Exposing The Chinese Warship With A LOT of Weapons
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- China's Type 052C destroyer, also known as the Luyang II-class, is a modern and advanced naval vessel designed for the People's Liberation Army Navy (PLAN). As of my last knowledge update in January 2022, here is a technical summary of the Type 052C destroyer:
Dimensions:
Length: Approximately 155 meters (508 feet)
Beam: Approximately 17 meters (55 feet)
Displacement: Around 7,000 to 7,500 tons
Propulsion:
The Type 052C is powered by a combined gas turbine and diesel engine system, providing both high-speed performance and extended operational range.
Armament:
Vertical launch system (VLS): The destroyer is equipped with the innovative Universal Vertical Launch System (UVLS), capable of launching a variety of missiles, including air defense, anti-ship, and anti-submarine missiles.
Anti-aircraft weapons: It is armed with a close-in weapon system (CIWS) and anti-aircraft artillery to defend against incoming threats.
Anti-submarine capabilities: The vessel carries torpedoes and anti-submarine rocket launchers for sub-surface defense.
Sensors and Electronics:
The Type 052C destroyer features advanced radar systems, including phased-array radar, providing superior situational awareness and target tracking capabilities.
It is equipped with electronic warfare and countermeasures systems to defend against electronic threats.
The ship is likely to have comprehensive communication systems for effective command and control.
Role and Capabilities:
The primary role of the Type 052C destroyer is air defense, anti-surface warfare, and anti-submarine warfare.
It is a significant asset for the PLAN's blue-water operations and power projection, offering enhanced offensive and defensive capabilities.
Crew and Operations:
The Type 052C destroyer typically has a crew complement of around 280 to 300 personnel.
It is capable of extended deployments and can operate in a variety of maritime environments.
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For all of you wondering why a Type 052C was flying the US flag. Realize that tensions weren't so high back then, so there were far more military-level exchanges between China and the US. This came in the form of port visits and notably the joining of the US-led exercise RIMPAC in both 2014 and 2016. Despite being only 6 years ago, it's difficult to imagine this happening today.
thanks to trump and biden... trade war and sanctions....
Then Trump happened and here we are!!!
They probably joined in to collect intel.
@@dinte215: This was their plan all along. Trump had nothing to do with it. ChYnA was picked way back in the 70’s to be the model for one world government. Bad times are coming. Trump got in their way, which is why he will never be allowed in the WH again. At ANY cost! They cannot have someone who hasn’t sold out to the WEF, Globalist agendas. Best prepare.
@@dinte215 yeah, things are going so well under Biden. The whole world respects us and we definitely aren't a laughing stock internationally.
The 052c is a perfect example of the PLA Navy's "small steps, fast running" approach to development. The small number of ships of the same model is intended to validate the new equipment. Finally, the 052 and 055 have entered service in large numbers.
The last 052C was launched in 2015, now chinese navy is building 052D and 055 A and B. As of 2022, there were at least 25 052D had been launched, and as of 2023, eight 055A (up to 13,000 ton）and one 055B (up to 15,000 ton) have been launched.
For the Type 52 they should be on the DLs now
people keep talking about the type055 flight 2 as if they're somehow radically different but theres been zero official information on it other than the fact that they're being built.
They are building ships at an insane rate, that's for sure. A Chinese CSG with a type 003 carrier, 4 052Ds and 4 055s is a big enough deterrent for the US Navy to stop playing games in the South China Sea.
@@hughmungus2760 It's a steady evolution in a specific direction. Yes they are playing catch-up but at a hell of a rate. Mostly by stealing other nations R&D and adapting it for their own industrial capability. It's a valid and well practiced method of advancement. It speeds things up but comes with it's own set of pro's and con's. That said, we all do it.
I wonder at what point they will be capable of making their own discoveries and produce new technology.
The CCP boffins are quite good at drone development. Will the next generation of destroyers be equipped with them and what will that add to the battle space? (Can we steal it.)
There's no 055 "A" or "B" yet. The recently launched vessel is just from the second batch of 055s.
This ship was the most significant advancement for Chinese Navy, they went from regular radar with box launcher to AESA radar with VLS in one ship. Literally 30 years advancement. They build the first 2 ships in 2003 and it took them another 10 years to build the next 4. But they still choose to not mass produce this class until 052D which is another huge upgrade
Another interesting thing about this ship is that they skipped PESA all together and went straight to AESA radar technology, about 15 years ahead of US Navy, vast majority of Burks are still using PESA today
they determined the 52D as a mature platform to mass produce... turns out they're not wrong...
What so you expect when they can learn from others mistakes, buy/steal/copy from others like Russia or US, and have mostly new ships. What I have noticed is that China was kinda smart, they purchased stuff to copy, made deals with the best of both worlds, plays friendly to learn US operations, and made improvements on any western copies they wanted. Basically, it isn't hard to make such leaps when development has already been done by others. Even the designs are based on mostly western platforms at this point. Very little of what I see is home grown without some western design look.
Older SPY-1 on Aegis destroyers including on older Burke Flight I and II can already see as far as 1700km. So its still a capable radar. While SMART-L radar like those on European frigates and even UK’s Type 45 destroyer can reach as far as 2000km. Doubtful if Chinese Type 346A/B radar on Type 052D and Type 055 can reach the same range. Even then upcoming SPY-6 with 24 RMAs for Burke Flight IIA has a similar max range of THAAD’s TPY-2 radar of around 4700km as both are from the same company Raytheon. SPY-6 with 37 RMAs on Burke Flight III will even be more powerful. On the other hand future DDG(x) with 57 RMAs if not 37 would be insanely powerful. Then their is also SPY-7.
Another significant advantage SPY-6 has over older SPY-1 and even Chinese Type 346A/B it has multiple mini radar arrays or Radar Modular Assemblies RMA. Each RMA can do its own thing like volumetric search, target illumination, horizon search, and even electronic warfare. They can also be combined into groups or into a more powerful singular radar array. On the other hand Type 346A/B like older SPY-1 only has one radar array, so it can only do one thing at a time. Also Aegis destroyers have another set of CWI X-band radars for backup but can also illuminate. So SPY-6 is not only more powerful but also more versatile. Even SPY-6 with just 9 RMAs for upcoming Constellation class frigates is a more capable radar than what Type 052D and even Type 055 have.
@@johnsmith1953x AESA radars can do electronic warfare. The new jamming pods NGJ for EA-18G also use AESA. Though an AESA radar will not be as powerful as a dedicated AESA jamming pod.
@@johnsmith1953x Dude, do your own research. Not my problem if you don't believe me.
I'm not a navy man of any sort but this reminds me of the Roman's. Whenever they saw a good idea they copied it and produced it in large numbers. Look where it got them.
Loving the content man.
Really enjoy and appreciate these videos
Excellent as always, thanks Jive.
No, they never use an unlicensed AECC QC280 engine in any of PLAN ships. It's called CGT25000 by CSSC, the licensed one. AECC and CSSC are different companies.
He must emphasize that every piece of PLA equipment is an inferior copy of its Western or Soviet counterpart to suit his tastes, why do you think he would admit that the Chinese produce a fair amount of their weapons under license?😂He's just used to being on top and judging, and he enjoys it.
@@russelfang7434 He is just a typical American. Lost in the proud of USN in 1990s. He just cannot accept the fact that most USN ships are 40 years old and proved to be obscure.
Aaron, you all geeked up on espresso, you keep getting your tang all tungled up! Great lecture, deep content (thanks Jane!). - Cheers, Bob
impressive，you guys collect enough information from public media. looking forward video for 052D and 055
This is the second video I’ve seen from you. I’m subscribed now, and sharing this.
Thanks Aaron, they are fascinating ships
good serious, looking forwards to the episode for 052D
Very good brief, very informative 3 part series, my thanks to you and your team Aaron. As an Australian I'm looking forward to your Hobart class briefing as this is what might be going head to head with these Chinese destroyer's, in the case of the Pacific region going further into the organic fertiliser bin.
Now, just hold on a minute there.
All three of them? It’s treasonous that the RAN doesn’t operate at least 6 of them. They contemplated building a 4th and decided against it on economic grounds.
With regard to my comment above about it being a 3 part series I am referring to this sub brief instalment being the second video in an series of 3 on this type of Chinese destroyer as there are three different evolutions of it. Aaron advised us of this in the previous video which was the first in the series of three.
My reference to “…all three of them…” is regarding the 3x Hobart Class Destroyers that comprise the entire destroyer fleet of the Royal Australian Navy. That said, it’s still larger than the Canadian and New Zealand destroyer fleets combined, as the RCN and RNZN both operate precisely zero destroyers.
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I'm grateful for your comment as it allows me the opportunity to clarify that I was regarding a yet to occur, considerably significant worsening of the situation in the Pacific region. To my mind we are still sitting on the seat and haven't yet fallen in to the bowl of the lavatory.
I appreciate your channel sir
Do a story on the lack of ammo in the US Navy
What would you think of a squad level distributed audio sensor for the location and classification of UAV's? I know air isn't water, but I'm guessing you might have some insight. Quadcopter are often difficult to see or hear. I would think standardized blades should produce a predictable frequency range. I guess my question is, what range do you think small microphones would be able to detect those frequencies?
I've seen many videos of soldier being caught off guard by quadcopters carrying munitions. Back ground noise can (Like and active military operation) can make the buzz of drones hard to pick out with the human ear. Would a common smart phone be better at filtering and detecting, especially meshed and sharing data? Could a smartphone mic do this or would a somewhat larger mic attached to a smartphone be needed. Would a frequency produced by standard DJI drones produce too many false positives as to make it useless?
If you ever get bored you have at least one viewer that is interested in you applying your trade to acoustics in a less dense medium.
I know you're asking Sub Brief, but I'll give my two cents. I think the technology could be feasible, but maybe not on the squad level. I'm thinking maybe the platoon level, just because of expense. We already have direction finding acoustic sensors for detecting snipers. They were setup on Humvees and other vehicles and installations in Iraq and probably Afghanistan too. I would guess the same technology could be used with something more sensitive to detect drones. Because they are quite loud. I think it could work if people put their minds to it. A smartphone mic would certainly not be enough I would think, though. It would have to be specialized. The mic would have to be actually omnidirectional.
@@EziekKiel The noise of drones comes from the sound boom generated by the supersonic rotor wing tip, which can be eliminated with a simple design (as seen on DJI's new drone, which was launched 4 years ago). In addition, the microphone of the mobile phone is optimized for collecting human voices within 50cm, which means that noise outside the frequency of human voices beyond 50cm will be actively filtered. This is a typical example, if you have not received a good college physics education, you should not discuss science and technology. People without a large amount of knowledge reserves provided by good education will only have delusions and cannot innovate.
It’s impressive to see how quickly China improves their navy. Granted a lot of that is from electronically “borrowing” designs IE the catapults and flight deck of their new CV, but you still gotta build not just the actual components but also the equipment to produce and maintain them as well. We’ll see how well they work though because going from drawing board to real world use is such a seamless process with no problems.
China EMALS is very different from any design and is not only original but superior. each catapult is independently powered by DC, this allows very flexible power management unlike the American system which run on a AC bus that is shared and so reseting the power on 1 catapult would result in all catapult halting operation, greatly reducing it availability. i find it rather amusing that of all the possible examples of "borrowed" design, you would actually cite one that is fair revolutionary and even ahead of their western counterpart. especially when this video is about the "chinese aegis" one would think citing the phase array arrangement as an example would be more fitting and obivious choice.
@@lagrangewei99.9% of TH-cam commenters think J20 is an F35 clone because they look similar from the front.
Good point. The CCP seem to be able to mature a technology once they acquire it. They are getting there in leaps and bounds. Material science is a good example of a field in which they are playing catch-up, with great success.
CCP espionage is not limited to designs of end use systems. They endeavour to acquire everything in the production chain to eventually fully deploy what they have stolen. ChiComs have turned clandestine espionage into an art form. It mirrors their ancient civilisations idiosyncrasies, when contaminated by marxism.
@@gusgone4527 just wanna add to your excellent comment:
If copying is so easy, everyone would do it. China being able to copy literally everything from everyone is a great skill to have.
Think Sharingan from Naruto for you anime lovers.
@@lagrangewei careful, your bias is starting to show. HI Sutton and other, more respected and well known analysts have pointed out how similar the Fujian flight deck layout is to the Ford. They have a history of stealing technology or buying it and reverse engineering it and I doubt something as revolutionary as EMALS was thought up and designed by two different countries simultaneously. And I doubt that the American EMALS are on the same breaker. That level of stupidity is reserved for Russia.
Please note that Burke 1 and 2 use a PESA radar and type 346 is an AESA radar, based on much different technologies.
also one is watercooled and the other is gascooled
Whatever technologies PLAN use, they must be stolen from USA. Though they are much more advanced than what USA have.
Calling these ships the type 052c is like calling the hourly Burke class Spruance class flight 4.
We should have paid attention. I certainly did when I found out that they have dual band AESA radars, which are arguably more sophisticated radars than the single band AN/SPY-1 PESA on all of our destroyers with the exception of one flight three Arleigh Burke. Which has the dual band SPY-6
Yea if one thinks the type 52c is worrisome. Wait till subbrief goes over the 52d and 55 destroyers. Not good at all.
Are the flight three Arleigh the newest destoyers we're building right now?
It depends on how much they are able to utilize both bands together for air search. Its likely the C-band T/Rs are devoted squarely toward target illumination, and datalinks for the HQ-9 missiles in which case the dual-band nature is not as much of a technological innovation as it may seem.
@@Vash85 I think so. There is the upcoming DDGX but that is not till 2032.
Yeah the naming convention is weird, original Type 052 vs type 052D are literally 50 years different in technology, but at last I don't think those name fooled anyone, it was just in US's best interest to not make a fuze about Chinese advancement.
if you are curious how "beidou" is pronounced think "bay-doh" it translates to "the big dipper" referencing the traditional use of the north star for navigation.
Need video for PLAN type 056 corvette & 022 missile boat too
Hi Aaron, i would like to ask what king of hardware is that on located just between the ship's chimney/funnel and the main mast?
Thanks
👍 well done.
Another great video sir.
I just signed on to your membership to get the full PLAN brief. As a Korean, I feel obliged to learn about the PLAN's plans.
I have a small suggestion: could you also cover the ROKN ships and JMSDF ships? (I remember your coverage of the KSS-III and plans for CVX, but our surface fleet could get some love too.)
Info about them is rare in the English speaking world, and there's a thing to be said about the need to know what your allies are up to.
ROKN does not have their own technology what they have is a variant of Burke 2
@@jntiger1981 you're overlooking the newest developments. The 2nd batch of what you say is "Burke flight 2", KDX-III, is armed with, among other things, TBMs. It's mission, configuration, and armement is different from the Burke despite overlaps.
There's also the FFG-III, the Chungnam class, that has a homegrown AESA radar system.
Besides, even for the first batch of the KDX-III, Internal differences, especially in weapon systems, should more than warrant a separate ship brief.
Try watch video from channel euroasia naval insight more indepth on plan ship
Korean navy don't have their innovations, it's basically a mini version of u.s. navy.
Korea and Japan will always get hand me down u.s tech.... all their latest destroyers still use SPY-1 PESA radars
I've seen article about the UGT25000 engine was complaint by the Chinese navy because its highest power isn't as beautiful as it's on paper in a hot and moist weather in southern China, which the Soviet and Ukrainian don't need to worry about😅. And the Chinese engineers was working on that as well.
You are wrong. The reason for Japan's collapse is that the United States draws about $30000 to $100000 of capital from Japan every year, only gives treasury bond bonds like Japanese junk, and hardly gives Japan the right to exchange. At present, the market trading price of the 10-year US treasury bond bond of US $1 million is only US $500000, which is the fundamental reason why Japan collapsed. Being an ally of the United States is fatal.
You're right, but that problem was solved about ten years ago. The gas turbines now used by the PLA have undergone many upgrades and improvements.
The curved radar panels on the super structure.. is there an internal mechanical reason for the curving? I thought AESA panels on ships doing what the AEGIS type ships do are flat and electronically directed beams. Having curved outer panels leads me to think something inside has a partial mechanical rotation range.
It's an additional water cooling unit
Hi Aaron, is Alot a technical term? 😉
Plz do one on Renhai class.
it's done.
The way I see it, the Chinese has already surpassed the US in warship capability. While you review the Type 53C, they now have the Type 52D. More advanced radar, CWS and anti-ship and anti -air missiles while the US is now de-commissioning most of its Ticonderoga Class and Arleigh Burke Class destroyers which are very old to be gradually replaced by the Arleigh Burke Class III. The only advantage the US has now are submarines but even that the Chinese are also narrowing the gap
with its latest Type 96 and Type 093B. It will take only a couple of years for the Chinese to catch up with the US latest Virginia Class. And the Chinese are able to build their warships 5 times faster and also cheaper than the US. It is puzzling that the US with its annual defense budget of more than $800 billion is now playing catch up?
In the meantime, US defense analyst and mainstream news medias will continue to delude Americans into believing it still has the best military in the world and can easy win a war in 3 fronts against Russia, Iran, China. In terms of nuclear capability, Russia has now achieved superiority in its missiles technology and also delivery system. This too, the US is playing catch up.
Wait until China has to actually pay and support all those ships for decades or centuries to come. They too will have older ships in their fleets that fall behind other and that get phased out. It's only a temporary advantage as we are in the middle of another major upgrade cycle and will once again leapfrog from whatever China may bring to the table. It's all just timing and money. China does not have an equivalent US economy and they will eventually start feeling the real cost of owning "supposedly" powerful naval fleets. No one really thought that in this small world day and age that China and Russia would actually have any balls to cause global trouble but here we are and we are changing what needs to be built and designed accordingly. China can bloody our nose out at sea close to home but that's as far they will ever get. Another turtle kingdom just like russia.
Hmm looks like a Wumao is posting on Sub Brief.
@@GRIGGINS1 It seems you know how to define wumao very well
@@wolfgangjr74 How is it that the US, with a defense budget that is bigger than the 10 next country combined, cannot achieve overwhelming military superiority against Russia and China? The Russian annual defense is only about 70 billion, even less than the money the US gave to Ukraine of 110 billion? China's defense budget is only about 250 billion? At this rate, do you honestly think the US can maintain its status as the world best military?
@@GRIGGINS1 I am bringing some reality into your discussion...
Btw, in a CSG why is the distance between ships still within sight? Why not put each other over the horizon?
Very interesting video even for someone with a general interest 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼 Most common word? "Copy" 🤣
15:48 Type 364 (H/LJQ-364) is a short range high-refreshing rate tracking radar, its role is exactly the same as AN/SPQ-9A, not OTH radar. The OTH radar is Type 366(Chinese version Mineral-ME "Band Stand" 16:10 ), the hemispherical dome on top of the bridge.
I guess the reason Type 052C didn't grab a lot of attention was that only two hull (170 and 171) were built in early 2000s and the construction was pause, which leading a thought that this was an premature experiment, far away from being operational and PLAN is not yet ready to batch build the modern AAW combatants this kind. By the time the following four hulls rolled out at the brand new facilities at Changxing Island, Type 052D was about to kicked off.
type 052c vertical lunch system, actually not straight up, all those cells have angle to avoid those rockets fall back on the ship.
That makes sense (putting C3 on a small boi): Because they all look similar at a glance, if you are trying to take out the lead command ship (in a flotilla of look-alikes)... Challenge level hard? (I'll presume that WHEN they go into combat, all of them will have the same hull number painted? For the LOLs)
Does anyone have old Soviet Snar Sounds. Cant find any
It really is impressive on how fast China can build stuff but man, that looks exactly like a Flight II/III Alriegh Burke Destroyer.
Pretty lines.
I do love the coping mechanisms of hubris and just going, "It's all just copies -- none of it works!" in the comments.
Underestimating a potential adversary has never ever gone poorly for the United States historically of course. No, I don't know what that memorial in Pearl Harbor is all about probably some boring thing nobody cares about.
We were not at war with Japan. They werent our adversary at the time. They just attacked us out of the blue.
Ironically, the underestimated the US in that instance.
The difference is that we have evidence to base our conclusions on, the Imperial Japanese, did not.
Chinese copies of consumer goods have gotten really good in the past few years. If they're copying military equipment with at least the same level of fidelity of consumer goods, they're probably in a pretty good spot.
An extension of American exceptionalism, he believed that the laws of physics were on America's side and that the Chinese could not somehow overtake the Americans, just as he never cared about the source of American jet technology after WWII.
Type 52D has replaced the Type 52C.
"Mom, can we get Arleigh-Burke?"
"We have Arleigh-Burke at home."
The Arleigh-Burke at home:
Hi Aaron a good brief, but the goalkeeper cwis system isn't a British build system but is a Dutch system.
I'm sorry I got that wrong. GoalKeeper= Dutch system. Got it.
A very interesting video, keep up the good work Bro.
They only have six of these, I'm told. It's almost a R&D run and a work in progress. Each subsequent generation is better than the last, as they steal more and better technology.
( Couldn't resist that dig.) Their strategic ambitions have obviously dictated the direction in which these naval assets have evolved. I can't wait to learn about the next generation and extrapolate where this is leading.
I really hope the new 1234?C system turns out to be a true leap in capability. That and our EW I hope will give us a significant edge. We don't have that many missiles, but engaging the right target at the right time so nothing gets overly wasted will help. Even better if foe can't even use their systems or engage decoys instead. The Chinese spy network is epically vast, incessant, and dangerous. If CC and EW is our ace in the hole then one spy or hack is all it takes really takes to ruin everything.
Why does the photo at 16:30 include both an American and (assuming) chinese flag on it??
No need to slander another country with your hyperbolic gaslighting.
Off topic question for someone who knows naval warfare better than I do:
Could you do a video explaining the current importance of Sevastapol to Russia? Obviously Black Sea access is a major.reason for Russian actions in Ukraine, but what good are Black Sea ships when Turkey is part of NATO and the Med is largely NATO controlled? If a shooting war with NATO were ever to start, any ships in the Black Sea would be basically port-bound, would they not? Is the importance more economic than military?
Just curious why about 16 mins into it on the mineral me slide the ship is fly American and Chinese flag ?
I'm more of a casual viewer of this channel and subject as a whole. But this kind of advancement is quite worrying. Of course these haven't been battle tested so its anyone's guess I suppose until that happens. I mean take the Slava for instance, on paper she was a beast of a warship, but in reality, not so much. Fingers crossed its all show and no go.
The bruke class are more like Slava class. which is 40 years old and not ever tested in real battle.
i don't know what you mean by battle tested.... like sailing up n down chinese coast or launch cruise missiles at night to wake up goat herders be called battle tested....
@@banerda2334The Arleigh Burke class and the Slava class are not comparable in any way. One has seen action in the Middle East, successfully defended itself against anti-ship missiles in actual combat (see USS Mason attacks), and routinely demonstrates defense capability (see the recent USS Carl M. Levin IAMD test). The other can be sunk be a pair of experimental anti-ship missiles.
Why does the ship pictured at 16:31 have both the chinese and US flag flying?
Funny the radar looks more like the type 45 🇬🇧 then anything else.
Hands down, the best intro ive seen in a min.
Anyone knows where it comes from?
Bay-dough!
I lived/worked in China for 4 years (‘2002-2005). Visiting the Military Museum in Beijing, always got a kick to see all the weapons they were making copies of 70 years ago.
Good presentation, as always. At -6.27 the slide shows Hull 153 flying an American Flag ?
They have come to US ports in the past. We do it also.
15:06 we also should develope holy digital systems!
I’m satisfied that the “phased array” radar domes are just really big baofeng antennas and are made of marshmallow.
Nothing to worry about for you then
Is it just me, or does this ship seem wildly underprepaired against missile threats?
2x CWIS isn't going to cut it bro.
Arleigh Burke-class destroyers are being built with only 1 x CIWS
And we in Australia are building the Hobart class which is a kayak compared to a destroyer. WTF.
It's a fine ship. The problem is in the quantity.
Is the Chinese military industrial complex similar to our? Meaning is it state owned or private?
100% state own, also China's ship building capacity accounts for about 44% of planet earth's capability. Military order are like a tiny percentage of what they build while I believe in US military warship are near 100% of US ship building capabilities, oh and US ship building capacity account for less than 1% of the world's.
also most ship building cranes are from china..... including what u.s and uk been using
Lanzhou is pronounced something like "Lan Joe". Jiangnan is pronounced something like " Jang Nan ". The Haikou is is pronounced something like "Hai Koh". The emphasis is "something like" as Chinese is a tonal language no matter if it is Mandarin or Cantonese or Teochew or Hakka etc
Furthermore, the vowels are different: A E I O U in English is differently employed in Chinese for A E I O U. If I recall correctly it is similar to Japanese use of the A E I O U vowels.
Rust Bucket in 2 years!
It sounds like sb is reading wiki here
Impressive, but she's no Arleigh Burke...
While its fun to look at specs and such, nations such as china and russia tend to play up capability, while the US always plays down.
You know nothing about true American
Which universe does this US come from?😅
In reports, or in the field...
boasting is inside americans DNA
当然美国甚至登录国月球以至于我觉得我的国家的几十年发展的科技是垃圾，当然2030我们会去阿姆斯特朗登录的地点和他的脚印合影前提是有的情况下。
7000 tons heh?? How many ADCAPs is needed for one hull??
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The Americans had to play catchup with the Japanese too in WW2.
This is what happens when you help your enemy become wealthy and turn that around to use that wealth to prepare for your demise.
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Notice the foredeck on the advanced naval group-coordinating destroyer. Do you see anything that might seem...primitive?
beidou pronounced "bay dough"
Wait a minutes, not "Pay Two"?
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052a take overto cost guards
We all need to learn Chinese so we can talk with our future Masters and get a better job in the new government.
That was the mantra of the 1980's and a lot of wealth was generated in the 1990's and 2000's. I think being able to speak the same language is the first step to understanding each other.
China will fail as it always does due to no real creative thought allowed to survive in China.
The way i see it, china has same defence budget as US, which has to maintain the numerous bases, pay for the over inflated prices on every military component, pay considerably high staff support. Adjusting for ppp and these factors its in similar range
What about the 052D and 055. The are way more capable than this
think he's working up to those ships soon.....
@@The136th oh well most American YTbers think like that.... They still firmly believe only they have the best engineering and weapons
4:05 In 2014 Ukraine stopped supplying russia with engines and parts, but In 2021 China started exporting those engines to russia. sadge
Everyone like, 300 people here only 60
The Type 346 Radar is an OTH Radar, which uses gallium nitride semiconductors, which is higher senstivity then anything the US AESA have except for the AN/SPY 6 radars which is used only by the latest Flight III Arleigh Burke Destroyers. The Type 346 has a range of 450km far more superior than any Arleigh Burke radar capability within NATO, AUKUS, or QUAD Navies, except for the Ford Class Aircraft Carrier and the latest Flight III Arleigh Burke Destroyers. Youre very WRONG.
Secondly, the Type 364 Seagull, is not an over the horizon (OTH) radar, it is used for CIWS for up to 75km.
As far as the Gallium and Germanium chemical semiconductors exports is concerned for the US Defense Industry, like the 90% of Rare Earths processing which is undertaken by the Chinese, the export of gallium minerals to the US has been cut due to the Semiconductor war between America and China. The likelihood of the US obtaining Gallium especially from China has been cut. America has to source their Gallium for their Radars especially for the AN/Spy 7 radar systems from somewhere else besides China. Its a NO from China!
@@baronvonslambertYea that's probably why their unbreakable union desolved like toilet paper in water
Compro 500 navios dessa classe para a marinha do Brasil rio de janeiro
Why is there an American flag on that Chinese warship
LMAO the 052C is a museum ship relative to the rest of the PLAN.
The Chinese even mimics how American walk, eat, breathe, pee and to be a human. If there’s no American how could there be Chino or Chinese. Chilling
Why the band stand has A United States flag flying
16:11 why does this one have an American flag? lol
The botttom of the HHQ 9 altitude engagement envelope is 500 meters. LRASM swarm will make short work of them.
Please don’t ever learn how to pronounce the Chinese names correctly, it will take all the fun away
Did anyone else notice that 052c bow photo shows the ship flying the stars and stripes? That has to be photoshopped. If not, it would be considered a courtesy flag indicating a concession that the Chinese destroyers will follow the maritime laws of both the United States and of China - something that China is unlikely to actually do considering the way they are interacting with foreign vessels in the South China Sea - including those of the United States and other NATO powers. Flying the US flag like that is basically a psy-op, probably meant to put nationals from other countries bordering the South China Sea off if they aren't very good with visual ship identification.
I believe that they are simply acknowledging all the technology that they have stolen from the USA. Sort of a "F-You" to Uncle Sam.
Your concerns are valid but this is neither a photoshop nor psy-ops. Back when tensions weren't so high, China participated in the US-led RIMPAC exercise in both 2014 and 2016. Quite hard to imagine that today huh?
China ruled the seas before the 16th century but they isolated themselves at the end and deteriorated from there (just like Trump tried to do). Admiral Zheng He's fleet dwarfed anything the Portuguese or Spanish had by a factor of 5...400+ft 9-masted ships vs 85 ft for the Santa Maria. Their weapons were centuries ahead. I don't know why people are surprised that China is moving so fast after a couple hundred years of downturn. And they have only really started a couple decades ago.😢
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Sorry, but I have to say… Chinesium turbine blades??? No thank you!!!
china builds almost half the world's commercial shipping. I think they know what they're doing.
@@hughmungus2760 Ya ya, always the same argument. Quantity ≠ Quality. China is NOT known around the world for quality and you’re not going to convince me otherwise.
@@mikestewart4752 well you can live in denial then because if chinese commercial ships were bad or unreliable, nobody would be buying them.
We're not talking about cheap consumer products. we're talking about quarter billion dollar pieces of machinery like LNG tankers.
@@hughmungus2760 … made out of a Chinesium.
@@mikestewart4752 doesn't matter. It sells and yours don't. Cope.
Well this is somewhat stated in the video, but let me address it more clearly. With my background, I can point to books like the Dictionary of Modern war (Luttwak & Koehl) as well as How to Make War 3rd and 4th edition with my military lit background
And with a healthy dose of historical precedent I can bluntly tell you that these (making shiney, bristling with weapons) military systems are part of the ongoing (well over 100yrs) development of modern military systems (meaning more complex) that are constantly running into problems unless you're the West frankly, you just have a bad track record of high tech weapons and this is one of the fallback traits that have been produced as a result
Communist and similar corrupt garbage systems produce these sort of oddball things, the Russians were famous for making the Army bristle with shiney new weapon systems and lavishly equipped (see them right before WW2) where the weapons they had lavishly were not modern high tech multi-part weapons, move forward to post WW2 and they continue the tradition of weapon systems becoming increasingly high tech, and increasingly unreliable especially against Western Tech (they did fine against their own though as they often sold them to country's they would later fight)
So their system has a built in answer that has gone back as far as modern true high tech weapons systems came out, and that is to produce them with numerous backup systems, as Dunnigan rightly puts it in his book "They think if one won't do it, another weapon might do the trick."
So they produce these seemingly powerful systems bristling with weapons that look legitimately fierce but in reality it's the same tired old excuse for a hopeful victory against overwhelming odds against Western tech (one recent example can be the large amount of Ruske rotary wings shot down losing large amounts of experienced pilots, the pilots died because they finally ran into Western tech, up until then they had been fighting guerrillas and such without heavy EW resistance or being shot at by high tech weapons, as soon as those were encountered they were shot down left and right)
Furthermore multiple weapon systems help to create streamlined replacements when you don't have experienced crews to hold back then you can't count on a repairmen being handy, throwing out the whole thing and replacing it is just a better solution to them
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Take the claims of the CCP in regard to their tech, divide by three, discard two parts, and that is probably much closer to the actual capability
which is why Huawei beats the pants off apple in 5G.
@@hughmungus2760I actually like such arrogant supremacists..
For anyone wonder why is the Type 052C flying US falg, this was in RIMPAC 2014, a 052C and 054A and some other support ship and hospital ship joined the exercise. This was before Trump times.
How many secrets did trumkin give to china and russia while he was calling them good friends?
I'd be careful about calling something very capable till it has been combat tested
Which modern US ship has been used in conflicts? And I mean conflicts where the ship was in any danger unlike Syria, Gulf War, etc
Sailors in the Chinese Navy are just thrilled with pride just to have flushing toilets on their ships......
One simple half an hour documentary on their outdated "old assests" will leave you speachless by the looks of it. Sometimes the only way to retain just a tiny bit of sanity to people like you, is lying, its sad actually.
@@chriscain7333 sure thing bucko.
@@tony4887 anyone can build a better ship than Mexico. I haven't heard much about the Mexican Navy lately 😂😂
In fact, Chinese people cannot purchase most of the most advanced equipment, so buying and replicating it is impossible. Accusations of theft are purely ignorant. A high-end equipment requires components and subsystems from possibly dozens of industries and countless suppliers, involving accumulations of specialized knowledge across numerous industries. It's not something that can be created just by stealing a "blueprint."
In reality, China has simply replicated the cutting-edge development concepts of foreign advanced equipment, avoiding the mistakes made by others. The technological sources are gleaned from international publicly available papers and a wealth of knowledge that can be found through Google, which are then integrated into their own research and development, allowing them to avoid detours in their R&D and reach their target products directly.
I gotta ask. I watch the occasional video of China & Russia military equipment video. Everyone person making the video claims that the equipment works exactly as China or Russia says it works. There is never a “this country claims it is this capable”. We’ve seen in Ukraine none of Russia’s equipment can do what they claim it can do. Why are you so matter of factly convinced this warship is capable of what this video claims it’s capable of?