Glad I watched this video and purchased the Predator Phoenix shovel. After receiving the shovel, I was able to dig perfect plugs on my first try. Plugs can be effortlessly removed and flipped back using one hand. When finished, the plugs fit back perfectly with no evidence of the ground being disturbed. Thanks for sharing this information.
I love seeing a good tool with character. A tool with that much character has proven its worth in taking care of its owners needs. The bond between a man and his tools is a very special one and I love how Jeremy highlights this type of stuff in his content. I bought one because of him and it amplified my joy for detecting so much and I really appreciate this type of content.
I recently bought a Phoenix on your recommendation. Now I have two other shovels, one of them brand new that I can't imagine ever using. Predator rules.
One of your 1st vids I watched of yours, you were doing a curb strip vid and gave a quick review on the Phoenix, so I bought one. Put my Whites away as a back up and used this for the last 3 years. Mine has cracked as well. Noticed the crack couple weeks ago. Still using it. I am super tough on it too. Only con I have is it is a tad short for me. I am 6'1". I will go for the Hurricane. Same spade, but is 5" taller and T Handled. Nice vid. Greatest plug shovel ever.
3rd reason is the most important to me I understand why it' will be great the ergonomics of that shovel are just what I need personally I'm a 6 foot + and 270 lbs and bending all the way to the ground to pop a plug well it's time consuming and exhausting I only got so many holes in me and have to be selective on what I dig even though I know I should dig every good repeatable both ways signals I just just can't do it health wise. And this is something I could use to make the holes I do dig less tiring and that will give me more holes on the day. You said everything right to make me set up and pay attention so I'm seconding you but I will have one no question about it I hate the rootslayer I been using for 3 years for these very reasons like cutting the plug and making 17stabs in a circle just to extract a 7inch plug this is a perfect explanation of work smatter not harder. Thank you for sharing
I totally agree, I have the Hurricane (T handle version) of the Pheonix and use it for lawns and places I don't need to go deep like lawns. It does cut great lawn plugs. All my Predator shovels are really tough. I wish they would make the Pheonix/Hurricane a few inches longer, it would be more all around. Phoenix is way too small for plow fields with very deep targets, it stays home on those hunts. Ranger there, but ya, wish they would curve the blade a bit. Great vid man.
Like you I have the Phoenix, the ranger, the Spartan and the little eagle from predator. They are all top quality but the Phoenix is my go to. I think mainly because of how you explained how you don’t have to bend down as much. It just makes life easier!
I watched an older video you did on this shovel and ended up ordered the hurricane model which has the same blade shape but with a longer T handle. Its built like a tank.
Buying the shovel directly from Predator tools to Sweden is 95 dollars + shipping 65 dollars + 25% tax + customs fees, wish they would sell these somewhere in EU would get alot of costumers
I saw one of your earlier video’s on the Predator Pheoenix shovel and had to buy one. I’m new to detecting and took your advice . So glad I did, love it! I went back looking at your videos to see which hand tool you recommend. I didn’t find any specific recommendations but notice you use a Whites hand tool. I thought about the Raptor digging tool. Same concept but in a hand tool. It looks kind a big though, so holding off for now. Thanks for your great videos!
I have a raptor and it is big. The raptor works well in soft soil without thick roots. I tried it in my clay and could only use it for about an hour. The raptor does not have teeth so roots are a no go. I Have been using the Predator 85 hand digger for the last year and has held up very well.
The Phoenix shovel was in stock last week, so I ordered one. I have been using their raptor hand trowel, and it is amazing. Cannot wait to get out and try the shove now.
Hey streak, have you tried the raptor? Very ingenious design, should be the same concept with the curve? Keep cranking the videos, it’s too hot here to detect fir this old boy. Humidity here in Virginia is off the chart. Then it gets to upper 90’s, near 100 + humidity, it’s like a rain forest, Ugh!, lol
Have tried so many shovels over more than the past decade. The cupped or dished blade is a game changer, like he mentioned. I ditched the phoenix’s for the slightly longer "hurricane" model (has the same blade, but they only offer a T-handle) which I love. If you don't ha are missing out on so much easier and faster plugs/digs.
Hey Streak, doesn’t George guarantee his tools? I knew him from coming to relic shows, he went relic hunting with a local friend. George is a top notch guy, got a raw deal on the family business he helped/built. He had to start over from scratch. He is an innovator, first 90 degree hand digger, used to make a shovel that would go straight or 90 degrees, built a custom one for Wayne Aldridge, etc. I really appreciate your insight. I dig for relics in the woods, I’ve hit single Minnie balls with my Deus 1, 3.2 software 16-18” deep, measured with pinpointer, not stuck in the side of the hole, etc. since the woods here is typically not too hard, I use a landscape shovel with a 14” blade. Not perfect but I’ve had the same shovel for years. You bring up great points on how that shovel works, very insightful. If I can get some yards to hunt this fall, I’ll get one of those. What’s the weight? George should keep you supplied for life, you have to have more digs on your shovel than anyone else. Call George, tell him to frame your shovel, put it on his wall with the millions of holes plaque, then send you “shovels for life”. I wish I had you stamina and excitement for detecting, you rock!
I have the pheonix, hornet, raven d handle, 2 raptors, 85 o and all with cases. Incredible tools. Crazy expensive but they all work for their intended purpose.
i had that shovel for about 3 months and i left it at a park and forgot it there ...I loved that shovel I went back to see if it was still there and it was gone cost me 225 bucks to get it over to Canada .I was so pissed at myself for forgetting it at the park
Whoah man....$225!! That is frikn crazy shipping prices. I have lost tools in my days. Don't beat yourself up over it too bad. If you got another Phoenix....you will probably not be leaving it in the park.
@@PaystreakSuperfreak ya it was a total 225 to buy it and to ship it here .i bought another shovel its called the Spear head Spade.its pretty nice to its got the roundness like the phoenox has ..Love your videos man keep them comeing
Paystreak, I agree with the quality of Predator Tools. I have used their Intrepid model for 5 years and the Phoenix for 4 years. I will never use another company's shovel. Predators are QUALITY. They last forever.
i use a evolution straight shovel when digging in gravel/rocks/forest , just because its better then a curved blade , and a curved hornet when digging fields and lawns for the ability to move earth and/or make a nice plug . and i would get the Phoenix for lawns if it was a little longer . to me its just a little short . hurricane i hear ? nope , because i want the D handle .
I need to find the Phoenix shovel in EU. @Paystreak Superfreak i would love to see you hunt some with Pitch Tone and then compare it to your regular 60 tone hunting.
How heavy is the predator Phoenix shovel with the foot pads attached to it? They look like they add a lot more strength to the shovel when you're pounding on it with your foot, but I'm concerned as to how much weight it's going to be dragging it around a field.
Great review, pay. Ive had rounded shovel 36 inch, 18 years, im 6"5 , worse on my bak now, not so great plugs. Would this work with me and my height? Ty.
Unfortunately the Phoenix is too short for your height. You can call Predator Tools and talk to then about your dilemma. Predator Tools shop is in New Jersey.
@PaystreakSuperfreak ordered a model 33 hurricane,lol. I tried a spade but it wasn't meant to do what I wanted. I don't know why it never dawned on me to get an actual shovel for MDing
Thinking about ordering the Model 33- The Hurricane - Shovel with t handle is there any advantage of d handle to t handle would like to here your opinion
What do you think of the hurricane shovel? It has the same scoop but longer handle and T handle. I'm six to six one. Which one do you think would be best for a 6 ft individual?
The Phoenix is about 2" too short for me and I am 6'. I think you would be happier with the Hurricane. You can call predator tools and ask for a longer Phoenix. I think a shovel should be 36" long for a 6 foot stature. A shovel that is too long is much much better than a shovel that is too short.
This is my opinion about the long handle shovels they were the worst tool that manufacturers ever brought into the hobby,,, Many states and towns band metal detecting because of people using long handle shovels in parks,,I watch your videos I see how neat you are with your plugs but people don't understand what you're doing all they see is you digging a hole and doing damage and that's why these long handle shovels have been a threat to our hobby,, When I started out I was using a screwdriver just to extract the coins in parks and never had a problem with it even police have come up to me and mention how good I was at leaving everything neat,,, Nowadays I use just a little hand trowel and most places will accept that versus the long handle shovels and you don't look so obvious digging a hole with a smaller tool,
Screwdrivers and coin probes do not work in my dense clay. Do you use your screwdriver in farm fields? Would you use a coin probe for hunting on the beach? I have had many police stop and talk with me. After you dig a few thousand holes with a shovel....you learn how to make cleaner plugs than an hand digger.
@@PaystreakSuperfreak Jeremy you don't understand what I'm saying I didn't say you weren't plugging good you are very good at using the tool the problem is is when you take that tool to parks and school yards and most areas maybe over where you are it's okay but in other areas that I know it's happened they get kicked out and they're banned from going in there people going by seeing you with a shovel in the park don't understand what you're doing so that's where the trouble starts
Thinking about ordering the Model 33- The Hurricane - Shovel with t handle is there any advantage of d handle to t handle would like to here your opinion
Thinking about ordering the Model 33- The Hurricane - Shovel with t handle is there any advantage of d handle to t handle would like to here your opinion
Thinking about ordering the Model 33- The Hurricane - Shovel with t handle is there any advantage of d handle to t handle would like to here your opinion
I have much more control while digging with the D handle because my grip is not interrupted by the shovel shaft. I do not like T handles because the shaft has to lie between the middle and ring fingers. The Hurricane is a couple inches longer which is better if you are taller than 6 foot. I am 6 foot and the Phoenix is just a little bit short. The Hurricane has the same head as the Phoenix. That dish shaped spade makes the perfect plugs.
@@PaystreakSuperfreak awesome thanks for the information am 6’2” still debating which to buy up in Canada so have all winter to decide keep up the great videos
I have a T handle and I dont grab it in the middle. You grab the right side if your right handed. And when I'm digging a deeper target I'm using two hands. Try to get two hands wrapped around the center of a D handle. And if your digging when its colder with gloves on its impossible. I dont see the advantage of a D Handle for me.
Glad I watched this video and purchased the Predator Phoenix shovel. After receiving the shovel, I was able to dig perfect plugs on my first try. Plugs can be effortlessly removed and flipped back using one hand. When finished, the plugs fit back perfectly with no evidence of the ground being disturbed. Thanks for sharing this information.
Glad I could help!
I love seeing a good tool with character. A tool with that much character has proven its worth in taking care of its owners needs. The bond between a man and his tools is a very special one and I love how Jeremy highlights this type of stuff in his content. I bought one because of him and it amplified my joy for detecting so much and I really appreciate this type of content.
Purchased my Phoenix last year and very happy with it’s quality and the clean plugs I’m able to dig. Predator makes great products.
Great to hear!
I recently bought a Phoenix on your recommendation. Now I have two other shovels, one of them brand new that I can't imagine ever using. Predator rules.
One of your 1st vids I watched of yours, you were doing a curb strip vid and gave a quick review on the Phoenix, so I bought one. Put my Whites away as a back up and used this for the last 3 years. Mine has cracked as well. Noticed the crack couple weeks ago. Still using it. I am super tough on it too. Only con I have is it is a tad short for me. I am 6'1". I will go for the Hurricane. Same spade, but is 5" taller and T Handled. Nice vid. Greatest plug shovel ever.
3rd reason is the most important to me I understand why it' will be great
the ergonomics of that shovel are just what I need personally I'm a 6 foot + and 270 lbs and bending all the way to the ground to pop a plug well it's time consuming and exhausting I only got so many holes in me and have to be selective on what I dig even though I know I should dig every good repeatable both ways signals
I just just can't do it health wise. And this is something I could use to make the holes I do dig less tiring and that will give me more holes on the day. You said everything right to make me set up and pay attention so I'm seconding you but I will have one no question about it I hate the rootslayer I been using for 3 years for these very reasons like cutting the plug and making 17stabs in a circle just to extract a 7inch plug this is a perfect explanation of work smatter not harder. Thank you for sharing
The Phoenix shovel is like cheating. You will be able to dig more targets out because it takes much less effort with the Phoenix.
I totally agree, I have the Hurricane (T handle version) of the Pheonix and use it for lawns and places I don't need to go deep like lawns. It does cut great lawn plugs. All my Predator shovels are really tough. I wish they would make the Pheonix/Hurricane a few inches longer, it would be more all around. Phoenix is way too small for plow fields with very deep targets, it stays home on those hunts. Ranger there, but ya, wish they would curve the blade a bit. Great vid man.
I never thought of all that goes in to a shovel, thanks!
Like you I have the Phoenix, the ranger, the Spartan and the little eagle from predator. They are all top quality but the Phoenix is my go to. I think mainly because of how you explained how you don’t have to bend down as much. It just makes life easier!
I love my Phoenix. Best shovel i have ever owned.
Same here!!
Great product, thanks for posting up the great video,the Phoenix has quickly and neatly helped me recover thousands of great finds,😁
Great to hear!
Based on your recommendation I just purchased this shovel.
It is a great shovel. You won’t be disappointed.
Bought one on your recommendation! Great tool, much better than my 31" Lesche ground shark, though I do love that shovel for what it is
Great advice Paystreak.
Very insightful, thanks. I will have to see if they ship to Canada.
You should!
I watched an older video you did on this shovel and ended up ordered the hurricane model which has the same blade shape but with a longer T handle. Its built like a tank.
Buying the shovel directly from Predator tools to Sweden is 95 dollars + shipping 65 dollars + 25% tax + customs fees, wish they would sell these somewhere in EU would get alot of costumers
We’ll worth the money. Last you years to come.
Also. The ladybug is a smaller version of the Phoenix without serrated blades, but is one hell of a tough shovel and half the price. Save alittle
Same here in canada, plus we have the unfortunate exchange rate, I paid $220 canadian for this shovel, but I would do it again in a heart beat
I saw one of your earlier video’s on the Predator Pheoenix shovel and had to buy one. I’m new to detecting and took your advice . So glad I did, love it! I went back looking at your videos to see which hand tool you recommend. I didn’t find any specific recommendations but notice you use a Whites hand tool. I thought about the Raptor digging tool. Same concept but in a hand tool. It looks kind a big though, so holding off for now. Thanks for your great videos!
I have a raptor and it is big. The raptor works well in soft soil without thick roots. I tried it in my clay and could only use it for about an hour. The raptor does not have teeth so roots are a no go. I Have been using the Predator 85 hand digger for the last year and has held up very well.
@@PaystreakSuperfreak Thanks very much! I will check one out.
The Phoenix shovel was in stock last week, so I ordered one. I have been using their raptor hand trowel, and it is amazing. Cannot wait to get out and try the shove now.
Great to hear! You should be very happy with the Phoenix
Hey streak, have you tried the raptor? Very ingenious design, should be the same concept with the curve? Keep cranking the videos, it’s too hot here to detect fir this old boy. Humidity here in Virginia is off the chart. Then it gets to upper 90’s, near 100 + humidity, it’s like a rain forest, Ugh!, lol
@@jerrytalley802 I do have a Raptor...it does not work good in my dense clay.
Have tried so many shovels over more than the past decade. The cupped or dished blade is a game changer, like he mentioned. I ditched the phoenix’s for the slightly longer "hurricane" model (has the same blade, but they only offer a T-handle) which I love. If you don't ha
are missing out on so much easier and faster plugs/digs.
It would be nice if Predator could put a D handle on the hurricane length. Call it the Typhoon!!
Had my predator now 2 years can’t be beat. Also the ladybug is a beast.
Love my Phoenix too! Wish they were offering custom lengths though…
Hey Streak, doesn’t George guarantee his tools? I knew him from coming to relic shows, he went relic hunting with a local friend. George is a top notch guy, got a raw deal on the family business he helped/built. He had to start over from scratch. He is an innovator, first 90 degree hand digger, used to make a shovel that would go straight or 90 degrees, built a custom one for Wayne Aldridge, etc. I really appreciate your insight. I dig for relics in the woods, I’ve hit single Minnie balls with my Deus 1, 3.2 software 16-18” deep, measured with pinpointer, not stuck in the side of the hole, etc. since the woods here is typically not too hard, I use a landscape shovel with a 14” blade. Not perfect but I’ve had the same shovel for years. You bring up great points on how that shovel works, very insightful. If I can get some yards to hunt this fall, I’ll get one of those. What’s the weight? George should keep you supplied for life, you have to have more digs on your shovel than anyone else. Call George, tell him to frame your shovel, put it on his wall with the millions of holes plaque, then send you “shovels for life”. I wish I had you stamina and excitement for detecting, you rock!
George and Pam are super super nice people. I have the backup Phoenix and I will probably never need to use it.
I have the pheonix, hornet, raven d handle, 2 raptors, 85 o and all with cases. Incredible tools. Crazy expensive but they all work for their intended purpose.
An M1 Abrams tank can run over the Hornet.... and the hornet will survive!!
@@PaystreakSuperfreak PaystreakSuperfreak sold me on them 100%
Great video. I have a straight shovel now and it is great but I will be getting one of these for sure.
It is a night and day difference.
I use the Piranha because I’m 6’ 2”, and it’s taller. I absolutely love it! Highly recommend!
I you tried the Hurricane.....you would never go back to the Piranha
So cool! I don’t like my chances of getting one into oz but I can only try I guess!
I love mine it is 2’ years old work good every day. It’s worth the money
I bought the Hurricane. Best shovel I've ever had!
The parabolic shape is amazing.
i had that shovel for about 3 months and i left it at a park and forgot it there ...I loved that shovel I went back to see if it was still there and it was gone cost me 225 bucks to get it over to Canada .I was so pissed at myself for forgetting it at the park
Whoah man....$225!! That is frikn crazy shipping prices. I have lost tools in my days. Don't beat yourself up over it too bad. If you got another Phoenix....you will probably not be leaving it in the park.
@@PaystreakSuperfreak ya it was a total 225 to buy it and to ship it here .i bought another shovel its called the Spear head Spade.its pretty nice to its got the roundness like the phoenox has ..Love your videos man keep them comeing
That's serious detecting man , I'll get what you say get from this point on , when I need something. Keep killing !!
Paystreak, I agree with the quality of Predator Tools. I have used their Intrepid model for 5 years and the Phoenix for 4 years. I will never use another company's shovel. Predators are QUALITY. They last forever.
i use a evolution straight shovel when digging in gravel/rocks/forest , just because its better then a curved blade , and a curved hornet when digging fields and lawns for the ability to move earth and/or make a nice plug . and i would get the Phoenix for lawns if it was a little longer . to me its just a little short . hurricane i hear ? nope , because i want the D handle .
I need to find the Phoenix shovel in EU. @Paystreak Superfreak i would love to see you hunt some with Pitch Tone and then compare it to your regular 60 tone hunting.
How heavy is the predator Phoenix shovel with the foot pads attached to it? They look like they add a lot more strength to the shovel when you're pounding on it with your foot, but I'm concerned as to how much weight it's going to be dragging it around a field.
I have foot pads for the Phoenix and I do not use them it makes it too heavy. I use the footpads on the Hornet.
Great review, pay. Ive had rounded shovel 36 inch, 18 years, im 6"5 , worse on my bak now, not so great plugs. Would this work with me and my height? Ty.
Unfortunately the Phoenix is too short for your height. You can call Predator Tools and talk to then about your dilemma. Predator Tools shop is in New Jersey.
@PaystreakSuperfreak ordered a model 33 hurricane,lol. I tried a spade but it wasn't meant to do what I wanted. I don't know why it never dawned on me to get an actual shovel for MDing
Thinking about ordering the Model 33- The Hurricane - Shovel with t handle is there any advantage of d handle to t handle would like to here your opinion
What do you think of the hurricane shovel? It has the same scoop but longer handle and T handle. I'm six to six one. Which one do you think would be best for a 6 ft individual?
The Phoenix is about 2" too short for me and I am 6'. I think you would be happier with the Hurricane. You can call predator tools and ask for a longer Phoenix. I think a shovel should be 36" long for a 6 foot stature. A shovel that is too long is much much better than a shovel that is too short.
Love this company Call me 2 Shovels from them Absolutely love them ❤️
I always wanted to ask if you put that bend in it or if the shovel came with that bend in the end. Great review.
Do they make different sizes I'm a tall guy.
Hurricane is about 5 inches longer with T handle and has the exact same spade as the Phoenix. The Phoenix only comes at 33 inches.
A million??????
Mine just shipped
You should be very happy with the Phoenix
Purchased one yesterday 👍
Good choice!
Where’d you find it at?
Actually I just looked and Predators website have them in stock right now. $94 plus tax and shipping.
@@kody3377 had to pay alot more in the UK 🇬🇧
There so heavy 🤔
There's only one and that's it!
Went to buy one yesterday; got to checkout/shipping. $34 to ship; deal breaker for me.
Was that on their website?
@@kody3377 Yep
Well worth the shipping. The best tools are expensive!!
I live in Indiana and it was still 37$ but it was still worth the extra money. They're out of South Jersey nice friendly lady at the phone.
@@timbenham516 To be clear; I bought one anyway, no regrets.
This is my opinion about the long handle shovels they were the worst tool that manufacturers ever brought into the hobby,,, Many states and towns band metal detecting because of people using long handle shovels in parks,,I watch your videos I see how neat you are with your plugs but people don't understand what you're doing all they see is you digging a hole and doing damage and that's why these long handle shovels have been a threat to our hobby,, When I started out I was using a screwdriver just to extract the coins in parks and never had a problem with it even police have come up to me and mention how good I was at leaving everything neat,,, Nowadays I use just a little hand trowel and most places will accept that versus the long handle shovels and you don't look so obvious digging a hole with a smaller tool,
Screwdrivers and coin probes do not work in my dense clay. Do you use your screwdriver in farm fields? Would you use a coin probe for hunting on the beach? I have had many police stop and talk with me. After you dig a few thousand holes with a shovel....you learn how to make cleaner plugs than an hand digger.
@@PaystreakSuperfreak Jeremy you don't understand what I'm saying I didn't say you weren't plugging good you are very good at using the tool the problem is is when you take that tool to parks and school yards and most areas maybe over where you are it's okay but in other areas that I know it's happened they get kicked out and they're banned from going in there people going by seeing you with a shovel in the park don't understand what you're doing so that's where the trouble starts
Thinking about ordering the Model 33- The Hurricane - Shovel with t handle is there any advantage of d handle to t handle would like to here your opinion
Thinking about ordering the Model 33- The Hurricane - Shovel with t handle is there any advantage of d handle to t handle would like to here your opinion
Thinking about ordering the Model 33- The Hurricane - Shovel with t handle is there any advantage of d handle to t handle would like to here your opinion
I have much more control while digging with the D handle because my grip is not interrupted by the shovel shaft. I do not like T handles because the shaft has to lie between the middle and ring fingers. The Hurricane is a couple inches longer which is better if you are taller than 6 foot. I am 6 foot and the Phoenix is just a little bit short. The Hurricane has the same head as the Phoenix. That dish shaped spade makes the perfect plugs.
@@PaystreakSuperfreak awesome thanks for the information am 6’2” still debating which to buy up in Canada so have all winter to decide keep up the great videos
I have a T handle and I dont grab it in the middle. You grab the right side if your right handed. And when I'm digging a deeper target I'm using two hands. Try to get two hands wrapped around the center of a D handle. And if your digging when its colder with gloves on its impossible. I dont see the advantage of a D Handle for me.