Really We thought Vatican 2 almost destroyed Church Tradition Women??? The homosexuality and Priests marrying My Lord Jesus Christ have divine mercy on us and what these despots are trying to accomplish Catholic faithful worldwide should be praying the Most Holy Rosary on the steps of every Catholic church Cathedral and all Catholic organizations St Joseph terror of demons ORA PRO NOBIS
The Church had married Priests until the 12th century. All other apostolic churches allow for married Priests. The Catholic Church is having a crisis in terms of vocations to the Priesthood, and most of the clergy at this point are men who struggle with a certain same sex sin... I would have no problem with the Church allowing Priests to be married once again, as it was for over 1000 years after Christ was here on earth
That’s the problem- women don’t know how to be silent and humble like our mother Mary. I’m a woman and I just don’t understand why women are so determined to change things. They need to be silent.
Praise the Lord God our Father. Lord show us your mercy and heal our ailments. Protect us against Corona Virus Pandemic. For our family and near and dear ones. For our spiritual and temporal wants
Despite our divergent interpretations of the Bible regarding Jesus Christ's life and guidance on how to live, we share a common faith in Him as Christians. This unity binds us together, even as we attend different churches.
no one can destroy the church the gates of hell will not prevail Christ has guaranteed it you and I and all the faithfull must unite ourselves with Mary Mother of the Church in continuous prayer and leave this grave problem in Her hands there is a great prayer composed byBishop Athanasius schneider re this synod would be good if you started praying it and encourage others to do so... yours in Jesus Mary and Joseph
Thank you for your summary. Don't worry nothing will go against dogma. One of the bishops said the agenda is from the bible. It's not the media's agenda which the media wants to discuss namely Women priests LGBT issues Same sex blessings. None of these will be considered. The Roman strategy of avoidance is to leave it to the end and then say they run out of time They might debate women deacons . Because that was hotly debated in a previous synod inconclusively.
They don't have to discuss the list given but the Pope's views support them and the media reports it. Did that Bishop explain how the agenda connected with the bible? Tolerating the pressure on woman priests shows the present apostasy of the church's top level. Promoting Pachamama is evil and brings God's wrath on humanity. Another war broke out in Israel after the commencement of the Synod. So-called ecumenical unity has so far brought only disaster. God warns again : Judges 10:13-16
“Nor the effeminate, nor liers with mankind, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor railers, nor extortioners, shall possess the kingdom of God.” 1 Corinthians 6:10
In our parish, for example, we began our synod by taking the 6 sets of questions given to us by the Archdiocese and identifying 6 sets of scripture verses that pertained to each question. We then set out to identify those in the parish that were in the various parish groups and the daily mass attendants and started praying about the synod each day, using those verses over 6 weeks. When it came time for the synod we had quite a large group and it seemed as though the time spent prayer led to a very fruitful discussion with a good sense of mission that resulted in quite a number of successful programs that no one could have envisioned by themselves. Just one approach, but this was quite fruitful. Its clearly a journey but in our experience it was quite successful without all the politics. peace
All that seek, truly, YHWH, and his son Yeshua are welcome, but only if they repent from sin and live according to His Holy Will, His Holy Word. We are all called to be servants to God above all, to eacb other (men, women, children), no matter status (Bishop, gender, nationality).
This has become such a divisive issue, in part because of a lack of obedience to the Holy Spirit. We are not a church of discipleship. We do not pick our leaders, whether lay or priestly because of their obedience to the Lord, their prayer life and desire to enlarge the Kingdom of Heaven. Because of this, it has become an issue of power. For the conservatives, it is power of priests over laity. For liberals it is power of the laity over the priests. This is not of God. Within the church there is a formal hierarchy, but there should also be an informal hierarchy. Each priest within each parish should be identifying laity who are faithful and build into them the formation that they themselves had. As Paul said "what you have heard from me before many witnesses entrust to faithful people who will be able to teach others also" (2 Tim 2:2). When we chose to do this, we will have a strong laity who can then lead small groups and be participants to a synod.
This is a wonderful appreciation of the truth. And it won't happen. They'll invest female laity backed by NGOs and money pumps dedicated to the destruction of Rome with the power to tell young male laity like me that we're prideful, arrogant, too aggressive in our notions, and poorly educated (indoctrinated). Older women who dine daily on the proceeds of organisations ostensibly built for the development of the Church that we, and they, ultimately know are tools of the enemy. But they worship another God, like all do who see salvation in payslips, living standards, and social acceptance. Women will come into the Church and preach peace where they mean submission. Old, washed-up priests of whatever persuasion will hem and haw, nod their heads at angry words, but secretly despise young men with more intelligence than they ever had. And under the claws of women, eunuchs, and a drowning society, you will hope to bind us. Here's one man saying: No f*cking way. If the Church goes, then I am the Church. If the Church practices not the faith, then we are the faith. And we made no vows, and need show no mercy beyond our heart's content. But as of yet, God has not invested us with power. Pray be the day comes soon. I know what the heretics need.
they are just acting using God’s name and the Holy Spirit in vain. This is just a cover up to pretend to take decisions, the ones who are part of it are the ones selected, quite easy to come to a common understanding. Lord have mercy on your Church and those who redeemed by your blood. The simple good willed Catholics and Clergy are just too naive to see the truth…
Its being predicted at Fatima by our Blessed Mother that the Catholic Church will go through chastisement and crisis from within.. THIS IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW IN ROME.. Satan has successfully infiltrated the Church hierachy causing confusion, and chaos... she said PRAY PRAY PRAY THE ROSARY.... MD 😢😢😢
Synod needs to focus also on repentance. Entering to the whole communion in the Church is though repentance and conversion. Without this Church will be profaned indstead of sanctified.
Ludwig, the "roots" say a man can never become a woman. The Sacrament of Matrimony is about a man and a woman and not between a woman and another woman, nor between a man and another man.
If LGBT persons want a public ceremonial blessing from the church I suggest that it takes the form of publicly repeating the baptismal vows at Easter along with the rest of the congregation. .In other words that they be treated exactly the same as every other Catholic wishing to publicly show repentance and seeking the Lord's mercy. This would be in line with the popes guidance and church dogma.They may wish to stand together at the front of the congregation but preferably in such a way that they always remain visibly a part of their parish and the body of Christ. Their blessing should be part of a communal blessing for everyone present not something separate causing division in the church.
@@marymoloney5784 "Any sexual relationship outside marriage" Who cares about sexual relationships outside marriage? Marriage is just a way of sacramentally ordaining the natural union between man and woman. I believe marriage is beautiful, but I am decidedly not worried about men and women having sex, wherever they please. I am disturbed by man and man or woman and woman being touted as equal relationships in defiance of nature. To defy nature is to choose death. This isn't about sexual proclivities, this is a death cult. Let man desire woman, and let men with daughters or wives institute systems to protect those women. Marriage is a natural instinct. I renounce anything less than the heteronormative passion, and accept no one else but the self-declared eunuchs who have professed themselves servants of God and his Church.
The world is rushing towards environmental conditions that will not support human life, and yet almost all critics of the Pope are wringing their hands over the possibility of blessing humans whose love for each other frightens or confuses them.
My friend, this is not love; it's lust. And they will perish in hell for all eternity. The Church should love them by telling this truth. Don't you agree that our eternal destiny (heaven or hell) is the most important concern in life? “9. Know you not that the unjust shall not possess the kingdom of God? Do not err: Neither fornicators nor idolaters nor adulterers: 10. Nor the effeminate nor liers with mankind nor thieves nor covetous nor drunkards nor railers nor extortioners shall possess the kingdom of God.” (1Cor 6:9-10)
@@blakemorgan8777 your judgement of the heart (or actions) of another seems no more reliable than Paul’s list of sins, taken from his own mind and certainly not attributable to Christ, whose new covenant tends to be ignored by many “traditionalists.”
😂 This is a Kabuki show. Francis uses this as a smokescreen for his radical agenda. His dismissal of ideas HE disagrees with he terms heretical. What utter nonsense blessing gay unions. Just read Paul’s epistles and you have a context.
St Michael the archangel defend us in battle 🛐
Really We thought Vatican 2 almost destroyed Church Tradition
Women??? The homosexuality and Priests marrying
My Lord Jesus Christ have divine mercy on us and what these despots are trying to accomplish
Catholic faithful worldwide should be praying the Most Holy Rosary on the steps of every Catholic church Cathedral and all Catholic organizations
St Joseph terror of demons ORA PRO NOBIS
Colm Flynn, terrific job breaking down what actually happens. This Synod’s dynamic is difficult to explain. You did great!
We must retain our Catholic Traditional Values.
No marriage for Priests and no women priestesses the same to deacons
The Church had married Priests until the 12th century. All other apostolic churches allow for married Priests. The Catholic Church is having a crisis in terms of vocations to the Priesthood, and most of the clergy at this point are men who struggle with a certain same sex sin...
I would have no problem with the Church allowing Priests to be married once again, as it was for over 1000 years after Christ was here on earth
Basically, there is a meeting of mostly liberal clergy. Who thinks there will be no change?
What, women voting?!!! At the Synod of Bishops...to me, being a woman, I think of Mary...her vote was silent but definitely heard🙏🙏🙏
That’s the problem- women don’t know how to be silent and humble like our mother Mary. I’m a woman and I just don’t understand why women are so determined to change things. They need to be silent.
Pray for the church! The Bride will be crucified with the Bridegroom.
That's a good way to put it
Praise the Lord God our Father. Lord show us your mercy and heal our ailments. Protect us against Corona Virus Pandemic. For our family and near and dear ones. For our spiritual and temporal wants
bergoglios & co's. contrived predetermined manipulated AGENDA - ( ambiguity clothed in religous language).
Despite our divergent interpretations of the Bible regarding Jesus Christ's life and guidance on how to live, we share a common faith in Him as Christians. This unity binds us together, even as we attend different churches.
If the Pope endorses the blessing of sinful behavior, it will destroy the Catholic Church.
no one can destroy the church the gates of hell will not prevail Christ has guaranteed it you and I and all the faithfull must unite ourselves with Mary Mother of the Church in continuous prayer and leave this grave problem in Her hands there is a great prayer composed byBishop Athanasius schneider re this synod would be good if you started praying it and encourage others to do so...
yours in Jesus Mary and Joseph
The gates of he'll will never prevail, Jesus promises
Just as I'm considering the choice between Catholic or Orthodox, the outcome of this meeting may be the deciding factor.
I am looking at Orthodoxy too.It will depend on how this goes but I think we both know where this is going.
@@Westyrulz I have a gut feeling this synod will cause another schism.
@@PossumKommander Let us be honest the Church has been in Schism for quite a while between Faithful Catholics and Non-Faithful Catholics.
I think this synod in its self is worrisome. It astounds me that the pope is even co soldering blessing sin. This is not something the church can do.
@@johng7681 Me too. If it happens then the Church had it wrong for the last 2,000 years so it question's everything. My faith is waning already.
Thank you for your summary. Don't worry nothing will go against dogma. One of the bishops said the agenda is from the bible. It's not the media's agenda which the media wants to discuss namely
Women priests
LGBT issues
Same sex blessings.
None of these will be considered. The Roman strategy of avoidance is to leave it to the end and then say they run out of time
They might debate women deacons . Because that was hotly debated in a previous synod inconclusively.
They don't have to discuss the list given but the Pope's views support them and the media reports it. Did that Bishop explain how the agenda connected with the bible? Tolerating the pressure on woman priests shows the present apostasy of the church's top level. Promoting Pachamama is evil and brings God's wrath on humanity. Another war broke out in Israel after the commencement of the Synod. So-called ecumenical unity has so far brought only disaster. God warns again : Judges 10:13-16
Wrong. Instrumentum laboris clearly states the agenda.
@@buffuzo4201 don't say wrong. Wait and see.
Issues to be discussed can't limit to a Yes & No answers for the GOOD of all stick to Jesus' teachings..His Doctrine.
“Nor the effeminate, nor liers with mankind, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor railers, nor extortioners, shall possess the kingdom of God.”
1 Corinthians 6:10
Thank you (one of my favorite verses.) This warning is explicit and FOR CHRISTIANS. There should be absolutely no consideration of same-sex blessings.
@@blakemorgan8777 amen 🙏
In our parish, for example, we began our synod by taking the 6 sets of questions given to us by the Archdiocese and identifying 6 sets of scripture verses that pertained to each question. We then set out to identify those in the parish that were in the various parish groups and the daily mass attendants and started praying about the synod each day, using those verses over 6 weeks. When it came time for the synod we had quite a large group and it seemed as though the time spent prayer led to a very fruitful discussion with a good sense of mission that resulted in quite a number of successful programs that no one could have envisioned by themselves. Just one approach, but this was quite fruitful. Its clearly a journey but in our experience it was quite successful without all the politics. peace
Going back to the roots?
We must retain our Catholic Traditional Values.
No marriage for Priests and no women priestesses the same to deacons and same sex marriage
Who is paying for their accommodation, food, etc for all those who are participating in the Synod?????????
All that seek, truly, YHWH, and his son Yeshua are welcome, but only if they repent from sin and live according to His Holy Will, His Holy Word.
We are all called to be servants to God above all, to eacb other (men, women, children), no matter status (Bishop, gender, nationality).
Frightening
Apostles discussed certain issues in the early church.Holy Spirit revealed the truths that do not go against Christ teachings. We pray for the Church.
Not all bishops are invited. It’s only hand picked allowed. Synod from Hell.
This has become such a divisive issue, in part because of a lack of obedience to the Holy Spirit. We are not a church of discipleship. We do not pick our leaders, whether lay or priestly because of their obedience to the Lord, their prayer life and desire to enlarge the Kingdom of Heaven. Because of this, it has become an issue of power. For the conservatives, it is power of priests over laity. For liberals it is power of the laity over the priests. This is not of God. Within the church there is a formal hierarchy, but there should also be an informal hierarchy. Each priest within each parish should be identifying laity who are faithful and build into them the formation that they themselves had. As Paul said "what you have heard from me before many witnesses entrust to faithful people who will be able to teach others also" (2 Tim 2:2). When we chose to do this, we will have a strong laity who can then lead small groups and be participants to a synod.
This is a wonderful appreciation of the truth. And it won't happen. They'll invest female laity backed by NGOs and money pumps dedicated to the destruction of Rome with the power to tell young male laity like me that we're prideful, arrogant, too aggressive in our notions, and poorly educated (indoctrinated). Older women who dine daily on the proceeds of organisations ostensibly built for the development of the Church that we, and they, ultimately know are tools of the enemy. But they worship another God, like all do who see salvation in payslips, living standards, and social acceptance.
Women will come into the Church and preach peace where they mean submission. Old, washed-up priests of whatever persuasion will hem and haw, nod their heads at angry words, but secretly despise young men with more intelligence than they ever had. And under the claws of women, eunuchs, and a drowning society, you will hope to bind us.
Here's one man saying: No f*cking way. If the Church goes, then I am the Church. If the Church practices not the faith, then we are the faith. And we made no vows, and need show no mercy beyond our heart's content. But as of yet, God has not invested us with power.
Pray be the day comes soon. I know what the heretics need.
they are just acting using God’s name and the Holy Spirit in vain. This is just a cover up to pretend to take decisions, the ones who are part of it are the ones selected, quite easy to come to a common understanding. Lord have mercy on your Church and those who redeemed by your blood. The simple good willed Catholics and Clergy are just too naive to see the truth…
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Its being predicted at Fatima by our Blessed Mother that the Catholic Church will go through chastisement and crisis from within.. THIS IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW IN ROME.. Satan has successfully infiltrated the Church hierachy causing confusion, and chaos... she said PRAY PRAY PRAY THE ROSARY.... MD 😢😢😢
Synod needs to focus also on repentance. Entering to the whole communion in the Church is though repentance and conversion. Without this Church will be profaned indstead of sanctified.
So sad
Ludwig, the "roots" say a man can never become a woman. The Sacrament of Matrimony is about a man and a woman and not between a woman and another woman, nor between a man and another man.
God Bless our Beloved Holy Father Pope Francis, the Holy Spirit is with you the Synod and Church. Amen 🙏🙏🙏
Well, at least one person is sure of that . . .
Did Cardinal Cupich's boyfriend attend the Synod with him?
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The worst Pope in the last 200 years 👎🏼👎🏼👎🏼
Possibly in history.
The most dangerous one, that's for sure
It all sounds like feel good religion to me. Not the ONE HOLY CATHOLIC APOSTOLIC Church I entered in 1953.
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How is this focusing on God and the church when some ideas being presented would be encouraging sinful actions!
If LGBT persons want a public ceremonial blessing from the church I suggest that it takes the form of publicly repeating the baptismal vows at Easter along with the rest of the congregation. .In other words that they be treated exactly the same as every other Catholic wishing to publicly show repentance and seeking the Lord's mercy. This would be in line with the popes guidance and church dogma.They may wish to stand together at the front of the congregation but preferably in such a way that they always remain visibly a part of their parish and the body of Christ. Their blessing should be part of a communal blessing for everyone present not something separate causing division in the church.
Yeah but that wouldn't fit into the idea of PRIDE for your sins, that Francis is devotedly slipping past the door whilst we watch like sheep
@@marymoloney5784 "Any sexual relationship outside marriage"
Who cares about sexual relationships outside marriage? Marriage is just a way of sacramentally ordaining the natural union between man and woman. I believe marriage is beautiful, but I am decidedly not worried about men and women having sex, wherever they please. I am disturbed by man and man or woman and woman being touted as equal relationships in defiance of nature. To defy nature is to choose death. This isn't about sexual proclivities, this is a death cult.
Let man desire woman, and let men with daughters or wives institute systems to protect those women. Marriage is a natural instinct.
I renounce anything less than the heteronormative passion, and accept no one else but the self-declared eunuchs who have professed themselves servants of God and his Church.
Elżbieta Muskała Pani domu Thomasa Aly Edisona 1/4, 📕🎨🖌️🖐️,🌹
This was a waste of time, said nothing.Mother Angelica would have been ashamed of this "news".
SSPX
The world is rushing towards environmental conditions that will not support human life, and yet almost all critics of the Pope are wringing their hands over the possibility of blessing humans whose love for each other frightens or confuses them.
My friend, this is not love; it's lust. And they will perish in hell for all eternity. The Church should love them by telling this truth. Don't you agree that our eternal destiny (heaven or hell) is the most important concern in life?
“9. Know you not that the unjust shall not possess the kingdom of God? Do not err: Neither fornicators nor idolaters nor adulterers: 10. Nor the effeminate nor liers with mankind nor thieves nor covetous nor drunkards nor railers nor extortioners shall possess the kingdom of God.” (1Cor 6:9-10)
@@blakemorgan8777 your judgement of the heart (or actions) of another seems no more reliable than Paul’s list of sins, taken from his own mind and certainly not attributable to Christ, whose new covenant tends to be ignored by many “traditionalists.”
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😂 This is a Kabuki show. Francis uses this as a smokescreen for his radical agenda. His dismissal of ideas HE disagrees with he terms heretical. What utter nonsense blessing gay unions. Just read Paul’s epistles and you have a context.
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