was switch building.
My RTMP is not displaying
I am wondering same as others In regard to running Atem mini pro with resi.
ProPresenter + ATEM mini pro or ISO!!
I have had so many problems doing my stream completely though ProPresenter it's not even funny. Having a simple preview screen should have been obvious to have, multiple audio cut outs and have to restart the stream, connection issues, ect.
So are church has 5 and the one who set it switch church and if we forget are email and password how do we keep all of the stuff we use.
Can you use OBS to stream
I have always found Pro Presenter to be pretty glitchy.
I heard you say that it can work with the Atem Mini Pro, would it also work with the normal Atem Mini, I am assuming it would since it's a switcher but I would really like the feedback affirmation so I can make the purchase.
Hi Sam. We use Resi paired with an ATEM Mini. Works just fine.
@@RevJorgeDiaz Thank you so much for your response. I really want to go with this approach. The thing is my Macbook Pro would be the one running this setup and it has 8gb of memory (ram) and a 3.1 Ghz Dual Core Intel Core i5 processor. This is my most advanced macbook at church, my other laptop is a macbook air but I believe the Pro would do a better job. Do you think I should use the Macbook Pro for this setup? (real tight budget jaja)
@@RevJorgeDiaz Right now I am using the Macbook Pro for Ecamm Live and for my Logic Mix Template (I know the ideal solution would be to use two laptops but my other laptop runs Proclaim). With this solution, I was thinking that maybe I could use the Pro for ProPresenter and Resi (like Jake said) and I could use the other laptop solely for the Mix template which would make the quality of my live stream better. What is your opinion on this?
@@samuelcruz1891 so typically be the pros tend to have more processing power. Jake suggests having at least a quad core core processor. It’s been my experience that Logic takes a fair amount of CPU power so I’d keep that on the Pro with Propresenter/Resi. Then you can run your mix template on the Air. I would suggest in time upgrading the Pro to a quad core chip, perhaps 16GB of RAM and ultimately using the Resi Ray Encoder which will free the Pro from encoding on ecamm.
I’m assuming this might require computer upgrades?
do you need both the encoder as well as the streaming services?
Hey Brad! You’ll need ProPresenter (which you may already have) and then a subscription with one of Resi’s streaming options. ProPresenter is the encoder.
Dude you look like Harry Kane from Tottenham Hotspurs
I though the same thing lol
Why this vs vMix?
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Can this be used with Propresenter 6?
how does this work with sling studio?
If I’m just using 1 camera angle, do I need the Atem?
If you plan on using more than one camera for different angles/shots then go for it. The atem mini pro is a great beginner choice and super easy to use. But if you want something with a bit more features and future proofing than the atem television studio HD is a wonderful choice.
Too expensive compared to alternatives.
Technically it’s free if you own ProPresenter and just use the RTMP option. :) Resi while it can be expensive depending on the service you go with, gives you the reliability no other service offers as well as the ability for automation and advanced analytics!
Agreed. I thought restream was too expensive at $50 / month, so I built polystreamer.com
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