Road Stories- Nightmare Bandmates And How The Gig Can Disintegrate Really Fast With A Bad Bandmate!
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- Nightmare Bandmates. Every Musician has had them. Here’s 2 stories from the early 2000’s talking about just how bad things can get with drugs and or alcohol
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Bass players volume ruined more gigs than I can remember, it was ALWAYS the bass player.
I played a gig once ( another video needs to be made for this story too, lol) bass player was loud and clicky in his sound owner of venue goes to sound board ( knows nothing about sound) overrides sound guy and turns bass way down in mains and monitor… I’ll leave the rest for the video but I’m sure you can imagine what happens next, lol
I thought it was always the drummers fault ? If In doubt, blame the drummer - couldn't hoit!! And on issues other than music stuff the weatherman is always first-up in the blame game.
@@kevinhall3449 haha true!
Those are nightmare gigs indeed.
We had a gig in i think Port Elgin and a couple guys from back at home in Milton decided to come up and see us and they got there about noon and proceeded to get our drummer pissed. They drank all afternoon and played pool and the rest of the band just knew what was gonna happen. The drummer kept reassuring us "nah man, i'll be fine for showtime". Well, he wasnt. He was very drunk ! He could not play or keep time worth a dam. We were SO embaressed. Appologizing to the bar patrons. Screaming at him to speed up ! I wanted to crawl out of there so bad. End of the first set, we all rip a strip off him, he gets defensive and throws a chair which punches a hole in a guitar case. It was a bad scene. He got a little better for set 2 and 3 but it was one of the last gigs with him. It was sad though because he was a lifelong friend and he and I were the rhythm section. Booze and dope has killed a lot of good bands indeed.
Another cool video sir !
Rock on !
Wow, as I read your comment I could see where this was going to end up. I don’t understand how he could not see what he was doing was wrong and the defensiveness makes no sense.. sad really. Thanks for watching and your comment!
I ONCE PLAYED IN A VERY GOOD BAND BUT THE PROBLEM WAS EVERYBODY EXCEPT ME WAS STONED ON STAGE. THIS MENT I HAD TO TUNE ALL THE GUITARS BEFORE WE WENT ON BECAUSE WHEN THEY WERE STONED THEY COULD NOT TUNE THIER GUITARS. IN THOSE DAYS YOU TUNED BY EAR. NO TUNERS.
Brutal, I played ( subbed ) in a locally famous punk band and couldn’t stand the constant booze and drug use! So I feel your pain
It’s a sad statement when we can’t have a good time unless we’re high. Good times are supposed to make you high!
Wow, I couldn’t agree more! Finally someone that gets it. I talk about this a lot at drum clinics events where I speak and also to my students. I don’t need booze, drugs, gambling etc my high is the joy on stage and seeing the crowd react to what I’m doing and making them dance. My goal every time I hit the stage is to get the musical high!! It’s all I need
Egos,bad attitudes,creative differences,money,alcohol,drugs,bad management,crazy partners of band members,bad sound mixes,tuning,you name it,a 1000 things can go wrong,i've seen it,lived it,sh#t happens n assh#les cause it.
Yup you are correct!
When people make an agreement to work together as a band they shouldn't be letting booze and drugs destroy things
I agree totally but sometimes it just doesn’t go that way, sadly!
People in bands want think they're "rock stars", and be irresponsible like they hear the famous guys do. IMO
@@jfo3000 yes some do you are right. On the other side I’ve played with some really great pro level musicians that are excellent to work with. The hooligans though can make it very difficult 😞
Appreciating your stories. I once spent a summer playing in a country rock band. Before the first night of a week-long gig the guitar player had a fight with another band member over some matter with the guitar player’s girlfriend (“No, shins NOT welcome in the band house that the venue provided.) To make a convoluted story short, guitar player ( a good dude before he met his girlfriend/hurl friend) does not show up late to the gig. He just does not show up…all week…in a country rock band!) With responsibilities to the venue and rents to pay, we forged ahead…all week. As a keyboard player, I had to learn how to fill a lot more space. To our credit, the band members all stepped up the energy and we made it through the week with slightly larger paycheques to boot.
Wow, yes that’s happened to bands I’ve been in ( another video perhaps, lol) but that’s still not right I really don’t like that. I was a band leader for 7 yrs and it was a lot of work and dealing with everyone was not easy. Luckily g/f’s and wives weren’t too bad 2 band mates were single at one point
I played a gig years ago (drummer) at a local hall. After the second or third tune I noticed my drums moving a bit (yes I tested before). Unfortunately we went straight into the next tune before I was able to let the band know. So, I altered the kick drum pattern from beats on every quarter note, to 1 and 3 in hopes of limiting the movement. We got through the tune and the whole gig, but afterwards, the band leader went off on me for changing the song, even tho it really didn’t have a big effect. I never played another gig with this guy and found out 2 others left as well. This was about 12 years ago. Fast forward to 2 weeks ago, I’m talking to a guy I work with who also plays drums and told me about this a..hole he played with years ago. We figured out it was the same jerk 😂 He quit because the leader was jealous of his singing. Just not a good guy.
Yup there everywhere! I have many stories of difficult band leaders, lol
Dude!!!! CLASSIC story!!!
OMG!!! 😂
Glad you enjoyed it!
100% on everything you said
Thanks
Are bands and rock music gone? A car pulls up besides you at a stop light, and what is blasting through the speakers? The bass. And it is usually some form of rap music. Rock music seems dead unless you see the original band at some enormo-dome. Cover bands were popular at one time in bars, but the only music forms where people still go out are maybe country and blues. Many older people have kids, so if they go see a rock band in a bar, they have to find babysitters. And as you age, the novelty of going out to a bar to see a cover band tends to wear out. They would much rather watch Netflix or some special on TV at home.
Neil Young said, “Rock and Roll will never die?” I wonder about that with today's music. There is a lot of diverse music out there. Rap music is the big style today, it seems. Rock seems generational, for older people who grew up listening to it. I can imagine when these people get so old that they enter retirement homes, they probably won't want to listen to big-band music, they won't want to listen to Guy Lombardo or Tommy Dorsey that you hear now from retirement homes. They would rather listen to Metallica and Led Zeppelin -- the music they grew up listening to when they were young. Rock seems to take a back seat today for the young kids. I can't think of any big modern-day rock band where the members are in their teens. Who are the new big rock bands that will carry their audience like the Rolling Stones have? I'm sure there are some out there, but I can't think of who they are.
Unfortunately I think you’re right. Greta van fleet comes to mind and there are many bands in the metal genre but main stream rock is not what it used to be. Very sad state of affairs music today. I did a video on modern music a few weeks back if you want to check it out!
yeah, drugs, Alcohol & rock star egos . In my case , small intimate gigs went off flawless.
The high impact, large crowd, important gigs were a disaster cus of one M F' er . Ahhhhh!
LOVE your channel Tim. I can relate to so much of what you say here. Keep on going. Wishing you all the best! thank you.
Hey man, thanks so much that’s really great. Keep on watching new stuff on the horizon!!
Yeah but your high is earned. Most people just want to swallow a pill or alcohol for an unearned cheap high. Keep drumming and teaching the right path!
Unfortunately you are right! Thanks for your support!! And I will take your advice!
Hi , I found your channel interesting. I am from California originally. I came here to Niagara Falls during the Vietnam War. I was a musician. I have played guitar forever it seems. Always dreamed of being able to do something with my music. I went to highschool with Jackson Browne in LA. I spent years doing some gigs here in Ontario and Vancouver. You pretty much sound discouraged to say the least. I was never impressed with what has always gone on with music in Canada . The basic problem is there really isn't and never was a decent music scene. Problem being, there's very few really good musicians here. I know even for myself, places like Nashville have always been a mecca for musicians. Canada just unfortunately never had that and therefore a nightmare trying to do anything with music. Yes , there are people like Brian Adam's and Lover boy and Pete Thorn guitarist from Alberta. But that is an exception. Just curious over the years, how much money did you actually make? I gave up trying. I spent my life on the Great Lakes working as a navigational officer for Canada Steamship lines. I know making a living at music here was a no go for me. I honestly was never that impressed with anyone from the Niagara area as guitar players. One long time friend in Niagara on the Lake named Freddy Gabrsek is my guitar builder and repairman. He is absolutely brilliant and a fabulous guitar player.
I find that playing Rockabilly music, a mix of rhythm and blues, really grabs people's attention. When I'm busking, kids particularly love this style of music. They often pester their parents for money to drop into my guitar case. Even people from other areas of the music world seem to enjoy and groove to Rockabilly music. I hope this style will become more widely appreciated and people will shift away from the AI-induced music that's so prevalent nowadays.
It isn't pleasant to hear a constant beat throughout an entire song. So lame! Putting too much on it destroys the song. While the singers may have beautiful voices, loud noise (clipping) can overshadow their vocals. This is where classical music comes in - it offers a pleasant sound without bothersome noise.
Music is a form of creativity that takes time to develop.
Patience!
New viewer here....and I LOVE the Canadian representation!
Thanks for viewing!! Canadian, eh!
I like to hear how you deal with a band member who just isn’t cutting it? We have a female singer in our band that doesn’t sing very well, has no idea when to come in and it’s driving me crazy. However, I don’t want to break her heart.
Sadly you will have to. I’ve been fired twice so it’s part of the biz! Just get someone else first and then just let her go gently. “We’ve decided we need a change” kinda thing. Good luck
@@thebigleone1066 🥾
Oh, I have stories where other guys and even ME(once) of imbibing. The bandleader picked all tunes that had massive Dave Weckle-like drum solos with shots and stuff. Learned my lesson in front of an audience.
"But every junkie's like a settin' sun"
True, so funny you mention that as I played ( sub now ) in a Neil Young Tribute
@@drumteacher43
Fellow musician here(guitar)
Enjoying your tales from the road. Yeah I didn't want to give him credit ever since he sold out to the political establishment. lol
True. Glad you are enjoying the videos, man!
One E club I remember was called “FILM” … I remember this one bc it was just like a door in an alley with a little label on it that said “FILM” … there was a yellow brick road on the floor when you walked in … the other one that was popular was called “System Sound Bar”
I don’t remember but I do think system sound bar rings a bell!
Rave clubs - Guvernment, Industry, Limelight, Comfort Zone, The Docks, Oz. Sounds like the guitarist is doing GHB. Do to much and you "G out" and end up in an ambulance. A lot of clubs where drugs were part of the scene had a Zero tolerance policy about G.
Comfort zone was the club he went to and I was talking about and I think you’re right it was G. Thanks for filling in the holes for the story
@@drumteacher43 no worries. Like you I've been around. My musical taste is broad so I've experienced different musical scenes, the good, the bad, and the ugly.
Thanks!!
@@drumteacher43 you must have had a late set at The P...... Comfort Zone was a sketchy after-hours that didn't open till midnight. On long weekends they would stay open through the day. Way too sketch for me.
@solkinar very sketchy. I’m guessing at the times this took place I just remember we were not done performing for the night when we were forced to shut it down!
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Teenage Head began their musical journey with Rockabilly in Hamilton and I too attended Westdale Secondary High School with these guys. It was a honour to watch this band play.
Fun times!
I had a friend tell me to go see this band because the drummer was incredible. So he was incredible the first set with very tasty and different fills. He was okay on the second set but he'd been drinking and did more fills than necessary. By the third set he was terrible using way too many fills and repeating them and using the crash cymbal way too much. It was like 3 different drummers showed up. I never drank more than a beer or two because when I drink too much I speed everything up lol.
Disappointing. Me too never more than 2 even when they offered free drinks to the band
Nigel in Canada🇨🇦
after the guys in Hamilton's band the ROCKERS quit all their full-time jobs, left their homes ?
the lead singer (Jerry McGee) LEFT THE BAND
to form BRIGHTON ROCK
i said the biggest " i told you so"
the lead singer threw the rest of the band "under the bus"
one member was his best friend who had quit a full-time job at STELCO
"rock n roll is a vicious game"
Yes the Brighton Rock lead singer commented on my videos! lol I also have subbed for the drummer on a number of gigs.
@@drumteacher43 Jerry McGee has died I think ?
I’m not sure, but someone from Brighton rock messaged me yesterday
@@drumteacher43 ah ok, anyways I am trying to find BASS PLAYER in Hamilton to jam with and form the next best classic rock band
I know I am the best classic rock guitarist in this area
if you know of anyone in either me know
thanks, Nigel in Hamilton
@Nigel-ry1po ok cool 😎
I got a good one for ya Tim. I was in a band a couple of years ago, was with them pretty steady for 3y. One private party gig we had at a trailer park. So we're setting up and this random dude showed up and is like hey! I got my guitar can I play with you guys?? We're all kinda like wtf?? umm .. sure.. Anyway he sets up sort of of to the side. Long story short. He didn't know like any basic chords, when stops were etc.. It was just weird. LOL
I never allow people to play on stage unless I absolutely know who they are and they can play. Even though most pro’s never ask to play . I was playing at Casino Niagara and 2 Air supply members came up ( that’s a whole video in itself, lol)
That's Rock n Roll, baby!
“Whatta you wanna do with your life??
Tim, you probably already have this video topic in mind, but just in case you don’t, might I recommend you making some content about nightmare bar managers and nightmare band fans/hangers on? Just an idea. Cheers.
Yup both are great and I have plenty of fan stories and a quite a few manager/owner stories. Thanks for the idea! Fantastic
@@drumteacher43 - Great. Looking forward to listening.
A successful local cover band member had an affair with a woman who was married to a prominent plastic surgeon. He found out, and in a fit of rage, pistol-whipped here face (he knew what he was doing, sadly) and then shot himself. Needless to say, the band didn’t survive the trauma and drama.
Yeah that’s pretty brutal
They were a very good band, reproducing the sound of one classic rock band. All very pro players. This incident stuck out because instead of drugs or stage egos, it was this deadly love triangle.
Yup something like that happened to a drummer that replaced me after I quit/was asked to leave a tribute band. But not as horrific violence wise. Video maybe needed for this story!!
I was at the Studio in Edmonton before it was closed down. Can't remember the band name. Anyway, the guitarist and vocalist took his guitar and almost killed the bass player by trying to hit him in the head with the guitar. Turns out that the guitarist said a joke about being blueballed? (the joke where you put your balls on a person's forehead who is passed out) to the crowd and he freaked out. Like the bass player managed to turn his head just enough so it caught him on the side and then the shoulder. Dude could have been smashed and probably killed. Holy crap. Big fight and the show was over. Turns out that this happened to the singer and this is why he was pissed off. Even funnier, the band actually made a good video about being blueballed or whatever it is called.
Wild night.
Hahaha, great story love it! I remember ( another video idea) a country band I played in and the guitarist found out on a break during the gig his wife was cheating on him with someone in the audience. Needless to say all hell broke loose. Another wild night is right!
What happened to the saying sex and drugs and rock and roll isn't that what it's all about to be in a rock and roll band or did you play some other kind of music like jazz
Still have to perform and perform well. Sex drugs and rock n roll attitude quite honestly isn’t really acceptable on most gigs as it negatively effects the music and in some cases the audience. I do however understand your comment. On tour there were more nights of the sex drugs and R and R attitude. I never had any drunken drugged up nights myself ever!!
Being in a band seems like a dysfunctional marriage.
Can be also dysfunctional family
It’s very often the case. I guess when you get a set of creative individuals to work together, like being in family together you’ll often have to take the bad with the good. Weird habits, tempers and hangups and whatnot. I also been in quite few bands (mostly as a bass player but also doing occasional vocals or percussion duties) through the years both locally and internationally and in multiple genres and settings and after a while I’ve recognised some patterns: most musicians, especially performing songwriters/composers, tend to be very precious about how they want to sound or be percieved but have an equally hard time communicating it as they’re often socially awkward, emotional, shy, self involved and not exactly the easiest of people to communicate with. Y’know, the classic ‘artist’ personality that is generally not interested in living a ‘straight’ life (having a steady job, keeping appointments etc), something I definitely sympathise with, but when the concept of personal freedom gets mistaken for just being socially irresponsible, then you’re automatically in troubled waters. The Rockn’roll lifestyle and fantasy is a very popular myth and boy does it destroy a lot of talent and careers. Being in a band can be a lot of fun so it may be hard to see it at first, but the level of self destruction because of personal insecurities one tends to tolerate in a band setting doesn’t really apply to the real world where you have to pay your bills, show up on time and generally be a reliable person to get shit done. I speak from hard fought experience when I say that this is where most bands go wrong and eventually grind to a halt proffesionaly.
These dudes you are talking about sound like complete amateurs imo ...a true pro keeps his stuff together & doesn't embarrass his bandmates. And plays 100% focused. Sounds disrespectful to you, the audience, the venue and honestly themselves (why practice and invest your life into it and then do that?...dumb)
I totally agree and to be honest this is rare most gigs I’ve done the guys were pro and on their respective games!
Drummers and musicians, lol. Aren’t drummers musicians??
Yes of course, lol I was waiting for someone to respond about that and you are the first! Congratulations. Shout out on next video!
I had to deal with bass player that did not like me on a fill in gig. was a friends cousin. was told by friend, who is a great guy. my cousin drinks a little and can get a bit rowdy. wow. right of the top ,he took real offence that I was a reg white ,man.im the most anti racist acceptable person around lol. was a long night. if I ever do gig again ,I will ask who's on bass lol
That’s brutal. Can’t say I’ve had to deal with to much racism on the gig. Giving or receiving. I’ve been lucky that way
Anyone who's played in bands their whole life and is over 40, will have plenty of stories, I wouldn't know where to begin.
@regortex3364 very true I have plenty. Stay tuned more to come.