How to install outdoor LTE with MikroTik
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 ก.ย. 2024
- In this video, Normunds is literally "in the field" and will be mounting a MikroTik ATL on the top of a roof.
Devices in the video:
ATL: mikrotik.com/p...
(LHG can be used as an alternative)
mAP: mikrotik.com/p...
(note, mAP has 100mbit ports. For a Gigabit alternative, see "hEX S")
Cellmapper: www.cellmapper...
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So, part 2?
Why not? Should be fun. :)
Yes
yessirrr
1000% yes
Please and thank you!
I like those kind of videos that shows/proofs the versatility of Mikrotik equipment.
You should drill two or three little holes in the bottom of the mounting box. Just in case any water appears in the box (this always happens due to condensation even in waterproof boxes). This way water in the box can easily run out and it will not damage the mAp.
Out in the wild and getting hands dirty. Love it! Would be nice series with Miktoik employees on "How we use Mikrotik gear at home".
Note that map have 100mbps ports. It does not means its a bad thing as you wont be getting a lot more in country side and some urban locations, but you need to pay attention to details like this in general.
Fair to point it out, but in rural setups, you will not reach 100Mbit realistically. If you do, instead of mAP it's posible to use a Gigabit switch instead, this would be a great little alternative: mikrotik.com/product/hex_s
@@mikrotik There is a lot of options, but you will need bigger mounting box. 😐
@@mikrotik 5-10 km range with antenna pointed directly to a tower can get you 150-200Mbit easily. Most of the times i see 150-200 Speeds, unless weather is really really bad. You should start offering outdoor antennas for 5G with SMA connectors. for 5-10km range.
The outdoor setting is very calming, I hope to see more "Real World" Mikrotik videos.
Would like if you guys explained how to choose between ATL and LHG, when one is more appropriate than the other - while doing my research to setup something like this in a remote location, this seems like a question that pops up quite often.
Someone wanted a very simplified version, so I explained it as: ATL if phone signal is good outside and LHG if phone signal is very bad outside - but that is not an "official" recommendation and very generalised/simplified.
Actually your conclusion is very good, I usually say the same.
ATL supports more speed in some situations, so it's good for closer towers.
LHG is better for "last mile" / poor signal areas, where your main focus is to get any connection at all.
@@mikrotik I was surprised to see such poor antenna performance (poor gain) compared to even an LHG(G) which has notorious poor gain around 800MHz. Would be great to see: 1. 5G LHGG 2. LHGG dish design to increase 800MHz (B20) way above 5dB.
I've had 3Mbps ADSL internet in my area.
And an LHG-LTE18 literally saved me.
Getting 350-400 Mbps down with 60-90Mbps up depending on the channels I use.
I LOVE MikroTik.
How did you decide which option to take ATL LTE18 or LHG LTE18
@@snoofixas I didn't. When I purchased my LHG, I think that either the other one was not available in that store, or not available as product in general.
I don't remember.
I do remember that the LHG LTE18 was the only option for LTE18 at the moment. :)
Several years ago we moved to our current residence in the US and found the local cable internet provider was 50ft too far away between the house and the last pole mounted amplifier. I suggested they could install high quality hardline and I offered to pay for it but got no response. (com-finity). Our first provider ended up being centurylong DSL at 6 mb down and .9 up. Almost enough to be able to do something online and at a premium price. Next was a Mikrotik LTE6 device. I did like that one, I thought I had figured out where the tower was. Turns out I had found the wrong tower and the one I wanted was roughly 180 degrees opposite from where I had initially pointed the LTE6. Once this was resolved we did have a reasonable signal from 1 mile away and had a 50 mb download speed, more or less synchronous and very stable. Several years into this and the provider (ATT) placed a limit on speeds to 25 mb. At around the same time rates for the data only service jumped by 50% and fiber became available. Of course we have moved to fiber since the 4g LTE rates became outrageous. Based on personal experience the Mikrotik device was definitely the way to go if the ISP was cooperative.
Great video!
It would be interesting if more videos were available on the topic of installing Mikrotik devices in domestic or external environments.
I love your videos man. You are the best.
your videos are very interesting. they are of great help. They show me clearly how to create a system that I plan to build at home.
I have the tower (BTS) to the south of the apartment, while I would like to have the signal in the room which is located to the north. My biggest problem is to avoid inserting cables into the corrugated conduit, as there is no space, the tube with a section that is too narrow is crowded with other video cables and old telephone and voltage cables.
What you have illustrated is a solution for using only the Wifi signal at home. while I would like to have a network cable to make good use of the entire signal. I have a HiFi system and I listen to music by downloading it from the internet with a subscription
Good job bro! Thank you!
Muito bom o vídeo. Colocou a mão na massa.
I will suggest to put lighning protection with ground instead of MAP router...
You're right, the mast seems to be the highest point on the house, it's possible at some point in the future it will get hit, and damage the LTE dish alongside..
over the top metal rod, on a wooden house, the recipe for a disaster
yeah, my first thought, what a dumb idea to put that high metal rod on the wooden house...
It could be very helpful if you demonstrate how to use cell lock feature for this and\or LHG LTE18 device.
From what I’ve read, cell lock is not necessary anymore, it does it automatically or something like that.
Nice, Very Good!
OMG! Yes, that's obvious the OTG usb will provide 5v 🤦♀️. That creates soooo much possibilities.
Shame i didn't find it out few yeasr earlier.
Thx
A QM-E would have provided more stability and adjustability than that QM-X, but overall, a nice install.
I did try it, but it's a little bit large and looked too clunky.
Thank you, Normunds! Very educational video. Very important mount antenna higher than roof, not just because of signal. In my case antenna was mounted a little bit lower than roof line and when snow start moving from roof my antenna was destroyed. Interesting part that motherboard wasn't injured but rest was destroyed. Is it any possibility to order plastic case as a spare part? Thank you!
Nice explanation
Great! This video gives me the chance to ask you guys about an issue that this devices seems to have. I keep losing connection to the ATL LTE throught winbox either IP or MAC address connection. There are more people having the same problem. I updated to the latest version of RouterOS, routerboard to latest version and LTE to latest version too. Nothing seems to fix the problem. Any comments @MikrotikLatvia
Edit> Please understand that I tried connecting to the ATL LTE from several devices and with several cables :)
Did you try to update the software by chance? I had this issue every time I updated LHG and had to install the update through Netinstall, to unbrick the device
1. Вы перестали указывать в характеристиках угол (Antenna beam width) для LTE-роутеров. Верните его, это важный параметр
2. Как узнать поддерживает ли мой мобильный оператор (и самое главное мобильная сота ) технологию 4х4 MIMO ?
3. Укажите на сайте для каких конкретных расстояний до базовой станции оператора вы рекомендуете конкретное LTE-оборудование. Это категорический важный параметр что бы понимать какой результат я получу покупая ваше конкретное оборудование
4. Поддерживает ли модем R11mL-EG18-EA обновление прошивки также как и ваши LTE6 устройства?
5. Есть ли программное ограничение с стороны мобильного оператора на длину "радио-моста" ? Если есть где о ней узнать
скачал приложение на телефон от cellmapper, почитал немного википедию, и помучал своего мобильного оператора, есть что рассказать:
5. По звонку в тех поддержку мобильного оператора (киевстар) мне ответили что программно не блокируют работу с клиентами из-за дальности клиента от бс.
4. Судя по вики обновления прошивки поддерживают только их модемы (R11e-LTE + R11e-LTE6) и хуавеи, все остальное - нет.
2. Тут вообще печалька, мой телефон имеет модем 16й категории, с помощью софта от cellmapper увидел что телефон в лучшем случае подключается к 2м сотам от одной и той же БС и если я правильно понимаю то это упирается в 6ю категорию (300/50 мбит) и толку от 4х4 MIMO просто не будет. Техподдержка мобильного оператора заявила об скорости интернета в 700/90мбит, что не соответствует никакой катеогории модема, а когда прямо спросил про категорию модема - заявили что это конфиденциальная информация
Is there no lightning protection necessary?
Grounding is an interesting topic, we will try to explain it in a separate video.
I also noted this. Perhaps Mikrotik want "repeat sales" because an ungrounded unit will not survive the first summer lightning storm!
@@mikrotikAs I understand in my area it is mandatory to earth the mast with 16mm2 copper and add over voltage protection on every point the cables enter the house. Has prevented me so far from mounting equipment outdoors.
@@darthfaydehr2200 not even any device connected to...
@@darthfaydehr2200 I've been using my ungrounded unit for 3 years now without any issues. Not saying you shouldn't ground it though. Just stating that first summer storm may not obliverate your device.
mAP is only 100 mbit, ATL utilize 1 gigabit. Better to use Omnitik 5 PoE ac or similar.
hEX S is better, but if you get 1Gbit from operator, maybe you need Chateau instead
@@mikrotik I use Omnitik 5PoE ac, and use also 2 (before used 3-4) mikrotiks LTE for bonding-broadcast EoIP (inside WG). CHR on both ends. 1 IP address for VPS. 140 megabits without lags and disconections. "Не единого разрыва!".
@@mikrotik or maybe you hiding from us mAP ax with 2.5 gigabit ports? Rofl.
Love the Chateau product like. Be great to see this product come with port5 POE out capability.
In my case Fuj: tech P-60MIMO with Huawei router does better than the LHG LTE18 kit in the attic.
Currently running a load-balancing setup with hEX S and LTE18 router. May switch out hEX S with OPNsense box instead. So I can run Suricata IDS/IPS
Mikrotik recently announced a very interesting new feature - Back to Home VPN. A huge request to you, please make a video on this topic.
Was wondering if in a case really similar to this, Latvian broadband and distance to tower, would there be a noticeable difference between SXT LTE6, LHGG LTE6 or ATL LTE18?
1) SXT LTE6 is for short distance and low speed requirement, maybe 1-5km to tower. (Because CAT6 modem is slower than CAT18 modem in the ATL)
2) ATL is for higher speed connection, where tower is further, middle distance, but also has a lot of available bandwidth. It has CAT18 modem and more antennas for higher speeds.
3) LHG is for longest distance, where any kind of connection is needed, but speed is lower priority. It can be useful for very rural location, where phone has no service, but you have a high mast above the house roof, then you can reach useable internet with it.
I guess you create one VLAN for the Internet connection and another VLAN for management, just the same as the one you did in a previous video.
I live next to a cell tower where the lte didnt have internet
And i want to use the lte from other cell tower , how to exclude the tower next to me
When will the ATL be available in South Africa?
it is available in South Africa, here is a list of shops: mikrotik.com/buy/africa/southafrica
If one shop does not have it, ask others too. Also, they can order the item, if it's currenty not in stock.
@@mikrotik thank you
What is better for a rural area where the communication tower is about 15 km away and it is in a valley, this device or LHG LTE18 kit
LHG would be better for longer distance like you described
Where to buy this waterproof box?
mAP not good if we talk about speed. Mobile can give you 200Mbit Speed , LTE output 1Gb Lan , but mAP passthrough only 100Mbit. So in that case you lose all upper 100Mbit. ...
Maybe MT can provide mAPv2 with 1Gbit ports ?
P.s. the same for hAP mini .
No, if you get 200mbit, you don’t need this setup, watch video please 😊
Using now MikroTik LHGG LTE6 kit will the lte18 bring me better signal in rural area please?
No, the antenna is the same in all LHG LTE Models, the modem is different, but it will not improve signal.
Thank you
This video is great! try to use mikrotik in real world, not only in paper.
Is a North American 5G version coming soon? Pretty please :-)
Where is the speed test?
There is no use to show it, in LTE setup, each case will be different
Side by side, how would an atl compare to an lhg ?? I have an lhg-18 aiming at a tower 2+ miles away and avg 170m.
How would the atl do?
ATL supports more bands and some higher speeds, but in your case there probably will be no benefit. ATL would be better for towers that are closer. What speeds are you getting now, at best?
@@mikrotik [dave@LTE18] /interface/lte> mo 0 o status: connected
model: EG18-EA
revision: EG18EAPAR01A12M4G
current-operator: T-Mobile
current-cellid: 68760963
enb-id: 268597
sector-id: 131
phy-cellid: 367
data-class: LTE
session-uptime: 38s
imei:
imsi:
uicc:
primary-band: B41@20Mhz earfcn: 40780 phy-cellid: 367
dl-modulation: qpsk
cqi: 15
ri: 2
mcs: 1
rssi: -41dBm
rsrp: -68dBm
rsrq: -7dB
sinr: 24dB
[dave@LTE18] /interface/lte> /tool bandwidth-test address= duration=10s user= password= protocol=tcp direction=b
status: done testing
duration: 10s
tx-current: 14.4Mbps
tx-10-second-average: 14.8Mbps
tx-total-average: 14.8Mbps
rx-current: 196.5Mbps
rx-10-second-average: 175.5Mbps
rx-total-average: 175.5Mbps
random-data: no
direction: both
connection-count: 20
local-cpu-load: 66%
remote-cpu-load: 3%
[dave@LTE18] /interface/lte>
If the tower is 3-4km range is ATL ok?@@mikrotik
intresting setup, are MikroTik ATL support 5G yet?
The newest version supports LTE18 but not 5G - to be fair, we are unlikely to see 5G in remote areas anytime soon. Most providers offer LTE4 or LTE6 anyway. Some offer 5G in urban areas in which Chateau 5G should probably do fine.
Although we are working on some outdoor 5G devices 👀 I would like to agree, that, if you have 5G coverage, most likely there is no need for a rooftop antenna.
@@mikrotik I disagree about this because RSSI is not only important measurement for good LTE performance. So some kind of LHG outdoor 5G device would be really nice.
Looking forward to more LTE6 or LTE8/18 products for USA market.
Like to see something that is for “marina” use. An outdoor OMNI LTE antenna.
Complete against Peplink LTE products.
The more LTE products be great to see a MikroTik cloud control to connect to them out of band over cellular. Make for awesome zero touch deploy to business customers.
speedtest on this 5km distance?
75Mbps, no clear line of sight
Did they release part 2?
Not yet, any specific questions for potential part 2?
@@mikrotik Not really, would be cool to see a bunch of speed tests on diffirent bands in such environment :)
where do you put the sim card?
It's inside the ATL, there is a SIM slot
@@mikrotik thanks
You don't groud LTE device
It depends on the region, in some parts of the world it’s more important than others
ахаха, ставят по направлению к металлической крыше? а как же отражения от метала? будет намного лучше ловить если поставить по направлению к базовой станции сотового оператора и уже после металлической крыши.
Вне зоны Френеля. Не страшно.
The antenna is pointing slightly up, fresnel zone is not touching the roof. It’s not our first rodeo with wireless devices 😎
@@mikrotik I replied the same )))
Вітаю, але монтаж то не ваше. Кабель у коробку заводьте з низу.
Oha, Since you can not stay still and therefore I write this comment: PLEASE PLEASE never lead cable up again as at the top of the pole and in the outdoor box please also from below. This prevents the water running along the cable enormously! Otherwise, this video is a perfect example of where the enormous price performance strengths of Mikrotik lie. Alone the 5V from PoE solution I have been able to use with some older Rasperry Pis, the specifications are exceeded but the good quality cushions that ;-)
Cable does not go to the top of the pole here. Maybe you misunderstood something. There is a cable drain loop below router
4g
fake tutorial xD