Decided to do a bit of research on how a hydraulic brake works. This is a video explaining how it works and how you might tee it into your existing system.
So incredibly helpful. Lifted a huge weight off my shoulders when you showed how the first step of the actuation actually seals off the remainder of the hydraulic circuit. Thank you, thank you, thank you!
If you wanted to go all out you could also run dual calipers on the rear tires so you can use the two new calipers you added when ripping the hydro and not use the two stock calipers to save resources.
Just a quick heads up. If you are tee-ing into a twin line to the rear, then you should change the brake lines at the proportion valve. At the moment if you have a sudden fluid leak to the rear wheels, then all fluid from both brake circuits will just leak, ergo no brakes.
In a dual rear brake line system, teeing the brake lines like you are showing requires an ABS delete and would eliminate the safety of a diagonal system. You can use a twin master/tandem cylinder to keep both rear lines independent, this is how it is done on Group N rally cars.
So if you add a shut off valve and Tee your added inlet line, you can effectively toggle your inline rear brake bias to a lever as well as use it if you wanted to hold the front wheels seperately from the rear. Interesting
what are the possible chances that a hand brake system will be damaged and needs to change the caliper??? that's what my CASA had been telling that I feel something off :(
This is great, man. Couple of friends and I are building a motorkhana car and we want to have a hydraulic brake in tandem with the standard cable brake so we don't need to chock the wheels when it's in storage. Your video helped us out A TONNE. Quick query Is the hydraulic handbrake literally just a clutch slave cylinder with a big actuator on it, or is there more fuckery in this than a clutch slave?
+AnthonyH Glad I could help man lol. And yes, thats essentially what it is. During my research, I found that some people used a clutch slave cylinder from a Honda and it seems to work well for them, but those had the resevoir on them I believe
thank you sooo much!!!! after watching all the dog shite videos that explains nothing only showing off their hydro. this finally explained to me how it works and how its connected up. thank you for this great tutorial. liked and subscribed in a heart beat!
Devon Friedman I didn't replace my cable e brake. Actually didn't physically touch my rear brake setup at all. This setup utilizes your stock rear calipers on the rear discs. Your cable brake should use internal drum brakes on the rear to hold the car
It does, but in my case the cable bracket that engages both sides of the rear wheels is kinda bent and doesnt like to be adjusted to much. Hydraulic brakes just actuate faster than cable does
If you ever get a leak on any part of the system with this setup you will loose all brakes. You are combining the diagonal split into 1 complete system 1 leak = empty master cylinder = wall
Likely, which is why I have retained the use of my cable actuated emergency brake as well. The hydro e-brake actuates the rear calipers, while the cable e-brake actuates the internal parking drum brakes on the rear.
Im curious how this would work with the willwood cuz it only has 1 entrance and a reservoir on it any information I appreciate it???????any1 who reads this lmk
That kind of setup is for use with a dual caliper setup. Where the only connection goes directly to a second pair of rear calipers that are only used by the hydraulic handbrake. They are considered safer as they are a completely separate system to the existing brakes. They also avoid the inconsistent pedal feel that an inline system can cause.
@@yeahnah6468 I intalled a inline on my rsx, i have a brake booster also,abs,it lock up the back tires but i thought it would sling shot out .it only moves about 1 inch and its already locking rear tire its strange?any reason why the ebrake is so stiff? Any info is appreciated.
Unless you press down the foot brake after you pull back the hydro brake, no damage should happen to the system. If you pull the hydro brake and then press the foot brake, you'll blow out the seal in the hydro brake that holds pressure. Other than that, its just like having normal brakes.
Wicked thankyou , was just a little concerned when a professional drifter here in New Zealand said I would need a one way valve so that it wouldn't travel back up.
@@That_Red_Omni ok so if that's the case then this is kind of useless for any actual applications other than drag racing fwd cars and showing off. Most of the time if I need the hand brake I am already on the brakes to get the car set up. I can't think of a time that I pull the hand brake without being on the brakes.
@@gnashings which is true if you're doing this as an in-line system. However, if you are doing this brake setup externally with additional calipers (such as drifting), you can be on the foot brake all day while pulling the hydro since it won't share the same fluid
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Probably the best and most simple tutorial about hydro brake on TH-cam 👌🏿👌🏿👍🏿
So incredibly helpful. Lifted a huge weight off my shoulders when you showed how the first step of the actuation actually seals off the remainder of the hydraulic circuit. Thank you, thank you, thank you!
I was doing some research if installing hydraulic handbrake deletes rear footbrake, which it doesnt. Thanks for the video mate.
If you wanted to go all out you could also run dual calipers on the rear tires so you can use the two new calipers you added when ripping the hydro and not use the two stock calipers to save resources.
Great job! Probably one of the best educational tutorials I've seen. Very easy to understand and well developed. Keep up the good work.
at last, someone who makes tings crystal clear, good man, thanks
Yes! Greatness in TH-cam. Thank You for clearly and concisely addressing the subject. TH-cam hero!
Great video.
Absolutely Perfect.
Thanks for posting.
Helpful video. Thanks!
Great Explanation!
That was a very in depth video🤘
Just a quick heads up. If you are tee-ing into a twin line to the rear, then you should change the brake lines at the proportion valve. At the moment if you have a sudden fluid leak to the rear wheels, then all fluid from both brake circuits will just leak, ergo no brakes.
In a dual rear brake line system, teeing the brake lines like you are showing requires an ABS delete and would eliminate the safety of a diagonal system. You can use a twin master/tandem cylinder to keep both rear lines independent, this is how it is done on Group N rally cars.
Interesting, didn't know that. Guess I don't have to worry about it on my car since it didn't cone from the factory with ABS as it was never an option
I am considering to use twin master tandom brake on the front for tight steering
underrated video, very helpful
VERY HELPFUL! Thanks a lot!
Great video
Excellent information
nice,well explained thx :)
Nice!
I love you who ever made this video
Thanks, I love you too.
By connecting the two circuits together by a T-junction you have converted it to a single circuit braking system
So if you add a shut off valve and Tee your added inlet line, you can effectively toggle your inline rear brake bias to a lever as well as use it if you wanted to hold the front wheels seperately from the rear. Interesting
Thanks, now I understand why the inlet is in the rear finally :P
Thanks for this, turns out I had my inlet and outlet the wrong way round 👍
Thank you.
thanks
Thanks
With this set up i can use my front caliper for rear wheels..
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what are the possible chances that a hand brake system will be damaged and needs to change the caliper??? that's what my CASA had been telling that I feel something off :(
This is great, man. Couple of friends and I are building a motorkhana car and we want to have a hydraulic brake in tandem with the standard cable brake so we don't need to chock the wheels when it's in storage. Your video helped us out A TONNE.
Quick query
Is the hydraulic handbrake literally just a clutch slave cylinder with a big actuator on it, or is there more fuckery in this than a clutch slave?
+AnthonyH Glad I could help man lol. And yes, thats essentially what it is. During my research, I found that some people used a clutch slave cylinder from a Honda and it seems to work well for them, but those had the resevoir on them I believe
They guy at Napa said this ain’t gonna work because it will push the piston out
top guy.
Does this mean using a double banjo is no problem?
Anybody installed a working cylinder upside down to hide brake lines?? Research says YES and some say NO
thank you sooo much!!!! after watching all the dog shite videos that explains nothing only showing off their hydro. this finally explained to me how it works and how its connected up. thank you for this great tutorial. liked and subscribed in a heart beat!
Ben Crosbie Hey, appreciate it man! Yeah I got tired of watching the same videos myself since nobody explained HOW it worked. So I made my own lol
question, if I get a hydraulic brake to drift and replace my e brake will I still be able to lock it in place to park up hill and such?
Devon Friedman I didn't replace my cable e brake. Actually didn't physically touch my rear brake setup at all. This setup utilizes your stock rear calipers on the rear discs. Your cable brake should use internal drum brakes on the rear to hold the car
BoostedDrummer awesome thats great to know, thank you
do you have to have the break lines pointing up or can you twist the back part of the handbrake?
korven3 mine are pointed straight up and bent backwards. I'm not sure if the back party can be flipped upside down or not since I haven't tried
BoostedDrummer of it's just a piston and bolts there i don't see any point f not doing it
korven3 true, but the only problem I foresee with that is getting air bubbles trapped in there somewhere
but if you do it before putting any oil in and if you do. cant you just bleed the system, or whatever its called in english (take all the air out)
does all car have proportion valve?
if not is it still okay to install hydraulic brake?
alexander aguinaldo all cars should have a proportioning valve
what if you press the foot brake loading the rear up with pressure then you use the hydro and put even more pressure?
You could, but there's ALOT of pressure already exerted by the hand brake itself. Putting more pressure would likely just blow seals
What about normal handbrake? Does it use the rear calippers too?
It does, but in my case the cable bracket that engages both sides of the rear wheels is kinda bent and doesnt like to be adjusted to much. Hydraulic brakes just actuate faster than cable does
If you ever get a leak on any part of the system with this setup you will loose all brakes. You are combining the diagonal split into 1 complete system 1 leak = empty master cylinder = wall
Likely, which is why I have retained the use of my cable actuated emergency brake as well. The hydro e-brake actuates the rear calipers, while the cable e-brake actuates the internal parking drum brakes on the rear.
Thanks so much no
Im curious how this would work with the willwood cuz it only has 1 entrance and a reservoir on it any information I appreciate it???????any1 who reads this lmk
That kind of setup is for use with a dual caliper setup. Where the only connection goes directly to a second pair of rear calipers that are only used by the hydraulic handbrake.
They are considered safer as they are a completely separate system to the existing brakes.
They also avoid the inconsistent pedal feel that an inline system can cause.
@@yeahnah6468 I intalled a inline on my rsx, i have a brake booster also,abs,it lock up the back tires but i thought it would sling shot out .it only moves about 1 inch and its already locking rear tire its strange?any reason why the ebrake is so stiff? Any info is appreciated.
Dose it work on xbox one???
Only works for PC master race
Ok fine
If we ah apply pedal the brake ??????
Works fine, just don't do both at the same time
Can this work on a single line
+Nathan What do you mean?
Will this work on a classic mini
I'm not sure how the mini is set up, but as long as you have the brake tee'd inline with the existing system, then it should work
+BoostedDrummer thanks mate it really help me a lot
won't the fluid travel back up to the master cylinder when you release hydro messing things up ?
Unless you press down the foot brake after you pull back the hydro brake, no damage should happen to the system. If you pull the hydro brake and then press the foot brake, you'll blow out the seal in the hydro brake that holds pressure. Other than that, its just like having normal brakes.
Wicked thankyou , was just a little concerned when a professional drifter here in New Zealand said I would need a one way valve so that it wouldn't travel back up.
Blow out the seal mean the oil seal will damage or what ?..
@@That_Red_Omni ok so if that's the case then this is kind of useless for any actual applications other than drag racing fwd cars and showing off. Most of the time if I need the hand brake I am already on the brakes to get the car set up. I can't think of a time that I pull the hand brake without being on the brakes.
@@gnashings which is true if you're doing this as an in-line system. However, if you are doing this brake setup externally with additional calipers (such as drifting), you can be on the foot brake all day while pulling the hydro since it won't share the same fluid
This looks like an Epman product.I'm no expert so do what you will with my opinion..
Are they bad