Thanks for the content. OITC is a much better "soundproof" measure than STC. STC was developed to measure sound movement inside a building (interior walls). OITC (Outdoor/indoor transmission Class) measures the typical noises from airports, cars, roadwork.... The sound waves created inside a house are different then exterior sound waves which is why OITC was developed and STC ratings are discouraged in architectural specs. STC is better known but OITC (published by most window manufacturers) is a much better sound blocking measurement. Thanks again for the content.
Thank you. Beautiful teaching and presentation. I’ll be going for STC windows where needed, as soon as I purchase my home. I don’t care what they cost! Finally want peace and quiet. City now with single pain has nearly destroyed me. I was suburbs before that, though still plagued bc of big defense dogs next door and across. I was country before that, but health and financial loss caused a long delay getting back to it. And, ironically bc of sleep loss and interference with work this doubled recovery delay. Shame on selfish and rude neighbors.
Thank you for sharing! I appreciate how you are detailed in informing the customer of the many choices & things we just aren’t aware of. Continued success!!!💯
Thanks for explaining how this works and the available options. The master bedroom windows face our neighbor's driveway and we hear them all the time, the sound reduction would be great to have.
Interesting, thanks. I'm interested to see how the other factors impact the transmission-frame design, install etc. I have Pella 250s and a noisy neighbour with a big bass system & it sucks somedays!
What makes a studio grade window so quiet is a combination of the many things. One of them being the glass, which is similar to the glass I am describing in my video, and the other is the dead airspace between the panes of glass. The greater the dead airspace the quieter the window will be.
Thank you. Are you guys in Florida? I live near the Orlando FL airport and got an estimate to replace the windows from single to double pane. Don’t know how much noise reduction will get. I need help
I need those airport windows. I live too close to two hospitals in San Diego and I hear their rescue helicopters. Never heard anything louder. Do you have any contacts out here in San Diego, California, who might carry those triple pane secondary windows? Thank you. You'd be saving me from going insane.
Hi Jeff. Im a window cleaner in Clear Lake. We have a neighborhood where they put in those 4-sash double plus single windows. That's 8 surfaces for us to clean. That's not my complaint. Problem is that there are parts of the between surfaces that cant be cleaned. Our customers were told that the inner surfaces would never get dirty. I hope the ones you sell dont have this problem. Its a neighborhood of very unhappy customers.
I don't sell anything that sounds like that. I can't tell you that any triple pain or double pain unit that we sell is completely sealed from the exterior contaminants. If for some reason the last word to fail, that would be under a warranty for at least 20 years and it would be replaced for free.
I started a website where you can find a great window dealer in your area. These are companies that I know personally and can recommend. Check out TheWindowExperts.com
Great info and videos! I went to your website, submitted my window issues(NOISE = neighbor dogs+airplane landing zone) on your website's own form; hoping to get window make recommendations for laminated acoustic windows as well as their installer info for my area of greater Nashville, TN. I was redirected to add a comment to this video. Hopefully, I can get some info on these type of laminated acoustic windows. At this time, it would be for two bedroom windows only(opening approx 36"x72" ea.) with 2x4 exterior wall studs. Thank you!
The high STC windows I know of are not available in your area. I would have to send you to a local dealer who knows your product availability in your area.
The same principles apply. Sometimes, you cannot fit laminated glass inside of a triple pane unit. And in that case, it will limit how much Sound reduction you can get from a triple pane window.
@@HoustonWindowExperts Thanks for the reply! I see conflicting information online - are triple pane generally more soundproof than double or similar? All other things being equal.
@@joshua_a_boehm the airsapce between the sheets of glass is important. If you have a triple pane, usually you have less airspace beetween layers. For example: If you have a dual pane (6mm + 6mmm glass) window with 12mm airspace, let's call it "A" window, and you have "B" window with the same glass, but with 200mm airspace, "B" will have almost double the performance, even though it uses the same glass sheets. The closer the glasses to each other, the bigger the sound transmission is. The most important thing when it comes to soundproofing is that you need to understand that every glass has a week point. For example a 4mm glass almost let's through the 4 Khz sounds. While a 10mm glass will completey kills the 4 Khz, but has an issue with 1Khz sounds. That's why an offset glass is great, because the different sheets of glasses have different weekpoints. What one can't do, the other can, and vice versa. You need at least a 25mm glass to have absolutely no weak points, but these glasses are not meant for windows. The window and glass you need to choose really depends on what sounds you want to block out. Traffic noise is around 200-250 Hz, to block low frequency sounds, you need mass. I.e. the thicker the glass, the better it will block the low frequency sounds. I read Peter Lord and Duncan Templeton's book about acoustics when I was planning to order my soundproofing windows. I ended up with a double pane window: 10mm glass + 26 airgap filled with argon gas + a 4.2.4 laminated glass as the 2nd layer (that's two 4mm glass laminated together). With this I got STC 44. As far as I know, you can reach STC 48-50, but for that you need two laminated glass in an offset setup, and that's really expensieve for +4-5 decibel reduction, so not really worth it. At this level, the weekpoint will be not the glass itself, but the rubber seal around the window. Previously I had a regular 4mm + 4mm double pane window. With this STC 44 setup the reduction is absolutely massive. Night and day.
Hi. I am a student at the University of East London- Docklands Campus, I am studying sound engineering. The school is adjacent to London City Airport, and there is a lot of noise during the take-off and landing of the planes. I really wish to help reduce the noise levels within the school and the community. How can this be achieved? Is it financially feasible?
Dang it... I wish I could be of more help. If you find a great window installer for your project, please share their information with me. I would love to add them to my list. The best thing you can do for now is get a double pane window that has offset glass.
Thanks for the content. OITC is a much better "soundproof" measure than STC. STC was developed to measure sound movement inside a building (interior walls). OITC (Outdoor/indoor transmission Class) measures the typical noises from airports, cars, roadwork.... The sound waves created inside a house are different then exterior sound waves which is why OITC was developed and STC ratings are discouraged in architectural specs. STC is better known but OITC (published by most window manufacturers) is a much better sound blocking measurement. Thanks again for the content.
Thanks @chuckkoval926 for the accurate information!!
Thank you. Beautiful teaching and presentation. I’ll be going for STC windows where needed, as soon as I purchase my home. I don’t care what they cost! Finally want peace and quiet. City now with single pain has nearly destroyed me. I was suburbs before that, though still plagued bc of big defense dogs next door and across. I was country before that, but health and financial loss caused a long delay getting back to it. And, ironically bc of sleep loss and interference with work this doubled recovery delay. Shame on selfish and rude neighbors.
Thank you for sharing! I appreciate how you are detailed in informing the customer of the many choices & things we just aren’t aware of. Continued success!!!💯
Thank you for watching and your comment.
Thanks for explaining how this works and the available options. The master bedroom windows face our neighbor's driveway and we hear them all the time, the sound reduction would be great to have.
Really enjoyed the video Jeff, great information really well presented!
Thanks, Greg
Thank you so much for this video. Super helpful.
Interesting, thanks. I'm interested to see how the other factors impact the transmission-frame design, install etc. I have Pella 250s and a noisy neighbour with a big bass system & it sucks somedays!
Thanks, very informative.
Super helpful in my consideration of replacing my windows.
Great explanation . Thanks 🙏
Thank you for the video. 👋🙂
Great information mr Jeff
Thank you for watching
What kind of glasses are used in broadcasting studios that achieve nearly 100% sound insulation between the production partition and normal areas?
What makes a studio grade window so quiet is a combination of the many things. One of them being the glass, which is similar to the glass I am describing in my video, and the other is the dead airspace between the panes of glass. The greater the dead airspace the quieter the window will be.
Thanks for sharing, really appreciate it, how is the STC for VIG?
This was incredibly helpful! Thank you for doing this!
Great!
Thank you. Are you guys in Florida? I live near the Orlando FL airport and got an estimate to replace the windows from single to double pane. Don’t know how much noise reduction will get. I need help
I started a website to help people locate a great window company near them. We may have someone in your area. Please visit TheWindowExperts.com
I need those airport windows. I live too close to two hospitals in San Diego and I hear their rescue helicopters. Never heard anything louder. Do you have any contacts out here in San Diego, California, who might carry those triple pane secondary windows? Thank you. You'd be saving me from going insane.
I started a website to help people locate a great window company near them. We may have someone in your area. Please visit TheWindowExperts.com
Hi Jeff. Im a window cleaner in Clear Lake. We have a neighborhood where they put in those 4-sash double plus single windows. That's 8 surfaces for us to clean. That's not my complaint.
Problem is that there are parts of the between surfaces that cant be cleaned. Our customers were told that the inner surfaces would never get dirty.
I hope the ones you sell dont have this problem. Its a neighborhood of very unhappy customers.
I don't sell anything that sounds like that. I can't tell you that any triple pain or double pain unit that we sell is completely sealed from the exterior contaminants. If for some reason the last word to fail, that would be under a warranty for at least 20 years and it would be replaced for free.
Thank you! Do you have a contact with STC windows near Doylestown, PA?
I started a website where you can find a great window dealer in your area. These are companies that I know personally and can recommend. Check out TheWindowExperts.com
do you ship outside the US?
Great info and videos! I went to your website, submitted my window issues(NOISE = neighbor dogs+airplane landing zone) on your website's own form; hoping to get window make recommendations for laminated acoustic windows as well as their installer info for my area of greater Nashville, TN. I was redirected to add a comment to this video. Hopefully, I can get some info on these type of laminated acoustic windows. At this time, it would be for two bedroom windows only(opening approx 36"x72" ea.) with 2x4 exterior wall studs. Thank you!
The high STC windows I know of are not available in your area. I would have to send you to a local dealer who knows your product availability in your area.
How do standard triple pane windows compare to these other options?
The same principles apply. Sometimes, you cannot fit laminated glass inside of a triple pane unit. And in that case, it will limit how much Sound reduction you can get from a triple pane window.
@@HoustonWindowExperts
Thanks for the reply! I see conflicting information online - are triple pane generally more soundproof than double or similar? All other things being equal.
@@joshua_a_boehm the airsapce between the sheets of glass is important. If you have a triple pane, usually you have less airspace beetween layers. For example: If you have a dual pane (6mm + 6mmm glass) window with 12mm airspace, let's call it "A" window, and you have "B" window with the same glass, but with 200mm airspace, "B" will have almost double the performance, even though it uses the same glass sheets. The closer the glasses to each other, the bigger the sound transmission is.
The most important thing when it comes to soundproofing is that you need to understand that every glass has a week point. For example a 4mm glass almost let's through the 4 Khz sounds. While a 10mm glass will completey kills the 4 Khz, but has an issue with 1Khz sounds. That's why an offset glass is great, because the different sheets of glasses have different weekpoints. What one can't do, the other can, and vice versa. You need at least a 25mm glass to have absolutely no weak points, but these glasses are not meant for windows.
The window and glass you need to choose really depends on what sounds you want to block out. Traffic noise is around 200-250 Hz, to block low frequency sounds, you need mass. I.e. the thicker the glass, the better it will block the low frequency sounds.
I read Peter Lord and Duncan Templeton's book about acoustics when I was planning to order my soundproofing windows. I ended up with a double pane window: 10mm glass + 26 airgap filled with argon gas + a 4.2.4 laminated glass as the 2nd layer (that's two 4mm glass laminated together). With this I got STC 44. As far as I know, you can reach STC 48-50, but for that you need two laminated glass in an offset setup, and that's really expensieve for +4-5 decibel reduction, so not really worth it. At this level, the weekpoint will be not the glass itself, but the rubber seal around the window.
Previously I had a regular 4mm + 4mm double pane window. With this STC 44 setup the reduction is absolutely massive. Night and day.
Hi. I am a student at the University of East London- Docklands Campus, I am studying sound engineering. The school is adjacent to London City Airport, and there is a lot of noise during the take-off and landing of the planes. I really wish to help reduce the noise levels within the school and the community. How can this be achieved? Is it financially feasible?
Sound reduction is costly. I'd seek out a high STC window.
My right side spring is loose how do I put it back?
That will require a technician with the right tools. I'm sorry that I cannot help you with that question.
What about triple pane windows? How do those fare?
When it comes to sound reduction, having an offset double pane window will do better than an equal triple pane would.
What if you don’t have access to that kind of window and no one in your area knows what “STC” means?
I started a website to help people locate a great window company near them. We may have someone in your area. Please visit TheWindowExperts.com
I’ve actually already done that and the response was that y’all don’t know anyone in my area.
Dang it... I wish I could be of more help. If you find a great window installer for your project, please share their information with me. I would love to add them to my list.
The best thing you can do for now is get a double pane window that has offset glass.
Just get some hurricane impact windows like five ViWinco. Great sound reduction.
You didn’t say how they work but how to measure how well they work.
Check this out.
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Fucken amazing 👏