Ok, I didn't even know I wanted permanent timewalking until I heard the system in FF14 explained. That sounds awesome for getting footage of hard ass previous boss fights. Blizzard does have a system in hearthstone were they let you play old, un-nerfed cards and decks. Or maybe it was just for 1 event, but whatever the case that seems like something they could do in wow
@@jrinron1926 true, it doesn't recreate the conditions of 2.0 to the letter. Hovewer, it still makes the fights fun to play through and leaves a lot of room to actually die on them.
@@jrinron1926 Yes it isn't the exact same back then and also the food you use isn't scaled down as far as I understand so you still can get a huge boost to stats with that. But even tho - it is still a very viable system to play old content which is still awesome.
@@jrinron1926 the content is still difficult. Put a bunch of sprouts in turn 5 with no knowledge and they will still wipe a shitload and have a good time figuring out the fights.
ive been saying for a looong time that wow needs to rework the old expansions/core gameplay to be relevant in any expansion. Spells items trinkets anything really. They are only used for mog runs now typically, having potentially different specs for each expansion. I think they need to go crazy then sloooowly turn chaos into a funneled experience for each community. You throw a shit ton of new spells the pvp and pve community would not complain at all. New spells are only a problem because level boosts rob players of learning slowly, no one would complain if you had to learn them in a new system that STAYS in the game.
To be honest I’m an old gamer. 32 never played MMOs. Asmon got me into Ff14 and I wish I could thank him. He’s always been true to himself since he’s started. It’s refreshing to see a genuine person gaming.
Makes me think of Destiny 2. You would think they left Activision because they disagreed with their monatary sleeziness... But no, they are continuing to do that, they just didn't want to share in the profits. The best MMO imo right now is Guild Wars 2 and NO ONE is talking about it and that is so sad. I hope the End of Dragons expac is gonna bring some hype back to it!
@@hellgast0 I love GW2 but I don't really see how it's that great to play right now. It's certainly nice for people who've missed out on older content and can catch up on it now, but I don't really see much of a reason to play it actively before the new expac drops.
I remember the first expansion to wow. I lost 25%ish crit rate after I was done leveling down and from then on I don't remember ever not being able to find 10 majorly dumb things. It's just that now there's nothing good either.
@@Til_What I mean, that's the great thing about gw2.. you can take a break and come back when new content drops for free! Also it's a great game for new players to jump in right now imo! And even returning players should have some fun! With the legendary armory, you can not say there isn't anything to do right now...
@@hellgast0 Oh no, I agree with that completely. GW2 is my happy place when it comes to MMOs. And it's for sure a game new players should look into way more. Sure, new legendary armour is nice to have, but it's not like there was some major content drop to appeal to veteran players who are just leaning back and waiting for the expansion (unless you really crave some GW2 rn). I'll personally wait till the expansion is closer or released to farm it alongside other stuff, but that's just me.
@m1lkshake This video quite literally has no ads and unlike 99% of other Twitch highlights channels we NEVER have mid-rolls on our videos... - Daily Dose of Asmongold
Even within the same expansion, content is outdated after the next major patch most of the time...All it takes is for them to raise the item level cap with newer gear as rewards for participating in the added content that the patch adds into the game whatever it happens to be, new dungeons/raids, some new world bosses or a PVP event, etc. Once you can obtain higher end gear than you could get in the raids/mythic+ from the previous patch, everything you've accomplished before becomes obsolete and meaningless. Likewise with these secondary systems such as our artifact weapons in Legion, or the Heart of Azeroth and our Azerite gear in BFA, Covenants and conduits in SL, All of these things we spent our time grinding and farming to level up and progress our characters is also rendered useless as soon as the next expansion drops. We shouldn't NEED all this extra stuff to make our characters feel powerful, and I can't for the life of me understand why Blizzard continually adds in all these secondary systems, only to pitch it in the bin and take it all away from us once the expansion is over. It's not a good feeling because without them, you feel gimped. Case in point, the corruption abilities on gear at the end of BFA. Once those were removed from the game our dps output was MUCH lower. FFXIV doesn't do that at all...EVERY dungeon/raid is continually being run in some form or another thanks to the Duty Roulette. People leveling up characters are required to do them to continue the story and advance to the next chapter/expansion, but you also see max level players doing them to obtain rewards from their challenge log every week. You also get currency which allows you to purchase gear that drops in those raids to be used as transmog, as well as the mounts you can obtain from them. Expansions in that game don't render everything else obsolete, which is amazing IMO
I know right?! Look at FFXIV, everything is still fucking relevant! WoW basically just drops everything for no reason every damn time a fucking expansions end.
THis right here is why I haven't looked back from WoW ever since I jumped on FF14 around 5 years ago. Not only content there is still present even as you work your way on the new stuff, they always find ways of returning to previous parts of the game and either give you something new and big (The Firmament) or give you incentivies to run old content (Moogle tomestones, relic weapons, Ultimate and Unreal raids). I don't think old content is removed from that game, rather phased out but present and at different times on the expansion, actually relevant again. The fact retail WoW REMOVED Vanilla with Cataclysm alone was a massive red flag and it only got worse from there.
They became too corporate, none of the original devs are left or the founders of the company and all they care about is money.. They're EA games 2.0 now.
Blizz needed this to happen. I thank these content creators for switching a much needed narrative and exposing the issues loudly. Also, I'm not saying this will fix anything. I personally think WoW's grave will only grow bigger and bigger to it's eventual death. But, Blizz needed to feel this pressure -- so badly.
Blizzard's goal is to give the least amount of content and polishing they can possibly get away with that people will still play and spend their money on. At this point I wouldn't be surprised if they had a formula on a big whiteboard that employees are constantly reminded of.
Player engagement metrics, how can we milk every second more of the player to get a good metric for shareholders? I bet they have salary bonus related to that shit.
@@sasukefaan nty, i'll take the rich company who listens to players and makes a good game over the one who treats players like a nuisance and designs the game around making them play for longer
A month ago these three were depressed and angry playing wow. Now they all look so happy and full of life playing ffxiv. Seeing them so happy makes me feel so good inside, hell it doesn’t even have to be ffxiv, as a long-time ffxiv player and viewer of them as long as they're happy, I’m happy.
People get tired of trying to give feedback to better the game, only for that feedback to be almost completely ignored, at some point you just don't care anymore, it isn't worth it.
It does get old assuming every one left for FF it doesn’t have open world PvP which is a massive chunk of the mmo pie. I’m holding out for something new.
@@manuelsilva6244 I swear the more I read your comments the more you are proving my point I originally stated about you. WoW is boring as hell even before you hit end game. I am by no means a hardcore FFXIV fan but even I can tell there is so much to do in that game that its just fun period. The only thing I see missing from FF that I would like to see is a yes a better pvp system ( but I can get my fix with so many other games) and more voice acting
@@manuelsilva6244 FF XIV has plenty to do. Whether that's crafting/gathering, gold saucer mini games, mount/pet collections, extreme trials, alliance raids, savage raids, and even ultimates, and can even sync all the content to have proper challenge. There are also treasure maps, relic weapon glamours, ocean fishing and fishing itself which has its own goal if you want to gather all the different types of fish, the bozja/zadnor extremely difficult duels, obviously the occassional patch main story that is actually top notch, level all classes on the same character for maximum flexibility, etc. Hell, you can even do blue mage raids and gather spells/etc. The catch here is that none of the above is tied to character POWER progression aside from Savage. The rest is just for personal fun, achievements/goals, etc. Meanwhile, Shadowlands requires you to do m+, raiding, world quests, kill rares, torghast, pvp, grinding the maw, and all of that for POWER progression in order to raid optimally. I am sorry but paying a sub to have a 'virtual' job, which you work towards in order to even earn the RIGHT to have fun is borderline retarded. In XIV there are obviously massive grinds, but you do them only because you want something that looks cool, not because you struggle at progression and MUST grind it, otherwise you disrespect ppl's time. As for people not playing much XIV atm, big deal. The relic grind is still keeping ppl engaged, and there are ultimates/blue mage raids ppl are tackling in order to pass their time. I've cleared 2 out of 3 ultimates over the last 3 months or so, and working on my last one. After that I will take a break till Endwalker, so that I can enjoy the game. Meanwhile ppl who waited for shadowlands played with a shitty corruption system, which only got fixed 4-5 months in the last patch of the expansion, and then the corruptions were even timegated, to force you to stay subbed till shadowlands, if you wanted to get as strong as you possibly could lol.
They earn money on every expansion ，the only way the game go dead until they stop.develop the new content ,this is the true meaning of “only wow can kill wow itself “
Ftfy: *but not Activision This is the business model and its on purpose YOU are not the audience, WHALES or turning people into whales and only having whales left playing is the point, your a distraction and resource drain with just a sub expecting a quality game product.
It was the same for me 2 years ago. I don't know what helped me realize that, I just knew I had fun. Maybe it isn't any deeper than that. Game's fun, because games are meant to be fun. Blizzard has lost sight of that. As have most AAA studios these days.
I had actually quit during Cataclysm but came back because Legion sounded like fun. Few things aside ((Making all of the Watchers in Duskwood villains ticked me off to no end)) it was pretty fun. Then came BFA...
@@coreyhobbs4834 I've played WoW since early vanilla all the way to BfA's Nazjatar "content" patch, after which I decided that enough is enough. Recently started playing FFXIV, and it's been a blast. I honestly think that leaving WoW for FF and not looking back is the best activity you can do if you want to keep playing MMO.
It's crazy how we are all going to look back at this moment in time and remember the official fall of WoW. A cascading avalanche has happened and we are living history in the making
TL:DR WoW: Is a theme park that closes down and rebuilds a brand new themepark every expansion next to the old one. FFXIV: Is a theme park that adds a new section to the park every expansion but the rest of the park is still open and fun.
@@manuelsilva6244 Yes you absolutely do. Theres always PFs open for peoplw who just wanna run old content for gear, mounts or even just to experience it.
@@manuelsilva6244 What are you talking about?! I see people in Party Finder doing old content all the time. People grinding out poetics for old relic weapons. The Shadowbringers relic weapon has you revisit Heavensward and Stormblood content. Plus mount farming, achievements ect.
@@manuelsilva6244 In WoW the old expansions are neglected, forcing new players to buy a level boost to follow the latest release ! Just look at the crafting on FFXIV, low level resources are also used for HL recipes for new expansions. In WoW the old resources are good to put in the trash or to force the old players to pay millions of gols because they are resold at a high price !
Trying to follow the story of WoW as a new player was so hard. It felt like the Horde Warchief would change every scene and I had to look up a wiki to figure out what was going on. FF14 just lets you play from start to finish with each new expansion being added to the end, so every new player gets treated to this big epic storyline.
Imagine. Clearing Wraths raids as they were at the time, or having the option to bend the raid over and deliver the deep dick with your now maxed out character. That. That is why I love XIV. I just redid Coils of Bahamut a few days ago, as close to it was on release as possible, and I didn’t even PLAY when that was the end game content.
@@InRealTime769 watch Asmon's other channel "Zackrawr" to see his personality off stream and how he would act on State of the Realm. He's only loud mouth and hyper on stream to stir up the chat for views. He's an entertainer but when he does VLOGs to talk about stuff he's really calm and eloquent.
Want lore justification for harder fights? In FF14, theres a random Bard who is your biggest fan. Everytime you beat a boss, he asks you to describe how you did it. So the harder mode is basically a guy hyping you up in a bar, dramatizing you winning easy mode EDIT: I was reminded that the Bard is Yoshi-P's (the game director) self insert character.
He's not a random guy. The Wandering Minstrel is Yoshi P's self insert character. The harder modes are the game director dramatizing fights to make you look like more of a badass than you already are.
I just started last night and hit level 9 and had such a great time even within that time frame! I enjoy watching the cutscenes and reading what quest givers have to say, about to hop back on now!
WoW needs to fail. Blizzard doesn't know anymore how to make a game the players want. FFXIV started off as a game players didn't want. It failed hard and SE brought in the right guy in YoshiP and they rebuilt the game by listening to the community and have continued to add to the game after they hit the right mark and haven't changed the game because they have a base the players wanted and started playing again to experience. Blizzard started with a game people wanted and then continued to try and change that game to expand to a wider audience so much that they threw the original player base under the bus time and time again till they have a game nobody wants. Once that happens. Hopefully they'll take that like SE did and rebuild WoW into a game people want, Warcraft 2. Create a new game, have some balls, and make it based on what your playerbase wants, not what you think will hit the widest audience possible with a mediocre product. But honestly I don't think the devs at Blizz even know how to make unique content that's enjoyable. They are too corporate now and too disconnected with the public.
I think the problem today is that almost none of the original developers are around, those that played games themselves and developing wow was their hobby. What’s left today is ppl that just see their work as a 9-5 job and all they hear are the upper management hammer them with feedback on quarterly earnings etc.
Few months after release of WoW Classic i'm stopped play WoW myself and barely watch Asmon streams, and now i'm watching every single stream or go to youtube if i missed it. This weeks since July 3rd was so much fun, today i'm installing FFXIV myself
@@manuelsilva6244 I completely disagree with you I enjoyed classic and I love the hell out of FFXIV its just so much to do its crazy. You honestly sound like one of the diehard WoW fans that shit on anything that remotely sounds better than WoW. We all know this game is circling the drain Blizz only cares about profits at this point they don't give a damn about its player base outside of the hardcore raiders, Mythic+, and PVP players that they can make money off of with esports
_" While they talked about the future of WoW and how to possibly safe it, the crazy new-age ideologists at Activision talked about toxic masculinity. "_ LoL
I remember when I got the Headless Horseman’s “plate” helmet on my “leather” wearing demon hunter, and how this prevented me from having a xmog of one of the rarest pieces of armor to get. I became rage that day and somehow the game managed to make me hate myself and feel like trash.
Im sorry to disappoint u but the plate helmet is not even close to be one of the rarest items to get, its like a 100% chance if u do the event for some days with a plate character
@@Dathrix I did for days on a plate character every year, for years and never got it. I guess some people just need to sound like they know something but actually don’t lol
@@manuelsilva6244 that said, Kotick is hugely overpayed compared to other CEO's running in the same industry. Seriously, he recently got a $155 million pay bonus. The average AAA video game takes about $70 million to make and more than twice that is going to him as a bonus.
Activision is not Blizzard and Activision Blizzard is not Blizzard. Kotick is Activision and since we can agree that when Activision came into the boat it all went down it wasn't an immediate thing to start the downward spiral. But please just stop talking of Activion Blizzard as if it was all Blizzard. Kotick has nothing to do with Blizzard, he is an Activision shithead. And in the end: all you do is saying what you don't like. Start making it better. Start a company, make videogames and in a few years you can start talking about what you have achieved in the business. Do I like what WoW is now? No, I don't. But for me Warlords was one of the best expansions. I loved the garrison, I really liked every single thing about it. And I know I a almost alone with this opinion.
@@NeckLicKhia Bobby kotick is the ceo of Activision blizzard. You can try and believe that blizzard is separated from him and Activision all you want but that's just undeniably false. And no I won't start a game company I have no interest. I'm a gamer not a developer and that doesn't mean I don't have the right to call out bullshit or that we don't have the power to change the direction of games. I never mentioned wod . Are you on crack?
I've legit been playing PoE since closed beta and only play FFXIV as an MMO. It's crazy to see content creators that I watch just all resonate with how I've felt about gaming. Good times.
27:41 has been my biggest gripe with WoW. They introduce something new and then take it away or make it irrelevant in the next expansion...WHY?! Sure garrisons were kinda whack but there was a lot of great potential. There's so much they could've done with that to make them cool.
I think it's because it's a measure of half-listening. They're probably examining data bases to find out how many people actually delve into that kind of content, seeing it's not very high, and cutting the mechanic for the next expansion. So they know people aren't doing these mechanics, they're just not listening to figure out WHY people aren't engaged with their insane underdeveloped gimmicks. Then they try again next expansion with a new absurd gimmick, only to see the same result. They're trying to strike gold but keep digging up pyrite.
I finally subbed to Asmon after watching pretty much all his FFXIV content, and getting a new uploads in my feed too many times to count. Well deserved, and a week late.
Square Enix must be crying tears of fucking joy how much money did they put into and lost from Crystal Dynamics Avengers live service dumpster fire. And now FFXIV is fucking killing it. Bruh someone should give Yoshi P a god damn medal.
That moment when Asmon asks "so Belular, what games are you looking forward to the most?" And Belular responds: " you know what.. Shadowbringers and Endwalker" and the physical reaction from Asmon and Rich was like "fuck yeah dude!" 34:15
Welcome to the Eorzean Alliance! Take your time, don't rush the content, get invested in the story and the characters. ENJOY Yourself above all :) And maaaaybe keep a box of tissues handy for some of the cutscenes... You will cry...
It's like anything that has been around for a long period of time, eventually they lose sight of what made them popular to begin with & money becomes the driving force versus customer satisfaction & a quality product. Human greed reins supreme.
They can pull that back though, GTA online is a good example of a game that went too far from what the fans wanted because they were making money and now they are moving back towards what fans really want
Even if they were it won't change anything. Has long has the philosophy is to make the most money out of has little has they can. The only way WoW will ever be good again is if the entire company's focus is changed to gameplay first, and it will never happen will Acti/Blizz
@@sparknado3495 If recent "insider leaks" are to be believed, yes they do care, and yes they are mad. Or at least, various individuals in the company are. If that is to be believed there is also a faction in Blizz that say, "they have a point".
Bellular, yeah. But Rich is just as insane in these debates, when he gets serious. LOL he's almost like another person than I see on his FF14 streams. I be like, wtf?
You guys didn’t mentioned the one big advantage that ffxiv has over wow. The big advantage is your able to play ffxiv on console with cross save & play.
@@Zazzaro703 you can actually use a keyboard and mouse with your PlayStation for FFXIV. The game supports both regardless of the platform you are on. It's actually how Square Enix does stuff at Fan Fest... they bring a bunch of PS4's and plug in a controller and keyboard/mouse so people have a choice which to use.
Out of all the mounts I use is the Ragelia from the crossover, then the mount from O8S and the seiryuu mount. I still use my chocobo as I made a lot of bardings for it.
@@k.vn.k New world will also have one, which is a nice change, first thing i check for any new release, instantly forget it exists if there isn't one.... *cough / lost ark
Glad to see someone mentioning this. It sucks hearing so much about FF but here in Aus I can’t even try it, without messing with the game files, using a VPN, disabling anti virus and what not I can’t even install the bloody thing. Quite annoying. Oh well will just have to wait for November I guess.
As someone who's only occassionally playing WoW (like 1-3 months a year) I never understood why Blizzard made the old content so irrelevant with each new add-on. I'm always behind, playing old content but I never feel like it's meaningful beyonf the stories I experience. I have not had a max character since TBC.
@@Dathrix shitting on WoW because they want to see improvements on the game they love is very very different from shitting on WoW while they ALL play WoWs greatest competitor..
There are many things in FF where I've thought "this is something they should have done in wow long ago", I started noticing it with more and more things until now where I'm thinking WoW is just totally outdated. They're just outgunned. It's amazing to me that 50 floors of palace of the dead feels like LESS of a slog than 5 floors of Torghast. Wow became amateurish and lazy. It's that simple.
Cod-crossover take: Every in-game earnable skin and variant skin for completing challenges for the character are all worse than every skin in the store. Every weapon skin you can unlock in game is worse than any skin in the store.
That in itself goes to show what is truly important to Blizzard, money talks. Screw the player, screw the effort you needed to make to get the cool stuff. Everything is short-term gain now, except the wheels are starting to fall off and they have shot themselves in the foot. TBH, I don't necessarily mind the instant gratification of the microtransactions, but the top tier stuff should be difficult to attain.
The point about FFs roulette is spot on. WoW has over 100 dungeons in the game and in Shadowlands less than 10 are actually relevant. Imagine if WoW actually utilized all of those dungeons at level cap like FF does (timewalking is a joke at this point). I got real sick of doing the same 8 mythic dungeons over and over. Adding some actual variety would do wonders for the game.
They need to be an incentive for people to revisit old dungeons. For FF it's easier due to multiple jobs leveling for one character. You can choose to be tank, dps or healer for the same dungeons and it still feel like a different experience. WOW doesn't have that system in place but creating multiple alts - which is not the same thing because you won't have the same emotional attachment as to your main.
While I don't think Classic-Cata dungeons would work as well, but I think throwing in some MoP->Legion Dungeons on a weekly rotation for M+ can do wonders. Like you have the current expansion keys, and possibly another 5-6 from previous expansions that rotate in the M+ pool. They can probably normalize some of the weirder gear for balance, and keep vault rewards to current expansion loot just to make sure the vault doesn't get too bloated
@@TehFabled that's exactly what they shouldnt do with gear, make gear a little more weird, its so fucking boring u just look for haste/mastery as an example and that's it why cant there be like some items with more stam or intellect (which should be relevant for mana again) or just tons of stam and 3 sockets, they got literally multiple professions which have no reason anymore because their features got nearly removed, make ppl look for some better pieces in the whole world of wow let them get a socket an enchant and a glyph on it if u dont want ppl to be forced to do it just turn these enchants etc off in the new raid and pvp
@@palladiamorsdeus Objectively, WoW isn’t dying. It still has 1million more subs than XiV. It will always be alive, just will lose the number 1 spot. You really need to use your brain and research before you talk.
Man after hearing Asmongold i cant wait for him to get to heavensward and see the ending of ARR. Its sad he cant fight the prenerfed final story boss of ARR due to how many casual players couldnt clear it before the nerf......
@@Forien Aurum Vale was nerfed as well, some of the casual dungeons and bosses were actually quite difficult, wipes were expected, and when you won it felt really good. Unfortunately, hordes of players requested nerfs of those dungeons, and developers did what the majority wanted, further widening the gap between people into more difficult and casual content.
They were nerfed so people could progress through story without bigger issues. Its not nice if you cant progress to next chapter cause you stuck on some raid bosses. Its nice to have raids mixed with main story but it should only be "story" and not "challenge" Not everyone are interested in wiping 20 times and beeing stuck on one chapter for half day or more. Thats why there are harder difficulty levels for people who are actually interested to clear this with more planned manner.
Steps of Faith wasn't nerfed because it was hard. (The only mechanic you needed was 'hit dragon with dragonkiller.) It was nerfed because people who had their clears would drop when it popped, which was the real difficulty. Once the 'vets' (who have bitched it was nerfed) dropped groups, they had to nerf it to keep those vets from leaving.
Hi, as far as we know there are going to be some smaller scale PvP coming with Endwalker, so it should cut queue times and bring more variety to the table. But we'll see in November how it'll be :)
Eh... If I were you, I'd resign myself to be part time weeb and scratch the PvP itch elsewhere. The PvP crowd in XIV is really starved and it doesn't seem like they'll get more than the ocassional small bone thrown to them.
Long time wow player, have played other games like Eve online, elder scrolls online, swtor, Lotro..and a few bouts with FFXIV, the game that I left back in 2007 to play world of Warcraft was RuneScape and RuneScape is still going strong getting better and quite honestly I think I might just make that my main game.
This. FFXIV feels much larger and more complete as a game because they don't throw away their content in the trash the moment a new patch comes out. WoW has to be the largest game of all time that also feels like the smallest, I don't know how they do it.
That's because WoW does not focus on their main story. There are tons of quests that sends you all over the place and you will need to puzzle them together. That's why I rely on Bellular or Nobbel to create lore videos so I can actually learn about the story.
There's also a big difference in presentation. FFXIV has little bits of dialogue between the characters when you take a quest and when you progress, making them feel "alive". They also often accompany you into fights (even if it's just for show). In WoW, the quest text is usually just dumped onto you in its entirety in a single window the moment you pick (with rare exceptions), so it's like taking a quest from a bounty board. I didn't realize how much difference it made until I moved on to FFXIV.
I never cared about WoW lore because they've never told it well. Warcraft 3's fairly short campaigns told better stories than WoW ever did. They never could properly incorporate the fact that millions of people are playing their game into the lore, most cutscenes act as if the player/s don't even exist, yet the player is the focus on all the random quests in the open world. It's never brought the players front and center and makes the playerbase feel pointless in the overall story.
See the problem is, back in the day WoW relied on a more open-concept game design, where you could have fun literally just traversing the world and discovering things. Look at what Ashenvale Forest was, for instance. I had fun just running around with my friends and PVPing. It doesn't have that sort of appeal anymore with the new expansions. It's very difficult to have both a linear narrative AND the large scale (almost sandboxy) open world. Doesn't work. FF14 picked one of those things and ran with it, WoW tries to do both and consistently misses the mark.
Buddy who has played wow since launch, just quit for ff14. I haven't played mmo's for years and Ashes of Creation might bring me back. Wow is now a sad husk, it will always be the game that brought millions into the genre but it's a relic at this point
7:55 This. From experience, when a company, of any nature, puts numbers above EVERYTHING else, it makes more money, yeah, but at the expense of the people whether they are employees or players. When this point is reached, an aura of negativity is created that grows little by little without stopping, and things never end well.
@@stormdragon2529 With their current devs? HAH! They might as well just say that Azeroth is going to die and be eaten by the Old Gods/The Void. THAT would be a fitting end to current WoW.
Blizzard was a 'superstar' developer, with personalities tied into the development. You can see, literally, in the expansions where those OG names started leaving or being pushed out in the WoD - Legion flip. Legion was much more complete and polished than WoD, and felt like the true successor to Pandaria and Cata. Clearly WoD was pushed up and took Legion's slot. The first half was good, table aside, aspirational, and had potential in the narrative, then collapsed in the second half. If you view the story in arcs, Cata-MoP-Legion are all the same story arc. Battle for Azeroth makes no sense from a story point, especially following Legion. However... if it followed WoD, and was an Azeroth in that alternate timeline... with an Iron Horde fleeing through the portal... Legion would be the last of the old group's writing and guidance, then BfA would have been under the new group who had no investment in the lore or playstyle of the game that was.
One of the biggest issue I have with WoW is that they spend 2 years building new systems, sinking dev time into them, just to drop everything and move on to the new systems in the next expansion. FF14 takes their systems and builds on them and tweaks them to make them better.
ffxiv was at the stage where it was fucking incredible 5-6 years ago, with the release of heavensward, but it's good to see the wow community finally catch up and get on board.
I agree with u in some way, am new to the whole FF thing, and dont know much about the game overall. I feel like even if FF was problably incredible back in the day, only now more people are seeing it. Cause, in a lot of ways, wow is killing itself slowly with time, and as the grand behemoth of a game it was, its always overshadowing other really GOOD games. Anyway, i really think as wow launched Shadowlamds, it sucked after few months, theres no more content, AND FF is launching a new expansion, everyone in the FF community is hyped for it, just like Wow used to make us excited. And to complete all this, the biggest streamer in wow is 'leaving' wow for FF. Everything built up together makes the game have really good visibility and helped stabilish its ground as the new biggest great MMO. Just like bellular said, FF is not a new game, its needed its time to consolidate and it made it really well competing against wow (despite blizzard killing their own game),thats a lot of content, and the community ystem is rather good, guess thats what makes the game even more enjoyable and easy to aproach in some ways(also despite the buying the game stuff)
Yeah, WoW players aren't "catching up", it's bigger than that. We're loyal, but Blizzard's craziness & nonsense has left us; so, many of us are hoping to have a rad community & GAME to ally with
@@Steven9567 A company, at its core, is simply a set of people operating on common ideals towards a shared goal. This is as timeless as Humanity itself When their methods are ethical, they make a fantastic product(s), take care of their team-mates, and listen to their users, then they deserve support Hence that team - the true "company" - have earned it. If they veer from this path, then support is withdrawn
I'm really hoping an ESO dev hears asmon's idea for wearing collectible heads on your mount. There are so many badass looking trophies from dungeons in ESO that I'd love wearing on my mounts.
First off, great video, so glad Bellular finally came on Allcraft... I have been enjoying watching both Asmon and Rich play FFXIV... I started playing FFXIV in late 2019 and it has such a strong community that I miss from WOW which I haven't felt since the early days of WOW... Also, I never got WOW'd from WOW fights the way I do in FFXIV big boss encounters... they really are more of a fun challenge and beautiful to look at. I played WOW from beta 2004 and launch, off and on until 2019. WOW never focused well on social content, and social content does strengthen a community. Activision became the slow poison that really did them in though. Once all the founders, the designers, all the heart and soul of Blizzard basically, were gone... and I saw the push for wow tokens, the RNG, the grind, the relationship, the guilds constantly falling apart... I could not feel immersed anymore, and I could not enjoy a game where I could not respect the people making it anymore. FFXIV is a more complete game because it has a better balance between social content and aggressive battle content and the threading of the story throughout is just so well done...
I logged in back into WoW a few days ago. When I realised that I had to change my covenant to stay relevant and forge a new legendary I uninstalled it immediately
Fuck that shit, "player choice" my ass, it's not like the covenants would EVER be balanced to a point where you could choose any of them, it's almost like they do this on purpose to make players grind again for covenant and legendary so they have better engagement metrics every patch, it's ridiculous they don't care if you're having fun at all, in fact if you're having fun you can bet they'll shut that thing down to normalize it
Having played WoW vs FF, I much prefer the way FF takes you through every piece of content in a kind of linear fashion. When you start the game, you're in easier content, moving slowly up through the expansions and seeing things get more difficult. But importantly, you do the whole expansion before moving to the next one. In WoW, I always felt like halfway through these older expansions, I'd have outlevelled it and was being pushed onto the next thing, without having the chance to finish the story of the area. I remember finally being able to do WotLK, only to hit maybe the 3rd or 4th zone and being punted over to Pandaria instead. I never made it to Icecrown, because I was making the mistake(?) of wanting to experience as much as I could, doing sidequests and other things in order to further immerse myself in the world. I wish WoW did the same thing as FF, where the expansions are certain levels of content, but that it's entirely possible to go through that span of 10 or so levels in a more paced amount of time. I made the mistake of wanting to enjoy the content WoW had for levelling instead of speedrunning my way to max level (110 at the time)
When ESO came out with One Tamriel, it changed the game so much. ESO has so much in the game between the crafting, achievements, trials, vet dungeons, vet dlc dungeons and exploration the games just so big. Hell I didn’t even mention the lore and questing, the way you can play and build your character and be viable is almost endless. There’s so much RP between becoming a vampire and werewolf, what’s cool is if you become a vampire you get a whole set of passives and new skill tree that has some of the best spell effects, but the coolest thing is how the NPCs treat you, using your abilities in town is a crime and result in being attacked and fined. Then NPCs won’t talk to you so you have to use a ability called hypnotize to charm them so you can interact with vendors and quest givers.
I know that many of the pre-cataclysm developers, artists and programmers were either fed up and left or were unceremoniously fired. Many were the creators of Guild Wars or were picked up bu other developers. While I love the lore, I would not be surprised to discover that the remaining staff just don't know how to innovate like former employees.
I don't know what's more distracting to me from the conversation being had: Chat talking to Rich. Or Rich reacting to chat about how he's reacting to chat.
THE BEST COIN FOR WOW TO KEEP PPL IS CALLED NOSTALGIA-HOMESICKNESS: we stay here cause of the memories and the physiologically need to feel as good as we felt on previous expansions.
Man I think Rich spoke the realist truths when he ranted about Blizzard doing everything right to make cash. And then Bellular just rambled on about MDI metrics dropping and other issues he has with the design of WoW while completely missing Rich's point. Blizzards SOLE focus now is to simply put cash in pockets and all that's needed for them to do that is to make the box look as shiny as possible so people spend their money first and complain second.
@@shogged What do you mean relax? I know he's awesome. I'm just saying he made the best point out of the 3 of them. I think you may have misread my comment if you think I'm upset.
i wonder how much money square enix is spending to get ahold of licensing for stuff like avengers and guardians of the galaxy. i imagine that stuff gets more budget than FFXIV...and if that avengers game is anything to go by its not exactly being profitable. i think this recent surge in FFXIV might get them to consider changing priorities in the near future.
When Employees of any company lose interest, or vision, or passion (or perhaps they never had it and the people with passion left), then what's left over is retention. Employees at that point will to just enough to not get fired (or to keep their bonus level up to whatever it is).
Rich is so on the ball with the reality of Blizzard. It's sad that though its reality, the only thing you can do about it is just not play the game anymore.
The feel of Shadowbribgers is really good, I'm about halfway through the story and it just feels like a traditional fantasy RPG, traveling around, killing the big bad of each zone, and restoring the night sky, (thats all I'll say without spoilers) but it feels super satisfying. Its simple, yet something I can still care about as a player even if someone skips cutscenes. You don't have to have a super intricate story with character redemption arcs to make an interesting plot, or setting.
Blizzard before 2010: let us make a game that engages players so they have fun and come back to the game. Blizzard after 2010: let us make a game that forces players to stay online so we can milk them as much as we can.
One thing that would stop Mount saturation and something that would fix a lot of WoWs issues is making old content worth something. If all the raids and dungeons scaled to your level it would mean something again. Have them still be soloable like currently for the Transmog community because that is still fun. But create some sort of Level Sync and tie the old mounts to collecting the achievements while level synced that way the old mounts have that gravitas to them again.
Ok, I didn't even know I wanted permanent timewalking until I heard the system in FF14 explained. That sounds awesome for getting footage of hard ass previous boss fights. Blizzard does have a system in hearthstone were they let you play old, un-nerfed cards and decks. Or maybe it was just for 1 event, but whatever the case that seems like something they could do in wow
There is technically permanent timewalking in WoW, it's the two different versions of WoW currently available. Vanilla wow and tbc classic
@@jrinron1926 true, it doesn't recreate the conditions of 2.0 to the letter. Hovewer, it still makes the fights fun to play through and leaves a lot of room to actually die on them.
@@jrinron1926 Yes it isn't the exact same back then and also the food you use isn't scaled down as far as I understand so you still can get a huge boost to stats with that. But even tho - it is still a very viable system to play old content which is still awesome.
@@jrinron1926 the content is still difficult. Put a bunch of sprouts in turn 5 with no knowledge and they will still wipe a shitload and have a good time figuring out the fights.
ive been saying for a looong time that wow needs to rework the old expansions/core gameplay to be relevant in any expansion. Spells items trinkets anything really. They are only used for mog runs now typically, having potentially different specs for each expansion. I think they need to go crazy then sloooowly turn chaos into a funneled experience for each community. You throw a shit ton of new spells the pvp and pve community would not complain at all. New spells are only a problem because level boosts rob players of learning slowly, no one would complain if you had to learn them in a new system that STAYS in the game.
To be honest I’m an old gamer. 32 never played MMOs. Asmon got me into Ff14 and I wish I could thank him. He’s always been true to himself since he’s started. It’s refreshing to see a genuine person gaming.
When Asmon and Belly stream together, something big is happening.
WoW files on the mainserver are getting corrupt and they realy need to remake WoW?
New channel: Bald and Belly.
It was too short 😢. I WANT MORE
@@MrBigsmallguy Then go check the VOD it was 3 hour podcast
@@francoisturgeon1176 Shut the fuck up lmao
"An expansion should not be subtractive" - The fact that we have to explain that is painful. Great quote.
Makes me think of Destiny 2. You would think they left Activision because they disagreed with their monatary sleeziness... But no, they are continuing to do that, they just didn't want to share in the profits.
The best MMO imo right now is Guild Wars 2 and NO ONE is talking about it and that is so sad. I hope the End of Dragons expac is gonna bring some hype back to it!
@@hellgast0 I love GW2 but I don't really see how it's that great to play right now. It's certainly nice for people who've missed out on older content and can catch up on it now, but I don't really see much of a reason to play it actively before the new expac drops.
I remember the first expansion to wow. I lost 25%ish crit rate after I was done leveling down and from then on I don't remember ever not being able to find 10 majorly dumb things. It's just that now there's nothing good either.
@@Til_What I mean, that's the great thing about gw2.. you can take a break and come back when new content drops for free! Also it's a great game for new players to jump in right now imo! And even returning players should have some fun! With the legendary armory, you can not say there isn't anything to do right now...
@@hellgast0 Oh no, I agree with that completely. GW2 is my happy place when it comes to MMOs. And it's for sure a game new players should look into way more.
Sure, new legendary armour is nice to have, but it's not like there was some major content drop to appeal to veteran players who are just leaning back and waiting for the expansion (unless you really crave some GW2 rn).
I'll personally wait till the expansion is closer or released to farm it alongside other stuff, but that's just me.
These editors don’t take no breaks damn
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@@m1lkshake766 couldnt have said that better
@m1lkshake This video quite literally has no ads and unlike 99% of other Twitch highlights channels we NEVER have mid-rolls on our videos...
- Daily Dose of Asmongold
@@AsmonTV you guys genuinely rule. never get sick of "get enough" at the end too
@@AsmonTV norn iron man in the house happy days, i dont play these games but I enjoy this entertainment around it
"An expansion shouldn't be subtractive." This is what I've wished forever. We have so much wasted content the moment a new expansion drops.
Even within the same expansion, content is outdated after the next major patch most of the time...All it takes is for them to raise the item level cap with newer gear as rewards for participating in the added content that the patch adds into the game whatever it happens to be, new dungeons/raids, some new world bosses or a PVP event, etc.
Once you can obtain higher end gear than you could get in the raids/mythic+ from the previous patch, everything you've accomplished before becomes obsolete and meaningless. Likewise with these secondary systems such as our artifact weapons in Legion, or the Heart of Azeroth and our Azerite gear in BFA, Covenants and conduits in SL, All of these things we spent our time grinding and farming to level up and progress our characters is also rendered useless as soon as the next expansion drops.
We shouldn't NEED all this extra stuff to make our characters feel powerful, and I can't for the life of me understand why Blizzard continually adds in all these secondary systems, only to pitch it in the bin and take it all away from us once the expansion is over. It's not a good feeling because without them, you feel gimped. Case in point, the corruption abilities on gear at the end of BFA. Once those were removed from the game our dps output was MUCH lower.
FFXIV doesn't do that at all...EVERY dungeon/raid is continually being run in some form or another thanks to the Duty Roulette. People leveling up characters are required to do them to continue the story and advance to the next chapter/expansion, but you also see max level players doing them to obtain rewards from their challenge log every week. You also get currency which allows you to purchase gear that drops in those raids to be used as transmog, as well as the mounts you can obtain from them.
Expansions in that game don't render everything else obsolete, which is amazing IMO
I know right?! Look at FFXIV, everything is still fucking relevant! WoW basically just drops everything for no reason every damn time a fucking expansions end.
As well as time limited collectables that get outright removed
THis right here is why I haven't looked back from WoW ever since I jumped on FF14 around 5 years ago.
Not only content there is still present even as you work your way on the new stuff, they always find ways of returning to previous parts of the game and either give you something new and big (The Firmament) or give you incentivies to run old content (Moogle tomestones, relic weapons, Ultimate and Unreal raids).
I don't think old content is removed from that game, rather phased out but present and at different times on the expansion, actually relevant again.
The fact retail WoW REMOVED Vanilla with Cataclysm alone was a massive red flag and it only got worse from there.
@@AKImeru this is when WoW stopped being an adventure and turned into a raiding game with the other content existing to support it
"I am Asmongold's editor and my name is SPEED."
no your the flash 🤣
Cat Dany*
"Which is the substance I need to take in order to do all this editing in a timely fashion"
How big is the FF14 world?
@@agentgrey5696 download it is free till level 60..big enough..not massive.
I must say, asmon and belluar go really well together. They should have their own podcast 👌🏻
Rich not required
@@ComfortableTool86 sure lmao
@@radiantapexer2383 how you feel about that comment now 😂
Blizz is so incredibly out of touch with their fanbase.. its getting worse and worse and more obvious.
They became too corporate, none of the original devs are left or the founders of the company and all they care about is money.. They're EA games 2.0 now.
Blizz needed this to happen. I thank these content creators for switching a much needed narrative and exposing the issues loudly. Also, I'm not saying this will fix anything. I personally think WoW's grave will only grow bigger and bigger to it's eventual death. But, Blizz needed to feel this pressure -- so badly.
@@ssjonupants agreed. open dialogue is important, but calling asmon an asshole isnt very productive LOL
Not just world of warcraft, but also Heroes of The Storm, which i wish it wasn't the case coz that game has a lot of potential still
if only the fanbase wasn't out of touch too...from the very beginning
Blizzard's goal is to give the least amount of content and polishing they can possibly get away with that people will still play and spend their money on. At this point I wouldn't be surprised if they had a formula on a big whiteboard that employees are constantly reminded of.
I 100% believe this is the case.
Player engagement metrics, how can we milk every second more of the player to get a good metric for shareholders? I bet they have salary bonus related to that shit.
activision at play
@@kevinwarmerdam Blizzard and activation are essentially the same entity at this point
It is called MVP. Minimal viable product. Your observation is 100% spot on.
Friendship ended with "small indie company", now "multi dollar company" is my best friend
Ah yes multi dollar company
2 dollarinos
@@sasukefaan why do hate both
@@sasukefaan nty, i'll take the rich company who listens to players and makes a good game over the one who treats players like a nuisance and designs the game around making them play for longer
@@GrayNotGrey_ Square listening to players? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
A month ago these three were depressed and angry playing wow. Now they all look so happy and full of life playing ffxiv. Seeing them so happy makes me feel so good inside, hell it doesn’t even have to be ffxiv, as a long-time ffxiv player and viewer of them as long as they're happy, I’m happy.
People get tired of trying to give feedback to better the game, only for that feedback to be almost completely ignored, at some point you just don't care anymore, it isn't worth it.
It does get old assuming every one left for FF it doesn’t have open world PvP which is a massive chunk of the mmo pie. I’m holding out for something new.
@@manuelsilva6244 I swear the more I read your comments the more you are proving my point I originally stated about you. WoW is boring as hell even before you hit end game. I am by no means a hardcore FFXIV fan but even I can tell there is so much to do in that game that its just fun period. The only thing I see missing from FF that I would like to see is a yes a better pvp system ( but I can get my fix with so many other games) and more voice acting
@@lemontlegendz Your still hopping on the band wagon with feverish rage though.
@@manuelsilva6244 FF XIV has plenty to do. Whether that's crafting/gathering, gold saucer mini games, mount/pet collections, extreme trials, alliance raids, savage raids, and even ultimates, and can even sync all the content to have proper challenge. There are also treasure maps, relic weapon glamours, ocean fishing and fishing itself which has its own goal if you want to gather all the different types of fish, the bozja/zadnor extremely difficult duels, obviously the occassional patch main story that is actually top notch, level all classes on the same character for maximum flexibility, etc. Hell, you can even do blue mage raids and gather spells/etc.
The catch here is that none of the above is tied to character POWER progression aside from Savage. The rest is just for personal fun, achievements/goals, etc.
Meanwhile, Shadowlands requires you to do m+, raiding, world quests, kill rares, torghast, pvp, grinding the maw, and all of that for POWER progression in order to raid optimally. I am sorry but paying a sub to have a 'virtual' job, which you work towards in order to even earn the RIGHT to have fun is borderline retarded. In XIV there are obviously massive grinds, but you do them only because you want something that looks cool, not because you struggle at progression and MUST grind it, otherwise you disrespect ppl's time.
As for people not playing much XIV atm, big deal. The relic grind is still keeping ppl engaged, and there are ultimates/blue mage raids ppl are tackling in order to pass their time. I've cleared 2 out of 3 ultimates over the last 3 months or so, and working on my last one. After that I will take a break till Endwalker, so that I can enjoy the game. Meanwhile ppl who waited for shadowlands played with a shitty corruption system, which only got fixed 4-5 months in the last patch of the expansion, and then the corruptions were even timegated, to force you to stay subbed till shadowlands, if you wanted to get as strong as you possibly could lol.
Square should invite these three to the next fanfest. And Zepla should be the VIP.
Baldfest
Zepla will look at Asmongold battlecry *Big*ick damage!*
A good company would watch this and fix their game but not Blizzard.
They earn money on every expansion ，the only way the game go dead until they stop.develop the new content ,this is the true meaning of “only wow can kill wow itself “
Its the EA influence that started this shitshow with companies. First it was activision. Then the 2k games. And now blizzard…
Ftfy: *but not Activision
This is the business model and its on purpose YOU are not the audience, WHALES or turning people into whales and only having whales left playing is the point, your a distraction and resource drain with just a sub expecting a quality game product.
Paul Newton that mindset doesnt even make sense in wow since you 12€ a month to play the game so every player is safe profit!
@@binmalik58 Not if players cost part of that to support, we are talking about a mindset where acceptable profit is not $0.05 per player.
I've been having more fun the last 2 weeks in FFXIV than I have in WoW since Legion
Jesus Christ.... that just hit me hard.. I haven’t liked the game since legion and I still log in everyday.
I left at the end of BFA for just that reason. I couldn't imagine giving my hard-earned money to play a game that's not fun, anymore (for me).
It was the same for me 2 years ago.
I don't know what helped me realize that, I just knew I had fun. Maybe it isn't any deeper than that. Game's fun, because games are meant to be fun.
Blizzard has lost sight of that. As have most AAA studios these days.
I had actually quit during Cataclysm but came back because Legion sounded like fun. Few things aside ((Making all of the Watchers in Duskwood villains ticked me off to no end)) it was pretty fun. Then came BFA...
@@coreyhobbs4834 I've played WoW since early vanilla all the way to BfA's Nazjatar "content" patch, after which I decided that enough is enough.
Recently started playing FFXIV, and it's been a blast.
I honestly think that leaving WoW for FF and not looking back is the best activity you can do if you want to keep playing MMO.
Pity you didn't have this a WEEK later. Jesus you'd have enough for ANOTHER 3 hours now.
It's crazy how we are all going to look back at this moment in time and remember the official fall of WoW. A cascading avalanche has happened and we are living history in the making
Well said sir.
WoW fell during WOTLK. Happy people are finally taking notice
Feels bad man 😞😞😔
actually the wow player count rose the last month 🤓
"History is lived, not learned." An NPC in FFXIV.
TL:DR
WoW: Is a theme park that closes down and rebuilds a brand new themepark every expansion next to the old one.
FFXIV: Is a theme park that adds a new section to the park every expansion but the rest of the park is still open and fun.
Spot on!
@@manuelsilva6244 Yes you absolutely do. Theres always PFs open for peoplw who just wanna run old content for gear, mounts or even just to experience it.
@@manuelsilva6244 What are you talking about?! I see people in Party Finder doing old content all the time. People grinding out poetics for old relic weapons. The Shadowbringers relic weapon has you revisit Heavensward and Stormblood content. Plus mount farming, achievements ect.
@@manuelsilva6244
In WoW the old expansions are neglected, forcing new players to buy a level boost to follow the latest release !
Just look at the crafting on FFXIV, low level resources are also used for HL recipes for new expansions. In WoW the old resources are good to put in the trash or to force the old players to pay millions of gols because they are resold at a high price !
@@manuelsilva6244 I know you're a total WoW shill, but that's reaching delusional level of wrong.
I'm so used hearing their voices in the same video, but them actually responding to another took me off guard a few times ngl :D
We got so used to them reacting to each other lmao.
Dude same haja
Trying to follow the story of WoW as a new player was so hard. It felt like the Horde Warchief would change every scene and I had to look up a wiki to figure out what was going on. FF14 just lets you play from start to finish with each new expansion being added to the end, so every new player gets treated to this big epic storyline.
You're so fucking full of shit it's unbelievable.
@@bikerboy3k Thanks, you are an attractive person.
@@WolfCoder I'm an attractive man*
As a Horde-player, that's hurt a lot, dude. Most of famous charater in Horde die each expansion.
Imagine. Clearing Wraths raids as they were at the time, or having the option to bend the raid over and deliver the deep dick with your now maxed out character. That. That is why I love XIV. I just redid Coils of Bahamut a few days ago, as close to it was on release as possible, and I didn’t even PLAY when that was the end game content.
I kinda want Asmon to appear on State of the Realm to give his opinion like this on a more FF14 orientated show.
Or Mogtalk
@@StarWrecker23 either one. I think once I see him on either of them I'll see it as the community fully accepting the Bald One.
Somehow I cant see Mr Happy and Asmongold meshing that well. Mr Happy has such a chill friendly persona
@@InRealTime769 watch Asmon's other channel "Zackrawr" to see his personality off stream and how he would act on State of the Realm. He's only loud mouth and hyper on stream to stir up the chat for views. He's an entertainer but when he does VLOGs to talk about stuff he's really calm and eloquent.
@@StarWrecker23 Frosty is da man so i would vouch for Mogtalk!
I finally arrived to watch this 4 years after it was announced.
Want lore justification for harder fights? In FF14, theres a random Bard who is your biggest fan. Everytime you beat a boss, he asks you to describe how you did it.
So the harder mode is basically a guy hyping you up in a bar, dramatizing you winning easy mode
EDIT: I was reminded that the Bard is Yoshi-P's (the game director) self insert character.
Ahh, the good ol' Wandering Minstrel. LOL
This is what I love about this game these small details that explain game mechanics through the lore.
@@hodes7562 The poems are beautiful.
He's not a random guy. The Wandering Minstrel is Yoshi P's self insert character. The harder modes are the game director dramatizing fights to make you look like more of a badass than you already are.
Oh I didn't know that, it's so cool XD
Blizzard will laugh at this interview, refusing to see that they were trying to improve the game, not just shit on it.
I don't think they're going to be laughing at much, anymore
Rich was just watching catgirls on his monitor the whole time
Nah Lalafells.
@@gamegodtre141 lalafells with cat ears glamour on
@@Mortal_Indeed "FBI OPEN UP !!"
@@zwarth123
DOOR BREAKS
Saw lalafell have mustache
RETREAT! ITS FALSE ALARM!
@@zwarth123 male mustache lalafel : what are you gonna do to me, officer... 🧐
I just started last night and hit level 9 and had such a great time even within that time frame! I enjoy watching the cutscenes and reading what quest givers have to say, about to hop back on now!
This is EXACTLY why Blizzard fails - ARR can be kind of a slog but even in that, the moment to moment gameplay makes up for it hands down
So all we needed was *nobody* playing WoW to get Bellular on....
Loremasters, what's the history of Bellular? Watched Asmon more since he started playing my mmo and I feel behind.
@@Dadude572 bellular is the irl loremaster
WoW needs to fail. Blizzard doesn't know anymore how to make a game the players want. FFXIV started off as a game players didn't want. It failed hard and SE brought in the right guy in YoshiP and they rebuilt the game by listening to the community and have continued to add to the game after they hit the right mark and haven't changed the game because they have a base the players wanted and started playing again to experience. Blizzard started with a game people wanted and then continued to try and change that game to expand to a wider audience so much that they threw the original player base under the bus time and time again till they have a game nobody wants. Once that happens. Hopefully they'll take that like SE did and rebuild WoW into a game people want, Warcraft 2. Create a new game, have some balls, and make it based on what your playerbase wants, not what you think will hit the widest audience possible with a mediocre product.
But honestly I don't think the devs at Blizz even know how to make unique content that's enjoyable. They are too corporate now and too disconnected with the public.
Activision failed, Blizzard bailed
I think the problem today is that almost none of the original developers are around, those that played games themselves and developing wow was their hobby. What’s left today is ppl that just see their work as a 9-5 job and all they hear are the upper management hammer them with feedback on quarterly earnings etc.
You have no clue what the fuck you're talking about.
But their profits are at an all time high, so there's no real reason to make changes, in their eyes.
Few months after release of WoW Classic i'm stopped play WoW myself and barely watch Asmon streams, and now i'm watching every single stream or go to youtube if i missed it. This weeks since July 3rd was so much fun, today i'm installing FFXIV myself
Hope you like the game, it is very story driven so be prepared with that. 😅
The game gets so good later on. Stick with it and you absolutely gonna love it 👌🏻
Yessss dude! Join us!! I hope you love it 🥰
@@manuelsilva6244 lmao
@@manuelsilva6244 I completely disagree with you I enjoyed classic and I love the hell out of FFXIV its just so much to do its crazy. You honestly sound like one of the diehard WoW fans that shit on anything that remotely sounds better than WoW. We all know this game is circling the drain Blizz only cares about profits at this point they don't give a damn about its player base outside of the hardcore raiders, Mythic+, and PVP players that they can make money off of with esports
10 years from now we'll all be sat here watching "Asmongold Reacts to The Fall of WoW by Internet Historian"
@@Tallborn5 eh haven't played in years just too lazy to update profile pic
Back when SWTOR revolved around the Republic and Sith - instead of some foreign empire outta no where.
@@riftbandit223 Played from launch until my guild finished Revan HM and our NiM Timed runs then just peaced out
And still living in moms attic
_" While they talked about the future of WoW and how to possibly safe it, the crazy new-age ideologists at Activision talked about toxic masculinity. "_
LoL
McConnel. It is okay. You dont need to hide that you whipping the editors to ship more videos. I already knew from the beginning
I remember when I got the Headless Horseman’s “plate” helmet on my “leather” wearing demon hunter, and how this prevented me from having a xmog of one of the rarest pieces of armor to get. I became rage that day and somehow the game managed to make me hate myself and feel like trash.
Im sorry to disappoint u but the plate helmet is not even close to be one of the rarest items to get, its like a 100% chance if u do the event for some days with a plate character
@@Dathrix I did for days on a plate character every year, for years and never got it. I guess some people just need to sound like they know something but actually don’t lol
@@christophersatkowski8548 it's not even close to being rare, mate.
@@christophersatkowski8548 I never got it, on my 5 plate characters, for 9 years.
@@khrislove5277 thank you, 6-7 years for me. Still hasn’t dropped for a plate character. Just the one troll drop for my DH. :/
Has a hunter ever tamed Asmongold's eyebrows?
Its a GM pet
@@Tom3kkk you sure a GM can tame it?
''why is blizzard so cash strapped"?
probably because they used 90% of their budget to pay bobby kotick 155 MILLION dollars for one year of "work".
@@manuelsilva6244 my point is that they don't seem to have their priorities straight. This is super near sighted capitalism at its best
@@manuelsilva6244 that said, Kotick is hugely overpayed compared to other CEO's running in the same industry. Seriously, he recently got a $155 million pay bonus. The average AAA video game takes about $70 million to make and more than twice that is going to him as a bonus.
Activision is not Blizzard and Activision Blizzard is not Blizzard.
Kotick is Activision and since we can agree that when Activision came into the boat it all went down it wasn't an immediate thing to start the downward spiral.
But please just stop talking of Activion Blizzard as if it was all Blizzard.
Kotick has nothing to do with Blizzard, he is an Activision shithead.
And in the end: all you do is saying what you don't like.
Start making it better.
Start a company, make videogames and in a few years you can start talking about what you have achieved in the business.
Do I like what WoW is now? No, I don't.
But for me Warlords was one of the best expansions. I loved the garrison, I really liked every single thing about it.
And I know I a almost alone with this opinion.
@@NeckLicKhia Bobby kotick is the ceo of Activision blizzard. You can try and believe that blizzard is separated from him and Activision all you want but that's just undeniably false. And no I won't start a game company I have no interest. I'm a gamer not a developer and that doesn't mean I don't have the right to call out bullshit or that we don't have the power to change the direction of games. I never mentioned wod . Are you on crack?
Incredible group of gamers, great to hear their perspectives on all this stuff!
I'm so happy to hear this stuff being talked about out in the open now. Can't fix something if you don't acknowledge that it's broken.
I've legit been playing PoE since closed beta and only play FFXIV as an MMO. It's crazy to see content creators that I watch just all resonate with how I've felt about gaming. Good times.
Blizzard lost a 20 year fan today. I am genuinely sad.
You’ll be back
@@noahleach7690 no he won't, what's the point!
Eorzea welcomes you
@@knight654654 he’s been addicted for 20 years, he’ll be back
WC3 fan, I see.
27:41 has been my biggest gripe with WoW. They introduce something new and then take it away or make it irrelevant in the next expansion...WHY?! Sure garrisons were kinda whack but there was a lot of great potential. There's so much they could've done with that to make them cool.
I think it's because it's a measure of half-listening. They're probably examining data bases to find out how many people actually delve into that kind of content, seeing it's not very high, and cutting the mechanic for the next expansion. So they know people aren't doing these mechanics, they're just not listening to figure out WHY people aren't engaged with their insane underdeveloped gimmicks. Then they try again next expansion with a new absurd gimmick, only to see the same result. They're trying to strike gold but keep digging up pyrite.
I finally subbed to Asmon after watching pretty much all his FFXIV content, and getting a new uploads in my feed too many times to count.
Well deserved, and a week late.
Square Enix must be crying tears of fucking joy how much money did they put into and lost from Crystal Dynamics Avengers live service dumpster fire. And now FFXIV is fucking killing it. Bruh someone should give Yoshi P a god damn medal.
This would be the second time he has pulled their balls from the fire. The first was recovering XIV from the wreck that was 1.0.
No not a medal but a damn statue
@@hisnotsolonely2961 made of solid crystal, of course.
You are not making a dime off F2P trial accounts. Let’s give it three months and see how much of it sticks.
@@Zinaroth A sold out digital version speaks for itself. Sure they are free trial players, but i never ever heard of sold out digital copies.
they have to call it AllFantasy now
AllFamily and they should invite Dom as a special host
How about FinalCraft
That moment when Asmon asks "so Belular, what games are you looking forward to the most?" And Belular responds: " you know what.. Shadowbringers and Endwalker" and the physical reaction from Asmon and Rich was like "fuck yeah dude!" 34:15
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I don't play either of these but this whole thing is wonderful to watch. Finally going to give ff a go.
Welcome to the Eorzean Alliance! Take your time, don't rush the content, get invested in the story and the characters. ENJOY Yourself above all :) And maaaaybe keep a box of tissues handy for some of the cutscenes... You will cry...
Enjoy. It is a massive massive massive RPG and community. It's another world within a world.
@@adambaker4590 yea what adam said. And glad to have you.
You are in for a ride! Enjoy and take your time with the game!
Nobody asked
"An expansion shouldn't be subtractive." Wow, there it is.
It's like anything that has been around for a long period of time, eventually they lose sight of what made them popular to begin with & money becomes the driving force versus customer satisfaction & a quality product. Human greed reins supreme.
Final Fantasy has been around longer than WOW. It has been around since 1987.
Don't be daft on purpose. FF14 hasn't been around as long and FF mainline series has had ups and downs.
Except Ff14 I guess. I’m thinking it might be more of a cultural issue.
@@exoderilos3901 And the company still listens to the fans. What’s your point in this?
They can pull that back though, GTA online is a good example of a game that went too far from what the fans wanted because they were making money and now they are moving back towards what fans really want
You know Blizz devs are seething seeing this.
You think they care enough to be angry??
Even if they were it won't change anything.
Has long has the philosophy is to make the most money out of has little has they can. The only way WoW will ever be good again is if the entire company's focus is changed to gameplay first, and it will never happen will Acti/Blizz
I doubt they actually care. If anything bellular and asmongold are probably blocked already. Lol
@@sparknado3495 If recent "insider leaks" are to be believed, yes they do care, and yes they are mad. Or at least, various individuals in the company are. If that is to be believed there is also a faction in Blizz that say, "they have a point".
@@sparknado3495 that one tard that called Asmon an a-hole certainly did
Fuck. Bell is so goddamn well spoken.
Hahaha
ikr, so crisp and well articulated xD
Bellular, yeah. But Rich is just as insane in these debates, when he gets serious. LOL he's almost like another person than I see on his FF14 streams. I be like, wtf?
You guys didn’t mentioned the one big advantage that ffxiv has over wow. The big advantage is your able to play ffxiv on console with cross save & play.
That's not really unique to FFXIV though. FFXI did cross play with PC, PlayStation, and Xbox nineteen years ago when it launched in 2002.
@@Zazzaro703 you can actually use a keyboard and mouse with your PlayStation for FFXIV. The game supports both regardless of the platform you are on. It's actually how Square Enix does stuff at Fan Fest... they bring a bunch of PS4's and plug in a controller and keyboard/mouse so people have a choice which to use.
I remember in ARR when getting Kirin was the best mount ever!!! Guess what, we STILL love getting Kirin!
Out of all the mounts I use is the Ragelia from the crossover, then the mount from O8S and the seiryuu mount. I still use my chocobo as I made a lot of bardings for it.
My best memory from ARR,
"Lf fate train in northern thanalan"
and? You think somebody that doesn't own it, wouldn't love to get ashes of alar today?
@@dushas9871 No, because it's been reskinned so many times since. Did you miss this part of the video where Asmon explains this?
@@eyesofvenusPeople farm for it for years to this day. And "reskinned so many times"? "So many" is "one"? You're a clown.
when Chris Metzen left blizzard .. blizzard lost its soul .. true story
He hung on too long.
He didn't battle soon enough for story and game play.
Catdany, its ok to sleep. Just a heads up FeelsOkayMan
Final Warcraft: Electric Boogaloo
Time for Daily Dose to do their thing.
Lakanus
30:55 Nobbel is so good, as a Legion baby, I watched SO much of his channel to learn what I missed in previous expacs.
wow was pretty much the only MMO to service australia with a server, but now FF is bringing one over next year, and i can't wait ! :)
Yoooo really?
@@robertwalker7502 Yes, we are going to have Oceanic server coming this Nov.
@@k.vn.k New world will also have one, which is a nice change, first thing i check for any new release, instantly forget it exists if there isn't one.... *cough / lost ark
Glad to see someone mentioning this. It sucks hearing so much about FF but here in Aus I can’t even try it, without messing with the game files, using a VPN, disabling anti virus and what not I can’t even install the bloody thing. Quite annoying. Oh well will just have to wait for November I guess.
@@reganmccarthy8409 You can still play it in Australia, just choose different server. I am at US server and the lag is not terrible.
As someone who's only occassionally playing WoW (like 1-3 months a year) I never understood why Blizzard made the old content so irrelevant with each new add-on. I'm always behind, playing old content but I never feel like it's meaningful beyonf the stories I experience. I have not had a max character since TBC.
Two of the biggest and most loyal wow content creators getting together to shit on Blizzard... really makes ya think dont it?
they do that for years already not on the same video though
@@Dathrix shitting on WoW because they want to see improvements on the game they love is very very different from shitting on WoW while they ALL play WoWs greatest competitor..
@@LuxuFoo they tried doing the former but realized that was a lost cause!
There are many things in FF where I've thought "this is something they should have done in wow long ago", I started noticing it with more and more things until now where I'm thinking WoW is just totally outdated. They're just outgunned.
It's amazing to me that 50 floors of palace of the dead feels like LESS of a slog than 5 floors of Torghast. Wow became amateurish and lazy. It's that simple.
Cod-crossover take: Every in-game earnable skin and variant skin for completing challenges for the character are all worse than every skin in the store. Every weapon skin you can unlock in game is worse than any skin in the store.
That in itself goes to show what is truly important to Blizzard, money talks. Screw the player, screw the effort you needed to make to get the cool stuff. Everything is short-term gain now, except the wheels are starting to fall off and they have shot themselves in the foot. TBH, I don't necessarily mind the instant gratification of the microtransactions, but the top tier stuff should be difficult to attain.
The point about FFs roulette is spot on. WoW has over 100 dungeons in the game and in Shadowlands less than 10 are actually relevant. Imagine if WoW actually utilized all of those dungeons at level cap like FF does (timewalking is a joke at this point). I got real sick of doing the same 8 mythic dungeons over and over. Adding some actual variety would do wonders for the game.
They need to be an incentive for people to revisit old dungeons. For FF it's easier due to multiple jobs leveling for one character. You can choose to be tank, dps or healer for the same dungeons and it still feel like a different experience. WOW doesn't have that system in place but creating multiple alts - which is not the same thing because you won't have the same emotional attachment as to your main.
While I don't think Classic-Cata dungeons would work as well, but I think throwing in some MoP->Legion Dungeons on a weekly rotation for M+ can do wonders. Like you have the current expansion keys, and possibly another 5-6 from previous expansions that rotate in the M+ pool. They can probably normalize some of the weirder gear for balance, and keep vault rewards to current expansion loot just to make sure the vault doesn't get too bloated
@@TehFabled that's exactly what they shouldnt do with gear, make gear a little more weird, its so fucking boring u just look for haste/mastery as an example and that's it why cant there be like some items with more stam or intellect (which should be relevant for mana again) or just tons of stam and 3 sockets, they got literally multiple professions which have no reason anymore because their features got nearly removed, make ppl look for some better pieces in the whole world of wow let them get a socket an enchant and a glyph on it if u dont want ppl to be forced to do it just turn these enchants etc off in the new raid and pvp
@@k.vn.k yeah, but I want my main to stay as a DK, I don't want to change its class to rogue, for that I have my little goblin
WOW, the three WOW veteran musketeers: Asmon - Rich - Bellular. How time has changed. They now reunited in Eorzea land.
They both all still play WoW. You just spread misinfo to make your massive ego just that little bit bigger.
@@obixium7601 Where did I say they don't? Comprehension is not that hard.
@@obixium7601 I see someone is trying to compensate for something...sad WoW is dying, kiddo?
@@palladiamorsdeus Objectively, WoW isn’t dying. It still has 1million more subs than XiV. It will always be alive, just will lose the number 1 spot. You really need to use your brain and research before you talk.
Man after hearing Asmongold i cant wait for him to get to heavensward and see the ending of ARR. Its sad he cant fight the prenerfed final story boss of ARR due to how many casual players couldnt clear it before the nerf......
@@Forien Aurum Vale was nerfed as well, some of the casual dungeons and bosses were actually quite difficult, wipes were expected, and when you won it felt really good. Unfortunately, hordes of players requested nerfs of those dungeons, and developers did what the majority wanted, further widening the gap between people into more difficult and casual content.
NerfS. Steps of Faith was nerfed like three times, the last time around the release of Stormblood iirc.
They were nerfed so people could progress through story without bigger issues. Its not nice if you cant progress to next chapter cause you stuck on some raid bosses. Its nice to have raids mixed with main story but it should only be "story" and not "challenge" Not everyone are interested in wiping 20 times and beeing stuck on one chapter for half day or more. Thats why there are harder difficulty levels for people who are actually interested to clear this with more planned manner.
Steps of Faith wasn't nerfed because it was hard. (The only mechanic you needed was 'hit dragon with dragonkiller.)
It was nerfed because people who had their clears would drop when it popped, which was the real difficulty. Once the 'vets' (who have bitched it was nerfed) dropped groups, they had to nerf it to keep those vets from leaving.
@@Forien Praetorium was never hard. You were always intended to do prae in lowbie equipment.
Whenever Square Enix designates a good team to rework pvp for FFXIV - i'm full time weeb then.
Hi, as far as we know there are going to be some smaller scale PvP coming with Endwalker, so it should cut queue times and bring more variety to the table. But we'll see in November how it'll be :)
They are deleting feast and replacing it with some other 'small scale pvp'. Don't get your hopes too high
We'll see when it comes out. If you're gonna put your hope into anything FF is a good place to start.
@@Light..21 you say that. But on patch 5.58 they are releasing the next season
Eh... If I were you, I'd resign myself to be part time weeb and scratch the PvP itch elsewhere. The PvP crowd in XIV is really starved and it doesn't seem like they'll get more than the ocassional small bone thrown to them.
Long time wow player, have played other games like Eve online, elder scrolls online, swtor, Lotro..and a few bouts with FFXIV, the game that I left back in 2007 to play world of Warcraft was RuneScape and RuneScape is still going strong getting better and quite honestly I think I might just make that my main game.
I like ff14 because of the main story quests. Old content has meaning. Wow lore is a mess not worth sorting threw
This. FFXIV feels much larger and more complete as a game because they don't throw away their content in the trash the moment a new patch comes out.
WoW has to be the largest game of all time that also feels like the smallest, I don't know how they do it.
That's because WoW does not focus on their main story. There are tons of quests that sends you all over the place and you will need to puzzle them together. That's why I rely on Bellular or Nobbel to create lore videos so I can actually learn about the story.
There's also a big difference in presentation.
FFXIV has little bits of dialogue between the characters when you take a quest and when you progress, making them feel "alive". They also often accompany you into fights (even if it's just for show).
In WoW, the quest text is usually just dumped onto you in its entirety in a single window the moment you pick (with rare exceptions), so it's like taking a quest from a bounty board.
I didn't realize how much difference it made until I moved on to FFXIV.
I never cared about WoW lore because they've never told it well. Warcraft 3's fairly short campaigns told better stories than WoW ever did. They never could properly incorporate the fact that millions of people are playing their game into the lore, most cutscenes act as if the player/s don't even exist, yet the player is the focus on all the random quests in the open world. It's never brought the players front and center and makes the playerbase feel pointless in the overall story.
See the problem is, back in the day WoW relied on a more open-concept game design, where you could have fun literally just traversing the world and discovering things. Look at what Ashenvale Forest was, for instance. I had fun just running around with my friends and PVPing.
It doesn't have that sort of appeal anymore with the new expansions.
It's very difficult to have both a linear narrative AND the large scale (almost sandboxy) open world. Doesn't work. FF14 picked one of those things and ran with it, WoW tries to do both and consistently misses the mark.
Buddy who has played wow since launch, just quit for ff14. I haven't played mmo's for years and Ashes of Creation might bring me back. Wow is now a sad husk, it will always be the game that brought millions into the genre but it's a relic at this point
WoW has been garbage since 2010. Your friend is dumb for still playing until now.
@@demonsluger my PC is very old and needs upgraded before I try any MMO. With GPU prices.... It will be awhile
@@demonsluger that's a good idea, thank you. I have always built my own PC for the last 20 years but times change
this was an EPIC moment in gaming history
Asmon's face when Bell say's "back when getting a mount was still an exciting thing." 10:43
7:55 This.
From experience, when a company, of any nature, puts numbers above EVERYTHING else, it makes more money, yeah, but at the expense of the people whether they are employees or players.
When this point is reached, an aura of negativity is created that grows little by little without stopping, and things never end well.
blizzard needs to do a realm reborn. there is no other way
@@stormdragon2529 With their current devs? HAH!
They might as well just say that Azeroth is going to die and be eaten by the Old Gods/The Void. THAT would be a fitting end to current WoW.
Very true and not only in gaming companies.
Downloading FFXIV now wow is in its death throws.
Blizzard was a 'superstar' developer, with personalities tied into the development. You can see, literally, in the expansions where those OG names started leaving or being pushed out in the WoD - Legion flip.
Legion was much more complete and polished than WoD, and felt like the true successor to Pandaria and Cata. Clearly WoD was pushed up and took Legion's slot. The first half was good, table aside, aspirational, and had potential in the narrative, then collapsed in the second half.
If you view the story in arcs, Cata-MoP-Legion are all the same story arc.
Battle for Azeroth makes no sense from a story point, especially following Legion. However... if it followed WoD, and was an Azeroth in that alternate timeline... with an Iron Horde fleeing through the portal...
Legion would be the last of the old group's writing and guidance, then BfA would have been under the new group who had no investment in the lore or playstyle of the game that was.
One of the biggest issue I have with WoW is that they spend 2 years building new systems, sinking dev time into them, just to drop everything and move on to the new systems in the next expansion. FF14 takes their systems and builds on them and tweaks them to make them better.
ffxiv was at the stage where it was fucking incredible 5-6 years ago, with the release of heavensward, but it's good to see the wow community finally catch up and get on board.
Man i cant wait to see them in shadowbringers ita gonna be lit ehit the extreme and the savage/ultimate content.
I agree with u in some way, am new to the whole FF thing, and dont know much about the game overall. I feel like even if FF was problably incredible back in the day, only now more people are seeing it. Cause, in a lot of ways, wow is killing itself slowly with time, and as the grand behemoth of a game it was, its always overshadowing other really GOOD games. Anyway, i really think as wow launched Shadowlamds, it sucked after few months, theres no more content, AND FF is launching a new expansion, everyone in the FF community is hyped for it, just like Wow used to make us excited. And to complete all this, the biggest streamer in wow is 'leaving' wow for FF. Everything built up together makes the game have really good visibility and helped stabilish its ground as the new biggest great MMO.
Just like bellular said, FF is not a new game, its needed its time to consolidate and it made it really well competing against wow (despite blizzard killing their own game),thats a lot of content, and the community ystem is rather good, guess thats what makes the game even more enjoyable and easy to aproach in some ways(also despite the buying the game stuff)
Yeah, WoW players aren't "catching up", it's bigger than that. We're loyal, but Blizzard's craziness & nonsense has left us; so, many of us are hoping to have a rad community & GAME to ally with
@@tidalswarms why are you loyal to a company
@@Steven9567 A company, at its core, is simply a set of people operating on common ideals towards a shared goal. This is as timeless as Humanity itself
When their methods are ethical, they make a fantastic product(s), take care of their team-mates, and listen to their users, then they deserve support
Hence that team - the true "company" - have earned it. If they veer from this path, then support is withdrawn
imagine accidentally sinking the titanic of mmos. and then having that on your resume
I'm really hoping an ESO dev hears asmon's idea for wearing collectible heads on your mount. There are so many badass looking trophies from dungeons in ESO that I'd love wearing on my mounts.
They’d make you pay a sub fee to equip them
I'd prefer TES MMO taking place in 4'th era
probably one of the best conversations on all craft.
First off, great video, so glad Bellular finally came on Allcraft... I have been enjoying watching both Asmon and Rich play FFXIV...
I started playing FFXIV in late 2019 and it has such a strong community that I miss from WOW which I haven't felt since the early days of WOW...
Also, I never got WOW'd from WOW fights the way I do in FFXIV big boss encounters... they really are more of a fun challenge and beautiful to look at.
I played WOW from beta 2004 and launch, off and on until 2019. WOW never focused well on social content, and social content does strengthen a community. Activision became the slow poison that really did them in though. Once all the founders, the designers, all the heart and soul of Blizzard basically, were gone... and I saw the push for wow tokens, the RNG, the grind, the relationship, the guilds constantly falling apart... I could not feel immersed anymore, and I could not enjoy a game where I could not respect the people making it anymore.
FFXIV is a more complete game because it has a better balance between social content and aggressive battle content and the threading of the story throughout is just so well done...
Asmon: "We made up for lost time by having this be like a 3 hour episode."
Me: *Looks at 38 minute TH-cam video*
Me: "WHAT!?"
So much was lost on the editing floor!
@@rstlr01 They need to bring out the Snyder cut.
I logged in back into WoW a few days ago. When I realised that I had to change my covenant to stay relevant and forge a new legendary I uninstalled it immediately
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Fuck that shit, "player choice" my ass, it's not like the covenants would EVER be balanced to a point where you could choose any of them, it's almost like they do this on purpose to make players grind again for covenant and legendary so they have better engagement metrics every patch, it's ridiculous they don't care if you're having fun at all, in fact if you're having fun you can bet they'll shut that thing down to normalize it
I got KSM undergeared, with the worst covenant and as a freaking frost dk, so that excuse is nothing if you're good at the game
Having played WoW vs FF, I much prefer the way FF takes you through every piece of content in a kind of linear fashion. When you start the game, you're in easier content, moving slowly up through the expansions and seeing things get more difficult. But importantly, you do the whole expansion before moving to the next one. In WoW, I always felt like halfway through these older expansions, I'd have outlevelled it and was being pushed onto the next thing, without having the chance to finish the story of the area. I remember finally being able to do WotLK, only to hit maybe the 3rd or 4th zone and being punted over to Pandaria instead. I never made it to Icecrown, because I was making the mistake(?) of wanting to experience as much as I could, doing sidequests and other things in order to further immerse myself in the world. I wish WoW did the same thing as FF, where the expansions are certain levels of content, but that it's entirely possible to go through that span of 10 or so levels in a more paced amount of time. I made the mistake of wanting to enjoy the content WoW had for levelling instead of speedrunning my way to max level (110 at the time)
I seriously love final fantasy. It saved mmos for me.
When ESO came out with One Tamriel, it changed the game so much. ESO has so much in the game between the crafting, achievements, trials, vet dungeons, vet dlc dungeons and exploration the games just so big. Hell I didn’t even mention the lore and questing, the way you can play and build your character and be viable is almost endless. There’s so much RP between becoming a vampire and werewolf, what’s cool is if you become a vampire you get a whole set of passives and new skill tree that has some of the best spell effects, but the coolest thing is how the NPCs treat you, using your abilities in town is a crime and result in being attacked and fined. Then NPCs won’t talk to you so you have to use a ability called hypnotize to charm them so you can interact with vendors and quest givers.
Niiice I've been waiting for this
Imagine if final fantasy XIV revamped pvp. Game over.
I know that many of the pre-cataclysm developers, artists and programmers were either fed up and left or were unceremoniously fired. Many were the creators of Guild Wars or were picked up bu other developers. While I love the lore, I would not be surprised to discover that the remaining staff just don't know how to innovate like former employees.
"I'm not gonna quit wow.." a lot can change in a few weeks eh.. sheesh!
I don't know what's more distracting to me from the conversation being had: Chat talking to Rich. Or Rich reacting to chat about how he's reacting to chat.
I said years ago that it would be really cool to be about to add items to your mount to change the look of it. Armor etc
I still really love WoW, and I have hopes that Blizz/Activision will wake up and bring back the joy.
That ship sailed a long time ago
Don’t hold your breathe. I’ve been waiting for them to make a decent Diablo game for 20 years. I still play Diablo 2 from time to time lol.
THE BEST COIN FOR WOW TO KEEP PPL IS CALLED NOSTALGIA-HOMESICKNESS:
we stay here cause of the memories and the physiologically need to feel as good as we felt on previous expansions.
PPl bought shadowlands thinking they were getting what FFXIV gave us.
i literally paused other videos i was watching, with this in the background
just to see Asmon´s face and the chat when he said *BELL* lmao
Rich just sitting quietly in the middle of two huge personalities lmao
Who are these guys?? All 3...
Man I think Rich spoke the realist truths when he ranted about Blizzard doing everything right to make cash. And then Bellular just rambled on about MDI metrics dropping and other issues he has with the design of WoW while completely missing Rich's point. Blizzards SOLE focus now is to simply put cash in pockets and all that's needed for them to do that is to make the box look as shiny as possible so people spend their money first and complain second.
@@samhardie8417 relax dude rich is awesome, just have a laugh with the rest of us lol
His rant at about 21 minutes in is pretty spot on though.
@@shogged What do you mean relax? I know he's awesome. I'm just saying he made the best point out of the 3 of them. I think you may have misread my comment if you think I'm upset.
It’s crazy to watch this a week later after all the revelations that have happened.
i wonder how much money square enix is spending to get ahold of licensing for stuff like avengers and guardians of the galaxy. i imagine that stuff gets more budget than FFXIV...and if that avengers game is anything to go by its not exactly being profitable.
i think this recent surge in FFXIV might get them to consider changing priorities in the near future.
i still remember the day Ion was on stage and telling us gear should be simpler, no more Raidbots needed, and the gave us Azerite
Omg, all the big WoW streamers are leaving the game. Enough is enough, maybe now Blizzard will actually listen to their players.
NOPE lol. They put all their talented devs for mobile game development. They gave up on MMOs
When Employees of any company lose interest, or vision, or passion (or perhaps they never had it and the people with passion left), then what's left over is retention. Employees at that point will to just enough to not get fired (or to keep their bonus level up to whatever it is).
Rich is so on the ball with the reality of Blizzard. It's sad that though its reality, the only thing you can do about it is just not play the game anymore.
The feel of Shadowbribgers is really good, I'm about halfway through the story and it just feels like a traditional fantasy RPG, traveling around, killing the big bad of each zone, and restoring the night sky, (thats all I'll say without spoilers) but it feels super satisfying. Its simple, yet something I can still care about as a player even if someone skips cutscenes. You don't have to have a super intricate story with character redemption arcs to make an interesting plot, or setting.
Blizzard before 2010: let us make a game that engages players so they have fun and come back to the game.
Blizzard after 2010: let us make a game that forces players to stay online so we can milk them as much as we can.
Truth. That's the year I quit
*Blizz since legion they still tried in Cata,Mop, and WoD
One thing that would stop Mount saturation and something that would fix a lot of WoWs issues is making old content worth something. If all the raids and dungeons scaled to your level it would mean something again. Have them still be soloable like currently for the Transmog community because that is still fun. But create some sort of Level Sync and tie the old mounts to collecting the achievements while level synced that way the old mounts have that gravitas to them again.