whats it been out? 4 years? and the only real difference is the explosive payload nerf on legendarys? Easiest 140 in the game to use IMO, even over zen moment austringer. The final shot exotic trait might not even be needed on this thing to be goated.
Thank you for acknowledging fragile focus. It really is slept on. Having an extra 25 range is crazy. Though I actually use golden tricorn VS precision instrument. Because I play on solar warlock and I can get 2 taps very easily, especially with sanguine alchemy with the change. To blood magic Perk, I can get 2 taps very easily.And can even get one taps when i have golden tricorn times two.
@@Ben_X_Outdoors yooo i forgot i have a golden tri roll that on titan with those boots for one hit shoulder charge into a easy 2 tap might be a set up for 6s
Kept confidence got a glow up with the ballistics mod, same with round robin. Their stats (and perk pool to some extent) really held them back when they came out
I think the best handcannon in the game right now is the friends we made along the way, because why suffer PvP alone when you have someone to share it with.
Nerfing Hawkmoon would be HILLARIOUS. It's not even THAT good, it just thrives off of long range, passive metas. Shotties and fusions currently make it impossible not to just put on a scout or a pulse (watch cammy's video on it he explains it very well). Hawkmoon can afford plinking out of its range and getting a one shot to punish passivity. May I recommend rangefinder for hawkmoon, by the way? RF is still insane for hitting your shots despite the nerfs, even if you're in damage dropoff. But being in damage dropoff for hitting a crossmap shot at scout range thanks to RF doesn't matter when you're doing 500 damage at base.
@@CapKongEOTS x Zen is ridiculous on Austringer! I have a love/meh relationship with it, usually after I've gone back to Hawkmoon & then decide I want an Exotic Special... Oh yeah! Austringer! Then it's attached to my Guardians for weeks 😄
My austringer is rangefinder snapshot and honestly it's hard not to 3tap even if my shots aren't 100% accurate (I'm also on roller so probs have that AA built in 😂)
The god roll you said for hawkmoon was the first hawkmoon I ever got, and ive never once thought about buying another. You are correct sir. xD I also have the rose which you said would be your 5/5. Same exact rolls. I will say though, hawkmoon totally isnt broken, Its exceptional if you hit your shots, but you'd be surprised how many people cant.
I really love the rose from banshee tbh I personally like 140’s with high handling paired with a slug shotgun for easy 1 tap from each. And being a warlock main it lets me use transversive steps without the guns feelings terrible
Been using Austringer for a while now, convinced it's probably the best dueling HC. None of the HC's mentioned in the vid can roll with both Eye and Zen Moment, both of which are amazing for dueling specifically. The roll I've been rocking for a while now has a respectable 74 Range and insane 94 Stability (Smallbore, Ricochet Rounds, Enhanced Eye and Zen for +10 Stability, Ballistics mod and Enhanced Range MW) and to be honest the only HC's I lose to are 120's that outrange it or are using a damage perk to twotap.
@@jedz05 Hasn't been farmable for about a year or so now, came out with Solar 3.0. I believe you *might* be able to get one to drop from Xur with his 7 coin weapon option, but it's rare and not guaranteed to be a red border.
You can still get austringer but only in the presage exotic mission as a reward completion, its an rng drop but keep in mind the mission is farmable, you unfortunately missed it as it was the weekly mission last week. Although it will be back as the featured weekly this month on the 24th of Dec.
@kreive4719 It is farmable but only in presage mission when it appears as the featured weekly. 1st run will be a guaranteed red border drop for one of the weapons in the loot pool if the weapon is missing a red border (Around 10-12 weapons in the loot pool). After the 1st run, guaranteed a weapon drop but rng for the weapons and unfortunately red borders also rng.
prob wont get it back till sometime next year as we just got ancient gospel thats now void from solar. so bungie prob giving it time to shine a bit before bringing pali back. Glad I kept all of mines tho.
1. Skipping targeted redaction is a crime, especially with the way abilities are cooling down now. Targeted redaction is a beast when it comes to stats and feels super smooth with void subclasses.
As a console player myself, DEFINITELY try crimils. I personally run my roll the exact same as wallah but with steady rounds instead of accurized (-7 range for +15 stab and a sprinkle of ae) and its an absolute monster.
Yeah I agree with you. 120s feel bad on controller cause we have more recoil than mouse and keyboard users. I got a roll with to the pain and it makes the gun work sooo much better than any of the other 120s. Gives the gun more of a stick feelings and bigger hit box so when you’re shooting it doesn’t flick so far off them when you’re shooting far away.
Been loving my bottom dollar, Ive had a fluted, accurized, surplus, opening shot, stability mw chilling in my vault for years now that I never used. Slapped on sixth coyote or frostees on stand hunter so I always have giga stats
Note on something new, I'm really enjoying ele cap + kill clip on a bakris hunter. You get confirmed 2 taps with bakris and stasis elecap is crazy with 100 mobility.
I have been using Keep Away + Precision Instrument with Extended Mag to help with AE, but Lone Wolf is a great idea. Definitely gonna start farming for that after I get a good Scavenger’s Fate.
I have a combined action with full bore, acc rounds, zen moment, and adagio. This thing makes me feel like a real cowboy so i enjoy it quite a bit. Also sunshot and rose are my go to aswell. Great video as always Wallah🔥
I’m in the minority here but Rose with Elem Cap (Void) building into range… thing its really good for dueling, the recentering is smooth, the flinch is minimal and you can still go for range stats. It’s one of my favourite Rose builds since 140s, especially Rose imo never felt like it lacked in Handling so it’s not a stat I care for on this specific gun. I have 100 Stability while still having 75 Range and 65 Handling
I got that roll weeks ago. Elemental Capacitor + EOS. Right now its a dueling monster, I got 3 rose rolls but this one feels the best than slideshot and opening shot.
+1 on Fragile Focus, my favourite hand cannon recently has been my 100 range FF D.F.A. adept. 100 range makes the critbox cover their entire upper body, and the D.F.A. has a super nice, thin gun model. I have Focused Fury as well, if I hit 5 crits in a mag I can 2c1b like Ace
Personally my favorite 140 on the game is Lunas howl with slide shot, precision instrument, hammer forge, ricochet rounds, and with a range master work, I got lucky enough to get the shiny version roll, honestly thing destroys I would give it a try, you’d be surprised how consistent it is
Sturm + Drang is still very solid. Sadly the abundance and strength of both special weapons and abilities makes it hard to compete against more skilled opponents who are (ab)using meta
I played around with a couple sidearms today and there still pretty good but annoying when you have people that always slide with a shotgun and legit never engage in fights without shotgun ammo
I have the exact Iggy roll. Had GT/PI and it went HARRRD during wish season. Shame about the 3 stat nerf, with ophids I was sat at 100 range 100 handling. Thing is a monster.
@@ethanhensley9355 Right but just cuz they aren't broken stated doesn't mean they are bad Ive outgunned iggys with a slide opening bottom dollar and I have close to 7k kills on my adept pali. Feel also matters in addition to stats
@@simplyfitness892 austringers alright, personal bias doesn’t really determine how good a weapon is, rose is a better legendary and hawkmoon is a better exotic 140
If you’re really buildcrafting then I would say thorn and sightline survey are extremely good. Invis and wall hacks on a normal kill with thorn is extremely valuable and playing prismatic to bakris dodge and use melee radiant to always 3 tap with sightline is amazing. Obviously you’re sort of forced to really devote yourself more to it but when you do it’s great
Last Episode I've got Crimil's Dagger with fluted, accurized, stab MW, slideways and zen moment. I let it cook for a bit in my vault (had a feeling that PI would be nerfed on 120s). And oh boy, this Episode it feels fuckin great. Especially with Lukcy Pants.
I need a crafted hawkmoon with lonewolf, rapid hit and keep away As someone who has main hawkmoon with 30 thousand kills I don’t believe it’s broken the range keeps you on check or at least on controller I don’t know how HCs work on mnk
Agreed. My handling was abysmal which was its one downside but now with prismatic ophids I literally can’t take it off. Amazing gun and it sounds great too
Crimils I have always gone with moving target zen moment as it feels very crispy to use and win gun fights but I do want moving target precision instrument
For me it’s whatever’s working that day….. also just waiting for craftable hawkmoon the potential with pi kt or maybe something dumb like adagio would be lovely
Best adept igneous is flutter,ricochet,keep away,eye of the storm,and range but I also don’t usually take airborne fights so I don’t care to much on aireborne stats
i have the weirdest skill issue with hawkmoon and just cant land shots with it and my stats show it, matches i play with it i ALLWAYS hover 20 to 30% lower persision hits then any other hand canaon i use on crucible/trials report.
Crimils dagger and round robin both feel better than ever but pulses and my new god roll chroma rush are just too good to not use. I got a max range chroma rush with full bore, accurized, range masterwork, dynamic sway kill clip and equipped the plus 6 range ballista I believe 68 range and it shreds lobbies especially when I start chaining kill clip. Chroma rush melts
@SayWallahBruh you should try out/use a combined action with zen moment and adagio. It’s the only other 120 hand cannon that has adagio and zen moment in the third column and it seems interesting thanks. P.S you the pvp goat :)
My S&W 629 44 mag is my favorite hand cannon. $1.00 per round of 240 grain and I just keep destroying monitors when I play PvP. I have to find a cheaper alternative at this point.
There’s legit only 1 hand cannon that I’ve enjoyed using in pvp (idk why I just don’t enjoy them) and it’s definitely a strange one. Finite impactor with firmly planted/iron reach
Tbh when I tried the rose from gunsmith I really didn't like it at all. The way how the gun has such a sudden kick after sliding when slideshot fades away is annoying. There's also something so wrong to be when the shots aren't just 1 DMG instance like a normal HC. Austringer or hawkmoon feels miles better to me
Hey what about targeted redaction? W keep away and unsated hunger, steady rounds hammer forge rang mw ballistics, 89 range 64 stability 86 handling 100 reload speed, well rounded boosts nearly everything to max
It's honestly probably the best legendary 140 in the game on controller, but it's unusable on a mouse. If you're on PC, I suggest getting the old not forgotten roll from the collection, as zen moment lets you actually see what you're shooting at.
I really hope they bring igneous back icl only gun in trials I actually wanted the god roll for and got a 4 of 5 why they removed one of the most hyped up trials weapons ever after it only being out for such a short period of time is actually beyond me for a 3 burst and a rocket launcher it’s just wild to me icl 🤦🏻♂️
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I've been using a Loud Lullaby w/ Slideshot + Explosive and slapping PvP folk this Iron Banana
You did not mention thorn i dont think but thorn is kind of the best 140 not even kinda it is right behind hawkmoon combine either one with a strand lucky pants hunter or even void/invis hunter using lucky pants you are basically guaranteed a we ran in crucible or just a solid kd and win
People need to remember that a God roll is subjective depending on your playstyle and what works for a 0.01 top percent player probably won't work for average joe. Use what feels good to you.
What about the old Adept Igneous? I have Fluted, Ricochet, Rapid hit, Celerity with Handling MW. Would you still run Fragile/Precision over a near perfect old roll?
I’m Ngl the only hand cannon I’m enjoying is hawkmoon 😂 yall have legit converted me
Hell yeah brother
Hawkmoon on strand hunter with lucky pants is just so goated rn
whats it been out? 4 years? and the only real difference is the explosive payload nerf on legendarys? Easiest 140 in the game to use IMO, even over zen moment austringer. The final shot exotic trait might not even be needed on this thing to be goated.
Thank you for acknowledging fragile focus. It really is slept on. Having an extra 25 range is crazy. Though I actually use golden tricorn VS precision instrument. Because I play on solar warlock and I can get 2 taps very easily, especially with sanguine alchemy with the change. To blood magic Perk, I can get 2 taps very easily.And can even get one taps when i have golden tricorn times two.
@@Ben_X_Outdoors yooo i forgot i have a golden tri roll that on titan with those boots for one hit shoulder charge into a easy 2 tap might be a set up for 6s
Kept confidence got a glow up with the ballistics mod, same with round robin. Their stats (and perk pool to some extent) really held them back when they came out
Everything that outclassed them also got the mod tho…
Both was already great in pvp
Round robin got better because 120rpm buff.
@@agamerjourney9146 correct
I always enjoyed the chunk feel of round robin. Fuckin huge and loud as fuck
I think the best handcannon in the game right now is the friends we made along the way, because why suffer PvP alone when you have someone to share it with.
Exaaaaactly, me and igneous hammer, rose, hawkmoon, all my friends
I don't have friends
@crigen_4960 you and me bother 😢
Nerfing Hawkmoon would be HILLARIOUS. It's not even THAT good, it just thrives off of long range, passive metas. Shotties and fusions currently make it impossible not to just put on a scout or a pulse (watch cammy's video on it he explains it very well). Hawkmoon can afford plinking out of its range and getting a one shot to punish passivity.
May I recommend rangefinder for hawkmoon, by the way? RF is still insane for hitting your shots despite the nerfs, even if you're in damage dropoff. But being in damage dropoff for hitting a crossmap shot at scout range thanks to RF doesn't matter when you're doing 500 damage at base.
Austringer with max range, Snapshot, zen moment and the anti flinch mod is beautiful
Austringer, my bae ❤
Istg I love this hand cannon even more than Rose honestly. The way it feels is almost voluptuous 🥵
For some reason I never vibed with Austringer with snapshot, once I swapped to EotS I fell in love with it again
@@CapKongEOTS x Zen is ridiculous on Austringer! I have a love/meh relationship with it, usually after I've gone back to Hawkmoon & then decide I want an Exotic Special... Oh yeah! Austringer! Then it's attached to my Guardians for weeks 😄
Eye is better
My austringer is rangefinder snapshot and honestly it's hard not to 3tap even if my shots aren't 100% accurate (I'm also on roller so probs have that AA built in 😂)
The god roll you said for hawkmoon was the first hawkmoon I ever got, and ive never once thought about buying another. You are correct sir. xD I also have the rose which you said would be your 5/5. Same exact rolls. I will say though, hawkmoon totally isnt broken, Its exceptional if you hit your shots, but you'd be surprised how many people cant.
Take a drink every time he says "too too much"
You forgot about Thorn, It feels pretty damn good this season its in my top 3 140's for sure.
I can't put it down right now, why is it so fun??
@@LosMuebles I know right lol :)
I really love the rose from banshee tbh I personally like 140’s with high handling paired with a slug shotgun for easy 1 tap from each. And being a warlock main it lets me use transversive steps without the guns feelings terrible
Pretty damn good with a bow, too!😂
Been using Austringer for a while now, convinced it's probably the best dueling HC. None of the HC's mentioned in the vid can roll with both Eye and Zen Moment, both of which are amazing for dueling specifically. The roll I've been rocking for a while now has a respectable 74 Range and insane 94 Stability (Smallbore, Ricochet Rounds, Enhanced Eye and Zen for +10 Stability, Ballistics mod and Enhanced Range MW) and to be honest the only HC's I lose to are 120's that outrange it or are using a damage perk to twotap.
i need a craftable aust its so op but i missed out on farming red boarders when it came back out is it still farmable?
@@jedz05 Hasn't been farmable for about a year or so now, came out with Solar 3.0. I believe you *might* be able to get one to drop from Xur with his 7 coin weapon option, but it's rare and not guaranteed to be a red border.
You can still get austringer but only in the presage exotic mission as a reward completion, its an rng drop but keep in mind the mission is farmable, you unfortunately missed it as it was the weekly mission last week.
Although it will be back as the featured weekly this month on the 24th of Dec.
@kreive4719 It is farmable but only in presage mission when it appears as the featured weekly.
1st run will be a guaranteed red border drop for one of the weapons in the loot pool if the weapon is missing a red border (Around 10-12 weapons in the loot pool).
After the 1st run, guaranteed a weapon drop but rng for the weapons and unfortunately red borders also rng.
I just want palindrome back...
prob wont get it back till sometime next year as we just got ancient gospel thats now void from solar. so bungie prob giving it time to shine a bit before bringing pali back. Glad I kept all of mines tho.
Real 😢
Ikr
Hawkmoon just feels to nice trains you to not miss headshots with other guns as well .
1. Skipping targeted redaction is a crime, especially with the way abilities are cooling down now. Targeted redaction is a beast when it comes to stats and feels super smooth with void subclasses.
From a console controller casual who seldom does pvp, Something New is the only 120 I feel like I can actually consistently get headshots with.
As a console player myself, DEFINITELY try crimils. I personally run my roll the exact same as wallah but with steady rounds instead of accurized (-7 range for +15 stab and a sprinkle of ae) and its an absolute monster.
EC + PI on void is feeling unreal 93 range and 80 stab
Yeah I agree with you. 120s feel bad on controller cause we have more recoil than mouse and keyboard users. I got a roll with to the pain and it makes the gun work sooo much better than any of the other 120s. Gives the gun more of a stick feelings and bigger hit box so when you’re shooting it doesn’t flick so far off them when you’re shooting far away.
Been wanting a vídeo like this for a while
Been loving my bottom dollar, Ive had a fluted, accurized, surplus, opening shot, stability mw chilling in my vault for years now that I never used. Slapped on sixth coyote or frostees on stand hunter so I always have giga stats
Note on something new, I'm really enjoying ele cap + kill clip on a bakris hunter. You get confirmed 2 taps with bakris and stasis elecap is crazy with 100 mobility.
Exuviae with Lone Wolf + Precision Instrument >>>>
I have been using Keep Away + Precision Instrument with Extended Mag to help with AE, but Lone Wolf is a great idea. Definitely gonna start farming for that after I get a good Scavenger’s Fate.
Exuviae... I used to hate 120s but now I'm better with that hc than other other. Dirty with high range and precision instrument.
I have a combined action with full bore, acc rounds, zen moment, and adagio. This thing makes me feel like a real cowboy so i enjoy it quite a bit. Also sunshot and rose are my go to aswell. Great video as always Wallah🔥
3:02 pretty content with Banshees rose, and no way am I doing allat comp again just to unlock rose
I’m in the minority here but Rose with Elem Cap (Void) building into range… thing its really good for dueling, the recentering is smooth, the flinch is minimal and you can still go for range stats. It’s one of my favourite Rose builds since 140s, especially Rose imo never felt like it lacked in Handling so it’s not a stat I care for on this specific gun. I have 100 Stability while still having 75 Range and 65 Handling
I got that roll weeks ago. Elemental Capacitor + EOS. Right now its a dueling monster, I got 3 rose rolls but this one feels the best than slideshot and opening shot.
keep in mind that better devils is still a top tier contender with its perk pool. don't forget the stats that igneous lost, better devils stole them
Something new with elemental cap and precision instrument has been my go to for almost a year straight. So sticky
I have the exact rose you said was the god roll.
Love it to death my guy. ❤️
+1 on Fragile Focus, my favourite hand cannon recently has been my 100 range FF D.F.A. adept. 100 range makes the critbox cover their entire upper body, and the D.F.A. has a super nice, thin gun model. I have Focused Fury as well, if I hit 5 crits in a mag I can 2c1b like Ace
Personally my favorite 140 on the game is Lunas howl with slide shot, precision instrument, hammer forge, ricochet rounds, and with a range master work, I got lucky enough to get the shiny version roll, honestly thing destroys I would give it a try, you’d be surprised how consistent it is
This is a really cool video. I appreciate the insight.
So glad I kept my hawk moon with small bore and opening shot, it’s crispy
Sturm + Drang is still very solid. Sadly the abundance and strength of both special weapons and abilities makes it hard to compete against more skilled opponents who are (ab)using meta
I played around with a couple sidearms today and there still pretty good but annoying when you have people that always slide with a shotgun and legit never engage in fights without shotgun ammo
I have the exact Iggy roll. Had GT/PI and it went HARRRD during wish season. Shame about the 3 stat nerf, with ophids I was sat at 100 range 100 handling. Thing is a monster.
Forgot austringer, kept confidence, bottom dollar, round robin, targeted redaction, pali, list goes on
None of those even come close to what he mentioned, powercrept into oblivion
@@ethanhensley9355austriner would disagree best legendary handcannon in the game for controller. Top 3 on mnk
@@ethanhensley9355 Right but just cuz they aren't broken stated doesn't mean they are bad Ive outgunned iggys with a slide opening bottom dollar and I have close to 7k kills on my adept pali. Feel also matters in addition to stats
@@CarGo-w4r okay but he’s saying best weapons not useable or close to meta
@@simplyfitness892 austringers alright, personal bias doesn’t really determine how good a weapon is, rose is a better legendary and hawkmoon is a better exotic 140
That ending tho 😂
Is exuvia not comparable? I know it can roll with keep away precision instrument.
If you’re really buildcrafting then I would say thorn and sightline survey are extremely good. Invis and wall hacks on a normal kill with thorn is extremely valuable and playing prismatic to bakris dodge and use melee radiant to always 3 tap with sightline is amazing. Obviously you’re sort of forced to really devote yourself more to it but when you do it’s great
I love air trigger on crimil's dagger but other than that my new fave 120 is combined action with adagio field tested makes it handle well.
What are your thoughts on Exuviae?
Honestly, the hc i enjoy rn is the Cantata. It's never going to be a meta weapon, but it feels good with my arc hunter build
my first something new roll was your god roll exactly with a different first column perk. my send roll ever was your exact god roll :)
Last Episode I've got Crimil's Dagger with fluted, accurized, stab MW, slideways and zen moment. I let it cook for a bit in my vault (had a feeling that PI would be nerfed on 120s). And oh boy, this Episode it feels fuckin great. Especially with Lukcy Pants.
I need a crafted hawkmoon with lonewolf, rapid hit and keep away
As someone who has main hawkmoon with 30 thousand kills I don’t believe it’s broken the range keeps you on check or at least on controller I don’t know how HCs work on mnk
Maybe it's just me, but slideshot eots Judgment feels so good, but I also use bottom dollar with slide opening if I wanna use frac in the top slot.
Agreed. My handling was abysmal which was its one downside but now with prismatic ophids I literally can’t take it off. Amazing gun and it sounds great too
Eots?
@ eye of the storm
I brought out Wardens Law with enlightened action and Kill Clip recently and it feels so good for me
Every time I wanna play a different game I watch your vids and wanna play PVP Every single time.. XD
Idk if handcanons got big buff or i got better when coming back after over a year... but im doing just fine on any.... Pvp is fun now
My favs on controller are Austringer Hawkmoon and Rose. Igneous obviously for a 120.
Crimils I have always gone with moving target zen moment as it feels very crispy to use and win gun fights but I do want moving target precision instrument
For me it’s whatever’s working that day….. also just waiting for craftable hawkmoon the potential with pi kt or maybe something dumb like adagio would be lovely
Thoughts on eyasluna? The recoil feels like if khvostov was a hand cannon, so ez to get 3 taps
Coming back to destiny, is Trust still a good hand cannon? I used to use it all the time in the crucible
Best adept igneous is flutter,ricochet,keep away,eye of the storm,and range but I also don’t usually take airborne fights so I don’t care to much on aireborne stats
i have the weirdest skill issue with hawkmoon and just cant land shots with it and my stats show it, matches i play with it i ALLWAYS hover 20 to 30% lower persision hits then any other hand canaon i use on crucible/trials report.
Crimils dagger and round robin both feel better than ever but pulses and my new god roll chroma rush are just too good to not use. I got a max range chroma rush with full bore, accurized, range masterwork, dynamic sway kill clip and equipped the plus 6 range ballista I believe 68 range and it shreds lobbies especially when I start chaining kill clip. Chroma rush melts
140, Rose. 120 Round Robin, Keep Away and elementol capacitador
@SayWallahBruh you should try out/use a combined action with zen moment and adagio. It’s the only other 120 hand cannon that has adagio and zen moment in the third column and it seems interesting thanks. P.S you the pvp goat :)
My S&W 629 44 mag is my favorite hand cannon. $1.00 per round of 240 grain and I just keep destroying monitors when I play PvP. I have to find a cheaper alternative at this point.
Thanks for another awesome video wallah!!!!
I'm STILL hoping they bring back The First Curse....
But I really love Hawkmoon first. Thorn. Sunshot. Lumina
Even on PC, Sightline Survey feels suuuuuper good to me. The range it has with Keep Away and Kill Clip is very nice.
I still have my Adept Igneous with smallbore, high cal (or flared magwell), rapid hit and Celerity with a range mw
There’s legit only 1 hand cannon that I’ve enjoyed using in pvp (idk why I just don’t enjoy them) and it’s definitely a strange one. Finite impactor with firmly planted/iron reach
anyone else notice how he keeps changing the key of the outro music? must be a subliminal message
I slay with Austringer but get ghost bullets on Hawkmoon. I’ll keep trying though.
Tbh when I tried the rose from gunsmith I really didn't like it at all. The way how the gun has such a sudden kick after sliding when slideshot fades away is annoying. There's also something so wrong to be when the shots aren't just 1 DMG instance like a normal HC. Austringer or hawkmoon feels miles better to me
Hawkmoon needs to catch the biggest nerf
on console rose is just more deadly than hawkmoon is because of the stats and its lightweight
That ending 😂😂😂😂
Hey what about targeted redaction?
W keep away and unsated hunger, steady rounds hammer forge rang mw ballistics, 89 range 64 stability 86 handling 100 reload speed, well rounded boosts nearly everything to max
what website are u using to see all that and test the differents rolls?
Honestly Rose needs a hitbox nerf. If you aim at the chest up close or at the belt at range you’ll still get a headshot and that’s really broken
Slideways is called "Wuusch" in german d2
Returning player here, is Lunas Howl any good?
Yes it's good! Barrels and mags make a big difference on it tho
It's honestly probably the best legendary 140 in the game on controller, but it's unusable on a mouse. If you're on PC, I suggest getting the old not forgotten roll from the collection, as zen moment lets you actually see what you're shooting at.
I really hope they bring igneous back icl only gun in trials I actually wanted the god roll for and got a 4 of 5 why they removed one of the most hyped up trials weapons ever after it only being out for such a short period of time is actually beyond me for a 3 burst and a rocket launcher it’s just wild to me icl 🤦🏻♂️
I've been using a Loud Lullaby w/ Slideshot + Explosive and slapping PvP folk this Iron Banana
i tend to use fatebringer with eots and explo or a dfa with timed payload and trip tap
Round Robin go crazy with it though
erm actually wallah they buffed ep on 120s specifically to allow them to two head one body so explosive payload is still a viable option
EP gates the resil. So you can't 2c1b above 7 resil.
This was secretly a hawkmoon video, and we all know it.
Psa, you can get 35 meters on austringer with 70 ish stability. I'm just saying, pound for pound its the ausi
140: exotic hawkmoon legendary rose, 120 exotic sturm, legendary crimil dagger
You did not mention thorn i dont think but thorn is kind of the best 140 not even kinda it is right behind hawkmoon combine either one with a strand lucky pants hunter or even void/invis hunter using lucky pants you are basically guaranteed a we ran in crucible or just a solid kd and win
People need to remember that a God roll is subjective depending on your playstyle and what works for a 0.01 top percent player probably won't work for average joe. Use what feels good to you.
I wish they would give us a 180 hand cannon with box breathing
What’s the website he uses to show the perks and the gun
REALLY no one like the 180s, 15k kills on my Epitaph paired with the Edge hunter glaive = most fun I've had in a while!
HAWKTUAHMOON FOR LIFE
What about the old Adept Igneous? I have Fluted, Ricochet, Rapid hit, Celerity with Handling MW. Would you still run Fragile/Precision over a near perfect old roll?
I would personally run the old one unless you like running ophids. The handling feels soooo nice. I wish I had one like that, I'm a little jealous.
I never use 140 since the 120 update. But for some reason I’m not feeling igneous
Kindled Orchid with rampage, kill clip, drop mag. 🖖
My first crimils was was slideaways and adagio roll I think with a range masterwork
Bro forgot about bottom dollar a underrated hc imo
the end lmao
Craftable hawkmoon needs to come asap
Bungie please leave Hawkmoon alone, I beg of you. Show mercy.
Ace is always #1 because style
Lumina=on demand damage buff for a super long time
No austringer mentioned :(
Crimils 2 taps with kill clip with tier 8 and below resil
austringer is god tier now
Not gonna lie Better Devils actually feels really good
Hawkmoon can one tap in the head with max stacks super slept on. Worst case 2 tap someone even if you hit a body shot!
With 8 stacks I swear you can one shot body
I’m pretty sure you can one tap body if you have 7 stacks.