one the reasons why vector .45 still no 40~50 rounds magazine is because when they add those 40~50 rounders, the 9x19 vector and other guns will be powercrept by this gun.. unless they fully nerf .45 ammo which i think it might not happen.
@ dropping the damage makes it worse than 9x19 on a damage per mag scale. All the drop does is reduce the effectiveness against C4 helmets and plates. It will still tear right through C3 helmets, soft and plates just fine. All the other .45 have less than 30 pen so they can’t reliably punch through C3
Or, and bare with me here, they can balance the accessibility of the gun/magazines to make them a rarity that is strong rather than a meta that is bought and ran! 🤯🤯🤯
Ref 4 is still an insane work though, it takes you a whole month of doing dailies to get him. And by the time you get ref4, you'll have other traders on ll4
Gl core stock is best for ergonomics it is the default stock of the stm it is also free because most people sell stms below vendor price so you might make like 2k roubles and you get the highest ergo stock 😂
good info - ive been running this with rip ammo, an elcan, and spraying at the face. crazy effective even up to 30-40m. the main benefit ive been finding though, is the ability to one tap AI scavs at decent range. the extra damage makes up for the crazy damage drop off from the smg and the higher head hit points on some scavs. I've only died to a chad with a faceshield once so far, but i expect that will increase as the wipe progresses
I need to grab this thing. I remember the last wipe I played (the one right before the AUG was added) I stumbled on the .45 version in a raid and went to keep it...but I couldn't really get any good ammo or mags for it. That was a sad day.
I want to love this gun but every time I bring it into raid I spray a guy with 3 separate mags, get like 20 hits and he's still kicking. And that's with AP. I've started using lower fire rate guns with higher 'up-time' per mag to land headshots with.
@ Oh yeah for sure but 1100 rpm with 30 rounders gives you like 1.6 seconds lmao. I'd rather use an mp7 or m4 that's a little more forgiving, a little more controllable, with a little more range to hit those headshots.
Honestly the only major issue is while the AP ammo is amazing, the gun fucking consumes ammo so god damn fast. 950-ish a round with a gun that's basically a bullet hose gets really rough really fast. However, FMJ in the Vector is honestly just fine and, unless you're in the late late wipe, you don't really need AP. THe flesh damage it does and the massive fire rate will typically still kill people really fuckin' fast. You'll straight up either rip through their armor or literally bludgeon them to death if you can land your shots center of mass. The Vector has been my go-to budget gun this wipe.
The FMJ is totally fine in 1v1 since you can just brute force through most armor with the entire mag. But AP does allow you to take down 2-3 people with one mag.
That's the balance, alongside 30 rounders being max capacity and progression locked. You can get a high rate of fire in a controllable gun with good pen (for what it is), but the high pen ammo is expensive as hell
I don’t use many rounds at all when I run the .45 Vector mainly because I use the burst fire mode. One cleanly placed burst will down scavs, 3-4 will kill most PMCs. That means a 30 round mag can kill 15 scavs or ~7.5-10 PMCs. That’s pretty insane when you think about it. It’s basically a .308 round in terms of damage whilst being relatively good AP. It’s a .45 afterall, it’s a big bullet.
i was always offput by the 30 round mags as well, but as of late I've been running the MP9-N and loving it so only 30 rounds at 1100 isnt actually that bad.. I definitely need to try out the .45 vector
Tbh i dont think 45AP should be on flea, you should just be able to buy a lot of it from PK. It would involve the restock timer and charisma could get you more ammo. It would also make people see it as more of a rarity, like high-pen bullets are suppose to be.
buddy of mine with an m4 couldn't countersnipe the sniper scavs on customs, i had to do it with my vector with a simple holo sight on it, took his ego down a few pegs that evening!
hey, not related question but can cheaters still lower your frames? im not up to date with updates and me and my friend stopped playing becouse of that so would love to know
Love this gun. The fire rate is so insane that shooting pure AP is overkill imo. Stack 1 ap for every 2 or 3 fmj and you get better value from your rounds and more consistent performance through the whole mag.
How would you even measure it? You'd have to go by unarmored targets but that's not really helpful when everyone runs varying degrees of armor. And even if two armors share the same class it doesn't mean they're equal when you consider durability. Then you have different ammos, and range affects their performance. So measuring TTK just isn't useful when it isn't consistent depending on what armor your target is using, what ammo you're using, and at what distance you're firing from. And even if you land perfect hits from a certain range there's always something like a random ricochet chance or fragmentation through armor that throws it off too.
Picked up a kitted vector with mags from a guy running around on Customs. We ran into each other and he never got a shot off. I loaded in with it next raid and i never got a shot off before i died 😅 fuckin vector
I've used this gun on Woods for farming Shturman and people genuinely don't expect someone sprinting at them like a rabid hyena. Especially since there's cover around now inside and around Sawmill, spamming nades and forcing pushes puts people on the edge. It's an insanely overlooked gun.
I use it to farm Kaban and Kollontay. Kollontay is a bit tricky but doable (I suck at killing him with all the weapons so if I can semi-reliably kill him with vector, that's something) but Kaban is just a big bad bullet sponge, so throwing 60+dmg rounds at 1100rpm works wonders, as long as you can track of your ammo
They should put AP purchase restrictions to the flea. Otherwise we’ll see another SMG nerf wave, with a whole lot of just decent guns becoming useless bc there are turbosweats who run full AP loadouts raid after raid, nullifying any armor and any common sense. Yes, I still hold a good grudge against Vector players after the previous SMG nerf
ah yes the vector, the sound of roubles leaving your stash
one the reasons why vector .45 still no 40~50 rounds magazine is because when they add those 40~50 rounders, the 9x19 vector and other guns will be powercrept by this gun.. unless they fully nerf .45 ammo which i think it might not happen.
If they drop the .45 AP to 32 pen, and basically set the Vector45 as a fleshborer, that could work… then they add 40 rounders
@@danhay2505 nerfing the Pen of an AP round is like removing the "AP" of that round. Ill go for damage nerf instead.
@ dropping the damage makes it worse than 9x19 on a damage per mag scale. All the drop does is reduce the effectiveness against C4 helmets and plates. It will still tear right through C3 helmets, soft and plates just fine. All the other .45 have less than 30 pen so they can’t reliably punch through C3
I honestly want they _never_ add the 40 or 50 rounds mag for for the .45 vector. It's an amazing way to balance a gun.
Or, and bare with me here, they can balance the accessibility of the gun/magazines to make them a rarity that is strong rather than a meta that is bought and ran! 🤯🤯🤯
There's nothing quite like the feeling of dropping an altyn + zabralo chad in like 100 milliseconds with rip rounds to the legs.
11:22 ¨omg this is awful¨ smiling from ear to ear LMAO
I love how we cant buy 55a1 and can buy sp6 from ref...
Ref 4 is still an insane work though, it takes you a whole month of doing dailies to get him. And by the time you get ref4, you'll have other traders on ll4
Gl core stock is best for ergonomics it is the default stock of the stm it is also free because most people sell stms below vendor price so you might make like 2k roubles and you get the highest ergo stock 😂
i use the magazine load function with AP--FMJ-AP rotation, and then i use burst fire. makes it a lot of fun
Really love you adding the clips of your builds in action. Please do this in the future! I'm always curious to see how they play out!
Leviticus has been talking about this little devil for a good while now..
good info - ive been running this with rip ammo, an elcan, and spraying at the face. crazy effective even up to 30-40m. the main benefit ive been finding though, is the ability to one tap AI scavs at decent range. the extra damage makes up for the crazy damage drop off from the smg and the higher head hit points on some scavs. I've only died to a chad with a faceshield once so far, but i expect that will increase as the wipe progresses
The damage drop-off is not that serious. I don't think there is any range at which 45ACP RIP is not going to one-tap unprotected thorax.
@umbrella4407 I meant the damage drop off on AP ammo makes dealing with scavs at range a problem sometimes but the rip ammo solves this
I need to grab this thing. I remember the last wipe I played (the one right before the AUG was added) I stumbled on the .45 version in a raid and went to keep it...but I couldn't really get any good ammo or mags for it. That was a sad day.
I want to love this gun but every time I bring it into raid I spray a guy with 3 separate mags, get like 20 hits and he's still kicking. And that's with AP. I've started using lower fire rate guns with higher 'up-time' per mag to land headshots with.
High fire rate is better for headshots
All arena players know and do this aong as you aim at head it will hit
@ Oh yeah for sure but 1100 rpm with 30 rounders gives you like 1.6 seconds lmao. I'd rather use an mp7 or m4 that's a little more forgiving, a little more controllable, with a little more range to hit those headshots.
@@jasontheranga9769 agreed
AK-12 is perfect for this IMO, ammo is basically everywhere and the gun handling is pretty good for headshots
noooooooo this is the 2nd vector video ive seen in like a week theyre about to get so expensive
Honestly the only major issue is while the AP ammo is amazing, the gun fucking consumes ammo so god damn fast. 950-ish a round with a gun that's basically a bullet hose gets really rough really fast.
However, FMJ in the Vector is honestly just fine and, unless you're in the late late wipe, you don't really need AP. THe flesh damage it does and the massive fire rate will typically still kill people really fuckin' fast. You'll straight up either rip through their armor or literally bludgeon them to death if you can land your shots center of mass. The Vector has been my go-to budget gun this wipe.
The FMJ is totally fine in 1v1 since you can just brute force through most armor with the entire mag. But AP does allow you to take down 2-3 people with one mag.
That's the balance, alongside 30 rounders being max capacity and progression locked. You can get a high rate of fire in a controllable gun with good pen (for what it is), but the high pen ammo is expensive as hell
I don’t use many rounds at all when I run the .45 Vector mainly because I use the burst fire mode. One cleanly placed burst will down scavs, 3-4 will kill most PMCs. That means a 30 round mag can kill 15 scavs or ~7.5-10 PMCs. That’s pretty insane when you think about it. It’s basically a .308 round in terms of damage whilst being relatively good AP. It’s a .45 afterall, it’s a big bullet.
I'm still running lvl 3 plates and ADARs. This will be super helpful in 2 months.
Vector A-10 Warthog goes BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRT
I have been using the vector 45 religiously on PVE. I found it really cheap, but really effective.
Been using it on Arena and realised how amazing it is. Love it.
i was always offput by the 30 round mags as well, but as of late I've been running the MP9-N and loving it so only 30 rounds at 1100 isnt actually that bad.. I definitely need to try out the .45 vector
Mp9n is the best gun in the game. Much better then the 45 vector
the sub gif is sick, do you stream AOE2?
Tbh i dont think 45AP should be on flea, you should just be able to buy a lot of it from PK. It would involve the restock timer and charisma could get you more ammo. It would also make people see it as more of a rarity, like high-pen bullets are suppose to be.
Throw a monstrum 2x on it and you can tap people at distance semi reliably
buddy of mine with an m4 couldn't countersnipe the sniper scavs on customs, i had to do it with my vector with a simple holo sight on it, took his ego down a few pegs that evening!
When the game register hits...
Skill issue bud 😂
hey, not related question but can cheaters still lower your frames? im not up to date with updates and me and my friend stopped playing becouse of that so would love to know
the 45 vector is hilariously broken, ive been using it on labs a ton.
the 45 acp vector is sooooo gooooood
What sight is this?
I love this gun so much . But sad thing is .45 RIP is lock behide task in low fps map,😢
Love this gun. The fire rate is so insane that shooting pure AP is overkill imo. Stack 1 ap for every 2 or 3 fmj and you get better value from your rounds and more consistent performance through the whole mag.
This is what I'd assume you do. Especially with SMGs which you hardly ever tap fire.
Just milkshake your magazines and let er rip
I had a 5 kill pmc game on streets with this it's nasty
This gun is crazy but eats up ammo like crazy, still prefer the ump.
But it’s so good to hear a ump and know for sure that those 25 bullets mag is gonna go fast 😂 but I agree with you!
There goes my cheap 45 :D
Another nice and not well known leg meta weapon is the ash 12. Just don't go for the silencer.
Wonder why TTK is not a stat taken note of in tarkov vs other games?
How would you even measure it? You'd have to go by unarmored targets but that's not really helpful when everyone runs varying degrees of armor. And even if two armors share the same class it doesn't mean they're equal when you consider durability. Then you have different ammos, and range affects their performance. So measuring TTK just isn't useful when it isn't consistent depending on what armor your target is using, what ammo you're using, and at what distance you're firing from. And even if you land perfect hits from a certain range there's always something like a random ricochet chance or fragmentation through armor that throws it off too.
Too unpredictable in practice due to the multiple health pools and general inaccuracy.
Picked up a kitted vector with mags from a guy running around on Customs. We ran into each other and he never got a shot off. I loaded in with it next raid and i never got a shot off before i died 😅 fuckin vector
.45 vector, or how to brrrr pepeals 😂
my fav smg and mpx
Im crazy and I just do every mag on this with every other bullet AP
9:22 wtf was that sound
This did not show up in my sub feed for some reason.
When I’m in a vector glazing competition and my enemy is Gigabeef
Big bullet + fast fire rate + low recoil = WMD
Its funny listening to you talk about "point fourty five" ammo. We just call it 45 here in the US.
I've used this gun on Woods for farming Shturman and people genuinely don't expect someone sprinting at them like a rabid hyena.
Especially since there's cover around now inside and around Sawmill, spamming nades and forcing pushes puts people on the edge. It's an insanely overlooked gun.
I use it to farm Kaban and Kollontay. Kollontay is a bit tricky but doable (I suck at killing him with all the weapons so if I can semi-reliably kill him with vector, that's something) but Kaban is just a big bad bullet sponge, so throwing 60+dmg rounds at 1100rpm works wonders, as long as you can track of your ammo
Thanks Gigabeef, BSG is nuking SMGs next wipe now.
you can label mags?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!
One of the best features.
Most fun gun in the game. :)
Why would you tell everyone? Now my ammo is going to be sold out or super expesive. lol
You spelled Kedr wrong.
GIGA GIGA GIGA!
*clears throat* ~chambered in the lords holy cartridge
shhhhHHHHHHH DON'T TELL THEM ABOUT IT
the best smg is the mcx ;)
Speedy
Assault rifles will always be better
They should put AP purchase restrictions to the flea. Otherwise we’ll see another SMG nerf wave, with a whole lot of just decent guns becoming useless bc there are turbosweats who run full AP loadouts raid after raid, nullifying any armor and any common sense. Yes, I still hold a good grudge against Vector players after the previous SMG nerf
Ammo don’t matter when the hit reg, desync, and lag is apparent every raid.
isn't there only 2 smgs that fire it though? the UMP and the 45 Vector?
could you please not do videos like this, makes game much more annoying to play, people follow bozos like you and make prices 2x higher. thanks fy
If only the sound wasn't so dogshit he might have been able to tell where those boltys were shooting him from on woods.
Trash gun
quit making those videos please
my problem with the vector is its durability especially on the 9x19 version in a long raid it jams alot kinda annoying
@@syankha8329 ok good to know thanks for the tip i didnt realize the suppressor was destroying the durability so much
@@YerFarQ2yeah you gotta build suppressors with good cooling or watch how much ammo you’re dumping.