You really really broke it down and explained everything in a clear concise way. And the chart breaking it down really helped. Thanks Bro. I'm subscribing
Thats fantastic! glad to help. thank for watching, subscribing and commenting! I'm always open to suggestions for new video ideas, if you have any questions let me know :)
Robert, thank you!!! OMG, soooo brilliant. In just one hour of re-routing and re-balancing I brought a big mess of a mix back from the dead... Ha! plus this dual-mono thing is insanely smart, because you actually DO get more depth and width and clarity! Ha! who knew?!
Who knew we needed more or that side-to-side multimono compression in our mixes?? Really glad you've enjoyed this method. I absolutely love using it too. I'll have to do more Brauerizing videos in the future!
Finally a worthwhile tutorial. I have been trying to do something like this but haven't been happy with my results. After watching these videos and taking plenty of notes, I'm leaving work early so I can go try this out. You made a subscriber out of me. Thank you!!
Excellent!!! Your efforts are greatly appreciated and your style of explaining is spot on! This was really informative, thank you very much!!! God bless!!!
I ❤️ Canadian accents!! Lol Output = Oteput Routing = Roteing Without = withote Great vid dude! I feel like you explained this better than anyone on TH-cam!
bro, your video's are very informative especially for a novice like me, THANKS, can you do one on the vocal set up of the brauerize technique, like how to set it up in the mixer and use
This is a little like multi band compressing, but much more independent with a vast array of hardware coloring... Great video incredibly well explained!!
Great job on the video - I think you've explained it better than Michael does himself! It's a very helpful layout to simply see the tangled mess! (I always understood that he was separating various sections into different compressors for various flavors, but seeing it mapped out gives me the comprehension I was certainly missing - so THANKS!)
Don't forget to slap a Bx Console SSL 9000 J across all channels and use the Blackbox on drum channels. Saw him do his in a mix with the masters video.
Good video, I've been Brauerizing for a while now it just works great every time. FYI Slate Digital now has their Distressor plugin and it works great (also un-linkable for multi mono compression). Also the FG-MU is a great fairchild plugin option (also un-linkable).
Lots of great info here...the compressors on the master buss though seems wrong. He uses the ssl on the board(or currently with his control console as a plugin) and then he has options like the germanium with a heavy use of the dry wet mix, the Manley, shadow hills or the API. He uses whichever one seems to work best. I've seen him use the germanium often. Also will use the curve bender if he feels it needs it. I Have never seen him use as Avalon as a compressor on the master buss. He will use the Avalon for eq in the B group.
Thanks so much for the great overview. EQ processing after the vocal compressors or just on the individual channels? Also, other online sources talking about this don't spell out like you do that the buses are verse 1, verse 2, chorus 1, etc. rather they take the lead vocal track, split it up to separate tracks for verse, bridge, chorus, and then bus send where you can dial in a combination custom to each section. You method here seems like you'd have to automate the send levels or something for each section. Food for thought.
FYI The Fairchild he tends (tended?) to use on vocals was a 666 which I think was an Opto compressor vs the Vari-Mu of the 670/660. A different device altogether.
Do kick, bass, clap, hat, loops, crash etc., go in one bus, the B bus? Do pads go in A or D? Do I put my leads in C? Sorry for the stupid questions! I am making electronic music. I am not that good yet, just a hobby :- ) What about downlifters, risers, etc.? Put them in a bus or leave them out? Any other tip? And can you make a template for FL Studio?
Hey man GREAT job, Any insight as to why we should or shouldn’t use a drum buss that then goes to the B channel (lows)? And my other nagging question is... why don’t cymbals go to the A channel (highs). Thanks again !!! You’re making a huge difference, be proud and happy 😃 Steve
Both Great ideas, you could try treating the drums on a bus before merging them with the bass on B, sure. I've tried that before. Never sent the cymbals to A though, that could be cool. keep thinking outside the box like that! so many possibilities. What DAW are you on? I just posted some templates for Pro Tools 12 and Logic X
Thanks man, I’m on ProTools 12.4! Only way to fly It’s funny because I’m studying all the time but still feel pretty ignorant, so my idea of “thinking outside the box” it’s probably because I don’t realize that there is a box ! 🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩
I went to your website but I couldn’t find the template (I’m sure looking in the wrong place). But I did sign up for your blog, and the e-book. Thanks for that man
I only thinking of the sends and returns reverb or dellay effects of the keys and strings (Group A) for example, do they need to ge to the same group or to the master out ?
Great vid some really useful info here. You suggest CLA comps for bus duties but as far as I know they can not be unlinked for dual mono, do you split the tracks and use two comps?
Hey thanks for watching. You should be able to open the plugin in multi-mono mode when selecting it from the plugin menu. I've been able to do it with the CLA2A in protools and logic.
Thanks for the quick reply. I was under the impression that the mono CLA compressors are single channel with only one detector. A stereo instance being two channel also with one detector. I contacted Waves support and they said to operate any of these comps unlinked you will need to use two comps. Might be worth taking a look at this. I can put a multi-mono signal into the comps as I use Reaper but it is still being compressed as as one.
Thanks for the comment! I enjoyed your guitar videos, what make is that tele? the natural wood finish looks beautiful, I've been looking into getting a tele like that.
Thanks! They're just ok, but I appreciate it. The Tele was a custom build by a local luthier. However, I no longer own it.. moved on. I own a Senn Pomona now. Check out Jeff Senn's stuff!
Great video and information! I use the Kush Audio UBK-1 for B (Distressor). Sounds great in squish mode. For D (Edward) is use Waves TG Mastering compressor, its stereo widening section is excellent and you can use it in Dual Mono. Check it out!
What's the proper use of the "Delay Compensation" mode? I've been using the Bauerizing method for a while and can never tell the difference from when I use delay compensation or not. When do you know if you should use it? Are there any disadvantages to using delay compensation?
It's something I have kept on from day one after UAD recommended it. Logic compensates for the latency by calculating the amount of latency caused by plug-ins, and then delaying audio streams by an appropriate amount, or by shifting instrument and audio tracks forward in time. It's something you won't hear or feel, just let it do the math!
I love this and thank y ou Bro, thank you thank you, please can you send me the Brauerizing Template please and I have and question for you, if I received the template I will ask you my questing please and thank you
Did you have a suggestion for the "Avalon 1:1" replacement in the box. In the video you just mentionned : "When can just not compress". But you already know that the thing about this Avalon is the color it imparts to the sound. I use compressors the same way on my mixbus (Pendulum or Culture Vulture Phoenix) and I am having hard times finding alternatives to that 1:1 "tonebox" enhancement in the box for easier recall (I already tried VCC, NLS and such). If you have any suggestions :).
Yes! the Beatles used to do this with the Fairchild, and it's commonly done with Neve1073s (run it through the EQ circuit without EQing for more color) So I use the Puigchild if I'm looking for that, or I just use the SSL Bus comp instead. Thanks for your comment :)
Yeah I've heard about this 1073s trick. Apparently tightens up the low-end and adding some midrange and saturation. Definitely a nice trick to try, and way easier on plugins than on hardware (always get freaky with that high-shelf, you never really know if it's properly set at 0). I will try with 1073 plugins. For Fairchild, that's indeed why I use the Pendulum for at the studio. So maybe I should try Puigchild, good shout. I liked the saturation of Slate VBC but the high-mid boost is not desirable to me (it would be perfect without this). Cheers :) !
I recommend the Kazrog True Iron plugin for color and weight here. $40 and it has a great transformer "weight" to it that works similar to the tube "color"
So is he using only sends to mix not the channels end fader? If thats the case how does he do a volume up ride on a kick drum for example, if you automate the kicks send higher its gonna hit the drum and bass buss comp harder effectively making the compressor turn the kick down. Unless he uses another send that bypasses the 4 busses to an "escape" buss.
Great video! I have a question: the optional 1176 and the vocal compressors are to be used in parallel or in insert? I think it has to be parallel (don’t think it’s a great idea to compress a vocal three times in a row but just to be clear). And then, I always find the 1176 to be a little too fast on my drum sounds (I mostly do EDM and Hip Hop) could an api 2500 be a better choice?
The song is called 'Ascension' by 'the Trio From Chicago'. It's a project I recorded and has since become the theme of my weekly show. The album hasn't been released yet tho, their group is getting it mastered right now. Thanks for watching, and for the question :)
I don't use UAD. I'm suggesting plugins that are most accessible for everyone. Of corse you can use a distressor emulation. They make a 33609 I hear is nice, but I'm not paying $300 a plugin!
@@LearnAudioEngineering lol i meant the other distressor emulations like slate digital, arouser or even sknote 😁 check them out as they're all great native alternatives.
I use the CLA 1176 preset for preamp only. The input is set low. I only adjust the output. Should I crank the input also? If so, how do you know how much? Use my ears?
Hey Paul, just saw your comment. Setting the input low will likely not trigger any compression. Cranking the input gain will amplify the source to reach the threshold of the compressor, which will cause more gain reduction and add more of the 1176 'character'. Start with 1-3dB of gain reduction, especially for most of the Brauerizing stuff. Experiment and find what feels right. Thanks for your comment!
Thanks for reaching out! I recently switched over my mailing service. I will make sure they get to you. please send me an email directly at robert @ learn audio engineering dot com
Thank you very much. Subscribed. I do have a question. I know that Brauer typically doesn’t do this kind of mixing but, I want to try his set up with Techno. I use an API 2500 on my drum bus to get a nice pumping sound with the relation to the ever present kick. Does Brauer use other bus comps on grouped elements before hitting the “Brauerized” busses? If done lightly, (ie, not over compressed) do you think it could work? Thanks!
that's a good question, and I'm sure you could 'sub-buss' a few instruments together before hitting the B bus (If I'm understanding you correctly). HOWEVER, the more busses a signal must pass thru will drastically increase the risk of latency. This is why Brauer says his approach cannot be replicated ITB. Don't let that discourage you from trying it out tho! thanks for watching!
Maybe a dumb question, but if one does *not* ride the fader post-comp in favor of mixing *into* it, how would one boost, say a lead vox, instrument or effect, other than very subtly? What if i want to boost something more than a couple of dBs? Wouldn't the comp just clamp down harder on the source? Great video BTW, thank you for posting!
Hey, great question. I suppose in that case you would send that instrument straight to the mix bus so it's not affected by ABC or D bus compression. That way it can stick out without affecting the compressors balance across an entire group. Thank YOU for watching!
Everything, including the vocals go to VCA faders where he can ride the volume hitting the master. Looks like there is also a V bus he uses now in his ITB template.
Just one last thing, and I’ll stop pestering you bro. In the video you say that he sometimes sends any of the 4 busses or even the entire mix through the mono 1176s, which I assume are panned to center. Wouldn’t this compromise the stereo image? Thank you for your patience and thoughtful replies.
Another newb question: Are the two 'extra' 1176s meant for individual mono instruments, e.g. kick/snare/vocal as opposed to a stereo pair? If this is correct, is each 1176 to be used on only one source at a time, or is it ok to send different mono sources to the same compressor (e.g. kick and snare)? Thank you for your time.
Yep, just extra tools used to get a different flavor out of mono sources. iirc Brauer will often use one for kick and one for snare. You could try both kick and snare on the same compressor, and get something completely different that might also work. I believe these 2 compressors are meant to give some extra clarity and shape to important instruments that might not be able to be so forward in the mix without overpowering their compression group (ABCD) So anything that needs an extra push can be sent to one of these,. but adding too much results in the same problem again, and then you'll need an additional 1176 bus for your 1176 bus and that's where latency just ruins everything completely. so layering these busses would be done best in moderation. Great question! thank you for watching :)
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You really really broke it down and explained everything in a clear concise way. And the chart breaking it down really helped. Thanks Bro. I'm subscribing
Thats fantastic! glad to help. thank for watching, subscribing and commenting! I'm always open to suggestions for new video ideas, if you have any questions let me know :)
Robert, thank you!!! OMG, soooo brilliant. In just one hour
of re-routing and re-balancing I brought a big mess of a mix
back from the dead... Ha! plus this dual-mono thing is insanely
smart, because you actually DO get more depth and width and clarity!
Ha! who knew?!
Who knew we needed more or that side-to-side multimono compression in our mixes?? Really glad you've enjoyed this method. I absolutely love using it too. I'll have to do more Brauerizing videos in the future!
MB also uses the Shadow Hills mastering Compressor in te Mix Bus
Finally a worthwhile tutorial. I have been trying to do something like this but haven't been happy with my results. After watching these videos and taking plenty of notes, I'm leaving work early so I can go try this out. You made a subscriber out of me. Thank you!!
Awesome to hear! Glad to have you on board :)
Just wanna add, I don't comment very often, rarely have I seen a video that made me say, "oh I have to thank this guy"! So once again, THANK YOU!!!!
Thanks so much for watching!
Excellent!!! Your efforts are greatly appreciated and your style of explaining is spot on! This was really informative, thank you very much!!! God bless!!!
Many Thanks :) your words are most appreciated
I ❤️ Canadian accents!! Lol
Output = Oteput
Routing = Roteing
Without = withote
Great vid dude! I feel like you explained this better than anyone on TH-cam!
Glad ya liked it eh
Excellent video, honestly one of the best mixing videos i've seen on youtube
bro, your video's are very informative especially for a novice like me, THANKS, can you do one on the vocal set up of the brauerize technique, like how to set it up in the mixer and use
This is a little like multi band compressing, but much more independent with a vast array of hardware coloring... Great video incredibly well explained!!
Simple and easy to take in, very well explained..
Thanks a lot...
Thanks for the feedback! so glad you enjoyed it :)
Did Brauer ever put up on the payroll???… u definitely deserve it
Thank you for walking through all of this.
Don't do this often, but you've done a great job right there!! Keep it up!
Thanks for watching and for the kind words :)
Thank you so much - Greets from Switzerland 😃
Great job on the video - I think you've explained it better than Michael does himself! It's a very helpful layout to simply see the tangled mess! (I always understood that he was separating various sections into different compressors for various flavors, but seeing it mapped out gives me the comprehension I was certainly missing - so THANKS!)
This, was, gold
The chart is everything.
glad that helped for you!
Please share the template for logic pro x. Loved your explanation. And I must say I salute your efforts in making these videos.
Fuse Audio Labs has the VCL 864 which is a software plugin version of the Federal hardware that Brauer uses as one of his 5 vocal comps
Dude I would love a Logic Pro X template for breuerized compression
Great video, this will take some time to practice and learn all the details. Thanks for the info.
Don't forget to slap a Bx Console SSL 9000 J across all channels and use the Blackbox on drum channels. Saw him do his in a mix with the masters video.
Dope breakdown bro. Thanks man.
Al Schmidt dude! That would be sick
Great video man! One caveat to Brauerizing... you gotta get up and dance around while mixing!
LOL... Yep, absolutely mandatory!
Good video, I've been Brauerizing for a while now it just works great every time. FYI Slate Digital now has their Distressor plugin and it works great (also un-linkable for multi mono compression). Also the FG-MU is a great fairchild plugin option (also un-linkable).
BTW loved this video. Liked and subbed. 😎🔥🔥🔥
THANKS!!! Awesome... Great video - thank you for sharing your knowledge!!!!
Got it !!!
Thanks again 😎😎😎
Great video!
WOW! Thanks man
Bro, you went to town, thank you so much!
happy to help!
Thank you so much for this explaination video, really helped me to understand it more clearly! Liked and subbed :)
Very helpful. Trank u! Jeep going dude
Lots of great info here...the compressors on the master buss though seems wrong. He uses the ssl on the board(or currently with his control console as a plugin) and then he has options like the germanium with a heavy use of the dry wet mix, the Manley, shadow hills or the API. He uses whichever one seems to work best. I've seen him use the germanium often. Also will use the curve bender if he feels it needs it. I Have never seen him use as Avalon as a compressor on the master buss. He will use the Avalon for eq in the B group.
Merciiii !
great info,great video,bravo maestro!
I appreciate your kind words. Thank you for watching, commenting, and subscribing!
Can you please make these available again for Logic Pro X? Absolutely AWSOME breakdown
Wow. Great explanation!
Due you are the best. All your videos, why don’t you have more subscribers!?
Thanks so much for the great overview. EQ processing after the vocal compressors or just on the individual channels? Also, other online sources talking about this don't spell out like you do that the buses are verse 1, verse 2, chorus 1, etc. rather they take the lead vocal track, split it up to separate tracks for verse, bridge, chorus, and then bus send where you can dial in a combination custom to each section. You method here seems like you'd have to automate the send levels or something for each section. Food for thought.
FYI The Fairchild he tends (tended?) to use on vocals was a 666 which I think was an Opto compressor vs the Vari-Mu of the 670/660. A different device altogether.
Great tutorial bro📝
SKNotes Distro does a great job on the B bus
man,this is a good video
He uses every compressor in parallel? Thanks!
Do kick, bass, clap, hat, loops, crash etc., go in one bus, the B bus? Do pads go in A or D? Do I put my leads in C? Sorry for the stupid questions! I am making electronic music. I am not that good yet, just a hobby :- ) What about downlifters, risers, etc.? Put them in a bus or leave them out? Any other tip?
And can you make a template for FL Studio?
Reaperiani sent me here
wow so good.. thank you so much
Hey man GREAT job,
Any insight as to why we should or shouldn’t use a drum buss that then goes to the B channel (lows)?
And my other nagging question is... why don’t cymbals go to the A channel (highs).
Thanks again !!!
You’re making a huge difference, be proud and happy 😃
Steve
Both Great ideas, you could try treating the drums on a bus before merging them with the bass on B, sure. I've tried that before. Never sent the cymbals to A though, that could be cool. keep thinking outside the box like that! so many possibilities.
What DAW are you on? I just posted some templates for Pro Tools 12 and Logic X
Thanks man, I’m on ProTools 12.4!
Only way to fly
It’s funny because I’m studying all the time but still feel pretty ignorant, so my idea of “thinking outside the box” it’s probably because I don’t realize that there is a box !
🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩
I went to your website but I couldn’t find the template (I’m sure looking in the wrong place).
But I did sign up for your blog, and the e-book.
Thanks for that man
I will email you templates now!
You should do luca pretolesi next
This is incredible.. Thanks.... I need a protools template with 3rd party plugins.... I have waves.. Softube.. And Tracks plugins... Please help.
Hi, great video. Are the Brauerizing Templates gone ?
Here's a link: learnaudioengineering.com/brauerizing-templates/
Thank you 🙏🏻
Enjoying your work on this. Thank you!
Are things compressed in 3 stages, first on the bus, then on the stereo output, and then on the master?
Tchad Blake!
Cool subscribed!
Welcome! Glad to have you, Nadim!
Thank you for doing this. I have one question. Which bus or routing does his delays and reverbs go through? Thank you!
I only thinking of the sends and returns reverb or dellay effects of the keys and strings (Group A) for example, do they need to ge to the same group or to the master out ?
thanks for the video! you still doing the templates? I did the info a couple days ago and haven't seen an email yet, thanks!
can you please send me an email - robert @ learn audio engineering dot com
I'll send them right over, Chuck!
Great vid some really useful info here. You suggest CLA comps for bus duties but as far as I know they can not be unlinked for dual mono, do you split the tracks and use two comps?
Hey thanks for watching. You should be able to open the plugin in multi-mono mode when selecting it from the plugin menu. I've been able to do it with the CLA2A in protools and logic.
Thanks for the quick reply. I was under the impression that the mono CLA compressors are single channel with only one detector. A stereo instance being two channel also with one detector. I contacted Waves support and they said to operate any of these comps unlinked you will need to use two comps. Might be worth taking a look at this. I can put a multi-mono signal into the comps as I use Reaper but it is still being compressed as as one.
Hi Robert Thanks for sharing how I download the templates please
link is in the description!
He uses an AWA compressor for vocal.
Dan Korneff!
My head . . . I'm dizzy. I'll need some time to be able to use this method.
Great stuff. Question...do you run multiple plugins in serial or parallel?
Which buss does the main vocal go to?
Whoo!
Thanks for the comment! I enjoyed your guitar videos, what make is that tele? the natural wood finish looks beautiful, I've been looking into getting a tele like that.
Thanks! They're just ok, but I appreciate it. The Tele was a custom build by a local luthier. However, I no longer own it.. moved on. I own a Senn Pomona now. Check out Jeff Senn's stuff!
Hey!
How can I send my Drum/Bass bus, to the dual-mono Bus B bus?
Im working in FL Studio.
Thanks for the video. I tried downloading templates at your site however nothing happens when I click the "Send me the templates" link.
if you checked your junk folder and haven't found anything you can email me - robert at learn audio engineering dot com and I will send them over!
Great video and information! I use the Kush Audio UBK-1 for B (Distressor). Sounds great in squish mode. For D (Edward) is use Waves TG Mastering compressor, its stereo widening section is excellent and you can use it in Dual Mono. Check it out!
Nice! great suggestions, Christian!
HI Robert. How much compression does he attenuate the threshold by or does he set it on -1db and then leave it alone
What's the proper use of the "Delay Compensation" mode? I've been using the Bauerizing method for a while and can never tell the difference from when I use delay compensation or not. When do you know if you should use it? Are there any disadvantages to using delay compensation?
It's something I have kept on from day one after UAD recommended it. Logic compensates for the latency by calculating the amount of latency caused by plug-ins, and then delaying audio streams by an appropriate amount, or by shifting instrument and audio tracks forward in time. It's something you won't hear or feel, just let it do the math!
Where do the time-based effects returns get routed to?
I love this and thank y ou Bro, thank you thank you, please can you send me the Brauerizing Template please and I have and question for you, if I received the template I will ask you my questing please and thank you
hi Andy! You can email me questions at: Robert at learn audio engineering dot com
Thanks for watching!
How do you do dual mono in Ableton? I can't figure out a way to get that done. I hope it does it.
Did you have a suggestion for the "Avalon 1:1" replacement in the box. In the video you just mentionned : "When can just not compress". But you already know that the thing about this Avalon is the color it imparts to the sound.
I use compressors the same way on my mixbus (Pendulum or Culture Vulture Phoenix) and I am having hard times finding alternatives to that 1:1 "tonebox" enhancement in the box for easier recall (I already tried VCC, NLS and such). If you have any suggestions :).
Yes! the Beatles used to do this with the Fairchild, and it's commonly done with Neve1073s (run it through the EQ circuit without EQing for more color) So I use the Puigchild if I'm looking for that, or I just use the SSL Bus comp instead. Thanks for your comment :)
Yeah I've heard about this 1073s trick. Apparently tightens up the low-end and adding some midrange and saturation. Definitely a nice trick to try, and way easier on plugins than on hardware (always get freaky with that high-shelf, you never really know if it's properly set at 0). I will try with 1073 plugins.
For Fairchild, that's indeed why I use the Pendulum for at the studio. So maybe I should try Puigchild, good shout. I liked the saturation of Slate VBC but the high-mid boost is not desirable to me (it would be perfect without this). Cheers :) !
I recommend the Kazrog True Iron plugin for color and weight here. $40 and it has a great transformer "weight" to it that works similar to the tube "color"
So is he using only sends to mix not the channels end fader? If thats the case how does he do a volume up ride on a kick drum for example, if you automate the kicks send higher its gonna hit the drum and bass buss comp harder effectively making the compressor turn the kick down. Unless he uses another send that bypasses the 4 busses to an "escape" buss.
yes, often he will send to a separate, kick bus, and snare bus to work around the issue your described.
Great video! I have a question: the optional 1176 and the vocal compressors are to be used in parallel or in insert? I think it has to be parallel (don’t think it’s a great idea to compress a vocal three times in a row but just to be clear). And then, I always find the 1176 to be a little too fast on my drum sounds (I mostly do EDM and Hip Hop) could an api 2500 be a better choice?
I think Michael Brower is in the box these days and slams all channels with Brainworx SSL 9000j plugin
I downloaded your cheatsheets, but the Braeurizing Templates link just took me the Compressor Crackling Cheatsheet. Got the Arrangement Templates ok.
thanks for the heads up, just sent you an email!
What song is in the background at the start?
The song is called 'Ascension' by 'the Trio From Chicago'. It's a project I recorded and has since become the theme of my weekly show. The album hasn't been released yet tho, their group is getting it mastered right now.
Thanks for watching, and for the question :)
I subbed...so much for distressed mixing...
Why not recommend the actual distressor emulations?
I don't use UAD. I'm suggesting plugins that are most accessible for everyone. Of corse you can use a distressor emulation. They make a 33609 I hear is nice, but I'm not paying $300 a plugin!
@@LearnAudioEngineering lol i meant the other distressor emulations like slate digital, arouser or even sknote 😁 check them out as they're all great native alternatives.
cool, I'll check some of those out!
I use the CLA 1176 preset for preamp only. The input is set low. I only adjust the output. Should I crank the input also? If so, how do you know how much? Use my ears?
Hey Paul, just saw your comment.
Setting the input low will likely not trigger any compression.
Cranking the input gain will amplify the source to reach the threshold of the compressor, which will cause more gain reduction and add more of the 1176 'character'. Start with 1-3dB of gain reduction, especially for most of the Brauerizing stuff. Experiment and find what feels right. Thanks for your comment!
i bet you did your school tasks also thoroughly like this?
Really liked your explanation and diagrams. Put my email on your list to receive the templates but maybe it won't working anymore. Thanks anyway.
Thanks for reaching out!
I recently switched over my mailing service. I will make sure they get to you.
please send me an email directly at robert @ learn audio engineering dot com
@@LearnAudioEngineering thanks
Thank you very much. Subscribed. I do have a question. I know that Brauer typically doesn’t do this kind of mixing but, I want to try his set up with Techno. I use an API 2500 on my drum bus to get a nice pumping sound with the relation to the ever present kick. Does Brauer use other bus comps on grouped elements before hitting the “Brauerized” busses? If done lightly, (ie, not over compressed) do you think it could work? Thanks!
that's a good question, and I'm sure you could 'sub-buss' a few instruments together before hitting the B bus (If I'm understanding you correctly). HOWEVER, the more busses a signal must pass thru will drastically increase the risk of latency. This is why Brauer says his approach cannot be replicated ITB.
Don't let that discourage you from trying it out tho! thanks for watching!
A la chucha 🤣
only makes partially sense to me...drums low?...hmm, lots of mids, highs and superhighs...
Maybe a dumb question, but if one does *not* ride the fader post-comp in favor of mixing *into* it, how would one boost, say a lead vox, instrument or effect, other than very subtly? What if i want to boost something more than a couple of dBs? Wouldn't the comp just clamp down harder on the source? Great video BTW, thank you for posting!
Hey, great question. I suppose in that case you would send that instrument straight to the mix bus so it's not affected by ABC or D bus compression. That way it can stick out without affecting the compressors balance across an entire group.
Thank YOU for watching!
Everything, including the vocals go to VCA faders where he can ride the volume hitting the master. Looks like there is also a V bus he uses now in his ITB template.
Just one last thing, and I’ll stop pestering you bro. In the video you say that he sometimes sends any of the 4 busses or even the entire mix through the mono 1176s, which I assume are panned to center. Wouldn’t this compromise the stereo image? Thank you for your patience and thoughtful replies.
they're panned left and right
@@shane2973 Thank you.
Another newb question: Are the two 'extra' 1176s meant for individual mono instruments, e.g. kick/snare/vocal as opposed to a stereo pair? If this is correct, is each 1176 to be used on only one source at a time, or is it ok to send different mono sources to the same compressor (e.g. kick and snare)? Thank you for your time.
Yep, just extra tools used to get a different flavor out of mono sources. iirc Brauer will often use one for kick and one for snare. You could try both kick and snare on the same compressor, and get something completely different that might also work.
I believe these 2 compressors are meant to give some extra clarity and shape to important instruments that might not be able to be so forward in the mix without overpowering their compression group (ABCD) So anything that needs an extra push can be sent to one of these,.
but adding too much results in the same problem again, and then you'll need an additional 1176 bus for your 1176 bus and that's where latency just ruins everything completely. so layering these busses would be done best in moderation. Great question! thank you for watching :)
@@LearnAudioEngineering Thank you.