@@HopeDust0 i thought that would be obvious since it beats strikes. i don't think i'd have to go over the fact that its a frame 1 reversal when i compared it to EX DPs
I'm a JP main and you're 100% right. It's fucked up that I'm using like 50% of his tools and I'm beating players that I can tell are better than me lol
It sucks because I think JP is, conceptually, a super cool character that pushes a lot of SF boundaries. I think if they tuned him down a bit in some egregious areas like his buttons, his zoning, and his defense, he could be a really cool Akuma-style glass cannon character. I think if they reintroduced differing health values and nerfed OD Amnesia, he could be just that, a character with exceptional offense that gets shredded when he messes up. It'd be befitting of an old man juiced up on Psycho Power.
Honestly he is already a glass cannon with exceptional offense that gets shredded when he makes a mistake. I honestly don't understand why people think OD amnesia is that powerful next to the logic of OD DP's, it's exactly the same: just block/do nothing.
@@CoolBossFights A few things, one is the high reward if they go for throw vs OD Amnesia Another thing that people don't talk about is that delayed options don't work vs OD Amnesia, since its a counter. A standard way of dealing with wakeup dp is to do your option (button, throw tech, whatever) but slightly delayed so that if they DP, you just block it and you're pressing your button while in blockstun, but that doesn't work vs Amnesia since there's no hitbox to put you in blockstun, you have to hard bait it always. Usually this aspect of counters is balanced out by them losing to throws but not this time.
@@CoolBossFights His defense as is could be definitely better, but in my opinion a character like him should be absolutely devoid of strong or even passable defensive options. Look at Dhalsim. Dhalsim also a long-ranged zoner, but unlike JP he isn't nearly as strong on offense and he is very strapped for defensive tools. If we go to Guilty Gear, we see similar situations with Asuka and Happy Chaos. Both are very strong setplay zoners who have some of the worst defense in the game: Asuka's only reversal is rarely available and kinda sucks, whereas Chaos is purely stuck with universal mechanics like abare jab or Yellow Roman Cancel to get out of pressure, and both characters have low health. A character like JP who excels where he does should get absolutely mauled if the opponent gets in. Instead, he has Amnesia, the best reversal in the game that gives him sideswitches and 50% combos.
I can't wait for the deejay vid. He is my number 1 hated character in sf6. Sonicsol did you know Deejay is the only character in the game that deletes Kens MK & LK Jinrai? When you block the first hit of Jinrai It doesn't matter if Ken follows up with a low, high or does nothing, Deejays HK uppercut can punish it from any range! He doesn't even have to use OD just regular HK uppercut! 😂
I don’t understand recent new fighting games making all the zoners cracked out of their mines with options , disjoints and their weaknesses basically being “Don’t let them play the game “. Correct me if I’m wrong but shouldn’t zoners have the weakness of bad normals , bad defs and combos not being too long . But as of recently with some new games and strive most zoners don’t have these flaws. I’m just saying it seems odd but yea good video and as soon as I saw this man’s set play from beta I knew he was gonna be a menace . P.S that intro is the birth of villain with that laugh but really funny clips
@5:34 it's worth noting that st. hp (pc) with JP results in dr xx st. hp again, you don't need to drive rush as a buffer. You just hitconfirm the punish counter st. hp into a parry drive rush into st. hp again.
A lesson from every fighting game in history; The worst decisions hav always been giving zoners or characters with high ability to zone the ability to set play. Sf4 Sagat,
Dealing with Luke is slight of a problem but I will manage to get by him if possible, Dealing with Ken is more of a problem but I can still get by if my opponent makes a mistake, but JP on the other hand is on a whole new different level with all of his zoning BS.
Nu-13 gave me PTSD so bad in BlazBlaz Calamity Trigger that JP's stuff just makes me laugh out in a bout of madness. All this dude is missing is a gravity well that impedes movement and a dive kick with a disjointed hitbox. I used to call him Just Pimpin'. Now he's Just Privileged.
I've been saying since day 1 this character is a problem, not just because he's a zoner but because of all the unnecessary tools they let him have like the disjointed normals and the frame 1 reversal that can lead to 70%. Really loving these in-depth videos, keep up the good work my man
Historically, for characters that are overtuned, they would give that character less hitpoints. For a character designed to keep people on the other side of the screen, they should have given him 8500 life instead of the base 10000 life like most of the cast.
The thing is, JP has EVERYTHING. C.grab, fbs, fb feint, disjointed hurtbox, air grab, great jump buttons, overhead, high/low and left right mix up, damage, life, invincible reversal. Wait, he doesn't have a dive kick ! So he is balanced right ? 😂
Another banger sonic. As a frequent watcher of ur streams you have so much fun playing with these characters (luke, ken, jp) i love ur content n i wish nothing but blessings n good juju on you my brotha stay up i love you
JP is the only character where, when I lose, instead of just thinking "I coulda done this" or "I should train up a bit," instead I just feel his ghost thing grab my soul and make me turn off the game for a bit.
@@hagbardceline711 Are you for real? It's a long sentence, sure. JP makes me feel like his stupid ghost grab thing is taking my soul out, and I often turn off the game. Instead of, you know, training or learning the matchup more.
Amnesia is such an FU move. It's already a massive chore to get in on him. But even if somehow you do manage to get in, you still have to guess and it's not even as straightforward as baiting an OD DP.
All the advantages of being a zoner, NONE of the disadvantages. Terribly balanced character. Outside of Amnesia, the disjoints need to be toned down. It's ridiculous you cannot play footsies against this guy because his weapon cannot be hit.
Man this videos you do are great to study the game. I watched the one you did on Ken and got to play with him. I got two winning streaks of 14 wins. Great videos man.
I will say that even with the state of jp I’m glad capcom had the balls to leave balancing untouched for all this time to let players really grind and figure out matchups
Lol im not using JP correctly is what i learned here, i came from playing manon where shes like 80% neutral, and i tried to apply that to JP. i been using JP too honest lol im not using him to his full potential 🤣
I don't get people who disconnect when they lose the last round, if they hate JP they might as well just DC round 1. I like this type of content BTW keep it up!
Cause it first it's probably and opportunity for them to shit on a JP and feel good about it, then when they see their plan didn't work, they rage quit lol But honestly, JP is def in the wrong game, should've been part of MK1 roster instead
The downside of amnesia is it's only a strong reversal against throw. It doesn't provide any value against jab and most meaty mediums. Meanwhile every DP reversal (while you said 1500, it's actually closer to 2000 because it's punish counter bonus damage) will work against ALL buttons, some even including neutral jump. While I could agree that nerfing amnesia in some way could make some people happier, it'd probably leave JP among the top of the tier list simply because it's just not as safe as most other reversals. If it's used in midscreen to interrupt, you reset back to neutral and do 0 damage for burning 2 bars because of the backstep. If you use it in the corner and guess right, if the button was meaty, you can be grabbed and take 1200 damage and lose 2 bars, if it was a heavy, you might be +4 to land a cr. jab. The value for amnesia is both absurdly high and absurdly low, but everyone complaining about it only ever acknowledges the high when it is done against throw. I can agree that JP does have overall a lot of damage, his combos easily reach 3k regularly with only ever burning 2 or 3 bars so the reward is much higher. The downsides is he has some of the worst medium startups (no 6 frame like Ken or Luke) and most of his special cancels are DI punishable unless he burns 2 bars to make them safe. I do agree JP is one of the stronger characters, his worst matchups are really only Kim, Juri, and Cammy. The massive poke means he can stall out or snipe Hondas and Blankas and the range on his buttons allows him to check most drive rushes like Luke, Ken, or Ryu. He has a really solid defense that is propped up with some horrible punish situations. Anyone with a heavy that moves them forward (e.g. Luke Heavy Kick or Jaimie heavy kick). The only other thing I agree with is he has really strong setplay; however this just seems to be universal among the stronger characters. Juri, Luke, Cammy, Ryu, Ken all have insane corner carry that leaves them plus and able to force a mixup that they can loop back onto for another guess whether it's an overhead guess, safe jump, throw loop, shimmy punish, and so on. I don't know if it'd be better to nerf his special damage or make his EX moves scale the next hit by 10% instead of 0%. Possibly just separating character health more and making him a 9500 or 9250 could be enough. I just think people over focus on throw punish amnesia for all the other strengths he has with poke and high damage conversions. Other thing I could think would be interesting nerf is remove the ability to summon portal or command grab while amnesia bombs are live.
I kinda see what ur saying with amnesia, however the low isn’t really that low. Even if you get NO damage from it, you can completely shift momentum in your favor and even put your opponent in the corner. That is still a great reward
@Rippies @Rippies Hello, friend said everything, very well explained. In what position would you be JP. Even though he's one of the characters in the game, do you still think he would be an S Tier? Would Dee Jay be stronger than JP?
Greatest vids. I been playing SF over 20 yrs, this is the 1st in series that within month after release roster felt crazy unbalanced with a great concept not well executed (DR) mechanic and worst of all moves input displayed on screen that don't come out in the heat of battle.
I don’t think this game is unbalanced. DR is something you have to figure out just like any other sf mechanic. I don’t know who you play, but I definitely don’t feel the game is that crazy
14:45 I again, cant understand the complaint of your dive kick having a counter. Its like, yeah, most things in this game are balanced through hit/hurtboxes. Like me for example. Every time someone crosses me up as gief and lariat doesn’t hit is like, “yep”. But I understand the balancing behind that.
It's not just that it has a counter many characters can beat dive kick with horizontal normals, but JP's is arguably the strongest because it's his main poke in neutral anyways. Most characters have to choose a normal that they would only throw out to react to divekick and his reward is also way higher than most characters for less resources. Most characters need to do a DRC or spend super to get that kind of damage JP gets from a simple anti air juggle.
Most JP players don't use half of the stuff you detailed in your videos. Of the three kings in JP, Ken and Luke, I have the easiest time with JP in Master Rank with my Ryu. You are right SonicSol. If you just nerfed OD Amnesia, he can keep the rest of his stuff. He annoys me the least out of the three. Once you get in on JP, you shouldn't have to worry about that nonsense.
Meanwhile, Lets take away Kim honest reversal and nerf her because she has good offense and nothing else. Unlike the rest of the cast, We all know JP, Juri and Blanka are horrible in offense, right?
You need to almost get lucky against him ... even knowing the matchup. I play guile, ryu & ken imo ken does good against him. But I feel more comfortable with ryu because of full screen Tatsu going through alot of his projectiles. Guile I struggle alot against jp especially if full screen.
JP is fine to me. I can beat almost every JP on master with relative ease. Cammy, on the other hand, is my demon lol. Been getting my ass kicked by the scrubiest cammy players
Your videos are very informative ! I am a full beginner on vsfighting and I think since the beginning this character is not a SF Character. In my opinion , this character must be erase of this game. Because noob like me can stop this game because JP exist.
Nerf amnesia and have it not produce the stupid spike balls. The purpose of that EX move is to escape pressure. Not escape while simultaneously reversing pressure.
Even if you make it so that they disappear on hit, throw into amnesia is already punish counter. You're still getting the combo. They should increase the scaling as well. They should remove the proximity block mostly proximity block is awful and shouldn't be in any game and also because it let's you walk back to avoid a mixup.
I decided to try him out the other day. Got him to Master in 2 sessions. For reference, he was my fifth Master rank character, so I like to think I'm OK at the game. I don't even know what I was even doing most of the time. I did a few setups and some anti airs and I was just suddenly Master lol. This character cheap.
Lol..a few setups and some anti airs and boom - Master. I like that, but realistically, if this is the 5th character you got to Master you're probably a beast. Who's your main?
od amnesia is overrated. 20 blocks and its super good in 1 but bad in 19. take 1 step with jp and amnesia CANNOT combo/hit. hes the only character with a reversal that neutral jump beats both throw and reversal. if his reversal was a dp he would be better 90% of the time. his od amnesia corner combo is a video bait. without that corner combo his amnesia wouldnt have any spotlight.
Ngl I think your conclusion on drive rush (in your flaws video) was kinda braindead and I think more generally you have this weird perspective on what is "smart" and what is scrubby. But you explain your points well even if I disagree, and I gotta respect the energy in your stuff.
@@SonicSol Extend the hurtbox during drive rush and have inputs stored during the freeze to occur afterwards and DR is completely fine. I think the only bullshit from drive rush is that checking drive rush is super inconsistent, I think even Juri's braindead fireball into DR s.MP would be completely fine if checking it with s.MK pre-emptively wasn't so inconsistent. They might've had the "DR freeze buffer" early in development, but maybe it made DR too easy to check (just mash your fastest button during the screen freeze).
@@evilweevle That's true but Akuma is a different beast. Capcom knows how popular he is and he has a strong record of being broken in his season 1 form 😂
If JP was winning every tournament major. I would be convinced by this video! Fact is he didn’t even get top 25 or 16 in two majors in a row! And being destroyed all the time. I think top players figured him out.
lol he talking about the set play jp gets for free playing on mid to footsie range, and my mind going for the offline tournament i went these days that a jp literrally won using that and the ex amnesia. never a tournament made me realize how good a character is like this one. in the same tournament i got eliminated by a deejay spamming drive rush and sweep. i thought my character had the best dr (juri) than i realized that the mf was fucking teleporting towards me ahuahahahahaha
A lesson from every fighting game in history; The worst decisions hav always been giving zoners or characters with high ability to zone the ability to set play. Sf4 Sagat,
It’s a problem in netherrealm games and smash too. These incredible zoners have amazing wakeup and mixup options so… it’s not really a zoner anymore it’s an all around extremely strong character
Let me know how you've been enjoying these style of videos down below as well as anything I missed on JP.
Sadly you didnt talked about that Amnesia still comes out on safejump, while every other character gets punished but he gets offense.
@@HopeDust0 i thought that would be obvious since it beats strikes. i don't think i'd have to go over the fact that its a frame 1 reversal when i compared it to EX DPs
Back mp is a little disjointed too, a frame trap target
I actually fucking enjoyed the compilation at the beginning of the video, you should do more of those, and nice editing
I really loved the intro! Shows that you’re really about it and know the character before the breakdown. Straight demon time on those clips
I'm a JP main and you're 100% right. It's fucked up that I'm using like 50% of his tools and I'm beating players that I can tell are better than me lol
This intro is so awesome
Do you want to hear how this ends? In... COMMUNICATION ERROR
Man dropping banger character guides under the guise of calling out broken characters
It sucks because I think JP is, conceptually, a super cool character that pushes a lot of SF boundaries. I think if they tuned him down a bit in some egregious areas like his buttons, his zoning, and his defense, he could be a really cool Akuma-style glass cannon character. I think if they reintroduced differing health values and nerfed OD Amnesia, he could be just that, a character with exceptional offense that gets shredded when he messes up. It'd be befitting of an old man juiced up on Psycho Power.
Honestly he is already a glass cannon with exceptional offense that gets shredded when he makes a mistake.
I honestly don't understand why people think OD amnesia is that powerful next to the logic of OD DP's, it's exactly the same: just block/do nothing.
@rickpeters8204 That's what I'm saying! And plus a lot of his moves are super slow and Hella reactable
@@CoolBossFights It's because he can do a 50% combo or mixup if his DP lands.
@@CoolBossFights A few things, one is the high reward if they go for throw vs OD Amnesia
Another thing that people don't talk about is that delayed options don't work vs OD Amnesia, since its a counter. A standard way of dealing with wakeup dp is to do your option (button, throw tech, whatever) but slightly delayed so that if they DP, you just block it and you're pressing your button while in blockstun, but that doesn't work vs Amnesia since there's no hitbox to put you in blockstun, you have to hard bait it always. Usually this aspect of counters is balanced out by them losing to throws but not this time.
@@CoolBossFights His defense as is could be definitely better, but in my opinion a character like him should be absolutely devoid of strong or even passable defensive options. Look at Dhalsim. Dhalsim also a long-ranged zoner, but unlike JP he isn't nearly as strong on offense and he is very strapped for defensive tools. If we go to Guilty Gear, we see similar situations with Asuka and Happy Chaos. Both are very strong setplay zoners who have some of the worst defense in the game: Asuka's only reversal is rarely available and kinda sucks, whereas Chaos is purely stuck with universal mechanics like abare jab or Yellow Roman Cancel to get out of pressure, and both characters have low health. A character like JP who excels where he does should get absolutely mauled if the opponent gets in. Instead, he has Amnesia, the best reversal in the game that gives him sideswitches and 50% combos.
I can't wait for the deejay vid. He is my number 1 hated character in sf6. Sonicsol did you know Deejay is the only character in the game that deletes Kens MK & LK Jinrai? When you block the first hit of Jinrai It doesn't matter if Ken follows up with a low, high or does nothing, Deejays HK uppercut can punish it from any range! He doesn't even have to use OD just regular HK uppercut! 😂
I don’t understand recent new fighting games making all the zoners cracked out of their mines with options , disjoints and their weaknesses basically being “Don’t let them play the game “. Correct me if I’m wrong but shouldn’t zoners have the weakness of bad normals , bad defs and combos not being too long . But as of recently with some new games and strive most zoners don’t have these flaws. I’m just saying it seems odd but yea good video and as soon as I saw this man’s set play from beta I knew he was gonna be a menace .
P.S that intro is the birth of villain with that laugh but really funny clips
@5:34 it's worth noting that st. hp (pc) with JP results in dr xx st. hp again, you don't need to drive rush as a buffer. You just hitconfirm the punish counter st. hp into a parry drive rush into st. hp again.
A lesson from every fighting game in history; The worst decisions hav always been giving zoners or characters with high ability to zone the ability to set play.
Sf4 Sagat,
Dealing with Luke is slight of a problem but I will manage to get by him if possible, Dealing with Ken is more of a problem but I can still get by if my opponent makes a mistake, but JP on the other hand is on a whole new different level with all of his zoning BS.
Nu-13 gave me PTSD so bad in BlazBlaz Calamity Trigger that JP's stuff just makes me laugh out in a bout of madness.
All this dude is missing is a gravity well that impedes movement and a dive kick with a disjointed hitbox. I used to call him Just Pimpin'. Now he's Just Privileged.
What an excellent video! You've got great character and game knowledge and your commentary was spot on.
Thank you kindly!
I've been saying since day 1 this character is a problem, not just because he's a zoner but because of all the unnecessary tools they let him have like the disjointed normals and the frame 1 reversal that can lead to 70%. Really loving these in-depth videos, keep up the good work my man
Just play Ken bro.(it's a joke ok? plz don't kill me)
I remember week 2 everyone saying Jp was trash 😂
I really thought week 1 Deejay was going to be number 1 broken as hell
The one thing that needs to be addressed is amnesia . I think only addressing this keeps him strong but fair as a top/high tier
Historically, for characters that are overtuned, they would give that character less hitpoints. For a character designed to keep people on the other side of the screen, they should have given him 8500 life instead of the base 10000 life like most of the cast.
Another great video! Looking forward to the Dee Jay one lmao.
Coming soon!
@@SonicSolalso looking forward to this vid haha
It’s actually an amazing JP guide disguised as a complaint.
This video is 20 minutes longer than the ones for luke and ken 🤣
The thing is, JP has EVERYTHING. C.grab, fbs, fb feint, disjointed hurtbox, air grab, great jump buttons, overhead, high/low and left right mix up, damage, life, invincible reversal. Wait, he doesn't have a dive kick ! So he is balanced right ? 😂
@@hagbardceline711 oh don't get me wrong : I enjoy this MU a lot. Doesn't make JP more honest.
@@hagbardceline711 "FGC community" ok bro
Another banger sonic. As a frequent watcher of ur streams you have so much fun playing with these characters (luke, ken, jp) i love ur content n i wish nothing but blessings n good juju on you my brotha stay up i love you
Much appreciated!
I feel like I always walk away from a sonic sol video informed. Big preesh mane
JP is an actual cancer in this game. Like seriously. No joking around, he is a literal cancer in this current iteration of SF6.
I love how he turns more evil the more he plays jp
They would never give Bison a air grab and a overhead
Absolutely cannot wait to see Akuma or the rest of the cast.
When we get a roster of like 30+ characters down the line the game is going to be sooooo good
Without Akuma this game feels like a Demo to me
Remove the ghost faint, add hurtboxes to his cane, make amnesia throwable, and limit normal’s ability to juggle without DR.
That should do it
My man’s making me want to play JP but my pride says no
JP is the only character where, when I lose, instead of just thinking "I coulda done this" or "I should train up a bit," instead I just feel his ghost thing grab my soul and make me turn off the game for a bit.
@@hagbardceline711
Are you for real? It's a long sentence, sure.
JP makes me feel like his stupid ghost grab thing is taking my soul out, and I often turn off the game.
Instead of, you know, training or learning the matchup more.
bro was really feelin the power in those ranked matches 💀
Amnesia is such an FU move. It's already a massive chore to get in on him. But even if somehow you do manage to get in, you still have to guess and it's not even as straightforward as baiting an OD DP.
Respect your opinions but I honestly don't wanna see any nerfs
Jp's reversal is more like a wake up super that costs only 2 drive bars instead of 2 sa bars
All the advantages of being a zoner, NONE of the disadvantages.
Terribly balanced character.
Outside of Amnesia, the disjoints need to be toned down. It's ridiculous you cannot play footsies against this guy because his weapon cannot be hit.
i really like the sonic sol evil laugh, when he is using JP
Man this videos you do are great to study the game. I watched the one you did on Ken and got to play with him. I got two winning streaks of 14 wins. Great videos man.
*JP* "now, observe my spamming" Lol
Emulating that choke is high grade demon energy LMAO
Off a wakeup amnesia he can get anywhere from a 30-60% combo based on how much meter you have… every other character gets 15%💀
I thought you were not gonna talk about the air grab.
I was giggling why the fact he has a air grab. This player make no sense.
Good FUCKING video Sol!!! Keep the analyses comin!
Didn't 2 or 3 other channels release this SAME video within the last 2 or 3 days and more in depth. We know why JP is good fam.
You are preaching straight gospel brother. Keep doing the lord’s work. Can’t wait for the balance patch.
Let us remember S1 JP in 3 months RIP
Brother you legit made me wanna play jp now. He reminds me a lot of rose in sv5 who I used to main.
I will say that even with the state of jp I’m glad capcom had the balls to leave balancing untouched for all this time to let players really grind and figure out matchups
This gives good awareness to people. Keep it up!
Lol im not using JP correctly is what i learned here, i came from playing manon where shes like 80% neutral, and i tried to apply that to JP. i been using JP too honest lol im not using him to his full potential 🤣
I don't get people who disconnect when they lose the last round, if they hate JP they might as well just DC round 1. I like this type of content BTW keep it up!
Cause it first it's probably and opportunity for them to shit on a JP and feel good about it, then when they see their plan didn't work, they rage quit lol But honestly, JP is def in the wrong game, should've been part of MK1 roster instead
can’t wait for the dee jay one 😂 (ima deejay main) i love these vids 🔥👍🏾
The downside of amnesia is it's only a strong reversal against throw. It doesn't provide any value against jab and most meaty mediums. Meanwhile every DP reversal (while you said 1500, it's actually closer to 2000 because it's punish counter bonus damage) will work against ALL buttons, some even including neutral jump. While I could agree that nerfing amnesia in some way could make some people happier, it'd probably leave JP among the top of the tier list simply because it's just not as safe as most other reversals. If it's used in midscreen to interrupt, you reset back to neutral and do 0 damage for burning 2 bars because of the backstep. If you use it in the corner and guess right, if the button was meaty, you can be grabbed and take 1200 damage and lose 2 bars, if it was a heavy, you might be +4 to land a cr. jab. The value for amnesia is both absurdly high and absurdly low, but everyone complaining about it only ever acknowledges the high when it is done against throw.
I can agree that JP does have overall a lot of damage, his combos easily reach 3k regularly with only ever burning 2 or 3 bars so the reward is much higher. The downsides is he has some of the worst medium startups (no 6 frame like Ken or Luke) and most of his special cancels are DI punishable unless he burns 2 bars to make them safe.
I do agree JP is one of the stronger characters, his worst matchups are really only Kim, Juri, and Cammy. The massive poke means he can stall out or snipe Hondas and Blankas and the range on his buttons allows him to check most drive rushes like Luke, Ken, or Ryu. He has a really solid defense that is propped up with some horrible punish situations. Anyone with a heavy that moves them forward (e.g. Luke Heavy Kick or Jaimie heavy kick).
The only other thing I agree with is he has really strong setplay; however this just seems to be universal among the stronger characters. Juri, Luke, Cammy, Ryu, Ken all have insane corner carry that leaves them plus and able to force a mixup that they can loop back onto for another guess whether it's an overhead guess, safe jump, throw loop, shimmy punish, and so on.
I don't know if it'd be better to nerf his special damage or make his EX moves scale the next hit by 10% instead of 0%. Possibly just separating character health more and making him a 9500 or 9250 could be enough. I just think people over focus on throw punish amnesia for all the other strengths he has with poke and high damage conversions. Other thing I could think would be interesting nerf is remove the ability to summon portal or command grab while amnesia bombs are live.
I kinda see what ur saying with amnesia, however the low isn’t really that low. Even if you get NO damage from it, you can completely shift momentum in your favor and even put your opponent in the corner. That is still a great reward
*FINALLY!!* I think I found it. It will be?!
@Rippies @Rippies Hello, friend said everything, very well explained. In what position would you be JP. Even though he's one of the characters in the game, do you still think he would be an S Tier? Would Dee Jay be stronger than JP?
Greatest vids. I been playing SF over 20 yrs, this is the 1st in series that within month after release roster felt crazy unbalanced with a great concept not well executed (DR) mechanic and worst of all moves input displayed on screen that don't come out in the heat of battle.
really? more unbalanced than vanilla sf4 lol
I don’t think this game is unbalanced. DR is something you have to figure out just like any other sf mechanic. I don’t know who you play, but I definitely don’t feel the game is that crazy
Literally the most balanced SF game on launch to date but okay my guy
The most satisfying I ever fight with JP is double perfect him and not doing a rematch. Lol
lol this a character guide to me😂 thanks so much sol
14:45 I again, cant understand the complaint of your dive kick having a counter. Its like, yeah, most things in this game are balanced through hit/hurtboxes. Like me for example. Every time someone crosses me up as gief and lariat doesn’t hit is like, “yep”. But I understand the balancing behind that.
It's not just that it has a counter many characters can beat dive kick with horizontal normals, but JP's is arguably the strongest because it's his main poke in neutral anyways. Most characters have to choose a normal that they would only throw out to react to divekick and his reward is also way higher than most characters for less resources. Most characters need to do a DRC or spend super to get that kind of damage JP gets from a simple anti air juggle.
Most JP players don't use half of the stuff you detailed in your videos. Of the three kings in JP, Ken and Luke, I have the easiest time with JP in Master Rank with my Ryu. You are right SonicSol. If you just nerfed OD Amnesia, he can keep the rest of his stuff. He annoys me the least out of the three. Once you get in on JP, you shouldn't have to worry about that nonsense.
Same. I have a Master Ryu as well, and I usually go 50/50 against JP. I actually dread Ken, Dee Jay, Sim, and an attack happy Cammy more.
Meanwhile, Lets take away Kim honest reversal and nerf her because she has good offense and nothing else. Unlike the rest of the cast, We all know JP, Juri and Blanka are horrible in offense, right?
You need to almost get lucky against him ... even knowing the matchup. I play guile, ryu & ken imo ken does good against him. But I feel more comfortable with ryu because of full screen Tatsu going through alot of his projectiles.
Guile I struggle alot against jp especially if full screen.
This video is so funny lol i learned more stuff actually and i use JP and Manon. Thanks Sonic lol
HE DID IT LET’S GOOOOOOOO
I want Sonic to make a vid like this but on a Low Tier character. Watch it be like 5-8 mins max. Meanwhile this JP vid 30 whole minutes.😂😂
JP is fine to me. I can beat almost every JP on master with relative ease.
Cammy, on the other hand, is my demon lol. Been getting my ass kicked by the scrubiest cammy players
solid content
Your videos are very informative !
I am a full beginner on vsfighting and I think since the beginning this character is not a SF Character.
In my opinion , this character must be erase of this game. Because noob like me can stop this game because JP exist.
Are you gonna do a "why X character is low tier" series?
I wanna see videos for the low tiers too.
Song list?
(The one in the intro sounds familiar but idk what it’s from)
I only used two songs. Phantasy star online and final destination ssbm
@@SonicSolThanks homie🙏🏽
@@SonicSolwhich one is from Pantasy star?
@@The_WIll_OF_D99The first one (Idola the Fanatic Viper from Phantasy Star Online)
lol 😂 wow I didn’t even know he had a air grab lol 😂
Nerf amnesia and have it not produce the stupid spike balls. The purpose of that EX move is to escape pressure. Not escape while simultaneously reversing pressure.
Shadow wizard money gang is too op
Even if you make it so that they disappear on hit, throw into amnesia is already punish counter. You're still getting the combo. They should increase the scaling as well. They should remove the proximity block mostly proximity block is awful and shouldn't be in any game and also because it let's you walk back to avoid a mixup.
Sol why do JP players downplay their character so much?
I decided to try him out the other day. Got him to Master in 2 sessions. For reference, he was my fifth Master rank character, so I like to think I'm OK at the game. I don't even know what I was even doing most of the time. I did a few setups and some anti airs and I was just suddenly Master lol. This character cheap.
Lol..a few setups and some anti airs and boom - Master. I like that, but realistically, if this is the 5th character you got to Master you're probably a beast. Who's your main?
@@azarel7 Rashid. By the average SF6 player's standards, I'd be pretty good, but I'm about average around 1500-1600 MR
Man, the villain arc started already? This wasn't supposed to be for another month 😂
I think the main problem with jp is the deive damage he does on block. Its stupid.
Do lily next
Oh nah my man pulled out a cane on camera! You trolling 😂
Sonicsol your videos are very informative and all but can you pls do the right combos?😀🙏🙏🤗
od amnesia is overrated. 20 blocks and its super good in 1 but bad in 19. take 1 step with jp and amnesia CANNOT combo/hit. hes the only character with a reversal that neutral jump beats both throw and reversal.
if his reversal was a dp he would be better 90% of the time. his od amnesia corner combo is a video bait. without that corner combo his amnesia wouldnt have any spotlight.
Great vid. I’ve really grown to hate this character over time. Just not fun to play against.
Ngl I think your conclusion on drive rush (in your flaws video) was kinda braindead and I think more generally you have this weird perspective on what is "smart" and what is scrubby. But you explain your points well even if I disagree, and I gotta respect the energy in your stuff.
Drive rush is actually dumb tho 😒
@@SonicSol Extend the hurtbox during drive rush and have inputs stored during the freeze to occur afterwards and DR is completely fine. I think the only bullshit from drive rush is that checking drive rush is super inconsistent, I think even Juri's braindead fireball into DR s.MP would be completely fine if checking it with s.MK pre-emptively wasn't so inconsistent. They might've had the "DR freeze buffer" early in development, but maybe it made DR too easy to check (just mash your fastest button during the screen freeze).
This is Sol's villian arc.
JPeak 🔥
Glad I'm not the only one raging about him. But let's remove Kimberly's arms and legs she's too much.
It's all good though, when akuma comes out, he's gonna shit all over jp.
Im like 99% certain people said that about Rashid and also AKI when the reveal trailers dropped.
@@evilweevle That's true but Akuma is a different beast. Capcom knows how popular he is and he has a strong record of being broken in his season 1 form 😂
If JP was winning every tournament major.
I would be convinced by this video!
Fact is he didn’t even get top 25 or 16 in two majors in a row!
And being destroyed all the time.
I think top players figured him out.
Early gang
Wait ur having fun?! Jp is ur main than lol
His jabs insane and I actually have more fun playing him than Ken and im a cammy main
Lol this is so disgusting
At 2:15 that was soooooooo dirty! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Amazing video. Capcom gon learn today! Question. If they fix all this sh*t (probably won't all happen) what game are you going to fix next?
lol he talking about the set play jp gets for free playing on mid to footsie range, and my mind going for the offline tournament i went these days that a jp literrally won using that and the ex amnesia. never a tournament made me realize how good a character is like this one. in the same tournament i got eliminated by a deejay spamming drive rush and sweep. i thought my character had the best dr (juri) than i realized that the mf was fucking teleporting towards me ahuahahahahaha
A lesson from every fighting game in history; The worst decisions hav always been giving zoners or characters with high ability to zone the ability to set play.
Sf4 Sagat,
It’s a problem in netherrealm games and smash too. These incredible zoners have amazing wakeup and mixup options so… it’s not really a zoner anymore it’s an all around extremely strong character
tiger shot! tiger shot! tiger shot! oh he jumped! heavy kick -> ultra (no fadc)