Polyend Poly: Polyphonic Eurorack MIDI to CV converter

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  • Tutorial and overview of the new Polyend Poly eurorack polyphonic MIDI to CV converter. This allows you to use your digital gear like a DAW, drum machine, keyboard, iPhone, etc to control your eurorack modules. The "polyphonic" part means that you can play chords and assign each note of the chord to a different oscillator for example. There are 8 different channels, each with gate, pitch, velocity and modulation jacks.
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  • @EthanRMus
    @EthanRMus 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you! Been trying to understand MIDI to CV converters and you are the first person I found actually explain it thoroughly. Do you happen to know if there are any MIDI to CV converters that allow for more than 8 channels?

  • @cybershark3095
    @cybershark3095 6 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    This will also trigger alerts on my credit limit as I purchase 8 of something to create an 8-voice monster.

  • @_lime.
    @_lime. 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Amazing video! I've been trying to figure out this module before i buy, couldn't seem to find a good clear video on it. Thanks very much!

  • @robertsyrett1992
    @robertsyrett1992 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great vid, I don't think I'll be trading in Yarns anytime soon, but that looks like an amazing interface. I especially like that it can power the keystep. Also, this would have been a good opportunity to use the disting as a percussion sampler or clocked looper, but I guess it wouldn't be doing anyone any favors to have a 1 hour video. Looking forward to where you are taking this series next :)

    • @MrFlatlandcycle
      @MrFlatlandcycle 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was going to say, "This is Yarns on steroids." This video is one I will have to come back to many times, trying to apply it to Yarns. It would be crazy useful if I had any idea how to play 8 note chords. Nearly impossible for me because I usually have a beer in one hand;) It's the first note priority, and then trigger these other things, magic as usual.

  • @jonaseggen2230
    @jonaseggen2230 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Liked that tune with the sample. Literally sweet : )

  • @miguelesteves9740
    @miguelesteves9740 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great teaching skills, I can't afford Eurorack yet, but I'm learning synth functions for sound design from you already!

    • @onceuponasynth
      @onceuponasynth  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      awesome, glad to hear it!

    •  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Vcv

  • @LaymensLament
    @LaymensLament 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Where have you gone, synth man? :>

  • @aphexon.
    @aphexon. 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    phew!! you're not dead :D Great vid tutorial :) thank you!

  • @skunksmisery
    @skunksmisery 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    whew, this one has the intro music. Catchy!

  • @VictorSteiner
    @VictorSteiner 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The FH-2 und the Hermod can also do the chord polyphony. The Hermod doesn't seem to allow any settings for it, whereas the FH-2 is very customizable.

    • @onceuponasynth
      @onceuponasynth  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah the FH-2 looks like a solid contender

  • @housemachine509
    @housemachine509 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love this next on my list

  • @cueva_mc
    @cueva_mc 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome module! Great video!!

  • @wesleylima7519
    @wesleylima7519 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice video!!!
    I would like to know!
    What module are you using? Please!

  • @DBPawlan
    @DBPawlan 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent video. So I suppose that I can sell my Yarns, FH-1 and CV Pal now and replace it with this?

  • @Chicle777
    @Chicle777 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What happen in First mode at 5:45 if you release the lower key you pressed first and repress it on a lower key while playing the upper melody? Does it understand that pressing a lower key should trigger the first voice again? Does it act truly duophonic/paraphonic?

  • @N.A._McBee
    @N.A._McBee 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The Polyend Poly's manual officially says: "Please notice that Poly module Gate outputs are 0-12V (the Eurorack norm is
    0-5V)". And then all values are given:
    • 8 Gate Outputs (0-12V)
    • 8 Pitch Outputs (0-12V,V/oct.)
    • 8 Velocity Outputs (0-12V)
    • 8 Modulation Outputs (0-12V,selectable CC message 0-127 using
    DIP switch on the back panel) Poly Module play modes.
    If the Eurorack standard is 0 thru 5 volts, why do they build this thing offside these limits? I have bought it because I've seen youtubers using it on its own within a normal Eurorack. Moreover, the Moog Subsequent 37 is built to Eurorack standard and has 3 CV ins and one gate. Will I destroy it when I connect it to the Poly's outputs?
    I'm heavily confused now and have to consider returning it to the vendor... What I wouldn't like at all...
    Any suggestions or explanations? Thanks beforehand!

    • @Gogootz
      @Gogootz 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I am by no means an expert, so hopefully someone can give you a more extensive reply, but since eurorack power supplies give +/-12v, any professionally made module should be able to handle those levels. If a module is designed with an input range of +/-5v and receives a signal outside of that range, I think it just clips at 5v. Someone correct me if I'm wrong though. I own the Polyend Poly and I've had no problems with it so far, except some interference with another module when connecting USB devices.

  • @JubileeGiggles
    @JubileeGiggles 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Looks like a way to fill your working space up with cables quick

  • @jokkemartens8065
    @jokkemartens8065 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Now could this be done with an arduino (or similar)... It will be my new quest.

    • @gorgahtroth8421
      @gorgahtroth8421 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jokke Martens if you find out, please reply here and lemme know.

    •  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Been doing it for a while

    • @jokkemartens8065
      @jokkemartens8065 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gorgahtroth8421 I actually bought 2 midimuso's.. So didn't go the arduino route, but went a little more expensive, but easier.

  • @trimusfree
    @trimusfree 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome! Would You mind showing Us more tricks using Elektron and Poly Eurorack together?

    • @onceuponasynth
      @onceuponasynth  6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'll throw that up on my todo list, thanks!

    • @robertsyrett1992
      @robertsyrett1992 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Totally, digitakt + modular has so much potential and I don't really see it out there. If you don't I will ;)

    • @lockyp204
      @lockyp204 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is it possible to plug in and modulate a digitakt. But then plug in say a linnstrument via the USB port and play a patch with that?

    • @onceuponasynth
      @onceuponasynth  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      luap ekcol: do you mean having 2 MIDI controllers connected at the same time in different ports? I'm not sure if that would work and whether the ports all get merged or if only one is active at a time.

    • @lockyp204
      @lockyp204 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ok Cheers for that. Thanks for your posts

  • @golafs
    @golafs 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    nice song at the end:)

  • @natejmattson1870
    @natejmattson1870 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Can you set it to have, say, 4 voices be drum triggers and 4 to do CV / Gate stuff or is it all one of the other?

  • @MrFlatlandcycle
    @MrFlatlandcycle 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Menu diving vs dip switches, I like dip switches, just stick them up top;) Don't let functionality take a back seat to aesthetics.

    • @MartinDoudoroffLLC
      @MartinDoudoroffLLC 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah... what the heck is up with that?

    • @MrFlatlandcycle
      @MrFlatlandcycle 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      While sleeping my lizard brain told me I need one of these. Off to Modular Grid to plan some space.

    • @MartinDoudoroffLLC
      @MartinDoudoroffLLC 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well, don’t overlook the Expert Sleepers FH-2

  • @BarryWarne
    @BarryWarne 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    awesome. I could buy 4 Microbutes and have an inexpensive 4-voice

  • @housemachine509
    @housemachine509 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just picked this up barely any videos on this on the tube hope not to many kinks on it

  • @Strateggo
    @Strateggo 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    time to make some tests with the new Doepfer poly modules, yeah?

  • @DaveChips
    @DaveChips 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I need vice versa... How do I get CV from pulsar to send midi messages to my daw, triggering perc sounds?
    Any links and tips are welcomed

  • @DIGITALSWOON
    @DIGITALSWOON 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    it sounds like modular would be better for polyphony with different timbres, but not the other way around; might be harder/more expensive to get more of the same modules if you wanted more of the same timbre? in that case maybe you'd want to just get a nonmodular or semimodular synth?

    • @pagarreton
      @pagarreton 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Gordon Fremen there are Doepfer polyphonic modules that are 4x

  • @beatnikcafe
    @beatnikcafe 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can the Poly be setup to have the first 4 rows be set to midi channels and the next 4 rows to midi notes, for instance, if you wanted to have 4 note polyphony + 4 percussion from one sequencer/controller
    Also, could you use your app and only the modulation outputs from the Poly while still using the midi channels mode for polyphonic playing modes?

  • @jmfhsmith4923
    @jmfhsmith4923 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So, on the channel mode for drum triggers of different notes, do you get a second out for each not to convert midi note velocity to cv for each note? I really need that.

  • @gullyman777
    @gullyman777 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does this do anything like oscillator cycling on every note like the korg monopoly or round robin mode on the matriarch? :)

  • @D_VAULTZ
    @D_VAULTZ 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pleae could someone let me know if there's there currently a way to combine multiple daw midi cc / mappings into one midi value .rather than to combine their individual midi to CV signals by stacking patch cables together?

  • @waltersmetak
    @waltersmetak 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sorry if this a rather dumb question - but would this be something like a, say, Expert Sleepers ES-8? Could I integrate, say, VCV with my hardware via the Polyend?

    • @onceuponasynth
      @onceuponasynth  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm not that familiar with the ES-8 or VCV. But anything that sends MIDI can be used with the Poly. So as long as there's a way for VCV to send MIDI data then you should be able to integrate it. There's no way to send data from the Poly out the other way though, so it would be one way control.

    • @mynmyself
      @mynmyself 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Es-8 will convert the signals from VCV into actual CVs you can use in your modular (this could be gates, pitch, velocity and "modwheel", but you could also send lfos, envelopes, etc). I use ES-3 with Reaktor and my eurorack in that way, so is like having extra 8 cv or gate sources I can reprogram everytime I want inside Reaktor. You could do the exact same thing with ES-8 and VCV with the convenient that the ES-8 also offers inputs, so you could send voltages and gates from your hardware inside the computer to control VCV (so for example, trigger VCV Rings Resonator with an actual hardware trigger sequencer).
      The Polyend is great in many ways as it makes it very easy to make actual poly or multitimbral patches that will receive note on/off and pitch info from a digital device. I used to have a Vermona quadmidi, this offered the same although only had 4 voices, and I would use it to sent midi sequences from my MPC and electribe into the modular. Now with ES-3 I can do the same, plus add all the extra modulation I want from Reaktor (or VCV, Silent Way, OScilot, Max/msp, bitwig... almost any modular software), the only problem is I need to use my computer, whereas with something like the Polyend or Vermona quadmidi, I could just go to town with my MPC and eurorack
      Hope this makes any sense... ive decided to give a long answer as I myself struggled with this same stuff a couple years ago

    • @waltersmetak
      @waltersmetak 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the reply! Looking for ways to integrate VCV (and VST in general) with hardware - the ES 8 seems to do the trick - expensive module (though necessary) - caught you very fine video and got to curious about integrating it with something like VCV or Softtube

    • @toxicsounds9491
      @toxicsounds9491 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      mynmyself I know this is an old comment but thanks for the infoz this really helped 👍

  • @razorbladeray8439
    @razorbladeray8439 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can this work for source audio c4 synth pedal because it has usb

  • @uhoh007
    @uhoh007 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is FH-2 better?

  • @Judasz696
    @Judasz696 ปีที่แล้ว

    Discountiniued. What's the alternative?

  • @johnnymidnight2982
    @johnnymidnight2982 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Burly jam @ 13:00

  • @tilliinfinity
    @tilliinfinity 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    nice vid! i won the analog keys which works great with modular and u can do that voice cycling shit if u want. could be cheaper than euro ;D