I feel like one of main differences between Kosem and Hurrem was that Ahmed gave Kosem everything quite quickly (the title of Haseki, Harem etc) and everyone already loved Kosem. But Hurrem had to fight everything and everyone (from being chosen as concubine, to Hasekis title, to giving birth and getting married) and had to face lot of people like Ibrahim,Valide etc
15:31 This scene were Safiye looks back at Kosem gives me goosebumps,it’s similar to the scene when Hurrem was crowned and Mahidevran looked at her like that
25:02 hurrem sultan also entered the harem in episode 44 that way. The connection between the two is true!!! Long live hurrem sultan, long live kosem sultan.
There should not be any comparision between Hurrem & Kosem.Hurren saw one sultan. Kosem saw 6 ottoman sultan on throne and practically decided who to sit on that throne and when. She ruled ottoman dynasty for 32 years both domestic and international. Sulaiman was a strong sultan over everyone's head. Kosem lost sultan Ahmed at young age. Long story short, the moment and the way kosem handled ottoman dynasty is worth a lot. She sustained ottoman dynasty
Yes....Kosem saw the 6 Sultans and also 3 of them was controlling and guarding by her as virtual head government...None other Sultanas can't predicted her achievement
@@Celestia-e9jlol if Süleyman died Hürrem would've been instantly crushed and long forgotten. You can't even compare magnificent valide Kösem Sultan to Hürrem who hid behind Süleyman
Yeah, like how Hürrem started it all she was the first woman to be crowned in ottoman history, first woman that was involved in politics she started everything she open the doors for everyone after her not to mention shewasn’t killed
Love this! Hurrem and Kosem are my favorite Sultanas. However. I do like Safiye in her own right, because she was raised and taught by Mirrhima, (who then took down Nurbanu, ugh- show Nurbanu). Mirrhima learned at Hurrem's knee then to Safiye to Kosem. Though I do like the walk scene, I would find it perfect for her to turn and see her crowned with Hurrem's crown.
Neither Safiye or Mihirmah never took down Nurbanu though. Nurbanu basically died of natural causes and Safiye filled up the power vacuum. The hate towards show Nurbanu is complete nonsense.
@princess7jasmine I mean, everyone should realize this is not based on actual history. Also, everyone loves a good villain. I kinda look at the hate of certain characters as they did their acting job well you know? I personally love the acting and stuff but as a historian I scoff and go that didn't happen all the time 😂
@@MrA1R1S That isn't true. It's basically just a fan theory of Nurbanu haters in the Magnificent Century fandom. Safiye was banished when Nurbanu died of natural causes.
If Hurrem hadn't accomplished all that she accomplished as a concubine of Suleyman and set precedence for what can be achieved as a concubine of a Sultan if you're smart enough, Kosem wouldn't have had the opportunity to become Kosem. Give credit where it's due. Hurrem gave these women the opportunity to become something more than just breeding vessels.
No one sultanas can t be like Hurrem Sultana. She was amazing, powerful, intelligent. She was really a magnific woman! But also Kosem was a bit like Hurrem in her epoch
@@OmerFaruk-f1iin what? Thanks to hurrem they had the titles and power bc hurrem paved the way for the sultanate of woman, stop being delusional. Hurrem eats them alone, she did everything from nothing.
15:31. Hurrem sultana was standing there when she was announced as the bas haseki sultan and ruler of harem, while mahidevran stands where safiye sultan is.
Hurrem's most battles came to an end as she got older, but Kosems just started after death of Ahmed. Her real battles were everthing that happened after the death of Ahmed (from Mustafa being sultan till the day Kosem died)
19:54 the way Ahmed speaks about hurrem sultana :))) with so much respect on his voice and look. Hurrem sultanas legacy remained, nobody remembers that Mustafa nor mahidevil
Prince mustafa is remembered as a hero and most people love him. Hurrem is hated by many people. It seems you are russian so you respect and love her but hurrem is so hated by islamic people
@@ΔημΣΚ everybody where? You mean in europe or russia. I am talking about islamic and Arab world just see how much they hate hurrem and respect mustafa. You are too stuborn and there is no mean in arguing
I really like the crown of Hurrem and later Kosem wear it. But too bad that we didn't see Nurgul and Vahide with these crown they already have a natural majestic air but the crown would have been even more successful than on Hurrem (Meryem) and Kosem (Beren) even if the actresses are quite good.
6:59 A minute of silence for this poor Haci stuck between Kosem and Ahmed (good pass the sentence humor it must be stressful to work for the Sultan and the Sultanas even if they are very competent)
Some people say cosem was most smart or powerfull than hurrem, I think they re wrong , yes cosem was an charge of harem and soliters but has a weck sultan he was not even 10% of suleyman power, was more complicate to control suleyman than the sultan of cosem time
People say that Kosem herself is powerful... I'm myself a Hurrem lover... But I have to admit that Kosem is more powerful... She not only governed state matters but also the Harem... And the biggest thing is that she was still standing after everything.. She lost her husband and 2 sons but still fought back both politically and in the harem.. But since Suleyman was a powerful Sultan, Hurrem didn't have to interfere in state matters that much...
I'm seeing everyone is telling that hurram is more powerfull than kosem..but no..what a foolish thought.. Kosem rules the world for a while.. She was "nabek".. She pretended as if she got throne after ahmed's die..but hurram's world was just about her children and suleiman..
Ps.: back to history ahmed´s harem. acording to my personaly reasearch was kosem truly second wife ahmed I (leslie perci- kosem was greeck or bosnian origin and second or third wife- haseki) borekci said that ahmed had in 15.3.1605 at least 5 daughters leslie perci said that while kosem was third or second haseki ahmed I. there was a another haseki who became valide sultan between years 1618-1621/22 died at 1620. but it wasn´t mahfiruze because she died soon. in 1618 was built tomb owr his grave. according to tezcan she could died afther was her second born son was born (according to pecevi 3august 1605) these son could died soon afther his born 1612 acording to ambassador lost two of his son. and som historians claim that she had a son in 1612.leslie perci said that orhan was born 1610/09-1612 at the same times when george sandys describe dead mahfiruze 1610 and that vallier and cortarini marked another son from her whose lived and died. achile de harley also demonstrated that in 1614(1605) osman started became orphan his mother died and his brother died as well. gevherhan wife okuz mehmed pasha was daughter kosem according to george sandys ahmed let married her at her age foure (gerge sandys in egypt) this daughter was acording to mustafa naima and necdet sakaoglu daughter kosem unnamed wife - unamed daughter 1603- mayby died in 1605-1606 daugther 1605-married during the reing her brother unnamed son (mahmud 8.3.1605) mahmud I sultan 1618- january 1621 valide sultan his mother died 1620/1 kosem haseki gevherhan sultan 15.11.1603 hatice sultan 15.11.1603-1606(mystake for kosem sultan) sehzade mehmed do 15.11.1605 ayse sultan fifth daughter ahmed I to the 15.3.1605(twin sehzade mehmed fatma sultan 24.5.1606 unnamed sehzade 24.5.1606-1609? handzade sultan 1607 mahfiruze sultan(third wife - bas kadin) 1604-1605 osman II 1621-1622 unnamed son 3 august 1605(source pecevi- celebrating was giving his mother died one months afther his biorth or 1606-no more- mother died soon afther his birth
I do wish there was a scene somewhere where Safiye Sultan took the ring tv Nurbanu stole from Hurrem's dead body - and the crown featured here was shown passing through Sultanas' possession successively - when Hurrem was aged she never wore it again NOR did tv Nurbanu nor tv Safiye. But fact was - at least on the tv show- BOTH the ring & crown were exclusively forged for a historic precedent 😮
Kosem was more political in state matters. Hurrem was also good in ruling a country too but the show does not SHOW that. Wish they had kept that cool detail of hers.
Hurrem sultan was just ruling harem's concubines,her daughter s husband rustem and did some charity work while kosem ruled the whole empire as a sultan
we do not not name this sehzade but some source mention him as a ottoman (son ahmed I) propably surname for unknown son son. this son should had became ottoman sultan during 1618-1621. his mother died in 1620. there small history mystake but many source from ambassadors mention sehzade mahmud as second born son. mayby mystake for sehzade born 15.11,1603
Kosem is an angel, after horrible manipulative Hurrem, even worse than her Nurbanu and Safiye it is time to have sultana I can be a fan of. Kosem is the best, I love her Innocence and pure heart❤
At some point I give a pity to Safiye, this all happened just because Kosem is naive and young, don't know what it takes to become Valide Sultan. Later Kosem was totally change and become more monstrous than Safiye
If she had children, that could explain the hair change. My mom had light blonde hair when she was younger. With every child she had, her hair got darker. She has light brown hair now.
On a note totally unrelated to the story, The actress who played Kosem at this stage of her life has the most beautiful face, and her natural brows are magnificent. I wish I could have brows like hers, they are absolutely perfect. Somehow, I must have missed the episode where she turned from blonde hair to black and this actress took her place. The older Kosem resembles this Kosem greatly but her sudden addition to the show after Murad was crowned didn't make sense either. At least Hurrem's changes made sense in the timeline of her life story. But aside from the sickness and hard days of her kidnapping, there was no reason really for her to age so rapidly. Many women at that age look lovely still, and Hurrem died young. I know WHY from a production viewpoint the story changed and she came back looking aged by 20 years due to the contract disputes. but did this also happen with the actresses who played the part of Kosem?
Neither in the 156 episodes of magnificent century of Suleiman nor that of Ahmed could I find a women who was of Hurrem's match . not even kosem or nurbanu or safiye , no one . i love hurrem
true story kosem.: in years 1603 ahmed saw concubine he felt in love to her and saduced her. she became pregnant. this ahmed´s mother furiies. she let her punished by whipe and expeled from palace. when ahmed became a sultan ahmed I. he wants to now what is with her. he lerned about theyre children. daughters he order to brought them back. he made from her his haseki. and theyre daughters got name gevherhan and ayse. and 8.3.1605 gave birth her the first son mehmed. mayby third daughter fatma
main reason why historians cannot identified all sons and all daugthers ahmed I is because they change gorgian kalender with julians kalendar. but according to my personality reaserch Ahmed I had since 1603-1606 at least 7 or 10 sons and at least 7 or 10 daughters it is verry complicate change georgians and julians kalendar that ´s why one sehzade had three or more dates of birth for example sehzade mehmed son kosem - mehmed tezcan born 8.3.1605 borekci born 11.3.1605 pecevi 3.8.1605 everythink is corret. there are an another sehzadeler. mehmed suyera said that osman II was born 15.11.1603 but historians said that he was born 4.11.1604 ottaviano bon 1609 he had three woman two sons and three daughters. ps. I found that ottaviano bon is ambassador constatinopol janury 1605 which mean that he must wrote this sooner than 1609. this situacion also discribed historians suyera son born 15.11.1603 all historians 4.11.1604(ps while historians said that osman II was born 4.11.1604 as a first born son ahmed I pietro della valle said that second born son was mahmud not from kosem these two sons osman and mahmud were born infront of first born son of kosem mehmed 8.3.1605 now be carreful. tezcan said that during birth ahmed s two first born sons ahmed already had her the first born daughter. this situacion also discribed historians. gevherhan b.1608 ayse b.1608( the most of historians) there is no a doupt that ottaviano bon marked three daughters ahmed I january 1605. lealie perci also discribed that in that same time was born an another daughter hatice but she died yong. so we have three daughters and two sons january 1605 this situacion also discribed privy purse he said that there si mother without sehzade also discribed at least three daughters infront of born sehzade 4,11,1604. registr palace marked daughters as gevherhan, ayse, fatma,hatice. proopably one is daughter safyie or handan gevherhan and ayse could had been from kosem, and hatice and osman couldhad been from one, or two woman. a little bit confusion. I show you in nushle how it should look list ahmed´s children hatice, 1603 sehzade 15.11,1603 gevherhan and ayse - from kosem son 4.11.1604 unnomed daughter born march 1605- some thing that these daughters is gevherhan but this is ron my personality calculation said that gevherhan and ayse were born infront of january 1605. borekci also said that ahmed had 14. 3.1605 at least five daughters the most famouse are gevherhan and ayse from kosem. now you understand why it is so difficult identified all children of ahmed I current eu source said that kosem started to be in harem since 1603(this situacion also discribed aldersona and sakaoglu they said that mehmed III had concubine name mahpeyker propably mystake with kosem.) also said that at that time when kosem show there there was a another woman with whom had dAUGHTER HATICE died yong
Should Kosem be concerned with the baby in the arms of that concubine? Heck, I am surprised that she did not ask someone to check if that child is a boy or a girl.
Magnificent Century is about Suleiman the magnificent and Hürrem Sultan. Magnificent Century:Kosem , is about Sultan Ahmed and Kösem Sultan. Ahmed was Suleimans great great grandson
while we speake about harem of ahmed I during the reign of ahmed I were aperence at least two woman. one who she had saduced to him as a sehzade . and another who was apearence her self at that time when ahmed felt empty for lost his brother mahmud. this (kosem was expeled with hers daughters- gevherhan and ayse/fatma the first gave him birth sehzade born 15.11.1603 and daghter hatice. mahfiruze the mother osman II was the third wife. she died in august 1605 afther difficult birth her second son who died soon afther his birth. this sehzade was propably sehazde orhan 3 august 1605-1606. mahfiruz third with ahmed I died in august 1605
Ps: found new one ottaviano bon 1609 ahmed had two sons an three daugters from three woman. this letter was subcribe by ambassadors january 1605 - before born sehzade mehmed another ambasador mention fact that ahmed didn´t allowed kosem visited her step eldest sons. it is possible that infront of january 1605 had ahmed I three woman and three daughter and two sons. yeas it is historians says that as well.: sicilii osmany said that osman II was born 15.11.1603 while others historians agree that osman II was born 4.11.1604. historians says that infront of january 1605 had ahmed I two sons. not from kosem . this sons was born infront of mehmed 8/11.3.1605. with these two sons didn´t had kosem anny relationship (not with mehmed). so now we have mentions about three sons mayby foure sons son was born 15.11.1603 Osman II born 4.11.1604 sehzade mehmed 8/11.3.1605 kosem had son 8.3.1605, and ahmed I HAD SONS INFROTN of sehzade mehmed. with these two eldest sons(not mehmed) hadn´t had kosem anny relationship . daughters. he had three daughters. ottaviano bon 1609 historians also subcribe this situacion. ayse and gevherhan were born 1605/1608. infront of 1609. leslie perci also mention that there were another daughter hatice 1608-1610 three daughter infront of january 1605 Ps.: privy purce since janury 1603-may 1605: hatice sultan sehzadegan- from 600 to 100(mahmud was executed and halime started get 100 akce) ayse sultan fatma sultan ayse sultan gevherhan sultan(daughter ahmed I january 1604 is mention in privy purse. it is possible that ayse as well). mother mehmed III(safyie ultan leave top kapi palace 1604) valide sultan 3000 how we can see that mention about hatice, ayse, gevherhan are in january 1603-Janury 1604. guhman borekci also mention that 15.5.1605 had ahmed I at least five daughters. the most famouse are from kosem gevherhan and ayse. cortarini also mention that ahmed I SADUced yong concubine and many ambasadors says that there was a woman who was exepeled with two daughters(kosem exepeled with her daughters ayse and gevherhan) privy purse also mention born another daughter in march 1605 not from kosem. some people thought that it was gevherhan but not mention about gevherhan is infront of born Osman II how should it look harem ahmed I unnamed son 15.11.1603 there are also mention about three daughter at that time hatice sultan gevherhan ayse osman II 4.11.1604 sehzade mehmed 8/11.3.1605 there is no for sure that mehmed was born according to tezcan 8.3.1605 or according to borekci 11.3.1603. it is possible that there could had been another sehzade and that time together with mehmed was born another daughter kosem fatma(many historians agree that at 160ř had kosem at least 3 daughters and one son. unnamed daughters mother unknown. propably is her mother mother who gave birth hatice and osman or the second eldest son.
That's not true sultana ranking according to power is 1. Kosem sultan (Valide muazama who ruled whole empire as a king ) 2.Turhan sultan ( valide sultan who equally shared power with her son) 3.Safiye sultan ( valide sultan sultan with too much power who can even dethrone a sultan) 5.Halime sultan ( sultan's favorite and twice valide sultan and ruled ottoman empire and it's army directly acting as regent for her son mustafa) 5.Hatice sultan (according to series most powerful imperial princess as well as Grand vazier wife who controls harem and everyone bows to her) 6.Hureem sultan ( Great Haseki sultan of Suleiman the magnificent and his children's mother) 7.Hasfsa Valide sultan (A traditional and powerful sultana who can guide her son and manage the harem in best way) 8.Dilruba sultan ( a sultana who protects her brother from death whole life and in end succeeded to make his brother a sultan) 9.Mihrimah sultan (Ottoman princess trying to protect her brothers but shown a little childish just under her mother's power not too much powerful) 10.Nurbanu sultan (Just cunning and clever sultana not too much powerful according to series) According to series these 10 sultana's carry the show
There is no comparison in between Hurrem and Kosem. Yeah Hurrem had to fought for everything even sultan's love but Kosem got her sultan's love even before she desired for it. Hurrem's world is about her sultan and children. While Kosem had to took reign of the empire in young age and fought for power to keep her children alive. Janssiri obeyed her more than her son who later took throne that shows how much power she got in her time. Most importantly she lost Ahmed at young age, leaving her vulnerable and alone to power struggle. Hurrem always had Suleiman by her side till she died.
No one can beat Kosem Sultana . Hurrem was very cruel, she kills Mustafa while Kosem fights for her step children's...love U to the moon and sky Kosem Sultana❤❤
When Hurrem became the ruler of harem. The whole palace was bowing to her. She also died with all her children and grandkids and husband crying for the woman she was. With kosem i dont like how her character became so cold to her own blood.
This is ridiculous!!!! It took Hürrem a DECADE and 4 children (3 Şehzade) to have the right to wear that crown and Kosem is given after being in the harem FOR A FEW MONTS! SHE ISN’T EVEN A SULTANA AT THIS POINT!!!! This is insulting to all the things that Hürrem Sultana hâd to go through to get to this point and terrible writing.
ps. gevherhan sultan cannot been born in march 1605 from an another concubine. pecevi I gave you my three years old daughter. von hammer said that that pecevi is marked this 1607/08 george sandys said that ahmed let married his foure age old daughter to okuz mehmed pasha . now bee carreful. take dates 1607-4=1603 how it is wrote ottaviono bon. ps.: why geroge sandys said that the mother of first born son gave titul sultan. cortarini twice discribed that the mother gevherhan is haseki- or kosem since 1603
I feel like one of main differences between Kosem and Hurrem was that Ahmed gave Kosem everything quite quickly (the title of Haseki, Harem etc) and everyone already loved Kosem. But Hurrem had to fight everything and everyone (from being chosen as concubine, to Hasekis title, to giving birth and getting married) and had to face lot of people like Ibrahim,Valide etc
I gree❤❤❤
Literally, kösem was given that title without even giving birth to kids
@@Noname990__ exactly, while (in series) Hürrem was still called hatun by many people even after giving birth Mehmet !
Yes. KOSEM GOT IT BUT HURREM EARNED IT
@@ImGhost-nk9nvbut kosem had a long battle after ahmed died for which she is known for
15:31 This scene were Safiye looks back at Kosem gives me goosebumps,it’s similar to the scene when Hurrem was crowned and Mahidevran looked at her like that
25:02 hurrem sultan also entered the harem in episode 44 that way. The connection between the two is true!!! Long live hurrem sultan, long live kosem sultan.
Do you know what long live means ?
@@the.baboshka4460 yes
@@ΔημΣΚ girl they died years and years already
@@erlynsara1723 I know
@@ΔημΣΚ why did u say long live then
She control all empire when her son murad was a 10 year old Sultan .... That enough to prove how powerful was she
There should not be any comparision between Hurrem & Kosem.Hurren saw one sultan. Kosem saw 6 ottoman sultan on throne and practically decided who to sit on that throne and when. She ruled ottoman dynasty for 32 years both domestic and international.
Sulaiman was a strong sultan over everyone's head. Kosem lost sultan Ahmed at young age. Long story short, the moment and the way kosem handled ottoman dynasty is worth a lot. She sustained ottoman dynasty
Yes....Kosem saw the 6 Sultans and also 3 of them was controlling and guarding by her as virtual head government...None other Sultanas can't predicted her achievement
Seems to me Hurrem’s time was stable and Kosem sowed nothing but chaos and death.
If Süleyman died at little bit young age,and hürrəm quickly made Mustafa kill by her servants,she would also ruled ottoman empire behind his sons
@@Celestia-e9jlol if Süleyman died Hürrem would've been instantly crushed and long forgotten. You can't even compare magnificent valide Kösem Sultan to Hürrem who hid behind Süleyman
Yeah, like how Hürrem started it all she was the first woman to be crowned in ottoman history, first woman that was involved in politics she started everything she open the doors for everyone after her not to mention shewasn’t killed
Hurrem and kosem both are my favourite one.i like the way they handle the situation,their confidence, and dignity.
Hurrem can not be compared to Kesem, Hurrem is a real queen!
Love this! Hurrem and Kosem are my favorite Sultanas. However. I do like Safiye in her own right, because she was raised and taught by Mirrhima, (who then took down Nurbanu, ugh- show Nurbanu).
Mirrhima learned at Hurrem's knee then to Safiye to Kosem.
Though I do like the walk scene, I would find it perfect for her to turn and see her crowned with Hurrem's crown.
Neither Safiye or Mihirmah never took down Nurbanu though. Nurbanu basically died of natural causes and Safiye filled up the power vacuum. The hate towards show Nurbanu is complete nonsense.
@@princess7jasmine 9
@princess7jasmine I mean, everyone should realize this is not based on actual history. Also, everyone loves a good villain. I kinda look at the hate of certain characters as they did their acting job well you know? I personally love the acting and stuff but as a historian I scoff and go that didn't happen all the time 😂
@@princess7jasmineit is said that Safiye poisoned Nurbanu
@@MrA1R1S That isn't true. It's basically just a fan theory of Nurbanu haters in the Magnificent Century fandom. Safiye was banished when Nurbanu died of natural causes.
VALIDE MAUZIMEY KÖSEM SULTAN 👑❤️ she doesn't need someone else's personality to define her She was walking perfection May God have mercy on her soul
If Hurrem hadn't accomplished all that she accomplished as a concubine of Suleyman and set precedence for what can be achieved as a concubine of a Sultan if you're smart enough, Kosem wouldn't have had the opportunity to become Kosem. Give credit where it's due. Hurrem gave these women the opportunity to become something more than just breeding vessels.
@@godliveopoku-duah9704true 👍
Kosem is beautiful, but my goodness, Safiye has the most lovely eyes.
24:37 the successor of hurrem sultana is here, the most powerful sultana , what hurrem sultan started now it's kosem sultan to finish it.
No one sultanas can t be like Hurrem Sultana. She was amazing, powerful, intelligent. She was really a magnific woman! But also Kosem was a bit like Hurrem in her epoch
No one can beat hurrem sultana she is next level
Kosem and naksidil beated her
@@OmerFaruk-f1iin what? Thanks to hurrem they had the titles and power bc hurrem paved the way for the sultanate of woman, stop being delusional. Hurrem eats them alone, she did everything from nothing.
Kosem to Safiye: Girl, bye!! 👋 👋 👋 👋,Haci is loving it, and now Cencet Kalfa is getting HER payback!!! 👌
No one can beat hurrum😂😅her walk it's just on another level
Her walk is like Hurricane 🤩
More like manly!
Well it’s actually Meryem Uzerli’s walk lol
@@AbuSayed-bu6ey shut up abudabi
@@AbuSayed-bu6eyno powerful feminine walk
15:31. Hurrem sultana was standing there when she was announced as the bas haseki sultan and ruler of harem, while mahidevran stands where safiye sultan is.
Love the parallel 😊
Crown scene
Hurrem: hey everyone, look at my new CROWN 😏 Tall and sparkling
Kosem: Yup I got the crown, pretty isnt it? 😌
Hurrem's most battles came to an end as she got older, but Kosems just started after death of Ahmed. Her real battles were everthing that happened after the death of Ahmed (from Mustafa being sultan till the day Kosem died)
Imagine Hürrem Sultan showing up on the mirror as her reflection that moment 🔥
19:54 the way Ahmed speaks about hurrem sultana :))) with so much respect on his voice and look. Hurrem sultanas legacy remained, nobody remembers that Mustafa nor mahidevil
Prince mustafa is remembered as a hero and most people love him. Hurrem is hated by many people. It seems you are russian so you respect and love her but hurrem is so hated by islamic people
@@zahraanemer7050 everyone loves hurrem sultan, nobody remembers your Mustafa who went againstthe sultan
@@ΔημΣΚ true
@@aabidahhurrem1847 na
@@ΔημΣΚ everybody where? You mean in europe or russia. I am talking about islamic and Arab world just see how much they hate hurrem and respect mustafa. You are too stuborn and there is no mean in arguing
I really like the crown of Hurrem and later Kosem wear it. But too bad that we didn't see Nurgul and Vahide with these crown
they already have a natural majestic air but the crown would have been even more successful than on Hurrem (Meryem) and Kosem (Beren) even if the actresses are quite good.
@Leo Yes I see that for Turhan... It was less impressive XD
I wish that Vahide wear this crown too
@Leo who is Turhan again? I forgot
@Leo So true... Imagine Safiye with the crown too wow ( trio of badass)
They should give that crown to nurgul too.
She was the nayeba badishah...
They should show her power..
@@kohinur8547 So true
Beren Saat is equal with Meryem Uzerli in this role as Haseki Sultan
Nah cant compare
Meryem uzerli IS the best@@yenisketches6047
Fr Ppl can't accept the fact
True. She walked in harem exactly as Hurrem sultana
Beren Saat played a perfect Kosëm Sultana.
At least this sultan is young and kinda handsome
The actor who played Suleiman is gorgeous!
@@mariakelly90210baldie 😂
6:59
A minute of silence for this poor Haci stuck between Kosem and Ahmed
(good pass the sentence humor it must be stressful to work for the Sultan and the Sultanas even if they are very competent)
Each corner of this palace remind Hurrem & suleyman.... And all other characters of magnificent century Suleman❤
This is random but that fluffy kitten is so cute❤
That would be Elizabeth!
@@Phlowermom Elizabeth is getting quite the following in this series.
@@mariakelly90210 And well deserved may I add!! She has thousands of descendants running the city of Istanbul as we speak!!
@@Phlowermomcats are kings in istanbul
The cat's necklace shouldn't have been snatched away. What was that poor baby's fault💞😂
Exactly! Justice for Elizabeth the Cat!
Anything that belongs to Safiye Sultana now belongs to the royal Treasury.
Safiye's perp walk. 😆 Hilarious!!! And console herself however she will, she has to admit that Kosem had her number and she had to get gone!! 😂
HELLO EVERYONE😃😃😃.. NO ONE CAN WALK LIKE HURREM😍😍😍😍😍😍.. HURREM IS BAD TO THE BONE!!!
Old kosem more powerful
And Kosem even more so!
@CHERYLRGAY : Exactly. Hurrem is the Hurricane Sultan. ❤
Hurrem was a p!g 😂😂😂 walked like one too 😂😂
She doesn't need hurrem'S Walk she is Kösem Sultan ❤👑👑
The moment Ahmed decided that Fahriye, and by extension, Safiye, had to go.
This magnificent crown only suits sultana of hearts Hurrrem❤️
Exactly!❤ This is what i actually want to say!
WRONG!
Some people say cosem was most smart or powerfull than hurrem, I think they re wrong , yes cosem was an charge of harem and soliters but has a weck sultan he was not even 10% of suleyman power, was more complicate to control suleyman than the sultan of cosem time
Fr suleiman was more powerful
yeah that's true but what Kosem had to go through was so bad
People say that Kosem herself is powerful... I'm myself a Hurrem lover... But I have to admit that Kosem is more powerful... She not only governed state matters but also the Harem... And the biggest thing is that she was still standing after everything.. She lost her husband and 2 sons but still fought back both politically and in the harem.. But since Suleyman was a powerful Sultan, Hurrem didn't have to interfere in state matters that much...
KOSEM
Hurrem is bad at first
And kosem is good from the very beginning
No one can match the level of Haseki Hürrem sultan......
Both actresses played a beautiful role Meryem Uzerli and Vahide perçin...
I want to know how to walk like Cennet, leaving that carriage and walking away from Safiye Sultana like a boss ❤
12:41 Büyük Validemiz = The Empress Grandmother. Not "Her Grace".
Sultana Haseki Mâh-peyker Kösem ❤
I'm seeing everyone is telling that hurram is more powerfull than kosem..but no..what a foolish thought.. Kosem rules the world for a while.. She was "nabek".. She pretended as if she got throne after ahmed's die..but hurram's world was just about her children and suleiman..
Fool all of them got power after nurbanu stole the ring.😂
she rules bcs the sultan in her era was too weak.. 😂
Janisseri not bow to hurrem,but Kosem era janisseri obey her sight
Kossem is kind pure heart but hurrem is zalim
Nabek means?
Ps.:
back to history ahmed´s harem.
acording to my personaly reasearch was kosem truly second wife ahmed I
(leslie perci- kosem was greeck or bosnian origin and second or third wife- haseki)
borekci said that ahmed had in 15.3.1605 at least 5 daughters
leslie perci said that while kosem was third or second haseki ahmed I. there was a another haseki who became valide sultan between years 1618-1621/22 died at 1620. but it wasn´t mahfiruze because she died soon. in 1618 was built tomb owr his grave. according to tezcan she could died afther was her second born son was born (according to pecevi 3august 1605) these son could died soon afther his born 1612 acording to ambassador lost two of his son. and som historians claim that she had a son in 1612.leslie perci said that orhan was born 1610/09-1612 at the same times when george sandys describe dead mahfiruze 1610 and that vallier and cortarini marked another son from her whose lived and died. achile de harley also demonstrated that in 1614(1605) osman started became orphan his mother died and his brother died as well. gevherhan wife okuz mehmed pasha was daughter kosem according to george sandys ahmed let married her at her age foure (gerge sandys in egypt) this daughter was acording to mustafa naima and necdet sakaoglu daughter kosem
unnamed wife - unamed daughter 1603- mayby died in 1605-1606
daugther 1605-married during the reing her brother
unnamed son (mahmud 8.3.1605) mahmud I sultan 1618- january 1621
valide sultan his mother died 1620/1
kosem haseki
gevherhan sultan 15.11.1603
hatice sultan 15.11.1603-1606(mystake for kosem sultan)
sehzade mehmed do 15.11.1605
ayse sultan fifth daughter ahmed I to the 15.3.1605(twin sehzade mehmed
fatma sultan 24.5.1606
unnamed sehzade 24.5.1606-1609?
handzade sultan 1607
mahfiruze sultan(third wife - bas kadin) 1604-1605
osman II 1621-1622
unnamed son 3 august 1605(source pecevi- celebrating was giving his mother died one months afther his biorth or 1606-no more- mother died soon afther his birth
So, Zulfikar is basically Ahmed's version of Markocoglu Bali Bey? Or Pargali Ibrahim?
When ahmed said, its hurrsm sultan's crowm, i felt goosebumps 😅
The fact that Kosem got it but Hurrem earned it. But I love them both ❤
I do wish there was a scene somewhere where Safiye Sultan took the ring tv Nurbanu stole from Hurrem's dead body - and the crown featured here was shown passing through Sultanas' possession successively - when Hurrem was aged she never wore it again NOR did tv Nurbanu nor tv Safiye. But fact was - at least on the tv show- BOTH the ring & crown were exclusively forged for a historic precedent 😮
السلطانه الوحيده الي ضامنه مستقبل عيالها قبل ماتحمل فيهم❤
Kosem was more political in state matters. Hurrem was also good in ruling a country too but the show does not SHOW that. Wish they had kept that cool detail of hers.
Hurrem sultan was just ruling harem's concubines,her daughter s husband rustem and did some charity work while kosem ruled the whole empire as a sultan
That green and gold gown is my favorite.
we do not not name this sehzade but some source mention him as a ottoman (son ahmed I) propably surname for unknown son son. this son should had became ottoman sultan during 1618-1621. his mother died in 1620.
there small history mystake but many source from ambassadors mention sehzade mahmud as second born son. mayby mystake for sehzade born 15.11,1603
Kosem is an angel, after horrible manipulative Hurrem, even worse than her Nurbanu and Safiye it is time to have sultana I can be a fan of. Kosem is the best, I love her Innocence and pure heart❤
Hurrem was not horrible.And kosem was not an angel
Bulbul agha is so cute
Kosum sultan the most powerful queen 👑 ottoman empire 🇹🇷❤️🌹
Love the title!yaass💗
At some point I give a pity to Safiye, this all happened just because Kosem is naive and young, don't know what it takes to become Valide Sultan. Later Kosem was totally change and become more monstrous than Safiye
I love and feel pity for safiye because she suffer alot from nurbanu
In the end, she won nurbanu
Why the cast who play older anastasia has black hair while anastasia has brown or blonde ?anyone has some thought?
I have been thinking this forever
If she had children, that could explain the hair change. My mom had light blonde hair when she was younger. With every child she had, her hair got darker. She has light brown hair now.
Hurruem is best and lucky sultan❤
On a note totally unrelated to the story, The actress who played Kosem at this stage of her life has the most beautiful face, and her natural brows are magnificent. I wish I could have brows like hers, they are absolutely perfect. Somehow, I must have missed the episode where she turned from blonde hair to black and this actress took her place. The older Kosem resembles this Kosem greatly but her sudden addition to the show after Murad was crowned didn't make sense either. At least Hurrem's changes made sense in the timeline of her life story. But aside from the sickness and hard days of her kidnapping, there was no reason really for her to age so rapidly. Many women at that age look lovely still, and Hurrem died young. I know WHY from a production viewpoint the story changed and she came back looking aged by 20 years due to the contract disputes. but did this also happen with the actresses who played the part of Kosem?
Neither in the 156 episodes of magnificent century of Suleiman nor that of Ahmed could I find a women who was of Hurrem's match . not even kosem or nurbanu or safiye , no one . i love hurrem
true story kosem.:
in years 1603 ahmed saw concubine he felt in love to her and saduced her. she became pregnant. this ahmed´s mother furiies. she let her punished by whipe and expeled from palace. when ahmed became a sultan ahmed I. he wants to now what is with her. he lerned about theyre children. daughters he order to brought them back. he made from her his haseki. and theyre daughters got name gevherhan and ayse. and 8.3.1605 gave birth her the first son mehmed. mayby third daughter fatma
4:35 wow how can she talk like that to the valide sultan, such a powerful scene ahaha
I think you didn't watch hurrem talk to valide
@@Reena.kannah I did
Hurrem talked to them with respect and always bowed to them even when they burned her face , but kosem was irrespective
It's a drama.
@@marismith162 I know
main reason why historians cannot identified all sons and all daugthers ahmed I is because they change gorgian kalender with julians kalendar.
but according to my personality reaserch Ahmed I had since 1603-1606 at least 7 or 10 sons and at least 7 or 10 daughters
it is verry complicate change georgians and julians kalendar that ´s why one sehzade had three or more dates of birth
for example sehzade mehmed son kosem -
mehmed tezcan born 8.3.1605
borekci born 11.3.1605
pecevi 3.8.1605
everythink is corret.
there are an another sehzadeler.
mehmed suyera said that osman II was born 15.11.1603
but historians said that he was born 4.11.1604
ottaviano bon 1609 he had three woman two sons and three daughters.
ps. I found that ottaviano bon is ambassador constatinopol janury 1605 which mean that he must wrote this sooner than 1609.
this situacion also discribed historians
suyera son born 15.11.1603
all historians 4.11.1604(ps while historians said that osman II was born 4.11.1604 as a first born son ahmed I
pietro della valle said that second born son was mahmud not from kosem these two sons osman and mahmud were born infront of first born son of kosem mehmed 8.3.1605
now be carreful.
tezcan said that during birth ahmed s two first born sons ahmed already had her the first born daughter. this situacion also discribed historians.
gevherhan b.1608
ayse b.1608( the most of historians)
there is no a doupt that ottaviano bon marked three daughters ahmed I january 1605.
lealie perci also discribed that in that same time was born an another daughter hatice but she died yong.
so we have three daughters and two sons january 1605
this situacion also discribed privy purse he said that there si mother without sehzade also discribed at least three daughters infront of born sehzade 4,11,1604.
registr palace marked daughters as gevherhan, ayse, fatma,hatice. proopably one is daughter safyie or handan gevherhan and ayse could had been from kosem, and hatice and osman couldhad been from one, or two woman.
a little bit confusion. I show you in nushle how it should look list ahmed´s children
hatice, 1603
sehzade 15.11,1603
gevherhan and ayse - from kosem
son 4.11.1604
unnomed daughter born march 1605- some thing that these daughters is gevherhan but this is ron my personality calculation said that gevherhan and ayse were born infront of january 1605.
borekci also said that ahmed had 14. 3.1605 at least five daughters the most famouse are gevherhan and ayse from kosem.
now you understand why it is so difficult identified all children of ahmed I
current eu source said that kosem started to be in harem since 1603(this situacion also discribed aldersona and sakaoglu they said that mehmed III had concubine name mahpeyker propably mystake with kosem.)
also said that at that time when kosem show there there was a another woman with whom had dAUGHTER HATICE died yong
Should Kosem be concerned with the baby in the arms of that concubine? Heck, I am surprised that she did not ask someone to check if that child is a boy or a girl.
Kosem should have told her “I am Sultana Kosem”! 😂
What the word they are using to call the majesty ungyaaram or kunyaaram???
Who is this Sultan Ahmad?Selim Son or Grand son?and also Safiye?whos her Parents?from Bayazed?
Ahmed is Selim's great grandson and Safiye is Selim's daughtet in law
Can someone explain to me what this show is??.. Im confused because of the other show called the Magnificent Century.. How are they related?
Magnificent Century Kosem is basically the sequel to Magnificent Century.
Magnificent Century is about Suleiman the magnificent and Hürrem Sultan. Magnificent Century:Kosem , is about Sultan Ahmed and Kösem Sultan. Ahmed was Suleimans great great grandson
while we speake about harem of ahmed I during the reign of ahmed I were aperence at least two woman. one who she had saduced to him as a sehzade .
and another who was apearence her self at that time when ahmed felt empty for lost his brother mahmud. this (kosem was expeled with hers daughters- gevherhan and ayse/fatma
the first gave him birth sehzade born 15.11.1603 and daghter hatice.
mahfiruze the mother osman II was the third wife.
she died in august 1605 afther difficult birth her second son who died soon afther his birth. this sehzade was propably sehazde orhan 3 august 1605-1606. mahfiruz third with ahmed I died in august 1605
I love the drama!
No one can be hurrem sultan because hurrem sultan was the real queen of ottoman empire ❤
Everybody would thank to Hurrem Sultana and Mihrimah Sultana
Ps:
found new one
ottaviano bon 1609 ahmed had two sons an three daugters from three woman.
this letter was subcribe by ambassadors january 1605 - before born sehzade mehmed
another ambasador mention fact that ahmed didn´t allowed kosem visited her step eldest sons.
it is possible that infront of january 1605 had ahmed I three woman and three daughter and two sons. yeas it is
historians says that as well.:
sicilii osmany said that osman II was born 15.11.1603
while others historians agree that osman II was born 4.11.1604.
historians says that infront of january 1605 had ahmed I two sons. not from kosem . this sons was born infront of mehmed 8/11.3.1605. with these two sons didn´t had kosem anny relationship (not with mehmed).
so now we have mentions about three sons mayby foure sons
son was born 15.11.1603
Osman II born 4.11.1604
sehzade mehmed 8/11.3.1605
kosem had son 8.3.1605, and ahmed I HAD SONS INFROTN of sehzade mehmed. with these two eldest sons(not mehmed) hadn´t had kosem anny relationship .
daughters.
he had three daughters. ottaviano bon 1609
historians also subcribe this situacion.
ayse and gevherhan were born 1605/1608. infront of 1609. leslie perci also mention that there were another daughter hatice 1608-1610
three daughter infront of january 1605
Ps.: privy purce since janury 1603-may 1605:
hatice sultan
sehzadegan- from 600 to 100(mahmud was executed and halime started get 100 akce)
ayse sultan
fatma sultan
ayse sultan
gevherhan sultan(daughter ahmed I january 1604 is mention in privy purse. it is possible that ayse as well).
mother mehmed III(safyie ultan leave top kapi palace 1604)
valide sultan 3000
how we can see that mention about hatice, ayse, gevherhan are in january 1603-Janury 1604.
guhman borekci also mention that 15.5.1605 had ahmed I at least five daughters. the most famouse are from kosem gevherhan and ayse.
cortarini also mention that ahmed I SADUced yong concubine and many ambasadors says that there was a woman who was exepeled with two daughters(kosem exepeled with her daughters ayse and gevherhan)
privy purse also mention born another daughter in march 1605 not from kosem. some people thought that it was gevherhan but not mention about gevherhan is infront of born Osman II
how should it look harem ahmed I
unnamed son 15.11.1603
there are also mention about three daughter at that time
hatice sultan
gevherhan
ayse
osman II 4.11.1604
sehzade mehmed 8/11.3.1605
there is no for sure that mehmed was born according to tezcan 8.3.1605 or according to borekci 11.3.1603. it is possible that there could had been another sehzade
and that time together with mehmed was born another daughter kosem fatma(many historians agree that at 160ř had kosem at least 3 daughters and one son.
unnamed daughters mother unknown. propably is her mother mother who gave birth hatice and osman or the second eldest son.
Hurrem the most powerful than other sultana everyone ❤
That's not true sultana ranking according to power is
1. Kosem sultan (Valide muazama who ruled whole empire as a king )
2.Turhan sultan ( valide sultan who equally shared power with her son)
3.Safiye sultan ( valide sultan sultan with too much power who can even dethrone a sultan)
5.Halime sultan ( sultan's favorite and twice valide sultan and ruled ottoman empire and it's army directly acting as regent for her son mustafa)
5.Hatice sultan (according to series most powerful imperial princess as well as Grand vazier wife who controls harem and everyone bows to
her)
6.Hureem sultan ( Great Haseki sultan of Suleiman the magnificent and his children's mother)
7.Hasfsa Valide sultan (A traditional and powerful sultana who can guide her son and manage the harem in best way)
8.Dilruba sultan ( a sultana who protects her brother from death whole life and in end succeeded to make his brother a sultan)
9.Mihrimah sultan (Ottoman princess trying to protect her brothers but shown a little childish just under her mother's power not too much powerful)
10.Nurbanu sultan (Just cunning and clever sultana not too much powerful according to series)
According to series these 10 sultana's carry the show
There is no comparison in between Hurrem and Kosem. Yeah Hurrem had to fought for everything even sultan's love but Kosem got her sultan's love even before she desired for it. Hurrem's world is about her sultan and children. While Kosem had to took reign of the empire in young age and fought for power to keep her children alive. Janssiri obeyed her more than her son who later took throne that shows how much power she got in her time. Most importantly she lost Ahmed at young age, leaving her vulnerable and alone to power struggle. Hurrem always had Suleiman by her side till she died.
You cant out do the doer you cant outshine the shiner baby
I miss sumbul
I miss him and his fights with Gul Agha
Actually beren was the best kosem but she was out played by safiye and humasha
Which episode is this
Hurrem is queen in real
Inhate this darama but i cant stop my self to watch this movie
There is no second Hurrem!!
Im sorry is this the magnifiscent century 2??who are they
Yup, you can say this is a sequel about Kösem Sultan and Ahmed 1 (Suleiman's great great grandson)
No one can beat Kosem Sultana . Hurrem was very cruel, she kills Mustafa while Kosem fights for her step children's...love U to the moon and sky Kosem Sultana❤❤
What about Kosem killing her own son? Hurrem tried to save her childrens from mahidevil
When Hurrem became the ruler of harem. The whole palace was bowing to her. She also died with all her children and grandkids and husband crying for the woman she was. With kosem i dont like how her character became so cold to her own blood.
This is ridiculous!!!!
It took Hürrem a DECADE and 4 children (3 Şehzade) to have the right to wear that crown and Kosem is given after being in the harem FOR A FEW MONTS! SHE ISN’T EVEN A SULTANA AT THIS POINT!!!!
This is insulting to all the things that Hürrem Sultana hâd to go through to get to this point and terrible writing.
I know
I do agree with that part of it- they should have paced it out here. Wait til she had Mehemed.
WHAT SHE(KOSEM SULTAN) DID WAS ENOUGH TO WEAR THAT CROWN
But at that time she save the dynasty once...
Times change 🤪
Eh Hurrem Sultan walked so that the other Sultanas can run.
Hurrem Sultana was the one who open the door for Sultanate of Women.
nobody ever will beat sultana hurremmm🥹
ps. gevherhan sultan cannot been born in march 1605 from an another concubine.
pecevi I gave you my three years old daughter. von hammer said that that pecevi is marked this 1607/08
george sandys said that ahmed let married his foure age old daughter to okuz mehmed pasha .
now bee carreful.
take dates 1607-4=1603
how it is wrote ottaviono bon.
ps.: why geroge sandys said that the mother of first born son gave titul sultan.
cortarini twice discribed that the mother gevherhan is haseki- or kosem since 1603
Can anyone tell me about the relations between mera sultan and kossem sultan???
there was a woman who was exepeled with to daughters kosem the mother Gevherhan and ayse
Safiye sultan walking ❤omg
I miss hurrems gangster walk
It seems ahmed loved kosem more than suleman love hurrem
Beren saat coc guzal benim guzalim
I like the BGM of this season
the crown looks a lot better on Hurrem
Why did Kosem never wear Hurrems crown after that one time?
No one can match hurrem
No one can copy hurrem sutan
Can anyone tell me tips to learn Turkish fast food
Ok so Kosem came after Hurrem bit through which one of Hürrem's children or grandchildren
Well Ahmed was Suleiman's great great grandson. (Suleiman-Selim-Murad-Mehmed-Ahmed)
l don't like hurrem but I like kosem.
Eh, kosem shenc mogigebs bolos turxani
Hurrum was the best sultana
The worst woman**