Tips for Negotiation and Pricing: Animators and Digital Artists
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ต.ค. 2024
- Money is an annoying yet necessary topic for Artists. Brent Noll and Maximus Pauson explain Negotiation and Pricing for Digital Artists and animators.
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how to set up a good portfolio would be good.
Hope they see this. I'm starting to work on my own and I'm not sure what all to put in it.
In another video, they say to just start posting your art online. Instagram, personal blog, whatever. The portfolio itself doesn't have to be polished. As you amas a body of work, you can delete old/bad entries.
The best way to create a good portfolio is to cater it for the job you want. For example, say you wanted a job in character design right? You would create a portfolio filled with maybe around 8 or 10 pieces of your best work that best match what would be expected of a character designer. Also, if you have a specific company in mind, look at the work they've produced and try to emulate the kind of style that they are known for into your own portfolio for the best results! Hope this helped!
Oh yeah thats for me at least one of the most important one
There are a lot of specific portfolio guides online, most are good but make sure to look at a few
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When some asks why do I charge so much when drawing is so easy, I reply back they'd save a lot more money if they draw it themselves. I never hear back from them again. Has made my commission life that much easier. XD
@Naofumi Iwatani Thank you very much. :)
Nice retort
Robert DeJesus? Oh hey, I see your work all the time on Facebook.
@@TheCSJones Hey! Yeah. Thanks! ^__^
why am i not subscribe to you yet dem,been a fan for a while
99% of art channels are like “I’m a self taught teenager who only ever marketed stuff online, but I think I’m ready for giving professional advice”. You guys are one of the few who actually know what they are talking about.
Client: Why do I have to pay you 1500 for work you did in 15 minutes?
Artist: Because it took me 15 years to learn how to do it in 15 minutes
ohhh I like this!
Because it would take them 15 hours
like the picasso story^^
"Picasso is sketching at a park. A woman walks by, recognizes him, and begs for her portrait. Somehow, he agrees. A few minutes later, he hands her the sketch. She is elated, excited about how wonderfully it captures the very essence of her character, what beautiful work it is, and asks how much she owes him. “5000 francs, madam,” says Picasso. The woman is incredulous, outraged, and asks how that’s even possible given it only took him 5 minutes. Picasso looks up and, without missing a beat, says: “No, madam, it took me my whole life.”"
Chuck Finley wow...
"Would you rather i took 15 days to do the same work?"
P.S. new artists,
PLEASE DON'T UNDERCHARGE because it messes things up for EVERYONE. This is why people ask for $1 character sheets on the internet and other such BS.
sorry
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This is important. Why can lawyers charge $250-$500 and hour. Because they don't have a bunch of other lawyers willing to do the work for $25 an hour. They are in agreement that their talent is worth a lot. Don't work for cheap. Don't do it!
Sorry
eee I kind don't understand this
I love it when you guys talk shop. Id love it if you talk more on getting that first job or where do you look for that job.
It's good that you start building an audience and just say you are open for commissions. Set a cheap price and just offer what you know you can do and enjoy doing. Nothing complicated.
@@AngelaMerici12 'set a cheap price'...pretty sure that's not what's being advised here.
@@geeArtworks He wants to know how to get the first job. We don't know how he illustrates and neither the commissioner. After having the first commission he/she would rise the price.
@@AngelaMerici12 I'm not a professional Illustrator, but I'm friends with one and he says it can be hard to raise your prices afterwards, always best to ask for the price you deserve from the beginning.
@@geeArtworks Even if you start with fair prices from beginning, your prices should always go up because of different factors: availability, rising in popularity, improvement, eventuality, hiring assistants, etc. If you find difficult to rise your numbers your going to lose money in the long run.
I've been working in games and TV for over 10 years and you continue to answer the questions people are afraid to ask about their own practices and careers. Thank you for making a difference in my life and those I share these videos with. Equally as important, thank you for teaching us how to learn better as artists.
0:45 How much should you charge?
0:47 understand client - can they pay
1:03 Charge hourly
1:25 Estimate work time
1:42 Consider different types of artwork needed to complete a project
1:56 inform the client about these different types
2:03 Consider your expenses
Recommended Pricing (2019):
2:31 Amateur $15
2:42 Journey $25
2:53 Professional $40+
Negotiation rules:
3:31 1. Always negotiate
3:57 2. Say the first number
4:33 3. Don’t flinch
5:19 negotiate via email, have it in writing
5:25 practice negotiating elsewhere
5:40 discuss your rate of pay with other artists
6:12 completing a job in less time than you estimated/charged for
6:44 keep track of your hours for accurate estimates
6:48 weekly rates (40 hrs/week) - check union minimum wage rate
7:12 online commissions - use slot system
7:41 art is a viable resource, take yourself seriously!
Seconded on all the tips here, though I prefer to be paid up front which is why I charge flat rate instead of hourly. Prices are based on the average number of hours, so in a way it works out to be the same thing in the end.
YES YES YES!!! The art community doesn't discuss the business side enough. Thank you so much for sharing this; It's so informative and important for young artists and recent graduates to know this.
Psychology and health related topics when it comes to art is also very scarce. Stuff you guys do to avoid repetitive stress injuries or to keep you motivated could be a cool topic, since it's unique to everybody what works and it seems most people forget that crunching a year out on art will just get you to have an anxiety attack at looking Ps/An UI with a nasty back.
Dude I love this. I feel very strongly about this topic. Thank you for this awesome suggestion! -MAXIMUS
Search for "ulnar nerve glides", those are great stretches to do if you work at a cintiq. My physical therapist recommended putting a pillow below my arm so I'm not just holding it up all day (again for working at a cintiq). Also, building up some muscle around the arm and back will help give more support to your hard-working tendons!
Wow, thank you guys so much! I've graduated and I usually do work for around $15-$20 an hour so this really made me realize I should probably up my prices some. I feel almost embarrassed to charge what a highschooler should charge!
I know that in the animation industry it's very important to socialize and gain contact with other people. But there's also a lot of artists who are socially insecure.
Do you guys have any tips for these people how to approach others in say animation festivals or online? Do's and don'ts.
Abe TheArtist well think, how many frames is it you have to do? And how long does each frame take (give yourself time.)? Multiply those numbers and then multiply that for what you want to make an hour. And you can also consider padding it out with an addition for it being time sensitive, and exclusivity if you can’t commit to any other projects until this is completed. And then add 10% and then that number should be your first pitch. They should say it’s too much. Then ask what their ideal rate is, and if they’re near enough, you, take off that 10% and offer that. And then start lowering your rate if need be. But always keep in mind what your hourly rate would be at a price you agree to.
@ Can I help you to do the animation please?
I didn't really see that the other replies answered this question, so I'll take a stab at it. I totally get feeling socially insecure, many, MANY artists feel this same way! I find animation folks in general to be a little less judgemental about not knowing social graces. If you meet an artist you really like in a casual setting, I'd ask questions about their work, and let them know specific things I like about their work e.g. "I love the way you use color" or "This shot your boarded is so iconic!". PLEASE don't put them on a pedestal. It's very, very uncomfortable to be around someone who treats you like an all-knowing being! You can ask them for feedback on your portfolio, but if they decline, please don't press the issue! I know our union, The Animation Guild (IATSE Local 839) does free portfolio review events too, so check that out!
Try to be confident when speaking about yourself, and have an idea of what specifically you want to do. If you want to get a studio job as a storyboard artist, for example, tell people exactly that. It's easier for people to remember "Pin Bin the storyboard artist I met at Comic-con" vs "Pin Bin the animation fan who seemed desperate for any job" haha. It's also okay to not know what you want to do, or to want to do multiple things. People move across different crafts all the time! Maybe a smaller studio where you can wear multiple hats could be a good fit for you. Anyway, I hope some of that was a little useful? Good luck, Pin Bin!
@@celisewillis Thanks for the reply. :) Those are very good and useful tips, and I totally agree with you. Learning how to approach people in the industry can be be a taunting task for many, especially for a student, since you don't want to come out as being bothersome. But it's something you get more comfortable with through enough practice, and I'd say I've had a lot of that myself. I've found that keeping a conversation casual, and not necessarily work related, has helped me feel more relaxed and the conversation more natural. Whether a conversation with someone leads to work later on or not it does not really matter, as the focus of the moment is just to have a nice chat with someone you happen to meet (whoever they might be).
I saved this video months ago and I thought "well, I'll probably never really watch it because no one will EVER want to buy my art". But this week a friend told me "please, draw this for me and give me your price, you're so talented!". And it brought tears to my eyes, honestly. And here I am, learning about how to charge my first paid art.
I'm actually very nervous. I think 15 is a good price, since it's my first one and well, I'm an amateur.
Thank you so much!
Excellent information as usual. This is a great format. No extra skits and editing were necessary. I'd rather have the info.
This kind of format I think is very valuable to anyone trying to know more about good topics like these.
This video is great as well since I'm living somewhere where the art community is scarce/more traditional painting leaning.
This sort of advice isn't easy to get.
Heck I didn't even know there are unions for art professionals out there. It blows my mind
So you guy will be standing there motionless for 25 hours? wow the dedication i stan
why not stand here with them?
@@stinkyphantom7437 Oh don't worry I didn't move or blink for the past 3 hours
thank you for this video! I havent started doing freelance art yet, but i want to start and wasnt sure how to price.
Did you draw your pfp? Its super cute!!
@@xandelta5306 oh no, it's a commission I got from peach deluxe on Tumblr ^^ look em up
@@oraayo7351 ah alrighty!! Thankyou 💞
It's 2022 but I am still rewatching your videos! great content guys! thank you for being so informative!
I've been recently updating my commission TOS in hopes of getting back into doing art commissions, so this was IMMENSELY helpful in understanding decent price ranges better--thanks so much for making this.
Hey guys, this is awesome. Seriously thank you! Would love a video like this about a "typical" animation studio pipeline. I think a lot of guys would benefit from this and it may help them figure out where they could fit in, within an animation studio or feature production.
Excellent channel, looking forward to your next vid!
Already covered in their video: "So...You Wanna Make an ANIMATED TV SHOW?"
Unless you want anything more specific.
@@ColinJWiens Thanks man ill have a look I'm a very new sub to their channel,
so I haven't had a chance to go through the catalogue.
This is priceless information right here. THANK YOU GUYS for sharing this rare info out here for us noobs!
I think it’s actually pricey info if ya know what I mean.
Great vid guys! Its so good to finally see some transparency and discussion on this topic. I've been in the (Australian) animation industry for close to 10 years and only in the last few have I realised that your pay rate will never move unless YOU take the steps to make it happen. Negotiating still makes my skin crawl but it is totally worth it.
Im graduating with a graphic design degree and I can illustrate.
Double benefits for you, my clients. :)
this is great!! 🙌
Thank you!
Omg AM your big fan Laura aka lulu sketches 😜
I feel like you could probably make this a regular series- this is basically a filmed podcast, and I feel like some of the more popular youtubers are doing that now. I like this podcasty thing themed around the art community and stuff- it's fun and necessary to hear!
I enjoy the heavily edited videos, but the sheer amount of information that can be communicated in this format with less production strain on you guys is something I think would very much be worth pursuing.
I'd definitely like to see more of this.
i bet who dislike this video were cheapskates who always ask for free potrait!
Probably it was more the part where they mention that they would charge 10h even if it took 8. They did recommend to charge hourly in order to protect yourself and the client, but that doesn't sound like protecting the client much but taking advantage of them. Always negotiate your best deal, but also be honest, if you over-estimated your time it's your fault not your client's. Charging for not working is as bad of a practice as asking for work in exchange of exposure (i.e. working without charging).
Note: excluding that part, I really liked the video
@@DiegoBM the client has already agreed to the price you set. if you get done quicker, then it's like you got some supplies on sale and saved some money. do you charge the client more if you end up spending 12 hours on the project instead of 10? no. if your estimate ends up being way off from the actual amount of time it took you, then you need to take that into account on future estimates. it would be dishonest to continue quoting work at 10 hours when it takes you only 5 hours to complete, but it's not dishonest to be a little off. it's called an estimate for a reason.
@@TimConceivable actually it's the opposite, if it takes you more than anticipated you are allowed to charge more and that's why you are encouraged in the video to charge by the hour instead of per job to protect yourself, and that's why it's called an estimation, and obviously it should work both ways if you are truly honest. Try having contractors refurbishing your house, and see what happens if they take longer than anticipated.. Hint: they won't continue unless you pay. Finally, a little off might be reasonable, in the range within the hour or less, because that's your unit of charge and it would be more complicated to break it, but the example is 8 hours out of 10. 2h is basically one fifth of the job, doesn't sound fair to me.
BTW: when they mention that the client "has agreed to a price", that's a contradiction that they have in the video, since that would mean that they are in fact charging per job instead of per hour, invalidating the initial recommendation and with no way to protect yourself from last minute changes for example
IMO, that's like buying a 12 back of muffins at the supermarket, then going back to the store to return the 3 you couldn't finish, expecting them to give a portion of the money back.
If not, you could always use that extra time to at more finishing touches (without overdoing it of course), or work on presentation, so it looks extra professional when the client receives it 😊
@@joashbritto that's another case of charging per product, you know that you want 12 muffins, the bag of 12 is the product that you want to purchase, not 20 nor 2, you make that choice, if you over-estimated your hunger that is your problem, not the supermarket's. In the case at hand the client wants a piece of art as soon as possible, the product is the piece of art, the client is not trying to purchase 10h, because if s/he could have it in 8h, would prefer 8h, or might be happy with 12h, but the client is trying to purchase a piece of art as soon as possible.
Anyhow I agree on your second point, in reality the client will never know if it took you less than your estimated so it's pointless to even argue it, that's why it needs to come from each person's principles I guess
Great video! And yes, talking with colleagues is essential for rates/etc. It raises everyone up!
You guys are amazing. I love this channel. I've always had a hard time understanding what I should charge for something I do for free in my past time.
As a student going to school for animation, any advice and insight you guys put out is extremely valuable. This video isn't as light hearted as your other stuff but this isn't a light hearted topic and I can appreciate that. I think continued mixed output would make for an interesting juxtaposition in your content. I would subscribe again if I could.
This is really helpful. I’ve only had a few commission pieces but it was difficult to give a price, since drawing isn’t my regular job and giving an hourly estimate wasn’t always a comfortable situation as I wasn’t sure how much time something would take
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actually they make the ones we want to...
damn this is just too good.
This is such a great video, as always. Where were you guys 3 years ago when I was trying to figure out how and what to charge? Watching this really reassured me that I have been doing things (somewhat) correctly as a freelancer. It's great to have the confidence boost.
Do you have any tips on managing client expectations while still keeping one's own ego in check? I get so pissed off at stupid requests from clients that sometimes I've had to wait a full hour before I reply to an email to make sure I'm calm and measured; and I'm sure it's because they don't understand the work pipeline or the amount of time it takes to do something. Like you say in this video, "there's a tendency to think its all just magic". How does one take the client 'behind the curtain' without boring them to death or giving them a crash course in digital art production?
This is great. No one talks about this thanks for saying hard numbers and discussing weekly rates etc.
Great videos guys!
you guys alone have helped me more than any art class had in just 4 of your random videos. You guys need a donation button already.
On one of your previous videos, one of you responded to a storyboard question I asked. I would love see a more full video on that or an animator's views when trying to adapt a script in general (like, language that's helpful or when the writer is being intrusive on directing the visual).
Gentlemen, I've been working in television for over twenty years and no one has ever spoken about this essential part of the industry so candidly and with more straight answers. I really do appreciate it hearing this. It will definitely make a difference moving forward. Thank you!
You look really professional, this was a great video, you’re awesome!
Just a hobbiest love working on photos and drawing cartoons but i love your channel and it’s refreshing to see a video where you actually throw out real numbers instead of just the thousands of “know your worth” stuff “ask people in your area” I really appreciated get a wide idea of what the stuff is really worth.
Not sure if I've just been watching you guys too long but daaaaamn, Max is looking a snack!
... Oh and also, thanks for everything guys.
Hey, love your channel! As an animator working in Canada its really awesome seeing how things work in America as well as just seeing the industry from a different view.
When they said 15$ an hour for amatures I was shocked!! :0 minimum wage here is not even 8$ so it was near double!;-; I've never charged that much for a full drawing let alone by the hour!! I rarely get commissions as it is, I'm worried if I charge that amount, people will just get turned off and not interact with me. Is safe to do what some artists do and charge by the size? Like some do a headshot for 10$ and a full body for 40$ ?
Well, it also depends on you and your client’s location. Sadly economics isn’t equal everywhere, there will be places that you can charge “more” and there will be places that you need to charge “less”. Say US vs PH, minimum wage in US is 15$ but in PH it’s only 300-500PHP depending on which region which would be about 6$-10$ only.
@@lunasbix4338 Yea, in USA, the minimum salary is around $1000 while in my country, Pakistan, its $70 per month. Crazy!
I found this super helpful. As a young artist, companies tend to take advantage of you because they know you need the experience and have no other leg to stand on. Im a graphic designer right now but I would love to do character animation in the future and you guys are the only helpful people on youtube for that!
I liked it before the video comes out. Ur content is one of the best I've seen. Keep doing this amazing work. Sending my love 🙌💩
I am currently in school to learn animation and trying to make a living while here through my commissions... this was the BEST!!! and simplest video on understanding pay rates and commission.
I thank thee.
so weird I was thinking about this channel video all the sudden I get notification
TH-cam recommended this to me and I can't even explain how good the timing of this video for me is. Thanks guys
Don't flinch, bruh. - Sun Tzu 2019 twitter quote.
The fact that you two provide the most comprehensive and informed videos that fits the exact void I was missing only a handful of years ago when I first introduced myself to the industry. I hope you folks continue to interact with commenters who voice appreciations and reccomendedations. Videos tend to be incredibly watered down, droningly long, and/or are reduced to recycling of the 12 principals without much threading between them or delving too far outside of them. Your personalities are welcoming and warm. While at times your videos get a little goofier than my taste, I can tell it serves the purpose of keeping topics friendly and allows broader audiences to come along, however, how many TH-cam channels will inform the viewer that they'll need to file as a sole proprietorship on their taxes if they want to take this life seriously. BaM seems to be a perfect outlet for kids to not just develop an understanding of an artform, but to develop an understanding of and industry. I think that experience is rarely found on TH-cam for any industries, let alone animation. I admire the month or more you put into each episode. Its the attention that makes your videos feel like your looking out for us while transparently looking out for yourselves, not dissimilar from a parent doing what's best for their kids. This is admiral work. I encourage you to keep it up.
me: * realizes im working at 1940s minimum wage *
GUYS! I just discovered your channel last week and is amazing, you have no idea how many people ask me this and never believe me when I tell the facts. Keep doing this I will share it everywhere!
Any news vids coming soon? I love your guys channel :)
I really, really appreciate you guys for this. As somebody who never got taught these things, I'm so happy you're saying these things because I'm a very non confrontational person by nature so negotiating scares me! But knowing that it is not only expected but encouraged to be the first to say a number makes me feel more confident.
I would like a talk about portfolios
This video was interesting, maybe in one year i come back to see it again
Hello ! I'd like to know your opinions about freelance website like Fiverr and Upwork ?
anything you'll say about the subject will be helpfull :)
Me too, I used to work on these websites. It is rare to hear artists take these websites seriously, and common consensus is that these websites are filled with clients that wants thing to be done quick and (really) cheap. It is basically a waste of time and energy for who lives in a place with high life expenses.
It’s great if you want to beg people to hire you and then work for almost nothing.
i’m some guy you don’t know, but i’m also a freelance animator/motion designer. Sites like those are a race to the bottom, because you are competing with prices that are well below a professional rate. Stay away.
All you said is true, but what if you have no real fanbase ? How can you sell your work ? And creating one takes a lot of time...
I'm an animation student who's graduating soon but had no idea how pricing work so thank you! This helps a lot!! 😭
What about merch how much should you charge for that, like if the material costs 5$ and you made the design in 3h + printig is 10$?
Ps: Thx for all this amazing vids luv u guys.
You have no idea how much I appreciate you guys going over this topic. I wished my school had a course in the art program relating to pricing, how to file taxes as a freelance artist, and contracts. I appreciate dipping my toes in various art mediums but I would've also liked to have had some guidance on how to deal with employers/clientele.
I'm still trying to figure out my Animation commission rate... @_@
Look at what other animators charge for their rates vs their skill set. Also, never charge below minimum wage per hour.
I'm still trying to figure it out too lol.
@Entertainment Fanatic Animation is so tricky...A good way to start figuring out the estimated time is to know how many key-poses there will be. Then add a new estimation for in-between based on how many per key-part there are to make. Still a headache to figure out...
If one want to get into game animation (every kid's dream), however, NEVER rate per sheet like many noobies does!
Things like "This character moveset have 6 moves for around 80 frames (counting in-betweens)" always result in mechanics overhaull at mid-project that add new moves, clients asking for rework/polish, maybe extra idle/damaged animations, of couse all for free "since it's still in the same sprite-sheet and you rated on this basis, no matter if there's changes, right?".
That's such a common practice from shady small studio-less teams it's disgusting...
I guess you all are into animation... I am between the choice concept art studies or animation. I'm indecisive, which one do you think I should study?
I love both, but idk which one would be better, talking about jobs and stuff
Thanks so much for this! I just graduated from a multimedia arts course and I've always doubted myself when it comes to putting a price to my work, so this helps a lot!
About earning: what can you say about Patreon and alike sites?
What do you want to know about them?
@@ColinJWiens For example what tiers are attractive, what works best in general, how many things I should offer on each tier. Is a certain price is too high/too low etc
@@anettemcomics211 Well they have a pretty informative Patreon in the description. 2-3 tiers are normal, but make sure they don't cost more then they're worth. Their highest tier is $35 because they have to dedicate significant personalized time to it. Some artists make a high tier with limited slots for commissions.
I gotta really thank you guys for taking the time and the extra mile to help out smaller or beginner artists you don't get that much on this platform
One of the best videos that is very clear and straight to the point. I wish my art school would have give us a business pricing class. Sadly most of us older had to figure it out on our own. Thanks guys!
I don't care if this gets lost in the comments (if at least one person sees it, fine by me)
I have to say that you guys are the best teachers and proffesionals that I've found so far.
You are pros (like I just said), you go straight to the point and even beyond that, making a vast difference between all the other tutorial chanels that doesn't give one enough insight or certainty to what to do or where to start in the art/cartoon/animation world.
Watching just one your videos was enough reason for me to subscribe (that was yesterday, 05/10/19) and, even if I don't get far with my "creative" work, I will know that it will be my fault, because your classes are impeccable.
Again, thank you guys.
Thank you so much for sharing this! I've been doing freelance gigs on the side here and there for the last couple of years, and I always get anxious whenever I have to think of my rates with a new client. This was incredibly helpful.
Best video hands down. Please don't stop giving us hungry artists your insights. I'm sharing this with my kids aswell....
I can't even begin to accurately express my gratitude for the work you guys do on this channel so I'm not gonna try but just know that you guys are deeply appreciated.
Also thats a dope ass pocket square.
I'm 16, was scared on how to make commissions for a yearly event. Thank you so much guys!
I was actually just starting to get a lot of commissions as a high school artist and was curious about art pricing/pay. This video is awesome, thanks so much!!
Bam is the best resource I(/we, the internet) have ever stumbled across. Absolutely amazing! There is like zero fat on your sentences and the topics you cover are sensational, especially ones like this, that were once only privy to industry.
Just... Thank you!
And, in-case it wasn't obvious, I am in awe.
Oh my LAWD THANK YOU!! I love the practical tips, the casual tone, and I also appreciate that you guys cut right to the chase and kept the video short!
Extraordinary video guys. I cannot express how much I appreciate it. I've done freelance illustration and never had any sort of guidance on this topic, so even after such a long time it feels reassuring that many of the things my subconscious was trying to tell me that they were extravagant and that I needed to suffer for my art, are bs, and that I deserve a liveable wage. You're a blessing to the community. I miss you uploading. Much love from Colombia
This video was so informative and as a new artist in the field. No one has spoken about the subject up front and clearly. Clear to the point and honest thank you!
I love your advice, and I especially love the down to earth format of this vid. While your skits are fun, I feel that the imformitive content stands up better with your natural curisma!
Man, I could have used this video 10 years ago. This really covers all the bases, especially for those just starting out.
I think this is my new favourite youtube channel. Just quality content after quality content and a sprinkle of weird humour at times. You guys deserve so much more!
As someone who has just moved to the LA area to pursue a career in art and animation this is extremely helpful! Thank you guys so much!
This video is necessary to say the least! Not everyone in the creative industries have the openness to speak about money! Thank you for the valuable content
Episodes like this are perfect -- there's so much confusion around these topics! I'd love to hear more shop talk
Loving this video! So many people are not talking about money and like you said, its so easy to get taken advantage of. (At least in Germany, money is a no go subject to talk about, except in interviews but only briefly) Thanks for giving actual numbers to build around and a good video to set own rates. You guys are the best! Greetings from Germany :)
I just wanna thank you guys cuz in every video you guys make, I learn a ton of information, and being a foreign student that wanna get in the animation area is not easy. Thank you guys, you're awesome :)
I really just cannot express enough about how much I appreciate you guys.
My art and animation has improved directly because of you guys.
I have considered selling my art before and now I got a understanding of the critical business aspect of it.
I feel like I am not just this fish out water about it.
I really love the energy and enthusiasm you put in each video. It has all been a source of inspiration for me each time. They are each gems.
So I just want take a moment to thank you for what you do and the effort you put in just because you wanted more information and pointers available for beginning artist.
I really appreciate you guys.
If I ever get somewhere with this. I hope I can give back like you guys.
You guys are actually my art heroes - THANK YOU for such cohesive, well-constructed advice. Truly appreciated
I love this simpler format! While goofy stuff is fun, these serious topics treated with a serious attitude is great. Not to mention that this advice will certainly help not only me, but quite a few others as well. Thank you so much, that was extremely enjoyable! :]
You guys are the only ones that actually tell useful information about our line of work. Thank you!
I love you guys so much
a months ago I lost my passion on art and animation but thanks to you I'm constantly drawing and improving
Hell, now I'm even doing 3 commissions
I can't express my gratitude enough
This video just came at the right moment!! Yesterday I got a message from a guy that wants me to draw for a comic book and I didn't know what to change.
Everything and say and teach us is gold. Please, guys, keep on doing videos. Personally, I'd love to here more tips about self promotion and creating your audience, bc it's so much harder than it seems these days. I feel like I can't even properly negotiate and charge people for my art because my customers are so rare and valuable for me. Having very small follow base and support makes you too grateful to those who actually love your work, they are like friends. And I'm not even a beginner level already.
wow I am not even from L.A. but this video was very informative for me too. Thanks for sharing BAM Animation
Thank you so much for this. Late 39 and making a career change from teaching to art after being told that I’d never make any money in art. It’s a bit overwhelming! Your advice is so helpful, thank you!
Omg, honestly I've always been wondering this side of art. I've been considering doing commissions for a while and this was the biggest concern I've had not knowing how to deal with it. This video was so informative and helpful and I can't thank you guys enough.
Having started freelance a couple months ago, this video is sincerely a blessing. Thank you so much for all the good tips and clear informations!! that is exactly the type of content i was searching for C:!
This video was very helpful, and much appreciated. I’ve been a professional illustrator for decades… (Just dabbling in Animation) and bidding on projects has always been the hardest part of the job. Thanks also for all your great tutorials on Animation! You guys are the best!!
This is such a great video not only for animators and drawers but also for any type of artist. Learning how interact with a client and stand up for yourself in the industry is such an important skill. Thanks for the vid bois 🤙
first time in my life as an artist found this kind of information, thank you guys you are awesome