Wow I thought they would honor the elders , overseers and minstrels a little too much looking back now they make these men into gods with out saying it no wonder when they do something bad they will blame the victim and justify their actions . Thank you for your dedication and bringing awareness ❤
I'n paragraph 5 it says; 'When we pray, Jehovah gives us “the peace of God” that safeguards our heart and mind." The scripture cited is. Philippines 4:6,7 "Be careful for nothing; but in every thing by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known unto God. And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, shall keep your hearts and minds THROUGH CHRIST JESUS." Jesus is the conduit and without him the prayers of Witnesses are ineffective. ☹️
@bghavidel60017 Yes, but Watchtower's Jesus is not the Jesus of the Bible. "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: NO MAN COMETH UNTO THE FATHER, BUT BY ME." John 14:6 KJV The Watchtower organization say that they are the only way to God. 👎
@bghavidel60017 Absolutely correct. The Father draws his chosen to Jesus and they will be with Him forever. "My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, NEITHER SHALL ANY MAN PLUCK THEM OUT OF MY HAND. My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand. I AND MY FATHER ARE ONE. John 10:27-30 KJV
@bghavidel60017 Not at all! Jesus as the eternal Son of God will always be under the authority of the Father yet equal to him. (Colossians 2:9 KJV) "For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily." (John 1:3 KJV) "ALL THINGS WERE MADE BY BY HIM; (the Word, Jesus) and without him was not any thing made that was made." (Hebrews 3:4 KJV) "For every house is builded by some man; but HE THAT BUILT ALL THINGS IS GOD."
@bghavidel60017 Watchtower says that Jesus is an angel.😂 That's not Biblical. All things were created....by an angel??? (John 1:3) You have to decide if you're going to listen to God or men. "My son, fear thou the LORD and the king: AND MEDDLE NOT WITH THEM THAT ARE GIVEN TO CHANGE: For their calamity shall rise suddenly; and who knoweth the ruin of them both? - Proverbs 24:21,22 KJV
In Paragraph 8; "As the apostle Paul wrote, Jehovah “cannot deny himself.” (2 Tim. 2:13) Let's read the content there. 🤔 "Therefore I endure all things for the elect's sakes, that they may also obtain the SALVATION WHICH IS IN CHRIST JESUS with eternal glory. It is a faithful saying: For if we be dead with HIM, we shall also live with HIM: If we suffer, we shall also reign with HIM: if we deny HIM, he also will deny us: If we believe not, yet HE abideth faithful: HE cannot deny himself." (verses 10-13) The HIM and HE in this passage is JESUS. 🙄 (Matthew 10:33 KJV) "But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven."
Paragraph nine question; What do you learn from Tatyana’s experience? We learn that the organization loves to depict witnesses suffering and it's all FOR NOTHING. The leaders will get their turn. (Matthew 25:30 KJV) "And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth."
Yes, one of the precious way n pictures of Jesus Christ is foreshadowed in the Scriptures is THE ROCK. The apostle paul knew this in Israel's history pointed towards Christ n look at 1 Corinthians 10:1-4. Meant in the NWT is also rendered WAS. I am attending the kingdom hall this week to share this. Like last week, I pointed out Jehovah was, Jehovah is n Jehovah will like Jesus was the same yesterday, today n tomorrow.
Shalom Graham, I am from Australia. Perhaps a group of us can help Elaine to visit Australia to give a discourse. Plus a bite to eat with us. Our ministry is called The I AM (YHWH) Foundation
This is something that jumps out at me all of the time in the output of JW's - the constant move to reduce God to a relatable character and not much else. So we have remarks that Jehovah is our _friend_ (and he can be ours'), that he has a _personality_ that can be discovered (in that article it was by considering nature), and here's another example of reducing him to something in creation. This sounds like the sort of language used to introduce children to concepts of divinity, but at some point Watchtower decided it was sufficient for adults too. I see this as a longing in JW's for God to be able to inhabit creation without diminishing himself and Trinitarians have this in Jesus - non-trinitarians have to find another way and JW's seem to be doing this pretty badly..
My friend love JESUS like a rock because that's exactly what he is!!!!!!!! He is also known as the door, the light, the answer to your problems, the Messiah........Jesus is worthy to be here. This god is actually guilty because he is headed to the lake of fire right after he leaves this world with a bang. His next move will be the mark of the beast. Here, he tries to play and replace Jesus. He will get very close but that's it. Replacing Jesus now is really impossible.
@@themananswer-lg2wt LOL! What a huge detailed response and eschatological explanation to my little tongue in cheek comment! Seriously, I love Jesus as THE rock. Not "A" rock. I don't think Paul Simon meant he was Jesus, and apart from Jesus, I don't know how someone would love "a" rock. Thanks anyways for your well detailed response. God Bless
When I listened to you and you went through the WT study article, I thought about how to cure the idiotic way it was written. His rock-like qualities .......................what does that mean? Whoever wrote the article, what and how was he thinking? Didn't he hear himself how stupid it sounded? As always, it's a pleasure to listen to you, Elaine! Greetings from Sweden
Yes, Jesus is the Rock the corner stone of the temple and new Jerusalems foundation stone. Where we get the word ANGLE or corner stone, it’s also used as the word viewpoint or perspective in art. Satan is an ANGEL being put in place of Jesus by Watchtower
@@mattmurdock2868 Correct, that is what I said. So on this Rock = Jesus is the living Rock, I will build my temple = cornerstone which has been rejected by most people
@Uthink_ Amen friend, Christ the LORD is the Rock of Israel. You are My witnesses. Is there a God besides Me? Indeed there is no other Rock; I know not one.' " Is.44:8
I realize some of what I post here may be uncomfortable but I can't stress enough this is very very very very VERY important for the enitire TH-cam community and I need to do this before I'm gone here. All I'm asking you to do is read these posts. That's all. You do not have to comment to me. I am not going to insult however I have to be direct. I know every one of you guys has a gentle heart. Just tap into it please. I will explain as much as I can and I'm not just going to take off. This also involves me so that's why I decided to come on here. I'm not just pointing fingers. I do believe that this god is very familiar with Adam and Eve (the very first event of the bible). This god is also a secret god which means no one is going to know that. I will respond to any comment that is civil however since all this will cause major rebellion I have to close most of them. I can make things easier by including myself in some of the examples but this is related to the holy bible so I really cannot change anything. Hang in there. You can do this. "But you've never even been to a Kingdom Hall!!!" The seats are all padded and it plays out like a talk show.
Yes Jehovah is forever dead. he never had a life. Interesting enough: Their jehovah = DOLLAR. A question off topic: Why in the JW Bible the God who created the universe is GOD and not Jehovah. God Jehovah only comes in in the creation of Adam and Eve? My elder brother in law was all confused: I guess their scholar translators forgot it? He agreed .....................
What is healthy for my spirit??? Praying is healthy for my spirit. Being born again is healthy for my spirit. Being positive is healthy for my spirit. Edification is healthy for my spirit. All these things can change the world and your life!!! Don't expect to have backup from this god though on this. All 4 things he does not like and especially the last one. You start edifying this god will flee from you. Jesus Christ likes it though!!!!!!!!!!!!! Until next time I highly encourage some of you if you're not currently to be born again and renew your mind, body and soul!!! Born again is not a physical thing it's more of a mental thing and comes from inside. Those who are born again just seem a lot more positive to me anyway, you can really tap into their spirit and have it rub off on you.
Well actually you guys we are talking about a fallen angel here (good angel turned bad). We actually know about this fallen angel. It's just some cannot accept it. This fallen angel holds a lot of secrets and I wouldn't count on him helping you all out with that either. I had to find out everything myself sadly. We need to cover 2 things which are going on quite nicely. 1. The inner core of Jesus Christ. Who he is, what he did, what he stands for, perhaps all his miracles 2. The inner core of this god. Same deal scratch the miracles because he cannot be Jesus
And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness but rather reprove (expose) them. What does this verse teach us???? 1. Love does not mean acceptance. If it did this verse would read: Have fellowship with everything. 2. The bible is not direct when it comes to works of darkness however if we compare it another verse it becomes clear. We have When Jesus spoke again to the people, he said, ‘I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life.’” -John 8:12 Now it is clear. Works of darkness mean ANYTHING THAT IS NOT JESUS CHRIST. Let me repeat that. Works of darkness means anything not of Jesus Christ. If you do not have Jesus as your light you remain in the dark. This goes for everybody including yours truly (or the one writing this post right now). That is a little uncomfortable yes however I will be held accountable if I don't promote the holy bible on Judgement Day. Expose in love you guys that means no name calling, no scaring others just to make yourself annointed. That one does not work no matter who does it. Being dishonest might make ourselves happy but God the creator calls it being proud. None of us is exactly perfect we may mess up sure but be honest as much as you can.
Number one reason why I don't believe this is any creator God: Jesus Christ is not uplifted, edified or first place. But you guys are not alone here. In Islam Muslims also believe Allah is a creator God however in that religion Jesus is not first place there either. As a whole Allah does mean God but since Jesus is not first place here Allah is only a version of God not the original. Same principles apply here. This god was really hoping I never got my hands on the holy bible. He was hoping to write my plans instead I edited his own.
"Talents come from the devil." False. Why would the devil believe in talents anyway?? He's got his own little job to do. The devil does not care about talents. He doesn't even care about any of us. Talents come from God Almighty and that's the way it stays. We really need to debunk some of these claims made by this god. He is all over the place here and not a good teacher nor role model for anybody. The holy bible is out there just in case anyone was wondering my view a little bit. "I did not come to make peace but to deliver a sword" This is Jesus talking and the sword remains the holy bible. By the way that statement only applies for right now. Later on everyone will accept Jesus and the holy bible we just need to get rid of all things against Jesus first. Anti Jesus movements and practices have no business being here in the first place and needs to be stopped. Some may not know about him and that's fine but for those who have been told yet still rebel at it.......that one has to go.
Great job ❤ praying for you always
Thank you sister, listening from England ❤
Wow I thought they would honor the elders , overseers and minstrels a little too much looking back now they make these men into gods with out saying it no wonder when they do something bad they will blame the victim and justify their actions . Thank you for your dedication and bringing awareness ❤
I'n paragraph 5 it says;
'When we pray, Jehovah gives us “the peace of God” that safeguards our heart and mind." The scripture cited is. Philippines 4:6,7 "Be careful for nothing; but in every thing by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known unto God. And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, shall keep your hearts and minds THROUGH CHRIST JESUS."
Jesus is the conduit and without him the prayers of Witnesses are ineffective. ☹️
@bghavidel60017 Yes, but Watchtower's Jesus is not the Jesus of the Bible.
"Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: NO MAN COMETH UNTO THE FATHER, BUT BY ME." John 14:6 KJV
The Watchtower organization say that they are the only way to God. 👎
@bghavidel60017 Absolutely correct. The Father draws his chosen to Jesus and they will be with Him forever.
"My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, NEITHER SHALL ANY MAN PLUCK THEM OUT OF MY HAND. My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
I AND MY FATHER ARE ONE.
John 10:27-30 KJV
@bghavidel60017 Not at all! Jesus as the eternal Son of God will always be under the authority of the Father yet equal to him.
(Colossians 2:9 KJV)
"For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily."
(John 1:3 KJV)
"ALL THINGS WERE MADE BY BY HIM; (the Word, Jesus) and without him was not any thing made that was made."
(Hebrews 3:4 KJV)
"For every house is builded by some man; but HE THAT BUILT ALL THINGS IS GOD."
@bghavidel60017 Watchtower says that Jesus is an angel.😂
That's not Biblical.
All things were created....by an angel??? (John 1:3)
You have to decide if you're going to listen to God or men.
"My son, fear thou the LORD and the king: AND MEDDLE NOT WITH THEM THAT ARE GIVEN TO CHANGE: For their calamity shall rise suddenly; and who knoweth the ruin of them both? - Proverbs 24:21,22 KJV
In Paragraph 8;
"As the apostle Paul wrote, Jehovah “cannot deny himself.” (2 Tim. 2:13)
Let's read the content there. 🤔
"Therefore I endure all things for the elect's sakes, that they may also obtain the SALVATION WHICH IS IN CHRIST JESUS with eternal glory. It is a faithful saying: For if we be dead with HIM, we shall also live with HIM: If we suffer, we shall also reign with HIM: if we deny HIM, he also will deny us:
If we believe not, yet HE abideth faithful: HE cannot deny himself." (verses 10-13)
The HIM and HE in this passage is JESUS.
🙄
(Matthew 10:33 KJV)
"But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven."
Paragraph nine question;
What do you learn from Tatyana’s experience?
We learn that the organization loves to depict witnesses suffering and it's all FOR NOTHING.
The leaders will get their turn.
(Matthew 25:30 KJV)
"And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth."
Yes, exactly.
You are the best! Love you ❤
Yes, one of the precious way n pictures of Jesus Christ is foreshadowed in the Scriptures is THE ROCK. The apostle paul knew this in Israel's history pointed towards Christ n look at 1 Corinthians 10:1-4. Meant in the NWT is also rendered WAS. I am attending the kingdom hall this week to share this. Like last week, I pointed out Jehovah was, Jehovah is n Jehovah will like Jesus was the same yesterday, today n tomorrow.
An elderly at the Kingdom Hall today agrees 100% of all I said
Hi Elaine.
I would like to meet you but I’m in Australia.
Been watching you for years.
Please keep up your good work.
Thank you, my friend. Maybe one day we will meet.
Shalom Graham, I am from Australia. Perhaps a group of us can help Elaine to visit Australia to give a discourse. Plus a bite to eat with us. Our ministry is called The I AM (YHWH) Foundation
This is something that jumps out at me all of the time in the output of JW's - the constant move to reduce God to a relatable character and not much else. So we have remarks that Jehovah is our _friend_ (and he can be ours'), that he has a _personality_ that can be discovered (in that article it was by considering nature), and here's another example of reducing him to something in creation.
This sounds like the sort of language used to introduce children to concepts of divinity, but at some point Watchtower decided it was sufficient for adults too. I see this as a longing in JW's for God to be able to inhabit creation without diminishing himself and Trinitarians have this in Jesus - non-trinitarians have to find another way and JW's seem to be doing this pretty badly..
Rock like quality Hard hearted, uncaring for people and their needs and suffering.
stubborn, unmovable, cold
Hi 👋🏻
Your title caught my eye and a song popped into my head which I never understood also.
That song was "Love me like a rock" by Paul Simon
LOL!
My friend love JESUS like a rock because that's exactly what he is!!!!!!!! He is also known as the door, the light, the answer to your problems, the Messiah........Jesus is worthy to be here. This god is actually guilty because he is headed to the lake of fire right after he leaves this world with a bang. His next move will be the mark of the beast. Here, he tries to play and replace Jesus. He will get very close but that's it. Replacing Jesus now is really impossible.
@@themananswer-lg2wt LOL!
What a huge detailed response and eschatological explanation to my little tongue in cheek comment!
Seriously, I love Jesus as THE rock.
Not "A" rock.
I don't think Paul Simon meant he was Jesus, and apart from Jesus, I don't know how someone would love "a" rock.
Thanks anyways for your well detailed response.
God Bless
I know what you meant, I love the song as well. LOL not a problem!!!!!
When I listened to you and you went through the WT study article, I thought about how to cure the idiotic way it was written. His rock-like qualities .......................what does that mean? Whoever wrote the article, what and how was he thinking? Didn't he hear himself how stupid it sounded?
As always, it's a pleasure to listen to you, Elaine! Greetings from Sweden
Hi my friend, thank you for your comment and encouragement.
@@JWEscape My Big honor and Pleasure 😊🙏
The name jehova is a deception!
The letter V did not exist in ancient Hebrew!!
Praise YAH
Keep me in your prayers
Thank you, n I am talking with the senior elder also
The name jehova is a deception!
The letter V did not exist in ancient Hebrew!! Praise YAH
Good news, I got a positive response from one of the elders. More good news, he wants talk to me one on one like Jesus n Nicodemus.
Yes, Jesus is the Rock the corner stone of the temple and new Jerusalems foundation stone. Where we get the word ANGLE or corner stone, it’s also used as the word viewpoint or perspective in art. Satan is an ANGEL being put in place of Jesus by Watchtower
In scripture, "Rock" is a title.
Christ is the "Rock."
@@mattmurdock2868 Correct, that is what I said. So on this Rock = Jesus is the living Rock, I will build my temple = cornerstone which has been rejected by most people
@Uthink_
Amen friend, Christ the LORD is the Rock of Israel.
You are My witnesses.
Is there a God besides Me?
Indeed there is no other Rock;
I know not one.' "
Is.44:8
The name jehova is a deception!
The letter V did not exist in ancient Hebrew!!
Praise YAH
I realize some of what I post here may be uncomfortable but I can't stress enough this is very very very very VERY important for the enitire TH-cam community and I need to do this before I'm gone here. All I'm asking you to do is read these posts. That's all. You do not have to comment to me. I am not going to insult however I have to be direct. I know every one
of you guys has a gentle heart. Just tap into it please. I will explain as much as I can and I'm not just going to take off. This also involves me so that's why I decided to come on here. I'm not just pointing fingers. I do believe that this god is very familiar with Adam and Eve (the very first event of the bible). This god is also a secret god which means no one is going to know that. I will respond to any comment that is civil however since all this will cause major rebellion I have to close most of them. I can make things easier by including myself in some of the examples but this is related to the holy bible so I really cannot change anything. Hang in there. You can do this. "But you've never even been to a Kingdom Hall!!!"
The seats are all padded and it plays out like a talk show.
Yes Jehovah is forever dead. he never had a life. Interesting enough: Their jehovah = DOLLAR.
A question off topic: Why in the JW Bible the God who created the universe is GOD and not Jehovah. God Jehovah only comes in in the creation of Adam and Eve?
My elder brother in law was all confused: I guess their scholar translators forgot it? He agreed .....................
The name jehova is a deception!
The letter V did not exist in ancient Hebrew!! Praise YAH
Of coarse I never thought of Samson assuming the position , the paradise book depicted a pole and no beard .
Thank you. I'll give you "Don't recommend channel"!
Hi Elaine. No.chance me meeting in a coffee shop in Austin. Hope you're OK. Iain Leeds Yorkshire England. 😂
Oh, too bad! Maybe we will meet one day, Ian.
Will i die in armageddon because i refused to become Jehovah's witness?
No no no no
The name jehova is a deception!
The letter V did not exist in ancient Hebrew!! Praise YAH
What is healthy for my spirit???
Praying is healthy for my spirit. Being born again is healthy for my spirit. Being positive is healthy for my spirit. Edification is healthy for my spirit. All these things can change the world and your life!!! Don't expect to have backup from this god though on this. All 4 things he does not like and especially the last one. You start edifying this god will flee from you. Jesus Christ likes it though!!!!!!!!!!!!! Until next time I highly encourage some of you if you're not currently to be born again and renew your mind, body and soul!!! Born again is not a physical thing it's more of a mental thing and comes from inside. Those who are born again just seem a lot more positive to me anyway, you can really tap into their spirit and have it rub off on you.
Well actually you guys we are talking about a fallen angel here (good angel turned bad). We actually know about this fallen angel. It's just some cannot accept it. This fallen angel holds a lot of secrets and I wouldn't count on him helping you all out with that either. I had to find out everything myself sadly. We need to cover 2 things which are going on quite nicely.
1. The inner core of Jesus Christ. Who he is, what he did, what he stands for, perhaps all his miracles
2. The inner core of this god. Same deal scratch the miracles because he cannot be Jesus
And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness but rather reprove (expose) them.
What does this verse teach us????
1. Love does not mean acceptance. If it did this verse would read: Have fellowship with everything.
2. The bible is not direct when it comes to works of darkness however if we compare it another verse it becomes clear.
We have When Jesus spoke again to the people, he said, ‘I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life.’” -John 8:12
Now it is clear. Works of darkness mean ANYTHING THAT IS NOT JESUS CHRIST.
Let me repeat that. Works of darkness means anything not of Jesus Christ. If you do not have Jesus as your light you remain in the dark. This goes for everybody including yours truly (or the one writing this post right now). That is a little uncomfortable yes however I will be held accountable if I don't promote the holy bible on Judgement Day. Expose in love you guys that means no name calling, no scaring others just to make yourself annointed. That one does not work no matter who does it. Being dishonest might make ourselves happy but God the creator calls it being proud. None of us is exactly perfect we may mess up sure but be honest as much as you can.
Number one reason why I don't believe this is any creator God: Jesus Christ is not uplifted, edified or first place. But you guys are not alone here. In Islam Muslims also believe Allah is a creator God however in that religion Jesus is not first place there either. As a whole Allah does mean God but since Jesus is not first place here Allah is only a version of God not the original. Same principles apply here. This god was really hoping I never got my hands on the holy bible. He was hoping to write my plans instead I edited his own.
"Talents come from the devil." False. Why would the devil believe in talents anyway?? He's got his own little job to do. The devil does not care about talents. He doesn't even care about any of us. Talents come from God Almighty and that's the way it stays. We really need to debunk some of these claims made by this god. He is all over the place here and not a good teacher nor role model for anybody. The holy bible is out there just in case anyone was wondering my view a little bit. "I did not come to make peace but to deliver a sword" This is Jesus talking and the sword remains the holy bible. By the way that statement only applies for right now. Later on everyone will accept Jesus and the holy bible we just need to get rid of all things against Jesus first. Anti Jesus movements and practices have no business being here in the first place and needs to be stopped. Some may not know about him and that's fine but for those who have been told yet still rebel at it.......that one has to go.