THE ENGINEER GOT NERFED | IS THE ACCELERATOR BETTER NOW? -Tower Defense Simulator

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  • @CORSOBLOX
    @CORSOBLOX  ปีที่แล้ว +45

    If you wanna chat with others, ask questions, or suggest videos, consider joining the Blue Head Mafia Discord!
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    Something big that I forgot to take into account is that the Engineer's sentries don't get buffed by the Commander or DJ
    With the Commander's 25% buff, the Accelerator has an average DPS of 260.4125.
    With the ability, the Accelerator has an average DPS of 322.9115
    While the Engineer still has a higher DPS, the Accelerator also benefits from the DJ's range buff, and has a cheaper total cost.
    Considering that the Commander and DJ are used in almost every single game, I'd say that this makes the Accelerator better then the Engineer.

    • @dannynguyen5776
      @dannynguyen5776 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I knew it accel is better than engi🎉

    • @Multiversal.Destroyer
      @Multiversal.Destroyer ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree

    • @pizzabean1181
      @pizzabean1181 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      While everything you said is true, I just want to point out that doing this is more expensive then the engi, but if your playing a duo then someone else could be doing commander and dj and you might only have to place accels, but still it’s more expensive then the engi, also u have to remember the accels trash targeting system and the fact that enemies can leak while it’s charging up, meaning I think that they basically have the same thing going for them. So basically use rather one and it hink they will do the exact same thing. so just remember this next time you play.

    • @samanthea100
      @samanthea100 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      wait wh ydies engi have dead zone

    • @Graytecl
      @Graytecl ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@samanthea100 it always did

  • @PomsonGamingII
    @PomsonGamingII ปีที่แล้ว +26

    A few small mistakes iirc, but great video!
    -Engi's firerate between levels 0 and 2 was 1.5, not 2. This was changed in the Winter 22 update
    -The lvl3 price went from 1600 to 1750, not the other way around
    -Its range at lvl 2 was 18, also changed in the Winter update

  • @calmite
    @calmite ปีที่แล้ว +18

    why did they nerf accel in the first place, the main complaint with engie was that it was more difficult to obtain and not worth it compared to accel, (despite them playing the same role) instead of just making engie more affordable in terms of gems and leaving accel be, below decided to make accel worse and engie slightly better. Engie was designed around the idea that it would be an endgame tower similar to accel, although still not too overpowered nor underpowered to be pushed aside. And they actually somewhat succeeded in terms of the actual stats, you could’ve used accel or engie in a very similar loadout and have a basically indifferent gameplay experience. However, this fragile balance is ruptured by one thing: engie’s gem price. If engie and accel were both 2500, this would most likely be a 50/50 tossup between the 2 options, as they have different usages and techniques to use them most effectively. However, because engie takes almost 2x longer to get, and because they are similar towers, accel is favored by most as the first pick, and those who side with accel tend to devalue engie’s strengths

    • @Deepfriedfish-i8b
      @Deepfriedfish-i8b ปีที่แล้ว

      Most people don't even grind for engi anymore which is sad hopefully it gets a little better

  • @Counteriser
    @Counteriser ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Love your videos, keep it up 👍🏻

  • @TotallyNotABurrito
    @TotallyNotABurrito ปีที่แล้ว +89

    The accel actually has more dps if you take into account support towers. Because the sentries aren't affected by the commander buff, 6 engineers only have a max dps of 2340.417. In comparison, 8 buffed accels have an average dps of 2583.292.

    • @CORSOBLOX
      @CORSOBLOX  ปีที่แล้ว +25

      yup, just made a pinned comment about that

    • @wooden49
      @wooden49 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      When your max dps is less than their average dps

    • @TheUmbraN0tG4ming
      @TheUmbraN0tG4ming ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Engineer is still a better tower than accel being an all rounder able to easily destroy late game and still having the highest dps in the game without needing any supports. And you have to count the fact that engineer needs to be stunned 2 times to loose her sentries meanwhile accel loose his attack and has tk charge ig again instatly. So engineer comes better due to accel needing just too many supports

    • @redbool1115
      @redbool1115 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@wooden49 my guy who the hell doesn’t bring commander and dj 💀💀 and in hardcore’s case, medic

    • @JackTheDog795
      @JackTheDog795 ปีที่แล้ว

      You will never have a max dps for accel and engi

  • @ducks_meme_hub
    @ducks_meme_hub ปีที่แล้ว +50

    Engi got ruined. The devs could easily just have reduced war machine sentry damage by 1 or 2 to balance it. Not remove an entire 100 dps

    • @randomyoutuber4189
      @randomyoutuber4189 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      “Reduced war machine sentry damage by 1 or 2 damage to balance it”
      💀

    • @nicolasmazzotti4578
      @nicolasmazzotti4578 ปีที่แล้ว

      She lost only 95 dps man is not that bad she had too much cost per dps efficency and she needed to be nerfed and she is still better than accel whitout supports by a good amount

    • @feb4657
      @feb4657 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@nicolasmazzotti4578 what about the 4500 gems you need for a tower that is worse than 8 accelerators buffed

    • @redbool1115
      @redbool1115 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@nicolasmazzotti4578 who the hell doesn’t bring support

    • @VVooshbait
      @VVooshbait ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@nicolasmazzotti4578 you need supports bro 💀

  • @OscarZheng50
    @OscarZheng50 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    yeah the engineer got a huge nerf but the accel got a bigger nerf, back in the old days it used to do 375 max dps, its now 247. the engi lost about 90 dps while accel lost 128 potential dps

    • @cCookiees
      @cCookiees ปีที่แล้ว

      Meanwhile rng screwing u up and the accel doing way less dps

  • @nathanchen5375
    @nathanchen5375 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I purposefully grinded for engineer instead of buying accelerator which took so many more hours of grinding... and now I regret it... hopefully they realize their mistake and buff the engineer back up again, or at least make the gem price cheaper for it.

  • @Craziedude00
    @Craziedude00 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thaanks for the explanation man ❤

  • @MrEndo
    @MrEndo ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Accel ofc got also the advantage that commander boost makes his dps better than a commander boosted engineer if i calculated it right

  • @Boy-uz6oq
    @Boy-uz6oq ปีที่แล้ว +5

    i feel like the Engineer and Accel must have more competition,because them are soo overused in too many strats and setups,i think giving the oportunity to other towers to shine would be better,and also make it a lil easier to get them since is a very tedious work to get them

    • @buggah4947
      @buggah4947 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i spent 5 days of grinding 10 hours each day just for it to get nerfed so hardly that no one even uses it

  • @pd_heart
    @pd_heart ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is actually a very informative video, I enjoyed it very much and I understood everything!

    • @CORSOBLOX
      @CORSOBLOX  ปีที่แล้ว

      glad you enjoyed 🤝

  • @agiota4395
    @agiota4395 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    in my opnion the accel is better than engineer now , accel can get buffs from dj and commander and in future 20% damage buff from war machine and sentrys cant gets buffs , i literally lose 4,5k gems now

    • @agiota4395
      @agiota4395 ปีที่แล้ว

      i try 6 lvl 4 engineers vs wave 26 and i lose , in another game i place 2 accel ( one lvl 3 and one lvl 4 ) i survive

    • @Maria_Rosecleide
      @Maria_Rosecleide ปีที่แล้ว

      ​why would u place 6 level 3 engis place 6 level 5 engis

    • @Maria_Rosecleide
      @Maria_Rosecleide ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@agiota4395 thats wrong

    • @agiota4395
      @agiota4395 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Maria_Rosecleide i have prints to prove

    • @agiota4395
      @agiota4395 ปีที่แล้ว

      1 accel lvl 3 + 1 accel lvl 4 > 6 lvl 4 engineers
      total cost accels 26,5k ( beat wave 26 )
      total cost engineers 38,4k ( lose at weve 26 )

  • @TheSquareEngineer
    @TheSquareEngineer ปีที่แล้ว +5

    People that use both Engineer and Accelerator:oh no!
    Anyways
    Btw I was the guy named Edenir in your last match before the update

  • @yeahtiny
    @yeahtiny ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for informing me!

    • @CORSOBLOX
      @CORSOBLOX  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad I could help

  • @teapeakay
    @teapeakay ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Im neutral on the pursuit since it gets MORE dps at lower levels and at max, at the cost of hidden detection, but its always kinda been a supporting dps tower so it syncs well with accel/g mini/turret.

  • @whentheandtheyeah7206
    @whentheandtheyeah7206 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    while i hated the engineer for being the most costly hardcore tower for what it's worth, i dont think this hard of a nerf was required for it. losing straight 100 dps deadass. tbh like a 50 dps loss would be somewhat more easier to gauge. also maybe bringing accel somewhat back to his former glory. 243 dps max isn't that great, but maybe changing it closer to 400 would make it more better. considering you are paying more in total for all of the 8 accels together, you should have more dps than 6 maxed engineers.

  • @PCreeperStudios
    @PCreeperStudios ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Bro engineer costs 4500 gems bro of course it should be overpowered, now its basically outclassed by accelerator which costs 2000 gems less 💀💀💀

  • @mavermitchell
    @mavermitchell ปีที่แล้ว +1

    to make engineer worth it, all the devs would have to do would make the sentrys units and detect hiddens or not even detect hiddens because of ace.

  • @JustAGuy1298
    @JustAGuy1298 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I don't like this nerf as engineer was balanced having around 450 dps for twice the gem price as accelerator but now it has about 1.5 times accelerator's dps for about twice as many gems as accelerator.
    I think the annoying to grind engineer should be better then accelerator also if you take commander into count accelerator is buffed a lot more then engineer by dj and commander overall making engineer not worth which sucks as i thought i had a reason to not grind coins for gold scout and minigunner

  • @ardweeno
    @ardweeno ปีที่แล้ว +2

    the way the dps is calculated on the wiki is kinda inaccurate imo, if you calculate it as dmg / firerate then, the accelerator has a higher total dps

    • @nataliar.5902
      @nataliar.5902 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yes because you are not calculating Charge up time and such

  • @ikeweidman749
    @ikeweidman749 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    Big chungus is my spirit animal

  • @redbool1115
    @redbool1115 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Absolute garbage change, if you want people to have more variety between her and accelerator than why make her almost double the price of accel??? That’s like balancing golden soldier to be more comparable to normal soldier. It shouldn’t be a damn contest on who is better, and yet now the accelerator is better with buffs in mind

  • @bingus9577
    @bingus9577 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    R.i.p people that grinded for enginner

    • @Empouror
      @Empouror ปีที่แล้ว

      Engineer is so crap in pizza party it make my grind almost shit

    • @itspro8538
      @itspro8538 ปีที่แล้ว

      It will get buff again dw. Dev will rebalance

    • @VVooshbait
      @VVooshbait ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@itspro8538they won't, however accel will get a buff so we don't need engi fraud anymore

  • @HoangAnhTuan681
    @HoangAnhTuan681 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Damn. This made me feel sadly for engineer

  • @Rotonfriend2000
    @Rotonfriend2000 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nerf was not required or needed and pursuit should get stealth detection back

  • @FrankEpicness
    @FrankEpicness ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just wished her range in early levels weren't changed :p just slightly inconvenient. Am still gonna try to get to wave 50 in hc solo cuz gsoldier wasn't nerfed(surprised XD he's a bit good)

  • @DuckyMapping
    @DuckyMapping ปีที่แล้ว +2

    BelowNatural: Hmm, a tower with 450 DPS... Raz, what are the requirements for Engineer?
    Razuatix: 4500 Gems
    BelowNatural: How long does it take to get?
    Razuatix: Insane people get it in... 3 days.
    BelowNatural: Aaaand we have no other gem towers?
    Razuatix: Well, we have the Accelerator
    BelowNatural: The DPS on that?
    Razuatix: 260
    BelowNatural: Aaand how much does that cost?
    Razuatix: 2500 gems
    BelowNatural: Hmmmm, any other ways to get Engineer?
    Razuatix: a sh*t tonne of robux
    BelowNatural: Well, since people bought it with robux... Lets nerf it...
    Razuatix: Like how we gave Executioner a skin for them getting it without robux, just, the inverse?
    BelowNatural: Yup! We punish people for their hard work and make the cheaper one better!
    Razuatix: Genius! You're a genius!
    BelowNatural: Introducing the new Engineer rebalance! Where we make Accelerator better than it
    Literally everyone: WHY IS THE CHEAPER ONE BETTER THAN THE MORE EXPENSIVE ONE
    BelowNatural: Oh guys, don't worry! It's TDS Logic!

  • @Dom5S
    @Dom5S ปีที่แล้ว

    Is new engi level 2 on max sentries a typo?
    1:17

  • @cryptxe
    @cryptxe ปีที่แล้ว

    New subscriber, GG

    • @CORSOBLOX
      @CORSOBLOX  ปีที่แล้ว

      welcome to the blue head mafia 🤝

  • @Weskingtime
    @Weskingtime ปีที่แล้ว +2

    honestly they're balancing is pretty lame imo engineer cost's 4,500 gem's sometime's you can't or can beat fallen with it and pretty much felt like fun but bad tower to use, if they could make like per 1 engineer she can spawn 6 sentries and placement limit to 8 it would just be perfect cuz remember grinding for engineer take's alot of time

  • @gu12369
    @gu12369 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think they should had just nerfed her late game dps, and still with 4 sentries and somehow make her lose only like 50 dps. Cuz her things of "all hole" its a lie, cuz she doenst have enough damage for this "all hole". She does shoot ballons but dont have enough damage, hidden she does have it but they still pass from her. Her main reason of be a viable tower was the fact that she could handle waves with her machines. Now she is not even worth for it. So basically she became a 2nd option when she was supposed to be a main tower. Now you can use a Golden mini gunner that will be a better dps tower than her when it was not supposed to be.

  • @perkmin88
    @perkmin88 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is golden minigunner the best (solo/duo) tower now?

  • @Volsilly
    @Volsilly ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i think it was too much since its sentries are not buffed by commander it just feels over priced having to spend almost double the amount of time grinding to get it with there not being much of a difference between the strength of them

  • @YeetusPlayz
    @YeetusPlayz ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think this nerf is too much. Reason why is because as you mentioned in the comment section the sentries don't get buffed by commander and DJ possibly making the engineer worse than accelerator. I'm not saying that I think the engineer should be better cause that's the one I have, (I don't have any of them) but because it costs almost twice as much.

  • @ricardoblikman2676
    @ricardoblikman2676 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    When i play 4x6 engineers you wipe maps making max 4 or 5 engineers would have been enough to nerf. I dont understand why you can have only 4 croock bosses but 6 engineers or 8 accels. The engineer is too allround i understand but the tower itself deals bad damage and if you dont max turrets they are not too strong.

  • @junoverse7707
    @junoverse7707 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Lets be real, engi cost 4,500 gems which is very pricey and accel being better than engi now
    With supports and stuff
    I dont see why they would nerf a tower that should be like the best tower despite its cost in gems
    Ill put it this way.
    I think engi should be better than accel if its way more gems bc engi wouldnt even be worth grinding for if theres a stronger and cheaper tower aka accel for gems
    Maybe the devs just dont know what to do with engi just like motar
    Just an opinion.

  • @ShadowerzTheFreedomSpreader
    @ShadowerzTheFreedomSpreader ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My theory for why all these towers are getting nerfed: people will mot stop cheesing or soloing hardcore and it does not make the devs happy , so they think by netting every tower it won't be possible anymore.

    • @ShadowerzTheFreedomSpreader
      @ShadowerzTheFreedomSpreader ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Before the accelerator nerf it had insane dps that helped with soloing hardcore. Suspiciously, after a few of those videos came out, the "rebalance" update came.

    • @Yeetv1
      @Yeetv1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I also believe it's the response of below asking us to have more variety on towers other than the average engineer and accelerator loadout

    • @VVooshbait
      @VVooshbait ปีที่แล้ว

      I think it's about varity, now you have to ask urself if you want to use accel, engi, ranger, pursuit or gmini, its no longer just 100% of the time accel

  • @fandyboi
    @fandyboi ปีที่แล้ว +1

    in my opinion engineeg should still be able to spawn 4 turrets they could jsut lower the dps on turrets to somewhere like 75-90 dps

    • @VVooshbait
      @VVooshbait ปีที่แล้ว

      still would lose 100 dps lmao

    • @foxtroll9095
      @foxtroll9095 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@VVooshbait atleast it is still good in some cases name a tower that has a shield and protect from enemy stuns

  • @nugo344
    @nugo344 ปีที่แล้ว

    Engineer is still MUCH better than accel when you are plsying solo, or duo with a noob. This is because it can compete with accel without buffs meaning if your main dps tower is engi, you honestly dont really need coa wich creates space for other towers. It is also mich more reliable than accel since it can target anything in the game and deals splash damage. Soloing with accel is a risk bc it can leak fast enemies easily and relies on a good map, or other towers. Another thing to consider is that choosing engi over accel means you have 2 spots for other towers wich means more dps.

  • @giorgitsikhishvili1133
    @giorgitsikhishvili1133 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I free grinded engi and now I regret it 😢😢😢

  • @maxne55_66
    @maxne55_66 ปีที่แล้ว

    the increase in engi DPS would make it better against hidden/flying enemies tho

  • @keney29010
    @keney29010 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    From the perspective of a person who legit got engineer yesterday, you can imagine my surprise when I saw that the engineer was ruined and that it lost its early game potential.
    Honestly, this nerf is way too much, before it could at least compete with pursuit and accel, but now? It's a worthless piece of crap that isn't even that good as a late game tower.
    Something similar happened to me when I got cowboy, 2 days after I got it badlands II came out and with that came reworked cowboy which was ACTUALLY good unlike actual engineer, I needed 2 more gems to get engineer, I got it and boom! Engineer nerfed into oblivion. I thought it'd be worth it to get engineer, but now I think that I wasted 2 months worth of time.
    My disappointment is inmesurable💀

    • @SpekkaYt
      @SpekkaYt ปีที่แล้ว

      Bro that thing still does 300+ dps. Its far from a piece of trash. Its has better dps than 98% of the tower in game. The early game is only trash part. A

    • @keney29010
      @keney29010 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SpekkaYt guess you're right, it's just that engineer used to be better. Just imagine a 400 dps tower losing 100 dps from out of nowhere.
      That's just shocking

    • @SpekkaYt
      @SpekkaYt ปีที่แล้ว

      @@keney29010 I get what you mean, but still a fun tower to use. But we’ll just have to see how good the mecha base, and the hacker tower is, if they ever come out

  • @BaconNoobGaming
    @BaconNoobGaming ปีที่แล้ว

    reason why nerf wasn't deserve the nerf was a huge decrease also making accel the best tower in the game also it might to better at hiddens and flying the nerf still sucks like the also modes like PW2 and HC are way harder due to engineer's nerf and probably quick draw is almost impossible engi's nerf made a lot of modes so hard

  • @YrumY
    @YrumY 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    And now, it can place 4 sentries again.

  • @sc748
    @sc748 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Accelerator is better I think because practically speaking every match has a commander and accelerators get a huge buff from those as compared to engineers

    • @rey_218
      @rey_218 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep the sentry cant get any buff from support,plus u can place 8 accel while engi only 6

  • @TriggerzConnors
    @TriggerzConnors ปีที่แล้ว

    The reason engineer got nerfed is just on sentry and leaked the enemies pass through during fallen solo

  • @SamQuaintanceYes-bi5on
    @SamQuaintanceYes-bi5on ปีที่แล้ว

    Tbh maybe find a middle like bring back the 4 sentries but nerf the engis dps, and it should be better than accel because it costs 2 4500 gems or 4k robux.

  • @matin3142
    @matin3142 ปีที่แล้ว

    I mean engineer nerf is 454.5 dps to 359.44
    engineer's nerf was needed because it killed the purpose of accelerator, accelerator's purpose was to be a focused-DPS tower, while Engineer also still has high DPS, it cannot be stunned and has splash dmg to make it better than accel in crowd control or in killing breakers but when it comes to killing bosses like fallen king, nuclear monster, etc then Accelerator is better in that situation. They called it rebalance because they buffed engineer's damage and took away 1 sentry and they also made engineer's upgrades cheaper

    • @mohamedcraft2455
      @mohamedcraft2455 ปีที่แล้ว

      True but the reason why we are upset is bc that sentries cant be supported witch means that a 2500 gem tower is better then engi that costs 4500 and getting gems isnt an easy mission

    • @matin3142
      @matin3142 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mohamedcraft2455 like I said, what do you expect from a tower thats focused-DPS, accelerator is a raw DPS tower while Engineer is the jack of all trades

    • @mohamedcraft2455
      @mohamedcraft2455 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@matin3142 on my experience, ppl rely on accel more then engi , and they have engi too they just dont use it bc of the fsct that sentries cant be buffed
      I think to fix this engi should be more creative , like some sentries do diffrent things like synergies yk what I mean?

    • @mohamedcraft2455
      @mohamedcraft2455 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@matin3142 I was sad at first but after an hour is meh the thing is I dont wanted to be annoyed by those players who negs for accels rather then engi , bcuz I use engi for fun and I dont want something fun slowly goes off meta bc of a 2500 gem cost accel

  • @honeybeeflower1350
    @honeybeeflower1350 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this is normal to me
    cuz the boss keep getting demolish
    also the bad is people still still trying to get quickdraw ;-;

    • @aaatds
      @aaatds ปีที่แล้ว

      pretty sure its fine because in winter 22 update accel got nerfed but we still demolished gunslinger in a matter of seconds with a pretty fast time of 16:36

  • @nicolasmazzotti4578
    @nicolasmazzotti4578 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think this balances engi up makes her have only a little bit more dps when maxed out but now accel whit proper support is better

    • @TheUnholyToast1
      @TheUnholyToast1 ปีที่แล้ว

      It shouldn't be better tho. Engi costs a whole 2k more gems like it should be way better than accel.

    • @nicolasmazzotti4578
      @nicolasmazzotti4578 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheUnholyToast1 Engi is usable early game+ cant be stunned+ no chargeup+fly detect + splash dmg + requires a lot less supports than accel to be good

    • @TheUnholyToast1
      @TheUnholyToast1 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nicolasmazzotti4578 first of all, no one doesn't bring supports, secondly, engi is NOT usable early. It does horrible on the early waves and it's just better to use an actual early game tower like g scout etc.

    • @nicolasmazzotti4578
      @nicolasmazzotti4578 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheUnholyToast1 you get no stuns no chargeup at the cost of only 300 dps + fast enemyes dont get past her

    • @nicolasmazzotti4578
      @nicolasmazzotti4578 ปีที่แล้ว

      And requires less map space too and she can do pretty easily early def

  • @Goldenapple6000
    @Goldenapple6000 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Me:*brings my shotgun and find's the person who wants to nerf engineer and pursuit*

  • @redbool1115
    @redbool1115 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    You missed the fact that accelerator gets buffed by supports way better than engineer

  • @redbool1115
    @redbool1115 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mortar next? He got absolutely ruined

  • @hadijahabutazil9132
    @hadijahabutazil9132 ปีที่แล้ว

    For those who wondering why they nerfed it it's because TH-camrs are making a video about solo hardcore that's the reason why below nerf accel,engineer,mortar, rocketeer and removed fungi island

    • @itspro8538
      @itspro8538 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bro devs are dumb, ain’t they? If they keep making things hard, people will leave the game soon. They can add more mode, more map instead. Add more towers we will buy. Add limited towers, limited skins we will buy. We will grind. I’m kinda tired of playing fallen, molten. Why don’t they make an infinite mode bruh

    • @VVooshbait
      @VVooshbait ปีที่แล้ว

      good thing they will buff accel now lez go

  • @soldiertf2832
    @soldiertf2832 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just a God dam 're-balance'
    Normal Player:I use Engineer instead of Golden Pyromancer, Accelator and Golden Minigunner.
    Me:USE ALL OF THEY!!!

  • @xwgc4433
    @xwgc4433 ปีที่แล้ว

    Engineer is still really good, now he can deal with flying enemies, hiddens, an dleads with more ease making it more reliable then the accel.

    • @2yxk
      @2yxk ปีที่แล้ว

      Engi can still hit those before the nerf

  • @jurbyremotin3117
    @jurbyremotin3117 ปีที่แล้ว

    I hope the devs make engi price like 3.5k or 4k :/

  • @Xb0x_XR
    @Xb0x_XR ปีที่แล้ว

    I use accel and engineer and as long as the dps is good then it works

  • @RoninSamurai4785
    @RoninSamurai4785 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Me who uses pursuit and golden minigunner: MY GOALS ARE BEYOND YOUR UNDERSTANDING

  • @proman-xh9fv
    @proman-xh9fv ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I am very mad I got engineer and was very happy till I found out it got nerfed I’m very disappointed Accelerator Is Better

  • @bridgetmatthews8220
    @bridgetmatthews8220 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    you forgot about accelerator beeping buffed by commander.

  • @nashozz3610
    @nashozz3610 ปีที่แล้ว

    Honestly you know that you need a high DMG unit in your best set so agree and continue farming for engineer because 6 engineer and 8 accelerator 1666.64 < 2154.64 Dps
    Engineer is just better

  • @bobeyay
    @bobeyay ปีที่แล้ว

    I think they should have just change it back to violent night engi.

  • @FortifiedBastion
    @FortifiedBastion ปีที่แล้ว +1

    wow I grind 4500 gems and it gets nerfed hard to the ground how shit man

  • @thecowman1590
    @thecowman1590 ปีที่แล้ว

    You should do which one's better the crook or the cowboy?

  • @RobloxGuy2908
    @RobloxGuy2908 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So 8 accels have the same dps with 10 Pursuits?

  • @inigochicano
    @inigochicano ปีที่แล้ว

    We're back to when the engineer was first released yet was still garbage compared to accelerator despite costing more, then they buffed engi just to nerf her again 💀

  • @usercorruptedcold
    @usercorruptedcold 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think engineer should get a very very big buff for how expensive it is

  • @KomoDildoDa
    @KomoDildoDa ปีที่แล้ว

    I think engineer better, also sad what it got nerfed (i got it only now and dont realise this got nerfed bc dont test it) but also, who say i cant take them both? And when i got accels/engineers limit place other?

  • @MinGer-j3u
    @MinGer-j3u ปีที่แล้ว +1

    in my opinion engi deserve some little bit nerf before but this was little bit much lol

    • @MinGer-j3u
      @MinGer-j3u ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Rif372 well before it was little bit too op isn't it the sentry didn't get stun and one sentry is rlly high dmg it self tho

    • @MinGer-j3u
      @MinGer-j3u ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Rif372 as i said its just my opinion

    • @would_be_eons
      @would_be_eons ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Rif372 it's 1.80x more expensive than the accel, which would mean to damage would not be doubled. 350 dps is accurate for it's price unlike if it costs 5000 gems, which would be doubled to 410.5 to 430. Engineer in it's current state is balanced for it's priced.

    • @HelpMyCatBarked
      @HelpMyCatBarked ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@would_be_eons finally someone with a brain

  • @2yxk
    @2yxk ปีที่แล้ว

    People with both engi and accel: ok ig?

  • @Barix14
    @Barix14 ปีที่แล้ว

    Honestly they could buff dmg of engi to 60-80 on max and that would br fair

  • @xamomilis8048
    @xamomilis8048 ปีที่แล้ว

    to my mind they should balance the engineer so that: accel=engi (also lower the price in gems)

  • @Timely7
    @Timely7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This makes me sad honestly, I love engi and she is still somewhat good but I think removing a turret was too harsh. her turrets already do not get buffed by DJ or Commander so I think this butered her in what she can can do. Ofc she's slightly better than accel but adding commander in the picture accel is just right out better now, this makes me sad. I also hated how accl doesn't do constant damage as it flucates I think that is just plain stupid, this is why I liked engi because her damage is constant it doesn't go up or down. the dps she outputs is what she outputs exactly unlike accel where it goes up and down. Overall I am sadden by this, I understand why the devs did this but the compensation for the nerf wasn't enough. I think if the devs tomorrow gave engi a placement of 7 instead of 6 then I would say that'd justify a little bit to these harsh nerfs.

  • @RoninSamurai4785
    @RoninSamurai4785 ปีที่แล้ว

    This nerf should reduce the cost in the shop to around 3600 gems change my mind

    • @7atomboyz7
      @7atomboyz7 ปีที่แล้ว

      3000-3300 would be fair tho

  • @bingus9577
    @bingus9577 ปีที่แล้ว

    What i should get accel or a golden crate i have 850 gems and 20000 coins

  • @LifesCookies
    @LifesCookies ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m pretty sure everyone knows accel was already better than engi by default

  • @ilikenothing488
    @ilikenothing488 ปีที่แล้ว

    YOUR THE BEST 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

  • @tenorioj4105
    @tenorioj4105 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    They removed the hidden detection form pursuit 💀

  • @ASTOR_BACKTRACKER
    @ASTOR_BACKTRACKER ปีที่แล้ว

    They need to make engi like 3k gems or 2k gems for the nerf. Or they need to buff

  • @damuurs
    @damuurs ปีที่แล้ว

    if engineer is still better than accel then I think it's deserved but as the tower is expensive and minus well stick to engineer if you don't have the time for grinding.

  • @whatamisupposedtodoput
    @whatamisupposedtodoput ปีที่แล้ว

    They did engineer dirty with the price and making accelerator better

  • @theinvisibleg9837
    @theinvisibleg9837 ปีที่แล้ว

    People in the comment whom fight over using accelerator and enginner
    Me:”who use both of em” 🗿 🍷

  • @mamluksultanateball
    @mamluksultanateball ปีที่แล้ว

    Corso why don't you count the commander buff commander buffs accel better than engi wich makes it better

    • @CORSOBLOX
      @CORSOBLOX  ปีที่แล้ว

      yeah, forgot about that. I’ve made a pinned comment addressing that

  • @bennahamilton6703
    @bennahamilton6703 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hmmmm they added the update on one of the sussiest days of the year..

  • @7atomboyz7
    @7atomboyz7 ปีที่แล้ว

    1. Sentries still have no hidden detection (+point to accelerator)
    2. Accelerator can target lock whenever he is on range decrease effected by boss if wasn't stunned
    (+point to accelerator)
    3. Can be supported by commander and dj
    (+point to accelerator)
    4. in general, 3rd level accelerator js better than 3rd level engineer. And also 4th level too, 5th level is not compatible
    (± point to accelerator)
    The only thing that engineer has unique is fly detection and lead penetration

    • @mortar9954
      @mortar9954 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Target lock for accel makes it terrible for leaks

    • @balls5674
      @balls5674 ปีที่แล้ว

      accel target lock, accel charge up time.

  • @Multiversal.Destroyer
    @Multiversal.Destroyer ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Accelerator is better then engineer now tbh he does more dps with commander

  • @minisasa134
    @minisasa134 ปีที่แล้ว

    Community: engineer costs 4K robux and 4.5K gems, it should be worth its cost to obtain
    Devs: nerf engineer ok 👍
    Never change tds

  • @idonttalknowpleasestay309
    @idonttalknowpleasestay309 ปีที่แล้ว

    Engineer gets nerfed: ACCEL BETTER?!
    Accel gets nerfed: ENGINEER BETTER?!

  • @R4YYYY
    @R4YYYY ปีที่แล้ว

    i like how people said to nerf engi cuz accel got nerfed and the devs did what they said, and the players are now crying because of the nerf

    • @7atomboyz7
      @7atomboyz7 ปีที่แล้ว

      The more people are banging to nerf those towers, the more they're getting far from triumphing PWII

    • @R4YYYY
      @R4YYYY ปีที่แล้ว

      @@7atomboyz7 so true

    • @Yeetv1
      @Yeetv1 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@㋡ atomboyz ㋡ anything is possible in tds, even with nerfs lol

  • @hogcycle4413
    @hogcycle4413 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    first!
    i am first to comment right?

  • @would_be_eons
    @would_be_eons ปีที่แล้ว +1

    it's 1.80x more expensive than the accel, which would mean to damage would not be doubled. 350 DPS is accurate for it's price unlike if it costs 5000 gems, which would be doubled up to 410 - 440. Engineer in it's current state is balanced for it's price.
    + Hacker is coming to tds costing gems so stop crying you wimps

  • @shvisers8115
    @shvisers8115 ปีที่แล้ว

    I did math
    Engineer lost approximately 95.06 DPS

  • @bacongamingyt6020
    @bacongamingyt6020 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My disappointment is immeasurable, and my day is ruined

  • @XxMexicoHubxX
    @XxMexicoHubxX ปีที่แล้ว

    Accel: i come back…

  • @catte_X3
    @catte_X3 ปีที่แล้ว

    They should buff engi but make it really expensive

  • @WHAT-IS-DISTANCE
    @WHAT-IS-DISTANCE ปีที่แล้ว

    She deverse tbh bc accel is also suck after rebalanced and after engi got rebalanced/nerf,it made a fair point both of them are good and bad

  • @crewisgone4820
    @crewisgone4820 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really dont know why engi got nerfed to the point where accel is better, even though engi cost more to unlock, all though still good

  • @gamingdoge123
    @gamingdoge123 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    4,500 gems for this? You're better off using demo-men at this point

    • @Yeetv1
      @Yeetv1 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's way easier to gain gems than you think, there's a strategy where you can gain 500+ gems per hour. The only reason it took a few weeks for me was because I took it the slow way cause I'm lazy lol.