Yesterday I saw the new cinema-production about the Milli-Vanilli-Project under Frank Farian from the german director Simon Verhoeven. The movie was published under the title "Girl You Know It's True" and illustrates the fine difference between artistic originality and illusion in the music business. The background story about this song, which had advanced to a number-one-world-hit in the cover-version from Milli Vanilli, was interesting and fascinating. Hearing the original version from Numarx is non the less fascinating. At the time of the 1980s the young black Hip-Hop-Band Numarx from Baltimore had very much potential. The fact like the story developed is a vivid example for the importance of advertising and promotion for artistic success. Even it is a great advantage for Musicians to have a strong and influential Label as support. And sometimes it is just a conincidence if a songs hits a nerve.
No it's not, you are just used to the MV version. He didn't do much to the song, just added background singers chorus, and the loop to make it more of a RnB song and not a rap song
The lyrics are Fire!🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥♥️ ( 2:00 🥰, 2:10 ❤ 2:13 ♥️) Such beautiful words😍❤️🔥🥰. ;; This version is sad❤😢❤. Especially the ending...that little nostalgic, "dreamy" sound at the end... it's pure sadness 🥀🥀😢😢 0:59 🥀❤; 2:31 🥰🥀; 2:43 🥀♥️; 2:51 😢🥀; 2:59 🥀; 3:11 😢❤; 3:19 ♥️😢; 3:26 - 3:29 ❤🥀🥀😢; 3:42 - 3:45 😭🥀)
They sued him and they got a cut from the Milli Vanilli record And one of the members studied the game of the music industry because of the stolen record and ended up being an exec at Def Jam Records He made Lemonade out of lemons without even knowing it
What happens in the recently Milli Vanilli movie: “Girl you Know It's True”, is the closest depiction of how shit happened. Fab always put the full blame on Farian and Arista. But there's a known wrestler (at least here in México, called “Vampiro Canadiense”), he says he worked for them as a bodyguard. Chris Jericho always said that wasn't true, but after watching the movie, I know Vampiro is telling the truth. Vampiro said, Arista and Farian agreed to come clean to screw them up and get rid of them in the process without paying them a dime. Arista and Farian had enough of them being complete assholes. Vampiro said all they did during the little free time they had, was acting like complete assholes, getting high, drunk, and having sex. All in all, I think no one here was a victim. All of them, Fab and Rob specially, knew they were playing with fire.
U see? If your 44 or older? When it comes to Milli Vinilli or Vanilla Ice? First thing comes me and most above 44? In Living Color sketches/parodies of both them b4 actual artists
Nemarx released 5000 copies of it. He was a new York based Producer/DJ and songwriter. The Song flopped. One Copy Got in the hands of the German Producer Frank Farian ...the Rest ist History..not enough putting two dancers that didn't sing the Song. He completely stole the Song. Nemarx Got all the royalties and Millions from Frank Farian at court
Frank Farian stated at court that He thought He bought the song.his German attourneys we're supposed to buy the rights. They never Made a contract. Frank Farian is a dickhead.
Nonsense. Farian bought the rights from the owners and could do whatever he wanted with the song. There was never a court case because there was a legally valid contract in which the creatives assigned the rights to Farian.
@@kissesbloody Mistake !!!! Farian never bought anything, copyright always belonged to Farian. But all producers know that thanks to the royalty money Numarx founded a record company called Marx Brothers Records, and that is so because there was an agreement between them. The agreement was precisely because Numarx wanted to denounce Farian after learning of Milli Vanilli's farce.
There is nothing to understand...Frank Farian was a thief; a criminal hiding in an office, who took advantage of people all over the world. Utter skuz....
Ist einer Schlecht nur weil er workaholic ist? Ohne Frank würde keiner Milli vanilli noch New Marx kennen. Verkauft 100 Mio von Tonträger.. hat arme Menschen mit anfang 20 zu Welstars gemacht.. keiner ist perfekt und vielleicht hat jemand gefehlt der die Klarheit und Verständnis zwischen den Parteien bring...und so lange wir alle diese Songs lieben und selber nicht alles live miterlebt haben sollten wir über niemanden Negative urteile angeben finde ich... dafür war es dramatisch genug...ich bin Dankbar für alle die beteiligt waren dass ich diese Musik hören darf... wie Geschenk vom Universum ...RIP Robert Pilatus❤ und Frank Farian❤
It don't matter what it would have sold, it's literally the same exact song as the MV version goofy. And if you want a song you have to pay for it. You think because your ancestors stole everything they have it's ok for you to do it as well?
@@naisi he didn't change instruments goofy, he looped the drums and added the chorus vocals in the middle of the song and not just the end to make it sound more pop or RnBb than Hip Hop/rap
In 1989, Milli Vanilli's cover of this song contributed to their fail. In fact that music project is the greatest music fraud of all times. There are 3 key facts that can prove this: 1) Fab Morvan and Rob Pilatus didn't know the English language very well but in the songs the language was perfect (this means that they were singing in playback). 2) In July 1989, Milli Vanilli were on stage at an amusement park in the USA and they were performing "Girl You Know It's True" but, during the concert, the beginning of the refrain started to repeat itself while Milli Vanilli were going on with their performance. This accident made the spectators discover that they were actually listening to a pre-recorded track on vinyl disc. 3) In order to let the people know the truth behind the duo Milli Vanilli, their producer decided to create a band with the real singers of Milli Vanilli's songs. Because of this, the band was called The Real Milli Vanilli.
Farian hat den Song ein Tick besser gemacht, perfekt auch nicht. Dachte jahrelang Farian hat den Song selber gemacht! Im Film GyKit wird einen dies ja offenbart, das dies eine Cover Version ist. Weil auch in den Medien wurde es nicht oder kaum kommuniziert, das es eine Cover Version eigentlich war. Ich hatte es jedenfalls nie gehört zuvor. Wir alle wollen Geschichten hören und Illusioniert werden, genau das, hatte Farian verstanden. Es wurden 2 Leute größer gemacht, als Sie es musikalisch verdient hatten, dies führte zu psychischen Verwerfungen bei den beiden, sprich Größenwahn, und zum Schluss wurden die beiden dann wieder auf den Boden der Tatsachen zurück geholt. Die beiden waren Farians Kreation. Es war Farians Idee. Es war Farians Musik. Es war Farians Promotion. Wie man auf die Idee kommen kann, das sowas ewig geheim bleiben kann, bei so vielen "Mitwissern" weiß ich auch nicht! Da fragt man sich wirklich, wie Weltfremd, der Farian eigentlich war...oder auch andere..
Farian was a fraud and a liar just like Milli Vanilli and he didn't create anything, he stole everything he had including other peoples music. And btw his version isnt better, he just changed a rap song to an RnB song. That nonsense and Rob n Fab having huge egos that ruined the con is nonsense, it's just used to keep goofies like you from putting the blame where it really belongs, on that fraud Farian
The only phony who really benefited from this was the evil producer Frank Farian, and the other record company execs who got in on it. ALL of the actual artists got screwed, and Rob and Fab took all the blame.
No they sued Farian got Royalties from Milli Vanilli. One became a huge record exc at Def Jam, discovered Toni Braxton and had mad numerous hits with artist like Timbaland and still works in the music industry today
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I'm 47...I was 6th Grade when this MV thing dropped in 89. I NEVER knew this was a song already.
I like this version too lol. Wow. Today years old!
Despite the MV version sounding better, I admire this one for its originality.
87- Numarx
88- Milli vanilli
Yesterday I saw the new cinema-production about the Milli-Vanilli-Project under Frank Farian from the german director Simon Verhoeven. The movie was published under the title "Girl You Know It's True" and illustrates the fine difference between artistic originality and illusion in the music business. The background story about this song, which had advanced to a number-one-world-hit in the cover-version from Milli Vanilli, was interesting and fascinating. Hearing the original version from Numarx is non the less fascinating. At the time of the 1980s the young black Hip-Hop-Band Numarx from Baltimore had very much potential. The fact like the story developed is a vivid example for the importance of advertising and promotion for artistic success. Even it is a great advantage for Musicians to have a strong and influential Label as support. And sometimes it is just a conincidence if a songs hits a nerve.
This song is still the bomb lol
That’s that LL Cool J flow
This version demonstrates the power of the Ashley's Roachclip drum loop...there's a big hole in the sound without it!
True!
No it's not, you are just used to the MV version. He didn't do much to the song, just added background singers chorus, and the loop to make it more of a RnB song and not a rap song
these guys deserve more f** credits.
Oh they got the money they deserve
amazing arrangement, I would never have thought that Mivi Vanili did not compose this song /
excelente cancion
Kevin Lyles was in the band as well as Bill Pettiway who is a DC legend worked w Timbaland for years helped write Cry Me A River
Cry Me A River sounds similar to this song
The lyrics are Fire!🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥♥️ ( 2:00 🥰, 2:10 ❤ 2:13 ♥️)
Such beautiful words😍❤️🔥🥰.
;; This version is sad❤😢❤. Especially the ending...that little nostalgic, "dreamy" sound at the end... it's pure sadness 🥀🥀😢😢
0:59 🥀❤; 2:31 🥰🥀; 2:43 🥀♥️; 2:51 😢🥀; 2:59 🥀; 3:11 😢❤; 3:19 ♥️😢; 3:26 - 3:29 ❤🥀🥀😢; 3:42 - 3:45 😭🥀)
1:11 Outch ! the keyboard...
😆
How did they not sue Farian for everything he was worth? This is nearly identical to MV!
They sued him and they got a cut from the Milli Vanilli record
And one of the members studied the game of the music industry because of the stolen record and ended up being an exec at Def Jam Records
He made Lemonade out of lemons without even knowing it
@@jackyneves9522Lyles.
They actually did and became music executives
They earned royalties from MV
@@jackyneves9522Yep!! Kevin Lyles!! He’s the one rapping on this song
What happens in the recently Milli Vanilli movie: “Girl you Know It's True”, is the closest depiction of how shit happened. Fab always put the full blame on Farian and Arista. But there's a known wrestler (at least here in México, called “Vampiro Canadiense”), he says he worked for them as a bodyguard. Chris Jericho always said that wasn't true, but after watching the movie, I know Vampiro is telling the truth.
Vampiro said, Arista and Farian agreed to come clean to screw them up and get rid of them in the process without paying them a dime. Arista and Farian had enough of them being complete assholes. Vampiro said all they did during the little free time they had, was acting like complete assholes, getting high, drunk, and having sex.
All in all, I think no one here was a victim. All of them, Fab and Rob specially, knew they were playing with fire.
Complete BS story, don't believe a word you just said
Frank Stole everything in his career
He took a song that was good and made it a song that was great.
@@dereinzigwahreschnitzelmann not just 1 song. He is not as brilliant as everyone is saying
The song was already great, goofball
U see? If your 44 or older? When it comes to Milli Vinilli or Vanilla Ice?
First thing comes me and most above 44?
In Living Color sketches/parodies of both them b4 actual artists
Milli vanilli pulled a Cederic the entertainer lol
and a Steve Harvey haha
Baltimore city stars
I remember an even older version of this that was pure rap, no synth music, most definitely on WEBB in the early 80s. Anyone else remember that?
NAh never heard of a older rap version then this 1987 drop
Nemarx released 5000 copies of it. He was a new York based Producer/DJ and songwriter. The Song flopped.
One Copy Got in the hands of the German Producer Frank Farian ...the Rest ist History..not enough putting two dancers that didn't sing the Song. He completely stole the Song. Nemarx Got all the royalties and Millions from Frank Farian at court
Frank Farian stated at court that He thought He bought the song.his German attourneys we're supposed to buy the rights. They never Made a contract. Frank Farian is a dickhead.
Nonsense. Farian bought the rights from the owners and could do whatever he wanted with the song. There was never a court case because there was a legally valid contract in which the creatives assigned the rights to Farian.
@@kissesbloody
Mistake !!!!
Farian never bought anything, copyright always belonged to Farian.
But all producers know that thanks to the royalty money Numarx founded a record company called Marx Brothers Records, and that is so because there was an agreement between them.
The agreement was precisely because Numarx wanted to denounce Farian after learning of Milli Vanilli's farce.
Endlich mal das Originale
Man this version is FIRE!!! We still love Milli Vanilli . Frank Farian was a GENIUS, even though most won’t understand.
Yeah a genius at ripping off other people's shit and disguising it to con you into thinking he created something 😂
There is nothing to understand...Frank Farian was a thief; a criminal hiding in an office, who took advantage of people all over the world. Utter skuz....
This song was singing by Rob and Fab. (Milli Vanilli)
Buy the way, Frank Farian was a bad person.
@@mikeaziz5040absolut richtig 👍
Ist einer Schlecht nur weil er workaholic ist? Ohne Frank würde keiner Milli vanilli noch New Marx kennen. Verkauft 100 Mio von Tonträger.. hat arme Menschen mit anfang 20 zu Welstars gemacht.. keiner ist perfekt und vielleicht hat jemand gefehlt der die Klarheit und Verständnis zwischen den Parteien bring...und so lange wir alle diese Songs lieben und selber nicht alles live miterlebt haben sollten wir über niemanden Negative urteile angeben finde ich... dafür war es dramatisch genug...ich bin Dankbar für alle die beteiligt waren dass ich diese Musik hören darf... wie Geschenk vom Universum
...RIP Robert Pilatus❤ und Frank Farian❤
Was viele nicht wissen: dieser Song wurde von Rob und Fab gesungen. Nurmax hat nur so getan als hätten sie es selbst gesungen.
Was?
😂
Stimmt nicht. Wie kommste denn auf so ne Aussage?
@@Amardia1 Hier, mein „Ironie-Schild“ 🪧
genau so war es
Si es prácticamente igual a la que se grabó después con Mili Vanilli porque no habrá pegado esta canción??
Lo mismo paso con pump up the jam . De technotronics no ea original ya antes habia una version sin exito. Pero no recuerdo quien la tocaba
@@MundoRetroMxGdl Tienes el link'' ? Pásalo
Debe ser que los cantantes no eran los suficientemente atractivos xD
Milli Vanilli era un paquete, música, baile, atractivo..por eso tampoco triunfaron los Real Milli Vanilli, eran básicamente feos.
Por que esta versión nunca salió a el mercado, la robaron cuando era solo un demo
This version was the only one which was true, as soon as it was stolen it was all lies from then on.
LOL @ the cuica samples
Koño Mickey 😧
Did Numarx original get any airplay for this besides DC before Frank Farin stole it?
This song would never had sold 100 records …. This was a bad recording thanks for Farian
It don't matter what it would have sold, it's literally the same exact song as the MV version goofy. And if you want a song you have to pay for it. You think because your ancestors stole everything they have it's ok for you to do it as well?
Speed this to 1.25x and it's an instant Freestyle song. You're welcome.
No one thanked you 🤣
@@RellyOhBoy damn I know
This is good, this should be on the disc as a third track.
SYSK?
Stuff you should know. Best podcast ever.
To be fair, Frank Farian improved on this already great base.
It's literally the same exact song, he made it an RnB song instead of a rap song. That's it
@@unrhu Increased the tempo and changed instrumentation. Which made it better. Don‘t argue with the obvious darling.
@@naisi he didn't change instruments goofy, he looped the drums and added the chorus vocals in the middle of the song and not just the end to make it sound more pop or RnBb than Hip Hop/rap
whos singing?
Nmarx
In 1989, Milli Vanilli's cover of this song contributed to their fail. In fact that music project is the greatest music fraud of all times. There are 3 key facts that can prove this:
1) Fab Morvan and Rob Pilatus didn't know the English language very well but in the songs the language was perfect (this means that they were singing in playback).
2) In July 1989, Milli Vanilli were on stage at an amusement park in the USA and they were performing "Girl You Know It's True" but, during the concert, the beginning of the refrain started to repeat itself while Milli Vanilli were going on with their performance. This accident made the spectators discover that they were actually listening to a pre-recorded track on vinyl disc.
3) In order to let the people know the truth behind the duo Milli Vanilli, their producer decided to create a band with the real singers of Milli Vanilli's songs. Because of this, the band was called The Real Milli Vanilli.
This isn’t groundbreaking news
And milli vanilli robbed her of her fame
Thank you, frank farian
Ah ja und Jack White raubte RAF den Erfolg weil seine Version von Self Control mit Laura Branigan besser war ? So ein Blödsinn
Wow! This band realy performed fantastic 🎉🎉🎉❤ f.kk milli villi
SYSK brought me here. This is the original song that was ripped off by the producer of Milli Vanilli.
난 알아요~ 표절했다는 사실을 나는 알수가 알수가 있어요~
Farian hat den Song ein Tick besser gemacht, perfekt auch nicht. Dachte jahrelang Farian hat den Song selber gemacht! Im Film GyKit wird einen dies ja offenbart, das dies eine Cover Version ist.
Weil auch in den Medien wurde es nicht oder kaum kommuniziert, das es eine Cover Version eigentlich war. Ich hatte es jedenfalls nie gehört zuvor.
Wir alle wollen Geschichten hören und Illusioniert werden, genau das, hatte Farian verstanden.
Es wurden 2 Leute größer gemacht, als Sie es musikalisch verdient hatten, dies führte zu psychischen Verwerfungen bei den beiden, sprich Größenwahn, und zum Schluss wurden die beiden dann wieder auf den Boden der Tatsachen zurück geholt. Die beiden waren Farians Kreation. Es war Farians Idee. Es war Farians Musik. Es war Farians Promotion. Wie man auf die Idee kommen kann, das sowas ewig geheim bleiben kann, bei so vielen "Mitwissern" weiß ich auch nicht! Da fragt man sich wirklich, wie Weltfremd, der Farian eigentlich war...oder auch andere..
Farian was a fraud and a liar just like Milli Vanilli and he didn't create anything, he stole everything he had including other peoples music. And btw his version isnt better, he just changed a rap song to an RnB song.
That nonsense and Rob n Fab having huge egos that ruined the con is nonsense, it's just used to keep goofies like you from putting the blame where it really belongs, on that fraud Farian
The original artist got nowhere while the phonies kept on benefitting, even till today
that's the name of the game, you'll be surprised
The only phony who really benefited from this was the evil producer Frank Farian, and the other record company execs who got in on it. ALL of the actual artists got screwed, and Rob and Fab took all the blame.
He became president of def jam records.
@@im-gi2pg Oh wow, really? Well, that's justice!
No they sued Farian got Royalties from Milli Vanilli. One became a huge record exc at Def Jam, discovered Toni Braxton and had mad numerous hits with artist like Timbaland and still works in the music industry today
Needs less cowbell.
The MV version is much better
Not
These were the actual singers on the Milli Vanilli version!
Bullshit! The real voices of Milli Vanilli were Charles Shaw, John Davis and Brad Howell - not Numarx. This Song was covered by Milli Vanilli!
Nope, they weren't! 😀
No, this is the original version covered after by Milli Vanilli with much more success.
No, the Milli Vanilli version was sung by Charles Shaw, John Davis, and Brad Howell
Wow the Milli vanilli version was not a cover this was blatant rip off.
This version is dry. I woulda stole it and made it better too 😂
Frank Farian had that 💵💵💵 tho... He had all the updated drum machines and racks
This almost sounds like a demo version to the Milli Vanilli track
this original version is so boring. germans can simply make music better.
No Germans are obliviously thieves and liars. Like frank.