@@TheSophisticatedAxolotlYou do realize the game size is decided by the developers and not a rule of the universe, right? It doesn't have to be that giant.
@@pascalsimioli6777 yes they made a huge game which they filled with useful items but they didn’t have enough time to make a unique boss for every single dungeon so there forced to repeat them
It's a game i personally have zero interest in, but it's hard to be a gamer online and not be aware of the acclaim so this will be an interesting video. Enjoy the completely neutral, no experience perspective from me lol
Man, looking at this comment section compared to Quantum TVs review just shows how important it is to be kind and understanding that the game isn't for you unfortunately
Yeah, i admit shit on a fromsoft game the community will chew you up and spit you out. But this guy came in with an open mind and did try but this was his first souls game and this is kind of something to expect from those who haven't touched this genre before but he tried his best and he was fair, and the fact he hasn't touched a souls game before he had no clue what to expect and a fromsoft game isn't the easiest to get into.
@@destinblake5566 Having played every other Fromsoft game, Elden Ring is an absolute mess. The bosses are recycled incredibly often, especially frustrating when one of the games selling points were over 100 bosses. The gameplay is just terrible, straight up. Your character is slow and weak, unless you get rivers of blood! When most gameplay guides literally just tell you to respec to RoB to beat difficult bosses, that should tell you something.. The bosses are way too fast, the camera is STILL HORRIBLE. Lockon is basically non functional on several bosses. Once I got to Fire Giant I quit playing. Absolute slog to try to fight it. Absurd health pools. Notably also Torrent was HORRIDLY designed. Horse combat is incredibly terrible! No I Frames, even jump dodge is very inconsistent and has few visual indicators as to when it will work. Fromsoft clearly put a lot more work into worldbuilding than anything else.
@@coolkid9967 Well said wish they did less bosses and smaller world and focused on quality over quantity I love bloodborne for the minimalist design atmosphere and story I even like Elden ring but people acting like it's the best game ever made is comedic to me hell ER wouldn't exist without dark souls and demon's souls which are incredible games and if you only played ER I strongly encourage going to other games in the series Except 2 lol Hot take I'd argue Elden Ring has similar design to ds2 than any other game boss wise but ER's world looks nice still prefer BB though and if you played ER and like the gameplay try out ds3 literally identical besides jumping and a few other thing more compact world and some of the best bosses.
If only the makers were kind and added a difficulty setting to make it more accessible. I managed to get to level 45 by farming but not far on the map. And after all this time, still i can’t get a parry or dodge timed right more than about 1 in 10 goes (ie im dead) In bloodbourne i could do it about 50%. This week is a terribly inaccessible game as noted by the posts and on various websites with super basic question like ‘how do i equip arrows’. It does not explain things anywhere near enough for people who arent hugely into these games and the lack of pause button is the inexcusable when playing offline.
What got me into Elden Ring was finishing the Dark Souls trilogy. Played Dark Souls a decade before Elden Ring. Loved the games and Elden Ring was supposed to be the next big thing. Elden Ring was probably the biggest disappointment and overrated game in the entire Souls collection. It went open world just for the sake of going open world when that trend has been tired since 2015. The game indicates where to go but when you go there you get destroyed by the boss. So then you explore around to level up(GRIND, let's call it what it is). And the other bosses you find in the very first area(Limgrave) are gank fights. BOTH of them. There is no content in the open world. It's just a lot of empty space wher eyou collect flowers. The entire game I felt like I was underleveled or overleveled. I never once felt like I was going the right direction. There are no quest logs to keep track of other quests. Elden Ring commits insane sins that other games would be trashed for. Unfortunately these games have garnered a fanbase of people that base their entire personality on beating these games and instead of calling out its faults, the majority will say "git gud" because it reinforces their own ego the same way beating a hard game does(Or a game that has a reputation for being hard). From Software has been using the same formula since 2009 and their fanbase never calls them out on it but the moment Rockstar or Bethesda use the same formula for their games, From Software fans come running to tell everyone that developers are not innovative and just recycle the same crap while going back to Elden Ring which is literally just open world Dark Souls which is literally just Demon's Souls. Elden Ring is not a bad game but it's far from a 10/10. I still like the Souls games but as long as the fanbase lets Miyazaki/FromSoft get away with never improving actual issues with the games(Input Reading, Stun locks, Mob spam), we'll just keep getting more of it. Elden Ring is one the weaker titles for me. It's on par with Dark Souls II I would say. Yes, I have finished the game for anyone getting ready to type something dumb like "git gud". I stand by everything I said. This review of the game is absolutely fair because they are the same problems I had when playing it. By the end of the game I was so tired of everything I just wanted to finish it so I could stop playing the game.
For me it's weaker than even DS2. The unfleshed-out open world & repetitive content, bad npc quests, and unsatisfying end-game bosses sour the experience by mid-to-end game. For eg. Malenia was hard, but not fun. I took less time to beat her than Isshin in Sekiro, because I ganked her using Mimic Tear to zero health before she could use her bs Waterfowl move. But I had far more fun with Isshin.
@@MadaraUchiha-iu3ld I mean I'm not gonna lie, I was more satisfied with my first playthrough of Dark Souls II than I was with Elden Ring. Elden Ring just seems like it was designed around wasting the player's time.
Mass respect Eddie, I feel pretty much the same way about the game, as soon as the honey moon period goes away the game falls down quick Compared to even DS2 I feel like is worse, prettier yes, more polished maybe, longer definitely, more contet maybe (quantity over quality) but the main issue is that Miyazaki keeps wanting to one up every game and doesn't know when to stop, it doesn't help the fact that he has a pretty big part of the fanbase boot licking him 24/7 so he actually believes every decision he makes is good, the games have grown stale and they dont know what to do and this is the culmination of all that, anything innovative in bloodborne and sekiro was thrown out in favor of the same safe and boring style that does not work well with a wolrd this big and repetitive and much less with the bosses in this game. I went into this game thinking I'd get darksouls 3 + Bloodborne + Sekiro but with a big world filled with dungeons and memorable bosses and I got nerfed DS3 rolls, a combat that punishes you for being aggressive, a big map with recycled content left and right and bosses that attack faster than sekiro bosses but also do 15 second long strings of attacks and give you 2 or 3 seconds to retaliate but not without sucker punching you while you do so.
I fell for it too... I really regret spending $ on this game. I really tried to "find" the fun but it just wasn't there. The world felt empty and dead and just wasn't fun at all. The music was meh and everything just felt so fake and plastic. IMO the game is very poorly made. I think channels must be paid to say good things about it honestly. It just seems like something for fanboys to play and brag about online. There's no real substance to speak of.
Elden Ring benefited from it being a meme challenge game. After its announcement trailer, the concept of Souls games being the hardest games caught fire, so when the game came out, the reviewers hyped it even more for its difficulty. Prior to this game reviews panned games for being too difficult, by using phrases like "Trial and Error". Sekiro had a better story and better combat system, but didn't have the "Right of passage" meme behind it like Elden Ring. My vote for hardest modern game goes to Ninja Gaiden Black.
same game is so overrated same with bg3 but bg3 later became interesting and i love bg3 now but elden ring was useless for me i even had a nightmare about giants even tho they never killed me and no parry or dodge animaiton is retarded point of gameplay is space space space space space left click space space left click space space space space space left click ….
Same, nothing motivated me. Slow and boring combat, no story to care about, no world interactivity. Looks nice and interesting setting but that’s all I can say.
The only thing that hooked me into Elden Ring was experimenting different builds but I was actually annoyed by the game and its fan base. The game is just so bad and no one can tell me otherwise because I had 200 hours of playtime. I must admit, I got addicted, but the more I play, the more I see how bad the game is.
-Horribly bad camera. -One shot mechanics. -Repetitive ennemies. -Being constantly staggered. -Most enemies don't flinch when you hit them. -Enemy reach. -Many enemies are "bullet sponge" juggernauts. -Main character potato movement. -Grindfest. -The obvious mind tactics consisting in frustrating the player pushing him to grind, then the sunk cost fallacy is implanted. Once it's there, players will say anything to justify living an awful experience.
@@schmietwechdeschiet4340 OK I don’t see why people hate the game. The camera is good it is literally just a standard camera. There are one shot mechanics late in the game that only four enemies have enemies are repetitive at some points, but it makes sense. Why would they add a new character for every enemy, if you’re constantly staggered, you have the low poise and need to wear stronger armor. Every enemy is not going to get immediately staggered when you hit them once enemy reach is not a problem if you know how to dodge if you don’t upgrade your weapons yes, everything is bullet sponge but if you upgrade your weapons, then no I don’t know what potato movement means so we’re gonna skip that. I find the movement in the game fine I don’t feel it’s a grind first personally definitely the least grinding out of all the soulsgame’s. It’s an open world game meaning you have to go find stuff you don’t even have to beat the first boss. You could use the side castle gate to get around Stormville and go get stuff from Leonia if you want, the main thing is that the game isn’t bad the people who played are bad if you don’t wanna spend an hour exploring then yeah you’re not gonna get far and if you ram your head against one boss for the entire game, then probably not gonna have fun it’s open world you’re supposed to explore and get stronger not beat your head against the wall
I totally get where you're coming from. I'm a huge elden ring fan, but I see where you are coming from. Let's not underestimate the power of TASTE. It's the most important reason why you'll ever get into anything. You simply don't have a taste for this type of game. And that's very ok. However, it's not a bad game because it's not to your taste. God of war is not to my taste (at all), but I still think it could have been game of the year. It's one of the most impressive games I've ever seen, it's just not for me. I try to be objective and not let my feelings make me generalise on things (which is quite difficult to do by the way). Where I do see where you're coming from, it's not a bad game at all. It's a masterpiece in art and gameplay. Just not to your taste...
Exactly. I guess it was important to me to let out the fact that, I felt left out, especially when everyone spoke a lot about how awesome it is....and I"m like......not into it, and unable to relate. I DO wish I liked it.
I've been playing these games since the first Dark Souls and rank Bloodborne among my favorite games on the PS4. That said, I agree with you. The Dark Souls style does not make sense in an open world. Aimlessly wondering the world to get into fights diminishes the suspense and there aren't enough interesting rewards and environments that compel me to explore it. I also think this has the worst lore of any From game I've played. I made it pretty far -- the giants area -- and quit. I only got that far because I was playing with a friend who moved across the Atlantic, and we both finally had it. Co-op was fun for a while, but I rather just have a Zoom call. And the From fanboys always will try to convince you that you're playing the game wrong or you don't like it because you suck. I've beaten every From game I've played, and I think they're the most overrated studio out there. Aside from Bloodborne and Sekiro, they keep iterating on the same game since Demon's Souls. They used a massive open world with two cool areas to connect the Dark Souls dungeons -- wow.
Half the endings, weapons, minibosses, great runes, quests, and MOSTBof the exp is gained from exploring, if you think that elden ring should have a quest marker to show you where this location is or where that location is, go play watch dogs legion.
So what you’re saying is the concept of “if the player is stuck let’s give him somewhere else to go” is too crazy for your mind to handle. And the worst lore? Bro you got the story of a serial killer, the story of vyke, the story of the knight of black knives, radahns past, and you’re telling me it’s all garbage?
I can understand someone not liking Elden Ring. It’s not for everyone and is very niche. However, from all the other games you pointed out, it seems to me you’re not a big RPG person in general which is totally fine, everyone has their tastes. My guess (coming from someone who plays many RPGs all the time) is this game was made for those who love the genre. The story unfolds as you play, the world seems empty at first but the more you play, the more you realize it’s full of dungeons, NPCs, hidden treasures, bosses that come out of nowhere etc. It’s truly a big leap in the genre and set the bar high for RPGs going forward because of the massive amount of customization/build variety. Like I said, it’s not for everyone and I have lots of friends who tried it and weren’t into it, but as a long time gamer, you should know there will always be games that completely redefine a genre…THAT is Elden Ring.
Yup. Elden Ring is a genre defining game, from what I've been told. Much respect to it. I did like some RPGs, such as the turn based Final Fantasy games, or the Shining Force series. But Elden Ring and anything like it may be too much for me. Thanks for the comment!
@SwiftBMF I’ve noticed that’s how FromSoftware games are. They don’t give much direction because the main focus is to explore and find things yourself. As far as gear goes, you can honestly use one weapon the whole game. Every weapon or armor you get in the game can be used all the way to the end if you wanted to do that because every piece of gear is viable to beat the game.
As a FromSoftware fan who has played a lot of their souls games, and absolutely loved Bloodborne and Sekiro, I can understand if some parts of Elden Ring was a bit disappointing or enjoyable but the game isn’t inherently bad. I think Elden Ring’s biggest issue is the gameplay honestly, it just doesn’t have that balance that Bloodborne and Sekiro had and it’s likely because FromSoftware had to make some sacrifices as a result of the abundant of content that is in the game and how much of an open world game it is. Coming from these previous two titles (not including Demons Souls remake) the gameplay feels so disconnected between the enemies and the player itself. Bosses like Margit, The Fell Omen feel so difficult and frustrating because the core gameplay wasn’t designed well enough to fit the general pace of these boss fights. Instead it feels like FromSoftware made summons, ashes of war, weapon arts, and spells so OP to compensate the unbalance between the basic melee combat and the boss fights. It’s almost as if there’s no middle ground with Elden Ring due to this, it’s either way too easy if you decide to use any of the FP attacks as your main source or damage or too difficult if you refuse to use any of it. The game just wasn’t designed around a melee only play style, it’s evident with the amount of FP attacks and tools they give you throughout the game. Unfortunately its just the way Elden Ring was designed on a pure gameplay standpoint and for people who don’t want to play it the way devs intended for you to play it, you’re not going to have a fun time even if you manage to beat the game. It’s simply not enjoyable to play without making use of the FP unless you get some ridiculous build with a great scaling weapon that goes with it but again, that’ll just make the game very easy. Because of this if I’m being brutally honest, I truly believe God of War Ragnarok deserved GOTY over Elden Ring due to its inferior gameplay design. God of War Ragnarok does not have any major issues at all with any aspect of that game while Elden Ring sacrificed gameplay for incredible and abundant content.
@Andrew Hernandez Personally, I didn’t enjoy Elden Ring as much as I did Bloodborne and Sekiro, and it all comes down to gameplay. And like you, I’ve played many RPG games especially FromSoftware titles. But yeah I agree with you on some points, Elden Ring does so much right as far as overall content goes and the whole open world aspect of it and it’s definitely not a bad game at all. Unfortunately though I think FromSoftware took a big step back on the core gameplay when you compare it to Bloodborne and Sekiro that made its main attraction the gameplay. Those two games truly evolved the gameplay within the genre and it wasn’t your typical sluggish dark souls gameplay we see all the time. Elden Ring’s main attraction is really the amount content available to keep players busy and entertained. But when you talk pure gameplay, Elden Ring just doesn’t live up to everything else it did so well because there’s such a huge disconnect between the melee combat and the pace of the boss fights. It’s really a game focused around FP usage and magic as almost everything you acquire aside from new weapons consumes FP and for players who rather have that close up melee approach, it’s going to feel incredibly unrewarding (unless you make an OP build) because of how the bosses were designed. Bosses like Margit just don’t leave room for rewarding punishes if you don’t make use of your FP, and it’s frustrating because you have to wait and wait until they do their one or two heavy attacks that have slow recovery and even then you’ll only get 2-3 free hits in max. Due to how the general gameplay is designed, I actually don’t think there’s as much variety as people make it out to be because it’s all going to come down to FP abilities again in the long run or maxing out one or two stats on your build. There’s also no middle ground that balances out the gameplay like BB and Sekiro did so well because FP abilities make Elden Ring laughably easy but without FP abilities, the game is ridiculous tedious with it’s difficulty/patience requirements so it’s not going to be a fun experience overall even if you beat all the bosses the game has to offer. TLDR; In a nutshell, Elden Ring’s gameplay isn’t all that satisfying to the average melee player when compared to Sekiro and Bloodborne because it’s too centered around FP usage. The game is either too easy or too hard because there’s no balance between gameplay and bosses. But Elden Ring is incredibly rich in content and there’s plentiful to do in the game, and just truly incredible art designs from the environments to the aesthetics of bosses. To enjoy Elden Ring, you’re going to have to accept the way the gameplay was designed and adapt to it.
@SwiftBMF You don't know where to go? The game tells you. It doesn't put I giant arrow there, but it still makes it pretty easy to know where you should go. If you look at a grace, there is a gold stream of light pointing you in the direction of the first major boss to fight. It's even easier to see this on the map. Multiple NPCs will tell you this. If you actually spent 20 hrs without knowing this, that is a problem with you, not the game. As for gear, you find most of it in chests or from bosses. How you managed to play for 20 hrs without finding any new gear is beyond me.
@@chrantheman I honestly can't believe some fan of comments. It really makes me wonder, but it's just the internet. I don't take anything in here seriously. It's just entertaining. What's your opinion?
@@PersonalMagnusGames That engaging with you is a fruitless endavor given you take enjoyment from the misery of others and your opinion is set in stone. You went at this game despite it being in a genre you clearly don't enjoy and use a ton of reasoning as to why it's bad when a lot of those features is why the game is good to people who enjoy this genre. It renders this entire exercise pointless.
In Nba 2k20, when game speed is around 70% as usual, it's really bad. It feels likes there is metallic pieces on each side of the floor attracting all players to run fast and move in disorder. While when it's around 55%, no words can explain it. Everything is real, simple, true. It becomes the best basketball game ever.
@Manny Magnus Garcia After watching your thoughts on Elden Ring, I think you would have a much better experience playing a souls game if you go with Bloodborne. Personally I think Bloodborne is easily the most enjoyable for non soul game players. The gameplay is very balanced and fair while retaining that difficulty souls games have and you’ll truly feel the reward for beating each boss (although there are a fair amount of bosses that are easy). The gameplay in bloodborne is very rewarding for almost all play styles in that game because the core combat is refined and well designed. Elden Ring’s gameplay really isn’t balanced all that well and its not enjoyable if you don’t play it the way it was designed to be played. My biggest problem with Elden Ring was how centered it was around magic usage which made basic melee combat redundant to an extent since bosses attack nonstop with little to no openings for a good punish. The second you start using all the FP based abilities like summons and ashes of war and spells, you realize the reason the bosses were designed the way they were in order to accommodate how powerful the tools they give you actually are. Just swinging your weapon at bosses and even a few specific enemies in Elden Ring isn’t enough, you really gotta use at least some of the tools they give you to have any kind of enjoyment with the game. The main attraction with Elden Ring is the amount of bosses and content that is in the base game, that’s what is praised so much with this game. Gameplay unfortunately is the biggest issue with the ER, it focuses too heavily on abilities and doesn’t reward skillful play enough for players like myself who like a challenging fight that is still fair.
I’ve been saying this a lot but I’m always bombarded with “git gud” comments a lot of the time. I’ve played all soulsborne games enjoy each and every one of them but elden ring, I’ve went as high as I could in new game+ on all games. But this one, it’s the least enjoyable one imo
@@sunbro2522 Don’t blame you, Elden Ring is a bit overhyped by souls players at times because it’s finally something new to the genre which is the open world. But that really only appeals to certain players because the game requires a ridiculous amount of hours to complete and far more to 100%. Some players may prefer linear souls games like Bloodborne because it’s far more simple and easier to understand. Elden Ring is far more sophisticated and it takes way longer to fully understand the gameplay and mechanics of the game. So it’s really a different style of game, plus it doesn’t really help that the gameplay is heavily focused around magical attacks and overleveling yourself to progress rather than true balance. It can be really difficult for some souls players to adjust to Elden Ring because it’s so vastly different.
Pathetic, I have a social life, I have a girlfriend and I work as a tradesman in the construction industry. This comment I’m not sure if it’s point is to provoke? But it’s very silly, not seeing the sun when I work in construction?
@@KhanSahinkaya u must have a desk job then cuz no one i know that works construction has the energy or time to play a game like elden ring. i would know since we in the same field chief ;)
@@Aqsticgod mate you have a bit of a calamity on your hands, because I most definitely work in trade. Also not be brash, but you seem to enjoy games quite a lot according to your channel, time definitely seems to be in your favour. Furthermore that profile picture, my goodness. I couldn’t imagine any tradesman iv ever met, to use a cutesie recreation of a pokemon.
Yes it's for a certain kind of person but not necessarily a basement dweller. I also work outside, not a super active social life but I am married so I got that going for me.😅
@@PersonalMagnusGames the tutorial teaches you the very Basic,like locking on. Also this game is more amazing than what it seems,you just need how to play first,then you will enjoy.
90+ hours here to take 100% achievements on Elden Ring and I can affirm that at least 50% of my deaths were because the worst camera system this game have since, I dont know, ps1 games?
So I'd like to sideline this with my own experience with some other games. I cannot get into rogue-likes. I have tried a lot of games people consider masterpieces like hades, risk of rain 2, binding of isaac, ftl. Everytime I try these games I inevitably get bored. I really don't like the rng, I don't enjoy how the progress gets reset everytime, I don't like dying to a boss and then having to redo entire sections. That being said, I am never gonna use this to say that any of these games are bad. Theres a big difference between personal distaste for a game and the game having really bad faults. I played the shit out of destiny but that was objectively not a good game. It was a predatory game with good gunplay and the raids were nice, but had layers of unfair rng and grind. What I am not gonna do is throw up a video saying "hades is a bad game, heres why" and then delve into how my first 5 hours werent fun, how I didn't like the rng or the fact you lose almost everything when you die. That's what you basically did. You threw up a video saying elden ring sucks, then gave anecdotes on why it doesn't personally appeal to you. You don't like the minimal direct storytelling, you don't like the world design, you don't like that the game has challenging encounters. I think you are expecting elden ring to be like god of war or spiderman when it just isn't.
I'm surprised you didn't bring up the camera. That thing is more lost than insert really adult thing here they just that camera gets lost sometimes. Please feel free to use your imagination with where the camera goes when it gets quote lost.
Okay, so there's a lot to unpack in the video, but felt like I'd say a few things after watching the whole thing. First off I wanna say that the route you took with this conversation was well done and not antagonistic in the slightest! Really good video despite being a big fromsoft fan. Also wanna say as clarification that there was a tutorial at the start of the game, but many new players missed that part that taught you quite a bit on how to play. They ended up adding extra stuff in an early patch to emphasize this alternate path so people wouldn't miss it later on. One thing I did wanna talk about was the concept of elden ring being "boring". Truth be told, the word was so over utilized that it was a bit hard to understand what you meant at some point, but what it sort of sounds like is that it comes down to your lack of familiarity with the genre. Elden ring isnt an easy game to pick up, especially if your expertise is elsewhere like retro and more arcade based games. The comparison you used was a side scroller shooter game that was difficult yes, but the difference is that there are tons of side scroller shooter bullet hell esk games like it that, and although they may be different, they can still have some notable similarities like power ups, single direction of shooting, etc. The only games that are similar to Elden Ring are basically other games made from Fromsoft themselves such as dark souls. Its a genre that was made so notorious by this concept that the term "souls like" was coined for any game that had similar fundamentals. With that said, there's nothing wrong with Elden Ring not being a game you're interested in. The game became a massive hype train and was basically the game that brought the Fromsoft franchise into the mainstream which is most likely why it caught the attention of people like you who don't normally play these games. But that doesn't make it a bad game by any means. Elden Ring on a gameplay level is an insanely well polished masterpiece with a lot of thought put into it on a world level. It utilizes very small details as way of catching your attention and keeping you on the correct path. It doesn't give you much context why you're getting hunted by anything that breaths, but you put the pieces together through great bits of lore on your travels. I think it's just worth mentioning that I myself do not like shooter games like call of duty. I find those games to be boring and not interesting in the slightest, but it would be unfair of myself to say that they are bad games because the concept of bad is very subjective unless it's a game like anthem. Either way, good video and keep making videos!
I do agree with what you are saying while still understand where Manny is coming from as well. I was not a big fan either but always wanted to try souls like as it looks that those games are really interesting if you can get pas the difficulty. I tried Edlen Ring a few months ago and did not like it at all. I booted it up a week ago as I found a very good beginer tutorial that put you on the right track and it's way more fun now. The thing with Elden Ring is that you have to know what to do at very beginning and the game does not really help you with that (which is fine, it's souls like and I don't intend to complain about it). As soon as you have some decent stuff this game is such more better.
Getting George Martin to write the story for a Souls-esque game (where the details are released in dribs and drabs) is like hiring a world class chef to prepare the club sandwiches and pretzels for your casual get-together; sure, you're getting quality, but it's not very fulfilling (plus, it's overkill).
its marketing and artificial hype. Kids ate it. There is no story, the world is dead and boring, the difficulty is ridiculous to prolongate time investment of the gamer. Its a bad game, that is all. So agreed with you.
I agreed that Elden Ring and Souls games are not approachable. I am not the fan of Souls game's story telling style too; prefer games that straight feeding me the story like most western games. But I have to say you need to do some research; Souls games and Elden Ring actually has those deeper story and world view compare to most other games. The story exploration is hidden in words, equipment, status, and even the enemy's attacking movements has hints for story. Study the story in Souls games and Elden Ring is basically like archaeology. That's why there are videos that spend more than an hour to explain Elden Ring or Souls game story and world view. I did not understand the story when I play Souls games. So I do research.
@@Samuel-em5qm I will listen to you and will do my research as well. I might have been too harsh on my first comment - probably because of initial disappointment and higher expectations. So thank you for the hint - I'll try again, and hope it will unravel in a different way.
I don't think you even tried. Most of your gameplay was sneaking and jumping while you get attacked by enemies. While not perfect(no game is perfect), Elden Ring is one of the best games ever made with the one of the best open worlds ever created and it feels like the old school RPGs which you have the freedom to do whatever you like, as GOW the whole game is just linear walk in the park(except the combat which is pretty good). GOW Rangarok is just the same game from 2018 and should have been a DLC in 2019 but it turned out to be a lazy sequel 4 years later. You should change your tittle. Elden Ring is a great game - Unfortunately not for me.
Elden ring can be resume into: "Every build is useless if it isn't mage build, the only dungeons that iw actually fun is hero's grave, the map is giant but it's full of empty spots (almost like true crimes streets of LA), everyone remember of the bosses until someone put dark souls III on the table" It's an average game, not a masterpiece as everyone says
I wish we could get better at understanding the difference between "I don't like this" and "This is bad". The game is objectively good. You may not personally like it, but that doesn't mean it's bad. I suppose it could be waived off as semantics, but it really does generate unnecessary argument. The statement at 5:58 is a myth that was debunked by this very game. The level of approachability absolutely brought in a lot of new players, just like BG3 did with another style of game that was believed to be more niche. Tons of new players were brought in. It's completely understandable and valid to want more direction in a game, but you have to realize the world is bigger than the space between you and the tv/computer screen. I'm a person too, as is every other gamer. There's a very large portion of us who want less direction and more exploration. A true sense of discovery. Some of us want to follow a road and have no idea where it leads. Find a cave hiding behind some trees completely on our own. I know there's an audience that doesn't enjoy gaming without a UI chauffeuring us around, and that's completely fair. Doesn't mean it's bad.
when i played elden ring it really felt like i was playing an incomplete game or doing a playtest the reused bosses were so annoying it just got boring i never got that feeling in dark souls 3 because all bosses were unique AND creative but let's face it elden ring is less worse than totk
Can we compare Tennis World Tour 2 (PC) and Elden Ring (PC)? Impossible, on one there is no story, one the other I internally almost swear to give my best with Zverev when I take him and believe me I give my best in such a case.
This review is hilarious because everything you say is true but FromSoft fans have just accepted is status quo and are afraid to admit how weird it is. Especially the "why is everyone trying to kill me?" Issue. I remember entering the snowfields and getting shot by Albanurics and I was like "Why are you shooting me? I saved Latenna!" But of course if something has a weapon itll just blindly attack you. Also the npc quests are some of the worst designed i have ever seen. You can literally locl yourself out of a quest because you explored too much of the game. Also the game requires literally hundreds of hours of your time for little payoff.
"Graphics don't really do it for me, it's interesting gameplay" How in the world can we say this against a game that wipes the floor with other action rpgs concerning the build variety, character, weapons, items, builds customization, even with ending routes. Analyzing enemy/boss patterns and telegraphed moves rather than button prompts that gives you a cutscene attack. GoW's story, acting, character development is a once in a generation feat, but it's like oranges and apples. One is king of story, another is king of gameplay.
and yet you dididn't really adress the gameplay. the combat is not very deep at all and it's never been in dark souls sekiro was much better and so was nioh
@SwiftBMF the game is too complex for you maybe go play genshin impact lmaoo you probably just stayed in the staring area and kept on trying to fight the first overworld boss
@@slabon6091 well we have dlc and base game. Basicly dlc is every problem with base game multiplied by 10. I hope you know difference between Challenge and difficulty. Because dlc dont have Challenge, it has artifitial difficulty
Whilst I love the Souls series (Elden Ring included), you have my respect for how you approached your critique/review. My only gripe is the title of the video, as it's made to be a definitive statement, rather than a personal take/review. The Souls series are full of lore and story, but it's done a lot more subtle and where players need to seek out the lore (esp. from item descriptions, side quests, environment, etc.) A game like Elden Ring is an example of reward through journey/growth, rather than immediate reward/satisfaction.
Spent >100 hours and just dropped it after understanding that it's me trying to have fun instead of game providing fun to me. Playing Life is Strange 2 right now and it's 1000x more interesting.
i felt the same way when i first played elden ring but i gave it multiple tries and after around 3 tries i fell in love with the game, maybe give it a second chance but if you dont like it thats completely fine everyone has their own taste,
@@classact9144 sounds like you got autism ngl, carry on commenting about others opinions and it will defo get you somewhere. But fr get whatever you have checked out
@@bkzz6822 Loser 😂 go throw your life away at loser games like Elden Ring. You have to force yourself to keep playing a game and then convince yourself you like it otherwise you have no purpose in life 😂😂😂. Just telling you the cold hard truth for your own good.
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The reason why i don't like it at all is thst there is no direction. I have no idea what to do or what it wants me to do, so I'm just dying right away. Barely started it
The first NPC you talk to tells you where you go. And the point of the game is to explore. Not for everyone, but the exploration is the entire point. The beauty is that there's very little direction. Refreshing for many people
That is why i Love BOTW and TOTK. But with this game, the world is boring, the story is not there at all, and the gameplay sucks. The only good thing about this game is the graphics. @@MinecraftMartin
@@nickhirst7192 If graphics were the only good thing about this game, how do you explain the sales outperforming games with better graphics? I think you just personally didn't like the game, and that's totally valid
I found Elden Rings lack of story and cutscenes refreshing. It's hard to get used to, but it's great that it rarely takes control away from you. No 10-20 minute movies every time you get to a new place or person. No BS cluttering up the screen telling you where to go next. It's made it hard for me to play other more story driven games now.
Have you ever thought that the reason the game isn't fun to you is because you never actually played it? Why would you play a game with an obviously long campaign and expect to be hit with everything its got in the first few minutes? To me it sounds like you didn't even explore the world at all, your gameplay also reflects that.
Just checked my steam account. It says I've played it for a total of 10 hours. 10 Hours SINCE LAUNCH Day. So yeah, I think you're right. It's like I haven't even played the game. But that's also ten hours of my life I'll never get back. After 10 hours, though in ANY other game I've liked...I'd be hooked by now. Yeah, you're also right. Barely explored. I don't care enough to. That's a problem. I like video games. Just not this one.
@@PersonalMagnusGames you spent 10 hours playing and you didn't even make it out of the starting zone, that just sounds like a literal skill issue to me, if you maybe put some effort in then it would be fun
You’re right about it not having a God of War type constant in your face story. Which is , to me, refreshing. Constant cut scenes and just holding forward on a stick on 30 mins to move during what essentially is a cut scene I had to play gets old. Elden Ring asks that you figure out the story. It gives you little bits but the rest is up to me to put together through item descriptions and interactions with other npcs. Also, the accuracy with the arrows is t there to make you struggle. It’s there to make you search for another way. FightinCowboy has a walkthrough for ER that will help you figure out how to play it.
Nah bro he quit after dying to Soldier of God, Rick's friend out in the boonies. If he gives up that easily ain't no walkthrough gonna save him now. He's gotta go play God of War on medium difficulty a couple more times before he can learn to overcome adversity lol
Lack of cutscenes gets dull though, so I completely get it. Contrast that with a another game, Metroid Dread, which doesn't stop you for cutscenes all the time but the ones that are there are almost always either really hype or really important.
So you dont like the game cause the devs didnt hold your hand and spell everything out for you? Part of the game is uncovering the story. May not be your kind of thing but it dont mean the game sucks because it dont hold your hand! But to each their own
Great video and I share the same opinion. I got Elden Ring not too long after its release, beat it, got all the achievements and kept playing for more than 500hs. But, man what a pain it was to try to redo my journey after the first time. The game just felt boring, as you said, even before the end of the first journey, but at the second time, I couldn't take it anymore. Tried to use mods to see if it could get some of it's shine back but nothing works. The greatest mistake that makes Elden Ring bad is simply the fact that it went open world. That decision broke the game.
I'd consider myself a souls vereran. I don't claim to be very good but I've platinumed them all with the exception of DS2...and I'm trying to like Elden Ring but I can't. The map is massive, but empty. The story is as vague as ever, and those two things don't gel. You don't have a quest log or anything of the sort, and following the golden path leads you straight towards bosses that you are far too under levelled for. The rewards are awful as well. I fight my way through a dungeon, beat a boss and get maybe a few thousand souls. Not even enough to level up once. There's no way to track which ones you've already beaten, and no incentive to. I've opened up a good chunk of the map but I don't feel like I'm making progress. I've beaten Godrick hours ago, and encountered nothing of note since.
For the title you probably should've stuck with "Elden Ring is boring" or "Why I didn't like Elden Ring" since that keeps things SUBJECTIVE and i can respect that. Now, if you say in your title the game's BAD i'm expecting some OBJECTIVE arguments which is why i clicked on it. Didn't really hear any though. The production quality of the video is really nice btw. Props and good luck.
Thanks a lot! I wrote down some notes on the title. When I spoke on the points on why it's a bad game...it's something I believe, but it is SUBJECTIVE. A bad game can be a good game to someone else. Objective arguments, to your point, were limited, but I can tell you the following that affected me: 1. NPC's AI is robotic. 2. Story is uncovered as you play, which can be interesting, but it requires time. 3. RPG elements and management, though vast, can overwhelm gamers who skip tutorial. 4. Tutorial and time requirements can be too much for some, including me. 5. Large dense world with plenty to do is good, however, without any real linear direction, many side quests can go unresolved. All leading to requirement to INVEST YOUR LIFE into the game. It's great for some, terrible for others. Yeah, it's subjective most of it, but that's a reason why it really appealed to MANY gamers. But not me.
I think we should be able to make that distinction if we're talking about a product's quality. The game's quality is undeniable. Your experience (which was bad) is a whole different matter. But i guess we can agree to disagree. Now: 1. I can see that in some cases. I have thoughts on that so lmk if you're interested in hearing them. But imo i think we're nitpicking here. No game's ai is perfect to my knowledge. 2. The story and world are well constructed. Yes, the narrative is unconventional and that's something that not everyone will wanna adjust to. That's fair. I'll put 3 and 4 together since it all comes down to the same. So i'll ask you. Are the game's mechanics bad because you don't have the time to learn them? Is the game being so vast a bad thing because you don't have the time to put into exploring? Believe me man, time is also something i wish i could put more into videogames but i don't think those points are fair. 5. As for the main quest the game provides enough and even more than fromsoft usually does (i think it wouldn't be a "souls" game if it did more than that). As for the side-quests, if you don't wanna put the time, just ignore them. If you don't like non-linearity that's cool, but we're being subjective again dude. Of course you shouldn't force yourself invest any of your time in something you don't enjoy only because it's popular. More power to you my guy! There's a lot of other awesome games out there and even more coming. Let's enjoy!
Different games for different tastes. I'm more surprised that Elden Ring made it this big despite being a very specific kind of experience. As a fan I'm happy it got this successful, but it does still surprise me considering what sort of games usually sell a lot. This game has very little that sort of appeal.
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I personally just got into elden ring after it being for sale the first time and i gotta say, first i was not sure if i would like it at all bc it’s not like the standard game there is nowadays, where u just get fed everything directly in ur mouth and u pretty much don’t have to think at all, but elden ring did something so right for me, idk if it’s the fact u literally have to build everything u do on ur own, like the equipment ur using or the way of traveling, it just works and another good thing, u don’t have to do certain things, for example the part u were stuck u could just ride through w ur horse or just go the other way and explore other parts until u are strong enough, bc u also can explore pretty much the whole map just from the start of the game. it just depends all on ur own and that’s what has done it for me.
I like that take more than many I’ve seen. So many people don’t get the core essence of Elden Ring. Elden Ring exists to be a bit challenging. Elden Ring was never supposed to hold anyone’s hand, or be easy. It’s for the do it yourself people that have the time and affinity for having meaningful gameplay, not the mindless brain rotting monotony and force fed babying of so many new games. Elden Ring almost stands testament to the breed of gamers that have not turned into an older iPad kid, but instead, are just real, normal people, with a backbone and an actual brain left intact. Elden Ring is of course not for everyone, not everyone is emotionally matured enough to be challenged by anything sadly, blame it on the man
I don't want to play games. I want to be in a project with statistics, data, analyses. I play games after heavy efforts. I want a project where I am explained the functioning of a football ⚽ team for years and in which I plan success.
I'm not saying this to be mean or hateful, but based on what I've seen from your gameplay, you put little to no effort in understanding the game. This game has so much to offer. It has a great art direction, a lot of high quality bosses and enemies to fight, areas to explore, and characters to interact with. You simply haven't interacted with what the game has to offer because you're stuck and haven't made the effort to get unstuck (if you're still stuck at those archers with the giant, get on the horse and book it, don't overthink it lol). This game will test your patience and perseverance (a lot), if you lack those qualities then this game simply isn't for you and your taste. But that doesn't make it a bad game, it just means that it's not suited for your tastes and that's ok. Personally, I think it 100% deserves GOTY. Elden Ring not only met expectations, but exceeded them. One of the biggest releases and turning points in the gaming industry as a whole. I hope you give the game another try with an open mind. There's a reason your friend loves the game so much, don't be afraid to ask him for help. Jolly co-operation has been a thing since Dark Souls 1, you don't have to go alone! Best of luck to you man!
@SwiftBMF there’s plenty of ground loot scattered around the open world. I found it helpful to use the Wiki page to get me going in the right direction
@@not_jca that’s a bad game design right there. if you need a guide it’s lazy design. still it’s matter of taste. i enjoy dog shit ice cream and getting lobotomies, it’s just not for everyone.
@@dmmd8304 It amazes me when people defend this game and then in the next sentence they say go ask a friend or search online lol, completely invalidating their arguement about game design What's even worse, you don't need to farm loot You can get to end game by ignoring the enemies The game design is also fundamentally flawed Putting in over powered bosses at the moment you start the game Why is this redundant Well,. naturally they are huge, so the majority of people are going to ignore them Or if they do engage (once) they will lose and ignore them from that point onwards If they have to go back sometime later, they will beat them if they even care about them after this point You can also manipulate the flawed design of the game, farming an area and resetting it, rinse and repeat It's that idiotic it allows this
@@dmmd8304 Nonsense. You call it lazy because you’re used to modern games holding your hand. This game tosses you in and just lets you figure it out. Old school.
I enjoyed Dark Souls 3 a lot, but I did not like Elden Ring. I played it for about 55 hours, and I like open world RPGs. I have nearly 800 hours in Red Dead Redemption 2 and around 350 hours in Dragon's Dogma: Dark Arisen. Another disappointing game. Guess I'll just go play some Final Fantasy X.
Objectively Elden Ring is one of the best games ever created. It simply has great bosses, weapons, spells, a decent story, and potentially the Best world to explore in fiction. With that said, I understand people might not like the game. But just because you don’t like something, doesn’t mean it’s bad. I might not like steak, but I don’t consider steak to be bad. BTW Elden Ring really isn’t hard. You can one shot every enemy in the entire game.
Expecting a linear, handheld story is why you don’t like this game. Elden ring is not linear in its story and it is unclear but the lore in this game is so dense and detailed most people miss it. The storytelling in this game is unlike most games. Calling the game boring is also the worst thing I’ve heard. I have finished the game at 130 hours and I have loved every moment of it. There’s so much to do and explore and the rewards are satisfying and unique, fighting bosses and learning the moves is challenging but rewarding when it pays off. You clearly have not experienced this game. As for the difficulty- you simply aren’t very good after watching your gameplay. That’s okay, because no one is great when they start out but without trying to get good you can’t judge this game. a) you are spam rolling, which doesn’t work, you need to time your them well. b) you are not locking on to an enemy so your hits are missing For a run-down of why you are being attacked, you are a tarnished, one of many, who’s goal is to collect shards of the Elden Ring to repair it and become Elden Lord. The soldiers who are attacking you are protecting a castle where one of the shards of the ring lies. Please, watch some gameplay or a review of Elden Ring because you obviously do not understand this game.
@Vandole I had no issue finding where to go, if i saw something that looked significant, I would go to it. progressing the main story was fine for me, it was only on the second playthrough that I needed guides for questlines.
If you miss the lore and the story then what’s the point of them being there? The story and the lore is there to be discovered. Elden Ring doesn’t give you none of that. Says, go become Elden Lord and just lets you go. Doesn’t say how, doesn’t say where.
I always thought this All these Dark Souls Type games come with great graphics and these pretentious needlessly finnicky boss fights but otherwise such a barren and actually soulless world Even more empty than most other open world games, no towns, no interesting quests or dialog, extremely weak story the whole void of soul really ruins the atmosphere for me, too they are all super overrated
i am dark souls fun but i hate elden ring it ruins best series ever this trash is like combination of skyrim and world of warcraft with souls difficulty and combat world design is not at all like dark souls
Never played a Fromsoft game, I've tried watching people play them and always thought they looked boring. I gave Elden Ring a shot thinking it would be something different based on the open world and all the hype, but it really was not for me. Didn't like grind, didn't like the storytelling, doesn't even feel like an RPG to me. It's like a mix between a fighting game with all the boss moves I need to memorize and trying to find a build and weapons that can make a dent in them. I saw someone write this and it summarizes my feelings perfectly. "The hardest thing about Elden Ring is finding a reason to give a sh!t." It's the opposite experience I had playing Baldur's Gate 2. It made me want to play it despite it's difficult and unfamiliar gameplay.
I feel this way 💯 god of war was robbed as goty far superior game. Elden ring is just like every other souls game only difference is its open world. I dont get the hype.
I think it works mostly for people who just want to play and not read much text. The developers just forgot to keep reminding you of your objective throughout the whole game. And they should've also kept remind you on why everybody keeps attacking you including human beings.
Bro is nostalgic (oldschool) veteran gamer who is prefer to use his limited time for gaming by watching cutscene in modern game , and get scammed by everybody including his friend, thats a very bold claim.
I've always loved how FS have incooperated players that have quit their games in the lore. Hollowed, the beast blood, and now the tarnished. I guess if I had any advice: finding the story is just as big of a part of the game as finding the cool boss or weapon. Finding that one item description, or area, or dialog with an npc that alleviates your confusion is just as rewarding as beating a hard enemy. The lands between is your story, your journey--and the story you put together IS the narrative you're looking for.
Finding the lore? You mean 1 of the lore Videos of vaati with millions of views. Because nobody cares to find it themselves. Even miyazaki himself said in a podcast that the item description aren't big enough.
I think you may be conflating your overall preference with the wider first-time experience with the games Fromsoftware makes. This title sold incredibly well compared to past entries while still coming away with overwhelmingly positive reviews by people who, by simply working the numbers, had to be first-time players. I think there is just a difference between players who just want to be given the control to go explore and find the story vs those who want it frontloaded to them. If you really want the former to make your actions have meaning, Elden Ring won't really work for you. If you instead want the opportunity to dig through the world for context, Elden Ring does that in ways your other open world examples simply do not do. The video seems to, on some level, acknowledge this given how you relate how others enjoy the game, making your title pretty inflammatory and click baity.
I played the game for the sake just to explore the reasons why it became the Game of the Year. I'm having fun, by the way, it's enjoyable in many ways, but IT'S NOT GAME OF THE YEAR MATERIAL FOR PLENTY OF REASONS. The story narration, the lore, the character backgrounds, the skills, weapons, armor, and plenty of aspects lack the explanation for gamers new to the genre to understand. Yes, he is correct, besides the GIT GUD aspect, the entire game lacks the motivation, like what's next after beating a boss??? There's no sense of direction at all, like you get lost midway playing, even if you follow the site of grace directions. You need to watch TH-cam tutorials to get directions and tips to make little improvements. It's comparison in God of War: Ragnarok and Horizon: Forbidden West
@@PersonalMagnusGames I'm trying my best playing the game to fully understand its entire concept of being an open-world soulsborne game, I'm trying so hard like I'm dragging myself to "Git Gud" a term soulsborne gatekeepers tell those who are frustrated playing the game. Right now, I don't have a clear direction what to do next and who to kill compared to the open-world games that I'm used to.
@@glendalerosal3198 If you talk to Gideon Ofnir at the Round Table, he will give you direction for much of the game. Otherwise, the intention is for players to follow their own curiosity. Major landmarks are visible from a long way across the map. For me and for many others, that's enough. I see the castle on the hilltop, I want to visit it and and fight the boss.
@@glendalerosal3198 well yes because you weren't talking to NPCs in the hub area. Just talk to NPCs more. As I say, you are supposed to be guided by your own curiosity. Nepheli also encourages you to speak to him once she is at the Round Table. It's not the game's fault that you didn't bother talking to NPCs it put in your path.
I honestly think is an over hyped game and a step back from what FS has achieved with Sekiro, Bloodborne and even the OG dark souls. The open world is barren, mostly empty fields with monsters walking around without coherence or reason. The type of stuff you'd expect from a unity asset flip game from Steam discount bin. The non-story dungeons are short. The bosses are spongy and often have cheap attacks that will hit you. Not to mention, tons of recycled bosses. I honestly don't understand why they even called GRRM for this one. From my understanding he wrote the lore and characters but Miyazaki and Co. twisted it to become just another dark souls weird shit story. The narrative is a massive step down from Sekiro, the first FS game with a coherent story and engaging narrative.
The game isn't enjoyable not because of the difficulty or the challenge. Some bosses are interesting to fight, some just frustrating However, it all lacks finesse. It feels clunky and outdated. That's it's biggest issues, like a game a decade ago
Game is not a good game. You just don’t have good taste. Big difference man. See how you can flip your own logic right back on itself? It’s all opinion based. And let’s be completely honest. I’ve put over 200 hours into the game, and it in no way on God’s green earth deserves 10/10 ratings or a 97 on metacritic. It has SO many issues that a game made in 2022 just shouldn’t have. But y’all give it a free pass cuz “It’S fRoMsOfT aNd It LoOkS pReTtY!”. It’s pathetic how much y’all have simped for and hyped this game up. Every reason people give for this game being game of the year, Legend of Zelda BotW did 5 years prior, it just had literally no competition in the game awards. Just stop overhyping this blatantly mediocre and lackluster game and people won’t feel so inclined to rightfully and justifiably knock it off it’s pedestal.
Jeez R-Type, haven't thought of that in a while. Yeah that game was awesome :) And yes I can totally understand someone finding Elden Ring boring. And don't let anybody tell you that "This is waht FromSoft games are like, you just don't get it, you're supposed to discover the story on your own". That's fanboy bullshit. Dark Souls 1 CLEARLY communicated the story and why the world is the way it is and what you're supposed to do. NPCs quite specifically told you what you need to do and in what order and why. Anybody claiming otherwise is simply lying. Elden Ring has been repeatedly critisized even by FromSoft fans who played all their games, for having the most cryptic and uninteresting story with the least clear motivation as the player character. So you are NOT alone with that, don't let the downvotes give you that impression. This game can only be enjoyed to the fullest if you enjoy the exploration and gameplay enough to ignore the fact that it basically has no real story. It has world building sure, but the story is almost non existend. And JRR Martin has clearly stated repeatedly that his only involvement was exactly in that: the world building. He didn't write the story of the game, he wrote the BACKSTORY of the game, he wrote what happened thousands of years before the game starts. He had nothing to do with what takes place while you're playing. He created the lore, not the plot. And I can understand that some people who enjoy open world games find Elden Ring empty and boring. There is no actual life happening, everything is just a combat area, everything is there to be killed. THere's nothing in the game but enemies and the occasional NPC, which thanks to the huge Open World, is usually missed by players (which is why they had to add map markers later in a patch, which is ironic because Souls fanboys shouted at people like you claiming their games don't need map markers because they have superior quest design). Souls games don't offer anything but combat with very very little to get the player used to this combat. If you don't enjoy a world that has nothing to offer but targets to be killed, then indeed Elden RIng is not interesting at all. And I disagree with the fanboys that this is simply the souls formula. Jedi Fallen Order has exactly the same game mechanics. You go through levels, you have hard to master combat and you kill stuff and progress in between these checkpoints. If you die, you need to get back to where you were to re-claim your XP. Exactly the same formula. HOwever that game combined it with much better combat balancing, with much better bosses that instead of doing stupid delay attacks or roll catches actually tested the skills learned against regular enemies. Still hard and difficult to master, but way more consistent, intersting and ... motivating, because there was an actual story behind WHY you were fighting the boss. And omg... it even has a difficulty setting that makes parry times easier for people that don't have 3 hours evey day to play games and train against a single boss 40 times in a row. And omg it doesn't break the game at all, who would have thought. FromSoft fans really need to get over themselves and accept that while FromSoft has contributed some fantastic things to game design, their games are far from perfect and have a lot of mechanics that are completely outdated and clunky by today's standards, and could do a much better job at creating a compelling storyline for players for who simply killing things for 80 hours just isn't enough to stay invested. If you DO want to get back into the game, you really need to play it for the world exploration, for finding new areas and new enemies. THe world can be beautiful and has lots of cool areas to discover that are hidden. But you just need to be able to get over the absence of much of any story and the fact that EVERYTHING on the map aside from the very very very few NPCs that you will run into, will try to kill you. You need to enjoy the combat system and invest a bit of time to learn it. Elden RIng has mechanics that can make things easier for you. But if you simply cannot get into an action RPG that offers you little in terms of story and motivation (and don't let fanboys argue this point, this game simply doesn't have much of a story and even the better quests are super easy to mess up and not well presented at all) then I doubt the game will ever draw you in. This game's fun part lies in exploring the map for the map itself, not for what's in it, and for engaging combat. And I agree, that this is probably not enough for a lot of people. THe bosses are also frustratingly hard unless you have the time to invest, or the build to cheese them, so it's likely you'll get stuck on some bosses for a long time, and without a proper story as to why you're even fighting them, that can quickly drain your motivation. In my experience there's different types of RPG playes. There's people who want a blank character and just explore a world, like Skyrim, and even ignore the main story. Then there's people who don't care much about character builds and prefer an established character that they can take over and enjoy a beautifully crafted story, like Witcher 3, and then there's the dungeon crawlers that want a simple but fun combat system and just explore dungeons, kills tons of stuff with impressive effects and get tons of loot, like the Diablo series, and then there's people who want to craft a build and test it against a challenging combat system that throws more and more challenges at you in beautifully crafted levels that however don't offer much else aside from that combat.. that's the souls games and Elden Ring. And there is absolutely nothing wrong with not having fun with Elden Ring, I for example have zero fun playing Diablo type games. I don't see the point in them, nor did I ever understand what's supposed to be fun about Skyrim. I enjoy a good story too, so Witcher or Mass Effect are more my thing, and while I did enjoy Elden Ring, the difficulty also got too frustrating at times and felt like the game didn't respect my time, so I stopped for a while and later finished the game with a build better suited to cheesing some bosses because I am also too old and busy to be bothered to spend hours on a single boss anymore. Not my kind of fun either, not anymore. I'm no teenager anymore that can spend his entire day playing games, just like you.
Here's my two cents and why I like Elden Ring and why I still play it today. -Build variety and customization -Encourages thinking outside of the box to solve problems -Encourages planning and improvisation -Vast exploration (I'm still finding things in the game) You seem pretty set on stone for the game not being for you and that's fine, games aren't for everybody. Even games that are accessible and less punishing don't appeal to certain people. But I like Elden Ring's combat where you have to learn proper spacing, timing, and resource management. I like how the game doesn't hold your hand and expects you to figure things out on your own, not many games let me fail and learn to improve. I like how my immersion isn't broken by npcs screaming in my ear telling me to hit a boss' weak point or to use a special gadget for something I've done multiple times in the game. I like how every encounter is a puzzle that I need to solve on my own given the resources I have available. The biggest thing I like about Elden Ring is the fact that I don't have to pay microtransactions. I'm not shoved into a cash shop for skins, booster packs, unlockables, etc. I'm not hounded by a weekly battlepass with limited exclusive content that disappears after a month. Although Elden Ring can take time to learn, it doesn't force you to play it. You get to play it, learn, and improve at your own pace. You're not forced to go back into it for fear of losing out on a special event. But I'm already invested in the game and I have been invested in souls likes for a decade. I'm not going to convince you or anyone else, If anything some people will say that I'm just coping or that I'm too deep in the soulslike hole. But objectively speaking, I love these games because every problem they show you, every frustrating mechanic, has a solution. You just have to find it.
The game is polarizing for everything it does right there’s something that someone else could point to and say it does wrong. It’s praised very heavily by the new generation but I think older gamers see its flaws more than the younger gamers because this isn’t our first “Skyrim” or “Morrowwind” like experience. Which fair enough if this is the first game you’ve played that’s like Elder Scrolls you’d think it was a masterpiece the way I thought Elder Scrolls games were masterpieces.
Why didn't you use your horse to get past that area you were stuck at? Game forces you to think smartly about enemy layout and optimize approach Also I would like to have heard your alternatives to Elden Ring so audience see what better options are present
I don't know why I didn't think smartly about enemy layout or anything. I just played and died, a lot! Which is fine. That's not what turned me away. I don't think I could give alternatives to this, because I don't exactly play these type of games a lot, personally, due to time. Like I mentioned "Spider-Man: Miles Morales" a lot in this video, not to compare, but to just give an example of a game I like. Thanks for the comment!
GoT is the complete game I love and how it should be combat wise, style wise etc So when I played Elden ring, the combat was completely off putting It feels awkward, clunky and generally unsatisfactory Then when I just want to do some missions, i am told next to nothing on the next point. So they are just forgotten about entirely I believe that people like this game is purely for the bosses and challenge Everything else is just window dressing and lacks basic design from combat to exploration If this was not open world and just a linear experience, it would suit that design far greater
While I dont think the game is bad I personally dont like it and Id rather play almost any other fromsoft game tbh. Elden ring's world is massive but its massive for the sake of it and its filled with literally nothing to do but explore and kill fodder mobs hoping for boss encounters. Other open world games incentivize you to explore while also giving you things to actually do. Theres not many side quests in elden ring and most of the ones you can do only take a few minutes max, and by the way theres no way to keep track of what quests you've started which for a game this massive is a huge negative imo. Ranni's is the only notable one worth mentioning anyways. Any OTHER GAME ON THE PLANET would be criticized if it had a massive open world where the main focus is just farming enemies and exploring but Elden ring not only gets a pass but it receives praise because it is a FS game. You spend 90% of your time riding around on torrent doing literally nothing other than going to areas solely because they look cool, and then that area has nothing to do in it outside of maybe 1 or 2 boss fights that have been copy pasted and maybe a copy pasted dungeon. Its cool and great the first time around, on the second playthrough it's boring as hell, because you've already explored these areas, there's no reason to go back. At least in games like Oblivion for example, I have a reason to do something optional again because its fun, the Whodunit quest from the dark brother hood is a good example, I did the dark brotherhood storyline like 10 times solely because of how fucking fun that quest is. Elden Ring's areas dont have that beyond a first playthrough unless you maybe enjoyed a boss fight there. Theres no reason to backtrack to most areas, Caelid is a perfect example of this as there is literally no reason for that place to even exist from a story progression standpoint outside of needing half of one of the seals to activate a lift unless you want to fight Radahn or encounter Malenia's daughter (cant be bothered to remember her name) both of which are optional as you dont even have to fight Radahn assuming you encounter Rennala first (which most people probably will on their first playthroughs) so on a second playthrough youll spend 5 - 10 minutes in Caelid to retrieve this seal and then never go back. The bosses in this game are a huge let down 160+ bosses but only 11 encounters are actually unique? Are you fucking kidding me? Fromsoft even used the boss count to help promote the game but 150ish bosses are just copy pastes. Rykard, Rennalla, Radahn, Malenia, Gideon Ofnir, Radagon, Elden beast, Placidusaxx, Lanseaxx, Fire Giant, Maliketh. Thats it. Those are your 1 of a kind encounters. I wasnt expecting 160+ unique bosses but 11 unique boss fights is pathetically low. By the way, 5 of those bosses are completely optional. So theres only 6 unique bosses you actually have to fight in this game. The endgame scaling is the worst scaling ive ever seen in a video game, mountaintop of the giants outscales every other area of the game so hard its not even funny. Dumpstats in any rpg (Elden ring is labeled as an rpg idgaf what anyone says, it is an rpg and has multiple elements of one) would be considered objectively bad because it's forcing you to put levels into a stat you may not want or need for a build but in ER if you enjoy not getting 1 shotted by fodder come MoTG you better have 50 vigor bare minimum. No other game would get a pass for this but Elden ring does because Fromsoft fanboys are incapable of calling out criticisms in their favorite games (so every new soulsborne game) I put 100 hours into elden ring and for the first 50 I enjoyed it, the last 50 was me forcing myself to continue enjoying it and the more i forced myself to play it the more I realised i actively disliked the game. I wouldnt even consider this to be one of the best Fromsoft games let alone one of the best game's ever made. If you like this game and you're chill about it then cool, I dont have problems with anyone who likes Elden Ring outside of the people who suck it off so hard they cant stop to actually criticize the game. The game has a LOT of flaws and for me thats mostly with the lack of things to do while exploring, the atrocious amount of copy pasted boss fights, and the terrible endgame scaling. For me, Ill stick with Ds3, Bloodborne, Sekiro, and Ds1
You could have probably just said it’s not for you. There isn’t really any insight in this. I also think you’re objectively wrong saying that God of War has you more involved in the story, since you have zero involvement in that story. It’s basically a movie that you watch, with you pushing buttons that advance the script. It’s a great story, but you are not able to be involved in it. Elden Ring’s story though, is completely your story. And it is an immensely deep and rich story. You control every aspect of the story. You are also told fairly early on why you’re being attacked. You’re an immortal Tarnished who holds the fate of The Lands Between. You’re success likely spells the doom for everyone else. You’re also objectively wrong calling the game ridiculously hard, when it’s just reasonably hard. There isn’t a single person who isn’t capable of beating this game. It’s just a game that doesn’t give you anything. If you want to beat some guys shooting arrows at you, you have to earn it. It’s very reasonable for you to figure out how to beat the Troll surrounded by archers, without taking a single hit, without any sort of guidance by the game. You just try something different after you die, and get sent back to a Site of Grace just steps away from where you previously failed. With enough attempts, literally anyone can figure out how to not only overcome that challenge, but make it look easy. If this sounds harsh, it’s not me actually judging you. The first time I played Dark Souls, I had the exact same reaction you have with Elden Ring. I quit after about a half an hour, and didn’t come back for months. When I finally did, after encouragement from some friends, I went in with a dedication to at least get past the first boss after the tutorial section. It took me hours to do it, but when I finally did, I beat the Taurus Demon without taking a single hit. By the time I got past the second bosses most people face, things starting clicking, and I grew the confidence that I could beat everything the game threw at me, as long as I didn’t give up. Beating that game, is the only time I’ve ever felt actually rewarded from playing a video game. I felt like I actually achieved something meaningful, and learned a lesson that might actually be viable outside of just gaming. I know this sounds really corny and exaggerated, but thousands of people have had this same experience as me, and can tell similar stories. I don’t personally think Elden Ring captures this as much as plying Dark Souls for the first time does, but it does have a lot of the same merit. Mostly being, that there isn’t a single challenge in that game, or single bit of story in the game, that you can’t overcome and discover based on your own efforts, and not from the game simply giving it to you. When you beat a boss, it’s because you became good enough to beat the boss. When you learn more of your story, it’s because you discovered the story. This is one of the only types of games where you can truly make it yours. If that doesn’t sound like something you’d enjoy, that’s perfectly fine. I do think you should discover what the game actually is, before calling it bad though, and I think you should reconsider how you’re playing the game, and try to persevere, because you may end up with an experience unlike anything you’ve ever had before. I wish there was a way I could play Dark Souls for the first time again, or play and beat Elden Ring as a first time Souls game. I’d love to know what that’s like.
Elden Ring does not have a rich story, it has no story at all ... the movies that you talk about are what a narrated story is like. That there is some background lore and environmental storytelling does not make it habe this deep and rich story you claim. And I got all 3 main endings. You could just play the game with your personality void of a character, get to Elden Beast and you would know nothing. That there is a bit of background like with Ranni, the stars, Godwyn, etc. does not give it a game with storytelling. Good RPGs have narrated story, environmental storytelling and lore. Not just one or two of them. 150 hours do not lie. Elden Ring having story is like saying Pokemon Red has a story. If one likes running around and exploring, sure. But claiming it is more than it is is ridiculous.
Can we all understand that a good game and a game you dont like are two different things. Busby 3d is a bad game. Elden ring is a game that you dont like which is fine but lets not go around telling people a critically acclaimed game is a bad product when most of the playerbase consider it a good game.
While I don't think it is a bad game, you can think a commonly praised thing is bad if you want. It might not make a lot of sense, but there is nothing wrong with that.
Elden ring is absolutely trash, especially for a PC with its crappy controls. Also, for a game to demand such intellectual investment is an overkill and a waste of time. Why would I invest so much time in learning small things to get better at a game that I will stop playing in a short period and switch to something else?.Its supposed to be a game not a career
You have a really shallow take on video games and I'm going to be honest, but all your nitpicks about the game are really self centered. If you're a busy adult and don't have time for a very difficult 120+ hour game then that's on you not on Elden Ring.
As a huuuge fan of the Dark Souls series, I totally understand where you're coming from. Honestly, I got Elden Ring when it first came out, but I couldn't get into it until just now basically for the same reasons you complained about. I feel like it threw me into this vastly complex new universe, almost parallel to the Dark Souls universe but with everything complicated further, with new lore to learn and tons of new factions and new mechanics and just so much more to learn. My biggest issue was that I just didn't understand the motivation of my character, or the driving force of the conflict, or literally anything else that was happening in the game, it all felt so overwhelming and of course the game does little to explain literally anything to you. I was curious, yes, but I felt like I was missing so much context for the way this world worked that I just became disinterested. You could argue that Dark Souls is similar, but compared to Elden Ring, the concepts that drive Dark Souls are far more simpler and less convoluted, therefore easier to grasp. I've since given it another shot because I'm a sucker for experiencing the beautiful and atmospheric worlds that FromSoftware makes, and I'm having fun with it, although admittedly I'm still pretty unsure as to the "why"s of the game still. There are just so many high concepts the game throws at you. I do gain a bit of purpose from interacting with actual well written NPCs, but those interactions and the vague sense of purpose they give still leave a lot to be desired.
Dark Souls 1 actually explained its story to the player and had NPCs literally telling you what you need to do and why. The more toxic fromsoft crowd may claim "oh that would be handholding, you casual" yet completely ignore that this is exactly what Dark Souls 1 did. Elden Rings open world simply works as a disadvantage in that regard and it's story telling is vastly inferior to previous titles and its NPC interactions and quests have been outdated for decades. They can absolutely keep a story that needs to be discovered but nobody can tell me that it's necessary to repeatedly klick on a "talk" interaction to exhaust the dialog with an NPC. That's not necessary that's just lazy design and not appropriate anymore for 2023. And it is indeed an obstacle for new players to get invested. If the story and world and lore was presented better and not hidden in item descriptions in a badly designed UI (which is a HUGELY lazy way to do it, no matter what the fromsoft fanboys say), more people would be able to enjoy Elden RIng. But even then you can argue that having a world that has nothing but stuff to kill in it and nothing else to find... is pushing the limits for some people as well. In Dark Souls the empy world that has nothing but hollows in it was kind of part of the story itself. That's what made sense in that world. But in Elden RIng it feels out of place and isn't explained at all. And to be honest, this style of "dead world, go kill everything and fullfill some ancient prophecy" is also getting old by now. It's not exactly innovative to do the same thing in every game. Sekiro had a story and a completely different feel, and Bloodborne tried a different setting and playstyle. If anything Elden Ring is the LEAST innovative title from FromSoft in recent history.
I'll preface my comment by saying I don't hate Elden Ring and I did an entire playthrough of the base game (I'm not going back and playing the DLC, I have real life stuff going on, and if I'm going to sink time into a game, it's going to be Siege as I'm trying to hit Diamond again). To enjoy Elden Ring, or any "Souls-like" game, you have to really want to play it and be invested into it (which I am not). It's not CoD where you can jump in, be halfway decent at FPS games, and go positive. It's like the developmentally disabled cousin of high skill gap MP games, where you don't react to actual people, it's artificially difficult bosses that were created to pad game-time (I mean that in the best way possible, I understand it's the draw of the game). If I'm going to get good at something, I want to know I'm beating other people or I'm working towards an achievement (like a rank in Siege or CS:GO) that means I took the time to get really damn good at a game, not just... roll... roll... strike at weak point. It doesn't mean Elden Ring or other Soulslikes are bad games, they just aren't for me. I enjoyed my playthrough a decent amount but at the end it was just "alright, back to Siege".
Most, if not all of your comments, are based on your uninformed opinions and not in the reality of what Elden Ring is. Not taking the time to read the extensive lore presented in the game, or learning how to dodge or parry effectively, or even advancing enough to get out of the "starter area" does not give your opinion any credibility. There are many very detailed questlines throughout the game that increase the total immersion experience. You can be sure none of them involve killing x number of monsters, or gathering x number of ingredients. You'll have to do some thinking and take the time to immerse yourself in the experience. There are tons of youtube tutorials that can bring you up to speed fairly quickly. Since this isn't really a game style you're comfortable with, maybe spend a little time to understand it before you commit to an uninformed opinion. When you face an obstacle in real life, do you immediately throw your hands up in the air and give up, or do you educate yourself and "get gud" before throwing your opinions out into the internet? If all else fails, go back to your Nintendo games and have everything spoon fed to you. PS - you can turn off the messages. They're just a distration at best. PPS - Your clip of you panic rolling around the archers and the giant really emphasize just how little you understand the combat mechanics. Archers are actually pretty easy to dodge most of the time. PPS - If an enemy seems unbeatable, it probably means you're not leveled or skilled enough to handle it yet. Get some levels under your belt, learn how to use your chosen weapon better, and try it again later.
Nba 2k20 (PS4) with game speed lowered to around 55% is one of the best games I have ever played and I stopped playing it only because PS4 was given back to my brother.
can't stand soulsborne bullshit myself. Elden Ring is easily the most overrated game of all time up there with the new zelda titles. Empty, heartless games.
finally found another video where someone actually identifies er as the bad game it is that isn't just pretending to with the title and the entire video until they end with "it's actually still the best/my favorite game ever made guys" and i can tell this before having watched your video based off the dislike ratio , the fans are en mass to downvote while never (from what i see in the comments) offering a comprehensive defense of why er isn't bad.....
Never listen those saying Tennis World Tour 2 (PC) is not good. They lie. They judge quick. In Tennis World Tennis 2, one of the camera angles makes the game insane. Then when you higher crowd volume and players voice guess what happens. It's a phenomenal games with a phenomenal physic.
I mean not having any experience with how souls games function will 9 times out of 10 set you up to have this take on the game if story is important to you. There really isn't one and what's there is just wishy washy and vague like its always been
Skill issue than you say "just skip the enemies" So what's the point? The game is based around avoiding or finding a way to overide a clunky mechanic. Rolly polly simulator is not my thing Each boss has 2 Maybe 3 mechanics. In which every one of them is avoided by rolling. If you're not rolling, you're exploiting the game. It's that simple. I played for a solid 20 hours, and I found 0 interesting items, discoveries or lore. Just goofy looking random bosses aimlessly walking around, waiting for a 20 minute rolling simulator. Spend insane amount of time rolling attacks, or cheese it.
@@frankgallagur2045nah Frank and again a you problem. And could you please tell me what you did in these 20 hours of gameplay. And what is considered „interesting“ in your opinion. From what I read. I’m pretty sure you played the game the same way how this fool in the video did. And calling it a rolling simulator just tells me that you didn’t get a grasp how versatile and interesting the game actually is, because you was too involved panic-rolling into random minibosses. The dodge mechanic is fundamentally in this whole genre and that’s why it is loved ,because it actually takes skill to perfectly time the role into the enemy and to learn its mechanics and patterns so you don’t get hit. That doesn’t take away the build variety tho. And no you don’t have to kill every soldier, rat or hillbilly in this game. They’re there to fill the game but aren’t necessarily important. But every enemy and character got a lore which makes is, again extremely filled and interesting.
I’m glad to see someone share a similar experience. I got in when the dlc hype came around and was disappointed when I played through the game. The only joy I felt playing the game was getting to the next boss, so I could finish the game faster. The world didn’t seem interesting to me and the combat seemed basic to me. Obviously, people love this game and praise it as a masterpiece, so the game must be a good game overall if the majority love it. But I just don’t see the appeal. For me, it’s a hard game to recommend and had me wanting the game to be over as soon as possible.
But dude, you didn’t even get a chance to play through the repetitive dungeons and kill all the re-used bosses..
You do realise elden ring is a giant game did you really expect every dungeon and boss to be completely unique there’s loads of them
@@TheSophisticatedAxolotl get lost fanboy go play dark souls 3 instead of that "game"
@@TheSophisticatedAxolotlYou do realize the game size is decided by the developers and not a rule of the universe, right? It doesn't have to be that giant.
@@monkeygameplay5455yet you can’t think of a single argument
@@pascalsimioli6777 yes they made a huge game which they filled with useful items but they didn’t have enough time to make a unique boss for every single dungeon so there forced to repeat them
It's a game i personally have zero interest in, but it's hard to be a gamer online and not be aware of the acclaim so this will be an interesting video. Enjoy the completely neutral, no experience perspective from me lol
Thank you! I felt our voices needed to be out there too.
It's mainly souls fanboys
Man, looking at this comment section compared to Quantum TVs review just shows how important it is to be kind and understanding that the game isn't for you unfortunately
Yeah, i admit shit on a fromsoft game the community will chew you up and spit you out. But this guy came in with an open mind and did try but this was his first souls game and this is kind of something to expect from those who haven't touched this genre before but he tried his best and he was fair, and the fact he hasn't touched a souls game before he had no clue what to expect and a fromsoft game isn't the easiest to get into.
@@destinblake5566 Having played every other Fromsoft game, Elden Ring is an absolute mess.
The bosses are recycled incredibly often, especially frustrating when one of the games selling points were over 100 bosses.
The gameplay is just terrible, straight up. Your character is slow and weak, unless you get rivers of blood!
When most gameplay guides literally just tell you to respec to RoB to beat difficult bosses, that should tell you something..
The bosses are way too fast, the camera is STILL HORRIBLE. Lockon is basically non functional on several bosses.
Once I got to Fire Giant I quit playing. Absolute slog to try to fight it. Absurd health pools.
Notably also Torrent was HORRIDLY designed. Horse combat is incredibly terrible! No I Frames, even jump dodge is very inconsistent and has few visual indicators as to when it will work.
Fromsoft clearly put a lot more work into worldbuilding than anything else.
@@coolkid9967 Well said wish they did less bosses and smaller world and focused on quality over quantity I love bloodborne for the minimalist design atmosphere and story I even like Elden ring but people acting like it's the best game ever made is comedic to me hell ER wouldn't exist without dark souls and demon's souls which are incredible games and if you only played ER I strongly encourage going to other games in the series Except 2 lol Hot take I'd argue Elden Ring has similar design to ds2 than any other game boss wise but ER's world looks nice still prefer BB though and if you played ER and like the gameplay try out ds3 literally identical besides jumping and a few other thing more compact world and some of the best bosses.
If only the makers were kind and added a difficulty setting to make it more accessible. I managed to get to level 45 by farming but not far on the map. And after all this time, still i can’t get a parry or dodge timed right more than about 1 in 10 goes (ie im dead) In bloodbourne i could do it about 50%. This week is a terribly inaccessible game as noted by the posts and on various websites with super basic question like ‘how do i equip arrows’. It does not explain things anywhere near enough for people who arent hugely into these games and the lack of pause button is the inexcusable when playing offline.
You only have to say that because fanboys can’t handle criticism. They don’t even know what it is.
What got me into Elden Ring was finishing the Dark Souls trilogy.
Played Dark Souls a decade before Elden Ring. Loved the games and Elden Ring was supposed to be the next big thing.
Elden Ring was probably the biggest disappointment and overrated game in the entire Souls collection. It went open world just for the sake of going open world when that trend has been tired since 2015.
The game indicates where to go but when you go there you get destroyed by the boss. So then you explore around to level up(GRIND, let's call it what it is). And the other bosses you find in the very first area(Limgrave) are gank fights.
BOTH of them. There is no content in the open world. It's just a lot of empty space wher eyou collect flowers.
The entire game I felt like I was underleveled or overleveled. I never once felt like I was going the right direction. There are no quest logs to keep track of other quests.
Elden Ring commits insane sins that other games would be trashed for.
Unfortunately these games have garnered a fanbase of people that base their entire personality on beating these games and instead of calling out its faults, the majority will say "git gud" because it reinforces their own ego the same way beating a hard game does(Or a game that has a reputation for being hard).
From Software has been using the same formula since 2009 and their fanbase never calls them out on it but the moment Rockstar or Bethesda use the same formula for their games, From Software fans come running to tell everyone that developers are not innovative and just recycle the same crap while going back to Elden Ring which is literally just open world Dark Souls which is literally just Demon's Souls.
Elden Ring is not a bad game but it's far from a 10/10.
I still like the Souls games but as long as the fanbase lets Miyazaki/FromSoft get away with never improving actual issues with the games(Input Reading, Stun locks, Mob spam), we'll just keep getting more of it.
Elden Ring is one the weaker titles for me. It's on par with Dark Souls II I would say.
Yes, I have finished the game for anyone getting ready to type something dumb like "git gud". I stand by everything I said.
This review of the game is absolutely fair because they are the same problems I had when playing it. By the end of the game I was so tired of everything I just wanted to finish it so I could stop playing the game.
For me it's weaker than even DS2. The unfleshed-out open world & repetitive content, bad npc quests, and unsatisfying end-game bosses sour the experience by mid-to-end game. For eg. Malenia was hard, but not fun. I took less time to beat her than Isshin in Sekiro, because I ganked her using Mimic Tear to zero health before she could use her bs Waterfowl move. But I had far more fun with Isshin.
@@MadaraUchiha-iu3ld I mean I'm not gonna lie, I was more satisfied with my first playthrough of Dark Souls II than I was with Elden Ring. Elden Ring just seems like it was designed around wasting the player's time.
Mass respect Eddie, I feel pretty much the same way about the game, as soon as the honey moon period goes away the game falls down quick
Compared to even DS2 I feel like is worse, prettier yes, more polished maybe, longer definitely, more contet maybe (quantity over quality) but the main issue is that Miyazaki keeps wanting to one up every game and doesn't know when to stop, it doesn't help the fact that he has a pretty big part of the fanbase boot licking him 24/7 so he actually believes every decision he makes is good, the games have grown stale and they dont know what to do and this is the culmination of all that, anything innovative in bloodborne and sekiro was thrown out in favor of the same safe and boring style that does not work well with a wolrd this big and repetitive and much less with the bosses in this game.
I went into this game thinking I'd get darksouls 3 + Bloodborne + Sekiro but with a big world filled with dungeons and memorable bosses and I got nerfed DS3 rolls, a combat that punishes you for being aggressive, a big map with recycled content left and right and bosses that attack faster than sekiro bosses but also do 15 second long strings of attacks and give you 2 or 3 seconds to retaliate but not without sucker punching you while you do so.
Bloodborne is the best from soft game imo. Don’t like ER either. Kinda boring.
I fell for it too... I really regret spending $ on this game. I really tried to "find" the fun but it just wasn't there. The world felt empty and dead and just wasn't fun at all. The music was meh and everything just felt so fake and plastic. IMO the game is very poorly made. I think channels must be paid to say good things about it honestly. It just seems like something for fanboys to play and brag about online. There's no real substance to speak of.
Elden Ring benefited from it being a meme challenge game. After its announcement trailer, the concept of Souls games being the hardest games caught fire, so when the game came out, the reviewers hyped it even more for its difficulty. Prior to this game reviews panned games for being too difficult, by using phrases like "Trial and Error". Sekiro had a better story and better combat system, but didn't have the "Right of passage" meme behind it like Elden Ring. My vote for hardest modern game goes to Ninja Gaiden Black.
Hardest game is battle toads.
Ninja Gaiden 2 is up there too, the original from 2008 not sigma
Omg yes, ninja gaiden black is where its at
I tried to get into the game but I just found it so boring.
same game is so overrated same with bg3 but bg3 later became interesting and i love bg3 now but elden ring was useless for me i even had a nightmare about giants even tho they never killed me and no parry or dodge animaiton is retarded point of gameplay is space space space space space left click space space left click space space space space space left click ….
Same, nothing motivated me. Slow and boring combat, no story to care about, no world interactivity. Looks nice and interesting setting but that’s all I can say.
@@lolplays8279elden ring is not made for normal people
@@galacticmaui2it has a big fucking lore and you say no story ?
@@mymycute838 it has story but its not wow and game is for everyone if i beaten it everyone can
The only thing that hooked me into Elden Ring was experimenting different builds but I was actually annoyed by the game and its fan base. The game is just so bad and no one can tell me otherwise because I had 200 hours of playtime. I must admit, I got addicted, but the more I play, the more I see how bad the game is.
How is the game bad provide an example for me
-Horribly bad camera.
-One shot mechanics.
-Repetitive ennemies.
-Being constantly staggered.
-Most enemies don't flinch when you hit them.
-Enemy reach.
-Many enemies are "bullet sponge" juggernauts.
-Main character potato movement.
-Grindfest.
-The obvious mind tactics consisting in frustrating the player pushing him to grind, then the sunk cost fallacy is implanted.
Once it's there, players will say anything to justify living an awful experience.
@@Damesanglante did you get stuck on Marget 🤣🤣🤣
@@piklepower examples provided and you got nothing...
@@schmietwechdeschiet4340 OK I don’t see why people hate the game. The camera is good it is literally just a standard camera. There are one shot mechanics late in the game that only four enemies have enemies are repetitive at some points, but it makes sense. Why would they add a new character for every enemy, if you’re constantly staggered, you have the low poise and need to wear stronger armor. Every enemy is not going to get immediately staggered when you hit them once enemy reach is not a problem if you know how to dodge if you don’t upgrade your weapons yes, everything is bullet sponge but if you upgrade your weapons, then no I don’t know what potato movement means so we’re gonna skip that. I find the movement in the game fine I don’t feel it’s a grind first personally definitely the least grinding out of all the soulsgame’s. It’s an open world game meaning you have to go find stuff you don’t even have to beat the first boss. You could use the side castle gate to get around Stormville and go get stuff from Leonia if you want, the main thing is that the game isn’t bad the people who played are bad if you don’t wanna spend an hour exploring then yeah you’re not gonna get far and if you ram your head against one boss for the entire game, then probably not gonna have fun it’s open world you’re supposed to explore and get stronger not beat your head against the wall
I totally get where you're coming from. I'm a huge elden ring fan, but I see where you are coming from. Let's not underestimate the power of TASTE. It's the most important reason why you'll ever get into anything. You simply don't have a taste for this type of game. And that's very ok. However, it's not a bad game because it's not to your taste. God of war is not to my taste (at all), but I still think it could have been game of the year. It's one of the most impressive games I've ever seen, it's just not for me. I try to be objective and not let my feelings make me generalise on things (which is quite difficult to do by the way). Where I do see where you're coming from, it's not a bad game at all. It's a masterpiece in art and gameplay. Just not to your taste...
Exactly. I guess it was important to me to let out the fact that, I felt left out, especially when everyone spoke a lot about how awesome it is....and I"m like......not into it, and unable to relate. I DO wish I liked it.
I think golf is boring. Golf is a bad game.
@@troyberber2324 Ha ha...
My thoughts exactly. I tried playing god of war, I found it boring after a few hours. Lol.
No, the game is just very repetitive and the world is too static and feels unfinished.
I've been playing these games since the first Dark Souls and rank Bloodborne among my favorite games on the PS4. That said, I agree with you. The Dark Souls style does not make sense in an open world. Aimlessly wondering the world to get into fights diminishes the suspense and there aren't enough interesting rewards and environments that compel me to explore it. I also think this has the worst lore of any From game I've played.
I made it pretty far -- the giants area -- and quit. I only got that far because I was playing with a friend who moved across the Atlantic, and we both finally had it. Co-op was fun for a while, but I rather just have a Zoom call.
And the From fanboys always will try to convince you that you're playing the game wrong or you don't like it because you suck. I've beaten every From game I've played, and I think they're the most overrated studio out there. Aside from Bloodborne and Sekiro, they keep iterating on the same game since Demon's Souls. They used a massive open world with two cool areas to connect the Dark Souls dungeons -- wow.
Half the endings, weapons, minibosses, great runes, quests, and MOSTBof the exp is gained from exploring, if you think that elden ring should have a quest marker to show you where this location is or where that location is, go play watch dogs legion.
So what you’re saying is the concept of “if the player is stuck let’s give him somewhere else to go” is too crazy for your mind to handle. And the worst lore? Bro you got the story of a serial killer, the story of vyke, the story of the knight of black knives, radahns past, and you’re telling me it’s all garbage?
@@nathanhendrickson790 The shit sucks, get over it.
@@nathanhendrickson790hot trash , some of the worst writers
@@xRichieeex nice bait but I ain’t biting
I can understand someone not liking Elden Ring. It’s not for everyone and is very niche. However, from all the other games you pointed out, it seems to me you’re not a big RPG person in general which is totally fine, everyone has their tastes. My guess (coming from someone who plays many RPGs all the time) is this game was made for those who love the genre. The story unfolds as you play, the world seems empty at first but the more you play, the more you realize it’s full of dungeons, NPCs, hidden treasures, bosses that come out of nowhere etc. It’s truly a big leap in the genre and set the bar high for RPGs going forward because of the massive amount of customization/build variety.
Like I said, it’s not for everyone and I have lots of friends who tried it and weren’t into it, but as a long time gamer, you should know there will always be games that completely redefine a genre…THAT is Elden Ring.
Yup. Elden Ring is a genre defining game, from what I've been told. Much respect to it. I did like some RPGs, such as the turn based Final Fantasy games, or the Shining Force series. But Elden Ring and anything like it may be too much for me. Thanks for the comment!
@SwiftBMF I’ve noticed that’s how FromSoftware games are. They don’t give much direction because the main focus is to explore and find things yourself. As far as gear goes, you can honestly use one weapon the whole game. Every weapon or armor you get in the game can be used all the way to the end if you wanted to do that because every piece of gear is viable to beat the game.
As a FromSoftware fan who has played a lot of their souls games, and absolutely loved Bloodborne and Sekiro, I can understand if some parts of Elden Ring was a bit disappointing or enjoyable but the game isn’t inherently bad. I think Elden Ring’s biggest issue is the gameplay honestly, it just doesn’t have that balance that Bloodborne and Sekiro had and it’s likely because FromSoftware had to make some sacrifices as a result of the abundant of content that is in the game and how much of an open world game it is. Coming from these previous two titles (not including Demons Souls remake) the gameplay feels so disconnected between the enemies and the player itself. Bosses like Margit, The Fell Omen feel so difficult and frustrating because the core gameplay wasn’t designed well enough to fit the general pace of these boss fights. Instead it feels like FromSoftware made summons, ashes of war, weapon arts, and spells so OP to compensate the unbalance between the basic melee combat and the boss fights.
It’s almost as if there’s no middle ground with Elden Ring due to this, it’s either way too easy if you decide to use any of the FP attacks as your main source or damage or too difficult if you refuse to use any of it. The game just wasn’t designed around a melee only play style, it’s evident with the amount of FP attacks and tools they give you throughout the game. Unfortunately its just the way Elden Ring was designed on a pure gameplay standpoint and for people who don’t want to play it the way devs intended for you to play it, you’re not going to have a fun time even if you manage to beat the game. It’s simply not enjoyable to play without making use of the FP unless you get some ridiculous build with a great scaling weapon that goes with it but again, that’ll just make the game very easy. Because of this if I’m being brutally honest, I truly believe God of War Ragnarok deserved GOTY over Elden Ring due to its inferior gameplay design. God of War Ragnarok does not have any major issues at all with any aspect of that game while Elden Ring sacrificed gameplay for incredible and abundant content.
@Andrew Hernandez Personally, I didn’t enjoy Elden Ring as much as I did Bloodborne and Sekiro, and it all comes down to gameplay. And like you, I’ve played many RPG games especially FromSoftware titles. But yeah I agree with you on some points, Elden Ring does so much right as far as overall content goes and the whole open world aspect of it and it’s definitely not a bad game at all. Unfortunately though I think FromSoftware took a big step back on the core gameplay when you compare it to Bloodborne and Sekiro that made its main attraction the gameplay. Those two games truly evolved the gameplay within the genre and it wasn’t your typical sluggish dark souls gameplay we see all the time. Elden Ring’s main attraction is really the amount content available to keep players busy and entertained. But when you talk pure gameplay, Elden Ring just doesn’t live up to everything else it did so well because there’s such a huge disconnect between the melee combat and the pace of the boss fights. It’s really a game focused around FP usage and magic as almost everything you acquire aside from new weapons consumes FP and for players who rather have that close up melee approach, it’s going to feel incredibly unrewarding (unless you make an OP build) because of how the bosses were designed. Bosses like Margit just don’t leave room for rewarding punishes if you don’t make use of your FP, and it’s frustrating because you have to wait and wait until they do their one or two heavy attacks that have slow recovery and even then you’ll only get 2-3 free hits in max.
Due to how the general gameplay is designed, I actually don’t think there’s as much variety as people make it out to be because it’s all going to come down to FP abilities again in the long run or maxing out one or two stats on your build. There’s also no middle ground that balances out the gameplay like BB and Sekiro did so well because FP abilities make Elden Ring laughably easy but without FP abilities, the game is ridiculous tedious with it’s difficulty/patience requirements so it’s not going to be a fun experience overall even if you beat all the bosses the game has to offer.
TLDR; In a nutshell, Elden Ring’s gameplay isn’t all that satisfying to the average melee player when compared to Sekiro and Bloodborne because it’s too centered around FP usage. The game is either too easy or too hard because there’s no balance between gameplay and bosses. But Elden Ring is incredibly rich in content and there’s plentiful to do in the game, and just truly incredible art designs from the environments to the aesthetics of bosses. To enjoy Elden Ring, you’re going to have to accept the way the gameplay was designed and adapt to it.
@SwiftBMF You don't know where to go? The game tells you. It doesn't put I giant arrow there, but it still makes it pretty easy to know where you should go.
If you look at a grace, there is a gold stream of light pointing you in the direction of the first major boss to fight. It's even easier to see this on the map. Multiple NPCs will tell you this. If you actually spent 20 hrs without knowing this, that is a problem with you, not the game.
As for gear, you find most of it in chests or from bosses. How you managed to play for 20 hrs without finding any new gear is beyond me.
the fanboys will come at you for this.
They have and I love it!!!!
@@PersonalMagnusGames Enjoying animosity and pettiness, yeah, with this kinda vid i'm not surprised you're that kind.
@@chrantheman I honestly can't believe some fan of comments. It really makes me wonder, but it's just the internet. I don't take anything in here seriously. It's just entertaining. What's your opinion?
@@PersonalMagnusGames That engaging with you is a fruitless endavor given you take enjoyment from the misery of others and your opinion is set in stone. You went at this game despite it being in a genre you clearly don't enjoy and use a ton of reasoning as to why it's bad when a lot of those features is why the game is good to people who enjoy this genre. It renders this entire exercise pointless.
@@chrantheman Do you enjoy the game? How did you get into the genre?
In Nba 2k20, when game speed is around 70% as usual, it's really bad. It feels likes there is metallic pieces on each side of the floor attracting all players to run fast and move in disorder. While when it's around 55%, no words can explain it. Everything is real, simple, true. It becomes the best basketball game ever.
@Manny Magnus Garcia After watching your thoughts on Elden Ring, I think you would have a much better experience playing a souls game if you go with Bloodborne. Personally I think Bloodborne is easily the most enjoyable for non soul game players. The gameplay is very balanced and fair while retaining that difficulty souls games have and you’ll truly feel the reward for beating each boss (although there are a fair amount of bosses that are easy). The gameplay in bloodborne is very rewarding for almost all play styles in that game because the core combat is refined and well designed. Elden Ring’s gameplay really isn’t balanced all that well and its not enjoyable if you don’t play it the way it was designed to be played. My biggest problem with Elden Ring was how centered it was around magic usage which made basic melee combat redundant to an extent since bosses attack nonstop with little to no openings for a good punish. The second you start using all the FP based abilities like summons and ashes of war and spells, you realize the reason the bosses were designed the way they were in order to accommodate how powerful the tools they give you actually are. Just swinging your weapon at bosses and even a few specific enemies in Elden Ring isn’t enough, you really gotta use at least some of the tools they give you to have any kind of enjoyment with the game. The main attraction with Elden Ring is the amount of bosses and content that is in the base game, that’s what is praised so much with this game. Gameplay unfortunately is the biggest issue with the ER, it focuses too heavily on abilities and doesn’t reward skillful play enough for players like myself who like a challenging fight that is still fair.
No one reading that lol 😂
@@YaboyReillyi read it
@@YaboyReillythought it was ig lol
I’ve been saying this a lot but I’m always bombarded with “git gud” comments a lot of the time. I’ve played all soulsborne games enjoy each and every one of them but elden ring, I’ve went as high as I could in new game+ on all games. But this one, it’s the least enjoyable one imo
@@sunbro2522 Don’t blame you, Elden Ring is a bit overhyped by souls players at times because it’s finally something new to the genre which is the open world. But that really only appeals to certain players because the game requires a ridiculous amount of hours to complete and far more to 100%. Some players may prefer linear souls games like Bloodborne because it’s far more simple and easier to understand. Elden Ring is far more sophisticated and it takes way longer to fully understand the gameplay and mechanics of the game. So it’s really a different style of game, plus it doesn’t really help that the gameplay is heavily focused around magical attacks and overleveling yourself to progress rather than true balance. It can be really difficult for some souls players to adjust to Elden Ring because it’s so vastly different.
I actually cut the disc and put it in the trash and i hate the combat.
Good for you bro I would do this too but it’s just 60 dollars down the drain
@Jay72825 yes that i why i will never play another souls game
You could’ve just sold it to get some money back
imagine paying for this slop LOL
You gotta understand souls games are for those with a certain dedication (no social life, don't work, haven't seen the sun in 10 years) ya know
Pathetic, I have a social life, I have a girlfriend and I work as a tradesman in the construction industry. This comment I’m not sure if it’s point is to provoke? But it’s very silly, not seeing the sun when I work in construction?
@@KhanSahinkaya u must have a desk job then cuz no one i know that works construction has the energy or time to play a game like elden ring. i would know since we in the same field chief ;)
@@Aqsticgod mate you have a bit of a calamity on your hands, because I most definitely work in trade. Also not be brash, but you seem to enjoy games quite a lot according to your channel, time definitely seems to be in your favour. Furthermore that profile picture, my goodness. I couldn’t imagine any tradesman iv ever met, to use a cutesie recreation of a pokemon.
Yes it's for a certain kind of person but not necessarily a basement dweller. I also work outside, not a super active social life but I am married so I got that going for me.😅
Nah, demon's souls, dark souls and bloodborne had story and difficulty without being overwhelmingly huge and boring as a result
Bro got killed by a soldier of godrick.
Im guessing you didnt notice the tutorial at the beginning.
I don't even remember if I did the tutorial. But yes, that soldier destroyed me. Lol. I suck, I won't hide that. Thanks for the comment!
@@PersonalMagnusGames the tutorial teaches you the very Basic,like locking on. Also this game is more amazing than what it seems,you just need how to play first,then you will enjoy.
@@TBSEminem I'll try again. Thank you!
@@PersonalMagnusGames awesome
@@TBSEminem if the game needs to be played a certain way to be considered amazing, it isn't.
90+ hours here to take 100% achievements on Elden Ring and I can affirm that at least 50% of my deaths were because the worst camera system this game have since, I dont know, ps1 games?
I understand your dissappointment. I actually asked for refund after playing it for one hour, because for me it was not fun neither.
So I'd like to sideline this with my own experience with some other games. I cannot get into rogue-likes. I have tried a lot of games people consider masterpieces like hades, risk of rain 2, binding of isaac, ftl. Everytime I try these games I inevitably get bored. I really don't like the rng, I don't enjoy how the progress gets reset everytime, I don't like dying to a boss and then having to redo entire sections. That being said, I am never gonna use this to say that any of these games are bad. Theres a big difference between personal distaste for a game and the game having really bad faults. I played the shit out of destiny but that was objectively not a good game. It was a predatory game with good gunplay and the raids were nice, but had layers of unfair rng and grind.
What I am not gonna do is throw up a video saying "hades is a bad game, heres why" and then delve into how my first 5 hours werent fun, how I didn't like the rng or the fact you lose almost everything when you die. That's what you basically did. You threw up a video saying elden ring sucks, then gave anecdotes on why it doesn't personally appeal to you. You don't like the minimal direct storytelling, you don't like the world design, you don't like that the game has challenging encounters. I think you are expecting elden ring to be like god of war or spiderman when it just isn't.
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Fuck man, thank you. It blows my mind that people do this. "I don't like it so therefore it must be bad". What kind of mindset is that?
Finally someone in here who uses there brains
Play Darkest Dungeon
boring and trash at the same time
I'm surprised you didn't bring up the camera. That thing is more lost than insert really adult thing here they just that camera gets lost sometimes. Please feel free to use your imagination with where the camera goes when it gets quote lost.
Okay, so there's a lot to unpack in the video, but felt like I'd say a few things after watching the whole thing.
First off I wanna say that the route you took with this conversation was well done and not antagonistic in the slightest! Really good video despite being a big fromsoft fan. Also wanna say as clarification that there was a tutorial at the start of the game, but many new players missed that part that taught you quite a bit on how to play. They ended up adding extra stuff in an early patch to emphasize this alternate path so people wouldn't miss it later on.
One thing I did wanna talk about was the concept of elden ring being "boring". Truth be told, the word was so over utilized that it was a bit hard to understand what you meant at some point, but what it sort of sounds like is that it comes down to your lack of familiarity with the genre.
Elden ring isnt an easy game to pick up, especially if your expertise is elsewhere like retro and more arcade based games. The comparison you used was a side scroller shooter game that was difficult yes, but the difference is that there are tons of side scroller shooter bullet hell esk games like it that, and although they may be different, they can still have some notable similarities like power ups, single direction of shooting, etc.
The only games that are similar to Elden Ring are basically other games made from Fromsoft themselves such as dark souls. Its a genre that was made so notorious by this concept that the term "souls like" was coined for any game that had similar fundamentals.
With that said, there's nothing wrong with Elden Ring not being a game you're interested in. The game became a massive hype train and was basically the game that brought the Fromsoft franchise into the mainstream which is most likely why it caught the attention of people like you who don't normally play these games.
But that doesn't make it a bad game by any means. Elden Ring on a gameplay level is an insanely well polished masterpiece with a lot of thought put into it on a world level. It utilizes very small details as way of catching your attention and keeping you on the correct path. It doesn't give you much context why you're getting hunted by anything that breaths, but you put the pieces together through great bits of lore on your travels.
I think it's just worth mentioning that I myself do not like shooter games like call of duty. I find those games to be boring and not interesting in the slightest, but it would be unfair of myself to say that they are bad games because the concept of bad is very subjective unless it's a game like anthem.
Either way, good video and keep making videos!
Hey man long time souls fan I wanted to throw you a shooter game you might find interesting hunt showdown; to me the souls of shooters,
I think you definitely get my point. Thanks for your comment. I am not a fan, and Elden Ring Must be an amazing game. Just not for me.
@@Tea-n-such ohhhh, I played showdown before! Friend got it for me a while back and it was pretty fun actually!! Definitely need to play it some more
@@PersonalMagnusGames hey of course! Like I said, nothing wrong with not enjoying a game no matter how well recieved it's been! Take care my dude
I do agree with what you are saying while still understand where Manny is coming from as well. I was not a big fan either but always wanted to try souls like as it looks that those games are really interesting if you can get pas the difficulty. I tried Edlen Ring a few months ago and did not like it at all. I booted it up a week ago as I found a very good beginer tutorial that put you on the right track and it's way more fun now. The thing with Elden Ring is that you have to know what to do at very beginning and the game does not really help you with that (which is fine, it's souls like and I don't intend to complain about it). As soon as you have some decent stuff this game is such more better.
Getting George Martin to write the story for a Souls-esque game (where the details are released in dribs and drabs) is like hiring a world class chef to prepare the club sandwiches and pretzels for your casual get-together; sure, you're getting quality, but it's not very fulfilling (plus, it's overkill).
its marketing and artificial hype. Kids ate it. There is no story, the world is dead and boring, the difficulty is ridiculous to prolongate time investment of the gamer.
Its a bad game, that is all. So agreed with you.
I agreed that Elden Ring and Souls games are not approachable.
I am not the fan of Souls game's story telling style too; prefer games that straight feeding me the story like most western games.
But I have to say you need to do some research; Souls games and Elden Ring actually has those deeper story and world view compare to most other games.
The story exploration is hidden in words, equipment, status, and even the enemy's attacking movements has hints for story.
Study the story in Souls games and Elden Ring is basically like archaeology.
That's why there are videos that spend more than an hour to explain Elden Ring or Souls game story and world view.
I did not understand the story when I play Souls games.
So I do research.
@@Samuel-em5qm I will listen to you and will do my research as well. I might have been too harsh on my first comment - probably because of initial disappointment and higher expectations.
So thank you for the hint - I'll try again, and hope it will unravel in a different way.
@@Samuel-em5qmIts not a good story if I have to search the story on Google.
Soul Sacrifice Delta (PS Vita) has the best atmosphere (or atmospher?) any game ever had. Narration is too amazing to be described.
Yooo he said soul sacrifice finally someone who knows!
I don't think you even tried. Most of your gameplay was sneaking and jumping while you get attacked by enemies. While not perfect(no game is perfect), Elden Ring is one of the best games ever made with the one of the best open worlds ever created and it feels like the old school RPGs which you have the freedom to do whatever you like, as GOW the whole game is just linear walk in the park(except the combat which is pretty good). GOW Rangarok is just the same game from 2018 and should have been a DLC in 2019 but it turned out to be a lazy sequel 4 years later.
You should change your tittle. Elden Ring is a great game - Unfortunately not for me.
Calling something a great or bad game is also subjective.
Elden ring can be resume into:
"Every build is useless if it isn't mage build, the only dungeons that iw actually fun is hero's grave, the map is giant but it's full of empty spots (almost like true crimes streets of LA), everyone remember of the bosses until someone put dark souls III on the table"
It's an average game, not a masterpiece as everyone says
@@daniellacerdaferreira3376how many builds have you tried?
Your Just trash at the game
I wish we could get better at understanding the difference between "I don't like this" and "This is bad". The game is objectively good. You may not personally like it, but that doesn't mean it's bad. I suppose it could be waived off as semantics, but it really does generate unnecessary argument.
The statement at 5:58 is a myth that was debunked by this very game. The level of approachability absolutely brought in a lot of new players, just like BG3 did with another style of game that was believed to be more niche. Tons of new players were brought in.
It's completely understandable and valid to want more direction in a game, but you have to realize the world is bigger than the space between you and the tv/computer screen. I'm a person too, as is every other gamer. There's a very large portion of us who want less direction and more exploration. A true sense of discovery. Some of us want to follow a road and have no idea where it leads. Find a cave hiding behind some trees completely on our own.
I know there's an audience that doesn't enjoy gaming without a UI chauffeuring us around, and that's completely fair. Doesn't mean it's bad.
when i played elden ring it really felt like i was playing an incomplete game or doing a playtest the reused bosses were so annoying it just got boring i never got that feeling in dark souls 3 because all bosses were unique AND creative but let's face it elden ring is less worse than totk
Do you not know what an open world game is?
@@nathanhendrickson790 *No PleAsE TeAcH mE PlEAsE*
jesus this game just sucks so hard almost as bad as the fan base
Can we compare Tennis World Tour 2 (PC) and Elden Ring (PC)? Impossible, on one there is no story, one the other I internally almost swear to give my best with Zverev when I take him and believe me I give my best in such a case.
This review is hilarious because everything you say is true but FromSoft fans have just accepted is status quo and are afraid to admit how weird it is. Especially the "why is everyone trying to kill me?" Issue. I remember entering the snowfields and getting shot by Albanurics and I was like "Why are you shooting me? I saved Latenna!" But of course if something has a weapon itll just blindly attack you.
Also the npc quests are some of the worst designed i have ever seen. You can literally locl yourself out of a quest because you explored too much of the game.
Also the game requires literally hundreds of hours of your time for little payoff.
If you have found a game that everyone is soo hyped about it, know immediately that its trash and elden ring is one of them.
I come from fighting games and street fighter 6 is trash and everyone is hyping it up 😂
@@TheLastOutlaw289 true
"Graphics don't really do it for me, it's interesting gameplay"
How in the world can we say this against a game that wipes the floor with other action rpgs concerning the build variety, character, weapons, items, builds customization, even with ending routes. Analyzing enemy/boss patterns and telegraphed moves rather than button prompts that gives you a cutscene attack.
GoW's story, acting, character development is a once in a generation feat, but it's like oranges and apples. One is king of story, another is king of gameplay.
@SwiftBMF you must be blind my guy
and yet you dididn't really adress the gameplay. the combat is not very deep at all and it's never been in dark souls
sekiro was much better and so was nioh
@SwiftBMF You wanna know what's even worse than that? You didn't even need that high level gear to reach the end lol
@SwiftBMF I agree
@SwiftBMF the game is too complex for you maybe go play genshin impact lmaoo you probably just stayed in the staring area and kept on trying to fight the first overworld boss
From your gameplay, it looks like you didn’t know how to heal or rest at a checkpoint. You probably missed the tutorial
What is your laptop running?
I've got the latest Pentium 2 processor, with a 3dfx voodoo gaming card. SICK setup!
@@PersonalMagnusGames aight.
For me the game actually goes out of its way to remove insensitive to play through the sheer wall of bullshit.
[clicking on {ultra confidential}, environment shakes, a very bright light appears] You are now in the 13th century
If this same game was from ubisoft and not fromsoft it would of got trashed
Because Ubisoft absolutley sucks, they would’ve turned it into a baby game with absolutley no challenge whatsoever
@@slabon6091 what i mean is if this exact same game had ubis name slapped on it then no one would look twice at it
@MrSkullMerchant it would've probably had lootboxes and in game purchases and a battle pass too, with an ez mode
@@bboy_noiz9572 most likely lol 👍
@@slabon6091 well we have dlc and base game. Basicly dlc is every problem with base game multiplied by 10. I hope you know difference between Challenge and difficulty. Because dlc dont have Challenge, it has artifitial difficulty
[wing sound and extremely aggressive fire Attack of Black Dragon {confidential}, 6th century, {confidential} cave, visitors screaming]
Whilst I love the Souls series (Elden Ring included), you have my respect for how you approached your critique/review.
My only gripe is the title of the video, as it's made to be a definitive statement, rather than a personal take/review.
The Souls series are full of lore and story, but it's done a lot more subtle and where players need to seek out the lore (esp. from item descriptions, side quests, environment, etc.) A game like Elden Ring is an example of reward through journey/growth, rather than immediate reward/satisfaction.
Spent >100 hours and just dropped it after understanding that it's me trying to have fun instead of game providing fun to me. Playing Life is Strange 2 right now and it's 1000x more interesting.
i felt the same way when i first played elden ring but i gave it multiple tries and after around 3 tries i fell in love with the game, maybe give it a second chance but if you dont like it thats completely fine everyone has their own taste,
Sounds like Stockholm Syndrome. Get a life
@@classact9144 sounds like you got autism ngl, carry on commenting about others opinions and it will defo get you somewhere. But fr get whatever you have checked out
@@bkzz6822 Loser 😂 go throw your life away at loser games like Elden Ring. You have to force yourself to keep playing a game and then convince yourself you like it otherwise you have no purpose in life 😂😂😂. Just telling you the cold hard truth for your own good.
{Confidential} (PC), Follow the story.. Find the {confidential} to travel through Time. From the Kingdom of Spain to Ancient Dragon Caves, the world of media or of war, change specific events to change History and find the {ultra confidential}.
The reason why i don't like it at all is thst there is no direction. I have no idea what to do or what it wants me to do, so I'm just dying right away. Barely started it
The first NPC you talk to tells you where you go. And the point of the game is to explore.
Not for everyone, but the exploration is the entire point. The beauty is that there's very little direction. Refreshing for many people
@@MinecraftMartin Not for me. I sold it, just not into those big nap explorer games
@@spartanswhatisyourprofessi2825 Oh that's totally fair. I'm just clearing up the "no direction" part. :)
That is why i Love BOTW and TOTK. But with this game, the world is boring, the story is not there at all, and the gameplay sucks. The only good thing about this game is the graphics. @@MinecraftMartin
@@nickhirst7192 If graphics were the only good thing about this game, how do you explain the sales outperforming games with better graphics?
I think you just personally didn't like the game, and that's totally valid
I found Elden Rings lack of story and cutscenes refreshing. It's hard to get used to, but it's great that it rarely takes control away from you. No 10-20 minute movies every time you get to a new place or person. No BS cluttering up the screen telling you where to go next. It's made it hard for me to play other more story driven games now.
Have you ever thought that the reason the game isn't fun to you is because you never actually played it? Why would you play a game with an obviously long campaign and expect to be hit with everything its got in the first few minutes? To me it sounds like you didn't even explore the world at all, your gameplay also reflects that.
Just checked my steam account. It says I've played it for a total of 10 hours. 10 Hours SINCE LAUNCH Day. So yeah, I think you're right. It's like I haven't even played the game. But that's also ten hours of my life I'll never get back. After 10 hours, though in ANY other game I've liked...I'd be hooked by now. Yeah, you're also right. Barely explored. I don't care enough to. That's a problem. I like video games. Just not this one.
@@PersonalMagnusGames you spent 10 hours playing and you didn't even make it out of the starting zone, that just sounds like a literal skill issue to me, if you maybe put some effort in then it would be fun
@crazyrk4059 the game is boring asf
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You’re right about it not having a God of War type constant in your face story. Which is , to me, refreshing. Constant cut scenes and just holding forward on a stick on 30 mins to move during what essentially is a cut scene I had to play gets old. Elden Ring asks that you figure out the story. It gives you little bits but the rest is up to me to put together through item descriptions and interactions with other npcs.
Also, the accuracy with the arrows is t there to make you struggle. It’s there to make you search for another way.
FightinCowboy has a walkthrough for ER that will help you figure out how to play it.
Nah bro he quit after dying to Soldier of God, Rick's friend out in the boonies. If he gives up that easily ain't no walkthrough gonna save him now. He's gotta go play God of War on medium difficulty a couple more times before he can learn to overcome adversity lol
@@SonicPrototype I’m not even sure that’ll save him
Lack of cutscenes gets dull though, so I completely get it. Contrast that with a another game, Metroid Dread, which doesn't stop you for cutscenes all the time but the ones that are there are almost always either really hype or really important.
@@SonicPrototypeif difficulty is the only thing that makes your beloved game "good" then it sucks.
So you dont like the game cause the devs didnt hold your hand and spell everything out for you? Part of the game is uncovering the story. May not be your kind of thing but it dont mean the game sucks because it dont hold your hand! But to each their own
Great video and I share the same opinion. I got Elden Ring not too long after its release, beat it, got all the achievements and kept playing for more than 500hs. But, man what a pain it was to try to redo my journey after the first time. The game just felt boring, as you said, even before the end of the first journey, but at the second time, I couldn't take it anymore. Tried to use mods to see if it could get some of it's shine back but nothing works.
The greatest mistake that makes Elden Ring bad is simply the fact that it went open world. That decision broke the game.
You could try pvp its the best thing in this game imo
500hs?! You could have learned like half of a language in that time or some other shit like that.
You are not wrong and it makes me sad. @@markpozsar5785
I'd consider myself a souls vereran. I don't claim to be very good but I've platinumed them all with the exception of DS2...and I'm trying to like Elden Ring but I can't. The map is massive, but empty. The story is as vague as ever, and those two things don't gel. You don't have a quest log or anything of the sort, and following the golden path leads you straight towards bosses that you are far too under levelled for. The rewards are awful as well. I fight my way through a dungeon, beat a boss and get maybe a few thousand souls. Not even enough to level up once. There's no way to track which ones you've already beaten, and no incentive to. I've opened up a good chunk of the map but I don't feel like I'm making progress. I've beaten Godrick hours ago, and encountered nothing of note since.
For the title you probably should've stuck with "Elden Ring is boring" or "Why I didn't like Elden Ring" since that keeps things SUBJECTIVE and i can respect that. Now, if you say in your title the game's BAD i'm expecting some OBJECTIVE arguments which is why i clicked on it. Didn't really hear any though. The production quality of the video is really nice btw. Props and good luck.
Thanks a lot! I wrote down some notes on the title. When I spoke on the points on why it's a bad game...it's something I believe, but it is SUBJECTIVE. A bad game can be a good game to someone else. Objective arguments, to your point, were limited, but I can tell you the following that affected me: 1. NPC's AI is robotic. 2. Story is uncovered as you play, which can be interesting, but it requires time. 3. RPG elements and management, though vast, can overwhelm gamers who skip tutorial. 4. Tutorial and time requirements can be too much for some, including me. 5. Large dense world with plenty to do is good, however, without any real linear direction, many side quests can go unresolved. All leading to requirement to INVEST YOUR LIFE into the game. It's great for some, terrible for others. Yeah, it's subjective most of it, but that's a reason why it really appealed to MANY gamers. But not me.
I think we should be able to make that distinction if we're talking about a product's quality. The game's quality is undeniable. Your experience (which was bad) is a whole different matter. But i guess we can agree to disagree. Now:
1. I can see that in some cases. I have thoughts on that so lmk if you're interested in hearing them. But imo i think we're nitpicking here. No game's ai is perfect to my knowledge.
2. The story and world are well constructed. Yes, the narrative is unconventional and that's something that not everyone will wanna adjust to. That's fair.
I'll put 3 and 4 together since it all comes down to the same. So i'll ask you. Are the game's mechanics bad because you don't have the time to learn them? Is the game being so vast a bad thing because you don't have the time to put into exploring? Believe me man, time is also something i wish i could put more into videogames but i don't think those points are fair.
5. As for the main quest the game provides enough and even more than fromsoft usually does (i think it wouldn't be a "souls" game if it did more than that). As for the side-quests, if you don't wanna put the time, just ignore them. If you don't like non-linearity that's cool, but we're being subjective again dude.
Of course you shouldn't force yourself invest any of your time in something you don't enjoy only because it's popular. More power to you my guy! There's a lot of other awesome games out there and even more coming. Let's enjoy!
Different games for different tastes. I'm more surprised that Elden Ring made it this big despite being a very specific kind of experience. As a fan I'm happy it got this successful, but it does still surprise me considering what sort of games usually sell a lot. This game has very little that sort of appeal.
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Bro what the fuck are you talking about? Why are you just spamming this whole comment section?
I personally just got into elden ring after it being for sale the first time and i gotta say, first i was not sure if i would like it at all bc it’s not like the standard game there is nowadays, where u just get fed everything directly in ur mouth and u pretty much don’t have to think at all, but elden ring did something so right for me, idk if it’s the fact u literally have to build everything u do on ur own, like the equipment ur using or the way of traveling, it just works and another good thing, u don’t have to do certain things, for example the part u were stuck u could just ride through w ur horse or just go the other way and explore other parts until u are strong enough, bc u also can explore pretty much the whole map just from the start of the game. it just depends all on ur own and that’s what has done it for me.
I like that take more than many I’ve seen. So many people don’t get the core essence of Elden Ring.
Elden Ring exists to be a bit challenging. Elden Ring was never supposed to hold anyone’s hand, or be easy. It’s for the do it yourself people that have the time and affinity for having meaningful gameplay, not the mindless brain rotting monotony and force fed babying of so many new games. Elden Ring almost stands testament to the breed of gamers that have not turned into an older iPad kid, but instead, are just real, normal people, with a backbone and an actual brain left intact. Elden Ring is of course not for everyone, not everyone is emotionally matured enough to be challenged by anything sadly, blame it on the man
I don't want to play games. I want to be in a project with statistics, data, analyses. I play games after heavy efforts. I want a project where I am explained the functioning of a football ⚽ team for years and in which I plan success.
I'm not saying this to be mean or hateful, but based on what I've seen from your gameplay, you put little to no effort in understanding the game. This game has so much to offer. It has a great art direction, a lot of high quality bosses and enemies to fight, areas to explore, and characters to interact with. You simply haven't interacted with what the game has to offer because you're stuck and haven't made the effort to get unstuck (if you're still stuck at those archers with the giant, get on the horse and book it, don't overthink it lol). This game will test your patience and perseverance (a lot), if you lack those qualities then this game simply isn't for you and your taste. But that doesn't make it a bad game, it just means that it's not suited for your tastes and that's ok. Personally, I think it 100% deserves GOTY. Elden Ring not only met expectations, but exceeded them. One of the biggest releases and turning points in the gaming industry as a whole. I hope you give the game another try with an open mind. There's a reason your friend loves the game so much, don't be afraid to ask him for help. Jolly co-operation has been a thing since Dark Souls 1, you don't have to go alone! Best of luck to you man!
Thanks. I like that we can all share our opinions! Thanks for sharing yours.
@SwiftBMF there’s plenty of ground loot scattered around the open world. I found it helpful to use the Wiki page to get me going in the right direction
@@not_jca that’s a bad game design right there. if you need a guide it’s lazy design. still it’s matter of taste. i enjoy dog shit ice cream and getting lobotomies, it’s just not for everyone.
@@dmmd8304 It amazes me when people defend this game and then in the next sentence they say go ask a friend or search online lol, completely invalidating their arguement about game design
What's even worse, you don't need to farm loot
You can get to end game by ignoring the enemies
The game design is also fundamentally flawed
Putting in over powered bosses at the moment you start the game
Why is this redundant
Well,. naturally they are huge, so the majority of people are going to ignore them
Or if they do engage (once) they will lose and ignore them from that point onwards
If they have to go back sometime later, they will beat them if they even care about them after this point
You can also manipulate the flawed design of the game, farming an area and resetting it, rinse and repeat
It's that idiotic it allows this
@@dmmd8304 Nonsense. You call it lazy because you’re used to modern games holding your hand.
This game tosses you in and just lets you figure it out. Old school.
I enjoyed Dark Souls 3 a lot, but I did not like Elden Ring. I played it for about 55 hours, and I like open world RPGs. I have nearly 800 hours in Red Dead Redemption 2 and around 350 hours in Dragon's Dogma: Dark Arisen. Another disappointing game. Guess I'll just go play some Final Fantasy X.
Objectively Elden Ring is one of the best games ever created. It simply has great bosses, weapons, spells, a decent story, and potentially the Best world to explore in fiction. With that said, I understand people might not like the game. But just because you don’t like something, doesn’t mean it’s bad. I might not like steak, but I don’t consider steak to be bad. BTW Elden Ring really isn’t hard. You can one shot every enemy in the entire game.
happy for you
@@copsuicide Thanks
This game is hard just to be hard and it’s dumb honestly
Expecting a linear, handheld story is why you don’t like this game. Elden ring is not linear in its story and it is unclear but the lore in this game is so dense and detailed most people miss it. The storytelling in this game is unlike most games.
Calling the game boring is also the worst thing I’ve heard. I have finished the game at 130 hours and I have loved every moment of it. There’s so much to do and explore and the rewards are satisfying and unique, fighting bosses and learning the moves is challenging but rewarding when it pays off. You clearly have not experienced this game.
As for the difficulty- you simply aren’t very good after watching your gameplay. That’s okay, because no one is great when they start out but without trying to get good you can’t judge this game.
a) you are spam rolling, which doesn’t work, you need to time your them well.
b) you are not locking on to an enemy so your hits are missing
For a run-down of why you are being attacked, you are a tarnished, one of many, who’s goal is to collect shards of the Elden Ring to repair it and become Elden Lord. The soldiers who are attacking you are protecting a castle where one of the shards of the ring lies.
Please, watch some gameplay or a review of Elden Ring because you obviously do not understand this game.
@Vandole I had no issue finding where to go, if i saw something that looked significant, I would go to it. progressing the main story was fine for me, it was only on the second playthrough that I needed guides for questlines.
If you miss the lore and the story then what’s the point of them being there? The story and the lore is there to be discovered. Elden Ring doesn’t give you none of that. Says, go become Elden Lord and just lets you go. Doesn’t say how, doesn’t say where.
@@wakelogger8357 which is all the fun. Having freedom to figure things out yourself is really fun and other games should do it more.
I always thought this
All these Dark Souls Type games come with great graphics and these pretentious needlessly finnicky boss fights but otherwise such a barren and actually soulless world
Even more empty than most other open world games, no towns, no interesting quests or dialog, extremely weak story
the whole void of soul really ruins the atmosphere for me, too
they are all super overrated
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Beware of poking the Elden Ring fanboy beehive 😂
It's all good. They seem to be reasonable so far!
i am dark souls fun but i hate elden ring it ruins best series ever this trash is like combination of skyrim and world of warcraft with souls difficulty and combat world design is not at all like dark souls
@@urosopacic1403 elden ring is better than dark souls
@@urosopacic1403 u are just naming random games and it makes 0 sense
As a from soft femboy, I almost threw my phone multiple times during this video
Never played a Fromsoft game, I've tried watching people play them and always thought they looked boring. I gave Elden Ring a shot thinking it would be something different based on the open world and all the hype, but it really was not for me. Didn't like grind, didn't like the storytelling, doesn't even feel like an RPG to me. It's like a mix between a fighting game with all the boss moves I need to memorize and trying to find a build and weapons that can make a dent in them.
I saw someone write this and it summarizes my feelings perfectly. "The hardest thing about Elden Ring is finding a reason to give a sh!t."
It's the opposite experience I had playing Baldur's Gate 2. It made me want to play it despite it's difficult and unfamiliar gameplay.
I feel this way 💯 god of war was robbed as goty far superior game. Elden ring is just like every other souls game only difference is its open world. I dont get the hype.
I think it works mostly for people who just want to play and not read much text. The developers just forgot to keep reminding you of your objective throughout the whole game. And they should've also kept remind you on why everybody keeps attacking you including human beings.
Bro is nostalgic (oldschool) veteran gamer who is prefer to use his limited time for gaming by watching cutscene in modern game , and get scammed by everybody including his friend, thats a very bold claim.
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I've always loved how FS have incooperated players that have quit their games in the lore. Hollowed, the beast blood, and now the tarnished. I guess if I had any advice: finding the story is just as big of a part of the game as finding the cool boss or weapon. Finding that one item description, or area, or dialog with an npc that alleviates your confusion is just as rewarding as beating a hard enemy.
The lands between is your story, your journey--and the story you put together IS the narrative you're looking for.
The narrative is shit .
Finding the lore? You mean 1 of the lore Videos of vaati with millions of views. Because nobody cares to find it themselves. Even miyazaki himself said in a podcast that the item description aren't big enough.
"It works in a microlevel. Senses work together. It was designed to influence thoughts. That's how they communicate."
I think you may be conflating your overall preference with the wider first-time experience with the games Fromsoftware makes. This title sold incredibly well compared to past entries while still coming away with overwhelmingly positive reviews by people who, by simply working the numbers, had to be first-time players.
I think there is just a difference between players who just want to be given the control to go explore and find the story vs those who want it frontloaded to them. If you really want the former to make your actions have meaning, Elden Ring won't really work for you. If you instead want the opportunity to dig through the world for context, Elden Ring does that in ways your other open world examples simply do not do.
The video seems to, on some level, acknowledge this given how you relate how others enjoy the game, making your title pretty inflammatory and click baity.
Elden Ring is just A Dark Souls game with A bigger map, and not very well fortified.
it is okay if you do not like the game but if you say Elden Ring is a bad game, you are wrong.
I played the game for the sake just to explore the reasons why it became the Game of the Year. I'm having fun, by the way, it's enjoyable in many ways, but IT'S NOT GAME OF THE YEAR MATERIAL FOR PLENTY OF REASONS. The story narration, the lore, the character backgrounds, the skills, weapons, armor, and plenty of aspects lack the explanation for gamers new to the genre to understand. Yes, he is correct, besides the GIT GUD aspect, the entire game lacks the motivation, like what's next after beating a boss??? There's no sense of direction at all, like you get lost midway playing, even if you follow the site of grace directions. You need to watch TH-cam tutorials to get directions and tips to make little improvements. It's comparison in God of War: Ragnarok and Horizon: Forbidden West
It's a good game, yes, but not for me. I agree with your comments. Thank you!
@@PersonalMagnusGames I'm trying my best playing the game to fully understand its entire concept of being an open-world soulsborne game, I'm trying so hard like I'm dragging myself to "Git Gud" a term soulsborne gatekeepers tell those who are frustrated playing the game. Right now, I don't have a clear direction what to do next and who to kill compared to the open-world games that I'm used to.
@@glendalerosal3198 If you talk to Gideon Ofnir at the Round Table, he will give you direction for much of the game. Otherwise, the intention is for players to follow their own curiosity. Major landmarks are visible from a long way across the map. For me and for many others, that's enough. I see the castle on the hilltop, I want to visit it and and fight the boss.
@@eonwe5885 I didn't know that until you posted that comment which goes to show another hole in the game's direction for its main story.
@@glendalerosal3198 well yes because you weren't talking to NPCs in the hub area. Just talk to NPCs more. As I say, you are supposed to be guided by your own curiosity. Nepheli also encourages you to speak to him once she is at the Round Table. It's not the game's fault that you didn't bother talking to NPCs it put in your path.
Game is not a bad game. You just don't enjoy the game. Big difference man.
^ This.
I honestly think is an over hyped game and a step back from what FS has achieved with Sekiro, Bloodborne and even the OG dark souls.
The open world is barren, mostly empty fields with monsters walking around without coherence or reason. The type of stuff you'd expect from a unity asset flip game from Steam discount bin. The non-story dungeons are short. The bosses are spongy and often have cheap attacks that will hit you. Not to mention, tons of recycled bosses.
I honestly don't understand why they even called GRRM for this one. From my understanding he wrote the lore and characters but Miyazaki and Co. twisted it to become just another dark souls weird shit story. The narrative is a massive step down from Sekiro, the first FS game with a coherent story and engaging narrative.
The game isn't enjoyable not because of the difficulty or the challenge. Some bosses are interesting to fight, some just frustrating
However, it all lacks finesse. It feels clunky and outdated. That's it's biggest issues, like a game a decade ago
It is a SHIT game
Game is not a good game. You just don’t have good taste. Big difference man. See how you can flip your own logic right back on itself? It’s all opinion based. And let’s be completely honest. I’ve put over 200 hours into the game, and it in no way on God’s green earth deserves 10/10 ratings or a 97 on metacritic. It has SO many issues that a game made in 2022 just shouldn’t have. But y’all give it a free pass cuz “It’S fRoMsOfT aNd It LoOkS pReTtY!”. It’s pathetic how much y’all have simped for and hyped this game up. Every reason people give for this game being game of the year, Legend of Zelda BotW did 5 years prior, it just had literally no competition in the game awards. Just stop overhyping this blatantly mediocre and lackluster game and people won’t feel so inclined to rightfully and justifiably knock it off it’s pedestal.
Jeez R-Type, haven't thought of that in a while. Yeah that game was awesome :)
And yes I can totally understand someone finding Elden Ring boring. And don't let anybody tell you that "This is waht FromSoft games are like, you just don't get it, you're supposed to discover the story on your own". That's fanboy bullshit. Dark Souls 1 CLEARLY communicated the story and why the world is the way it is and what you're supposed to do. NPCs quite specifically told you what you need to do and in what order and why. Anybody claiming otherwise is simply lying. Elden Ring has been repeatedly critisized even by FromSoft fans who played all their games, for having the most cryptic and uninteresting story with the least clear motivation as the player character. So you are NOT alone with that, don't let the downvotes give you that impression.
This game can only be enjoyed to the fullest if you enjoy the exploration and gameplay enough to ignore the fact that it basically has no real story. It has world building sure, but the story is almost non existend. And JRR Martin has clearly stated repeatedly that his only involvement was exactly in that: the world building. He didn't write the story of the game, he wrote the BACKSTORY of the game, he wrote what happened thousands of years before the game starts. He had nothing to do with what takes place while you're playing. He created the lore, not the plot.
And I can understand that some people who enjoy open world games find Elden Ring empty and boring. There is no actual life happening, everything is just a combat area, everything is there to be killed. THere's nothing in the game but enemies and the occasional NPC, which thanks to the huge Open World, is usually missed by players (which is why they had to add map markers later in a patch, which is ironic because Souls fanboys shouted at people like you claiming their games don't need map markers because they have superior quest design).
Souls games don't offer anything but combat with very very little to get the player used to this combat. If you don't enjoy a world that has nothing to offer but targets to be killed, then indeed Elden RIng is not interesting at all.
And I disagree with the fanboys that this is simply the souls formula. Jedi Fallen Order has exactly the same game mechanics. You go through levels, you have hard to master combat and you kill stuff and progress in between these checkpoints. If you die, you need to get back to where you were to re-claim your XP. Exactly the same formula. HOwever that game combined it with much better combat balancing, with much better bosses that instead of doing stupid delay attacks or roll catches actually tested the skills learned against regular enemies. Still hard and difficult to master, but way more consistent, intersting and ... motivating, because there was an actual story behind WHY you were fighting the boss. And omg... it even has a difficulty setting that makes parry times easier for people that don't have 3 hours evey day to play games and train against a single boss 40 times in a row. And omg it doesn't break the game at all, who would have thought.
FromSoft fans really need to get over themselves and accept that while FromSoft has contributed some fantastic things to game design, their games are far from perfect and have a lot of mechanics that are completely outdated and clunky by today's standards, and could do a much better job at creating a compelling storyline for players for who simply killing things for 80 hours just isn't enough to stay invested.
If you DO want to get back into the game, you really need to play it for the world exploration, for finding new areas and new enemies. THe world can be beautiful and has lots of cool areas to discover that are hidden. But you just need to be able to get over the absence of much of any story and the fact that EVERYTHING on the map aside from the very very very few NPCs that you will run into, will try to kill you. You need to enjoy the combat system and invest a bit of time to learn it. Elden RIng has mechanics that can make things easier for you.
But if you simply cannot get into an action RPG that offers you little in terms of story and motivation (and don't let fanboys argue this point, this game simply doesn't have much of a story and even the better quests are super easy to mess up and not well presented at all) then I doubt the game will ever draw you in. This game's fun part lies in exploring the map for the map itself, not for what's in it, and for engaging combat. And I agree, that this is probably not enough for a lot of people.
THe bosses are also frustratingly hard unless you have the time to invest, or the build to cheese them, so it's likely you'll get stuck on some bosses for a long time, and without a proper story as to why you're even fighting them, that can quickly drain your motivation.
In my experience there's different types of RPG playes. There's people who want a blank character and just explore a world, like Skyrim, and even ignore the main story. Then there's people who don't care much about character builds and prefer an established character that they can take over and enjoy a beautifully crafted story, like Witcher 3, and then there's the dungeon crawlers that want a simple but fun combat system and just explore dungeons, kills tons of stuff with impressive effects and get tons of loot, like the Diablo series, and then there's people who want to craft a build and test it against a challenging combat system that throws more and more challenges at you in beautifully crafted levels that however don't offer much else aside from that combat.. that's the souls games and Elden Ring.
And there is absolutely nothing wrong with not having fun with Elden Ring, I for example have zero fun playing Diablo type games. I don't see the point in them, nor did I ever understand what's supposed to be fun about Skyrim. I enjoy a good story too, so Witcher or Mass Effect are more my thing, and while I did enjoy Elden Ring, the difficulty also got too frustrating at times and felt like the game didn't respect my time, so I stopped for a while and later finished the game with a build better suited to cheesing some bosses because I am also too old and busy to be bothered to spend hours on a single boss anymore. Not my kind of fun either, not anymore. I'm no teenager anymore that can spend his entire day playing games, just like you.
Here's my two cents and why I like Elden Ring and why I still play it today.
-Build variety and customization
-Encourages thinking outside of the box to solve problems
-Encourages planning and improvisation
-Vast exploration (I'm still finding things in the game)
You seem pretty set on stone for the game not being for you and that's fine, games aren't for everybody. Even games that are accessible and less punishing don't appeal to certain people. But I like Elden Ring's combat where you have to learn proper spacing, timing, and resource management. I like how the game doesn't hold your hand and expects you to figure things out on your own, not many games let me fail and learn to improve. I like how my immersion isn't broken by npcs screaming in my ear telling me to hit a boss' weak point or to use a special gadget for something I've done multiple times in the game. I like how every encounter is a puzzle that I need to solve on my own given the resources I have available. The biggest thing I like about Elden Ring is the fact that I don't have to pay microtransactions. I'm not shoved into a cash shop for skins, booster packs, unlockables, etc. I'm not hounded by a weekly battlepass with limited exclusive content that disappears after a month. Although Elden Ring can take time to learn, it doesn't force you to play it. You get to play it, learn, and improve at your own pace. You're not forced to go back into it for fear of losing out on a special event. But I'm already invested in the game and I have been invested in souls likes for a decade. I'm not going to convince you or anyone else, If anything some people will say that I'm just coping or that I'm too deep in the soulslike hole. But objectively speaking, I love these games because every problem they show you, every frustrating mechanic, has a solution. You just have to find it.
counterargument, go take a shower
@@panzer4720 Counter argument, take one with me you coward, you won't
@@nicko0904 dont threaten me with a good time
The game is polarizing for everything it does right there’s something that someone else could point to and say it does wrong. It’s praised very heavily by the new generation but I think older gamers see its flaws more than the younger gamers because this isn’t our first “Skyrim” or “Morrowwind” like experience. Which fair enough if this is the first game you’ve played that’s like Elder Scrolls you’d think it was a masterpiece the way I thought Elder Scrolls games were masterpieces.
Why didn't you use your horse to get past that area you were stuck at? Game forces you to think smartly about enemy layout and optimize approach
Also I would like to have heard your alternatives to Elden Ring so audience see what better options are present
I don't know why I didn't think smartly about enemy layout or anything. I just played and died, a lot! Which is fine. That's not what turned me away. I don't think I could give alternatives to this, because I don't exactly play these type of games a lot, personally, due to time. Like I mentioned "Spider-Man: Miles Morales" a lot in this video, not to compare, but to just give an example of a game I like. Thanks for the comment!
GoT is the complete game I love and how it should be combat wise, style wise etc
So when I played Elden ring, the combat was completely off putting
It feels awkward, clunky and generally unsatisfactory
Then when I just want to do some missions, i am told next to nothing on the next point. So they are just forgotten about entirely
I believe that people like this game is purely for the bosses and challenge
Everything else is just window dressing and lacks basic design from combat to exploration
If this was not open world and just a linear experience, it would suit that design far greater
While I dont think the game is bad I personally dont like it and Id rather play almost any other fromsoft game tbh.
Elden ring's world is massive but its massive for the sake of it and its filled with literally nothing to do but explore and kill fodder mobs hoping for boss encounters. Other open world games incentivize you to explore while also giving you things to actually do. Theres not many side quests in elden ring and most of the ones you can do only take a few minutes max, and by the way theres no way to keep track of what quests you've started which for a game this massive is a huge negative imo. Ranni's is the only notable one worth mentioning anyways.
Any OTHER GAME ON THE PLANET would be criticized if it had a massive open world where the main focus is just farming enemies and exploring but Elden ring not only gets a pass but it receives praise because it is a FS game. You spend 90% of your time riding around on torrent doing literally nothing other than going to areas solely because they look cool, and then that area has nothing to do in it outside of maybe 1 or 2 boss fights that have been copy pasted and maybe a copy pasted dungeon. Its cool and great the first time around, on the second playthrough it's boring as hell, because you've already explored these areas, there's no reason to go back. At least in games like Oblivion for example, I have a reason to do something optional again because its fun, the Whodunit quest from the dark brother hood is a good example, I did the dark brotherhood storyline like 10 times solely because of how fucking fun that quest is. Elden Ring's areas dont have that beyond a first playthrough unless you maybe enjoyed a boss fight there.
Theres no reason to backtrack to most areas, Caelid is a perfect example of this as there is literally no reason for that place to even exist from a story progression standpoint outside of needing half of one of the seals to activate a lift unless you want to fight Radahn or encounter Malenia's daughter (cant be bothered to remember her name) both of which are optional as you dont even have to fight Radahn assuming you encounter Rennala first (which most people probably will on their first playthroughs) so on a second playthrough youll spend 5 - 10 minutes in Caelid to retrieve this seal and then never go back.
The bosses in this game are a huge let down 160+ bosses but only 11 encounters are actually unique? Are you fucking kidding me? Fromsoft even used the boss count to help promote the game but 150ish bosses are just copy pastes.
Rykard, Rennalla, Radahn, Malenia, Gideon Ofnir, Radagon, Elden beast, Placidusaxx, Lanseaxx, Fire Giant, Maliketh. Thats it. Those are your 1 of a kind encounters. I wasnt expecting 160+ unique bosses but 11 unique boss fights is pathetically low.
By the way, 5 of those bosses are completely optional. So theres only 6 unique bosses you actually have to fight in this game.
The endgame scaling is the worst scaling ive ever seen in a video game, mountaintop of the giants outscales every other area of the game so hard its not even funny.
Dumpstats in any rpg (Elden ring is labeled as an rpg idgaf what anyone says, it is an rpg and has multiple elements of one) would be considered objectively bad because it's forcing you to put levels into a stat you may not want or need for a build but in ER if you enjoy not getting 1 shotted by fodder come MoTG you better have 50 vigor bare minimum.
No other game would get a pass for this but Elden ring does because Fromsoft fanboys are incapable of calling out criticisms in their favorite games (so every new soulsborne game)
I put 100 hours into elden ring and for the first 50 I enjoyed it, the last 50 was me forcing myself to continue enjoying it and the more i forced myself to play it the more I realised i actively disliked the game. I wouldnt even consider this to be one of the best Fromsoft games let alone one of the best game's ever made.
If you like this game and you're chill about it then cool, I dont have problems with anyone who likes Elden Ring outside of the people who suck it off so hard they cant stop to actually criticize the game. The game has a LOT of flaws and for me thats mostly with the lack of things to do while exploring, the atrocious amount of copy pasted boss fights, and the terrible endgame scaling.
For me, Ill stick with Ds3, Bloodborne, Sekiro, and Ds1
You could have probably just said it’s not for you. There isn’t really any insight in this.
I also think you’re objectively wrong saying that God of War has you more involved in the story, since you have zero involvement in that story. It’s basically a movie that you watch, with you pushing buttons that advance the script. It’s a great story, but you are not able to be involved in it. Elden Ring’s story though, is completely your story. And it is an immensely deep and rich story. You control every aspect of the story.
You are also told fairly early on why you’re being attacked. You’re an immortal Tarnished who holds the fate of The Lands Between. You’re success likely spells the doom for everyone else.
You’re also objectively wrong calling the game ridiculously hard, when it’s just reasonably hard. There isn’t a single person who isn’t capable of beating this game. It’s just a game that doesn’t give you anything. If you want to beat some guys shooting arrows at you, you have to earn it. It’s very reasonable for you to figure out how to beat the Troll surrounded by archers, without taking a single hit, without any sort of guidance by the game. You just try something different after you die, and get sent back to a Site of Grace just steps away from where you previously failed. With enough attempts, literally anyone can figure out how to not only overcome that challenge, but make it look easy.
If this sounds harsh, it’s not me actually judging you. The first time I played Dark Souls, I had the exact same reaction you have with Elden Ring. I quit after about a half an hour, and didn’t come back for months. When I finally did, after encouragement from some friends, I went in with a dedication to at least get past the first boss after the tutorial section. It took me hours to do it, but when I finally did, I beat the Taurus Demon without taking a single hit.
By the time I got past the second bosses most people face, things starting clicking, and I grew the confidence that I could beat everything the game threw at me, as long as I didn’t give up. Beating that game, is the only time I’ve ever felt actually rewarded from playing a video game. I felt like I actually achieved something meaningful, and learned a lesson that might actually be viable outside of just gaming.
I know this sounds really corny and exaggerated, but thousands of people have had this same experience as me, and can tell similar stories. I don’t personally think Elden Ring captures this as much as plying Dark Souls for the first time does, but it does have a lot of the same merit. Mostly being, that there isn’t a single challenge in that game, or single bit of story in the game, that you can’t overcome and discover based on your own efforts, and not from the game simply giving it to you. When you beat a boss, it’s because you became good enough to beat the boss. When you learn more of your story, it’s because you discovered the story. This is one of the only types of games where you can truly make it yours.
If that doesn’t sound like something you’d enjoy, that’s perfectly fine. I do think you should discover what the game actually is, before calling it bad though, and I think you should reconsider how you’re playing the game, and try to persevere, because you may end up with an experience unlike anything you’ve ever had before. I wish there was a way I could play Dark Souls for the first time again, or play and beat Elden Ring as a first time Souls game. I’d love to know what that’s like.
Elden Ring does not have a rich story, it has no story at all ... the movies that you talk about are what a narrated story is like.
That there is some background lore and environmental storytelling does not make it habe this deep and rich story you claim. And I got all 3 main endings. You could just play the game with your personality void of a character, get to Elden Beast and you would know nothing. That there is a bit of background like with Ranni, the stars, Godwyn, etc. does not give it a game with storytelling. Good RPGs have narrated story, environmental storytelling and lore. Not just one or two of them. 150 hours do not lie.
Elden Ring having story is like saying Pokemon Red has a story. If one likes running around and exploring, sure. But claiming it is more than it is is ridiculous.
Can we all understand that a good game and a game you dont like are two different things. Busby 3d is a bad game. Elden ring is a game that you dont like which is fine but lets not go around telling people a critically acclaimed game is a bad product when most of the playerbase consider it a good game.
While I don't think it is a bad game, you can think a commonly praised thing is bad if you want. It might not make a lot of sense, but there is nothing wrong with that.
Elden ring is absolutely trash, especially for a PC with its crappy controls. Also, for a game to demand such intellectual investment is an overkill and a waste of time. Why would I invest so much time in learning small things to get better at a game that I will stop playing in a short period and switch to something else?.Its supposed to be a game not a career
You have a really shallow take on video games and I'm going to be honest, but all your nitpicks about the game are really self centered. If you're a busy adult and don't have time for a very difficult 120+ hour game then that's on you not on Elden Ring.
Get over yourself kiddo
"You wear the {ultra confidential}" (game ends)
As a huuuge fan of the Dark Souls series, I totally understand where you're coming from. Honestly, I got Elden Ring when it first came out, but I couldn't get into it until just now basically for the same reasons you complained about. I feel like it threw me into this vastly complex new universe, almost parallel to the Dark Souls universe but with everything complicated further, with new lore to learn and tons of new factions and new mechanics and just so much more to learn. My biggest issue was that I just didn't understand the motivation of my character, or the driving force of the conflict, or literally anything else that was happening in the game, it all felt so overwhelming and of course the game does little to explain literally anything to you. I was curious, yes, but I felt like I was missing so much context for the way this world worked that I just became disinterested. You could argue that Dark Souls is similar, but compared to Elden Ring, the concepts that drive Dark Souls are far more simpler and less convoluted, therefore easier to grasp. I've since given it another shot because I'm a sucker for experiencing the beautiful and atmospheric worlds that FromSoftware makes, and I'm having fun with it, although admittedly I'm still pretty unsure as to the "why"s of the game still. There are just so many high concepts the game throws at you. I do gain a bit of purpose from interacting with actual well written NPCs, but those interactions and the vague sense of purpose they give still leave a lot to be desired.
Dark Souls 1 actually explained its story to the player and had NPCs literally telling you what you need to do and why. The more toxic fromsoft crowd may claim "oh that would be handholding, you casual" yet completely ignore that this is exactly what Dark Souls 1 did.
Elden Rings open world simply works as a disadvantage in that regard and it's story telling is vastly inferior to previous titles and its NPC interactions and quests have been outdated for decades. They can absolutely keep a story that needs to be discovered but nobody can tell me that it's necessary to repeatedly klick on a "talk" interaction to exhaust the dialog with an NPC. That's not necessary that's just lazy design and not appropriate anymore for 2023.
And it is indeed an obstacle for new players to get invested. If the story and world and lore was presented better and not hidden in item descriptions in a badly designed UI (which is a HUGELY lazy way to do it, no matter what the fromsoft fanboys say), more people would be able to enjoy Elden RIng. But even then you can argue that having a world that has nothing but stuff to kill in it and nothing else to find... is pushing the limits for some people as well. In Dark Souls the empy world that has nothing but hollows in it was kind of part of the story itself. That's what made sense in that world. But in Elden RIng it feels out of place and isn't explained at all. And to be honest, this style of "dead world, go kill everything and fullfill some ancient prophecy" is also getting old by now. It's not exactly innovative to do the same thing in every game. Sekiro had a story and a completely different feel, and Bloodborne tried a different setting and playstyle. If anything Elden Ring is the LEAST innovative title from FromSoft in recent history.
I'll preface my comment by saying I don't hate Elden Ring and I did an entire playthrough of the base game (I'm not going back and playing the DLC, I have real life stuff going on, and if I'm going to sink time into a game, it's going to be Siege as I'm trying to hit Diamond again). To enjoy Elden Ring, or any "Souls-like" game, you have to really want to play it and be invested into it (which I am not). It's not CoD where you can jump in, be halfway decent at FPS games, and go positive. It's like the developmentally disabled cousin of high skill gap MP games, where you don't react to actual people, it's artificially difficult bosses that were created to pad game-time (I mean that in the best way possible, I understand it's the draw of the game).
If I'm going to get good at something, I want to know I'm beating other people or I'm working towards an achievement (like a rank in Siege or CS:GO) that means I took the time to get really damn good at a game, not just... roll... roll... strike at weak point. It doesn't mean Elden Ring or other Soulslikes are bad games, they just aren't for me. I enjoyed my playthrough a decent amount but at the end it was just "alright, back to Siege".
Most, if not all of your comments, are based on your uninformed opinions and not in the reality of what Elden Ring is. Not taking the time to read the extensive lore presented in the game, or learning how to dodge or parry effectively, or even advancing enough to get out of the "starter area" does not give your opinion any credibility. There are many very detailed questlines throughout the game that increase the total immersion experience. You can be sure none of them involve killing x number of monsters, or gathering x number of ingredients. You'll have to do some thinking and take the time to immerse yourself in the experience. There are tons of youtube tutorials that can bring you up to speed fairly quickly. Since this isn't really a game style you're comfortable with, maybe spend a little time to understand it before you commit to an uninformed opinion. When you face an obstacle in real life, do you immediately throw your hands up in the air and give up, or do you educate yourself and "get gud" before throwing your opinions out into the internet? If all else fails, go back to your Nintendo games and have everything spoon fed to you.
PS - you can turn off the messages. They're just a distration at best.
PPS - Your clip of you panic rolling around the archers and the giant really emphasize just how little you understand the combat mechanics. Archers are actually pretty easy to dodge most of the time.
PPS - If an enemy seems unbeatable, it probably means you're not leveled or skilled enough to handle it yet. Get some levels under your belt, learn how to use your chosen weapon better, and try it again later.
Nba 2k20 (PS4) with game speed lowered to around 55% is one of the best games I have ever played and I stopped playing it only because PS4 was given back to my brother.
-Elden Ring is a bad game- It doesn't suit my personal taste.
No, the crossed out statement was correct the first time
Try dark souls 3 it has all the pro's with barely any of the flaws (imo)
can't stand soulsborne bullshit myself. Elden Ring is easily the most overrated game of all time up there with the new zelda titles. Empty, heartless games.
Honestly God of war should have won GOTY but I understand why eleden ring did, and I also understand why you don't like it well said man
Why should have a trash overated game won also i beat gowr you havent beat elden ring go play it
finally found another video where someone actually identifies er as the bad game it is that isn't just pretending to with the title and the entire video until they end with "it's actually still the best/my favorite game ever made guys"
and i can tell this before having watched your video based off the dislike ratio , the fans are en mass to downvote while never (from what i see in the comments) offering a comprehensive defense of why er isn't bad.....
Iv seen so many elden ring critiques, and it always starts with "dont get me wrong, elden ring is absolutely amazing". No, no its not 😂
@@ghostparty2062 it's really quite sickening , everyone is trading their balls for chewtube bucks.....
"If I don't like it, that must mean people who say they do are lying!"
What a miserable mindset to have
Never listen those saying Tennis World Tour 2 (PC) is not good. They lie. They judge quick. In Tennis World Tennis 2, one of the camera angles makes the game insane. Then when you higher crowd volume and players voice guess what happens. It's a phenomenal games with a phenomenal physic.
Elden Ring is the greatest game of all time.
I mean not having any experience with how souls games function will 9 times out of 10 set you up to have this take on the game if story is important to you. There really isn't one and what's there is just wishy washy and vague like its always been
Genuine skill issue, I'm not even joking. You can literally run past the enemies in the part you were stuck on, either with the horse or on foot.
doesn’t change the fact that the game sucks😢
Skill issue than you say "just skip the enemies"
So what's the point?
The game is based around avoiding or finding a way to overide a clunky mechanic.
Rolly polly simulator is not my thing
Each boss has 2 Maybe 3 mechanics. In which every one of them is avoided by rolling.
If you're not rolling, you're exploiting the game. It's that simple.
I played for a solid 20 hours, and I found 0 interesting items, discoveries or lore.
Just goofy looking random bosses aimlessly walking around, waiting for a 20 minute rolling simulator.
Spend insane amount of time rolling attacks, or cheese it.
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@@frankgallagur2045nah Frank and again a you problem. And could you please tell me what you did in these 20 hours of gameplay. And what is considered „interesting“ in your opinion. From what I read. I’m pretty sure you played the game the same way how this fool in the video did. And calling it a rolling simulator just tells me that you didn’t get a grasp how versatile and interesting the game actually is, because you was too involved panic-rolling into random minibosses. The dodge mechanic is fundamentally in this whole genre and that’s why it is loved ,because it actually takes skill to perfectly time the role into the enemy and to learn its mechanics and patterns so you don’t get hit. That doesn’t take away the build variety tho. And no you don’t have to kill every soldier, rat or hillbilly in this game. They’re there to fill the game but aren’t necessarily important. But every enemy and character got a lore which makes is, again extremely filled and interesting.
I’m glad to see someone share a similar experience. I got in when the dlc hype came around and was disappointed when I played through the game. The only joy I felt playing the game was getting to the next boss, so I could finish the game faster. The world didn’t seem interesting to me and the combat seemed basic to me. Obviously, people love this game and praise it as a masterpiece, so the game must be a good game overall if the majority love it. But I just don’t see the appeal. For me, it’s a hard game to recommend and had me wanting the game to be over as soon as possible.
The only good thing in Elden Ring is on introduction video narrator screams: "The All Knowing!!!" mentioning someone with incredible seriousness