Hi Jason. Thanks for the video. Is been a while since you made it. Today I made a needle feeder but instead of the brake line and the welding I use a semi truck tire valve stern. I am a trucker you know we fix everything with duct tape and used parts. I am sure you know what I am talking about. It will be good for those like me that sucks at welding. Thanks.
Made up 2 of these and set them on a small hive on Sunday, and I'm looking forward to seeing how they work. I'll try and remember to video the results and get that posted as well. Thanks Jason!
Happy to see you posting more honey bee videos. This type of feeder is what Randy Oliver is using as well. Love the video and content. I need to take one time this season and come up to see how you lay out your yards. Keep the great videos rolling!
I am trying to get back in the habit of making videos. It's time consuming that's the hold up. I didn't know that is what Randy was using but they work very well. Your more than welcome to come check out my bee yard anytime. It's still small but growing fast! I hope to share a video on it here soon.
I love your idea! This will keep me from having to use a hole saw to cut a hole big enough for the jar lid. I met a commercial beekeeper in Jacksonville, TX who used a big (1" round ?)pop rivet that is made for automotive body work and he used a product called Fuze-it (from Lowe's) to seal them. The pop rivets work in a regular pop rivet gun. He uses 1/2 gallon jars on his 10 frame hives and says they work great.
Just make sure you test them out before adding them to the hives. It takes vacuum to keep it from leaking. So if they leak check your lids and make sure they are clean so they seal. I have had a couple that just poured out all over the colony so it can be tricky to get a good seal but once you do these feeders are great.
I like that you made a video. I made some a couple years back.i first tried to solder with a torch and was burning the seals up quick. i now use a small solder iron. it may take a lttle longer, but i dont burn the seals using the iron. oh, i got the idea from randy oliver years ago but he never explained how he did it. glad you did. thanks, i might give the little torch a try.
It started as an experiment but I figured I would record the process. Than after a couple weeks of use I decided to share the video. I really like there feeders. The little torch is key! You can find a link to purchase a small torch in the video description.
Jason, Duracell feeders are the best. Just a suggestion., when feeding pollen an dry sugar during late fall an winter I would place the feeding entrances towards the center of the hive, outside wall's are a lot colder
This is my 2nd year using this This is all I want to use I build over 300 and use them exclusively with some modification on the inside part of the lid is flared to be flat with the lid Thank you for making my feeding practical and efficient
@@SFERDIANthat is a really good idea if u have brake lines laying around u probably have a flaring tool I used some aquarium silicone would have used jb weld but I just ran out see how this works
Have you had any problems with the jars leaking since this video? I like the idea of the feeders. I'm just a little shy of jar feeders since losing a few nucs from the jar not holding a good vacuum and later finding a bunch of dead sugar coated bees. Granted those were the lids with the holes in them. I'm looking for something I can stick on the hives that are a little weaker to give them a boost without the competition of the stronger hives.
I haven't had much issues but there was a one I remember leaking. It turned out the lid was not tight. These are designed to work on vaccum and when there is an air leak the jar leak/drip. I've noticed that the metal lids are slight problem because over time they start to rust then you get syrup in the thread of the jar so it makes getting them air tight harder. I am consider trying some of the plastic lids this year. I think I could glue the tubing in with a hot glue gun.
thanks for sharing, gonna try these on my nuc's. If line extends to far into jar, one could take a demell and cut on edge to allow more to drain. Love this idea.
Actually if you have a brake line flaring tool you can flare the inside then it lays flat against inner lid. Just learned this trick and your the first person I shared it with. 😀
I have not noticed that happening at all. They seem to hold the vacuum until they finish drinking the syrup. The key is to keep the lids/jars clean and get the lids tight.
Plastics lids huh? I never gave that any thought but it does make perfect sense. After the metal lids get wet a few times, getting them off can be a nightmare due to rusting. I think I would try hot glue (from a glue gun) before the JB weld though.
Hi Jason! I've made a couple of the 2 frame mating nucs from a 5 frame as your video shows. Getting ready to put them to use. Any reason I couldn't make these feeders with airline tubing from an aquarium?
What if you did multiple nipples, say a cluster of 5 or so? You'd have to drill a larger, maybe 3/4 hole in the lid, but the hole is still much smaller than diameter of jar lid, so no worries about bees crawling out around the feeder. More nipples=more access for the bees. But do you reach a point of diminishing returns as it starts to become more like a standard perforated lid?
I made these with the half gallon jars. Also used 1/4 copper tubing. The bees were able to crawl up the tubing and cause the feeder to fail. I am remaking with a smaller jar and smaller tubing.
Ok I tried the smaller tubing this time and the feeder is still not working for me. Will burp an air bubble every ten seconds or so. What am I doing wrong. ?
Alexander Troyer I ended up pinching the inside tube to cut down on the amount coming out. Now my issue is not getting any fluid out. I soldered both the inside and out and it still leaked.
I hope that's lead free solder. Excellent solution! I built a bunch of hive top feeders, they're expensive and time consuming as hell, work great but jeeze.
Yes, I should have pointed out that I used lead free solder. I have mad a couple top hive feeders and they are very time consuming. What did you use to seal them so they don't leak? I used wax.
I didn't seal them, I made them so they hold an aluminum pan and they have a wire mesh ladder that goes to the bottom of the pan. I thought about trying to seal them with something because it is hard to find anything that fits just right. I eventually took loaf pans and re-pressed them on a form so they fit my little mini two frame mating nuc feeder body.
I haven't used them for a little while because the sun can cause the syrup to mold on small colonies. Big colonies drink it down fast and the sun doesn't get a chance to do anything.
When I 1st read about this on Randy Oliver's website I thought it strange that you would limit the feeding area for the bees, but it does in fact work very well; with a one gallon mason jar on my NUCS, there is no leaking and no mess! Good Video
Hey mate nice vid, I like the design and ease of construction. Unrelated question, who is riffing on the guitar at the end of the vid? It sounds familiar..
@Matt H I am not sure who that is. I have access to free music to use in my videos and this is just one I liked. Do you play guitar? I've been into guitars since I was 15. Don't play as much as I used to but still have 3 hanging on my wall.
Buzzed Honeys, Inc small nucs don’t need much and if they leak, only draining a small amount rather than large amount. Could use bigger jar on bigger hive
Hello Rod, That is a great question! I have so I started covering each jar with a coffee can. That made a huge difference but requires more gathering of parts.
Mold! Direct sunlight cause the syrup to get black spots (mold I figure) floating around in it. I have heard adding vinegar helps stop that though and it's beneficial for the bees.
The only other issue I have had is if they go dry and aren't filled soon, they bees fill the tip of tubing with propolis. I carry a piece of stiff wire to clean it out if needed. Best of luck!
@@olddave4833 I was thinking the same thing I tried 1 and it was too much heat burnt the lid too much I just ran out of jb weld but I have aquarium silicone so I’m using that I think it’ll be fine we’ll see in a couple days
How's it going Jason? Been watching you for a time now. Good to see a young guy so interested in honey bees. For those who may not be able to solder do you think using an air hose and silicon made for aquariums would work? Keep up the good work.
Hello. I am doing well, thanks. How about you? I think if a person tried to solder and followed the instruction in this video they would see it's extremely easy. But if they did not want to attempt it, I would recommend JB Weld over silicone. It set just as hard as a weld. I don't like using silicone around the bees. Hope that helps.
JB Weld is a good idea. A friend told me about this video and was wondering about the silicone. I'm was a welder in my early years so soldering is easy to me. Now, all I do is bees. I had hives up in Tiffin back 2015. If I'd know you were so close I would have stopped by to say hi.
I live in Fredericksburg, VA but was running bees with a friend of mine who had a pollination contract in Tiffin. I posted a video on it when I went up to place supers. We traveled everywhere working bees. He's still migratory but I don't travel that far anymore. It was a learning experience that taught me a lot. Do you do pollination contracts?
That's cool. No, I do not mess with pollination services. I used to pollinate a 200 acre buckwheat field but just for the honey. I would move 30 hives there, so I know on a small scale the work it takes. Just this year I registered to sell nucs and queens, that the direction I want to grow in.
Hello. I think what I used is the 3/16". Sounds like your going to make some, that is great. Your gonna like these feeders. Besides the break line everything else I used is list in the video description. Good luck
You know, after about 20 they stopped. I wonder if it was just the tube leaked out at first, then the vacuum took effect and stopped leaking.....I'm hoping!!
Hi Jason. Thanks for the video. Is been a while since you made it. Today I made a needle feeder but instead of the brake line and the welding I use a semi truck tire valve stern. I am a trucker you know we fix everything with duct tape and used parts. I am sure you know what I am talking about. It will be good for those like me that sucks at welding. Thanks.
Absolute Champ Jason, well done buddy I hope you go a long way with your bees.
Cheers from Australia
Great! Another project to add to my long list. Thanks for the vid!!! 👍🏼
Made up 2 of these and set them on a small hive on Sunday, and I'm looking forward to seeing how they work. I'll try and remember to video the results and get that posted as well. Thanks Jason!
That is awesome. I think your going to like these feeders. That would be great if you shared your results, thanks!
Thanks for sharing!
Happy to see you posting more honey bee videos. This type of feeder is what Randy Oliver is using as well. Love the video and content. I need to take one time this season and come up to see how you lay out your yards. Keep the great videos rolling!
I am trying to get back in the habit of making videos. It's time consuming that's the hold up.
I didn't know that is what Randy was using but they work very well. Your more than welcome to come check out my bee yard anytime. It's still small but growing fast! I hope to share a video on it here soon.
I love your idea! This will keep me from having to use a hole saw to cut a hole big enough for the jar lid. I met a commercial beekeeper in Jacksonville, TX who used a big (1" round ?)pop rivet that is made for automotive body work and he used a product called Fuze-it (from Lowe's) to seal them. The pop rivets work in a regular pop rivet gun. He uses 1/2 gallon jars on his 10 frame hives and says they work great.
Man that's a great idea
Just make sure you test them out before adding them to the hives. It takes vacuum to keep it from leaking. So if they leak check your lids and make sure they are clean so they seal. I have had a couple that just poured out all over the colony so it can be tricky to get a good seal but once you do these feeders are great.
I like it. It’s better than drilling a large hole and he getting solder. The little hole in the top for the brake pinging is great
They worked well for me this year. I did noticed thought if I leave the feeders empty for long, the bees plug the tubing with propolis.
I like that you made a video. I made some a couple years back.i first tried to solder with a torch and was burning the seals up quick. i now use a small solder iron. it may take a lttle longer, but i dont burn the seals using the iron. oh, i got the idea from randy oliver years ago but he never explained how he did it. glad you did. thanks, i might give the little torch a try.
It started as an experiment but I figured I would record the process. Than after a couple weeks of use I decided to share the video. I really like there feeders.
The little torch is key! You can find a link to purchase a small torch in the video description.
Great idea
Jason, Duracell feeders are the best. Just a suggestion., when feeding pollen an dry sugar during late fall an winter I would place the feeding entrances towards the center of the hive, outside wall's are a lot colder
Thanks for sharing sir! I am gonna try some.
Thank you for sharing. I am goung to give this a shot.
Jason these work good a 1 QU jAR last 3 days on my new packages
This is my 2nd year using this
This is all I want to use I build over 300 and use them exclusively with some modification on the inside part of the lid is flared to be flat with the lid
Thank you for making my feeding practical and efficient
That is a brilliant idea! Thanks for sharing your upgrade!
Jason Chrisman
It is you that showed me and the flare was from Eric Oliver ( Randy Oliver’s son )
@@SFERDIANthat is a really good idea if u have brake lines laying around u probably have a flaring tool I used some aquarium silicone would have used jb weld but I just ran out see how this works
Looks simple enough! Looks like next years project if I can get enough swarms caught!
It would be a perfect fit for swarms. Good luck!
Have you had any problems with the jars leaking since this video? I like the idea of the feeders. I'm just a little shy of jar feeders since losing a few nucs from the jar not holding a good vacuum and later finding a bunch of dead sugar coated bees. Granted those were the lids with the holes in them. I'm looking for something I can stick on the hives that are a little weaker to give them a boost without the competition of the stronger hives.
I haven't had much issues but there was a one I remember leaking. It turned out the lid was not tight. These are designed to work on vaccum and when there is an air leak the jar leak/drip. I've noticed that the metal lids are slight problem because over time they start to rust then you get syrup in the thread of the jar so it makes getting them air tight harder. I am consider trying some of the plastic lids this year. I think I could glue the tubing in with a hot glue gun.
i saw this video 2 years ago and i'm glad i came across it. i like this method best. is the line flush with underneath of the lid?
How long do these lids last?
They can easily last 8 to 10 years if you keep them clean when not in use.
thanks for sharing, gonna try these on my nuc's. If line extends to far into jar, one could take a demell and cut on edge to allow more to drain. Love this idea.
Actually if you have a brake line flaring tool you can flare the inside then it lays flat against inner lid. Just learned this trick and your the first person I shared it with. 😀
I dont think you'd want the tip angled. This works by the bees taking the syrup out, not by dripping, no?
@@wbrian flaring the inside so it sits on inside of lid to allow all syrup into the line. The inside where bees feed is still same original size.
Good job mate thanks.
This is my favorite feeder. 1:1 no problems. 2:1 I had a little issue if I didn’t get the sugar granular dissolved really well it would clog.
Just wondering when those feeders get half empty does the syrup just run out and flood the hive? Thanks
I have not noticed that happening at all. They seem to hold the vacuum until they finish drinking the syrup. The key is to keep the lids/jars clean and get the lids tight.
Great way to feed.What ya think of plastic lids (no rust) and use JB weld?
Plastics lids huh? I never gave that any thought but it does make perfect sense. After the metal lids get wet a few times, getting them off can be a nightmare due to rusting. I think I would try hot glue (from a glue gun) before the JB weld though.
It may work great Jason.I have only seen plastic in wide mouth may be a winner combo.If ya do it give us a show on that thanks Steveo.
Very true. I will try to play around with this idea this year.
good luck!
Hi Jason! I've made a couple of the 2 frame mating nucs from a 5 frame as your video shows. Getting ready to put them to use. Any reason I couldn't make these feeders with airline tubing from an aquarium?
What if you did multiple nipples, say a cluster of 5 or so? You'd have to drill a larger, maybe 3/4 hole in the lid, but the hole is still much smaller than diameter of jar lid, so no worries about bees crawling out around the feeder. More nipples=more access for the bees. But do you reach a point of diminishing returns as it starts to become more like a standard perforated lid?
I made these with the half gallon jars. Also used 1/4 copper tubing. The bees were able to crawl up the tubing and cause the feeder to fail. I am remaking with a smaller jar and smaller tubing.
Ok I tried the smaller tubing this time and the feeder is still not working for me. Will burp an air bubble every ten seconds or so. What am I doing wrong. ?
See comments/replies by Jon Curtis, it is either an air leak in the lid, or the leak will stop after 10-20 minutes when the vaccuum takes hold.
Alexander Troyer
I ended up pinching the inside tube to cut down on the amount coming out. Now my issue is not getting any fluid out. I soldered both the inside and out and it still leaked.
I hope that's lead free solder. Excellent solution! I built a bunch of hive top feeders, they're expensive and time consuming as hell, work great but jeeze.
Yes, I should have pointed out that I used lead free solder.
I have mad a couple top hive feeders and they are very time consuming. What did you use to seal them so they don't leak? I used wax.
I didn't seal them, I made them so they hold an aluminum pan and they have a wire mesh ladder that goes to the bottom of the pan. I thought about trying to seal them with something because it is hard to find anything that fits just right. I eventually took loaf pans and re-pressed them on a form so they fit my little mini two frame mating nuc feeder body.
Great idea!
Awesome.
I hope Ralph starts making more videos
Maybe you should let him know that. I am friends with Ralph on Facebook, maybe I can pass the word along! Until then maybe my videos will help?
Are you still using jar feeders with Nipple. I am thinking about making some for two frame hives.
I haven't used them for a little while because the sun can cause the syrup to mold on small colonies. Big colonies drink it down fast and the sun doesn't get a chance to do anything.
When I 1st read about this on Randy Oliver's website I thought it strange that you would limit the feeding area for the bees, but it does in fact work very well; with a one gallon mason jar on my NUCS, there is no leaking and no mess! Good Video
Dang, your using the big jars! Your not messing around. Glad you like the video.
Jason Chrisman
They are my comb builders😊
Hey mate nice vid, I like the design and ease of construction. Unrelated question, who is riffing on the guitar at the end of the vid? It sounds familiar..
@Matt H I am not sure who that is. I have access to free music to use in my videos and this is just one I liked. Do you play guitar? I've been into guitars since I was 15. Don't play as much as I used to but still have 3 hanging on my wall.
Great demo, just what I was looking for. Is there a reason you use the small jars instead of the big 1/2 gallon mason jars?
Buzzed Honeys, Inc small nucs don’t need much and if they leak, only draining a small amount rather than large amount. Could use bigger jar on bigger hive
Hey Jason, have you had any issues with the syrup being exposed directly in the sun?
Hello Rod, That is a great question! I have so I started covering each jar with a coffee can. That made a huge difference but requires more gathering of parts.
Jason Chrisman. What was the issue?
Mold! Direct sunlight cause the syrup to get black spots (mold I figure) floating around in it. I have heard adding vinegar helps stop that though and it's beneficial for the bees.
Jason Chrisman . Cool thanks for the info. I am wanting to make some for my mating nucs.
The only other issue I have had is if they go dry and aren't filled soon, they bees fill the tip of tubing with propolis. I carry a piece of stiff wire to clean it out if needed. Best of luck!
JB weld would save the heat soldering.
@@olddave4833 I was thinking the same thing I tried 1 and it was too much heat burnt the lid too much I just ran out of jb weld but I have aquarium silicone so I’m using that I think it’ll be fine we’ll see in a couple days
Regular mason jar with a 9penny nail hole in the lid. 1 hole per box underneath. The bees will plug any unnecessary space
what is the fastest time you found that a nuc sucked down a quart? what's average time?
I would say roughly 6 hours but that's just a guess.
Very innovative!! Where can I buy it JC? ^^
Not sure, I make my own. Maybe I need to consider making them to sell? Hmmm....
Could I use copper pipe instead of break line
Yes you can. I should have mentioned that, sorry!
how long do you have to feed the bees. how do you know when to stop?
This video will explain how to tell when bees need fed. Watch it and if you have questions, just ask! th-cam.com/video/gUAPxKMUD48/w-d-xo.html
Jason Chrisman Thank you so much!!
use to use that method 50 years ago for getting water to mice, i raised to feed my snakes.
I never thought about until now but they would work for more than just bees. Thanks for sharing that.
Are you selling Queens?
Yes, for pickup only at this time though.
Ok, Thanks.
How's it going Jason? Been watching you for a time now. Good to see a young guy so interested in honey bees. For those who may not be able to solder do you think using an air hose and silicon made for aquariums would work? Keep up the good work.
Hello. I am doing well, thanks. How about you? I think if a person tried to solder and followed the instruction in this video they would see it's extremely easy. But if they did not want to attempt it, I would recommend JB Weld over silicone. It set just as hard as a weld. I don't like using silicone around the bees. Hope that helps.
JB Weld is a good idea. A friend told me about this video and was wondering about the silicone. I'm was a welder in my early years so soldering is easy to me. Now, all I do is bees. I had hives up in Tiffin back 2015. If I'd know you were so close I would have stopped by to say hi.
Tiffin, Ohio is way north of me, I am in central Ohio (Licking/Knox county line is where I am). Where are you located?
I live in Fredericksburg, VA but was running bees with a friend of mine who had a pollination contract in Tiffin. I posted a video on it when I went up to place supers. We traveled everywhere working bees. He's still migratory but I don't travel that far anymore. It was a learning experience that taught me a lot. Do you do pollination contracts?
That's cool. No, I do not mess with pollination services. I used to pollinate a 200 acre buckwheat field but just for the honey. I would move 30 hives there, so I know on a small scale the work it takes. Just this year I registered to sell nucs and queens, that the direction I want to grow in.
Hey Jason... What size brake line do you prefer? 1/4" or 3/16"?
Hello. I think what I used is the 3/16". Sounds like your going to make some, that is great. Your gonna like these feeders. Besides the break line everything else I used is list in the video description. Good luck
I made some of these and they continuously dip, and it's not around the solder, it's though the tubing.....not sure why?
Sounds to me like the lid is not tight enough. It has to be sucking air some where in order for it to leak.
You know, after about 20 they stopped. I wonder if it was just the tube leaked out at first, then the vacuum took effect and stopped leaking.....I'm hoping!!
I would say that you are correct. Good luck with them.
Was just thinking of going this rout as well.
I really like them.
That' a the feeder. Ralph Jones III has used for years
You are very correct!
i bought some plastic ones of these off ebay.. they drip drip dripped
I didn't know ebay carried plastic ones, that is interesting but it sounds like they are junk if the drip. Thanks for sharing the info..
A hot glue gun works instead of solder!
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