You can tell this “copying stuff from others” worked perfectly for Flume, because his sound is so recognizable yet unique. He doesn’t sound like anything else. I remember listening to his debut album for the first time, and being like… “What is this? Some kind of dubstep, wonky, grime, future garage?”. He sounded like all of that combined, but like nothing else I’ve heard before. I even remember seeing him tagged as trip hop in some websites, lol. In summary, he’s pioneer and the creator of a sound and style.
He’s 100% worth checking out. Hes got a super unique and distinct sound. Hi This Is Flume is a record I definitely recommend to listen to first. His latest album he dropped is good also but its a little more on the commercial side (which isnt a bad thing) HTIF record is just a little more raw and unscripted (and also menacing af🔥)
@@MC24DB wrong. I just looked up his body of work and I've literally never heard a single thing he's ever been a part of. Tbh I really don't care about "future bass" at all
1:16. Yee. I legit learned how to copy flume for a few months just to apply it to dubstep. So far, it’s kinda trippy. Like, you expect neuro sounds for fills and stuff. Meanwhile I’m slapping in like alien sword clinks and Tom fills with so much distortion, it sounds like the track got hit by a car for a second….honestly the ladder is the sickest thing ever. It’s on like say it or whatever. It’s so insane sounding to have a really melodic and wet track, and to cut everything to silence for a fill of a crunchy chaotic, atonal ass “badabumchickabum” for a second. And, if anything, ripping off flumes sound for a bit has taught me how to apply contrast to justify anything. And how to make organic ass sounds. My sound design prior to this was very au5. So tuned comb filters, band rejects. Clean wave tables. Pretty much, “entering lightspeed” style fills. Flumes sounds are more like “I found this under a rock, in the forest, covered in ants and bugs. Isn’t it neat?” Fuck, I rely on analogies too much. Uuh. So usually, his sounds are basic sounds but, processed environmentally. So he’ll put a simple sin pluck and some noise into a room ( a shit ton of reverb) and make is aggressive (distortion and down sampling). Than mod the room and the aggressiveness. Opposed to modding the actual source. So, you get a sense of broader movement from a simpler workflow. It is less clean, and he does contrast these insane and organic sounds with trippy synthesized clean sounds. But, what sets this dude apart is the fact that has a dope sense of environment, and knows that changing the characteristics of said environment completely changes the perspective and feel of even the simplest of inputs.
I love analogies btw, it definitely helps me communicate and understand what the person is saying or helps me help someone understand what I’m saying lol analogy is like music itself, the more music genres you know how to make, the more people you can communicate with 😂 that might’ve been a bad analogy
I believe his little monologue at the end about copying ideas for inspiration is the meaning behind his song ESCAPE with Kucka and Quiet Bison . Watch the music video. When the two birds connect and inject data across this tether that connects their mouths
Most bedroom producers have no idea how important and valuable this message is. I've talked to huge bands in my time in the music industry, who said that they completely ripped off smaller indie the local acts that didn't make it, Yeah Yeah Yeahs for example. I heard a live recording of the band they ripped off, it's shocking, you think they'd sue them. Nirvana 100% got their sound from another band FFS. It's really hard to find recordings of this other band from Seattle, but when you hear it, it's unmistakable. Wish I could remember the name, but Kurt admitted it just before he died. They completely ripped off this other band's sound. If you heard them, you'd think it was Nirvana, just with bad lyrics. The same goes for electronic music. There are about 50 electronica house acts that most people would not be able to tell apart.
Reverse engeneering stuff is the fastest way to evolve in a predetermined direction. I think it's a good thing to set your mind on what sound you feel at home in. It's there you will feel free and fearless in your creativity. (and now everyone will judge my music harshly) 😅
You can listen to the full version on Spotify etc but due to TH-cams copyright policy we can't upload the full vids. They will be coming to our Patreon very soon though!
@@jasongravely7217 I sense sarcasm in your post but i’m actually very serious. Most of the best flume productions I’ve heard are remixes and his advice is purely hackish. Flying lotus comes to mind
He’s saying for people just starting out to copy others so that they can learn the mechanics of how everything works, and then they can use what they’ve learned to come up with their own sound. I don’t think he’s suggesting to rip an artist off and release the music as your own.
I think your missing the point my man. This is something that comes up again and again when you listen to interviews with major artists. They copy other peoples music to understand how its done. Just listening to your favourite songs is not enough as an artist. You need to copy it to learn it. You then use all your influences to come up with your own style. All artists in all areas of life do this to create unique art. Hes not saying, copy a song and release it.
Not steal necessarily but copy the art so you know how it's made then you can develop your own sound style and branch out from it. That's how every artist starts out being inspired by another artist.
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You can tell this “copying stuff from others” worked perfectly for Flume, because his sound is so recognizable yet unique. He doesn’t sound like anything else. I remember listening to his debut album for the first time, and being like… “What is this? Some kind of dubstep, wonky, grime, future garage?”. He sounded like all of that combined, but like nothing else I’ve heard before. I even remember seeing him tagged as trip hop in some websites, lol. In summary, he’s pioneer and the creator of a sound and style.
his genre is flume. skrillex has invented like 2 genres haha. visionary artists sound so different that they are basically a new genre
It didn't work in the long run cause he fell the fuck off lmao
@@XenoghostTV none of those 2 fell off lol
Never heard this dude's music but I've been a huge fan and owner of Synplant for years, amazing synth
He’s 100% worth checking out. Hes got a super unique and distinct sound. Hi This Is Flume is a record I definitely recommend to listen to first. His latest album he dropped is good also but its a little more on the commercial side (which isnt a bad thing) HTIF record is just a little more raw and unscripted (and also menacing af🔥)
This dude is a legend in modern music. He inspired a ton of artist and shape what we call « future bass »
check him out
You have definitely heard his music you just haven’t realised it’s him
@@MC24DB wrong. I just looked up his body of work and I've literally never heard a single thing he's ever been a part of. Tbh I really don't care about "future bass" at all
synplant has been a key part of my sound for over a decade now. Such an amazing, fun and powerful softsynth that not many producers know about or use.
its even better now with the genopatch that lets you basically copy samples
1:16. Yee. I legit learned how to copy flume for a few months just to apply it to dubstep. So far, it’s kinda trippy. Like, you expect neuro sounds for fills and stuff. Meanwhile I’m slapping in like alien sword clinks and Tom fills with so much distortion, it sounds like the track got hit by a car for a second….honestly the ladder is the sickest thing ever. It’s on like say it or whatever. It’s so insane sounding to have a really melodic and wet track, and to cut everything to silence for a fill of a crunchy chaotic, atonal ass “badabumchickabum” for a second. And, if anything, ripping off flumes sound for a bit has taught me how to apply contrast to justify anything. And how to make organic ass sounds. My sound design prior to this was very au5. So tuned comb filters, band rejects. Clean wave tables. Pretty much, “entering lightspeed” style fills. Flumes sounds are more like “I found this under a rock, in the forest, covered in ants and bugs. Isn’t it neat?” Fuck, I rely on analogies too much. Uuh. So usually, his sounds are basic sounds but, processed environmentally. So he’ll put a simple sin pluck and some noise into a room ( a shit ton of reverb) and make is aggressive (distortion and down sampling). Than mod the room and the aggressiveness. Opposed to modding the actual source. So, you get a sense of broader movement from a simpler workflow. It is less clean, and he does contrast these insane and organic sounds with trippy synthesized clean sounds. But, what sets this dude apart is the fact that has a dope sense of environment, and knows that changing the characteristics of said environment completely changes the perspective and feel of even the simplest of inputs.
love this wall of text. hope you have a great day bro. stay blessed
I love analogies btw, it definitely helps me communicate and understand what the person is saying or helps me help someone understand what I’m saying lol analogy is like music itself, the more music genres you know how to make, the more people you can communicate with 😂 that might’ve been a bad analogy
make a video about it bruh
where can i find your music?
have an amazing life bro.
amazing advice, thanks for clipping this!
I see you are using my little M4L Synplant device. That was a quirky joke, but it’s nice to see someone is really using it!
i couldn't get it to connect to synplant. Tried following the directions...
Guys u should do a playlist of producers and their favorite synth or vsts. That'd be interesting
I absolutely love synplant. It tends to sound super lovely.
I believe his little monologue at the end about copying ideas for inspiration is the meaning behind his song ESCAPE with Kucka and Quiet Bison . Watch the music video. When the two birds connect and inject data across this tether that connects their mouths
Most bedroom producers have no idea how important and valuable this message is. I've talked to huge bands in my time in the music industry, who said that they completely ripped off smaller indie the local acts that didn't make it, Yeah Yeah Yeahs for example. I heard a live recording of the band they ripped off, it's shocking, you think they'd sue them. Nirvana 100% got their sound from another band FFS. It's really hard to find recordings of this other band from Seattle, but when you hear it, it's unmistakable. Wish I could remember the name, but Kurt admitted it just before he died. They completely ripped off this other band's sound. If you heard them, you'd think it was Nirvana, just with bad lyrics. The same goes for electronic music. There are about 50 electronica house acts that most people would not be able to tell apart.
Fun tool, used it years ago. Gotta regrow it a bunch to get the really good stuff.
love ur podcastttt
man you and mrbill have the same voice. What a trip.
Yeah, I love this thing.
honestly great advice
love this man
What a legend. 💯
This needs to be available as an iPad Pro app.
At 0:33 you can see they got the genes open for automation on synplant. How do you do that? For some reason i cant figure it out anywhere.
Those are Ableton's built-in macro knobs linked to the paramters of synplant. It's not in the plugin itself.
i love u flume thank you
Full episode please
dope
Muchísimas gracias
Reverse engeneering stuff is the fastest way to evolve in a predetermined direction.
I think it's a good thing to set your mind on what sound you feel at home in. It's there you will feel free and fearless in your creativity.
(and now everyone will judge my music harshly) 😅
Wheres the full episode
i love flumeeeeeeee
Nothing wrong from learning from others. Is there anything else that is similiar to it?
Said the guy who abused of granular synthesis after Eprom showed it to him with Clouds and modular stuff lol
0:38 Is that a max4live device for parameters in the middle?
yes but i think those are linked to dna thingy. they have the same names that the variables in synplant has
it looks like the macro's for automation but as knobs rather than sliders
It's a patch meant to make DNA parameters automation friendly but it doesn't work... we'll have to wait for Synplant 2.
@@earlcash05 dont work? why?
THIS SYNTH! fucking secret weapon
where do you watch the full version?
You can listen to the full version on Spotify etc but due to TH-cams copyright policy we can't upload the full vids. They will be coming to our Patreon very soon though!
“Good artists copy, great artists steal”
vst old school
Am I the only one who really thought Flume's favourite vst was granulator?
Flume looks like Kevins Parkers weird cousin
Cool a remix artist telling real up and coming artists not to try to make their own sounds. What a hack, COOL HAIR THOUGH. Vst does look fun
I’ve never thought of flume as a remix artist. I guess I should go listen to some of the “real” Artists though since you recommend them.
@@jasongravely7217 I sense sarcasm in your post but i’m actually very serious. Most of the best flume productions I’ve heard are remixes and his advice is purely hackish. Flying lotus comes to mind
You completely missed the point
I still dont understand Flumes success. .what am i missing
did he just say its okay to steal music concepts from other people, sad
Yeah that was a bit shit if I am honest.
Copying the structure of other people's music is the best way to learn to make music. If you think otherwise 🤡
He’s saying for people just starting out to copy others so that they can learn the mechanics of how everything works, and then they can use what they’ve learned to come up with their own sound. I don’t think he’s suggesting to rip an artist off and release the music as your own.
I think your missing the point my man. This is something that comes up again and again when you listen to interviews with major artists. They copy other peoples music to understand how its done. Just listening to your favourite songs is not enough as an artist. You need to copy it to learn it. You then use all your influences to come up with your own style. All artists in all areas of life do this to create unique art. Hes not saying, copy a song and release it.
Not steal necessarily but copy the art so you know how it's made then you can develop your own sound style and branch out from it. That's how every artist starts out being inspired by another artist.