all-new Seat Leon FR 1.5 eTSI FULL REVIEW driving 2020 - Autogefühl
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- This is our in-depth review of the all-new Seat Leon FR 1.5 eTSI. We're taking a look at Exterior, Interior and the driving experience.
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Hi Thomas , now that you drove the new seat leon and the new golf 8 . Which car would you choose if you needed to buy a new car nowdays? By the way may i ask which car you drive ? Thank you in advance :)
who needs the golf anymore? this is the same car, a lil bit cheaper and much better looking🤷🏼♂️
Or you could have a Octavia, which is also cheaper, better looking and bigger.
Pershoo but the Leon Estate is now bigger then the Octavia
But does it drive better for my taste? That is my main concern. If not, I'll buy the Golf.
Lightning Farron seriously? they are the exact same car, just different designed, so they drive the same depending on the suspension you’re choosing
@@dr-ok3sn That is not true. The Octavia is still bigger.
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The very first review of the new leon on the open world! Congrats.
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Personally I prefer the physical buttons, especially for the climate unit.
SEAT's progress in recent years has been incredible. This car is as good as Golf, if not better. Yes.
I think the Golf feels a bit more higher quality inside. Materials and noise levels are better, the suspension I like more. I don't have the sportier suspension of FR model, but it's still tougher. Also it makes a bit of weird sounds like squeaks and creaks during drive, Golf has none of that.
For the price though, I don't think it's a bad car at all.
@@disadadi8958Its a Killer car at top spec, Excellence Lux 👌🏻
Autogefül is the only real european car reviewer that's worth watching ! Thanks a lot !
welcome =)
As ever, a very thorough, clear and informative review, Thomas. I like it how you always keep your reviews very factual, too many journalists in the UK think that they’re also comedians. They’re not! So thank you!
I’m a big fan of the Leon, I have a 2016 Leon ST and plan to replace it in 2 years’ time with either new Leon or new Octavia; I’m keen to see how you think they compare
Thx m8! ST next week. Octavia tomorrow already
Autogefühl Brilliant! I’ll look forward to that 👍🏼
true and always using Ford focus as the best thing to drive since slice bread. well done Volkswagen for giving us this gem on a budget...
What a beautiful car to look at, from all sides. Well done Seat. Thanks Thomas for the review!
thanks Marcus!
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This channel is so underrated. Should have more than a million subs by now
thanks so much, please spread the word =) We dont have big budget or venture capital n shit, we just have us and you guys
@Autogefühl I will broo. Keep it uppp!!!
I'm with you on the physical buttons. I find myself reaching for the volume knob of the radio, or climate control buttons, while I have the speech control, touch screen and buttons on the steering wheel also. It's just a more natural feel
Wish we got this beautiful car in Australia. Big fan of SEAT.
you are living in Australia and want to ride seat? lmao how tasteless are you? (wrote on bmw 520)
@@phoenix1453 I'd rather drive a Seat than a BMW.
BMW is the car for old chaps, or the old models go for young dickheads. I'd rather not drive one. Also there's no reason to pay extra for the brand, it doesn't feel any more premium than other cars in the same size group, although BMW is undoubtedly more expensive.
finally some design guts from VAG. really like the rear
Beautiful car this new Leon! 😍😍
As a Leon FR 2.0 2019 owner these are my impressions of the new design:
- Front looks better, the grill and front bumper make the car seem more "muscular".
- Rear looks worse, the shape up top makes it look like a crossover rather than a sporty hatchback, and the fake exhaust tips are just blah.
- The interior looks more modern, though sticking a tablet in the center console makes it seem like an afterthought in the design. AC vents look much better
- These weird touch buttons for the vents and fans seem less practical and harder to use while driving.
Couldn’t have said it better, it is more of a crossover than a sporty hatch now, and why is the FR trim looking so vanilla now ?
That rear is horrible, with the fake exhausts, the comic sans font on "leon". Enough reason not to buy it.
@@pietvelkens219 I don't like the silly "leon" text font either but that is definitely not comic sans lol
I love this car.. Thank you, Thomas!
Spain & Germany. Great 👍🏻
Arriba España
@@adrimonty3601 Flamenco in Lederhosen
I really dig this journalist's style.
Brilliant knew I could count on Thomas to review the new leon first.
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I am waiting for this rewiew on this channel since that car was officially released. Good job! And it is the motor i am interrested in too, great!
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We always enjoy your introduction of new auto .
Very efficient car, we had a 2021 Leon FR 1.5 eTSI as a rental for 4 days, 4 people with luggages, averaged 6.22L/100km in Scottish highlands with mountain passes!
Is it reliable?
I had the Sport Tourer version of this car as a holiday rental. The Lane keep assist was so annoying as it was constantly complaining for no reason. The infotainment wasn’t great either and I really wish they had a drive select button as I was having to go into the display while driving which isn’t safe. Also found the trip computer difficult to activate and use. Took me ages. Other than that it was a good drive and I found the fuel economy of the hybrid power train very good.
Thomas - super testing videos 🚘👍👍👍
appreciated =)
Thomas do great extensive tests-videos, test some Ferrari, Lamborghini🚘👌
Great review as usual.
I agree with everything reviewed, not keen on the touch interface, apart from that I really like it.
Looks good, not to fond of the entertainment system like you said. Clima needs buttons and knobs damnit! 😅 Can't wait for your review on the Octavia, hopefully the combi 🤞
How often do you actually fiddle around with the climate control when you have an automatic one? On Volvo I never touched it, and on other models I might adjust the temperature but that's about it.
Hahaha Autogefuhl fake exhaust police - had me laughing! Love the looks of Leon, shame about multilink not available on 150 PS versions. Love the design overall especially the rear. Interesting thing about the LEON lettering at the back - they had 40 different sytles and in the end opted for this one. Not a huge fan of it but maybe we'll get used to it. Cheers Thomas and the whole team
=) thanks!
When is there going to be a review of the mk4 Octavia?!
Yes! Later this week
@@autogefuehl You are the best!
Thomas, regarding lane assist option. You need to activate additional dynamic option to enjoy what you want to achieve - to keep auto between two lines without floating from line to line.
I have the previous gen and regrettably won't be staying with the new Leon. Niether the interior or exterior do it for me and that entertainment unit/lack of physical controls is a major drawback for me. SEAT as a brand has been great but the overall homogenizing look and feel of VWG cars just doesn't cut it any more for me.
Owen Roberts what are you going for then?
@@lkfldfadf well, it was going the be an A Class, love the new A class. But, now, more than likely a Kona EV as due to mobility issues and other things, it's easier to get in/out of (and cheaper) to go for the Hynudai.
I like the fact it has no buttons, much cleaner lines. Ordered the same model after your review, receive it Thursday ;)
i am fan of physical buttons also :) also about mild hybrid, if electrical parts in engine, then it should be only plugin hybrid or electric car...
The mild hybrid seems to be for sporty cars that need their CO2 emisions reduced by all means due to new EU regulations.
Ford Puma
Mazda 2 & 3
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@@DanRyzESPUK it's good
Your knowledge is very in depth and impressive. Good work!
I appreciate that!
+1 for the quality of the review AND the music taste
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The suspension seems hard because the car is always shaking. The Golf 8 is so diferent.....can't imagine how should be Cupra version!
I also notice shaking of camera during Thomas ride even in local road that was lined with residential buildings.
One more amazing presentation from Thomas! I was expecting from thomas to be here at Greece for new Skoda presentation:(((
Yeah...
Thomas thanks for the interesting review! I am sure this is the best generation of Seat Leon, after the first model, it is beautiful)
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The new Audi A3 and the new Seat Leon are the best cars in the segment) These are the best cars in the class of the VAG concern!..which can not be said about the new Golf and Octavia(((
You are the first interviewer of almost every German cars and we are very happy for this.
HOWEVER, please don't take your phone and its untidy cable on the center of the console 😡 We want to see the car with its pure design elements but I can't focus it due to your phone's interrupt.
THANK YOU...
Absolutely despise all the touch controls, way harder to use while driving and less pratical. More and more brands are going to extremely impratical controlls to make them look flashy, this needs to stop
The lack of buttons and knobs is disturbing, but I am not surprised as control surfaces have been trending this way. We won't see this model in the USA, but the GTI will be sold here and all I see are touch surfaces. I can't imagine how these controls made it past any usability tests / reviews.
Like the position on lane depature warning lights. Also the best overall car size for my taste from the set of Golf/A3/Octavia/Leon.
better looking than new golf , still have the leon cupra 290 in old shape my pocket rocket. just thinking does it look like opel/vauxhall astra ??
Big letters are something you miss from elementary school.
Thanks for your great review. Interesting to know how quiet is the leon in comparison with the G8 and A3 2020.
Great channel for car reviews, Thomas is my new favourite car reviewer !
Better design than golf
but also ugly.
looks much better than golf
its so much better then the new golf, and its cheaper
But it's got the same bad touch control clima control, which should be banned in all car IMO.
The new A3 has the best controllers
THOMAS: 👮
“You know why I pulled you over?”
ME: 😱
“No, sir. Was I speeding?”
THOMAS: 👮
“I noticed some fake exhausts on your car. Mind coming with me to the station?”
ME: 😢
“But, officer, this brand is known for putting fake exhausts. Can't you let me go, please?
THOMAS: 👮
“Not with all those fake intakes as well.”
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You can tap the temperature slider with two fingers to activate the seat heating. No need to use the screen for that.
I owned the previous generation Cupra 300 and I loved it. I really like what they've done with the exterior and interior design, ultra modern and clean.
Could be my next car!
Quality review as always! The car looks sleek and seems to a fun driving experience 😊
Love your reviews Autogefühl and Thomas!
Would you pick the new Leon FR with all extra equipment or Ford Focus ST-Line with all equipment? :D
Ford Focus. Drives better and has Air-conditioning knobs instead all incorporated in screen. Also bang and olufsen audio system
Well, Focus drives well but i feel more attached to Leon seats and interior - except no physical buttons for ac!
Maybe it will turn out to be a good thing safety wise if we are taught to not even look at the infotainment system while driving. Voice control needs to be excellent, though.
Great video Thomas and the team , I personally think and i feel the Skoda Octavia is more desirable ,
testing tomorrow!
Put the new Leon FR on order yesterday so even before this great Thomas review. It is due to be delivered to Finland late July. The prices have gone up with the quality and assistence systems so they are quite near BMW 1 series which also drives great. I chose the new Leon based on the good experinces from the previous generation model, decent fuel economy and many maintenance options because the VW parts. Also the wide led stripe on the back is first for this price level for German manufacturers. Even the new A3 do not have it. It is good that they have made programming changes to the DSG. The previous model was quite clumsy compared eg with the new Magna transmission of the 118i BMW. There are however some downsides with the new Leon I am ready to accept. Firstly the design of the cockpit and front cabin with the non integrated center screen and Audi A3 like airvents on either side look like a product of teenage designer. Why couldn't they continue with the elegant lines of the predecessor? Secondly the front lights are not so innovative for 2020 as the old version's front LED lights were in 2012. The new full LED should have more light power. On the other hand they do not have matrix function which the Golf have available. Also the animated turning indicator is only available on the back. Something Thomas have not commented is the feeling of the brake pedal. Some media like eg the Finnish Teknavi has commented that the improved brake with storage of braking power of VW Golf feels unnatural when starting to hit the pedal for the first centimeters. I wonder would Thomas get these first driving test cars and nice test trips (when the Covid situation again allows) to Ibiza 🏖️ and other nice locations if he would be very critical on other more serious things than the fake exhausts.. (compared to the overly chrome detailed Xellence even the fake exhausts of FR look great). Also some core information is missing: Does the 1.5 eTSI still have torsion beam on the back axle. The torsion beam is very sturdy and not easy to get broken eg on road bumps. However in some situation such as tight curves it made the previous model sometimes loose the grip on winter conditions. All in all, the new Leon seems like another step up for SEAT. Interesting to see how people react to the elevated prices. Many Thanks Thomas for reviewing this car yourself! Keep up the good work!
Thanks for the feedback!!
Thanks a lot for the information on the rear suspension. That is also a step up for this model too. Also one thing which you could do on an eventual upcoming ST version review is to tell more about the security function of the wrap around cabin led stripe. It seems quite handy that it eg blinks yellow when blind spot detection detects passing car. I think it is a big plus to more conventional solution where only a light in the side mirror indicates this. PS. Where to shop for those extremely cool NIKE sneakers shown during the back seat review..👟
I just re-checked: Golf and A3: 150 INCLUDING and more hp: Multilink rear axle/suspension. Leon: 150 hp still torsion, only MORE than 150 hp = Multilink. So the 1.5 TSI car here does only have torsion beam in the rear. Weird.
oh and these sneakers are from the factory outlet in roermond =)
Thanx for the suspension update. As mentioned the torsion beam don't get broken even handled roughly.. 💣Great buys from this outlet of yours. Central and Southern Europe is better for getting good pairs of NIKEs. I good pairs with nice designs when working some months in Croatia.
Ganz toller Test, weiter so! Auch sehr sympathischer Moderator
Witaj Tomku! Oglądam Twoje recenzje z ogromną przyjemnością. Rzadko dziś spotykana elokwencja, kultura osobista i merytoryczny przekaz sprawiają, że na tle innych Twoje filmy są wyjątkowe :) Pozdrawiam!
I z niecierpliwością czekam na test wersji Cupra.
thanks m8 - unfortunately Polish language got lost - hats off the greetings though =)
The Leon FR estate will be a big contender for my next car , up against the Focus St line 👍
I like the way SEAT aren't afraid to change things up but this isn't quite doing it for me. I liked the Mk3 immediately and ended up buying one, definitely no regrets. Still interested to see how the Cupra looks though
What Shoes are those? They seem comfortable?
Hello everyone,i think that Leon in front looks too much like Mazda mixing Hyundai and Ford design and don't like it but interior is great.Thank you Thomas for presentation and all informations about the model👍
thanks for supporting us!
@@autogefuehl You have my support for years,don't worry😀I really appreciate your good work😎
I don’t know how it works in the seat but in my VW Tiguan I can change how the lane assist behaves. Either with lane centering or just lane keep, with lane keep it just steers you back if you start to drive of the lane. The lane centering steers you in a natural way in the middle of the lane. Maybe it’s the same with the seat?
In the infotainment unit ?
Autogefühl Yes, under car settings. Think it’s called adaptive lane assist in the Tiguan
@@autogefuehl Would love to hear an update on this if you're able to test it 🤞
I ll search the infotainment unit in the ST next week
The front looks good, the rear looks good, the side profile is the weak spot of the Leon.
such a gorgeous affordable machine...well done VW👏👏👏
I like the rear design and is recognizable as SEAT, however the front half is 100% current gen Ford Focus. Wouldn't be a problem but the interior is anti-user, it's terrible. Even otherwise fiddling with the touchscreen or worse the touch pads is convoluted and dangerous if driving, they are completely unusable with gloves. Shameless cost cutting.
SHROOMY agree with you - the front end has lost the seat design language. The edgy trapezoid headlights of the previous gen were distinctive and unique, and they should have evolved them. Instead they’ve gone for a very generic off the peg design that is reminiscent of many Japanese and Korean models. The Mitsubishi Evo certainly springs to mind. The Ford Focus lost its way in the same fashion.
I don't like the screen in the middle, it would be much nicer if the screen could slide in the panel.
Cheers, Thomas. 🤗😎 Hopefully you are doing well. Pretty nice Seat. 🤗
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Great review my friend id buy this over the vw golf
cheers!
Most Beautiful Golf 8 Version ;)
why no one show us the new leon with seats alcantra and the boot electric and all the best thinks in the new leon?
Hi Autogefuhl, thanks for the great review. I'm currently looking for a new car and the Leon ST is one of the contenders. What I always like about your reviews is that you mention the dimensions of the boot. As the Leon ST isn't yet in the showrooms in Holland I'm waiting for your video about it (especially the dimensions of the boot) before ordering the car. Can't wait. Again, great job with the video.
thanks! Just been shooting the ST today, will be airing this week still !
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Great video as always. Which would you choose between the seat leon and the mazda 3?
Nice review!Do you think it's worth upgrading to 10 inch screen or the 8.25 screen is enough?
Very in depth review as usual! I like this car, it has a more distinctive look than the Golf in my opinion. But I’m quite disappointed by the climate control without physical buttons, same for the driving modes. Even Mercedes with the MBUX still has left normal controls for A/C, driving modes and has many shortcuts with normal buttons. What about the CNG version? Does it come with 1.5 + DSG and is it going to have a multilink suspension? Thanks
Thanks! Ur question: Yes/Dunno/No
Autogefühl thanks
I just checked with Seat to confirm: PHEV does come with multilink! But the TGI/CNG obviously not.
Loved the review Thomas! Will you review the Cupra Leon when it comes out? Do you think it will not have gas struts as well?
Sure we will! I dont think any of these will receive gas struts
Best car reviews on You Tube 👍
With this car golf8 does not look that ugly and useless anymore. It feels like they made a step back internally and externally. Touch controls are just stupid!
Well this car is now directed to family comfort (more room inside) and autobahn ride, this chassis long wheel base is better for it, about the exterior it remembers me a Seat/Ford focus front and kia proceed rear end (fake exhausts no...), about the interior: nice air vents, but a very confusing entertainment system controls, better console integration without piano vw black parts. Not my taste, but overall good build quality car The best part is at 7.30 Good Thomas vibe!
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Nice car 👍 better than new A3
hate the shift paddle fixed on the steering wheel, they are moving with it, so you never really know were they are. In my opinion it would be better to fix them behind.
It's a matter of getting used to it. For example the dashboard without real buttons. The long rear light, is looking similar to other brands.
Can you please tell which car you would choose ? The Leon FR or the best Golf overall? I cant decide which car to buy ( money is not an issue )
Pumping up, yo - never gets old :)
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Really good looking car, it's a shame we can't get the eTSI engine with manual gearbox at the moment. In Spain you get an ECO emission sticker for mild hybrids while the regular gasoline engine gets a C class sticker (more restrictions for city driving). I see in Germany you get a "4" emission sticker for both cases.
Tomas i need to ask u the new seat leon have beats sound like in the leon mk3 in 2019?
Nice, detailed review as always but you forgot to report about DSG in manual mode... I would like to see watch going on there!
Is DSG7 DQ200 0CW good?
To be honest I must say that the Leon’s interior design is much better than the golfs for me
Thomas, new SEAT Leon Fr 150HP or Mercedes A-class A180 AMG? (Both of them Auto) Hug from Barcelona 👍
Lane assist works perfectly only if you use the cruise control. Roads under Construction are not a good ground for such test - for your safety first and then for a fair assessment.
I test the very same construction site with many different cars - so it is a fair comparison. A lot of cars do manage
Hello, great review! One question - mutlilink at the back for version that have MORE than 150 HP? Is that correct?
Thanks! Yeah, re-watch the review, I explained that in detail also differences Golf, A3, Octavia, Leon etc
@@autogefuehl thanks, will do :)
@@autogefuehl thanks :) Found the full explanation on your Octavia review, thank you very much :)
I'm not surprised that Octavia os the one with the longer wheelbase, I'm surprised that they did it to Leon, shorter wheelbase makes cars feel more nimble and Seat was meant to be the sportier one. Stiff suspension doesn't make a car sporty.
Great value for money I think
Ich finde es sehr gut dass ihr auch genauer auf das Licht eingeht👍
Opel Astra?
The LANE KEEPING would drive my crazy!!! So loud and you have to switch it off EVERYTIME you start the car!? That's idiotic... Also touch screen to change air flow of climate control or heated seats?? Why that's just stupid...
New cars could be so great without the IDIOT PROOF gadgets it's so sad...
Petr Koblovsky exactly, the lane keep assist has to be the worst invention ever, crazy annoying. Sadly other manufactures are doing the same.
Buy a car that do not have these. Simple.
Thanks for your review and congratulations at the same time. I have a question. Is the 1.5 Tsi Leon's rear suspension system independent? Thank you for your attention in advance.
I just re-checked: Golf and A3: 150 INCLUDING and more hp: Multilink rear axle/suspension. Leon: 150 hp still torsion, only MORE than 150 hp = Multilink. So the 1.5 TSI car here does only have torsion beam in the rear. Weird.
@@autogefuehl thank you for the information. 👍👍👍
inside terior with sharp lines reminds me on cars from 70-s like renault 4 or citroens ,golf 1 and similar
Great review Thomas and nice looking Leon. But I won't be buying any car that has climate control buttons etc. removed leaving a touch screen only. This is a dangerous move as it requires the driver to look at the touch screen to operate it, while also pressing the touch screen several times to make a simple adjustment. Surprisingly even Volvo, which is all into safety, has done away with buttons. Best wishes.
Even still, all touch screen would be better but this Leon has those touch sensitive slider controls like the new Golf which are even worse.
Thanks! As i said i also prefer manual knobs
Yes, great Review as always - many thanks Thomas. Yes, interesting how Volvo 'is all into safety'. Though for every new Volvo you have to pay about £1,500 extra for BLIS! You'd have thought they'd fit it standard and be one up on other manufacturers, but no. As Andy says, new Volvos have a big touch screen. As one car journalist summed up a Volvo: Pros and Cons of touch screens? For: good touch screen! Against: the idea of a touch screen in a car isn't good! Anyway, best wishes.
@@johncollymore1697 Hi John. Also, I think it was an online mechanic that said touch screens are "great for manufacturers as they are more cost effective to produce (and they look good) but they will be expensive to replace when some eventually fail as the car ages". A win/win for manufacturers.