I am a collector, and this is terrible for any n every collector. Kinda hard to collect 100 different baseball products wouldn't you say. Stopped buying modern years ago. I never understand the people that side with the millionaire greedy people rather than the common man.
@@don63 and would you say it is better to be a collector with the 70s product, where there is one or two options, or today where there are 85 options and tons of parallels?
I used to buy cards back in the day but stopped, too much going on etc.. I started watching videos and bought a few hangers/blasters/super boxes and I was reminded why I stopped. $250 spent for nadda..then you got people like "Stryker Breaks" getting all the kickbacks from Fanatics to rip endless cooked boxes. Legit criminal operations Topps is running,
The entire collectibles market has been a scam since the very beginning. Think about it... ALL these things people deem as "collectibles" are in reality.. nothing more than some cardboard, dirty laundry, or Sharpie scribbles. It takes a true conniving scumbag.. (or genius, depending on how you want to look at it).. to convince millions of people that spending their hard-earned money on these things is an actual viable investment. IT'S ALL A DIRTY GAME.
I didn't count coins today or stickers today, pretty sure the league leaders minis were not separate products but just placed in topps packs. I could be wrong. Please provide links or sources
@@professorsportscards th-cam.com/video/G_EsN4L_jlE/w-d-xo.html And there were also Topps Double Headers and Topps Heads Ups. Plus the buttload of boxed sets Topps released for various retail chains. And it's a bit disingenuous to exclude stickers (with card backs) and coins from being "baseball products". In the end, I think you merely forgotten all these products existed.
Really goes to show while may be perceived to be rare, that doesn't guarantee it will be desired or valuable. Nice video to put things into perspective on where the hobby has gone in the past few years. Still love collecting and ripping wax, but for the most part ill stay away from the specialty and high-end products and focus on just a small subset of these sets - flagship, chrome, archives for the auto chase, and a couple others. Great video 👍👍
I've read a lot of the comments and here is my take. I agree with you about topps and all the new products and insane prices. I am strictly a collector. Have mainly just been collecting one player since 1988 and have stayed disciplined with that. I have a secondary player too, but really just the one player. I have most his older cards up to about 2000. Then i have scattered cards of his thru 2015. Took a few year break and when i got back in, the way i stayed focused is getting one of his cards in the different sets. Some sets are similar year to year, so I'll choose the design i like. I mainly look for auto cards and lower numbered. I buy graded and non graded and then grade myself. So for example, i still don't have a topps sterling auto of his, so looking foe one between 2021 and present day. So i just focus on a main card in the sets and go about it that way.
Its absolutley crazy... I really like Gunnar Henderson for short-mid-long term but as your reaearch reflects the sheer Volume of Options is mindboggling so it quickly becomes overwhelming. Ive tried to narrow my parameters so despite MLB being about Bowman 1st, Chrome #d, & the paper base RC i've been gravitating towards #d INSERTs even in more shunned releases like Bowman's Best & Platinum. Not going to give away too much but if you dig you can find #d without 10 parallel versions so only #/125 or #/501 including all the parallels... It does make me hold back though bc i find myself easily going overboard grabbing #d RCs in Finest, Chrome, Heritage, Cosmic, Black, Bowman, & even Main paper series... Just way too easy to get carried away & also makes me realize why only stuff like Kabooms/Downtowns have value beyond rookie season since you have multiple cards in every release making veteran cards not nearly as appealing even for collectors anymore. Conspiracy minded me wants to say its all part of the overall plan with the Rona Lockdowns being a reducation into ultraconsumerism & a step closer to a clockwork orange dystopia 😮
Poor Heritage sits on shelves with Illusions, Mosaic, Zenith, Sage, Flux, Chronicles, and NBA Hoops in my area. When ‘24 Bowman Baseball is on shelves, Walmart is $6 more than Target, which restocks about a dozen blasters a week. Thanks for the video!
This is crazy! I am not a fan of ultramodern cards because for some reason I don’t understand why but some players get so much hype from influencers that before the person even plays a game in the major league in this case some of their cards are being graded and sold for $100k+ USD sometimes. wtf they haven’t even played a single game yet, but it’s a 1/1 superfractor! 🙄🤯🤯 yet they have 2-10 ssp or sp cards per set so they are far from rare. It’s all smoke and mirrors. It’s like the early 90’s except it’s incognito by making a ton of different sets instead of just a few sets over printing. I feel empathy for the people that paid some of these outrageous prices because it’s only a matter of time before the majority figures this out and prices will plummet. It’s sad because there are some decent players that have emerged in these years, Matt Olson and Pete Alonso are 2 of my favourites but soon enough their prices will reflect like all the amazing players who are now in the HOF that had rookie seasons in the late 80’s and early to mid 90’s. I’ll use hockey for example and the most rare set was the 1990-91 o-pee-chee premier set which has some of the greatest players rookie cards with Jagr, Fedorov, Modano, Joseph and so many others. Plus veterans who were still some young in their careers such as Roy, Lemieux, Yzerman, Hull and the list goes on… now 23 years later and you can buy the complete 132 card sealed set for around $150-175 USD. So with this kind of print runs hidden behind a veil of calling them a different set, even 1/1’s in 5,10 maybe 15 years at the longest, will be worth maybe a few hundred dollars in mint with an Rpa card. Shops will have no problem with keeping their dollar bins well stocked. I knew the set count was high but close to 100 is insane. Yeah when topps bought bowman, it is basically the same sets with a bowman logo instead of topps. So they put out basically two of every set. You have bowman putting out almost every set that topps does. You forgot a few because bowman put out even some of the high end sets including inception. About the only thing that might hold some kind of value is the collegiate sets like bowman u. I haven’t done all my research on this but I think leaf, wildcard and a few others put out college cards. To me I feel the rarity of college cards of players that turn out relevant in their respective professional leagues will hold more value because once they get to the major league, nba, nhl or even the wnba, the market is just over saturated with new players that rarity is masked by numbers of sets. Not only this but the fact that 2024 has already seen new sets come out on top of these ones just makes ultramodern cards a huge investment that is going to be worth pennies on the 100’s of dollars. I might be wrong but I don’t think that collectors are going to keep paying the premium price for these products when they are continually losing money on something that is not relevant in the terms of living. It reminds me of buying a new vehicle. In this case you’re paying in some cases close to $1000 USD for a box of cards that have as few as 2-10 cards in a box and once you open the box is like once you drive the new vehicle off the lot, you’re lucky if it is still worth 40-50% you literally just paid for it. If you look on eBay, you will see many of the cards from these high end sets that you know they were paying basically $150-200 or more per card and they are auctioning off and some I have picked up for literally $0.99+shipping. I bought a topps now heritage auto in a topps sealed holder from 2019 of Franklin Barreto who is far from HOF status but I won it for $0.99 auction. The holder is worth more than what I paid including shipping. But this is what people are getting for their cards they pay dearly for. I will use Jose Abreu for example as he is more than likely going to be a HOF candidate. Topps black signature series encased for 2021 and 2022, one of each and a 2022 topps tier 1 bronze ink auto serial numbered to 25. Not including the regular shipping rate, $28-31 USD for all 3 of them. (I live in Canada so the exchange rate differs days to day) so I put in the average exchange rate to change from Canadian. Look at the prices of them boxes and the quality of player and when they came out I would imagine they went for closer to $300-400 per card but I got them for basically pennies compared to the cost of the original boxes. I could make a comment as long as your video of these types of examples and even at what I paid for them I imagine this time next year I will be making fun of myself for paying that much. For ultramodern cards it seems like the best time to make money if you can get a good price on the card is when they have hype for the new season and either right before the season or if someone has a good season, you might do ok for a month or two into the season but anytime after that you’ll be losing money slowly as the prices will be dropping because people’s minds will be on the next years prospects and whoever the influencers are hyping up for that year. Then the manufacturers will be hyping them up as they print millions more of their cards with different parallels, inserts and sets to try to make $$ asap before people catch onto their scheme. In closing it’s a house of cards literally and figuratively that is using smoke and mirrors to sell the thought of rarity. Sorry for my novel but I have been thinking about this a lot about ultramodern cards and how it’s going to play out.. on a side note people have been complaining about the horrible quality of cards that are coming out that cost an arm, a leg, your and your neighbours nuts to buy but when you see the volume of sets, no wonder quality is suffering. It’s like psa and their inconsistency of grades. When you grade over 1 million cards a month, graders can’t take much time per card so it’s most likely a Quick Look and pick a number that you haven’t used too much for each card. Because you see blind psa reveals and most of the grades for the cards you see… 🤯🍻
There was a survey on TH-cam earlier and I answered 5 on how many releases is ideal. A paper one, a prospect one, 2 chromium and 1 super high end. Topps is watering down hits with all these releases too. Elly autos are going to be less and less as each release happens. Topps just doesn't care. I have no issue with 100 parallels as collecting all the golds or blues can be more fun than rainbow chasing. I know you mentioned Topps is the only one making money and while true, it's a hobby first. Too many releases makes set making impossible and pointless in the eyes of outsiders. We need another crash. It's the only way it can fix itself.
I'm confused as to why the industry hasn't imploded like it did in the 90s, rendering the cards worthless. I'm sure the print runs are more insane now than they were then.
Yea, it sucks. The biggest issue I have with so many products coming out is that it makes a vast majority of the products seem inferior to something that is going to come later on. With so many products hitting the shelves, it's really hard for a casual collector to enjoy the hobby without feeling like they have a severe case of FOMO because everything is designed to make it feel like you have to have it.
Cant forget about Topps Now, Topps Artist Series, Panini Instant, plus their other limited time online releases. Love the content like always & definitely wouldnt complain about longer videos. It does make me really worry about the other sports licenses & the releases coming b4 they even take affect. If baseball is any indicator the printers will be running overtime with NFL, NBA, MLB, UFC, F1, Soccer, plus the Collegiate releases for Basketball & Football... Fanatics is salivating to start printing & never stop 😢 Hard to have nostalgia for anything when it comes & goes so quickly these days... I dont buy sealed product but i do buy way too many singles daily on ebay & i definitely see why MLB RCs are flat & tough to find gains outside the inital crazy hype: too many options so no reason to pay up so less FOMO feelings.
And I found a 2022 topps uk trout platinum parallel 1/1 auto redemption card. Sent it via UPS to Goldin for auction. As if our hobby wasn't scummy enough, the supposed giant auction house steals/loses my card, *AFTER* signing for it. And of course ot was never found!! Then...had to fight for 6 months w/their lawyers to be paid $3,000. This is after months of refusing their offer of $700. Their additudes were like the homeboy shopping network from "In Living Color". I can only imagine how many others had to go through similar bs with that fraudulent company.
It’s all one big scam I’m glad I found this video I can’t believe people paying a thousand dollars plus for some of these hobby boxes just to get nothing in return all the so called good boxes are gonna be sent to the big time breakers and whoever else are deemed to be the chosen ones their printing so many sets now it’s crazy none of these are gonna hold any value cause they only printed millions upon millions of these but some people actually believe these are investments 😂 yea sure they are
My guess is at least half of the money being poured into high end breaks is through dishonest means. People squatting and selling other people's stuff, cars, b&b housing. All illegitimate. Mostly if not all made legal with warped laws that reflect more the stone age than a modern one. One word covers it all, *evil* It's now far beyond just greed. It *was* just greed, back when the playing field was more leveraged than it is now. That club to "prosperity" is now one that calls for the member to be evil.
I started buying vintage during the pandemic when prices rose. I was getting them cheap, and then they started jacking up the price on me, so I guess more people started doing the same.
@@markwilliams6394 imagine the folks that got in in the past 5 years, a decade from now. Vintage will be where a lot of them move, and should only keep prices appreciating.
Is 2024 on pace to beat 2023?? Can we eventually get 365 sets in a year so every day brings something new to buy?? Will any of us ever go home alone now that Don West showed us how to turn that L into a W for just $39.99???
Have we learned nothing from the junk-wax era? lol There are waaay too many releases. I mean they may as well be printing the same amount as they did in the junk-wax era - and they probably are, lol - it's just that these card manufacturers are dividing the amount they print into different products. So basically they're printing the same amount - just via different brands and releases. That's why from an investment perspective the only "ultra-modern" you should only invest in are scarce cards of Hall of Famers and shoe-in hall of famers - ideally serial numbered cards less than /200, scarce inserts, parallels, (actual) relics, on-card auto's etc... And of course you can never go wrong with vintage. But hey, at least baseball still has Topps... I mean the only ultra-modern cards I really collect these days is hockey - and as you probably know, Upper Deck has the exclusive rights to produce hockey cards and Upper Deck SUCKS!!! at least Topps is innovative, at least baseball has kick-ass sets like Topps Heritage and Archives - hockey has nothing even remotely close to that - I mean the closest they got was 08-09 (Upper Deck) O-Pee-Chee where they paid tribute to the 79-80 OPC set with parallels that borrowed the design. As a vintage collector/investor/dealer (not necessarily in that particular order but close) I'm a huge fan of Topps Heritage and Archives.. And since I do the "local card show circuit" I try to keep plenty of ultra-modern cards in my inventory because I'm a dealer but I'm not particularly fond of ultra-modern cards in general outside of a few sets and parallels - tho I am a huge fan of card companies serial numbering cards so collectors can at least circumvent the pending ultra-modern junk-wax era by focusing on serial numbered cards #'d less than /200 - because those cards are finite, hence will always be scarce so there will always be a demand for desirable players - Hall of Famers... Look, I'll say this much tho - I do find it a bit insulting when Topps numbers cards to /2024 and nonsense like that.. Yea, serial numbered cards are popular and in demand but numbering cards to /2024 is ridiculous because that really defeats the purpose of serial numbering cards - if Topps wants to do that then they should serial number all of their cards, but they're not because that would reveal precisely how much they're printing - not that they're NOT already revealing how much they're printing by giving odds on the back of their packs for serial numbered cards which can in-turn be reverse-engineered to reveal approximately how much they're printing of any particular product.. Look, keep serial numbered cards in general #'d to /999 or less because anything more than that is a gimmick and defeats the idea - any card #'d higher than /999 is a novelty.
@@guywilliams6569 it is still over produced in 2019, however you are onto something, pre 2016-2017 some of the pop counts are far less, such as Trout, Curry, Kawhi, but 2019 the pop counts got out of control.
The card companies learned a lesson from the junk wax era. Why print 3 million copies of one set when you can print 100,000 copies of 30 sets? What is usually the most talked about set? The next set. The card manufacturer does not care whether or not the cards appreciate, that is beyond their business model because they have already made their money. When you buy a box of sealed cardboard, you get exactly that, a sealed box of cardboard. You are not buying any promise of financial return from the card manufacturer. The hobby market got super heated during COVID and the manufacturers are doing all they can to turn profits before the hobby falls off again like it did in the late-90's/early 2000's. I don't blame them. They are getting it while the gettin' is hot.
You are asumming n using a lot of incorrect numbers. And check who worked for the companies during the junk wax era, none of the same people still hold those positions. Most importantly The entire card infrastructure has changed since the 80s.
@@professorsportscards Sorry if my comment suggests I support greed over people, because I don't. We are talking about a luxury/entertainment product here. Fanatics and Panini aren't supplying food or medicine to the masses and gouging them for profits. They are taking advantage of supply/demand in a luxury market in order to turn profits. The people can easily choose not to buy or break and therefore force them to reduce supply.
They're made for kid's, made for FUN, yes it is a business, It's not a pyramid or ponzi scheme 😅, if an adult is ignorant/naive enough to consider "collectables" as an investment that's on them.
@@guywilliams6569 cards are only getting bigger, it doesn't change the fact too much is being printed for the profit of the big guy not what's best for the hobby.
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they should be fined for environmental waste
Don't be an investor. Be a collector. That's how this hobby started and its how it should be. If you dont like something, don't buy it.
I am a collector, and this is terrible for any n every collector. Kinda hard to collect 100 different baseball products wouldn't you say. Stopped buying modern years ago. I never understand the people that side with the millionaire greedy people rather than the common man.
@@professorsportscards There's no rule you have to buy everything. Buy singles of your favorites. Been collecting since 1971.
@@don63 how much new product do you buy?
@@professorsportscards Not a lot. Only my favorites. Ebay singles are the way to go.
@@don63 and would you say it is better to be a collector with the 70s product, where there is one or two options, or today where there are 85 options and tons of parallels?
I used to buy cards back in the day but stopped, too much going on etc.. I started watching videos and bought a few hangers/blasters/super boxes and I was reminded why I stopped. $250 spent for nadda..then you got people like "Stryker Breaks" getting all the kickbacks from Fanatics to rip endless cooked boxes. Legit criminal operations Topps is running,
When they came out with a Stryker card in Topps Big League that was a dead giveaway to me
@@DA-sv2iw exactly
I’m glad I am satisfied with collecting single base cards of my favorite players.
I actually had to check my topps account. I haven’t bought anything since December 2023. I’ve scaled way back. The amount of releases is too many!!!
The entire collectibles market has been a scam since the very beginning. Think about it... ALL these things people deem as "collectibles" are in reality.. nothing more than some cardboard, dirty laundry, or Sharpie scribbles. It takes a true conniving scumbag.. (or genius, depending on how you want to look at it).. to convince millions of people that spending their hard-earned money on these things is an actual viable investment. IT'S ALL A DIRTY GAME.
There were more than 2 Topps products in 1990. Topps Big, Topps Stickers, Topps Coins, Topps League Leader Minis, among others.
I didn't count coins today or stickers today, pretty sure the league leaders minis were not separate products but just placed in topps packs. I could be wrong. Please provide links or sources
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And there were also Topps Double Headers and Topps Heads Ups. Plus the buttload of boxed sets Topps released for various retail chains. And it's a bit disingenuous to exclude stickers (with card backs) and coins from being "baseball products". In the end, I think you merely forgotten all these products existed.
Really goes to show while may be perceived to be rare, that doesn't guarantee it will be desired or valuable. Nice video to put things into perspective on where the hobby has gone in the past few years. Still love collecting and ripping wax, but for the most part ill stay away from the specialty and high-end products and focus on just a small subset of these sets - flagship, chrome, archives for the auto chase, and a couple others. Great video 👍👍
I've read a lot of the comments and here is my take. I agree with you about topps and all the new products and insane prices. I am strictly a collector. Have mainly just been collecting one player since 1988 and have stayed disciplined with that. I have a secondary player too, but really just the one player. I have most his older cards up to about 2000. Then i have scattered cards of his thru 2015. Took a few year break and when i got back in, the way i stayed focused is getting one of his cards in the different sets. Some sets are similar year to year, so I'll choose the design i like. I mainly look for auto cards and lower numbered. I buy graded and non graded and then grade myself. So for example, i still don't have a topps sterling auto of his, so looking foe one between 2021 and present day. So i just focus on a main card in the sets and go about it that way.
Its absolutley crazy... I really like Gunnar Henderson for short-mid-long term but as your reaearch reflects the sheer Volume of Options is mindboggling so it quickly becomes overwhelming. Ive tried to narrow my parameters so despite MLB being about Bowman 1st, Chrome #d, & the paper base RC i've been gravitating towards #d INSERTs even in more shunned releases like Bowman's Best & Platinum. Not going to give away too much but if you dig you can find #d without 10 parallel versions so only #/125 or #/501 including all the parallels... It does make me hold back though bc i find myself easily going overboard grabbing #d RCs in Finest, Chrome, Heritage, Cosmic, Black, Bowman, & even Main paper series... Just way too easy to get carried away & also makes me realize why only stuff like Kabooms/Downtowns have value beyond rookie season since you have multiple cards in every release making veteran cards not nearly as appealing even for collectors anymore.
Conspiracy minded me wants to say its all part of the overall plan with the Rona Lockdowns being a reducation into ultraconsumerism & a step closer to a clockwork orange dystopia 😮
Poor Heritage sits on shelves with Illusions, Mosaic, Zenith, Sage, Flux, Chronicles, and NBA Hoops in my area. When ‘24 Bowman Baseball is on shelves, Walmart is $6 more than Target, which restocks about a dozen blasters a week. Thanks for the video!
This is crazy! I am not a fan of ultramodern cards because for some reason I don’t understand why but some players get so much hype from influencers that before the person even plays a game in the major league in this case some of their cards are being graded and sold for $100k+ USD sometimes. wtf they haven’t even played a single game yet, but it’s a 1/1 superfractor! 🙄🤯🤯 yet they have 2-10 ssp or sp cards per set so they are far from rare. It’s all smoke and mirrors. It’s like the early 90’s except it’s incognito by making a ton of different sets instead of just a few sets over printing. I feel empathy for the people that paid some of these outrageous prices because it’s only a matter of time before the majority figures this out and prices will plummet. It’s sad because there are some decent players that have emerged in these years, Matt Olson and Pete Alonso are 2 of my favourites but soon enough their prices will reflect like all the amazing players who are now in the HOF that had rookie seasons in the late 80’s and early to mid 90’s. I’ll use hockey for example and the most rare set was the 1990-91 o-pee-chee premier set which has some of the greatest players rookie cards with Jagr, Fedorov, Modano, Joseph and so many others. Plus veterans who were still some young in their careers such as Roy, Lemieux, Yzerman, Hull and the list goes on… now 23 years later and you can buy the complete 132 card sealed set for around $150-175 USD. So with this kind of print runs hidden behind a veil of calling them a different set, even 1/1’s in 5,10 maybe 15 years at the longest, will be worth maybe a few hundred dollars in mint with an Rpa card. Shops will have no problem with keeping their dollar bins well stocked. I knew the set count was high but close to 100 is insane. Yeah when topps bought bowman, it is basically the same sets with a bowman logo instead of topps. So they put out basically two of every set. You have bowman putting out almost every set that topps does. You forgot a few because bowman put out even some of the high end sets including inception. About the only thing that might hold some kind of value is the collegiate sets like bowman u. I haven’t done all my research on this but I think leaf, wildcard and a few others put out college cards. To me I feel the rarity of college cards of players that turn out relevant in their respective professional leagues will hold more value because once they get to the major league, nba, nhl or even the wnba, the market is just over saturated with new players that rarity is masked by numbers of sets. Not only this but the fact that 2024 has already seen new sets come out on top of these ones just makes ultramodern cards a huge investment that is going to be worth pennies on the 100’s of dollars. I might be wrong but I don’t think that collectors are going to keep paying the premium price for these products when they are continually losing money on something that is not relevant in the terms of living. It reminds me of buying a new vehicle. In this case you’re paying in some cases close to $1000 USD for a box of cards that have as few as 2-10 cards in a box and once you open the box is like once you drive the new vehicle off the lot, you’re lucky if it is still worth 40-50% you literally just paid for it. If you look on eBay, you will see many of the cards from these high end sets that you know they were paying basically $150-200 or more per card and they are auctioning off and some I have picked up for literally $0.99+shipping. I bought a topps now heritage auto in a topps sealed holder from 2019 of Franklin Barreto who is far from HOF status but I won it for $0.99 auction. The holder is worth more than what I paid including shipping. But this is what people are getting for their cards they pay dearly for. I will use Jose Abreu for example as he is more than likely going to be a HOF candidate. Topps black signature series encased for 2021 and 2022, one of each and a 2022 topps tier 1 bronze ink auto serial numbered to 25. Not including the regular shipping rate, $28-31 USD for all 3 of them. (I live in Canada so the exchange rate differs days to day) so I put in the average exchange rate to change from Canadian. Look at the prices of them boxes and the quality of player and when they came out I would imagine they went for closer to $300-400 per card but I got them for basically pennies compared to the cost of the original boxes. I could make a comment as long as your video of these types of examples and even at what I paid for them I imagine this time next year I will be making fun of myself for paying that much. For ultramodern cards it seems like the best time to make money if you can get a good price on the card is when they have hype for the new season and either right before the season or if someone has a good season, you might do ok for a month or two into the season but anytime after that you’ll be losing money slowly as the prices will be dropping because people’s minds will be on the next years prospects and whoever the influencers are hyping up for that year. Then the manufacturers will be hyping them up as they print millions more of their cards with different parallels, inserts and sets to try to make $$ asap before people catch onto their scheme. In closing it’s a house of cards literally and figuratively that is using smoke and mirrors to sell the thought of rarity. Sorry for my novel but I have been thinking about this a lot about ultramodern cards and how it’s going to play out.. on a side note people have been complaining about the horrible quality of cards that are coming out that cost an arm, a leg, your and your neighbours nuts to buy but when you see the volume of sets, no wonder quality is suffering. It’s like psa and their inconsistency of grades. When you grade over 1 million cards a month, graders can’t take much time per card so it’s most likely a Quick Look and pick a number that you haven’t used too much for each card. Because you see blind psa reveals and most of the grades for the cards you see… 🤯🍻
There was a survey on TH-cam earlier and I answered 5 on how many releases is ideal. A paper one, a prospect one, 2 chromium and 1 super high end.
Topps is watering down hits with all these releases too. Elly autos are going to be less and less as each release happens. Topps just doesn't care. I have no issue with 100 parallels as collecting all the golds or blues can be more fun than rainbow chasing.
I know you mentioned Topps is the only one making money and while true, it's a hobby first. Too many releases makes set making impossible and pointless in the eyes of outsiders.
We need another crash. It's the only way it can fix itself.
I'm confused as to why the industry hasn't imploded like it did in the 90s, rendering the cards worthless. I'm sure the print runs are more insane now than they were then.
Yea, it sucks. The biggest issue I have with so many products coming out is that it makes a vast majority of the products seem inferior to something that is going to come later on.
With so many products hitting the shelves, it's really hard for a casual collector to enjoy the hobby without feeling like they have a severe case of FOMO because everything is designed to make it feel like you have to have it.
Wow I never knew ! This is crazy you could never get every card of your favorite player !
This video is great!!!!
none of these are gonna be worth anything
I'm at 27 minutes in, I'm guessing 199 releases
Cant forget about Topps Now, Topps Artist Series, Panini Instant, plus their other limited time online releases. Love the content like always & definitely wouldnt complain about longer videos. It does make me really worry about the other sports licenses & the releases coming b4 they even take affect. If baseball is any indicator the printers will be running overtime with NFL, NBA, MLB, UFC, F1, Soccer, plus the Collegiate releases for Basketball & Football... Fanatics is salivating to start printing & never stop 😢 Hard to have nostalgia for anything when it comes & goes so quickly these days... I dont buy sealed product but i do buy way too many singles daily on ebay & i definitely see why MLB RCs are flat & tough to find gains outside the inital crazy hype: too many options so no reason to pay up so less FOMO feelings.
topps now is good. you cannot counterfeit those. chrome and other product easily to create dupes.
Don't blame Zack Hample.
And I found a 2022 topps uk trout platinum parallel 1/1 auto redemption card. Sent it via UPS to Goldin for auction. As if our hobby wasn't scummy enough, the supposed giant auction house steals/loses my card, *AFTER* signing for it. And of course ot was never found!! Then...had to fight for 6 months w/their lawyers to be paid $3,000. This is after months of refusing their offer of $700. Their additudes were like the homeboy shopping network from "In Living Color". I can only imagine how many others had to go through similar bs with that fraudulent company.
It’s all one big scam I’m glad I found this video I can’t believe people paying a thousand dollars plus for some of these hobby boxes just to get nothing in return all the so called good boxes are gonna be sent to the big time breakers and whoever else are deemed to be the chosen ones their printing so many sets now it’s crazy none of these are gonna hold any value cause they only printed millions upon millions of these but some people actually believe these are investments 😂 yea sure they are
My guess is at least half of the money being poured into high end breaks is through dishonest means. People squatting and selling other people's stuff, cars, b&b housing. All illegitimate. Mostly if not all made legal with warped laws that reflect more the stone age than a modern one. One word covers it all, *evil* It's now far beyond just greed. It *was* just greed, back when the playing field was more leveraged than it is now. That club to "prosperity" is now one that calls for the member to be evil.
Man, I can’t agree more with you. What a fantastic video.
Thanks for the kind words
IT IS A PONSY SCHEME.UR EXACTLY RIGHT
Vintage.....Vintage.....VINTAGE
Yes!
I started buying vintage during the pandemic when prices rose. I was getting them cheap, and then they started jacking up the price on me, so I guess more people started doing the same.
@@markwilliams6394 imagine the folks that got in in the past 5 years, a decade from now. Vintage will be where a lot of them move, and should only keep prices appreciating.
Great advice to many baseball card collectors, buy more and more in cases please!
Is 2024 on pace to beat 2023?? Can we eventually get 365 sets in a year so every day brings something new to buy?? Will any of us ever go home alone now that Don West showed us how to turn that L into a W for just $39.99???
You forgot 2023 topps platinum anniversary. I'm counting it for a 2023 product. Even though it came out 6 months late. That's not a me problem 😂😂
This absolute absurdity. How could one get all of these. And this is just topps.
i thought 30 was guessing a lot. boy was i wrong. way to much production
Have we learned nothing from the junk-wax era? lol
There are waaay too many releases. I mean they may as well be printing the same amount as they did in the junk-wax era - and they probably are, lol - it's just that these card manufacturers are dividing the amount they print into different products. So basically they're printing the same amount - just via different brands and releases.
That's why from an investment perspective the only "ultra-modern" you should only invest in are scarce cards of Hall of Famers and shoe-in hall of famers - ideally serial numbered cards less than /200, scarce inserts, parallels, (actual) relics, on-card auto's etc... And of course you can never go wrong with vintage.
But hey, at least baseball still has Topps... I mean the only ultra-modern cards I really collect these days is hockey - and as you probably know, Upper Deck has the exclusive rights to produce hockey cards and Upper Deck SUCKS!!! at least Topps is innovative, at least baseball has kick-ass sets like Topps Heritage and Archives - hockey has nothing even remotely close to that - I mean the closest they got was 08-09 (Upper Deck) O-Pee-Chee where they paid tribute to the 79-80 OPC set with parallels that borrowed the design.
As a vintage collector/investor/dealer (not necessarily in that particular order but close) I'm a huge fan of Topps Heritage and Archives.. And since I do the "local card show circuit" I try to keep plenty of ultra-modern cards in my inventory because I'm a dealer but I'm not particularly fond of ultra-modern cards in general outside of a few sets and parallels - tho I am a huge fan of card companies serial numbering cards so collectors can at least circumvent the pending ultra-modern junk-wax era by focusing on serial numbered cards #'d less than /200 - because those cards are finite, hence will always be scarce so there will always be a demand for desirable players - Hall of Famers... Look, I'll say this much tho - I do find it a bit insulting when Topps numbers cards to /2024 and nonsense like that.. Yea, serial numbered cards are popular and in demand but numbering cards to /2024 is ridiculous because that really defeats the purpose of serial numbering cards - if Topps wants to do that then they should serial number all of their cards, but they're not because that would reveal precisely how much they're printing - not that they're NOT already revealing how much they're printing by giving odds on the back of their packs for serial numbered cards which can in-turn be reverse-engineered to reveal approximately how much they're printing of any particular product..
Look, keep serial numbered cards in general #'d to /999 or less because anything more than that is a gimmick and defeats the idea - any card #'d higher than /999 is a novelty.
@@Swoop187OG187 well written! One of the best, well put together comments I've ever read on one of my videos.
I guessed 32
The more "releases" that come NOW, the more VALUE the OLDER stuff, 2019 and before, will have... DUH!!!!
@@guywilliams6569 it is still over produced in 2019, however you are onto something, pre 2016-2017 some of the pop counts are far less, such as Trout, Curry, Kawhi, but 2019 the pop counts got out of control.
The card companies learned a lesson from the junk wax era. Why print 3 million copies of one set when you can print 100,000 copies of 30 sets?
What is usually the most talked about set? The next set.
The card manufacturer does not care whether or not the cards appreciate, that is beyond their business model because they have already made their money. When you buy a box of sealed cardboard, you get exactly that, a sealed box of cardboard. You are not buying any promise of financial return from the card manufacturer. The hobby market got super heated during COVID and the manufacturers are doing all they can to turn profits before the hobby falls off again like it did in the late-90's/early 2000's. I don't blame them. They are getting it while the gettin' is hot.
You are asumming n using a lot of incorrect numbers. And check who worked for the companies during the junk wax era, none of the same people still hold those positions. Most importantly The entire card infrastructure has changed since the 80s.
They get it while its hot, while the buyer eats dog food. Never understand the people who support the millionaire greed over the people.
@@professorsportscards Sorry if my comment suggests I support greed over people, because I don't. We are talking about a luxury/entertainment product here. Fanatics and Panini aren't supplying food or medicine to the masses and gouging them for profits. They are taking advantage of supply/demand in a luxury market in order to turn profits. The people can easily choose not to buy or break and therefore force them to reduce supply.
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They're made for kid's, made for FUN, yes it is a business, It's not a pyramid or ponzi scheme 😅, if an adult is ignorant/naive enough to consider "collectables" as an investment that's on them.
They are clearly not made for kids.
AS SOON AS PEOPLE STARTED BUYING CARDS AGAIN....LOL..NOT FUNNY .THEY ROBBED THEM ALL . PRINTING A TRILLION CARDS
So sick of these "The sky is falling!!!" videos!!! Cards will "go away" when SPORTS does... and THAT isn't happening!
@@guywilliams6569 cards are only getting bigger, it doesn't change the fact too much is being printed for the profit of the big guy not what's best for the hobby.