DISCLAIMER: I really don't practice this anymore, especially using Microchamber paper. I'm leaving the video up in case this is something another collector would like to do.
*DISCLAIMER:* I really don't practice this anymore, especially using Microchamber paper. I'm leaving the video up incase this is something a collector would like to do.
I would like to know the same, but i do know one reason some people dont use the microchamber paper is because supposedly where it absorbs all the acid and crap in your book, it just builds up in that paper til it cant hold anymore (imagine a sponge full of water) and then in turn it ends up releasing all that stuff at once at a faster rate than normal into the book, causing more damage in less time than what would have normally happened. Personally i think the best thing you can do for your comics is have them in a good environment and stored in boxes that have lids on top. This will do more than spending massive money on mylars and microchamber paper and all that. I dont care how much mylar and crap u have on them, if you dont have them in a favorable environment/climate, thats gonna do the damage either way. In my opinion, regular poly bags of the max thickness (3mm i think) and double boarding on your more valuable issues will do just fine and u can change them down the road. If your comics are stored in a good environment with lids on them, (even covering up handle holes helps) you wont have to change them near as quick as people say.
This dude is the main reason I'm changing out my entire collection of what I keep in archival type materials. I'll never go back to bags and boards again for issues I wanna keep near mint and those I value. Kudos, homie. Just wanted to let you know. I'm on board with top loaders.
I'm comfortable doing it like this. If you are't feeling it you can definitely use a backing board. Current-size mylar and current-size HalfBack-- true acid-free board. 7.5 x 11 inch loader.
Great video, I've been using this exact same procedure with the same products for a while now, it took me forever to find the right combination...wish I'd seen your video sooner! My only departure from your process is that I use standard size boards inside the mylites with the books, to make loading/unloading them from the top loaders a bit safer. It does block seeing the back of the book, but for me safety and protection are everything.
This is pretty informative. I recently started collecting singlue issue comics for displaying purposes and this is extremely useful. Cant wait to try it
You are putting them in with tape and plastic? Won't the tape or plastic damage the book from the inside? Specially if you add more comics tightly inside or on top. Also are those Comic Top loader Holder 6x9? The size of a comic book not the size of a card board?
Not sure if you'd know since it's not a comic. But I have some sports illustrated magazines roughly 1/2 cm thick measuring about 8x10.5. What do you think I should get in terms of size for bags and backing boards? Thank you!
Great video!!! I am temporarily using poly bags so I don't have comics laying around with zero protection lol but I am switching to this method soon. I wanna preserve not only my valuable comics buthe also my favorites I plan to display.
Okay, then the My-Lites 2 full and half bags are good for Bronze age comics that are wider, especially the 68 page giant size comics than it would for current size comics that are a bit smaller? Also too can either the My-Lites 2 full and half bags can fit any Silver age comics? As for top loaders i read that only current and Silver age comics will fit well than it would for Bronze age comics is that true? Thanks for the information.
yeah right?? I noticed he is so careful with everything, he does everything so perfect and carefully and then he writes over the comic... I couldn't believe it...
I've put a lot of my Silver Age in the toploaders. The Silver Surfers are nearly impossible due to their size, however. I also have them boarded when I top load them. I've not used micro chamber paper before though. That seems like a great idea as my X-men collection needs to be preserved (only missing 1-3).
Thank you for this. I wanted to ask if I use standard size mylars with standard size fullbacks, what is the correct size for toploaders? Lastly is microchamber paper really necessary since they are already in mylars and the toploaders? Thanks again for the video though. I don't know why I like seeing comic books changing to new mylars bags, seems therapeutic to me lol.
Good video. I'm gonna be doing the same thing... dumb question. do you have a preference between bcw and ultra pro toploaders? I saw in the video that you use bcw. not sure if you had a specific reason
Nice video. Do the top loaders come in a larger size that would fit silver size books? if so, what size bag would you have to use? Thanks for the links!
I just started using top loaders for my high, high-end books... Amazing Spider-Man number 2 and so on. I've got it like so: silver bag and board in a top loader. It's snug, but it fits. Any input from anyone on that?
Would the "golden age" top loaders work with egerbers standard size bags/boards? I see the are 8x11 (as opposed to 7.5x11 for the current). Would that .5" make the difference do you think? Great informative video btw!
I am thinking of putting all my books in top loaders too. But what boxes you use to hold them. Silver age top loaders, they seem wider for regular boxes What i do is place my standard books in standard 2 mil mylar bags with a full back board, them stick it into a toploader. What boxes do i buy to house them I need to know. thanks
if you're using silver age/golden age top loaders then you'll have two choices, magazine size short/long boxes(used to store magazines) or graded comics short/long boxes. they're both the same width but different in height because obviously one is for graded comics. Hope this help. I'm currently using golden age top loaders and is using graded comics short boxes to store em.
Thanks. But the problem i am having is that i cant find Magazine Long boxes or magazine drawer boxes. They would be ideal. Do you have any idea where i could find these online?. Thanks again.
great video.I Have a question and i need help-i bought today mylites2 and halfback boards( E.Gerber). I found the boards a bit rough in the surface, not shiny, is that a problem for my comics? is it safe? someone said that they left a dimpled effect on the back cover . i would really appreciate if you helped me. Thank you.
Nice video, I recently converted all my better books to Gerber supplies and also microchamber paper....but I have yet to use acid-free tape, I have a hard time believing that there is much acid in the tape and that it would makes its way into the bag...but I might go back an redo the tape on my better books.
The main reason for archival tape is so that the glue doesn't dry out and fall off while in storage. When putting comics in bags, put the spine in first, otherwise, you may catch the front edge. If using toploaders, put the flap on the bottom.
MERCENAUT Great video and I like your idea.. I just tried this combo with about 50 books, with just the mylar bags and toploaders (no board) ..but when storing my books I'm getting a little worried because of how they stack.. the toploaders are rigid only on the 3 edges which causes the book to curve.. I tried adding some backing boards to make things more sturdier but theres still some waviness. I dont know if maybe I ordered 3 bad batches in a row (from Amazon/BCW brand) or what but I'm thinking of maybe switching to Mylite 4s and full backs. I'm wondering how your books are holding up over time.. any waviness? Thanks.
The toploaders will fit in a short box as long as you dont stack the boxes on top of each other..the tops of the loaders are the slightest bit taller then the box. I've been using CGC boxes for mine which are kind of big width wise but it gives you clearance on top. From being stored snug in the box they've somewhat straightend out over time but I still plan on dropping in a fullback or some standard boards between the mylar and loader just to give it some more rigidness.
What brand is the acid free tape that you use? Is it easy to reopen? I've been using the Scotch brand and it's a little hard to reopen my Mylars with that. Looking for something else to try.
Just awesome books man. That Iron Man 55 is beautiful! Its funny because I just bought microchamber paper for the first time. I got it off of ebay check it out. Very cool video. Great info. Keep making these videos we need them. I really want full backs bad. I cant find them on ebay. How long do you think they last?
I want to get mylites for my collection. I am worried that the standard size is going to be too big, but I am worried that some of my books that are a bit thicker won't fit into the current size bags. Do current books fit snugly enough in the standard size?
Thanks! Golden age TL wont do the trick; the mylars will just slide around in them and the comics in the golden age bags will slide around as well. For me, the current sized bags in the standard size top loaders are perfect. & if a Book wont fit in the current bag- even without a board, then I just wont put that book in there and go for a bag that will fit along with a Full-Back backing board. And the Golden age TL wont fit in the regular long box.
It doesnt matter they're all the same, BUT the last two packs of 10 I bought (at different times) where really flimsy; I wasnt comfortable with them & returned them.
So is that a Silver-sized Top Loader? I cannot find that "Current and Silver" version shown in the video. I picked up the current sized top loaders and they are slightly too small, like 1mm, and causes my "current" Mylar 2mill to bunch up in the corners.
Thanks so much for this, yeah I'm sick of dealing with comic supply-- My very first order from them a year ago was smooth, so based off that I just kept dealing with them. Again thanks!! yeah , Im looking for ST 115, and now I guess 148!
I just bought a pack of those boards when I saw that article. I use the BCWs for new books, no problem, but they dont go anywhere NEAR my older stuff! I keep meaning to see if my LCS would order E Gerber stuff but I'll order online.
I noticed those comics of your have spine toll problems. CGC can fix that for a price otherwise those comics have a lesser value. You bought them from somebody? I hope those comic book stores are not still trying to sell those comics That's one of the reasons I stopped buying them 20 years ago.
@mercenaut Here goes some cheaper micro chamber paper bagsunlimited did the math its cheapest to get micro chamber paper here ^^ then mylites2 & full boards from e gerber. Just spoke with comic store owner who heard from a reliable source micro chamber paper has to be changed every 7 years it craps out after that.
silver age bags and boards will fit in those toploaders, I have all my comics in silver age bages/boards and they fit in the top loaders. silver age boards are 7 by 10.5
air???? that's the problem with plastic sleeves (mylar) can hold AIR and air is not good for paper preservation, air can create humidity and humidity can cause mold.
*DISCLAIMER:* I really don't practice this anymore, especially using Microchamber paper. I'm leaving the video up incase this is something a collector would like to do.
How come you don't use the Microchamber paper anymore?
Where do you get the microchamber paper? Why did you stop using it?
I wanted to ask the same! I wanted to start using micro chambers but then I saw this. I really wanted to know if they are necessary.
why not Microchamber paper anymore???????
I would like to know the same, but i do know one reason some people dont use the microchamber paper is because supposedly where it absorbs all the acid and crap in your book, it just builds up in that paper til it cant hold anymore (imagine a sponge full of water) and then in turn it ends up releasing all that stuff at once at a faster rate than normal into the book, causing more damage in less time than what would have normally happened. Personally i think the best thing you can do for your comics is have them in a good environment and stored in boxes that have lids on top. This will do more than spending massive money on mylars and microchamber paper and all that. I dont care how much mylar and crap u have on them, if you dont have them in a favorable environment/climate, thats gonna do the damage either way. In my opinion, regular poly bags of the max thickness (3mm i think) and double boarding on your more valuable issues will do just fine and u can change them down the road. If your comics are stored in a good environment with lids on them, (even covering up handle holes helps) you wont have to change them near as quick as people say.
This dude is the main reason I'm changing out my entire collection of what I keep in archival type materials. I'll never go back to bags and boards again for issues I wanna keep near mint and those I value. Kudos, homie.
Just wanted to let you know. I'm on board with top loaders.
Me too. We are slowly moving our whole collection over because of this TH-camr.
I'm comfortable doing it like this. If you are't feeling it you can definitely use a backing board. Current-size mylar and current-size HalfBack-- true acid-free board. 7.5 x 11 inch loader.
Great video, I've been using this exact same procedure with the same products for a while now, it took me forever to find the right combination...wish I'd seen your video sooner! My only departure from your process is that I use standard size boards inside the mylites with the books, to make loading/unloading them from the top loaders a bit safer. It does block seeing the back of the book, but for me safety and protection are everything.
This is pretty informative. I recently started collecting singlue issue comics for displaying purposes and this is extremely useful. Cant wait to try it
Very very helpful video, I'm definitely going to rethink how I store my books. Can't wait to get started!
You are putting them in with tape and plastic?
Won't the tape or plastic damage the book from the inside?
Specially if you add more comics tightly inside or on top.
Also are those Comic Top loader Holder 6x9?
The size of a comic book not the size of a card board?
What do you think would happen if you sous vide the comics?
The comics would be tender & succulent
also they sell larger toploaders for silver age
Not sure if you'd know since it's not a comic. But I have some sports illustrated magazines roughly 1/2 cm thick measuring about 8x10.5. What do you think I should get in terms of size for bags and backing boards? Thank you!
Great video!!! I am temporarily using poly bags so I don't have comics laying around with zero protection lol but I am switching to this method soon. I wanna preserve not only my valuable comics buthe also my favorites I plan to display.
Okay, then the My-Lites 2 full and half bags are good for Bronze age comics that are wider, especially the 68 page giant size comics than it would for current size comics that are a bit smaller? Also too can either the My-Lites 2 full and half bags can fit any Silver age comics? As for top loaders i read that only current and Silver age comics will fit well than it would for Bronze age comics is that true? Thanks for the information.
i have first deadpool do you think its better in mylar without board and in the top loader
even that is on the tape, DON'T write with a pen ON THE COMIC! you can leave the marks of your type!
yeah right?? I noticed he is so careful with everything, he does everything so perfect and carefully and then he writes over the comic... I couldn't believe it...
New collector here, how should I store less valuable comics? And what kind and price range of comics should I use this storage method with
I've put a lot of my Silver Age in the toploaders. The Silver Surfers are nearly impossible due to their size, however. I also have them boarded when I top load them. I've not used micro chamber paper before though. That seems like a great idea as my X-men collection needs to be preserved (only missing 1-3).
So what exactly is he using for modern size and what is he using for sliver age size? A comprehensive listing or time stamp would be appreciated.
Thank you for this. I wanted to ask if I use standard size mylars with standard size fullbacks, what is the correct size for toploaders? Lastly is microchamber paper really necessary since they are already in mylars and the toploaders? Thanks again for the video though. I don't know why I like seeing comic books changing to new mylars bags, seems therapeutic to me lol.
Good video. I'm gonna be doing the same thing... dumb question. do you have a preference between bcw and ultra pro toploaders? I saw in the video that you use bcw. not sure if you had a specific reason
Nice video. Do the top loaders come in a larger size that would fit silver size books? if so, what size bag would you have to use? Thanks for the links!
I just started using top loaders for my high, high-end books... Amazing Spider-Man number 2 and so on. I've got it like so: silver bag and board in a top loader. It's snug, but it fits. Any input from anyone on that?
Would the "golden age" top loaders work with egerbers standard size bags/boards? I see the are 8x11 (as opposed to 7.5x11 for the current). Would that .5" make the difference do you think? Great informative video btw!
I am thinking of putting all my books in top loaders too.
But what boxes you use to hold them. Silver age top loaders, they seem wider for regular boxes
What i do is place my standard books in standard 2 mil mylar bags with a
full back board, them stick it into a toploader.
What boxes do i buy to house them
I need to know. thanks
if you're using silver age/golden age top loaders then you'll have two choices, magazine size short/long boxes(used to store magazines) or graded comics short/long boxes. they're both the same width but different in height because obviously one is for graded comics. Hope this help. I'm currently using golden age top loaders and is using graded comics short boxes to store em.
also search, BCW comic book toploaders
Thanks. But the problem i am having is that i cant find Magazine Long boxes or magazine drawer boxes. They would be ideal. Do you have any idea where i could find these online?.
Thanks again.
Great tips. I'm going to change my backing boards now.
great video.I Have a question and i need help-i bought today mylites2 and halfback boards( E.Gerber). I found the boards a bit rough in the surface, not shiny, is that a problem for my comics? is it safe? someone said that they left a dimpled effect on the back cover . i would really appreciate if you helped me. Thank you.
I prefer those harder boards & they leave no dimples on my books from my experience
Thanks. There are definitely larger sizes for toploaders, but im not sure theright size bags that would fit though.
would it damage the comic if i put the comic directly in the toploader without the bag? Please respond. Great vid!
Thanks! I'm trying to learn as much about comics as I can!
Nice video, I recently converted all my better books to Gerber supplies and also microchamber paper....but I have yet to use acid-free tape, I have a hard time believing that there is much acid in the tape and that it would makes its way into the bag...but I might go back an redo the tape on my better books.
The main reason for archival tape is so that the glue doesn't dry out and fall off while in storage. When putting comics in bags, put the spine in first, otherwise, you may catch the front edge. If using toploaders, put the flap on the bottom.
Does the comic slip out easily of the toploader if held upside down?
Would a current size MyLites4 fit into that size toploader?
MERCENAUT Great video and I like your idea.. I just tried this combo with about 50 books, with just the mylar bags and toploaders (no board) ..but when storing my books I'm getting a little worried because of how they stack.. the toploaders are rigid only on the 3 edges which causes the book to curve.. I tried adding some backing boards to make things more sturdier but theres still some waviness. I dont know if maybe I ordered 3 bad batches in a row (from Amazon/BCW brand) or what but I'm thinking of maybe switching to Mylite 4s and full backs. I'm wondering how your books are holding up over time.. any waviness? Thanks.
I'm kinda in the same boat.. i think the answer is going to be getting a box just made for top loaders they they can stand upright
The toploaders will fit in a short box as long as you dont stack the boxes on top of each other..the tops of the loaders are the slightest bit taller then the box. I've been using CGC boxes for mine which are kind of big width wise but it gives you clearance on top.
From being stored snug in the box they've somewhat straightend out over time but I still plan on dropping in a fullback or some standard boards between the mylar and loader just to give it some more rigidness.
What brand is the acid free tape that you use? Is it easy to reopen? I've been using the Scotch brand and it's a little hard to reopen my Mylars with that. Looking for something else to try.
+fightingtyler14 its just artists tape & it can reopen easily
what about for Scotch REMOVABLE tape, is easy to remove, maybe works.
Just picked that avengers issue up yesterday. Man, that's an awesome cover!!
Comics in toploaders look very nice. Great books as well.
Good suggestions. Had some mylites and just ordered some top loaders.
hey i have mylites 2 standar bags with full backs i will need a top loader silver to fit a standar comic for example aquaman new 52?
Just awesome books man. That Iron Man 55 is beautiful! Its funny because I just bought microchamber paper for the first time. I got it off of ebay check it out. Very cool video. Great info. Keep making these videos we need them. I really want full backs bad. I cant find them on ebay. How long do you think they last?
haha! Thanks! The avengers 125 cover is pretty dope, glad i got it when I did!
does it matter if i put my silver age comic books in mylites 4 but without full backs? thanks
whats better current size or standard size
Don't have the funds to do Mylar AND top loader, so if I had to choose one or the other what do you recommend?
You could try a little of both. Top loaders for your most valuable books
I would love to have you're collection.. Just great taste in comics. Keep up with the info my friend. You're a cool dude!
what brand did you buy ???/does it matter what kind?
I want to get mylites for my collection. I am worried that the standard size is going to be too big, but I am worried that some of my books that are a bit thicker won't fit into the current size bags. Do current books fit snugly enough in the standard size?
Modern books fit snug in current size Mylar unless they are an over-sized issue then use standard or bronze size.
Does that brand of top loader yellow with age?
Hey do you guys know if the top loader he uses will fit a silver age mylites2?
will a silver age comic fit in the modern age bags?please respond.
no
what u think i can get full back and my-lite current size that good
Do you go by mercenaut on the cgc boards? I'm aggr1103 over there.
What kind of Top Loader was that?
Great vid. That forum link comparing the boards is a bit of an eye opener. The online shop I order my comics from uses BCW. :(
will a silver age comic fit in this top loader?
He is not using a ball pen so it's ok
I'm a huge fan of mylites. For me the thinner the better
I've been wondering what that paper was for... thanks!
why I feel that you even read the comic? a lot comic collectors even read the comics like the ones that like CGC grade comics.
Thanks! Golden age TL wont do the trick; the mylars will just slide around in them and the comics in the golden age bags will slide around as well. For me, the current sized bags in the standard size top loaders are perfect. & if a Book wont fit in the current bag- even without a board, then I just wont put that book in there and go for a bag that will fit along with a Full-Back backing board. And the Golden age TL wont fit in the regular long box.
If you live near Moore Oklahoma d z comics has the backing board and the bags there
Cool, Nice Job.
It doesnt matter they're all the same, BUT the last two packs of 10 I bought (at different times) where really flimsy; I wasnt comfortable with them & returned them.
So is that a Silver-sized Top Loader? I cannot find that "Current and Silver" version shown in the video. I picked up the current sized top loaders and they are slightly too small, like 1mm, and causes my "current" Mylar 2mill to bunch up in the corners.
+Joseph Piragine might have to search ebay for those silver top loaders.
@@mercenaut Hello Mercenaut, The BCW Silver Age top loaders are 7.25 not 7.5 wide.
Any suggestions?
GREAT VIDEO, thanks a lot
amun6416 For sure! thanks for watching
Thanks so much for this, yeah I'm sick of dealing with comic supply-- My very first order from them a year ago was smooth, so based off that I just kept dealing with them. Again thanks!! yeah , Im looking for ST 115, and now I guess 148!
Great video
I just bought a pack of those boards when I saw that article. I use the BCWs for new books, no problem, but they dont go anywhere NEAR my older stuff! I keep meaning to see if my LCS would order E Gerber stuff but I'll order online.
I cant find full backs at all
when he writing on the tape, it probably leave a mark at the book...
kinwei77 yes. Always avoid writing on books.
where can i get """Top Loaders"""
is this uv protected?
Phillip the 3rd probably not. I wouldn’t leave them near sunlight
thank you for the tip man you have a good chanell
Seems kinda silly to say that the #1 backing board that EVERYONE uses is one you shouldn't use. Your opinion vs. an army.
I know there's a few comments but DON'T WRITE ON THE TAPE WHILE THE COMIC IS UNDER EVEN UNDER MYLAR
ITS BEEN FIVE YEARS NOTHING HAPPENED. Lol
Bags unlimited has microchamber paper - 50 for $20.00
6:28 DISASTER! YOU WRITE ON THE BOOK!!!! WITH A PEN!
Everyone calm down! Its been YEARS since this video- & no disasters
Dont ever do that. in the top loader only, the comic will flop around.
I wanna put all my LDB books in top loaders.
I noticed those comics of your have spine toll problems.
CGC can fix that for a price otherwise those comics have a lesser value.
You bought them from somebody?
I hope those comic book stores are not still trying to sell those comics
That's one of the reasons I stopped buying them 20 years ago.
top loaders are mainly for show, definitely mylars
I think you should write on the tape BEFORE yo put it on the bag.
@mercenaut Here goes some cheaper micro chamber paper
bagsunlimited
did the math its cheapest to get micro chamber paper here ^^ then mylites2 & full boards from e gerber. Just spoke with comic store owner who heard from a reliable source micro chamber paper has to be changed every 7 years it craps out after that.
Thickness of the backing board.
silver age bags and boards will fit in those toploaders, I have all my comics in silver age bages/boards and they fit in the top loaders. silver age boards are 7 by 10.5
The full backs should be good for a real long while. check out hotflipsdotcom for fullbacks, they ship very fast. & thanks!
amazon "comic book top loaders" 7.5x11
air???? that's the problem with plastic sleeves (mylar) can hold AIR and air is not good for paper preservation, air can create humidity and humidity can cause mold.