Updates & Community Suggestions 1) The monastary buildings in Temples has up to +18 plague resistance which is county-wide and also stacks with the Hospices giving up to +43 if you have lv 8 monastary + lv 8 hospital. With 2 temples you'd have +86 plague resistance already and an easy +20 from an excellent court physician! Thanks so much to @gijskramer1702 for pointing this out to me! 2) I forgot to add if you have a mystic trait physician who has 15+ learning and the physician trait, you can take 'mystic' treatment option which is the 'risky' option except no downsides ('risky' success gives you wounds/disfigurement/etc and 'risky' failure is even worse). So you can take that option over the 'safe' option for even better results. Otherwise, in general 'safe' treatment will help you survive with the lowest risk. You just need to survive the infection period so you can become immune/temp immune. 3) If you need more tips on inviting physicians, I have a small section on 'how to invite unwilling persons' in my 'Immortality Guide'. Thanks to DefaultProphet for reminding me about mystic physicians.
Wow I missed such a big easy one, with that you can easily max out the plague resistance. Was it on the march 19 update? I did not see any of these changes in the changelog. Thank you so much for pointing it out. Wow I think when I get home I'm going to just re-upload this video
@@breadgodgaming i think is was in game when the update came out. With big counties you can get close to 100 resistance ones you unlock city planning with the learning lifestyle
Ah yea I totally missed that. My fault for playing theocratic almost exclusively. And I can't even swap this video out without taking the entire thing down :\ I think I will just have to pin your advice
I haven't had as much time to catch up on the latest DLC so I really appreciate your hard work on this! Pretty crazy how low the views are relative to the quality of the video. I hope your channel blows up soon! Keep up the great work.
Thank you for your kind words! I'm honored to be complimented by your esteemed self! I actually have to update this video since the 1.12.5 update changed a lott of things (like I guessed they nerfed the county-wide plague resistance buildings), and making this economy video made me research a lot more on plague prevention
This is a really amazing video. I thought I was over-thinking the plague system but now it makes sense! Do you do any MODing? I've been waiting for someone to make a "Zombie Plague" MOD since the Black Death was announced.
The risky treatment option math is the only one I can't fully understand since I'm not a coder. At the highest, I have it calculated as 90% success (vs 96% for safe), but you can get the wounded trait which makes the health buff almost the same as a safe treatment except you also may get other traits like disfigured etc. So that's why for most players I'd recommend mild. Mystic physicians are super good and you made me realize I did not include that so I may consider re-uploading this video completely. I got complacent since I have an entire section on physicians in my 'Immortality Guide' and I didn't want this video to be too long. Thanks for your input and making me think! I appreciate your time
@@breadgodgaming For the personal treatment of a severe desease (like smallpox or even bubonic plague), I recommend going for the drastic treatment if you have a good court physician and the illness has put you near death, because the drastic treatment will put you all the way back up to fine, while the non riskiy treatment will only get you back up to poor, which means that you can still die each month and that even the slightest mishap that gives you another health penalty will be your end. Additionallly, the drastic treatment has a chance to cure a curable illness instantly, which may be your only chance if you happened to be already at poor health before contracting the illness. The drastic treatment by the way is also good if a character suffers from cancer. I once had a genius character who contracted cancer in his early thirties and had him live up to 65 , when he got the infirm trait on top of the cancer and then died within few months (due to repeated side effects of the risky treatments, he was at that time disfigured, onelegged, oneeyed and castrated, but he was still highly effective in anything that didn't involve physical prowess).
I agree with all the things you have said, I believe the original comment is actually for drastic measures when asked how to manage a plague's treatment. Plague treatment chances are different than disease treatment for a ruler where I wholeheartedly agree a competent mystic physician can always use mystic / drastic treatment for great results.
Do you happen to know how fatalities are calculated? Not sure if it’s abstract people or actual characters dying. Seems a bit weird an apocalyptic plague that is spread all across Italy would only kill 100 people.
Actual characters but there's no easy way to see who died from the plague. You can indirectly see the plague's victims by using the character finder, filtering for disease and tracking all the infected characters (tedious and not feasible). Because how health works in CK3, a lot of victims may survive if the disease only puts everyone into the 'poor' stage. In prior testing of lifespan, when my characters got into the 'poor' stage they on average survived about 2 years before dying. So if the plague you had was only giving a 'severe' penalty then most people will survive versus things like bloody flux/smallpox give a critical/catastrophic penalty
@@TheEbicMaster yea there’s a lot more characters than one might think. People are also constantly coming into and leaving your court and every ruler has a court so that’s a lot of people. With the nee travel system it also spawns a lot more characters as well
Oh for sure and half the time it isn't even your plague so I just ignore it when I notice it's not my title (unless I care about the realm development). Also are the ones where adultery has happened and my faith is clearly accepts adultery from both men and women :\ I was hoping the new update would let us ignore some popups but instead it just changes the popup type for the ones that weren't crazy intrusive anyways.
Hospices (in a city) doesn't seem to spread restistance to other baronies of the county? Mouse over shows it only impact on resistance in the holding/barony itself. Stacking in Countys with lots of baronies doesn't seem to work anymore Edit: They changed it with 1.12.5
often enough i noticed when you have decent diplomacy and or legitimacy you can click the decision to find and just bypass it and just invite them for free, even if you cant often you can pay for them to come and its like 1/2 price then the decision. works with all of them except wetnurse since those are killed for some reason after the decision. guessing they will patch the rest like this later.
You are both correct. In my 'Immortality Guide' I also describe some methods on inviting unwilling courtiers which include 1) marriage using courtier/family/etc 2) abduction 3) seduction 4) hook fabrication 5) imprisonment 6) murdering target's spouse. Subspace666 makes a good point too about legitimacy. Thanks to the new mechanic, there can be a big bonus to marriage acceptance so you can just have the target physician married to one of your courtiers. And yea wet nurses are so weird for me, they disappear the most and I frequently have to hire a new one
@@breadgodgaming not sure if its a coincidence about wetnurse and also them being lowborn, seems the game might be trying to get rid of excess pop for optimization for later game but kinda makes sense that lowborns are less important. maybe wetnurse are created on the fly out of nowhere when you click the decision.
Idk how the optimization works either I used to think that less people meant less calculations since I would always notice the game starts slowing down in the high/late medieval era, but even with black death killing thousands it didn't seem to help me too much. Maybe it's dependent on rulers and their families and courtiers are just a drop in the bucket?
I really don't like the plagues and legends mechanics. Plagues just come by way too often and add little variety and legends also feel samey too me. I really have high hopes for the next dlc though.
I'm currently doing the AIEOU & Me achievement run (start as Werner Hapsburg of Aargau and form Archduchy of Austria without declaring wars) and two generations of my heirs were wiped out by random plagues. Interestingly (RNGesus) ONLY my male kids died, so during both successions realm was horribly split among my daughters (who were matrilineally married luckily). What makes it even more egregious is that the second time around I had THREE sons and four daughters, and ALL THREE sons died. The daughters did not even get the sickness, Almost as if God was desperately trying to avoid a repeat of history lol
Thanks! Since hopitals/temples now only give plague resistance only to the holding they're in, is there any point to building these buildings in secondary baronies (that I don't hold personally) in my counties?
Yes since the infection rate penalties stack per barony for a county so at least building a hospital in the other holdings means avoiding the 80% infection rate at least. Imagine 7 baronies all having the 80% penalty versus 7 with the 50% penalty. TLDR having just hospitals makes it a bit better, but trying to get every barony to 51% is tough unless you optimize for it. I'll have a little section in an economic video on optimizing plague resistance! I'm definitely going to have to add an updated plague video...
Are you referring to my 'superhuman dynasts' comment? That was referring to making a genetics program with your dynasty so that all members of your dynasty have really good genes, especially herculean (huge health boost), pure blooded (small health boost), witch coven (medium disease resistance), and strong blood (small health boost). There is no dynasty legacy that directly increases your health, but indirectly the blood dynasty legacy track promotes a good genetics program. Hope that answers your question!
@@breadgodgaming In Kin legacy 3 there is a medium disease resistance health boost. Clumped together with spouse opinion and fewer pregnancy complications.
Ah yes Kin 3 will give disease resistance. Maybe I should expand the section bigger on the survival part? Thanks for pointing out the permanent buff for the dynasty though.
They seem to have massively nerfed most of this. Both hospitals and monasteries only increase the holding resistance instead of county resistance. So definitely no more stacking. Just means there will always be spots in your own desmene with no plague resistance. Really annoyed by this change.
If they're in your court and you're their responsible guardian (like you're their parent) then you should get a pop up. If for some reason they are not in your court like being tutored at someone else's court then it will fall onto that liege. Sometimes it may be finicky if they're visiting someone or at some event or something it seems to fall on that court's physician which means sometimes randomly your kids get infected wound or something :(
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Updates & Community Suggestions
1) The monastary buildings in Temples has up to +18 plague resistance which is county-wide and also stacks with the Hospices giving up to +43 if you have lv 8 monastary + lv 8 hospital. With 2 temples you'd have +86 plague resistance already and an easy +20 from an excellent court physician! Thanks so much to @gijskramer1702 for pointing this out to me!
2) I forgot to add if you have a mystic trait physician who has 15+ learning and the physician trait, you can take 'mystic' treatment option which is the 'risky' option except no downsides ('risky' success gives you wounds/disfigurement/etc and 'risky' failure is even worse). So you can take that option over the 'safe' option for even better results. Otherwise, in general 'safe' treatment will help you survive with the lowest risk. You just need to survive the infection period so you can become immune/temp immune.
3) If you need more tips on inviting physicians, I have a small section on 'how to invite unwilling persons' in my 'Immortality Guide'. Thanks to DefaultProphet for reminding me about mystic physicians.
The monastairy building in temple holdings also give plague resistance and it stacks with the hospital
Wow I missed such a big easy one, with that you can easily max out the plague resistance. Was it on the march 19 update? I did not see any of these changes in the changelog. Thank you so much for pointing it out. Wow I think when I get home I'm going to just re-upload this video
@@breadgodgaming i think is was in game when the update came out. With big counties you can get close to 100 resistance ones you unlock city planning with the learning lifestyle
Ah yea I totally missed that. My fault for playing theocratic almost exclusively. And I can't even swap this video out without taking the entire thing down :\ I think I will just have to pin your advice
I haven't had as much time to catch up on the latest DLC so I really appreciate your hard work on this! Pretty crazy how low the views are relative to the quality of the video. I hope your channel blows up soon! Keep up the great work.
Totally agree! All of his videos are such high quality and deserve wayyyy more views! Also I love your Bannerlord content!
@@Kelvyyy thanks!
Thank you for your kind words! I'm honored to be complimented by your esteemed self!
I actually have to update this video since the 1.12.5 update changed a lott of things (like I guessed they nerfed the county-wide plague resistance buildings), and making this economy video made me research a lot more on plague prevention
I wish you best. Good videos, chill voice, great info in simple words.
Thank you for your continued support!
Great video as always, keep the good work up! soon 2k subs!
Thank you for your kind words!
was looking forward to someone explaining this stuff thanks a bunch!
Glad it was helpful!
Great breakdown, very useful. I'll keep spamming hospices in my barons holdings 😁
Provides more insight than the developer of the game lol
Thank you for your kind words!
This is a really amazing video. I thought I was over-thinking the plague system but now it makes sense! Do you do any MODing? I've been waiting for someone to make a "Zombie Plague" MOD since the Black Death was announced.
Thank you for your kind words and support! Unfortunately, I have no experience in modding but that does sound like a great idea!
Hey dude, random tip - Take the Blademaster Accolade to near guarantee some extra disease resistance via Blademaster.
Love your content bro.
Thank you for your support! Great tip! I underuse the accolades a lot!
Best guide ever, as always! Thank you for your hard work
Thank you for your kind words and support! It's my pleasure to work hard for you all :)
With a good or above physician I think I’ve had drastic measures go wrong maybe 5% of the time? Like it’s shocking when it doesn’t work
The risky treatment option math is the only one I can't fully understand since I'm not a coder. At the highest, I have it calculated as 90% success (vs 96% for safe), but you can get the wounded trait which makes the health buff almost the same as a safe treatment except you also may get other traits like disfigured etc. So that's why for most players I'd recommend mild.
Mystic physicians are super good and you made me realize I did not include that so I may consider re-uploading this video completely. I got complacent since I have an entire section on physicians in my 'Immortality Guide' and I didn't want this video to be too long. Thanks for your input and making me think! I appreciate your time
To be fair, I never bother on construction of plague-fighting buildings. Just get an Excellent Physician and Drastic Solucion
@@breadgodgaming For the personal treatment of a severe desease (like smallpox or even bubonic plague), I recommend going for the drastic treatment if you have a good court physician and the illness has put you near death, because the drastic treatment will put you all the way back up to fine, while the non riskiy treatment will only get you back up to poor, which means that you can still die each month and that even the slightest mishap that gives you another health penalty will be your end. Additionallly, the drastic treatment has a chance to cure a curable illness instantly, which may be your only chance if you happened to be already at poor health before contracting the illness.
The drastic treatment by the way is also good if a character suffers from cancer. I once had a genius character who contracted cancer in his early thirties and had him live up to 65 , when he got the infirm trait on top of the cancer and then died within few months (due to repeated side effects of the risky treatments, he was at that time disfigured, onelegged, oneeyed and castrated, but he was still highly effective in anything that didn't involve physical prowess).
I agree with all the things you have said, I believe the original comment is actually for drastic measures when asked how to manage a plague's treatment. Plague treatment chances are different than disease treatment for a ruler where I wholeheartedly agree a competent mystic physician can always use mystic / drastic treatment for great results.
This is exactly the video i needed afrer loosing 3/4ths of house Hvitserk to consumption...
Do you happen to know how fatalities are calculated? Not sure if it’s abstract people or actual characters dying. Seems a bit weird an apocalyptic plague that is spread all across Italy would only kill 100 people.
Actual characters but there's no easy way to see who died from the plague. You can indirectly see the plague's victims by using the character finder, filtering for disease and tracking all the infected characters (tedious and not feasible). Because how health works in CK3, a lot of victims may survive if the disease only puts everyone into the 'poor' stage. In prior testing of lifespan, when my characters got into the 'poor' stage they on average survived about 2 years before dying. So if the plague you had was only giving a 'severe' penalty then most people will survive versus things like bloody flux/smallpox give a critical/catastrophic penalty
@@breadgodgaming thank you! Didn’t realize 1066 Sardinia had so many characters. Wish paradox added more visible statistics like they had in EU4z
@@TheEbicMaster yea there’s a lot more characters than one might think. People are also constantly coming into and leaving your court and every ruler has a court so that’s a lot of people. With the nee travel system it also spawns a lot more characters as well
Plagues add so much micromanagement... Constant popups, physician pestering you to care for the sick, courtiers dying, champions dying, heirs dying.
Oh for sure and half the time it isn't even your plague so I just ignore it when I notice it's not my title (unless I care about the realm development). Also are the ones where adultery has happened and my faith is clearly accepts adultery from both men and women :\ I was hoping the new update would let us ignore some popups but instead it just changes the popup type for the ones that weren't crazy intrusive anyways.
Hospices (in a city) doesn't seem to spread restistance to other baronies of the county? Mouse over shows it only impact on resistance in the holding/barony itself. Stacking in Countys with lots of baronies doesn't seem to work anymore
Edit: They changed it with 1.12.5
I would rather marry a courtier or knight to a physician. It's easier and more economical than using the decision to find a physician.
often enough i noticed when you have decent diplomacy and or legitimacy you can click the decision to find and just bypass it and just invite them for free, even if you cant often you can pay for them to come and its like 1/2 price then the decision. works with all of them except wetnurse since those are killed for some reason after the decision. guessing they will patch the rest like this later.
You are both correct. In my 'Immortality Guide' I also describe some methods on inviting unwilling courtiers which include 1) marriage using courtier/family/etc 2) abduction 3) seduction 4) hook fabrication 5) imprisonment 6) murdering target's spouse. Subspace666 makes a good point too about legitimacy. Thanks to the new mechanic, there can be a big bonus to marriage acceptance so you can just have the target physician married to one of your courtiers. And yea wet nurses are so weird for me, they disappear the most and I frequently have to hire a new one
@@breadgodgaming not sure if its a coincidence about wetnurse and also them being lowborn, seems the game might be trying to get rid of excess pop for optimization for later game but kinda makes sense that lowborns are less important. maybe wetnurse are created on the fly out of nowhere when you click the decision.
Idk how the optimization works either I used to think that less people meant less calculations since I would always notice the game starts slowing down in the high/late medieval era, but even with black death killing thousands it didn't seem to help me too much. Maybe it's dependent on rulers and their families and courtiers are just a drop in the bucket?
Sometimes a good physician pops up not very often
I really don't like the plagues and legends mechanics.
Plagues just come by way too often and add little variety and legends also feel samey too me.
I really have high hopes for the next dlc though.
I think it needs some tweaking for sure, but yea I'm also super excited for the next one!!
I'm currently doing the AIEOU & Me achievement run (start as Werner Hapsburg of Aargau and form Archduchy of Austria without declaring wars) and two generations of my heirs were wiped out by random plagues. Interestingly (RNGesus) ONLY my male kids died, so during both successions realm was horribly split among my daughters (who were matrilineally married luckily). What makes it even more egregious is that the second time around I had THREE sons and four daughters, and ALL THREE sons died. The daughters did not even get the sickness,
Almost as if God was desperately trying to avoid a repeat of history lol
I do enjoy the new plagues they add a lot of uncertainty and mess things up for sure. Your story is great and reflects why I love this game haha
Thanks! Since hopitals/temples now only give plague resistance only to the holding they're in, is there any point to building these buildings in secondary baronies (that I don't hold personally) in my counties?
Yes since the infection rate penalties stack per barony for a county so at least building a hospital in the other holdings means avoiding the 80% infection rate at least. Imagine 7 baronies all having the 80% penalty versus 7 with the 50% penalty. TLDR having just hospitals makes it a bit better, but trying to get every barony to 51% is tough unless you optimize for it. I'll have a little section in an economic video on optimizing plague resistance!
I'm definitely going to have to add an updated plague video...
There are also health boosts in the Dynasties legacy?
Are you referring to my 'superhuman dynasts' comment? That was referring to making a genetics program with your dynasty so that all members of your dynasty have really good genes, especially herculean (huge health boost), pure blooded (small health boost), witch coven (medium disease resistance), and strong blood (small health boost). There is no dynasty legacy that directly increases your health, but indirectly the blood dynasty legacy track promotes a good genetics program. Hope that answers your question!
@@breadgodgaming
In Kin legacy 3 there is a medium disease resistance health boost.
Clumped together with spouse opinion and fewer pregnancy complications.
Ah yes Kin 3 will give disease resistance. Maybe I should expand the section bigger on the survival part? Thanks for pointing out the permanent buff for the dynasty though.
FOR THE ALGORITHM!
They seem to have massively nerfed most of this. Both hospitals and monasteries only increase the holding resistance instead of county resistance. So definitely no more stacking. Just means there will always be spots in your own desmene with no plague resistance. Really annoyed by this change.
How about the other characters if son, daughter got infected how to treat ?
If they're in your court and you're their responsible guardian (like you're their parent) then you should get a pop up. If for some reason they are not in your court like being tutored at someone else's court then it will fall onto that liege. Sometimes it may be finicky if they're visiting someone or at some event or something it seems to fall on that court's physician which means sometimes randomly your kids get infected wound or something :(
I am the Oracle of Radical Truth. That's why I did so many push-ups in the Army ... because I couldn't keep my big mouth shut.
I really enjoy reading all the posts from the lil whiners who cant handle it.
Boring voice ... epically critical information!
Haha I'm sorry I try to record on the weekends but my voice is still dry. I work a service job and I talk alll day. One day I will be able to record with a fresh voice every video :) Thank you for your support and for serving in the army!
@@breadgodgaming You should learn into it. Become the Bob Ross of CK3 tutorials.