Me too, Jason 😥 But im not going to let it get me down tho cause that's what Satan wants. We already living it may as well face it like warriors with heart and no fear. Im not perfect but I choose Lord Jesus over everything. My Savior, My King 👑 My Beloved🤗💕💖
It’s everywhere!!! Look at police force!!! All these uniform body been abusing their power n privilege given to them!!!! How can this happen?? In 2020? Can u imagine couple decades ago? Ok
@@mpalmer7800 we do have some cops who get in trouble, it's easier for us to put in complaints. With the military it's a different breed where even locals cops don't get access to investigate. Military even has there own in house court system.
The problem with that is in order to be "prosecuted", there must be criminal culpability. That is an element which is almost impossible to prove unless they were directly involved in her murder or their negligence was intentional and so callous that any reasonable person would know that such negligence would likely put this soldier in grave danger of physical harm. Good luck proving any of that in a court of law.
And what would you have had them do. Women in the military these days throw around sexual abuse allegations, like it were candy. They have created this atmosphere of non-belief.
@@k-stackz3577 You are dumb and don't follow up on things, she was sexually abused and murdered also high rank officials were doing as much as possible to ignore and cover-up the issue.
@@joeyboyy6381 I am not commenting on the unfortunate death of the woman...The Mainstream news is the enemy of the American people...and not one word isa rhetorical. Literal. ABC included. So nobody did a "number on me", lol.
@@Teporame Soldiers are well aware of issues within our ranks and I don't know a single one that excused anything about the way they handled this at Fort Hood. Fort Hood has been known to be corrupt before this. Sex trafficking rings, drugs, etc. There was constant talk about her case all over bases when it happened and people were outraged. Sadly, social media was a big reason why this case was solved. Attention on cases like this highlight corrupt leadership in the Army and bring about negative feelings from the public. What's fucked up is that this case went without serious investigation for so long because Fort Hood didn't care until it gained attention across social media.
@@Teporame truth. Army leaders do t want to lose careers. That's 100% always why these things are kept quiet. They don't rrally care about sexual harassment, and assault, they care about their careers. That's it. Nothing else.
My dad was a recruiter twice, once in the 70s and again in the early 80s. He told me he would never allow me to join the army or marines because they didn't protect their women or treat them well enough. He said at the time he thought maybe the navy and air force did a bit better. I never forgot that and here's a prime example.
Bottom line; army would be nothing without their recruits. Between Govts, politicians, an entire Govt body that has too many chiefs and not enough Indians, conglomerate businesses, and our "so called" country leaders are full of S----. None of them are accountable.
@Mark Owusu exactly these are MURDERS not some random type of disappearance, this is my problem with people in the ranks, and who are superior to others because they can unrightfully treat you like a second class citizen because you made a couple of mistakes.
I had a friend that was murdered in the Coast Guard it was covered up and his parents were paid off to keep quite. He was a great young man and I'm proud to say I was his friend. R.I.P. Tommy Crandon.
The Feres Doctrine makes it illegal to sue the military. It allows so many coverups and abuse by leadership. I'm stationed at Ft Hood and while I haven't personally experienced sexual assault, it would surprise me if it isn't even more widespread than this report indicated. Leadership treats enlisted soldiers like slaves there.
He shot himself when authorities came looking for him. He was a coward and died like one. The process the Army has in place to report these issues isn't working. Its like its a check in the box to say they have a system in place
The investigation should take a fair amount of time, to find evidence of guilt and innocence. I agree the killer should be in prison, and anyone who hid it.
V 8 what does Green cards and abuse have to do with each other? The United States was inhabited by Red Indians. They were aniailated by causiasian settlers. Green card holders are vetted and most of the time fulfill a need that the country needs. So before you comment and show your ignorance visit the Homeland Security website and the Census site. Learn about the US government policies and do further reading from the institutions that formulated these policies and laws; why.
I think and i may be mistaken so still research but i think they declared an investigation maybe a week after major news coverage and then everything got drowned out by the rest of the 2020 bag of bricks
Every person you see addicted to Opiates has been victimized by someone and many by a Doctor. FBI agents investigating the drug dealing doctors understand victims And look this beautiful family In anguish, desperately needing answers. It is sad to watch anywhere people are being hurt, ignored dismissed. Overwhelmed with sadness for the loss of their loved one, It is a problem I hope Joe Biden does not dismiss and Hopefully Biden will continue the push for Justice, women do not have to die just because some man finds them attractive, or destroy her life for not kissing his..
@ Megan Perkins, Some People in the military go AWOL(absent without leave) for what ever reason. The military doesn't go looking for them, they just put out a warrant for their arrest.So if any L.E. stop them they get arrested and returned to the military. That's probably why these people weren't found out about until this young Army woman's body was discovered.
@MegaJf16 no they fired the other leadership becauss that wasn't the first reported cas of sexual assault on that base, Fort Hood is well known for having the worst leadership
Nope. We all know set ups are for taking food tops to bottoms and keeping rewards as in method changes. So it's one thing knowing guilds..if we are sure it's that top. Before him what took place? I was there 1983...the streets were filled at close town. They cleaned up after some insight to some visitors around March...1984. There was a topic for then and before about how to stop the abuse of women. They had no money...back to the drawing board. What has changed since..those seeing borders as the enemies friend..then the deaths were found more So. We want independent investigating and reasoning it's about knowledge. Who applied what to the statistics? It's been enact I think
@@ssherrierable You can Google this statistic: How many american soldiers die each year. On average, this amounts to approximately 913 non-war- related deaths each year (excluding 2020). Personnel perished in more than 70 countries (and at sea), with the majority (93%) of deaths occurring in the United States.Jul 1, 2020
My husband and I were in Fort Hood recently. It is sickening how true all of this is! There is so much corruption and sexual harassment in the Military. Especially Fort Hood.
I was stationed there from 2000-2003. It hasnt changed then It hasnt changed when I retired in 2014 and now in 2023 nothing has changed. you replace one toxic command team and now enters a new toxic command team. nothing will change unless you embedd an operative to do some time in the unit and observe.
It would be better if someone was actually charged with her murder not just fired.... Guillen would have known the difference between a specialist and a sergeant.
There was an arrest in the case. The one who killed Vanessa committed suicide as he was being arrested. The woman who helped him is in jail pending trial..
that IS watt light bulb the Virus is for.. no army assH or rapist has been put to death as was the law during Nam and WW2.../ it will be easier to use the Virus, er Hoax, so that there are NO charges.. no one will go to jail if and when any of the Bloodlines of the military types.. no flagged ass is safe from being Purged... so stay inside and if u know someone that is infected.. U might bet that that person might well take out as many military traitors as they can meet.. no charges will be laid by any cop.. God Bless and be safe.. // note that 99% of the recruits would not use deadly force to protect their body from a traitor
The guy killed himself when he was questioned about the girls where about he knew they were on to him. And killed himself his girlfriend was arrested who help him carry, burn, and burry that girl
Nowadays many specialists think they're sergeants, and many sergeants act like specialists. The military really needs restore respect and accountability of the leadership roles. I've heard specialists and pfc's say they will outright ignore sergeant commands and say they only answer to staff sergeants, which would literally put soldiers lives in jeopardy during wartime. Don't get me started on PT failures, and the obesity epidemic happening throughout the military.
And how many of those 14 military people were given the option of chosing "early retirement" instead of being fired or suspended??? Because remember, the military protects their own....
@Douglas Jones - LOL, when you start stating such things maybe we could have a conversation. But right now I'm just looking at a radical hate monger. You are the disease that afflicts America.
We've come a long way. We've got a ways to go, but this nation addresses its vices and sins slowly. Boys are raised much better than we were when i was growing up. Looking back, I can now see loads of subtle (and not so subtle) ways that toxic masculinity reigned for my gen. I dislocated my shoulder stopping some douchebag from violating my friend when she was asleep. I was 15. That's proof that i'm on right side.... right? Well, there's lots more I could've/should've done in HS and college. My 4-yr old daughter will hopefully have a safer time in college than her mom and aunts did. I hope to see a day when women are treated equally - TRULY equal - for first time.... ever. Fact remains that Children are taken advantage of worldwide. Especially little girls. SLAVERY is a pretty big problem.
With all your respect women in the military get treated alot better been in 10 years. And I have never yelled at a female as I have with guys you may ask why equal opportunity you know why cuss they get feeling hurt and complain about it get it new army new generation. In alot of instances they didn't meet pt physical training standard and they let them get away as guy you fail one take another fail get kicked out I do think the system is fucked up. I have female in my job that won't be able to lift me up if something was to happen or take me out of the tank so now I'm screwed. Point is there should be no lower standard for them since they want equal opportunity if they can do the job go ahead but if you can't you going to get someone killed and politicians don't understand that
@@burtan2000 a lot more needs to be done for children & women. We are weaker naturally & I'm tired of men taking advantage of that instead of protecting us. My daughter is 4 too & I don't want our daughters to go thru some of the experiences I & a lot of women have to go thru because we are seen as lesser than. Men need to speak up when other men are being disparaging to any girl so that type of environment is not encouraged between males because I think that's part of the issue.
This story is completely tragic... but did I just hear that she told her mom a month prior about being sexually harassed? Why was nobody from SHARP notified....
@@dinoquijote If she had, chances are life would have been worse. The Army SHARP program is a joke half the time. You have crappy leadership who are supposed to protect the victim in cases like this but they don’t. You can report it and in 2.5 seconds the whole battalion will know what’s going on and they shouldn’t. Next thing you know the victim is on the chopping block instead of the perp. It’s sad but true most of the time.
@@dinoquijote Do you even know how the process works??? You know how many people committed suicide because they were outcasted after reporting?!?? How about you stfu! I’ve lost battles trying to stick up to the disgusting animals that abuse their rank and authority.
@@dinoquijote And no one said anything about the real leaders. We’re strictly talking about the bad ones which tends to outnumber the good ones. So mind yours. Ask your good NCO/officer friends, they’ll tell you that sometimes the good ones just don’t win no matter how right they are because at the end of the day someone with the final say so outranks them. Politics in the military is still politics and half the time its fucking corrupt.
@@dinoquijote I literally said “half the time” and “most of the time” , not all the time. But as you know it destroys the culture and the trust in not only the Army but most importantly the CoC. Which also contributes to why people don’t report...I’ve know more than one case, three in A.I.T and one during a deployment. Seeing how it destroy’s a persons mental and soul is crushing. People like that deserve more than just a forced retirement or a transfer with a one rank demotion.
@@raerae6422 if they weren’t directly involved in a criminal case and found guilty there is no reason to demote or reduce their pay. Like the video said them being relieved is career ending. They will not progress and some won’t even be able to retire. If you’re the boss and one of your workers murder someone you don’t go to jail.
@@BrettReynolds55 But if you are the boss and you cover up the fact that one of your workers murdered someone you are an accomplice. Plus watchulla is talking about those who were suspended not those who were relieved. The ones that will suspended will come back after "this blows over".
@@BrettReynolds55 if there's a potential that they are being suspended, that means they were involved in a crime. The level of involvement may vary, but if your employees do a crime and you are somehow involved in it, you do face consequences accordingly
@@emilio2647 CID (the Criminal Investigation Division) is the appropriate division. They spoke at one of the initial press conferences and tried to rationalize that sexual harassment is not a crime, hence, they had nothing to investigate. I’m very curious if that Fort Hood representative was disciplined in any way. That was such an outrageous stance after what had happened.
@@JasonPhillip303, seriously 😳? Attitudes like yours is what keeps sexual harassment going. That’s a predators comment. We women will not surrender. Especially Latinas! You better get right.
@@feelsweirdman_1823 No first degree murder is not appropriate for those that did not actually do the murder. However, sometimes there are lesser charges such as manslaughter and negligent homicide. What would that look like? Perhaps an awareness by those in charge that sexual harrassment, rape and other forms of violence were widespread and unchecked, and not doing anything about it, or perhaps even covering it up, or even engaging in some types of harrassment personally (anyone remember Navy TailGate scandal?). Ignoring, burying, or participating in these types of behavior especially when a pattern of behavior can be shown, is grounds for prosecution. Depending on the facts, a case might even be made for accessory to murder or conspiracy. Certainly it should be investigated. And maybe not by the military internal investigators, but some sort of independent investigation, perhaps the Texas Rangers should be called in, since we can't really count on the military or the FBI to do a real investigation.
I remember hearing about Vanessa's story when she was reported missing.They said her car never moved from the base, I started worrying to myself where could she be
Man thank god they got rid of 14 people now they should put them on trial :/ Start cleaning out the swamp of bad people in Fort Hood :/ They should also check on every commander and chief and every single person there in fort hood.
Conner G, I am responding to this because I see lots of people going against the Army because of these bad people. There is no reason to target innocent people because they wear the same uniform. Just like how not all cops are bad cops
@@MrAcuta73 A dishonorable would be for someone actually doing the dirty deed. General under honorable conditions, but I'd bet even the Co. Cdr got a honorable. No ones gonna check after the court martials.
@@u.s.paratroops4633 that is not how it works at all. Relieved of duty doesn’t mean they get kicked out of the Army, it means that they no linger hold the position they were relieved of. There is no way you are/were in the Army. Stop being a barracks lawyer.
I feel for the mother and Family having to deal with this tragedy I lost a child in 1996 so I understand what she is going through and I wish her and her Family well
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Cover -up? As soon as she was found dead they investigated and were about to arrest Spec.Robinson for her murder.He then killed himself and Robinson's girl friend is also being charged. So what "cover-up" you talking about....
Relieved of duty aka forced to retire. Just like everyone else is. How about you investigate everyone that dropped their retirement packets during this time? Just saying
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@@FlatRangeOperator doesn't sound like you've been in the Army before. Blanket punishment is pretty typical, but I'm not even saying that. I said up to the company. You're going to tell me that the 1SG knew nothing? BULLSHIT. What about her direct SGT? She just goes missing and nothing? So in morning formation he just stands there with a missing spot where she should be. Com'on.
July 1, 2020, Killeen police located Specialist Robinson, he killed himself before he could be taken into custody. Cecily Anne Aguilar an alleged girlfriend of Specialist Robinson was arrested and charged with one count of conspiracy to tamper with evidence.
You really that’s slow ? He probably lied and told her he was gunna be sergeant or was sargeant and used that against her and threatened her with that title of sergeant
When they say relived of duty does anyone know if for fact that included dishonorable discharge for that whole unit in specific? Just relieved doesnt feel like enough
Removed from duty means that the people in charge are removed from their position and given a much lower position somewhere else. A dishonrable discharge for the whole unit? Is that even a question?
@@kevinphung8748 yes they all corroborated in a murder on some type of level. Nigga if I witnessed a murder in a military base then I’m going straight to the court house because these people will cover each other’s trails like the mongrels they are.
This happens more often than one hears about. People forget that men will be men. You must know that every man isn't going to comply unless he has been taught to respect women as a God gifts to mankind. Like his sister. My father taught me as a small child that men or half man and half dog. I haven't strayed from that and I still think about what he said to me. So, if you are a woman reading this, please keep this in mind. I pray for her family and asking God to calm their souls. I commend them for sticking together and demanding answers.
Men will be men is not a helpful phrase. Yes, men need to use common sense to figure out empathy. The Y chromosome is a virus that loves rape and destruction. Of course, men are allowed to say this to their daughter is going out on a date, but if a woman says it? Oh dear God all hell breaks loose. LOL.
Nice to hear that they're taking "action", but I bet the roaches who did this are still at the base. Also, I know there are still soldiers who are scared to speak out. 😔
MEN NEED TO WAKE UP....AND GROW UP! WOMEN NEED TO WAKE UP AND SPEAK UP! GOD MADE BOTH. RESPECT OTHERS AND LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOUR SELF. BASICS OF LIFE.
WOMEN HAVE BEEN SPEAKING UP BUT THESE ASSULTS HAVE BEEN COVERED UP..IT'S ONLY NOW AFTER THE MURDER OF THIS YOUNG SOLDIER THAT THEY CAN "NO LONGER " COVER THESE BEHAVIORS FROM HAPPENING.
@@falcon127 I mean yeah. But nothing like fort hood. It’s not just a military problem either. Happens in what would be a normal workplace environment too. That’s just the world we live in now.
i cant remember the ladies name but there was a young black woman fighting for her country not to many years ago in iraq or afgan and she was raped by her own squad she had her private parts burned with acid then she was killed this is disgraceful
One more thing, its extremely stupid to try to blame or hang responsibility of this on the commander of the base or any one else besides the killer. Women and men need to be separated at work.
@@raiden5874 Actually, quite a bit. All movement stops, all training stops, the base goes under full investigation and essentially turned on it's ass. There is so much fucking crime in Fort Hood. That post needs to be shaken from top to bottom. If enough is uncovered, the base can be ordered to lock down, but, things like that are an act of God, but Fort Hood needs that.
Said but its one person how many people dead in the woods in your town? Anseer millions and millions across the country.There are rapist murderers in all walks of life.Not really a military problem no more than walmart,town hall,mcdonalds Wake up.
Those 14 need to be given dishonorable discharges, pensions taken away, and given 10 years at ft leavenworth........ This relieved of duty means nothing
Jailed for what crime exactly? Did the base Major put his hands around her neck? Did he chop her body up and bury her? Help me out here.. If you hear your neighbors having a yelling argument but ignore it and in the morning you find out the husband killed his wife, do you go to jail too? I mean you heard it right? Why didn't you stop it? See how stupid you sound? The base CO never touched her, he probably never even met her, his fault is not fostering a safe environment where reports from his subordinates are taken seriously, so he is fired and will be forcecibly retired as the Army tries to change the culture for the better. How are they going to charge him for a crime he didn't commit?
why would they get jailed? the fort hood command did not participate in murder or anything illegal, they simply failed to address problems and take action. that’s why they were relieved of duty.
@@adfmo2195 the fort hood command did not participate in sexual assault or murder. they simply failed to do their job to take care of their soldiers, and so they were relieved of duty. it has nothing to do with the “special treatment” you are referring to.
Here comes the typical sheeps who will justify and say this is a case of a "bad apple" when such cases have been common but gets thrown under the table
No one justifies this with a bad apple argument. Bad apple arguments are just meant to point out that the group can't be painted by the actions of an individual
@@power50001562 i'm saying that calling someone a bad apple doesn't justify their presence in some group.. it justifies tossing them out into the dumpster.
@@legalfictionnaturalfact3969 yes but the OP was implying that the bunch is already spoiled and anyone using that argument is letting abusers go free. That's just BS
So tired of corruption and liars everywhere we look.
This is why riots happen.
@@jaimealvarado4421 man please we can do better ❗️
@@redlight3657 people in power literally do not care about what the people want. Riots are the only things people in power respond to.
@@sage1355 it’s more of us than them , why u think they have the service it’s to protect them against us 💯
Me too, Jason 😥 But im not going to let it get me down tho cause that's what Satan wants. We already living it may as well face it like warriors with heart and no fear. Im not perfect but I choose Lord Jesus over everything. My Savior, My King 👑 My Beloved🤗💕💖
Don’t just stop at Fort Hood, look at other bases also.
Yes Amen!!
It’s everywhere!!! Look at police force!!! All these uniform body been abusing their power n privilege given to them!!!! How can this happen?? In 2020? Can u imagine couple decades ago? Ok
@@mpalmer7800 we do have some cops who get in trouble, it's easier for us to put in complaints. With the military it's a different breed where even locals cops don't get access to investigate. Military even has there own in house court system.
@@FaithandNova True they are the law it seems!!!
@@FaithandNova It’s upsetting that there are no checks and balance system when it comes to the people enforcing our laws and protecting us.
I served in Alaska. When this story started coming out I knew these military pigs were GUILTY.
Thanks for speaking up.
Same here , FT wainwright is toxic too
If Vanessa's family had not pursued, this would just b another unknown case
#ICantBreath2.0
True her family never let her down..
Yes
I said the same thing!
And then Gregory Morales’ body would’ve never been found! The base said he ran away but that was a lie!
Fired and suspended just means moved to another base. Should have been demoted and dishonorably discharged, then charged
Exactly, they just pretend to be taking action.
@@amariluna just like what they do with police officers.
He makes my skin crawl just listening to him just talk like parrot but we all know never really did actions.
lets look for them are selves bro
You 💯 percent right I'm so agreed
It's not enough, getting these people fired, they need to be prosecuted.
Irk?! Wtf are they talking about??? 👀😡
The problem with that is in order to be "prosecuted", there must be criminal culpability. That is an element which is almost impossible to prove unless they were directly involved in her murder or their negligence was intentional and so callous that any reasonable person would know that such negligence would likely put this soldier in grave danger of physical harm. Good luck proving any of that in a court of law.
@@samie7025 1¹¹¹1
And what would you have had them do. Women in the military these days throw around sexual abuse allegations, like it were candy. They have created this atmosphere of non-belief.
@@Hibbie2963 Ain't that a bi.ch. Blaming the victim as usual. You are very much part of the problem.
So sad. She signed up to serve our country and her life was taken. Someone being fired isn’t enough.
She killed herself 🧐
And chopped up her own body afterwards? Are you high?
@@k-stackz3577 drugs are bad for you 😂 remember hands up
@@k-stackz3577 You are dumb and don't follow up on things, she was sexually abused and murdered also high rank officials were doing as much as possible to ignore and cover-up the issue.
@@k-stackz3577 You Must be sick in the head,Acquire help as fast possible.
Props to her family for not stopping👏
Yes 🙌
@Fred Farkle Being paid for what?
The base WAS NOT ready for their power and forcefulness!!
That is why fook the States, don't choose your duty station in the STATES, go overseas.
Army when someone dies: 👀
Army when someone has hands in their pockets: 😡
Or when you walk on the CSM’s grass...😒
WOW🤤😲😭😢 I AM SO SORRY CONDOLENCES TO HER WHOLE FAMILY😢 THIS SHOULD OF NEVER HAPPENED😡
On god bruh
😂
Facts
So proud of Vanessa's family and so proud of ABC News for putting the face of the leadership on the thumbnail
Always Been Communist News has done nothing to be proud of. Enemy of the American People.
@@tellitlikeitis1828 the red scare did a number on you, huh. 😢😢
@@joeyboyy6381 I am not commenting on the unfortunate death of the woman...The Mainstream news is the enemy of the American people...and not one word isa rhetorical. Literal. ABC included. So nobody did a "number on me", lol.
Hello there, how is the weather conditions over there?
Im a soldier and personally thought army acted so slow on the investigation
You are too lenient, it was clear and plain negligence. Slow? Haha, if the family had not kept pressure, everything had been swept under the rug.
@@Teporame family definitely did the right thing
@@Teporame Soldiers are well aware of issues within our ranks and I don't know a single one that excused anything about the way they handled this at Fort Hood. Fort Hood has been known to be corrupt before this. Sex trafficking rings, drugs, etc. There was constant talk about her case all over bases when it happened and people were outraged. Sadly, social media was a big reason why this case was solved. Attention on cases like this highlight corrupt leadership in the Army and bring about negative feelings from the public. What's fucked up is that this case went without serious investigation for so long because Fort Hood didn't care until it gained attention across social media.
@@op-il4zj agree
@@Teporame truth. Army leaders do t want to lose careers. That's 100% always why these things are kept quiet. They don't rrally care about sexual harassment, and assault, they care about their careers. That's it. Nothing else.
My dad was a recruiter twice, once in the 70s and again in the early 80s. He told me he would never allow me to join the army or marines because they didn't protect their women or treat them well enough. He said at the time he thought maybe the navy and air force did a bit better. I never forgot that and here's a prime example.
My dad always told me the same and all I wanted as a kid was to be in the military. I appreciate his words
so why did it continue? Because people like your father said nothing and tuurned a blind eye
Bottom line; army would be nothing without their recruits. Between Govts, politicians, an entire Govt body that has too many chiefs and not enough Indians, conglomerate businesses, and our "so called" country leaders are full of S----. None of them are accountable.
@@aitchaitch3752 so why did it continue? Because people like you said nothing and turned a blind eye
1 down, 70 more 'suicides' to investigate!
@Mark Owusu exactly these are MURDERS not some random type of disappearance, this is my problem with people in the ranks, and who are superior to others because they can unrightfully treat you like a second class citizen because you made a couple of mistakes.
@Toya Johnson people are getting murdered by their fellow soldiers and superiors in a military base... also sex trafficking ring can’t forget that.
Suicides. Quit with the bullshit conspiracy theories
@@generalaviation5305 Definitely suicides, anyone who has been stationed at Fort Hood can tell you about being suicidal.
@Toya Johnson Why is there a "t" at the end of period?
I don’t speak her mothers language but I completely understand she’s in a world of pain. God bless her
True my friend I lost my son 3 yrs ago. Is a pain that will never go away Nd the way Vanessa died it’s so not fair.😞
Hello there, how is the weather conditions over there?
@@grammyandus6743 Hello there, how is the weather conditions over there?
@@michaelanderson1900 Hi tunis Anderson.. weather here in Fl is cold always like for Xmas time. Happy Holidays.
@@grammyandus6743 You can add me with my email address tunisanderson09@gmail.com
I had a friend that was murdered in the Coast Guard it was covered up and his parents were paid off to keep quite. He was a great young man and I'm proud to say I was his friend. R.I.P. Tommy Crandon.
Wow
The base is named after a confederate traitor it's foundation is based of racism and evil
The last thing that's upsetting she was 20 years old!!!!!!!...
Lmao how's that the worst thing
I find it racist how its a Hispanic man covering this story.
Why? Just because its a Hispanic family???
@@babyalo989 i think they chose the hispanic guy so he could understand the family without paying a translator.
@@babyalo989 Dumbest comment in the entire thread. Hands down.
He should be in prison and those women need answers and need to sue... This investigation shouldn't take long. Pray they get this RIGHT
The Feres Doctrine makes it illegal to sue the military. It allows so many coverups and abuse by leadership. I'm stationed at Ft Hood and while I haven't personally experienced sexual assault, it would surprise me if it isn't even more widespread than this report indicated. Leadership treats enlisted soldiers like slaves there.
I agree!
Do like the old days but I cant post on here
He shot himself when authorities came looking for him. He was a coward and died like one. The process the Army has in place to report these issues isn't working. Its like its a check in the box to say they have a system in place
The investigation should take a fair amount of time, to find evidence of guilt and innocence. I agree the killer should be in prison, and anyone who hid it.
Then you will hire ex military to be cops. And it just continues.
Most problem cops weren't ex military
Yup ... UGHH it never ends !
#Facts
State sanctioned violence
Yep
They should not only be fired but arrested also🗣🗣
@David Wang Much like cops.
did you notice their judges were males....that's why they only got fired
If the UCMJ comes down on them. They will want to be in a civilian court instead.
Aiding and abetting murder. Court martial
@John Bailey Executed? This ain't Russia bro....
Young woman just trying to start out in life. The Army owes this family millions. This is the reason I won't let my daughters enlist.
Not to mention everyone that died shortly after she was discovered murdered
But we are only told of the beautiful young lady who disappeared ... odd that..
@@Patchaddictedpolymath ummm just sayin a bunch of bodies where turning up
@@ChutneyInc. like the soldier Robinson, same rank as Guillen and “ killed himself “
@@elliottcharles4445 ihope they are still investigating
@@elliottcharles4445 yeah, because people rarely rage quit life and take people with them, so far fetched 🙄
The military should have protected her from the day she filed a report...but they failed too..R.I.P Vanessa...sorry to the Vanessa family...
Dude this country is fucked up they gave too many green cards. A country with too many races will never succeed
@@V8V88 a secular and diverse nation will always cherish and develop with his people.... unity in diversity.!!!
V 8 what does Green cards and abuse have to do with each other? The United States was inhabited by Red Indians. They were aniailated by causiasian settlers. Green card holders are vetted and most of the time fulfill a need that the country needs. So before you comment and show your ignorance visit the Homeland Security website and the Census site. Learn about the US government policies and do further reading from the institutions that formulated these policies and laws; why.
👍👌spot on
V8 Engine shut up dumb bitch
How she was missing for so long before any one started investigating is beyond me. Same with the young man they found buried On The Base.
I think and i may be mistaken so still research but i think they declared an investigation maybe a week after major news coverage and then everything got drowned out by the rest of the 2020 bag of bricks
clearly the officers are part of the corruption and covering up crimes
If they go a wall they still have to be found. Its so sad
Every person you see addicted to Opiates has been victimized by someone and many by a Doctor.
FBI agents investigating the drug dealing doctors understand victims
And look this beautiful family
In anguish, desperately needing answers.
It is sad to watch anywhere people are being hurt, ignored dismissed.
Overwhelmed with sadness for the loss of their loved one,
It is a problem I hope Joe Biden does not dismiss and
Hopefully Biden will continue the push for Justice,
women do not have to die just because some man finds them attractive, or destroy her life for not kissing his..
@ Megan Perkins,
Some People in the military go AWOL(absent without leave) for what ever reason.
The military doesn't go looking for them, they just put out a warrant for their arrest.So if any L.E. stop them they get arrested and returned to the military.
That's probably why these people weren't found out about until this young Army
woman's body was discovered.
If they neglected their duties in the states, imagine what they do overseas...
I don't get it. They were "suspended," their "career was ended" -- but she's DEAD! Why are there no murder charges?
cause the killer killed himself
Because she was Latina
@MegaJf16 no they fired the other leadership becauss that wasn't the first reported cas of sexual assault on that base, Fort Hood is well known for having the worst leadership
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tf are you talking about?? you gonna charge like 30 ppl with murder half of which never even met the girl??
You can't file murder charges against a dead man, and you can't file murder charges against people that did not murder her.
Their motto must be
“See something.. Say something... and go missing”
Smh such a shame
No fake news this time. Let's keep this going. Most respect to her and her family!
This was far overdue, and there needs to be more done from top to bottom.
Nope. We all know set ups are for taking food tops to bottoms and keeping rewards as in method changes. So it's one thing knowing guilds..if we are sure it's that top. Before him what took place? I was there 1983...the streets were filled at close town. They cleaned up after some insight to some visitors around March...1984. There was a topic for then and before about how to stop the abuse of women. They had no money...back to the drawing board. What has changed since..those seeing borders as the enemies friend..then the deaths were found more So. We want independent investigating and reasoning it's about knowledge. Who applied what to the statistics? It's been enact I think
At the very top there is Trump...grabbing pu**y!
This country has become 3rd world. The corruption is infectious and worse than the plague!
But supposedly ppl go awol all the time off the base so how could the leaders know she was murdered?
@@ssherrierable You can Google this statistic: How many american soldiers die each year.
On average, this amounts to approximately 913 non-war- related deaths each year (excluding 2020). Personnel perished in more than 70 countries (and at sea), with the majority (93%) of deaths occurring in the United States.Jul 1, 2020
@@AnnaMorris411....Anna, you have learn nothing.
My husband and I were in Fort Hood recently. It is sickening how true all of this is! There is so much corruption and sexual harassment in the Military. Especially Fort Hood.
Shut fort hood down
Named for a Confederate general.
Renamed Fort Cavazos, in honor of the Army's first Latino four-star general
@@veramae4098 You cant erase history. You can change the name numerous times but the history will never change.
I was stationed there from 2000-2003. It hasnt changed then It hasnt changed when I retired in 2014 and now in 2023 nothing has changed. you replace one toxic command team and now enters a new toxic command team. nothing will change unless you embedd an operative to do some time in the unit and observe.
This is exactly why I didn’t decide to move forward into the military...
Sure
My sister wanted to join, I showed her what happened to this poor soul
This is one of the reasons I stopped pursuing also. When I started the process, this happened.
@@wtfftw3000 make sure you tell her to not become a doctor or a nurse because there are evil ones out there too.
@@zobekguerrero1366 in the military? Or in general? I didn't know that, thanks for the info.
Leaders conspiring with soldiers to allow soldier on soldier crime.
+2
As unamerican as it gets. Thought trump had that title
@@JB-vw7os when the Government is big enough to give you what you Want it is big enough to Take Everything you Have
They Committed war crimes, fighting corporation wars is not fighting for freedom like the U.S Government wants you to believe.
@@theshield1613 my point exactly the government misappropriats their resources and what people have real freedom
It would be better if someone was actually charged with her murder not just fired.... Guillen would have known the difference between a specialist and a sergeant.
There was an arrest in the case. The one who killed Vanessa committed suicide as he was being arrested. The woman who helped him is in jail pending trial..
that IS watt light bulb the Virus is for.. no army assH or rapist has been put to death as was the law during Nam and WW2.../
it will be easier to use the Virus, er Hoax, so that there are NO charges.. no one will go to jail if and when any of the Bloodlines of the military types.. no flagged ass is safe from being Purged...
so stay inside and if u know someone that is infected.. U might bet that that person might well take out as many military traitors as they can meet.. no charges will be laid by any cop..
God Bless and be safe.. // note that 99% of the recruits would not use deadly force to protect their body from a traitor
The guy killed himself when he was questioned about the girls where about he knew they were on to him. And killed himself his girlfriend was arrested who help him carry, burn, and burry that girl
Nowadays many specialists think they're sergeants, and many sergeants act like specialists. The military really needs restore respect and accountability of the leadership roles. I've heard specialists and pfc's say they will outright ignore sergeant commands and say they only answer to staff sergeants, which would literally put soldiers lives in jeopardy during wartime. Don't get me started on PT failures, and the obesity epidemic happening throughout the military.
Yes! Say it again for these idiots that clearly can’t comprehend the difference. How dumb can people be! My oh my.
And how many of those 14 military people were given the option of chosing "early retirement" instead of being fired or suspended??? Because remember, the military protects their own....
What is early retirement? That’s not a thing. But yeah they should definitely be punished
Being fired is not enough, I wouldn’t of been fired. I would be locked up for life, just with involvement
Habeas corpus. Sorry, you have to follow the law.
@@colin1818 never knew criminals followed the law
@@awildpigeon7703 - Just figure it's worth calling out would-be fascists when they're advocating nonsense
@Douglas Jones - People like you are what is wrong with this country. 100%
@Douglas Jones - LOL, when you start stating such things maybe we could have a conversation. But right now I'm just looking at a radical hate monger. You are the disease that afflicts America.
Yeah sure enough talk. Protect women better in every aspects of life.
Not just woman but also kids there's alot of weird people in the world
We've come a long way. We've got a ways to go, but this nation addresses its vices and sins slowly.
Boys are raised much better than we were when i was growing up. Looking back, I can now see loads of subtle (and not so subtle) ways that toxic masculinity reigned for my gen.
I dislocated my shoulder stopping some douchebag from violating my friend when she was asleep. I was 15. That's proof that i'm on right side.... right? Well, there's lots more I could've/should've done in HS and college.
My 4-yr old daughter will hopefully have a safer time in college than her mom and aunts did. I hope to see a day when women are treated equally - TRULY equal - for first time.... ever.
Fact remains that Children are taken advantage of worldwide. Especially little girls. SLAVERY is a pretty big problem.
With all your respect women in the military get treated alot better been in 10 years. And I have never yelled at a female as I have with guys you may ask why equal opportunity you know why cuss they get feeling hurt and complain about it get it new army new generation. In alot of instances they didn't meet pt physical training standard and they let them get away as guy you fail one take another fail get kicked out I do think the system is fucked up. I have female in my job that won't be able to lift me up if something was to happen or take me out of the tank so now I'm screwed. Point is there should be no lower standard for them since they want equal opportunity if they can do the job go ahead but if you can't you going to get someone killed and politicians don't understand that
@@alexsmith1207 yes protect all babies & kids. This world is scary crazy.
@@burtan2000 a lot more needs to be done for children & women. We are weaker naturally & I'm tired of men taking advantage of that instead of protecting us. My daughter is 4 too & I don't want our daughters to go thru some of the experiences I & a lot of women have to go thru because we are seen as lesser than. Men need to speak up when other men are being disparaging to any girl so that type of environment is not encouraged between males because I think that's part of the issue.
This story is completely tragic... but did I just hear that she told her mom a month prior about being sexually harassed? Why was nobody from SHARP notified....
@@dinoquijote If she had, chances are life would have been worse. The Army SHARP program is a joke half the time. You have crappy leadership who are supposed to protect the victim in cases like this but they don’t. You can report it and in 2.5 seconds the whole battalion will know what’s going on and they shouldn’t. Next thing you know the victim is on the chopping block instead of the perp. It’s sad but true most of the time.
@@dinoquijote Do you even know how the process works??? You know how many people committed suicide because they were outcasted after reporting?!?? How about you stfu! I’ve lost battles trying to stick up to the disgusting animals that abuse their rank and authority.
@@dinoquijote And no one said anything about the real leaders. We’re strictly talking about the bad ones which tends to outnumber the good ones. So mind yours. Ask your good NCO/officer friends, they’ll tell you that sometimes the good ones just don’t win no matter how right they are because at the end of the day someone with the final say so outranks them. Politics in the military is still politics and half the time its fucking corrupt.
@@dinoquijote I literally said “half the time” and “most of the time” , not all the time. But as you know it destroys the culture and the trust in not only the Army but most importantly the CoC. Which also contributes to why people don’t report...I’ve know more than one case, three in A.I.T and one during a deployment. Seeing how it destroy’s a persons mental and soul is crushing. People like that deserve more than just a forced retirement or a transfer with a one rank demotion.
8 more months of more abuse and trauma that shouldn't have happened...why did it take so long?. . . sad.
because you need evidence
You need proof or the court case will fall flat and nothing will get changed.
Suspended means, lay low until this blows over.
Yep and then they’ll be transferred to a different base, same rank, same pay.
@@raerae6422 if they weren’t directly involved in a criminal case and found guilty there is no reason to demote or reduce their pay. Like the video said them being relieved is career ending. They will not progress and some won’t even be able to retire.
If you’re the boss and one of your workers murder someone you don’t go to jail.
@@BrettReynolds55 But if you are the boss and you cover up the fact that one of your workers murdered someone you are an accomplice. Plus watchulla is talking about those who were suspended not those who were relieved. The ones that will suspended will come back after "this blows over".
@@BrettReynolds55 if there's a potential that they are being suspended, that means they were involved in a crime. The level of involvement may vary, but if your employees do a crime and you are somehow involved in it, you do face consequences accordingly
Yes..and probably chilling at home while STILL getting paid. 😠
That could be anyone’s sister or mother or daughter. I send out prayers to this family.
Or how about "that could be anyone" or "that was somebody".
“The investigation is still ongoing...” Has CID figured out yet, that sexual harassment is a crime?
Raul Thomas I thought the military police is responsible for investigating crimes commiting against or by their officers.
@@emilio2647 CID (the Criminal Investigation Division) is the appropriate division. They spoke at one of the initial press conferences and tried to rationalize that sexual harassment is not a crime, hence, they had nothing to investigate. I’m very curious if that Fort Hood representative was disciplined in any way. That was such an outrageous stance after what had happened.
And worst yet....followed with murder.
NOPE ITS A COVER UP!
Actually it is NOT a crime.
I left Killeen/Ft, Hood as soon as I got out of high school. The base is a misogynistic pit. Women are not safe there.
I don't doubt it! Hell I only worked for the USPS and it was corrupt enough! Everything the government touches turns to 💩
it's a male space 🤷♂️
@@JasonPhillip303, seriously 😳? Attitudes like yours is what keeps sexual harassment going. That’s a predators comment. We women will not surrender. Especially Latinas! You better get right.
@@juls7582 I dont think you should surrender
And apparently...men either. It's just ALL wrong.
Her poor parents and her sisters :( this really broke my heart. Rest in peace Vanessa, you are an angel. God bless her family.
Her little sister fight for her so bad you can hear it on her voice 🥺
uuhhh.... career-ending punishments for life-ending crimes? No thanks. Someone needs to face the death row for these crimes.
@George Blabbermouth you’re delusional
@Kira the guy who killed her is dead
you cant file murder charges on people who did not murder much less put them on death row
@@feelsweirdman_1823 you can’t explain this stuff to simple minded fools....
@@feelsweirdman_1823 No first degree murder is not appropriate for those that did not actually do the murder. However, sometimes there are lesser charges such as manslaughter and negligent homicide. What would that look like? Perhaps an awareness by those in charge that sexual harrassment, rape and other forms of violence were widespread and unchecked, and not doing anything about it, or perhaps even covering it up, or even engaging in some types of harrassment personally (anyone remember Navy TailGate scandal?). Ignoring, burying, or participating in these types of behavior especially when a pattern of behavior can be shown, is grounds for prosecution. Depending on the facts, a case might even be made for accessory to murder or conspiracy. Certainly it should be investigated. And maybe not by the military internal investigators, but some sort of independent investigation, perhaps the Texas Rangers should be called in, since we can't really count on the military or the FBI to do a real investigation.
I remember hearing about Vanessa's story when she was reported missing.They said her car never moved from the base, I started worrying to myself where could she be
Man thank god they got rid of 14 people now they should put them on trial :/ Start cleaning out the swamp of bad people in Fort Hood :/ They should also check on every commander and chief and every single person there in fort hood.
Just remember that a few bad people doesn’t mean everyone is bad in the military
@@-extreme_gaming-8707 still there prob good amount of bad ppl there every dude there is hush hush i can say that
@@jake78441 it’s called “fort hood” I think they took the term “hood” too... literally ya know?
under rated comment
Conner G, I am responding to this because I see lots of people going against the Army because of these bad people. There is no reason to target innocent people because they wear the same uniform. Just like how not all cops are bad cops
If this injustice is happening in a country like America, just imagine the egregious acts in other less fortunate countries.
Especially in countries that are authoritarian.
This is absolutely ridiculous
I was thinking the same...oh God!!!!
Leave us out of your nonsense!
@@praisendlovu what nonsense lol
My heart for the loss of this child. Praying for this family.
Hello dear, how is the weather conditions over there?
@@michaelanderson1900 off yourself
"Relieved of duty" means they all probably got a Honorable Discharge w/ a separation bonus (1 yrs pay)
Hopefully a general discharge at least...but betting you are right. At least a general or dishonorable would be a life-long punishment.
Spoken like a private with poo for brains! That isn’t how it works.
@@MrAcuta73 A dishonorable would be for someone actually doing the dirty deed. General under honorable conditions, but I'd bet even the Co. Cdr got a honorable. No ones gonna check after the court martials.
@@williammills8606 BS....that's exactly how it works....I've seen it
@@u.s.paratroops4633 that is not how it works at all. Relieved of duty doesn’t mean they get kicked out of the Army, it means that they no linger hold the position they were relieved of. There is no way you are/were in the Army. Stop being a barracks lawyer.
Vanessa looks like her Mother 😞
Ms, is that rare. I look like my father. Who do you look like.....your next door neighbor?
Lmao
abuse has been happening in army since its was invented give me a break.
THE NURICAN DREAM is all smoke.
@@babykevinxoxo So your solution is to do nothing, ignore it????
I feel for the mother and Family having to deal with this tragedy I lost a child in 1996 so I understand what she is going through and I wish her and her Family well
Is there a part 2?
Covering up her death for as long as possible like that just screams cover up, I feel so bad for the family.
Congressman Eric Swalwell selling America for some Little Chines P**y and we Know.th-cam.com/video/Rhx7DZwC6Ek/w-d-xo.html X22 report today Ep 2348b - Countermeasures Initiated, The Constitution Will Destroy The [DS] WWG1WGA
@@chriscolon070 nigga wut
Most of this clip is from the DATELINE special on Vanessa Guillen
Cover -up? As soon as she was found dead they investigated and were about to arrest Spec.Robinson for her murder.He then killed himself and Robinson's girl friend is also being charged.
So what "cover-up" you talking about....
@@marvinflatt6947 did you just go straight to the comments? :')
What ever happened to that saying when a woman says no then the man backs off out of respect to the woman?
I am an officer and they won’t back down. Absolutely disgusting.
@JUNGLE BUNNY you have the wrong type of thinking.
Unfortunately some men just don't understand a no.
that was never a thing
@JUNGLE BUNNY victim blaming much?
The “report and talk about sexual assault system” is as ineffective and counterintuitive as the “report bullying” system in highschool
Those responsible should be forced out and lose their pensions.
I agree. Dishonorable discharge.
They'll all be transferred without a doubt, to different bases
Fantastic news. Now finally this horror that has been happening at Fort Hood may be brought out in the open. Love and prayers to her family 😇😇😇
Relieved of duty aka forced to retire. Just like everyone else is. How about you investigate everyone that dropped their retirement packets during this time? Just saying
So when are the murder charge's coming? It's sad when you have privges and get away with murder...
pigs protect pigs.
They are Trained Killers
Her killer committed suicide and his gf got 20 years for hiding her remains
The murder committed suicide, his GF is facing life. What more do you want?
@@JeanLucCaptain spoken like a true beta simp
That Army soldier should be investigated fully and if found guilty, prosecuted and sentenced to the maximum the law allows.
The culprit escaped by committing suicide, lol.
Helen Smith, No One Believes that bullshit story. Nice try. And we can tell you're dude posing as a woman. LOL.
The Military should have a anonymous reporting channel for any kind of harassment. And the report should be taken an immediate action.
Thanks to her family, the secretary of the army and all the investigators, Vanessa is going to make the army better and stronger.
Congressman Eric Swalwell selling America for some Little Chines P**y and we Know.th-cam.com/video/Rhx7DZwC6Ek/w-d-xo.html X22 report today Ep 2348b - Countermeasures Initiated, The Constitution Will Destroy The [DS] WWG1WGA
Nothing happened. She was murdered he got fired.
Another woman "sui*ide"
This is horrible, but I'm not surprised during my time in the Army Ft. Hood was the place no one wanted to be stationed
The culture on that post is dark and has been known for decades.
Im a soldier and personally thought army acted so slow on the investigation
@@lmklmk1512 you a bot? Another poster with different SN said same exact sentence. You tube bots are real.
Glad they fired those who refused to take sexual harassment seriously! RIP Vanessa❣️
Here family was amazing I know she is proud, they never gave up on finding out what happened to her
*Her
They should put them to jail not only relieved them there’s many abuses in militaries
I already said previously that Vanessa's death was symptomatic of leadership failures at all levels.
All her NCOs at the company-level and below should be prosecuted under UCMJ.
They all should be lowered to the rank of 2nd lt
Remember, battalion and brigade commander, CSM know whats going on with there units. They need to be prosecuted under the UCMJ.
@@FlatRangeOperator doesn't sound like you've been in the Army before. Blanket punishment is pretty typical, but I'm not even saying that. I said up to the company. You're going to tell me that the 1SG knew nothing? BULLSHIT. What about her direct SGT? She just goes missing and nothing? So in morning formation he just stands there with a missing spot where she should be. Com'on.
Demote them all to 2LT?😂Even the sergeants😂
@@michaelwarrecker1445 that’s the joke
The army’s a joke. Who would even want sign up to be in the army after all the exposure
the army is not a joke . the people in her command are
@@jrgant2205 yes it is. More and more ppl won’t sign up
@@wassupbro9919 i agree people will not sign up for the military until this is cleared up very much agree with you
@@CoupleBandz won't. Give my life this no one in damn this world what u talking about
Go Air Force
May the family receive the justice and closure that they are seeking.
We can only hope
So she told her mom about a sergeant but a specialist kills her that had no connection to her🤔 but who was the sergeant?
July 1, 2020, Killeen police located Specialist Robinson, he killed himself before he could be taken into custody. Cecily Anne Aguilar an alleged girlfriend of Specialist Robinson was arrested and charged with one count of conspiracy to tamper with evidence.
Fort hood is a cesspool....I’m sure he was commissioned to cover for the higher up that VG was having an issue with.
You really that’s slow ? He probably lied and told her he was gunna be sergeant or was sargeant and used that against her and threatened her with that title of sergeant
@@DZ-fd3qi An E-5, a sergeant isn’t a high rank in the army.
@@celebritychit6876 he didnt kill himself thats bs made up they killed him
When they say relived of duty does anyone know if for fact that included dishonorable discharge for that whole unit in specific? Just relieved doesnt feel like enough
Probably but Idk, I'm not a veteran or been in the military, or assign to seat where power and authority is very little
Removed from duty means that the people in charge are removed from their position and given a much lower position somewhere else. A dishonrable discharge for the whole unit? Is that even a question?
If you have a really bad boss that doesn't do their job should you be charged?
They all need to be in jail... MAXIMUM SECURITY.
@@kevinphung8748 yes they all corroborated in a murder on some type of level. Nigga if I witnessed a murder in a military base then I’m going straight to the court house because these people will cover each other’s trails like the mongrels they are.
This happens more often than one hears about. People forget that men will be men. You must know that every man isn't going to comply unless he has been taught to respect women as a God gifts to mankind. Like his sister. My father taught me as a small child that men or half man and half dog. I haven't strayed from that and I still think about what he said to me. So, if you are a woman reading this, please keep this in mind. I pray for her family and asking God to calm their souls. I commend them for sticking together and demanding answers.
Men will be men is not a helpful phrase. Yes, men need to use common sense to figure out empathy. The Y chromosome is a virus that loves rape and destruction. Of course, men are allowed to say this to their daughter is going out on a date, but if a woman says it? Oh dear God all hell breaks loose. LOL.
Nice to hear that they're taking "action", but I bet the roaches who did this are still at the base. Also, I know there are still soldiers who are scared to speak out. 😔
MEN NEED TO WAKE UP....AND GROW UP!
WOMEN NEED TO WAKE UP AND SPEAK UP!
GOD MADE BOTH.
RESPECT OTHERS AND LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOUR SELF.
BASICS OF LIFE.
WOMEN HAVE BEEN SPEAKING UP BUT THESE ASSULTS HAVE BEEN COVERED UP..IT'S ONLY NOW AFTER THE MURDER OF THIS YOUNG SOLDIER THAT THEY CAN "NO LONGER " COVER THESE BEHAVIORS FROM HAPPENING.
“Welcome to the great place” 🤦🏽 thank god I’m gone from there
most likely this happens in other bases and other branches,
I mean it does. But no where near as bad as Ft Hood. Ft Hood has a serious problem. Some cases are Cartel and other cases are soldier to soldier.
IM A 22 YEAR VETERAN OF THE US MILITARY! THIS HAPPENS BIGTIME!
@@falcon127 I mean yeah. But nothing like fort hood. It’s not just a military problem either. Happens in what would be a normal workplace environment too. That’s just the world we live in now.
@@falcon127 very interesting, and in the military reporting outside is forbidden that is where crooks take advantage
i cant remember the ladies name but there was a young black woman fighting for her country not to many years ago in iraq or afgan and she was raped by her own squad she had her private parts burned with acid then she was killed this is disgraceful
Yes I remember and they ruled her death a suicide. Despicable.
One more thing, its extremely stupid to try to blame or hang responsibility of this on the commander of the base or any one else besides the killer. Women and men need to be separated at work.
So sad! She was full of life!
Like Vanessa's mother said - Shut down the base!!!!
That's literally retarded. What exactly would that solve?
@@raiden5874 Actually, quite a bit. All movement stops, all training stops, the base goes under full investigation and essentially turned on it's ass. There is so much fucking crime in Fort Hood. That post needs to be shaken from top to bottom. If enough is uncovered, the base can be ordered to lock down, but, things like that are an act of God, but Fort Hood needs that.
@Jake Tapper we shouldn't underestimate this. she's missing, for gods sake. shutting down the base for a bit does have some pros and cons, however.
@@sev3994 never happen
Said but its one person how many people dead in the woods in your town? Anseer millions and millions across the country.There are rapist murderers in all walks of life.Not really a military problem no more than walmart,town hall,mcdonalds
Wake up.
When you commit Murder or crime in the Army "You get fired" Let that sink in.
Love this putting a spotlight on the disgusting behavior at this base and the failed attempt to cover up the bases faults...
Charges should be brought and pension should be taken...firing and suspended ppl aren't going to change...smfh
Now they can look into the young man who was killed the same way
Vanessa was really pretty, she deserved more than this, I’m sorry for y’all’s loss. This is a cold world, we will all be reunited someday soon 🙏🏽💜
No we won't not with just one person we need to pusuade the tons of people to help bring a change
Anyone in leadership should be charged with negligence and manslaughter. Any parent would certainly be charged!
NOPE.
I cry every time I see her family the pure heartbreak in their eyes kills me!!
Those 14 need to be given dishonorable discharges, pensions taken away, and given 10 years at ft leavenworth........ This relieved of duty means nothing
So sad to lose such a wonderful young lady. I can’t imagine being one of her parents. I can’t imagine the pain.
Man this touched my heart. She did and was willing to do more then most Americans will or would ever do.
Absolutely negative you're comment deserves a laughing button
I like how the whole community galvanized and put pressure on the corrupt army leaders, the silenced her so that no one knows the truth.
It also shows a distinct inability of the CID to properly investigate crime without interference of command authority.
Being Army vet, this breaks my heart!
If they weren’t in the Army there would be jail time, not relieved of duty.
Yep. Cops, politicians and military personnel get special treatment. It’s gross. Crimes are crimes.
Jailed for what crime exactly? Did the base Major put his hands around her neck? Did he chop her body up and bury her? Help me out here.. If you hear your neighbors having a yelling argument but ignore it and in the morning you find out the husband killed his wife, do you go to jail too? I mean you heard it right? Why didn't you stop it? See how stupid you sound? The base CO never touched her, he probably never even met her, his fault is not fostering a safe environment where reports from his subordinates are taken seriously, so he is fired and will be forcecibly retired as the Army tries to change the culture for the better. How are they going to charge him for a crime he didn't commit?
why would they get jailed? the fort hood command did not participate in murder or anything illegal, they simply failed to address problems and take action. that’s why they were relieved of duty.
@@adfmo2195 the fort hood command did not participate in sexual assault or murder. they simply failed to do their job to take care of their soldiers, and so they were relieved of duty. it has nothing to do with the “special treatment” you are referring to.
@@juanpablogarcia5362 your questions will remain unanswered until investigations and proofs points out otherwise.
Damned disgraceful.
10:48-10:56 Vanessa’s Momma Gloria’s pain and anguish can be felt and still brings me to tears for her and her families loss.
Here comes the typical sheeps who will justify and say this is a case of a "bad apple" when such cases have been common but gets thrown under the table
No one justifies this with a bad apple argument. Bad apple arguments are just meant to point out that the group can't be painted by the actions of an individual
Power50001562, wrong. The phrase is a bad apple spoils the whole bunch. So it means the opposite of what you think.
@@legalfictionnaturalfact3969 I was responding to the original comment which used it in the way I responded.
@@power50001562 i'm saying that calling someone a bad apple doesn't justify their presence in some group.. it justifies tossing them out into the dumpster.
@@legalfictionnaturalfact3969 yes but the OP was implying that the bunch is already spoiled and anyone using that argument is letting abusers go free. That's just BS
If no one is arrested then their was no justice
This makes me angry as a female veteran. Smh
The guy who killed her killed himself, his ex girlfriend is in jail
There's more to this, don't stop fighting for the truth!!
Thank you brave family for working through your sorrow by making sure this never happens again!! May You Find Peace..