Joker vs Wonder - Persona 5: The Phantom X
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ม.ค. 2024
- Joker vs Wonder cutscene at the start of the game in Persona 5: The Phantom X
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?? WHAT ARE THEY COOKING
IKR LIKE WHAAAAT
That cutscene was badass!!!
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I can't believe they did joker like this got clowned by wonder
Joker: HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS GODDAMN TUTORIAL STAGE!
How does Sae maintain her sanity with all these people screwing around in her subconscious.
Oh boy. Don't let Akechi find out that Joker is having another rivalry with someone who isn't him
maby he saw him and think he was bad guy and so he had to step in and stop joker when joker was on the casino palace also Akechi might knew something was wrong and did not have time to stop him and he might got it like joker did?
bro's going to have another transformation
akechi: you know other men???
Oh dear... 🤭
" Joker, who's that Wonder guy ?!"
That day is busy as hell lmao
* Have to pull off the heist which canonically requires Joker to do the entire infiltration from the ground up including a boss fight
* Having to put the plan to betray Akechi before he betrays them into motion
* The entire Sumire subplot
* And now a fight with another Persona protagonist
"The 3rd time I'm doing this but held by a gunpoint this early is new."
this is so funny no way this new guy beats joker but either way wether its a dream or not the whole thing of persona 5 x is just a big cognition it isnt real
@@tekred2828 not sure but I heard Persona 5 X take place in alternate universe of Shibuya
The mobile game has the best fight choreography in the entire persona series, the animes don't even come close and that's hilarious
I raise you Persona 5 Tactica’s final fight sequence! I really think that was up there with the best choreographed fight in Persona.
@@Crimson_Knight004I'll admit i didn't see it, gotta watch it sometime
I think it might end up being on steam too, like Mega Man X Dive
Sucks it’s only in Japan
@@noodlyz If I'm not wrong. developer of this game was from China, although Atlus also has involvement in it.
Seeing Joker do up close quarters Knife Comat with another Knife wielder is something i never knew i needed
check out Strikers
What do you mean 'close'? Joker got obliterated in this fight
@@Baron0009close quarters
@@Baron0009naw I’d say it was pretty even until the end
@@Baron0009 bro it was a dream we all know joker would have obliterated that wanna be fusion of joker and robin hood
Loved the close fighting, something we don't see a lot in Persona cutscenes.
Kind of refreshing to have a physical brawl rather than using Personas as stand-ins. The fact Wonder uses his grappling hook as a supplementary weapon displays his resourcefulness, though using a different mask might be another way to camouflage himself.
@@vanessachowjiaying4423 I think the only other time we see this is in the P4G Anime.
This actually reminds me at how I need a Persona anime with actual fighting choreography. None of the anime series adaptations we’ve seen so far have THIS much physical and close shots fighting. I love how they actually utilizes their weapons and the environments around them, and this is without their Personas
I get it’s harder to do in 2D than 3D, but I’d love to see it either way. The storyboarder does a fantastic job in this
have you seen Q2? that was epic seeing joker go against Yu, using only his (toy) gun and knife, against a guy with a real sword.
I agree, since the PQ2 cutscene where Joker Fights Yu I'm always willing to see more like that
Couple things Ive noticed:
1. Wonder has a white mask, every time we saw Wonder till this point, He has always had a red mask.
2. This appears to either be a vision or a dream
3. The Wonder fiighting Joker seems to be a different Wonder than we know
I didn't catch that, maybe their doing a Shallot and Giblet approach in Dragon Ball Legends in P5X?
in one of the phantom x pictures of wonder, the right side of his mask is red, while the left side is white woah
@@alyssarasmussen1723 Other than in this video, I've only seen Wonder with his red mask. When it comes to his mask, it's all red and the only white part is the reflection not half the mask being white. As you said, woah
@@awkwardlyice1788 woah
@@alyssarasmussen1723 woah indeed, hope you a good nice
atlus will always find a way to reuse this fucking casino cutscene for something its so funny
ok that 1v1 was actually cool tho i can forgive it
That whole fight between joker and wonder is crazy
How many teenagers hid inside this lawyer's mind?!
Sae Palace is a open door at this point
Many teenagers would like to "hide" inside Sae Nijiima...
.....
@@samus88 How many teenagers wouldn't, is a more realistic question.
equal to how many gatcha they spew out.
Imagine Persona 6 with these cutscene sequences, cuz they are cookin with this🧑🏼🍳
P6 is going to use the quality of P3R tho.
So wonder was dreaming of fighting with joker and probably has the same dream everytime until he awoken to his persona. But I still don't know why he's dreaming about joker and why they both are probably connected to each other somehow
considering he has a connection to the Sea of Souls, a very old concept in Persona series since Persona 1, it is most likely his soul is linked to Joker's soul some how so he is getting visions of what will happen in the future due to their destiny crossing paths or events that had already happened but he cannot remember them.
@orrthehunter interesting I love when everything related to collective unsciousness and persona psychology Carl Jung theory coming into play with this series and that is why I love This series
We don't really know but Wonder seems to be set up as the anti Joker as his background, life and even persona is the opposite of Joker.
@@orrthehunterIt's confirmed to be a battle that breaks time and space as the game's message puts it. Wonder's world is also confirmed to be an AU.
@@sparktwochristopher7240 Ya, I comment a bit on that part in my other comment for this video being the Story is going down the Parallel story scenario where both stories are happening at the sametime. Joker got his P5 story in his Universe while Wonder got his for his P5X universe but Joker's actions with jumping into P5X universe seems to be leading to that change in P5 story we see here in this Prologue.
While P5 is happening, P5X is happening. The moments when Joker appears in P5X world are most likely like Side quest moments for Joker in his P5 world where he enters P5X world to do certain things that would lead down to a new Scenario different at a certain point in P5 side of the story. We are just looking at things from the P5X side of the story.
However, this leaves a lot of questions about why will Joker choose to interfere in P5X Universe and what God is causing these events for P5 Universe to be crossing with P5X Universe.
For starters, seeing a fight primarily exclusively with melee weapons is cool and something not to often seen in this series. But more importantly, trying to take down my boy in combat, especially during one of the most important portions of 5's story? Who does Wonder think he is
Good thing its a dream then
Good thing its a dream then
Are people not seeing how this (possibly) Fake Wonder managed to steal/seal Joker's Persona?
@@sparktwochristopher7240more like sealed because then he would have used Potentially arsene himself
I have never seen a mobile game so detailed this is crazy honestly
then I recommend you check out some stuff by Hoyoverse, like Honkai star rail and the upcoming Zenless Zone Zero
Hoyoverse games does this a lot (arguably, even better) and also, some gacha games such as blue archive etc...
First time? Mobile games detail are carzy nowdays bro
Phone nowadays are far more powerful than Switch
P5R could literally perform way better on a phone than a nintendoswitch with better graphics too if it was ported natively (something that will never happen because it would be loss of money) but 100% possible
Joker didn't really lose here, he definitely showed a higher skill level, he only "lost" when he pulled out his persona ability something that Wonder took advantage of with his unique stealing ability which caught Joker by surprise.
Yeah I wonder what that was about? Is it some kind of special power that only he has like, Akechi and his own psychotic powers, or what?
wonder seems cool and all but i dont want joker to be beat by him
@@goonballoon Well to be fair Joker has “died” before, and look how well that went for his killer.
The stealing thing kinda resembles Soul Drain, so this might be how that move actually looks and works in-universe. As opposed to it just taking SP in gameplay, it actually drains something being used and takes it from the user or something like that
DAMN IT! Now i just want a P5 fighting game.
We have AU
@@IceBr8kr Oh yeah all the P5 characters are there. Such as.....
@@markx2231I mean, there's a song called The Joker...
@@markx2231 I would say the game is still an investment, but the player count is pretty much down to just the arc sys fans. If you're a fan of guilty gear or blazblue (not cross tag), then you'll be right at home
We kinda have a beat em up named Persona 5 Strikers
Interesting here that Wonder is not wearing his red shades mask, but here instead has a rounded porcelain mask. Hmmm. Also that final walk up, held tilt upwards, and grin before the gunshot is totally referencing THAT game over scene with Akechi.
Joker: "If i had a nickel for everytime i had to redo a tutorial i woukd have 3 nickels, which isnt munch but it's weird that happened thrice" (ignoring when you reach the tutorial point in the story)
Damn wonder stole akechi's kill what a bad ass
More like Wonder stole what Akechi would want to dream lol
@@talos0201Akechi must be fuming. He went through all the trouble of finding the Phantom Theives’ identities and befriending Joker, just for some random Persona user to steal his kill.
you kidding me? wonder is lame asf
No way he can beat joker
Well... It's a dream. If it's a premonition, Wonder needs the best Gacha and stat build.
I mean Yu Narukami did pretty well against Joker in their encounter in Persona Q2. So I don't think Wonder who is also a Phantom Thief like Persona user, could not keep up with Sae Palace era Joker.
@@EdgardoJCruz-dk5kvJoker and Yu had alooooot of experience. Wonder is a rookie.
@@EdgardoJCruz-dk5kvJoker didn’t even use his dagger then as well sooooo
@@EdgardoJCruz-dk5kv problem is, Yu is a comparatively powerful and experienced persona user.
Lore accurate Persona fights go hard! Get us more of this P6 please!
More of this in megaten in general this is hard 🔥🔥
@@sonevvanlegends3754 bro I need a Nahobino vs Demifiend cutscene like this!
yes please, I always wanted fights in cutscenes more,
This cutscene was very unique, had that ray tracing effect on it, and also the textures seems to have very high quality.
the whole animation team needs a raise my god
Personal theory, since we have that Synopsis of time and space being involved(forgot the exact phrasing) here are my thoughts. Wonder has the abilities to alter time and replace the phantom thieves as the protagonists with his own group. In the CBT, we saw Leblanc not ran by Sojiro at all. We thought from translations this was a result of a post Yaldabaoth world of some kind. What if its what Wonders powers are doing? Morgana is litterally replaced by an Owl who has an exact or similar ability set, the first female party member having an similar situation as Ann. The Phantom Thieves, Akechi will be available as Gacha pulls. All of this seems to point some kind of reality warping is involved, either by Wonder or Yaldabaoth as some kind of contingency
I'm thinking this too, that this is a reality created to combat the reality Joker fought for. That Wonder's story is just like Joker's, that you're actually working for the bad guys for now.
It'll be very interesting that Down the line and as the story goes They give you these questions of Which one would you pick Joker or Wonder . And Which gets to exist and Which will be erased
Perhaps it is not Wonder, but the Velvet Room...
It is the space between mind and matter. (I kinda forget the exact dialogue. Please forgive me)
So basically he's like Maruki because Maruki's power was to change people's cognition
@@wolfiethefurrygamer1908 or he could be Like The protagonist from Kamen Rider Zi-O, where The protag gains powers from other Riders but the og riders powers gets erased
I want this game to be good SO bad, especially since they're putting a lot of effort into the animation and choreography (I think this is easily one of the best 1v1s in the series honestly). Let's just hope the gacha mechanics aren't god-awful if it ever gets an international release.
keep coping I'm sure they'll listen
The amount of artwork they put in this is crazy, Im sure this will be a good game
@@AlexanderMartinez-kd7cz😐
@@akbarnanda4874 that doesn't really mean anything, since gacha game devs tend to invest loads of money into countless artworks, as those are what prompt whales into spending money on gacha. Especially since most pre-Genshin Impact gacha games ran chibi/sprite/low poly character models for each character so people were essentially just paying for voice acting and menu artworks. Of course that is constantly changing now that Hoyoverse "revolutionized" gacha genre and the character models seem quite detailed in Persona 5 X. However my point still stands. Artwork tends to sell these characters that devs are putting up so of course they are putting up as much of it as possible.
genshin could never
joker: I already killed like 3 gods with one bullet and a boy comes to dream that he beats me, I'm not going to allow that
exactly dude i hate this trope, like since technically joker is almost on par with yu and makotos shadows i dont want this new kid to be like "nah im better"
Assuming this game will end with Player-Wonder having to Makoto-Himself to fix the timeline that this alternate version of him seemingly broke (with the twist being that due to his bonds with his friends, his reality gets to coexist with Joker's)
This is confirmed to be an AU, so whatever happens here will proceed as the status quo.
The mainline Persona 5 timeline remains seperate from this.
i dont think he will have to makoto-himself, is a gacha and they want to exploit it for a very long time, and if the protagonist is a door, how you convince player to waste their money?
My theory is that Wonder and his team are agents of Yaldaboath instead of Igor
Didn't the PTs already do that at first? Before finding out thst they were actually doing things in Yaldabaoth's favor?
You do know that was the basic plot of Persona 5 as the team was actually working for Yalaboath throughout the game it's only at the end do they find out the truth and switch sides
This is joker after infiltrating the place, figthing Sae and in the middle of running from Sae's goons and still he was able to put up a good fight
To be fair Wonder would have probably also have had to infiltrate the Palace and possibly fight off some shadows before ambushing Joker and looking at this did it alone.
@@4wheal Tbf, Kasumi did mostly the same thing in Royal actually, only that she fought alongside Joker rather than against him.
1:50 ive had this game for about 4 years now and its footage from the probably china exclusive mobile game that taught me you can go this way in Sae's palace, I always just went all the way forwards on that little circle thing
That was epic, I really wish this would come out in the US.
Here’s praying it’s popular enough that it will
It's not even coming to JAPAN so I doubt it
I couldn't have been the only one thinking wonder looks like he's wearing an org XIII coat
@@ThatOneLegendEmerald its coming to korea soon so maybe they will release it to japan first then finally global
It will for sure, the dev already planning for it
Wonder, if that's even the real wonder, is in equal footing against joker
Cant wait until it goes global
Hold up did he just steal/seal Arsene...I did not expect that
oddly enough this reminds me of fire emblem warriors: three hopes! spin off game that shows our usual beloved protagonist only to reveal they have a new rival. and then it goes "btw that new rivals the main playable character. you gotta fight the original main character now." and then out of nowhere goes absurdly hard on fight scene choregraphy, despite the original game having next to none
Bruh joker lagging😂 1:44
People who are fearing that Wonder just defeated Joker remember this all happened in Wonder's dream. The outcome can be different if they actually faced off
There are three things I'm noticing and it's Wonder's outfit, his mask and his powers. His mask is different and his outfit has a hood. The regular Wonder's phantom outfit doesn't have that. So I wonder if this is another AU where Wonder is a bad guy and the one we play as has to fight his evil counterpart. Hooded Wonder also seemingly doesn't have a persona with how his mask was destroyed but he does seemingly have the ability to take others Persona's.
Man, I really hope this gets localized.
Oh it will get localized, a well known leaker confirmed it
Lets hope it comes to pc too
It is a pc and mobile game bro@@hbmaster1016
@@hbmaster1016iirc an beta had a PC client verison 99% percent sure there's a PC client
@hbmaster1016 as well as for releasing on consoles
The fight choreography was pretty dang good. Especially considering this is a mobile game. It was close quarters more focused on using their weapons and environment. Although is this supposed to be like an alternative timeline or something here?
Parallel World scenario which we've seen confirmed thanks to Midori's translations. Interested to know what the overarching threat will be in this game.
This maybe an A.R because after this scene and jumped into Luffy and Wonder's first dive in mementos, we saw Joker helping out Wonder and then disappearing
I remember when ppl were shit talking the heck out of this game and saying the devs wouldn’t make anything cool. Could be motivated by the fact it’s Chinese or the fact the earlier development content reused P5 stuff so much.
Turns out that even if you’re not down for some thing, handing creative freedom to new people can produce some cool stuff! There’s never been such an engaging fifth scene in the game series until this point.
Yeah I just hope that wonder didn't actually beat joker. Joker had so much more experience and the power of the wild card.
@@medievalplayz8327It was literally a wet dream of Wonder so I doubt it
@@medievalplayz83271. Wonder also has the power of the wild card
2. We don’t know how much experience wonder has at that point, he and joker look the exact same age
3. Joker is the weakest persona protagonist by far
This is very clearly a fan game that has Atlus's blessing and that's all good I respect that. However it being labled a persona 5 spin off is the part that bugged me the most. Because this is very clearly not focused on Joker or the other phatnom thieves so why the 5? However this clip has caused me to want to continue keeping track of it, having Wonder fight Joker in the casino of all places is not something you do lightly. They should know fans are going to expect significence out of this moment and answers to what it means.
@@medievalplayz8327Wonder is also a wild card user and he also seems to have a extra power as he can call upon cognitions of other persona users from the sea of souls.
As for experience this is Joker at Sae Palace whitch means he has only been a Persona user for a few months by that point so not that massive amount of experience
Everyone just shows up in this palace huh, kasumi is just 4 screens away
I mean this is like 11 months into the PT timeline. No shit this is where people show up.
I think everyone want to forget her given how she wasn't even part of the main story in Tactica
@arran4285 Royal is weird in that unlike Golden, most spinoffs kinda ignore her. My guess is because of the spoiler regarding Kasumi and their fear of revealing it to fans. Though you can easily counter by saying Akechi is in the spinoffs. It's definitely a strange choice by ATLUS. Could be related to marketing from SEGA or just an internal thing.
@@loserinasuit7880 It feel like they didn't fully make her story outside of the twist because you could've replace the twist with any other reason for her to make the deal with the glasses guy and not a lot would've changed
@arran4285 My personal problem is how the third act was handled. I was hoping for a black ops team between Kasumi, Akechi, and Joker that was kept secret from the PT. And you'd get into conflict regarding the events that unfolded. While the third act was fine, and Kasumi was well handled you could make the argument for anyone. Considering the entire main cast excluding Akechi agrees to the New Deal (even you if you want) initially, I don't see why her past is slighted by it.
I hope ATLUS lets whoever is developing Persona 5 The Phantom X continue to cook, with a fight scene that good, I'd love to see how this goes from here.
EYOOOOO THAT FIGHT CHOREOGRAPHY HAS NO RIGHT TO BE. SO. DAMN. *_SMOOTH BABY!_*
AHHHAHAHAHA THAT WAS SO AMAZING, WAY TOO FUCKIN CLEAN, JEEZUS!
Oh the final (?) beta already released. Looking forward to a bunch of showcase faz 👍
The Wonder fighting Joker is clearly some doppelgänger. Not only was the dream happening from Joker’s perspective, but just before the player takes control, the scene suddenly glitches out and Wonder takes Joker’s place for a brief second.
This is actually sick, damn
Why is the choreography so good? I hope Persona 6 has cutscenes like this
This is the kind of cutscene fighting I’ve been waiting for!
I need this game... Like right now... Because CONTEXT
So that was the best fight scene Persona has developed..... That's a crazy start to a game not gona lie
Hey faz you should make a video with all the hideout animations with no HUD. I’ve always wanted to have a wallpaper of those!
4:21 Is it just me or does it look “Wonder” just stole away Joker’s powers ?
He didn't, though he was able to cancel joker summoning arsene for some reason. We do know wonder didn't actually steal joker's powers though, because in a cutscene after this one joker appears again and he is able to summon arsene
@@mizzixbut then again, that's not joker, it's just a persona idol
@@mizzix We dont know what placr this scene takes place in the timeline so using that scene is irrelevant.
it's kind of jarring how good that cutscene is next to the other cutscenes we've grown accustomed to since 2017 lol
This looks so good And I have no idea what happened.
man went from strategy to "fuck strategy lets battle like in anime"
I really like seeing dagger fighting instead of the usual sword fighting.
I confess I don't know what is coming but I have a good feeling about this s2
Ok my excitement for this is now 100000000%!
This feels like the creators fanfic
Atlus approved it so I guess you could say its a official fanfic
We need more of these cutscenes in Persona 6 and SMT games, especially on SMT, imagine watching a fight like this between Smt demons.
the animation of the eyes at 4:49 are top notch
Dude i just want some context for everything that has happened in this game lmfao they got me interested
3 whole artstyle shifts in the span of 5 minutes, holy shit
One of the plataform in the prologue just send you character back to the previous plataform (in this game obviously)
Theres no way joker got turned into a fraud by wonder
Wonder or Fake Wonder seems to have a cheating ability to steal/seal Personas..
It's a dream
This looks like wonder dreamed he was joker in sae palace because of the glitches and the wonder that attacked was his persona and that why he couldn't use his persona and because he could have both of them put at the same time and thats why we see him use that ablity to stop his summoning.
Gawddamn I wasn't expecting that
At least now we know where the persona 3 reload fusion attacks with your personas comes from
Fusion Spells with your Personas are A Thing From The Original P3 and P3 Fes, even the PSP Remake of the game, Persona 3 Portable had Fusion Spells.
They where Just Never used in a Persona game again.
@darkstar_xd oh I know. I was referring to these new tandem attacks where persona users have showtime attacks with their personas. Saw it in the last reloaded gameplan video. Looked new to me
The fusions spells got nothing to do with P5. Fusions were in P2-3 and there’s a plot reason for its use in P3
@@Atom-yb5dy Yep, Thats New, the Old Fusion Spells Could be spammed, but they Wasted Way too Much sp...
You mean Therugy?
I noticed a something during this, wonder ised something that took away jokers blue flame thing after using his persona, idk if its a form of mute or something or a cool af ability he has
Now I can’t wait to see how it goes
This really makes me curious when The Phantom X is taking place. I thought it was a year or 2 in Persona 5's Timeline, but now I'm starting to think "Alternate Timeline".
Something ive noticed is thatbwhen ripping off the shadows mask, there's sort of a burst of blood, which i thought they weren't going to have due to reasons
I’m praying we get a few juicy fight scenes like this in p6
Fun, wish they didn't change the song into last surprise during that battle but oh well
Damn, this looks good.
Yeaaaaaaah more P5 and Joker content!!!!
How many layers of cognition are there serious, so we have mementos, marukis dream world, prison, and now whenever this is
this persona milk about to be poppin'
when you find out your goat washed 💔
This game is insane on the visuals, damnnn
This was the fight choreography I expected from a Striker’s cutscene but boy were those an embarrassment.
Yo who animated it that was like amazing choreography I’m so excited
Akechi: Why did you let HIM Kill you before me?
Joker: You still owe me fi- "dies"
The fight choreography is so good!
Man I can’t wait. When is this available for preorder worldwide??
The immediate thing I thought of when they showed that this is the same event except for Wonder's interference was whenever Joker fails to steal the treasure within the limit and the game transitions into a fake memory of Joker getting arrested. Making me think that this is gonna be Wonder and gang going in Joker's Palace in the form of memories somehow? Maybe something to do with Cognitive Echos
That fight was pretty damn great.
why they do my boy Joker dirty like that
my oc wonder goes into the metaverse, fights joker and then kills him
It was a literal "and then he woke up" moment. Lol
Can this game PLEASE get an international release already?
Also, is it just me, or did they use Joker's Smash Bros model for the 3D cutscenes?
4:37
Akechi: "IT SHOULD'VE BEEN ME! NOT HIM! IT'S NOT FAIR!!!"
I swear, if I wasn't following the persona series and people told my this is a mobile game I wouldnt have believed it.
That was awesome. Wasnt expecting Wonder to bust a cap in Joker right after he beat him.
WHOA this is actually so sick????
The difference in P5 to P5X cutscenes is so obvious. Why does this look so good??? They really want this to take off don't they
MY GOAT ISNT WASHED😭😭😭🙏🙏
Oh man, they're cooking something amazing here
feels like they travelled back to time (the new cast) to prevent something