You can never go wrong with the PS4’s as they are a phenomenal tire. However, if price plays a factor in your decision then the Indy 500’s are where you wanna go. They are both amazing tires I would say the PS4’s would probably last longer as they are Michelin’s and made with outstanding rubber compounds. But the Indy 500’s are an overall great tire and for the price it’s the most worth it.
Is same as Bridgestone re003 Google it, it suck alot Used it before, heatsoak alot , loosing time after 3~4th lap in sepang, alot worst in the rain, easily hydroplain after even with 70% tread left Slightly approved on re004 but still the hype made these tyre price goes nuts, but then many got very disappointed by it It did really well in gymkhana or autocross that as they brought the tire temp up but not constantly building for long time until over heated Alot of us changed to k120 , although slightly worse in dry performance, softer sidewall but it performed more consistent in long run, better wet grip and cheaper last longer Too sad it discontinued, turning or head to v701
Just got these indy 500 tires for my s2000 yesterday. coming from re71r i needed something that has decent grip but doesn't wear out as fast. they obviously won't be near as stick as the re71r is currently the king of 200 utqg (cheaters) but I'm very satisfied with the level of grip the indy 500(potenza re003) considering it lasts longer.
Going from Sport Comp 2's to Continental DWS. hope I'm not disappointed. They came with 75% tread on OZ Ultraleggera's I bought off a Subaru club member.
Sport comp 2s need 40 psi anything less they feel very lax and unresponsive at 40 you'll notice a big increase in the general inputs and the response is insane. Tire noise is noticable below 50 but you get used to hearing them. You can't beat them in the heat as for rain with no sipping there really bad in heavy rain due to pulling the tire into the puddles hard but as long as there in the heat range and you navigate the heavy puddles there great. In snow and ice there out of there heat range super hard and just can't get warm so traction is there but very lacking but the tire feel makes up for it's weaknesses so your able to exstract all of the tire use in the given situation. I plan to keep running them on all my 2wd trucks and my supra. Just keep them rotated and aired to 40 psi thell last you along time max you wanna do a rotation is 10k if you have no time or money to do so keep rotating between 2500-3000 with every oil change I rotate mine every 2500 miles. Higher maintenance but your engine and tires will last you a long time. Don't be afraid to push the tires as well they will catch them self's after they break lose for a second thell scramble for traction but not squale taking an s curve rating at 45 at 130 chasing a charger with a bumby brigde in the middle to disrupt the tires was scary how smooth they took it all and gathered themselfs up. Hope everyone finds this usefull.
What would you guys reccomend for a 2008 acura tl being driven in NC, a large part of my driving is done in town but I regularly use back roads and take the highway as well. Not at all concerned with driving in snow/ice.
Depending on your driving style, either the Firestone Firehawk Indy 500 or the BFGoodrich g-Force Sport COMP-2 tires featured in this test could be a very good choice. If you’re a more laid back driver who values quiet and comfort over performance, or if you’re looking for a tire that will deliver more mileage, then there could be better options than an Ultra High Performance Summer tire. Your priorities, in addition to how you drive, are very important factors when considering a tire recommendation. For a little more guidance, we recommend using our Tire Decision Guide or giving one of our Tire Experts a call at 800 428-8355 ext. 4370.
I'm a noob. Which is stickier in the dry: Extreme, Max or Ultra? I'm not talking about comfort/daily drivability. Just straight up grip. There's way too many tire categories overall.
Extreme Performance Summer in most cases provide the best grip in dry conditions. Here is a breakdown of our categories: www.tirerack.com/tires/types/tiretype.jsp
Tire Rack Thanks so much! Btw, I saw a commercial on Michelin Pilot Sport 4S, they look like the next generation of max performance tire. When will you guys test that?
Tire Rack Also, the top rated of the Max Performance Summer tire (Michilin Super Sport, 9.5 dry and 9.0 wet) outperforms the top rated of the Extreme Performance Summer Tire (Bridgestone Potenza RE-11, 9.3 dry, 8.1 wet), which is a category above, right? So overall MSuperSport is the best, despite tire category. Or are your ratings only reletave to the other tires within that segment?
The miles of service one receives from a set of tires varies greatly and is affected by many factors. Some of the major influences on mileage are the vehicle, driving style, road composition and tire maintenance/rotation practices, among others. Unfortunately, the expected tread life of a tire is beyond the scope of our testing. Anecdotally, consumers are typically happy with the mileage they receive from the BFGoodrich g-Force Sport COMP-2. The Firestone Firehawk Indy 500 has not been on the market long enough to have a large sample of consumer feedback concerning the mileage they receive from their tires, so a comparison between the two is unfortunately an unknown at this point. Based on the wear we observed during our testing, though, we expect the Firestone to deliver satisfactory mileage when properly maintained.
Indy 500 is a max summer tire. 220 tread wear just like the RE 003 (same tire) I got 5k miles and wet performance was gone after 2k. Great tires if you don't mind getting a new set every year.
so if this 500 perform as good as it looks , I wonder how it would compare to a Max performance bridgestone Potenzas S0-4 pole position, they are made by the same manufacturer because Firestone is bridgestone. but the Firestone has a higher treadwear and 3-4 more technology into it .
Max Performance Summer tires like the Bridgestone Potenza S-04 Pole Position represent the highest level of tire technology from their respective manufacturers. They blend unsurpassed levels of dry and wet street handling and traction with refined on-road characteristics. Though the Firestone Firehawk Indy 500 does benefit from the advances in tire technology in the years since the Potenza S-04 Pole Position was released, today’s Ultra High Performance Summer tires can’t quite match all the capabilities of Max Performance Summer tires from a few years ago. Unfortunately we have never tested the tires head to head, and anecdotally the Firehawk Indy 500 may be close to the Potenza S-04 Pole Position in some categories, but it wouldn’t present quite as compelling of an all-around package as the Bridgestone.
+Tire Rack . but in the test results I see that the Firestone lapped the track 30.02 second , meanwhile the S0-4 bridgestone lapped at 30.49 , not only that the Firestone created the higher G's compare to the bridgestone , if you look you guys own data the Firestone is consistent with max performance tires of a few years ago .. not only that your also talking of higher treadwear ratings . it's just shows how tire technology is just improving . Amazing !
do a max performance tire next I want to see how the Kuhmo ps91 does. And if you could use a higher hp car that would be great the muscle car market uses tire rack reviews a lot but never seem to get any love.
The other guy, Woody, is still our product specialist and working on the team. He has passed the torch on to the new guy in the video who is our tire information specialist. He has taken on the roll of working on the test videos.
Between the driver and front tyres there is just the steering column, steering rack and wheel hubs (tire-rods to the tyre essentially) which are pretty much rigidly connected in a rack and pinion car. There are only some small rubber bushings in the system, which would be fairly stiff in a sporty car like a BMW. There would be a much more direct transfer of force from the front tyres to steering wheel via a rack and pinion setup, compared to an old-fashioned recirculating ball steering box. He didn't talk much about how the rear of the car felt, indeed.
We're sorry to hear these tires didn't live up to your expectations! Next time you're in need of a new set, please reach out. We'd be happy to help you find another option that may better suit your needs.
Got the Kumho tire on my RSX from 2017 until now (definitely warn down by now but I loved the tire) If I had the chance to test out other tires to compare I would but not sure I want to switch tires brands for next summer. I hear nothing but good things about the Indy 500s but I was worried about those odd heavy rainy days tbh
This gets an immediate thumbs up for featuring a Saab 9-2x Aero in the background as soon as it starts
Firestone Indy 500, is a hidden gem in tires
Hanna Elfar I’m debating between the Indy 500 or the MICHELIN PS4. What do you think?
You can never go wrong with the PS4’s as they are a phenomenal tire. However, if price plays a factor in your decision then the Indy 500’s are where you wanna go. They are both amazing tires I would say the PS4’s would probably last longer as they are Michelin’s and made with outstanding rubber compounds. But the Indy 500’s are an overall great tire and for the price it’s the most worth it.
Zoe Boy thank you.
They suck in the wet though
Is same as Bridgestone re003
Google it, it suck alot
Used it before, heatsoak alot , loosing time after 3~4th lap in sepang, alot worst in the rain, easily hydroplain after even with 70% tread left
Slightly approved on re004 but still the hype made these tyre price goes nuts, but then many got very disappointed by it
It did really well in gymkhana or autocross that as they brought the tire temp up but not constantly building for long time until over heated
Alot of us changed to k120 , although slightly worse in dry performance, softer sidewall but it performed more consistent in long run, better wet grip and cheaper last longer
Too sad it discontinued, turning or head to v701
Wow thanks, i was picking between the Indy 500 ad the Ecsta PS31, ended up going with the 500 from you guys after watching the video!
Just got these indy 500 tires for my s2000 yesterday. coming from re71r i needed something that has decent grip but doesn't wear out as fast. they obviously won't be near as stick as the re71r is currently the king of 200 utqg (cheaters) but I'm very satisfied with the level of grip the indy 500(potenza re003) considering it lasts longer.
Have had the indy 500 on my focus st for 3k miles. Been in wet and dry. By far my favorite tire ive had. Much better than the eagle f1s they replaced
I own the Khumo's and ive owned the Dunlops, HATED the Dunlops but so far I am digging the Khumo's
Going from Sport Comp 2's to Continental DWS. hope I'm not disappointed. They came with 75% tread on OZ Ultraleggera's I bought off a Subaru club member.
Sport comp 2s need 40 psi anything less they feel very lax and unresponsive at 40 you'll notice a big increase in the general inputs and the response is insane. Tire noise is noticable below 50 but you get used to hearing them. You can't beat them in the heat as for rain with no sipping there really bad in heavy rain due to pulling the tire into the puddles hard but as long as there in the heat range and you navigate the heavy puddles there great. In snow and ice there out of there heat range super hard and just can't get warm so traction is there but very lacking but the tire feel makes up for it's weaknesses so your able to exstract all of the tire use in the given situation. I plan to keep running them on all my 2wd trucks and my supra. Just keep them rotated and aired to 40 psi thell last you along time max you wanna do a rotation is 10k if you have no time or money to do so keep rotating between 2500-3000 with every oil change I rotate mine every 2500 miles. Higher maintenance but your engine and tires will last you a long time. Don't be afraid to push the tires as well they will catch them self's after they break lose for a second thell scramble for traction but not squale taking an s curve rating at 45 at 130 chasing a charger with a bumby brigde in the middle to disrupt the tires was scary how smooth they took it all and gathered themselfs up. Hope everyone finds this usefull.
would have liked to see the Ventus rs4's in this tests
I like how you test all the tires on BMW. We know the reason!
I have the 500s on my Clk55 amg love them
What would you guys reccomend for a 2008 acura tl being driven in NC, a large part of my driving is done in town but I regularly use back roads and take the highway as well. Not at all concerned with driving in snow/ice.
Depending on your driving style, either the Firestone Firehawk Indy 500 or the BFGoodrich g-Force Sport COMP-2 tires featured in this test could be a very good choice. If you’re a more laid back driver who values quiet and comfort over performance, or if you’re looking for a tire that will deliver more mileage, then there could be better options than an Ultra High Performance Summer tire. Your priorities, in addition to how you drive, are very important factors when considering a tire recommendation. For a little more guidance, we recommend using our Tire Decision Guide or giving one of our Tire Experts a call at 800 428-8355 ext. 4370.
for the cost i absolutely love the Indy 500 for my summer tires!
We're so happy to hear these tires have hit the mark for you!
Kumhos LOVE high tyre pressures. Anything under 32 psi and u will not get the performance you are looking for.
do you use the Kumho Ecsta PS31?
If these are Ultra High Performance Summer then what category that Z2, RE-11, AD08R are in?
Mark is correct, these tires are in the Extreme Performance Summer category.
I'm a noob. Which is stickier in the dry: Extreme, Max or Ultra? I'm not talking about comfort/daily drivability. Just straight up grip.
There's way too many tire categories overall.
Extreme Performance Summer in most cases provide the best grip in dry conditions. Here is a breakdown of our categories: www.tirerack.com/tires/types/tiretype.jsp
Tire Rack Thanks so much! Btw, I saw a commercial on Michelin Pilot Sport 4S, they look like the next generation of max performance tire. When will you guys test that?
Tire Rack Also, the top rated of the Max Performance Summer tire (Michilin Super Sport, 9.5 dry and 9.0 wet) outperforms the top rated of the Extreme Performance Summer Tire (Bridgestone Potenza RE-11, 9.3 dry, 8.1 wet), which is a category above, right? So overall MSuperSport is the best, despite tire category. Or are your ratings only reletave to the other tires within that segment?
Unfortunately, we do not have our testing schedule set at this time.
They are relative Strider.
In terms of tread wear which tire lasts longer the Firehawk Indy 500 or the G force comp 2
The miles of service one receives from a set of tires varies greatly and is affected by many factors. Some of the major influences on mileage are the vehicle, driving style, road composition and tire maintenance/rotation practices, among others. Unfortunately, the expected tread life of a tire is beyond the scope of our testing. Anecdotally, consumers are typically happy with the mileage they receive from the BFGoodrich g-Force Sport COMP-2. The Firestone Firehawk Indy 500 has not been on the market long enough to have a large sample of consumer feedback concerning the mileage they receive from their tires, so a comparison between the two is unfortunately an unknown at this point. Based on the wear we observed during our testing, though, we expect the Firestone to deliver satisfactory mileage when properly maintained.
ah ok thank you
Indy 500 is a max summer tire. 220 tread wear just like the RE 003 (same tire) I got 5k miles and wet performance was gone after 2k. Great tires if you don't mind getting a new set every year.
B Mac wrong. 340 treadwear.
so if this 500 perform as good as it looks , I wonder how it would compare to a Max performance bridgestone Potenzas S0-4 pole position, they are made by the same manufacturer because Firestone is bridgestone. but the Firestone has a higher treadwear and 3-4 more technology into it .
Max Performance Summer tires like the Bridgestone Potenza S-04 Pole Position represent the highest level of tire technology from their respective manufacturers. They blend unsurpassed levels of dry and wet street handling and traction with refined on-road characteristics. Though the Firestone Firehawk Indy 500 does benefit from the advances in tire technology in the years since the Potenza S-04 Pole Position was released, today’s Ultra High Performance Summer tires can’t quite match all the capabilities of Max Performance Summer tires from a few years ago. Unfortunately we have never tested the tires head to head, and anecdotally the Firehawk Indy 500 may be close to the Potenza S-04 Pole Position in some categories, but it wouldn’t present quite as compelling of an all-around package as the Bridgestone.
+Tire Rack . but in the test results I see that the Firestone lapped the track 30.02 second , meanwhile the S0-4 bridgestone lapped at 30.49 , not only that the Firestone created the higher G's compare to the bridgestone , if you look you guys own data the Firestone is consistent with max performance tires of a few years ago .. not only that your also talking of higher treadwear ratings . it's just shows how tire technology is just improving . Amazing !
do a max performance tire next I want to see how the Kuhmo ps91 does. And if you could use a higher hp car that would be great the muscle car market uses tire rack reviews a lot but never seem to get any love.
Black Dragn they are amazing I have them on 295 width crazy Grip on them. Just wears quick that only bad thing about them.
The Indy 500 look very promising but why it got such a low price?
made in Thailand
Darksyne some are made in Japan. My 235/45/18 for example.
I like to think that Firestone is trying to build a long-lost reputation, and then build quality after time. I'm not sure that's true.
Great review video.. thankyo
What's the song in the video. O.Oq
This new guy is cool and all, but I miss that Woody guy. His geekyness combined with the way he explained tires was just awesome.
Woody works alongside "the new guy" and is still our product information specialist. The new guy is learning from the best! Thanks for your message.
What happened to the other guy?!
The other guy, Woody, is still our product specialist and working on the team. He has passed the torch on to the new guy in the video who is our tire information specialist. He has taken on the roll of working on the test videos.
Ah, now I see. Keep 'em coming they're great!
not even as like just a comparison in a video because I too would like at least a comparison video... there aren't many of those around
nitto I hear have terrible tread wear but I would still like to see how they hold up against the other big players
Firestone Indy 500 Is an Easter egg.
You're talking like there's no car between the driver and the tires...
Between the driver and front tyres there is just the steering column, steering rack and wheel hubs (tire-rods to the tyre essentially) which are pretty much rigidly connected in a rack and pinion car. There are only some small rubber bushings in the system, which would be fairly stiff in a sporty car like a BMW. There would be a much more direct transfer of force from the front tyres to steering wheel via a rack and pinion setup, compared to an old-fashioned recirculating ball steering box. He didn't talk much about how the rear of the car felt, indeed.
Kuhmo sucks
We're sorry to hear these tires didn't live up to your expectations! Next time you're in need of a new set, please reach out. We'd be happy to help you find another option that may better suit your needs.
Got the Kumho tire on my RSX from 2017 until now (definitely warn down by now but I loved the tire) If I had the chance to test out other tires to compare I would but not sure I want to switch tires brands for next summer.
I hear nothing but good things about the Indy 500s but I was worried about those odd heavy rainy days tbh