Aliens land tomorrow. "Take me to your leader" " Ummm, errr..... have you got any other planets on your schedule you can do first and come back later?. We didn't know you were coming and the house is a bit of a mess".
@Andreaz-64 Tens of billions of species have existed on Earth, but fewer than ten that we know could build a campfire. I think that Clarke meant intelligent, technological species for "we". However, "we" have only ever decided that it is immoral to kill, eat and make handbags out of "us". ;)
@Andreaz-64 I heard that a goldfish passed the mirror test, where it recognized its own reflection as itself. We may find intelligent octopus like creatures below the ice of Ceres or Enceladus. Let's hope they won't taste like chicken.
There's no need to search for beings more advanced than ourselves. They're already here and always have been. They're just smart enough to keep their existence from the public until we're ready for that knowledge.
I'm skeptical about radio signals, as a long lasting indicator of technological intelligence. Techno-signatures, e.g. regarding the atmosphere of a planet, or the star, maybe a more reliable way to go.
yes. Which why I'm confident that if the James Web Telescope launches this october by the end of this year the every news paper's headline will be about candidate worlds.
As a practical matter, I think it would make more sense to simply search for other life in the universe. A planet without life obviously won't have intelligence life. We now know that any planet that has life and an atmosphere, will have an atmosphere that's in a recognizable type of disequilibrium that life causes. All we have to detect is that disequilibrium. We have learned much about early conditions in our solar system, and how planets of various types form, and about the many solar system catastrophes that threaten life. This knowledge tells that there is a much greater chance of the existence of simple life on a planet than there is of advanced, intelligent life, because complex life takes a lot longer to develop, and is extinguished more easily by random solar system events.
The most significant fact is that we now know that, as Mr Kuhn said, there are billions of earthlike planets in our galaxy. There are billions of galaxy's. Therefore there are billions of billions of earthlike planets in the universe. The implication of this, is that we are definitely not alone. But it could be that intelligent life is typified by octopuses, not technological beings like us. Best guess is that it's a mixture.
So, basically you are proposing that when one uses Drake's equation to estimate the number of extraterrestrial civilizations capable of interstellar communication, one might assume that the term of the equation estimating the number of intelligent living worlds that become technological to be extremely small. That's a reasonable assumption.
Assuming no God, the odds against life arising dwarf the number of planets in the universe -- it's like one person hitting the Powerball a million times in a row. Even if you get life, it's got to take root in a hostile environment and diversify and evolve into a biosphere before you get anything like an octopus, if things even get to that stage. Not a very likely state of affairs.
If Aliens are octopusses, that probably means that we have to wait another milion years or so to communicate with them. Not sure if octopus knows how to operate the radio.
Thank you Mr Khune and Mr Davies for one of the most interesting videocasts about a fascinating subject. I try to do my own research on any subject and alien life forms has brought me to the conclusion that if I were to wager, I’d bet that this planet has been visited by otherworldly beings. That being said, it has been reported that every 6 minutes, a UFO is seen somewhere around our world. What I think must be factored in is our belief in the speed of light as an absolute certainty, and by that I mean in our time, it is impossible to travel faster than the speed of light. What I think is probably coming down the pike is that our physics will have an upgrade and that there will be found a way for traveling beyond the speed of light in a way that we cannot imagine, and this could be by passageways that are there but cannot be accessed yet with our technology, and I mean tunnels of a sort that are a fast track to other solar systems. What I really think will be fascinating is a thorough examination of the Earth’s moon, because I cannot accept the fact that this celestial object which is 400 times smaller than the sun and 400 times closer to the sun than the Earth and therefore gives us a perfect eclipse makes any sense at all. The sheer improbability of the moon happening to be in just the right orbit, the right distance from the Earth, the right size to have perfect eclipse is off-the-charts. That the Earth would turn on its axis every 6 hours without the moon and therefore be devoid of life also makes me think that there may be intelligent life behind its creation in that life on Earth could not exist without the moon. Gentlemen, there are many things that don’t make a lot of sense which is why your discussion is music to my ears, because we are dying to know what’s going on with some of the Earth’s mysteries and especially what life forms exist elsewhere.
The Moon is in orbit around the Earth. It is not 400 times closer to the Sun at any point in time. Otherwise, your inquisitiveness suggests that you are to some degree intelligent.
How tiny are modern micro-chips that contain intelligent information and calculation capability? We are pre-disposed to search exclusively for Aliens we can see with the human eye.
We search because we don't know if it's there or not. However if we look at the odds of intelligent life developing on earth multiplied by each goldilocks incident or great barrier we can see that the odds of life developing in a universe are < (less than) 1 in 1 billion (universes) regardless of drake. Presumably we are in the midst of a series of universes of which an infinitesimally small number develop intelligent life, separated by unfathomable aeons at best.
Hmmm, maybe the reason there’s nothing out there in endless infinite space is because we are meant to look INWARDS to our hearts where is where we have our FEELINGS ...
true. Drake formula fall flat on - the question: Three things have to happen to get intelligent life like a human - 1> A planet and a solar system exactly similar to the earth and the sun, located in the same safe zone in a galaxy.2> Life from non-life. 3> One specie (man) rising above the billions of species with consciousness (to build his science and civilization). >All these chances and probabilities need to come together.
I think it would be great if we could send drones and rovers to other planets and moons and really study for microbial life .. “ if we find that ! ” .. I truly believe there must be intelligent life or at least some kind of life out there such as dinosaurs .. not like us but they once Existed right here on our very own planet.
p.s to my last comment : We need a new, updated 'Drake equation' or better still about 10 of them by different leading astronomers. Because each astronomer's estimate will be 'colored' by their background / culture / outlook (i.e. positive or negative)
Yes. considering how our understanding of the history of life on Earth and the properties of exoplanets have changed, Drake's equation is too general to serve its purpose.
@@ik1408 Your comments / observations are intelligent. Now, I don't mean to be sarcastic or nasty, But with this video, as with so many others, I find that the most sensible / intelligent comments are at the top & as you scroll down they get sillier / dumber. I am genuinely puzzled by this. WHY ?
@@bobrussell3602 I would guess it has something to do with TH-cam algorithms. TH-cam wants its users to be engaged with comments and discussions. To achive that, TH-cam would place more sensible/intelligent comments at the top, encouraging its users to keep reading the comments and, perhaps, to reply. The question is how would TH-cam algorithms distinguish between smart and stupid comments? In my opinion, that can be possible if algorithms trace and analyze all the comments submitted by users. Information analyzed by the algorithms can include data as follows: if those comments get many likes and replies, if the comments encourage replies that seem constructive and not hostile, if there are any words in those comments that the algorithms identify as silly/offensive. Also, the length of sentences and their complexity speak a lot about an author's intelligence. Is it technically possible? Definitely. Google and TH-cam possess almost-AI software and very powerful servers. Now, another question is why would TH-cam want more comments? After all, TH-cam makes money on views of the videos, not reading comments. The reason behind might be more serious and far-reaching - it might be profiling users. If one brings together all the information about a person's internet searches, purchases and thoughts expressed in comments (which people mistakenly believe are anonymous) - that gives someone in-depth knowledge and profile of the person, or billions of persons. Knowledge is power; and control also comes with power.
@@ik1408 Thanks for enlightening me, I've wondered about it for ages. I'm flattered that the algorithms perceive me (& you) as intelligent. I strongly agree with you that 'knowledge is power.
There are millions of earth like planets and if there is at least 1 or 2 intelligent alien civilization, maybe millions of years older than humans , and if still they have not discovered technologies like warp drive or wormhole, then it us very shocking..maybe no one is there
Isn’t it kinda dumb to think they haven’t already found us - to be hostile and primitive. What if we were somehow seeded by them in the first place? They would already know more about us than we can imagine. Would we have a word for that?
@@suatustel746 “Dictate rules”? Scientifically speaking, these “rules” proven effective, sociologically, and without “gods” interference. A cogent roadmap for behavior and perspective might be another way to phrase that, god or aliens. Religion has, perhaps in a crude way, shown us the way forward, in a way we can understand. Yet like teenagers, we often reject what we are told and have to find out for ourselves. Possibly a lesson better learned, but progress is slow. Trying to civilize us, helping us evolve.
We are searching for intelligent aliens outside the earth, because we believe all the aliens on this earth (the overwhelming majority) are stupid. As if we don't have eough problems here to solve!
What good would it do to find aliens anyways? Just more spinning of all our wheels. In other words going in circles endlessly. Maybe the black hole is a reflection of our empty space the needs to be filled with love. Seems like a waist to search for alien life in the universe because each one of us is a sun star giant full of trillions of cells that sells itself to itself in order to find itself.
I think it is, highly likely their is, other, life forms somewhere, in the universe, it merely a, case, of the vast distances, involved, contact will happen but when that's, the, real question.
I think we are naive to beam our location to some aliens, who could turn out to be malevolent and more violent than us, we will be finished. We could all end up in an alien zoo, survive in captivity .
The push for other intelligence is made by the rich and powerful. They want you to work, destroy, and make them more money never looking back, hoping for a eternity after. While the savior picks up the mess. Don't fall for it we are the gods of the universe.
People don’t actually search for aliens, humans will never get to the stars. This is a tour of the galaxy. Well on the left we have a rock that we call Moon, And over there is sun and mars is straight ahead. Well that’s the end of the tour. Sorry No aliens.
Because we are naive a.k.a. utterly stupid and disinformed. The earth is in the center of the universe. Yeah, i know, it sounds outrageous, but it's true (100 %). I spent few years meticulously investigating this issue, and i know very well what i am talking about. So, if the earth is in the center of the universe you can forget about aliens once and for all. After all, have you ever heard about Fermi paradox?
"If the Earth were at the center of the universe, the attraction of the surrounding mass of stars would also produce redshifts wherever we looked! [This] theory seems quite consistent with our astronomical observations" - *Paul Davies* in Nature "I can construct you a spherically symmetrical universe with Earth at its center, and you cannot disprove it[...] A lot of cosmology tries to hide that." - *George Ellis* in Scientific American "The new results are either telling us that all of science is wrong and we're the center of the universe, or maybe the data is simply incorrect" - *Lawrence Krauss* 2006 "[Without Dark Energy, Earth must be] literally at the center of the universe, which is, to say the least, unusual" - *Lawrence Krauss* 2009 "I don't think [CMB maps] don't point toward a geocentric universe" - *Max Tegmarck* 2011 "[R]ed shift in the spectra of quasars leads to yet another paradoxical result: namely, that the Earth is the center of the Universe." - *Y.P. Varshni* in Astrophysics and Space Science "Earth is indeed the center of the universe." - *Y.P. Varshni* in Astrophysics and Space Science "If the universe possesses a center, we must be very close to it" - Joseph Silk in The Big Bang: The Creation and Evolution of the Universe "The uniform distribution of [gamma-ray] burst arrival directions tells us that the distribution of gamma-ray-burst sources in space is a sphere or spherical shell, with us at the center" - *Jonathan Katz* in The Biggest Bangs: The Mystery of Gamma-Ray Bursts, the Most Violent Explosions in the Universe "To date, there has been no general way of determining [that] we live at a typical position in the Universe" - *Chris Clarkson* et al. in Physical Review Letters in 2008 "[Redshifts] would imply that we occupy a unique position in the universe, analogous, in a sense, to the ancient conception of a central Earth[...] This hypothesis cannot be disproved" - *Edwin Hubble* in The Observational Approach to Cosmology " [A]ll this evidence that the universe looks the same whichever direction we look in might seem to suggest there is something special about our place in the universe. In particular, it might seem that if we observe all other galaxies to be moving away from us, then we must be at the center of the universe[...] We [reject] it only on grounds of modesty" - *Stephen Hawking* in A Brief History of Time "If one rotates the shell relative to the fixed stars about an axis going through its center, a Coriolis force arises in the interior of the shell, that is, the plane of a Foucault pendulum is dragged around*" - *Albert Einstein* cited in "Gravitation", *Misner Thorne and Wheeler* pp. 544-545. "...Thus we may return to Ptolemy's point of view of a 'motionless earth'...One has to show that the transformed metric can be regarded as produced according to Einstein's field equations, by distant rotating masses. This has been done by *Thirring.* He calculated a field due to a rotating, hollow, thick-walled sphere and proved that inside the cavity it behaved as though there were centrifugal and other inertial forces usually attributed to absolute space. Thus from Einstein's point of view, *Ptolemy* and *Corpenicus* are equally right." - *Max Born* "Einstein's Theory of Relativity", Dover Publications, 1962, pp 344 & 345. "[W]e have[...] certainty regarding the stability of the Earth, situated in the center, and the motion of the sun around the Earth." - *Galileo Galilei* in letter to Francesco Rinuccini, March 29th, 1641
In 1921, *Einstein* wrote to a friend that *if "the Miller experiments" produced positive results *"the whole relativity theory collapses like a house of cards."* *Miller's experiments produced consistently positive results.* “Michelson and Morley *found shifts* in the interference fringes, but *they were very much smaller* than the size of the effect expected from the known orbital motion of the Earth” Physicist, *John D. Norton* “We can’t feel our motion through space, *nor has any physical experiment ever proved that the Earth actually is in motion.”* Historian, *Lincoln Barnett,* foreword by *Albert Einstein* “Since the time of Copernicus we have known that the Earth rotates on its axis and moves around the sun. Even this simple idea, so clear to everyone, was not left untouched by the advance of science.” *Albert Einstein* “Briefly, everything occurs as if the Earth were at rest…” Physicist, *Henrick Lorentz* “A great deal of research has been carried out concerning the influence of the Earth’s movement. The results were always negative.” Physicist, *Henri Poincaré* “There is no planetary observation by which we on Earth can prove that the Earth is moving in an orbit around the sun.” Physicist, *I. Bernard Cohen* “The failure of the many attempts to measure terrestrially any effects of the earth’s motion…” Physicist, *Wolfgang Pauli* “In the effort to explain the Michelson-Morley experiment…the thought was advanced that the Earth might be stationary….Such an idea was not considered seriously, since it would mean in effect that our Earth occupied the omnipotent position in the universe, with all the other heavenly bodies paying homage by revolving around it.” Physicist, *Arthur S. Otis* “….The easiest explanation was that the earth was fixed in the ether and that everything else in the universe moved with respect to the earth and the ether…” Physicist, *James Coleman* “This ‘null’ result was one of the great puzzles of physics at the end of the nineteenth century. One possibility was that...v would be zero and no fringe shift would be expected. But this implies that the earth is somehow a preferred object; only with respect to the earth would the speed of light be c as predicted by Maxwell’s equations. This is tantamount to assuming that the earth is the central body of the universe.” Physicist, *Douglas C. Giancoli* "I have read with much interest Messsrs. Michelson and Morley's wonderfully delicate experiment attempting to decide the important question as to how far the ether is carried along by the earth...I would suggest that almost the only hypothesis that can reconcile this opposition is thet the length of material bodies changes..." *George Fitzgerald* "...Again, once more for the record : it has been shown at least six different ways this century alone that the equations and physics used by NASA to launch satellites are identical to the equations derived from a geocentric universe. Thus, if the space program is proof of anything, it proves geocentricity and disproves heliocentrism." *Astronomer, Dr. Bouw* "I have to confess that I was bothered by the fact that the Axis of Evil seemed linked to a special direction in our solar system...But now we have completely independent data...This is a hint of something really big." *Astrophysicist, Max Tegmark* "Why is the solar system cosmically aligned?" *Astrophysicist, Dragan Huterer* "The apparent alignment in the cosmic microwave background in one particular direction through space is called "evil" because it undermines our ideas about the standard cosmological model...the Copernican Principle seems to be in jeopardy." *Astrophysicist, Ashok K. Singal* "One of the most surprising findings is that the fluctuations in the cosmic microwave radiation temperatures at large angular scales do not match those predicted by the standard (Big Bang) model." *The European Space Agency, Planck Probe, 2013*
“So which is real, the Ptolemaic or Copernican system? Although it is not uncommon for people to say that Copernicus proved Ptolemy wrong, that is not true….one can use either picture as a model of the universe, for our observations of the heavens can be explained by assuming either the earth or the sun to be at rest.” Physicist, *Stephen Hawking* “…the Earth-centered system…is in reality absolutely identical with the system of Copernicus and all computation of the places of the planets are the same for the two systems.” Astronomer, *J. L. E. Dryer* “…it is very important to acknowledge that the Copernican theory offers a very exact calculation of the apparent movements of the planets…even though it must be conceded that, from the modern standpoint practically identical results could be obtained by means of a somewhat revised Ptolemaic system….It makes no sense, accordingly, to speak of a difference in truth between Copernicus and Ptolemy: both conceptions are equally permissible descriptions. What has been considered as the greatest discovery of occidental wisdom, as opposed to that of antiquity, is questioned as to its truth value.” Physicist, *Hans Reichenbach* “…I tell my classes that had Galileo confronted the Church in Einstein’s day, he would have lost the argument for better reasons. You may use my name if you wish.” Mathematician, *Carl E. Wulfman* “There is no planetary observation by which we on Earth can prove that the Earth is moving in an orbit around the sun. Thus all Galileo’s discoveries with the telescope can be accommodated to the system invented by Tycho Brahe just before Galileo began his observations of the heavens. In this Tychonic system, the planets…move in orbits around the sun, while the sun moves in an orbit around the Earth in a year. Furthermore, the daily rotation of the heavens is communicated to the sun and planets, so that the Earth itself neither rotates nor revolves in an orbit.” Physicist, *I Bernard Cohen* “Tycho Brahe proposed a dualistic scheme, with the Sun going around the Earth but with all other planets going around the Sun, and in making this proposal he thought he was offering something radically different from Copernicus. And in rejecting Tycho’s scheme, Kepler obviously thought so too. Yet in principle there is no difference.” Astronomer, *Fred Hoyle* Over the last decade, a number of anomalous cosmological observations have emerged which do not make sense according to the Copernican Principle, the latest being the Planck satellite results of March 2013. While the science behind the findings is complex, to put it simply, the Copernican Principle requires that any variation in the radiation from the Cosmic Microwave Background (thermal radiation assumed to be left over from the ‘Big Bang’) be more or less randomly distributed throughout the universe. However, the results of three separate missions, starting with the WMAP satellite in 2001, has shown anomalies in the background radiation which are aligned directly with the plane of our solar system and the equator of the Earth. This never-before-seen alignment of the Earth results in an axis through the universe, which scientists have dubbed the ‘Axis of Evil’, owing to the shocking implications for current models of the cosmos. *Laurence Krauss,* American theoretical physicist and cosmologist, commented in 2005: "When you look at [the cosmic microwave background] map, you also see that the structure that is observed, is in fact, in a weird way, correlated with the plane of the earth around the sun. Is this Copernicus coming back to haunt us? That’s crazy. We’re looking out at the whole universe. There’s no way there should be a correlation of structure with our motion of the earth around the sun?-?the plane of the earth around the sun?-?the ecliptic. That would say we are truly the center of the universe." “Thus, even now, three and a half centuries after Galileo’s condemnation by the Inquisition, it is still remarkably difficult to say categorically whether the earth moves...” Physicist, *Julian Barbour*
“What happened when the experiment was done in 1887? There was never, never, in any orientation at any time of year, any shift in the interference pattern; none; no shift; no fringe shift; nothing. What’s the implication? Here was an experiment that was done to measure the speed of the earth’s motion through the ether. This was an experiment that was ten times more sensitive than it needed to be. It could have detected speeds as low as two miles a second instead of the known 20mps that the earth as in its orbital motion around the sun. It didn’t detect it. What’s the conclusion from the Michelson-Morley experiment? The implication is that the earth is not moving…” Physicist, *Richard Wolfson* *Fred Hoyle* has argued that a subtler understanding of Einstein’s theories reveals they may actually *slightly favor an Earth-centered model.* Had Galileo had Hoyle at his elbow, he might have produced the book that would have pleased the pope and not have been tried for heresy!….There is another criterion by which theories are judged, and, for better or worse, it shows that modern scientists do have a certain kinship with those recalcitrant seventeenth-century scholars they so disdain. When new theories and the implications of new discoveries disagree with the way a scientist personally feels the universe ought to run, he or she is reluctant to accept them.” *Kitty Ferguson,* science writer How about that? It hurts, doesn't it? Yeah, i know, now, if you are a real masochist, then dare to watch this video : th-cam.com/video/peOVH5j-h2E/w-d-xo.html
We are probing in the dark with misses ad it's too early to conclude.furher these distances are against us.on the surface there is no reason not to have other superior ad or inferior beings compared to humans or the kind of life we have is an accident that has not replicated elsewhere.its also possible we are not searching correctly. Maybe we are deluded with the god thing in order to feel special
Well, there is a much better chance of finding life on other worlds than finding any god. And thats not even guaranteed. Especially if life is only in one of every billion solar systems.
@@scabw Sounds like a personality problem. You need a personal hell and damnation spirit guide. Someone too tell you right from wrong. Even if its a totally messed up moral theology. Too offer you a carrot (redemption by gods grace)and a stick (a separation from god). Like you are not adult enough too figure it out on your own. Which says more about you than it does your god.
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Aliens land tomorrow. "Take me to your leader"
" Ummm, errr..... have you got any other planets on your schedule you can do first and come back later?. We didn't know you were coming and the house is a bit of a mess".
“Two possibilities exist: either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.”― Arthur C. Clarke
@Andreaz-64 Tens of billions of species have existed on Earth, but fewer than ten that we know could build a campfire. I think that Clarke meant intelligent, technological species for "we". However, "we" have only ever decided that it is immoral to kill, eat and make handbags out of "us".
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@Andreaz-64 I heard that a goldfish passed the mirror test, where it recognized its own reflection as itself. We may find intelligent octopus like creatures below the ice of Ceres or Enceladus. Let's hope they won't taste like chicken.
Could we consider aliens intelligent if they would have chosen to contact us while being aware of humankind's past and present state of affairs?
They sussed out when they captured Voyager1 plaque littered with flagrant lies... Supposedly reflecting what a human life like on Earth...
There's no need to search for beings more advanced than ourselves. They're already here and always have been. They're just smart enough to keep their existence from the public until we're ready for that knowledge.
How do aliens exclude creation? A creator could have created life in other places in the universe. Finding aliens will not disprove creation.
Well, we have found some alien looking creatures in Washington D. C., however, none are intelligent.
But they do play hop scotch.
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CTT: Why Do We Search for Intelligent Aliens?
Me: Because we cant find any intelligent life form here on earth!
The last thing I’d want to find is people like ourselves because if we do then god help us.
I'd just like to say to our future Alien Overlords, I love you, and thanks!
I'm skeptical about radio signals, as a long lasting indicator of technological intelligence. Techno-signatures, e.g. regarding the atmosphere of a planet, or the star, maybe a more reliable way to go.
yes. Which why I'm confident that if the James Web Telescope launches this october by the end of this year the every news paper's headline will be about candidate worlds.
As a practical matter, I think it would make more sense to simply search for other life in the universe. A planet without life obviously won't have intelligence life. We now know that any planet that has life and an atmosphere, will have an atmosphere that's in a recognizable type of disequilibrium that life causes. All we have to detect is that disequilibrium.
We have learned much about early conditions in our solar system, and how planets of various types form, and about the many solar system catastrophes that threaten life. This knowledge tells that there is a much greater chance of the existence of simple life on a planet than there is of advanced, intelligent life, because complex life takes a lot longer to develop, and is extinguished more easily by random solar system events.
The most significant fact is that we now know that, as Mr Kuhn said, there are billions of earthlike planets in our galaxy. There are billions of galaxy's. Therefore there are billions of billions of earthlike planets in the universe. The implication of this, is that we are definitely not alone. But it could be that intelligent life is typified by octopuses, not technological beings like us. Best guess is that it's a mixture.
So, basically you are proposing that when one uses Drake's equation to estimate the number of extraterrestrial civilizations capable of interstellar communication, one might assume that the term of the equation estimating the number of intelligent living worlds that become technological to be extremely small. That's a reasonable assumption.
Assuming no God, the odds against life arising dwarf the number of planets in the universe -- it's like one person hitting the Powerball a million times in a row. Even if you get life, it's got to take root in a hostile environment and diversify and evolve into a biosphere before you get anything like an octopus, if things even get to that stage. Not a very likely state of affairs.
If Aliens are octopusses, that probably means that we have to wait another milion years or so to communicate with them.
Not sure if octopus knows how to operate the radio.
It's very simple if life is here it's out there we're not that special
Thank you Mr Khune and Mr Davies for one of the most interesting videocasts about a fascinating subject. I try to do my own research on any subject and alien life forms has brought me to the conclusion that if I were to wager, I’d bet that this planet has been visited by otherworldly beings. That being said, it has been reported that every 6 minutes, a UFO is seen somewhere around our world. What I think must be factored in is our belief in the speed of light as an absolute certainty, and by that I mean in our time, it is impossible to travel faster than the speed of light. What I think is probably coming down the pike is that our physics will have an upgrade and that there will be found a way for traveling beyond the speed of light in a way that we cannot imagine, and this could be by passageways that are there but cannot be accessed yet with our technology, and I mean tunnels of a sort that are a fast track to other solar systems. What I really think will be fascinating is a thorough examination of the Earth’s moon, because I cannot accept the fact that this celestial object which is 400 times smaller than the sun and 400 times closer to the sun than the Earth and therefore gives us a perfect eclipse makes any sense at all. The sheer improbability of the moon happening to be in just the right orbit, the right distance from the Earth, the right size to have perfect eclipse is off-the-charts. That the Earth would turn on its axis every 6 hours without the moon and therefore be devoid of life also makes me think that there may be intelligent life behind its creation in that life on Earth could not exist without the moon. Gentlemen, there are many things that don’t make a lot of sense which is why your discussion is music to my ears, because we are dying to know what’s going on with some of the Earth’s mysteries and especially what life forms exist elsewhere.
The Moon is in orbit around the Earth. It is not 400 times closer to the Sun at any point in time.
Otherwise, your inquisitiveness suggests that you are to some degree intelligent.
How tiny are modern micro-chips that contain intelligent information and calculation capability? We are pre-disposed to search exclusively for Aliens we can see with the human eye.
We dont even have a good definition of "life".
Hopefully we will know more soon.
Finding a nearby civilization would be interesting wouldn't it. If you could get a steady two way communicatiin running how would that benefit both?
Any book recommendations by Davies on this theme?
Maybe the FEELINGS is in fact the alienated life force we are in search of.
We search because we don't know if it's there or not. However if we look at the odds of intelligent life developing on earth multiplied by each goldilocks incident or great barrier we can see that the odds of life developing in a universe are < (less than) 1 in 1 billion (universes) regardless of drake. Presumably we are in the midst of a series of universes of which an infinitesimally small number develop intelligent life, separated by unfathomable aeons at best.
Hmmm, maybe the reason there’s nothing out there in endless infinite space is because we are meant to look INWARDS to our hearts where is where we have our FEELINGS ...
My goodness, they are already here. I saw my first UFO afternoon Monday 7th in December 2020.
"We don't need other worlds. We need mirrors."
Any love for Solaris?
The drake equation, despite one or two inputs being better known, is a waste of time almost by definition.
true. Drake formula fall flat on - the question: Three things have to happen to get intelligent life like a human - 1> A planet and a solar system exactly similar to the earth and the sun, located in the same safe zone in a galaxy.2> Life from non-life. 3> One specie (man) rising above the billions of species with consciousness (to build his science and civilization). >All these chances and probabilities need to come together.
Looking at the vastness in the night sky... To think we are alone is pretty nieve... They are probably so advanced we can't detect them
I think it would be great if we could send drones and rovers to other planets and moons and really study for microbial life .. “ if we find that ! ” .. I truly believe there must be intelligent life or at least some kind of life out there such as dinosaurs .. not like us but they once Existed right here on our very own planet.
Why don't we create inteligent life instead of searching for it?
We are trying.
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I don’t have to search for aliens - they search for me and they find me wherever I go - true story
I am an artist. An avid one.
I want to paint countless little pictures of their heads on green tinted little rectangular pieces of paper.
Wouldn't planets like Mercury be considered "Earth-like"?
NOT even close ...No air / water , ECT ...
Why does the camera person keep panning there is so much it makes me feel sick watching
p.s to my last comment : We need a new, updated 'Drake equation' or better still about 10 of them by different leading astronomers. Because each astronomer's estimate will be 'colored' by their background / culture / outlook (i.e. positive or negative)
Yes. considering how our understanding of the history of life on Earth and the properties of exoplanets have changed, Drake's equation is too general to serve its purpose.
@@ik1408 Your comments / observations are intelligent. Now, I don't mean to be sarcastic or nasty, But with this video, as with so many others, I find that the most sensible / intelligent comments are at the top & as you scroll down they get sillier / dumber. I am genuinely puzzled by this. WHY ?
@@bobrussell3602 I would guess it has something to do with TH-cam algorithms. TH-cam wants its users to be engaged with comments and discussions. To achive that, TH-cam would place more sensible/intelligent comments at the top, encouraging its users to keep reading the comments and, perhaps, to reply.
The question is how would TH-cam algorithms distinguish between smart and stupid comments? In my opinion, that can be possible if algorithms trace and analyze all the comments submitted by users. Information analyzed by the algorithms can include data as follows: if those comments get many likes and replies, if the comments encourage replies that seem constructive and not hostile, if there are any words in those comments that the algorithms identify as silly/offensive. Also, the length of sentences and their complexity speak a lot about an author's intelligence.
Is it technically possible? Definitely. Google and TH-cam possess almost-AI software and very powerful servers.
Now, another question is why would TH-cam want more comments? After all, TH-cam makes money on views of the videos, not reading comments. The reason behind might be more serious and far-reaching - it might be profiling users. If one brings together all the information about a person's internet searches, purchases and thoughts expressed in comments (which people mistakenly believe are anonymous) - that gives someone in-depth knowledge and profile of the person, or billions of persons. Knowledge is power; and control also comes with power.
@@ik1408 Thanks for enlightening me, I've wondered about it for ages. I'm flattered that the algorithms perceive me (& you) as intelligent. I strongly agree with you that 'knowledge is power.
@@bobrussell3602 You are welcome.
Cause we want to compare our smarts? Maybe take their stuff?
To reverse engineer advanced technology, and past it off as our own.
There are millions of earth like planets and if there is at least 1 or 2 intelligent alien civilization, maybe millions of years older than humans , and if still they have not discovered technologies like warp drive or wormhole, then it us very shocking..maybe no one is there
Or maybe they just don’t want anything to do with us.
Lots of wishful thinking there, Paul .
Isn’t it kinda dumb to think they haven’t already found us - to be hostile and primitive. What if we were somehow seeded by them in the first place? They would already know more about us than we can imagine. Would we have a word for that?
If they wanna keep in hold us as primitive life forms then they dictate religion impose on us
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“Dictate rules”? Scientifically speaking, these “rules” proven effective, sociologically, and without “gods” interference.
A cogent roadmap for behavior and perspective might be another way to phrase that, god or aliens. Religion has, perhaps in a crude way, shown us the way forward, in a way we can understand. Yet like teenagers, we often reject what we are told and have to find out for ourselves. Possibly a lesson better learned, but progress is slow.
Trying to civilize us, helping us evolve.
First comment- Love Alien discussions keep up the amazing work Robert!!!!
All inteligent beings are allready here on earth.
What about dumb aliens
Why do we search for intelligent aliens??? That’s easy, because there’re better at hiding and the stupid ones just too easy to find
We are searching for intelligent aliens outside the earth, because we believe all the aliens on this earth (the overwhelming majority) are stupid. As if we don't have eough problems here to solve!
lol here here!
What good would it do to find aliens anyways? Just more spinning of all our wheels. In other words going in circles endlessly. Maybe the black hole is a reflection of our empty space the needs to be filled with love. Seems like a waist to search for alien life in the universe because each one of us is a sun star giant full of trillions of cells that sells itself to itself in order to find itself.
I think it is, highly likely their is, other, life forms somewhere, in the universe, it merely a, case, of the vast distances, involved, contact will happen but when that's, the, real question.
From my eyes the ONLY INTELLIGENT life would be hunter / gathers.
Good luck finding them .
Is immortality possible in reality?bcoz some
scientists successfuly achieved reverse
aging.like in Israel's latest research..
Because we KNOW there isn't any intelligent life on earth.
I think we are naive to beam our location to some aliens, who could turn out to be malevolent and more violent than us, we will be finished. We could all end up in an alien zoo, survive in captivity .
Well in this case we deserved to be wiped out
We already found them in 1947.
The push for other intelligence is made by the rich and powerful. They want you to work, destroy, and make them more money never looking back, hoping for a eternity after. While the savior picks up the mess. Don't fall for it we are the gods of the universe.
We search for intelligent aliens because the dumb ones are easy to find.
Universe has unity of free will from God, finding intelligent aliens would help to resolve.
Because we have watched too much Star Wars 🤣
Because we are stupid.
Why? Cuz we r stupid and dumb , on the edge of extinction.😂🤣
The planet has become a vast insane asylum run by the inmates following the yellow brick road looking for the wizard of OZ.
981 movie 'Escape from New york' all the undesirables banished to this planet
Because Mr. Kuhn have seen to many science fiction movies.
To eat.
People don’t actually search for aliens, humans will never get to the stars.
This is a tour of the galaxy. Well on the left we have a rock that we call Moon, And over there is sun and mars is straight ahead.
Well that’s the end of the tour.
Sorry No aliens.
im a scientist i dont like miracles
😂
We can't even find intelligent humans on Earth why bother trying to find an alien intelligence from another planet
Because we are naive a.k.a. utterly stupid and disinformed. The earth is in the center of the universe. Yeah, i know, it sounds outrageous, but it's true (100 %). I spent few years meticulously investigating this issue, and i know very well what i am talking about. So, if the earth is in the center of the universe you can forget about aliens once and for all. After all, have you ever heard about Fermi paradox?
"If the Earth were at the center of the universe, the attraction of the surrounding mass of stars would also produce redshifts wherever we looked! [This] theory seems quite consistent with our astronomical observations" - *Paul Davies* in Nature
"I can construct you a spherically symmetrical universe with Earth at its center, and you cannot disprove it[...] A lot of cosmology tries to hide that." - *George Ellis* in Scientific American
"The new results are either telling us that all of science is wrong and we're the center of the universe, or maybe the data is simply incorrect" - *Lawrence Krauss* 2006
"[Without Dark Energy, Earth must be] literally at the center of the universe, which is, to say the least, unusual" - *Lawrence Krauss* 2009
"I don't think [CMB maps] don't point toward a geocentric universe" - *Max Tegmarck* 2011
"[R]ed shift in the spectra of quasars leads to yet another paradoxical result: namely, that the Earth is the center of the Universe." - *Y.P. Varshni* in Astrophysics and Space Science
"Earth is indeed the center of the universe." - *Y.P. Varshni* in Astrophysics and Space Science
"If the universe possesses a center, we must be very close to it" - Joseph Silk in The Big Bang: The Creation and Evolution of the Universe "The uniform distribution of [gamma-ray] burst arrival directions tells us that the distribution of gamma-ray-burst sources in space is a sphere or spherical shell, with us at the center" - *Jonathan Katz* in The Biggest Bangs: The Mystery of Gamma-Ray Bursts, the Most Violent Explosions in the Universe
"To date, there has been no general way of determining [that] we live at a typical position in the Universe" - *Chris Clarkson* et al. in Physical Review Letters in 2008
"[Redshifts] would imply that we occupy a unique position in the universe, analogous, in a sense, to the ancient conception of a central Earth[...] This hypothesis cannot be disproved" - *Edwin Hubble* in The Observational Approach to Cosmology "
[A]ll this evidence that the universe looks the same whichever direction we look in might seem to suggest there is something special about our place in the universe. In particular, it might seem that if we observe all other galaxies to be moving away from us, then we must be at the center of the universe[...] We [reject] it only on grounds of modesty" - *Stephen Hawking* in A Brief History of Time
"If one rotates the shell relative to the fixed stars about an axis going through its center, a Coriolis force arises in the interior of the shell, that is, the plane of a Foucault pendulum is dragged around*" - *Albert Einstein* cited in "Gravitation", *Misner Thorne and Wheeler* pp. 544-545.
"...Thus we may return to Ptolemy's point of view of a 'motionless earth'...One has to show that the transformed metric can be regarded as produced according to Einstein's field equations, by distant rotating masses. This has been done by *Thirring.* He calculated a field due to a rotating, hollow, thick-walled sphere and proved that inside the cavity it behaved as though there were centrifugal and other inertial forces usually attributed to absolute space. Thus from Einstein's point of view, *Ptolemy* and *Corpenicus* are equally right." - *Max Born* "Einstein's Theory of Relativity", Dover Publications, 1962, pp 344 & 345.
"[W]e have[...] certainty regarding the stability of the Earth, situated in the center, and the motion of the sun around the Earth." - *Galileo Galilei* in letter to Francesco Rinuccini, March 29th, 1641
In 1921, *Einstein* wrote to a friend that *if "the Miller experiments" produced positive results *"the whole relativity theory collapses like a house of cards."*
*Miller's experiments produced consistently positive results.*
“Michelson and Morley *found shifts* in the interference fringes, but *they were very much smaller* than the size of the effect expected from the known orbital motion of the Earth” Physicist, *John D. Norton*
“We can’t feel our motion through space, *nor has any physical experiment ever proved that the Earth actually is in motion.”* Historian, *Lincoln Barnett,* foreword by *Albert Einstein*
“Since the time of Copernicus we have known that the Earth rotates on its axis and moves around the sun. Even this simple idea, so clear to everyone, was not left untouched by the advance of science.” *Albert Einstein*
“Briefly, everything occurs as if the Earth were at rest…” Physicist, *Henrick Lorentz*
“A great deal of research has been carried out concerning the influence of the Earth’s movement. The results were always negative.” Physicist, *Henri Poincaré*
“There is no planetary observation by which we on Earth can prove that the Earth is moving in an orbit around the sun.” Physicist, *I. Bernard Cohen*
“The failure of the many attempts to measure terrestrially any effects of the earth’s motion…” Physicist, *Wolfgang Pauli*
“In the effort to explain the Michelson-Morley experiment…the thought was advanced that the Earth might be stationary….Such an idea was not considered seriously, since it would mean in effect that our Earth occupied the omnipotent position in the universe, with all the other heavenly bodies paying homage by revolving around it.” Physicist, *Arthur S. Otis*
“….The easiest explanation was that the earth was fixed in the ether and that everything else in the universe moved with respect to the earth and the ether…” Physicist, *James Coleman*
“This ‘null’ result was one of the great puzzles of physics at the end of the nineteenth century. One possibility was that...v would be zero and no fringe shift would be expected. But this implies that the earth is somehow a preferred object; only with respect to the earth would the speed of light be c as predicted by Maxwell’s equations. This is tantamount to assuming that the earth is the central body of the universe.” Physicist, *Douglas C. Giancoli*
"I have read with much interest Messsrs. Michelson and Morley's wonderfully delicate experiment attempting to decide the important question as to how far the ether is carried along by the earth...I would suggest that almost the only hypothesis that can reconcile this opposition is thet the length of material bodies changes..." *George Fitzgerald*
"...Again, once more for the record : it has been shown at least six different ways this century alone that the equations and physics used by NASA to launch satellites are identical to the equations derived from a geocentric universe. Thus, if the space program is proof of anything, it proves geocentricity and disproves heliocentrism." *Astronomer, Dr. Bouw*
"I have to confess that I was bothered by the fact that the Axis of Evil seemed linked to a special direction in our solar system...But now we have completely independent data...This is a hint of something really big." *Astrophysicist, Max Tegmark*
"Why is the solar system cosmically aligned?" *Astrophysicist, Dragan Huterer*
"The apparent alignment in the cosmic microwave background in one particular direction through space is called "evil" because it undermines our ideas about the standard cosmological model...the Copernican Principle seems to be in jeopardy." *Astrophysicist, Ashok K. Singal*
"One of the most surprising findings is that the fluctuations in the cosmic microwave radiation temperatures at large angular scales do not match those predicted by the standard (Big Bang) model."
*The European Space Agency, Planck Probe, 2013*
“So which is real, the Ptolemaic or Copernican system? Although it is not uncommon for people to say that Copernicus proved Ptolemy wrong, that is not true….one can use either picture as a model of the universe, for our observations of the heavens can be explained by assuming either the earth or the sun to be at rest.” Physicist, *Stephen Hawking*
“…the Earth-centered system…is in reality absolutely identical with the system of Copernicus and all computation of the places of the planets are the same for the two systems.” Astronomer, *J. L. E. Dryer*
“…it is very important to acknowledge that the Copernican theory offers a very exact calculation of the apparent movements of the planets…even though it must be conceded that, from the modern standpoint practically identical results could be obtained by means of a somewhat revised Ptolemaic system….It makes no sense, accordingly, to speak of a difference in truth between Copernicus and Ptolemy: both conceptions are equally permissible descriptions. What has been considered as the greatest discovery of occidental wisdom, as opposed to that of antiquity, is questioned as to its truth value.” Physicist, *Hans Reichenbach*
“…I tell my classes that had Galileo confronted the Church in Einstein’s day, he would have lost the argument for better reasons. You may use my name if you wish.” Mathematician, *Carl E. Wulfman*
“There is no planetary observation by which we on Earth can prove that the Earth is moving in an orbit around the sun. Thus all Galileo’s discoveries with the telescope can be accommodated to the system invented by Tycho Brahe just before Galileo began his observations of the heavens. In this Tychonic system, the planets…move in orbits around the sun, while the sun moves in an orbit around the Earth in a year. Furthermore, the daily rotation of the heavens is communicated to the sun and planets, so that the Earth itself neither rotates nor revolves in an orbit.” Physicist, *I Bernard Cohen*
“Tycho Brahe proposed a dualistic scheme, with the Sun going around the Earth but with all other planets going around the Sun, and in making this proposal he thought he was offering something radically different from Copernicus. And in rejecting Tycho’s scheme, Kepler obviously thought so too. Yet in principle there is no difference.” Astronomer, *Fred Hoyle*
Over the last decade, a number of anomalous cosmological observations have emerged which do not make sense according to the Copernican Principle, the latest being the Planck satellite results of March 2013. While the science behind the findings is complex, to put it simply, the Copernican Principle requires that any variation in the radiation from the Cosmic Microwave Background (thermal radiation assumed to be left over from the ‘Big Bang’) be more or less randomly distributed throughout the universe. However, the results of three separate missions, starting with the WMAP satellite in 2001, has shown anomalies in the background radiation which are aligned directly with the plane of our solar system and the equator of the Earth. This never-before-seen alignment of the Earth results in an axis through the universe, which scientists have dubbed the ‘Axis of Evil’, owing to the shocking implications for current models of the cosmos.
*Laurence Krauss,* American theoretical physicist and cosmologist, commented in 2005:
"When you look at [the cosmic microwave background] map, you also see that the structure that is observed, is in fact, in a weird way, correlated with the plane of the earth around the sun. Is this Copernicus coming back to haunt us? That’s crazy. We’re looking out at the whole universe. There’s no way there should be a correlation of structure with our motion of the earth around the sun?-?the plane of the earth around the sun?-?the ecliptic. That would say we are truly the center of the universe."
“Thus, even now, three and a half centuries after Galileo’s condemnation by the Inquisition, it is still remarkably difficult to say categorically whether the earth moves...” Physicist, *Julian Barbour*
“What happened when the experiment was done in 1887? There was never, never, in any orientation at any time of year, any shift in the interference pattern; none; no shift; no fringe shift; nothing. What’s the implication? Here was an experiment that was done to measure the speed of the earth’s motion through the ether. This was an experiment that was ten times more sensitive than it needed to be. It could have detected speeds as low as two miles a second instead of the known 20mps that the earth as in its orbital motion around the sun. It didn’t detect it. What’s the conclusion from the Michelson-Morley experiment? The implication is that the earth is not moving…” Physicist, *Richard Wolfson*
*Fred Hoyle* has argued that a subtler understanding of Einstein’s theories reveals they may actually *slightly favor an Earth-centered model.* Had Galileo had Hoyle at his elbow, he might have produced the book that would have pleased the pope and not have been tried for heresy!….There is another criterion by which theories are judged, and, for better or worse, it shows that modern scientists do have a certain kinship with those recalcitrant seventeenth-century scholars they so disdain. When new theories and the implications of new discoveries disagree with the way a scientist personally feels the universe ought to run, he or she is reluctant to accept them.” *Kitty Ferguson,* science writer
How about that?
It hurts, doesn't it?
Yeah, i know, now, if you are a real masochist, then dare to watch this video : th-cam.com/video/peOVH5j-h2E/w-d-xo.html
We are probing in the dark with misses ad it's too early to conclude.furher these distances are against us.on the surface there is no reason not to have other superior ad or inferior beings compared to humans or the kind of life we have is an accident that has not replicated elsewhere.its also possible we are not searching correctly. Maybe we are deluded with the god thing in order to feel special
Well, there is a much better chance of finding life on other worlds than finding any god. And thats not even guaranteed. Especially if life is only in one of every billion solar systems.
Just because you don't feel a connection to God, doesn't mean we all feel the same.
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So which god do you follow !
The angry obey or die god of the old testament. Or the wishy-washy believe in me Jesus.
@@thomasridley8675 I feel a connection to the ground of all being. I also feel drawn to Christ Jesus.
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Sounds like a personality problem.
You need a personal hell and damnation spirit guide. Someone too tell you right from wrong. Even if its a totally messed up moral theology. Too offer you a carrot (redemption by gods grace)and a stick (a separation from god). Like you are not adult enough too figure it out on your own. Which says more about you than it does your god.
@@thomasridley8675 I want to please God. However, what I really need is this experience of God that I have, the feeling of being connected to God.
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Another happy Atheistic scientist.
... the answer to your question is much simpler.... there is no intelligence here thus the search.
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Because there is no intelligence here
Waste of time, better focus on bmi and ai
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