My mother is a deep believer in the Hindu religion. I don't believe in any of it. But when I didn't do well in school and my mother was extremely anxious about my future, she would pray a lot and visit a temple. It's in her nature to worry a lot. After her prayers her despair would be replaced with hope. Even though I'm still not a believer I appreciate what religion has given her. Thank you school of life for this video.
+Sanker Narayanan That's the very same thing I have seen with my grandmother. She believes that God and her prayers are what have taken me far in life but I'm standing there like 'It was me.'
I can totally relate to this. Whenever I get an urge to argue with my mother regarding the irrationality of her beliefs in prayers, I remind my self how it gives her comfort and provides her with meaning. She can't be expected to change her worldviews and abandon her sole source of peace at this point in her life now. I'd rather just let her be happy...
While reading these comments, it's quite obvious that the problem is not religion, but instead, close-minded, moral absolutists who wish to impose their ideologies on everyone else. Moral absolutism is not a characteristic that is exclusive to those who embrace religion. It's also embraced by those who embrace nationalism, secularism, patriotism, or any kind of political ideology. Just let people be.
Exactly, in a way, this narrator is imposing his athiest ideology on us and is being very condescending of theists. There is no compulsion in religion, and he should express his views as his opinion-- and not fact
No, this is about people rejecting reality for fiction. You can believe Whatever, but science and facts are first and will always be true. If you have an issue with that study up, get a degree, and start experimenting to disprove what you feel is wrong.
Steve Olivera I literally hate science, it’s the ultimate manifestation of the ego of man, I hate how science demands all of its claims to be true and be accepted without question or thought to the validity and purpose and meaning and intention of the people releasing the information... of cosmic science and all of the intellectual linear languages of arithmetic do nothing on bringing well being, health, joy, freedom, life, peace to humanity and earth... than it is only causing HARM, it’s adding fuel to the fire of confusion and pain and suffering to humanity... all of life is a gift and the fact you have to pay fake money for water, food, shelter, etc is a clear sign of a deal with the devil...
NASA literally creates fake 3D computer generated images of “outer space” and far away galaxies and universes that do nothing to make the world a better place... it’s like a global prank set up by “the elite” to see how stupid and gullible the masses are to trick, while they all laugh “can you believe they actually think there was a moon landing ahaha”
@@camerontaylor7471 Just say you're a dumb idiot who can't solve simple arithmetical problems. That's what a salty loser would say about science, it's because you can't grasp it. Take a book and read
This video sums up my life of recent years. I have abandoned 2 years of Computer Science to pursue a degree that acknowledges my interest in religions. I'm beginning this degree very soon, to hear this video is so informative and inspiring. and id like to say that I love and appreciate the work you people put in your videos. Your videos are most definitely having an impact on what I'd like to be in the future. From my experience, religious people are some of the most happiest people I have seen. Ajahn Brahm/TH-cam for example. In my opinion science will never be the answer to happiness and contentment. I believe that either a life of simplicity or a form of religious/philosophical dedication is the answer to contentment and happiness. Religion teaches selflessness, far from science such as technology which has made us more selfish. Technology and science are far from evil though, with the declining interest in religion we just need to find balance with it.
+Ian Ol Read "Shall the religious inherit the world." Its just one of many books that state how secular people have stopped having families and in a result children, So the only youth brought into the world is through religious people. (And migrants which tend to be religious as well.) Europes secularization may be reversed in 30 years, and the children born to religious parents are starting to be more resistant to secular ideals. Maybe through genetics that favor religious tendencys. (Two books that cover genetics and religion include the God Gene, and Evolution of God.)
***** Laughably wrong? What's wrong here is your statement, it doesn't add to this conversation and it's plain ignorant. I can admit I am in favor of religion over science because its my interest/passion. Technically the last two years I was into science, I'm confident in that if I studied it more, I would be bias towards the sciences in my comment. Science vs religion like any debate has two sides and neither side with all its people is ever laughably wrong once they are in the grounds of reason and fact. I have not come near this ground as I can factually back up most of my comment.
Michael Smith That's interesting. Thanks for sharing. Have a few questions. How can genetics favor religious tendency’s though? I always thought religion is either impressed on us or learnt by an individual. Also if religious people are having more children, why is religion on the decline? In Ireland Christianity has decreased by 60% in recent years.
***** Keeping in mind that contentment is one of the highest forms of happiness. Ie drugs can make you temporarily happy, money and possessions are temporary happiness, children and partners isnt all rosy and happy the whole time either. Temporary happiness creates desire and unhappiness. Ive been there like everyone else. Saved for 3 months for an iphone. So unhappy for a while that I didn’t have it, got the iphone eventually. Guess what, It only made me happy for a few hours before I wanted the next thing. Nearly everyone is in this unhappy cycle of desire. If you can escape this desire then, can't you or I be more happy. This is why I said simple life or religion = happiness. Ajahn Brahm, that guy I mentioned, he's a Buddhist monk who has nothing and seems so content and happy. No, you don’t have to be a monk but some form of religious dedication can lead to a happier simpler life. Then again I'm sure that religion hasn't made everyone happy too. But it can be said like the above video that as science has explained a lot, it still isnt a replacement for the consoling effects of religion. These consoling effects in my opinion would be of great comfort to those leading high pressure lives. You are right that science and religion is not happiness, that's a small percentage though. Keep in mind that science creates a lot of this temporary happiness with each release of a new gadget. In your opinion, what does a person need to be happy?
+Akashi Seijuro Thanks for sharing! I was just wondering, I'm a psychology student, about your experience in Africa, and what did religion do for you while you were there? I.e did it fill a need you had? Help you get through the tough times while you were there? I'm just curious because I'm studying ways people cope with bad situations right now and if any of those questions are too personal definitely don't answer. Thanks!
***** I think the main problem with the way that many people address religion is that they are very emotional about it: they either love or hate it, and because of that instead of looking at religion and describing it, they either defend or attack it without realising what it truly means.
@@jasonschneijder2012 That is because the only leg region has to stand IS emotion. There is not evidence, logic, or reason used in believing any religion. Religion/Theology is believed solely on faith, which by definition, is the belief in something without sufficient evidence; leaving one susceptible to emotional hi-jacking .
@@mjfraser04 and for the so-called christians they call it faith. but when they don't have the amount to add up even to a grain of mustard seed's worth then is it any wonder that so many call bs? for that is all it takes according to their so called leader, 'and nothing shall be impossible unto u.' if they'd shut up, most others would shut up. but like my ol' pop used to say, 'if they shut up,their ass would fly open.'
@@mjfraser04 Human beings have emotions, and their emotions are powerful forces in their lives, so I'm not sure what your point is. Hardcore rationalism isn't exactly taken seriously by most intellectuals now days.
Magnulus76 My point was...What other way CAN someone talk about religion other than emotional? Unless the HISTORY of it (religion) is discussed, or it is used as an Aesop’s Fable, in what other context can religion be discussed without using emotion (as the OP tried stated when he tried to sound like a condescending pew ace maker). There is no logic, Reason, Scientific method, or Evidence used in the religion of religious texts. So one must use FAITH. Which what people use to believe something without using any of the above pathways to truth that I listed above. Faith IS by definition...emotional. And most people on the planet are not “intellectuals”. So your last sentence is a fallacy. Meaningless.
5:38 my Favorite part.... “It’s tempting to laugh at the Catholic Church but the church is trying to hold on to something rather lovely that had served humankind well; the idea of our cosmic significance; the idea that we matter; that someone out there cares. Copernicus and Galileo's theories are like the very painful end of the childhood-of-mankind.** Their discoveries that we are but a tiny forgotten meaningless blue dot in the randomness of space, is akin to a child discovering that his or her parents are in truth, really unimportant in the scheme of things. A new existential terror will echo down the ages from these scientific discoveries we are still dealing with. "
"Instead of denouncing the marginal and absolutely ephemeral character of humanity within an immense and very ancient universe, it should be explained that in a smaller and younger universe our appearance would not have been possible, since there would be no time to "cook" the elements necessary for life on a low heat "(Owen Gingerich, astronomist).
Mongol JJ while I am a strong believer of God you are completely right he did say it to were in no extent was I angry or even offended by what he is saying because it is true that the Bible is not literally true and it is true that we are using it mainly if not fully for comfort
Religion itself isn't the problem. Dogma and blind allegiance is. It's just that religion is more likely to align itself with dogma. It's troubling to have certainty without basis of facts. Science alone doesn't bear facts. We must never ignore this. Phrenology was once s science.
+inquisitive871 The difference between science and religion is that science is willing to change in the face of new evidence. Phrenology was a theory, but it was eventually proven to be nonsense, so science gave up on it and moved on. We are never done with learning.
+inquisitive871 My concern is that people follow science, or what they call "science" as if it was a religion. They believe that the bad religion "religion" must be eliminated, and through "science" the world will be magically plentiful and peaceful. It's the same old abrahamic monotheistic idea "if it doesn't match our dogma it must be wrong" in disguise.
+Douglas Phillips Science is just a tool or a set of methods . You don't know what you're talking about. The world clearly would be a better place without deluded minds, yes. But no - no reasonable person wishes to take away freedom of religion. However, when religion permeates society and important decisions, prohibits progress regarding education and critical thinking, and is forced upon, then we have a big fucking problem.
blatherskite You obviously misunderstand my statement. When you say, "you don't know what you're talking about" please take he time to understand what I'm talking about. It is not the use of science as a method of inquiry, but when viewed like a religion it's self that I have a problem. This can be doubly troublesome because they won't realize that they are practicing science as a religion. There are plenty of unreasonable people and if its a mob of science fans or a mob of god fans they are equally deluded. Science isn't the problem, religion isn't the problem, stupid people are the problem.
Except now they use the very device created with science to further their adventures in to the idiot hole,yea the very science they are up in arms against for stating the earth is a sphere...
Its true believing in something without evidence makes you silly.. With that said whoever created these religions was smart, as creativity is a sign of intelligence.
@@John-996 They could also just be delusional/ high as fuck. A lot of religious and spiritual experiences have been speculated to be caused by psychedelics or hallucinations. Stephen Pinker even mentions a theory, in his book,Enlightenment Now", that argues that Christianity emerged from mushrooms. Its wild.
For those who say that science will never be the answer to finding happiness and contentment, I agree. But do not limit yourself with social conventions such as religion. Instead; unravel your ever expanding mind with a pursuit of *Truth*.
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Entertainment is expanding so it will fill in the holes. Religion isn't for anyone. All religions have their fair share of practicing and non-practicing adherents.
Caveat emptor. A very superficial, reductionist etiology of religious origins, and anachronistic--right out of Feuerbach. Read Evelyn Underhill, Rudolf Otto, Carl Jung, Mircea Eliade, Ian Stevenson, but especially "The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind" by Julius Jaynes. The type of Huxlyan atheism presented here was very popular in the 19th century. The biblical literalism refuted by science didn't become doctrinaire until the middle ages in Europe; the ancient fathers and rabbis never heard of it!
What about the part ~9:50 where he implies Atheists would need something to replace 'charity'... as if atheists are incapable of giving to / starting a charity?
@@Onoesmahpie that’s not what he was implying because he said it would be replaced by a welfare state which is the redistribution of wealth in a uniform and equal way that would benefit society rather than people choosing where the money goes which can create an imbalance and sometimes just go to the salaries of managers and CEOs. It’s not that he says atheists/agnostics aren’t be capable of generosity, it’s that some might want to apply it in a different way than direct funds.
Not really, in order to understand religions you need to read the original scriptures instead of relying on a biased source trying to further its agenda. Try it get out of your comfort zone and seek knowledge from the right places.
Basically, respecting othets' believes, as long as they are not 'imposing' upon others, seems to be the right approach for the timebeing...Thsnk you! I love your talks!! Teresa
I'm so glad I can hear people say religious stuff and just not give a shit. Otherwise I'd be like one of the hundreds of people in the comments fighting a futile and tedious argument. Enjoy your gods or atheism or whatever you believe, just don't force any of your shit on me and we'll be fine.
That was a great argument. People need to know that although throughout history many leaders have Used (abused) the power of religion to accomplish their goals ; it's not tge true nature of religion. It's very simple to relate all terrors and wars of our modern era to religion, but that's not the main purpose of religion. We need to understand the need of religion for self improvement and try to integrate it in our modern lives. I consider myself a Muslim but my modern life in Canada doesn't allow me to follow all Islamic rules nor I seek the need to do that, but still I find it very useful to have this religious beliefs and it has helped me a lot.
sorry I believe you didn't read carefully, I said I'm not willing to obey all islamic rules because they interfere with the modern life that I chose to live, and I think that's the case for many other religions too, it's kind of impossible to follow all the rules of specific religion in this era, and I think it's not necessary to do that, but why not use those parts of religion which helps you spiritually based on your need? also I have lived in islamic republic of Iran and I think forcing religious rules is ridiculous in any country because religion should be something for each persons's individual life.
+ice19278 because islam ordered to respect the rôles of the country where we live in, the first message of islam is pleace, in order to not ruin peace and create anarchy,you need to respect the civil laws.
+ice19278 I think that considering living in a multiracial country with different beliefs and cultures,it wouldnt be the best place to live in if you have to follow the rules that only a minor of the population believes in that religion.So for example,if I were to implement the Sharia law in country X,I'll need the(lets say parliament or congress)has to agree to it and its citizens to should give their opinion on it whether they accept it or not.
+sepehr jamali I agree. I'm Canadian as well and a Hindu. I don't strictly follow every rule of my religion. But I feel like it's a part of my soul, of who I am to at least be religious in some sense.
+James Bond In what way is the second point related to the first point? It not being true, in your opinion, has nothing to do with whether or not it has helped his life.
I'm not an atheist, nor religious. I do however, believe that love, hope, piece... God and spirituality... are all very real and important things. Science takes a mathematical and physical evidence approach to understand the world. Spirituality takes an emotional, moral and intangible approach. Both are important for human kind.
***** Stop saying sorry. From a DMX song "Sorry niggas say sorry, you learn to apologize"... furthermore, you have nothing to apologize about. I was simply pointing out this channel has quite an intellectual point of view often times as well ya know? I come off brash, but that's because I don't have time to mince words. I kind of get irritated when people just don't say what they mean. Never apologize for how you feel, only apologize for actions that you may have taken that you disagree with when you look at things critically. :) have a good day friend.
+LittleGamer Momo (LittleGamerMomo) Yes, Religion is supposed to be a way of life or philosophical etc. But who's practicing that? Humans of course with their Intellect and capacity. You didn't get the point of my previous answer
+Rahmo Elmi Ok, I think I figured out why your reply is so confusing. You're essentially positing a bad syllogism. "All religion is a way of life" "Buddhism is a way of life" "therefore Buddhism is a religion". This line of thinking doesn't work for many reasons. Most notably the suggestion that religion is solely a way of life or that any "way of life" is somehow religious or that a "philosophy and way of life" can't be detached from religion. All of these suggestions are false. First, religion is not solely a "way of life". It's a complex web of ideas, beliefs, rituals, writings, symbolism, art, architecture etc. Religion is defined in very specific ways. It's not so nebulous as "a way of life". Second, Just because Buddhism (or anything else) is "a way of life", doesn't automatically make it a religion. One could define "a way of life" in many different ways that has nothing to do with religion. Last, I think the distinction between Buddhism's "philosophy and a way of life" and religion is that most Buddhists are atheist. Buddhism isn't about believing in god or gods. The historical Buddha taught that believing in gods was not useful for those seeking enlightenment. That's why most people disqualify Buddhism as a true religion. God belief is the foundational qualifier to define something as a religion. For these reasons, I personally don't consider Buddhism a religion. Like Richard said, it's more a philosophy and way of life.
+ajay raghavendra you cant really go around saying that, if thats your opinion then so be it... believe me, certain people in religion can be a lot smarter and experienced than the common atheist
If you mean, for example, like in ancient egypt in which sun is worshipped as a God (since they didnt understand what is that powerful thing) then Yes..its a belief but not a Religion. While people like Jesus, Buddha etc did exist and were sent by God to spread their lessons~ Then later they become Religions~ Even until now we still do not know what happened in the afterlife and what is the purpose of life. So religion is definitely not outdated~
jjjb01 religion is one part of the holy trinity, all civilizations maintain a government, religion, and military in order to implement human slavery on a mass scale... the biblical prophets and there prophecies is the history and instruction manual for how take a free man of nature and turn him and his future children(that’s you and me FYI) into a willing slave celebrating there broken will and slavery. We are all metaphorically Jesus Christ sacrificing our lives/souls in civilization(hell) joining satan and becoming a fallen angel destroying nature(cars, concrete, paper, oil, etc) to bring the apocalypse. It’s a self fulfilling prophecy and we are pawns on the chessboard...
jjjb01 life has no purpose or meaning, if it did then we would all be forced to live and act out whatever purpose or meaning, which would void all free will. The only purpose to life is to create a unique and original soul and to maintain the health and vitality of our bodies, the people and life around us including nature/earth so all life can live in peace and harmony and LIVE forever more
@@camerontaylor7471 you know there are many people used Religions in the wrong way or for their own purposes. I believe all religions teachings are great. They look bad bcs many people manipulated them~ I appreciate your point of view about life. I do agree that we need to maintain that. We were blessed with brain and heart to progress more in our life~ And to be kind and have good moral. And then we also have Soul..which is our very true form~ So we need to also take care of our soul so one day when we die and leave our body behind we can trace back our way to God
Thank you so much for sharing this wonderful perspective! I had once been very enthusiastic in the church I had been raised in. Now, I hold a much more skeptical view. Even still, I have had to come to terms with what I had lost (whether real or imagined). Today, I believe religion is much like money. It is simply a tool that others will use in what ever way truly reflects their character. If you a good, kind, charitable person, going to church will help you become more of those things. If you are a fearful, judgmental, hateful person, then going to church will also help you there as well.
Better than blindly believe some scripts on so-called "holy books", i will hear this drunken man rather than some people too much comforting themselves with the opium of the masses.
Why? A very superficial, reductionist etiology of religious origins, and anachronistic--right out of Feuerbach. Read Evelyn Underhill, Rudolf Otto, Carl Jung, Mircea Eliade, Ian Stevenson, but especially "The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind" by Julius Jaynes. The type of Huxlyan atheism presented here was very popular in the 19th century. The biblical literalism refuted by science didn't become doctrinaire until the middle ages in Europe; the ancient fathers and rabbis never heard of it!
This makes me appreciate the beauty of all of the religions in the world, the ideas they have, their similarities and differences, and the community they do to people, the morals they tried to teach to make people as good persons, and the beauty of their traditions, art, culture, etc. I am a Christian Catholic, but I am not religious but kind of spiritual, and I also try to have open mind when discussing religion or dealing with other's religions and ideas, because above all of the ideas I learned as a Catholic is that "I should love my brothers and sisters as I love myself" and it is a hard thing to do, a hard process to perform, a hard challenge to perfect, but still I constantly try to do it. I also kind of practice the good things that other religions do and teaches about morality, how to live a good life, and how to be a good person. I also appreciate the role of religions as social and cultural structures that provides us something that we still look for and struggle as human beings that modern science and technology can't sometimes offer, and the gave people relief, assurance, be at ease, and to continue to live a good life. The only problem with religion for me is how they divide people, how they fight against one another through ideas and their hold on for their faith, the killings they did to people in the past, how some force people to believe in their faith, and how religions teach children to just belief in a strict linear path seriously, to be close-minded to other ideas and beliefs, to have prejudices about other's beliefs, to be intolerant of others in other beliefs, to control the entire life and future of their children, to not respect other's beliefs, and to think that they are the most special human beings and other people are not and that the only way to save ourselves is to strictly believe in our beliefs and to do and save others by forcing them to convert. All social and cultural things we have always have pros and cons with them making them not perfect, whether religion, art, language, technology, etc. There's nothing in this world and in our human existence and culture that only have good side without potentials of being bad, used for evil, or be imperfect. Technology, science, religion, and even society all have their pros and cons, their potentials to be bad, used for evil and immorality, and to always be perfectly imperfect part of our reality, and this is also what religion tries to say, that amidst the imperfections and of not having perfectly good and complete things in our world, there's still that perfect thing that awaits us whether called heaven, afterlife, resurrection, nirvana, moksha, enlightenment, spiritual liberation, freedom from suffering of life, etc. .
This is by far the best comment. I very much agree with every word you say, and this is how/what I believe. I am a Christian. And I believe other religions are so beautiful and the thoughts, ideas, rituals, and experiences they’ve invoked on us. Terrorists no matter what religion do the thing that all religions try to tell us not to do! I’m in my beginning of studying the major 3 religions, and their origins. And no matter what science says, there is something that we can’t see and probably can’t be measured and it’s god. It’s not a “Man in the sky”. God is so much more, “he” is literally everything. And it makes sense that we as humans see god as a human, what else would we see god as? You know, for us to even become humans, and for earth to be bombarded with meteors, and formed in the sun with just the right conditions to form life let alone complex life is amazing. All religions and their goal for the greater good of humanity is beautiful. If we could all love each other and forgive, the world would be a much better place.
@@ruthvillaroya3585 To every religious soul out there: BIBLE (KJV) John 10:1 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber. Ephesians 5:11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. Hebrews 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:
"Religion may well have been a deep illusion but it was an important one." That's how I felt when I became an atheist. I grew up in an abusive home. 'The meek shall inherit the earth' meant a lot to me. I'd read the bible a lot and to this day I can recite quotes that my parents hadn't even read. Reading 'Thus Spoke Zarathustra' helped me when I became an apostate. Religion is an analgesic for existential grief more than anything else. To know you exist and your life and sufferings are acknowledged and maybe rewarded.
Thank you for always bluntly and rationally addressing even the most controversial topics. It is unbelievably common in other media for the narrative to resort to being peppered with disclaiming language or waltzing around stating things as a definitive fact, so as not to offend. Perhaps that is why I've found that SoL content has been an impressively effective informative resource; you are clearly putting into focus ideas that seem to naturally align with my own on a number of subjects.
It’s so refreshing to hear a secularist speak with tenderness, love, and compassion in the midst of the “new atheist” frenzy which stirred such hatred, arrogance, anger and bitterness. Thank you Alain
To quote CS Lewis, "I believe in Christianity as I believe that the sun has risen; not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything else".
@Peter Pade: so it can be said for every religion. "I believe in (__insert religion here__) that the sun has risen; not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything else".
And with Dawkins' approach, I also fear the "Brave New World" scenario. I imagine he's read that book, but the point is, when science and pleasure replace God, you also lose humanity. Humans are only human when we struggle, and God is needed in that struggle. I DON'T mean the Abrahamic God, either. I'm a Pantheist, so everything is God to me.
The description about Dawkings's view is a little narrow, but this video is a wonderful thing, and this channel gives "faith" back to mankind. Thank you very much
I believe that both religion and science are very important to be knowledgeable in. One provides answers to what the other cannot. A person loses a large part of there humanity when they are only religious or only scientific.
I live in one of the poorest countries in the world and I'm one of the few who are privileged enough to be an atheist. It's true the fear and love of God is really helpful for poor countries. In a way religion is still government in my country. It keeps the peace.
Yes. Exactly. Now that I am old. If only you were around when I was young. Much modern discussion is with someone who is angry. No one likes anger or hate. The truth of your words shows because you are at peace with yourself and the world. There is no hate or anger in your voice. Keep up the good work.
The remarks on Buddha weren't quite correct. His goal isn't to "abandon" suffering or pain of the world through mental practices. In fact, he says the very search for comfort and satisfaction is "WHY" we suffer. We suffer because we want things, because we want a lasting happiness in a world of transient phenomena. Meditation is simply to still the mind, to stay mindful of one's own desire's and thoughts. With enough practice, when the mind abides in its natural state, unswayed, one finds Reality, or in this case Enlightenment. It's very hard to describe this state, because it is not a mental state, or of any state. It is not something conceptual. Reality is not a concept, it isn't something experienced or perceived. It can only described in terms of negation as uncaused, independent, unrelated, undivided, uncomposed, unshakable. Buddhism is quite the most misunderstood religion. It isn't direct and presented. One must analyze, investigate and meditate to understand. It's also best to add in that other ritualistic and deity worshiping addition to Buddhism were created by man for the common lay people to help them. However, they are unnecessary and irrelevant towards gaining Enlightenment, and are not part of what Buddha taught.
I love your attempts to being open to religion and to trying to find new ways of explaining. I found a few ideas in this video new to me and quite interesting. Nevertheless, I think that 11 minutes are not enough. A lot of what you said should be explained more deeply. That said, I won't "like" nor "dislike" the video, hoping that you will upload another video on this subject that is more explanatory. Thank you School of Life!
I think that we should replace religion with philosophy, because it has a scientific approach to the fudimental questions in life. There is no dogmas in philosophy and evetything can be doubted. Philosophy gives you the tools to determine what is right and what is wrong, and in doing that makes you wise and in peace with yourself. Another interesting thing is that christianity, islam and judaism incorporated a lot of ideas from Plato's philosophy. Therefor I state that the reason why christianity seem so appealing and wise is the fact that it uses Plato's philosophical ideas... Literally ( those of you familiar to Plato's philosophy are probably grinning right now).
+Rok Resnik Very true. There is a great podcast "philisophize this" and I just listened to the episode "The hellenistic age pt. 5 A race to the Dark ages" and it talks about how Plato's philosophy was incorporated into Judaism by Philo of Alexandria. Interesting stuff
+Rok Resnik philosophy is not a science, science is rather a philosophy. Philosophy is anything that you can argue for logically. Science is anything you can logically prove through observation. In logic you can take a premise to be true and have valid reasoning, if the premise cannot be proven untrue, or is proven true one can argue, whatever the argument may be for, logically
+Ahmed Zaher yes, philosophy isn't a science, but i didn't argue that it is I just said that it has a scientific approach to things. Philosophy is the mother of science. And that is very clear when you look and compare their methods. Doudt is what a philosopher does, he doubts and then makes an intelectual effort to see whether the theori in question is true. By knowing philosophy you know that in epistemology ( the area of pholosophy that is concerned with knowing) there are two dominant ways of thinking, rationalism and empirism. According to rationalism you can only acquire Knowlage through reason and logic, essentiali by a logical intelectual effort, and then there's empirism that states that the only way of acquiering Knowlage is through very carefull observation. That sort of thinking has the bassis for science. Amongst the most famous empirists are John Locke, David Hume, Francis Bacon( the father of modern science, by modern i mean science from the times of the reinessanse).
God is a man-made concept created at a time of darkness when humanity had no answers. God is a projection of our fears (God of Thunder), projection of our needs (God as a Father figure), and projection of what we want (God is all-powerful and all-knowing). As humanity outgrows the old ideas of religion hopefully well discover more truths about the universe and even perhaps a higher power. But the old ideas of religion and God are outdated for modern times.
+The Revolution That's a little beside the point that was trying to be made. The focus of this video was religion's role for comfort and spiritual guidance.
The0Skeleton123 Klayderpus I completely disagree. The History of Ideas series has not really shied away from sociological and other impersonal subjects thus far.
The0Skeleton123 Yes, but this is a series about the "history of ideas" and the School of Life has been pretty consistent in serving to that title until now. Essentially what I'm saying is that I want some qualitative consistency when comes to this thus far wonderful series.
Psalm 103:10 “He has not dealt with us according to our sins, Nor has he repaid us what our errors deserve. 11 For as the heavens are higher than the earth,So great is his loyal love toward those who fear him. 12 As far off as the sunrise is from the sunset,So far off from us he has put our transgressions. 13 As a father shows mercy to his sons,Jehovah has shown mercy to those who fear him. 14 For he well knows how we are formed,Remembering that we are dust.” Good to recall from time-to-time. . .
Nothing matters and nobody cares! That's why people need to help each other and other beings. Because there is nothing "there" at all. So only we are and our surroundings are important. Look around! That's all you (we are) have. Accept it and deal with it. Stop searching for something beyond ourselves. There is nothing more significant except us. And everybody of us is just a part of this planet, born here and will die here. So live your life with joy and dignity, because it's all we have (joy and dignity).
I have to confess. Life as an atheist seems a little boring. Aside from the fact that I think it's a bit arrogant for people to declare that there is no possibility of a higher power, there's just a dullness to it. There's no room for anything to be sacred or mysterious. No break from the cold reality of modern life. No need to consider a higher purpose for life. Or to have values that stick with you forever. It's just seems...cold and boring. No wonder people in this world end up worshipping something else...money, status, indulgence. Hell, even fandoms look like religions nowadays. I'm not a religious zealot, maybe its because religion is so deeply tied to who I am as a person. From where I come from, our religion runs through our veins. And as I walk through the glimmering metropolis around me, like everyone else, I take spiritual solace in praying nightly, in going to temple once in a while, in observing the sacred rituals and ceremonies of my ancestors. In fasting. In believing my actions MEAN something.
Ali Zaidi yeah we can choose what to believe. But I feel funny when I talked about purpose and all you guys can think is God 😂 Can you guys think about anything else? Common!
Ali Zaidi that’s what you need to ask yourself. We’re living in a world with so many issues and all you can think about is god. It’s not even a thing I think about. Read more, study more...and open your mind man. Ask yourself what human need to have a better future, what a human need to feel happier. You don’t need any religion to answer that, that’s knowledge.
they never say that. they propose that capitalism isn't perfect and can be improved, not that it is immoral and we should all be Marxists. according to them, Marxism in today's world would actually be very impractical. do you even School of Life, bro?
Good video. I'm not religious, and I don't have the cash, but if I did, I would have no problems sending my children to Catholic school. I don't mind them learning about Christianity while at the same time receiving, in most cases, a better education than what public schools in the U.S. dish out nowadays.
+Leon612 It's a waste of money, and if you send them there their just end up believing it. So I would just advise you to send them to public school; teach them to write, read, and make them watch some documentaries in their spare time. If you this I think their end up nicely rounded.
you should, us catholics were the first create a school system, and we have really good schools, you don't have to be religious and neither do you're children. There is a possibility that they could be converted, but again they might not.
I doubt Catholics were the first to create a school system maybe the modern type we use today, and this has noting to with them being good.Although they are good, and you're right about you not needing to be religious to be excepted, but that doesn't mean you won't be judged once you get their. I remember my aunt sent her daughter to one, and they allows talked about her behind her back because she was a single mother. Could image if she was an atheist.
dare colbert actually yes we did, in fact almost all public school systems were bsed on ours, of course ours isn't as lazy and ignorant, almost all children under the Catholic School system are above public school students. Before us only the rich ad powerful were educated and it was often with a private tutor, or even later then that it a tribal thing.
Funny that after leaving religion, having taken 12 yrs to exit, I had, myself, come to the same conclusion; that the human existence desperately needed one single thing that should never be erased from any culture, and that thing is hope. İn order for us to be able to bear the burden of existing, we all need a form of hope, or at least something to "look forward to," whether it be an after life or a session at our canvas painting.
Whatever religion may say, people must keep their sanity and listen to reason.... There should not be any conflict between religion and science, as one deals with morality and culture and the other with facts on working of the universe. There are creation myths from around the world... They tried their best to answer questions which were once unexplainable... It doesn't mean that after we've found out that answer, we still stick to the old one which is not as true as the real answer provided by science. Now religions which force dogma onto its followers and make them blind to reason make humankind regress... Religions which keep claiming that their way is the only way to salvation create unwanted violence and conflicts.... Science does not say that God is unreal or anything, it does not say anything at all about God as Science is evolving... Science by its nature is always willing to correct itself and improve, which is something we can learn from Science.... I would like all of you to reason everything you know.... Ask yourself these questions and try to answer them yourself without using any religious text: 1. Who am I? Who am I really? What is the nature of my existence? 2. What am I doing here? 3. What is God? NOT "who is god" 4. What is Good? 5. What is Bad? 6. What should I do? 7. Why are there Religions? 8. What are differences among all those religions? - Here learn about all the different religions on the planet and look at the reasons why people follow them... Analyse what makes it different..... Do not give in to any kind of dogma. After you've answered these questions in chronological order without any reference to any religion, I ask you to form your own belief with those answers... Then if any religion conforms with the answers you've got, go ahead and follow it.... If not... make that your religion and keep it to YOURSELF ONLY... What may work for you may not work for someone else... and always be ready to listen to reason and do not let your religion override it!
I feel its more likely that there are more churches because there's more religion and theres more religion because people are less educated and because people are less educated they are poorer.
I doubt religion originally had the intention of helping people cope with death. Many religions had no notion of a (rewarding) afterlife. The ancient Greeks, for instance, didn't believe in a reward after death. The Greeks believed in an underworld where every person went to. The stories about the underworld are generally unpleasant, oftenly filled with people lamenting their previous decisions and at worst about people going through cruel punishments. Only the most exceptional went to a better place (Elysium). Even the Judeo-Christian religions didn't start out with the notion of a rewarding afterlife. The oldest manuscripts contain no notion of heaven or hell, those were added in with the New Testament. Judaism till this day has no official notion of an afterlife. The Torah does have some vague description of a hell (Sheol, it's like a region of darkness/nothingness), but other verses state that *everyone* goes there after death. I think that the notion of an afterlife was invented as a method to keep people from engaging in immoral behavior. The idea is that you have an authority figure that is always watching you and capable of punishing you after you die (because he sure isn't going to do it immediately).
Wow! What an incredibly mature and thought provoking view of the benefits of religion in lieu of new scientific discoveries both then and now. This is quite inspiring! Now to completely undo my good vibes by scrolling into the comments section!
Thank you so much for this one . School of Life ... as usual AdeB sounds balanced and is balanced ... As a Believer I'd say this ... "Ok . you can't or won't . obey the first command (Which is to love God) ... That's no problem for me personally . it is a big ask . so instead of arguing about it . why don't we Both just get on with the Second command . which is "Love our neighbour"? ... If I was a Church leader that's what I'd be saying ... and I'd be offering Help not hindrance to the secularists who have no time for God but Do have time for Humanity . I think Jesus was that inclusive . I think Pope Francis is that inclusive . and I would be that inclusive too ... G'or bless ye's :-)
+The School of Life This is not even a little bit balanced. Its a blatant ass licking of the benefits of Christianity with the only seriously discussed negatives being ISIS. How very contemporary of you?! If you discuss how the "ideas" of Islam have been corrupted, you must also discuss how the ideas of Jesus and have been even more corrupted. A mention od Westboro Baptist Church, or Christian conservatism, does not come close. Historically, Christian faiths have quite easily been some of the worst terrorist organisations e.g. arrogant colonialism such as the crusades, and then all the rest which I cannot even be bothered to get into anymore. Oh, plus so so many kiddy fiddling priests. The religious = wilfully ignorant.
+Tommy Applecore Religion is a tool to keep the rich and powerful rich and powerful. Examples of this include the divine right of kings from the Pharaohs of Egypt to the petty kings of medieval times. All used some claim of the divine to ensure that they would be kept in positions of wealth and power.
+Chris Tubestinks I agree with you in that what you say from a historical standpoint, but to look at how rulers throughout history apply religion to validate their sometimes tyrannical rule over others, and use this argument to say that religion in itself is something extrinsically (or even intrinsically) bad... That's a weak argument against religion. It is true that many monarchs and other leaders have used the claim of divinity or "divine right" to validate their rulership or tyranny, but the same could be said of many political ideologies. Leaders have used nationalism to justify their regimes (e.g., Bismarck, Hitler, Mussolini); or the "common good" to justify authoritarian regimes (Napoleon, Lenin); and even democracy has been misused to justify a leader's actions or their power, like in 5th century Athens or the U.S. today.
+Richie Williamson +KeMoniito12 Wow guys, way to love your neighbor. Part of why I watch this channel is to get away of the chaotic comment sections on other vids. +KeMoniito12 Christian apologetics does not mean insulting someone you think to be ignorant, even if they may be ignorant
This is one of the best pieces of knowledge that modern generations should consult, meditate, process and reflect on their day to day lifes. It would help to improove the current situation around the world.
Allah - there is no deity except Him, the Ever-Living, the Sustainer of [all] existence. Neither drowsiness overtakes Him nor sleep. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. Who is it that can intercede with Him except by His permission? He knows what is [presently] before them and what will be after them, and they encompass not a thing of His knowledge except for what He wills. His Knowledge [throne] extends over the heavens and the earth, and their preservation tires Him not. And He is the Most High, the Most Quran 2. 255 please study Islam ....
5:43 "the church was trying to hold on to something rather lovely" They weren't trying to hold on to something lovely. They were trying to hold on to illusions that no longer served a purpose or had a place in reality. But it was time for them to grow up, which is why God sent Copernicus and Galileo to set them right.
Another excellent video. Thank you. Despite being a very religious person, it is easy for me to recognize the hypocrisy within religion. That religion has been a source of a great deal, if not most, suffering in the world throughout mankind’s history. As we look back into thousands of years of scientific history, we’ve seen the ideas of scientists and philosophers change from one year to another. Scientific “facts” become, in hind-site, laughable and are updated. As this latest young “fact” will be too in my humble opinion.
Problem of religion: fundermentalism, radicalism etc. There is a method to overcome these bad effects. At the beginning religion was taught only by parents. Later on preasts took the responsibility. Now parents have outsourced it to schools, churches, temples and so on. Those are the places of radicalisation. Solution, ban all religious teachings, to minors in institutions. It is the responsibility of parents. There are still parents who do it, and they always produce balance minded, good natured children.
Allah - there is no deity except Him, the Ever-Living, the Sustainer of [all] existence. Neither drowsiness overtakes Him nor sleep. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. Who is it that can intercede with Him except by His permission? He knows what is [presently] before them and what will be after them, and they encompass not a thing of His knowledge except for what He wills. His Knowledge [throne] extends over the heavens and the earth, and their preservation tires Him not. And He is the Most High, the Most Quran 2. 255 please study Islam ....
You know as a devout Christian (but like most a reasonable one) I have to say, on balance, I didn't have too many problems with this video, I thought it was quite good. Although, I do have some minor disagreements. I think disagree with the view painted out that religion is on the verge of extinction. Compared with other parts of history it is not AS prevalent, but that isn't saying too much. Most of the world still values religion extremely, and over 85% subscribe to one religion or another. The solution to scientific discoveries contrary to previously thought isn't to get rid of it, that would be ridiculous. The solution is for the two to coincide. As many have already done, scientific advancements are just applied to religion. For example, many Christians don't have any problems with science, they fully accept it, like me. We just adjust our beliefs accordingly, and see the discovery as proving more of God's glory and beautiful design. So nothing could really replace religion in giving everyone a sense of meaning and togetherness, it would be wrong to abandon it. Of course though this is just my opinion, I might recommend making a video about how religion and science could work together and coexist? Thanks for your time, hopefully you see this
I noticed that. Some people still do. It seems like such a small god to me. No offense intended. I'm very religious at this point in my life. I have chosen my god carefully as it reflects who I am and where my life is headed. Whether it's real or a delusion does not matter to me. How I live my life and the kind of person I strive to be matters to me. That is very real. Freedom of religion, or not to believe, is very important for individual happiness and justice and stability of society.
MY FATHER IS LITERALLY A GREAT BISHOP IN MY COUNTRY & I FUCKING RESPECT THAT I HAVE SEEN SOME REAL DEEP SPIRITUAL SHIT. TRUST ME THEY DON'T WANT TO ACCEPT BUT THIS SHIT IS CULTISH & OF WHICH I AM NOT AGAINST THAT TOO BUT COME ON WHAT THE FUCK IS HELL WHEN I FEEL IT ON THE SO-CALLED HOLY GROUNDS STRAIGHT OUTTA ZIMBABWE
As an atheist, I have fully accepted science and evolution and have fully rejected religion and creation. Whilst I respect everyone’s right to believe those lies, I’d rather live with the truth.
I'm exactly the same. To me it's obvious that religion sprouted due to ignorance and the common people wanting an explanation for the world without the resources or knowledge to do so (also coping and giving people a "meaning for life"). Then as societies grew it started to be utilized as a method for law and control
@@gron4058 Thankfully, modern science came along and with smart people like Gallileo Gallilee, Stephen Hawkings, etc., I think religion is become less and less relevant.
@@gron4058 I can see why people go to church just to comfort themselves. I can respect that for now, because really, there are legit other things to get comfort from. Like movies, music, tv, video games, books, theater plays, going to game shows, concerts, literally everything else, even places like Disneyland.
@@superfrank2257 I feel the majority of it is people just wanting to feel like part of a community or part of something, although as you said there would be many other ways to do so. It also gives them a reason to be “good” people
This series was really shaping up to be amazing but this "slight" against Dawkins and the misrepresentation (or under-representation or misunderstanding) of his message and his work... Is really really disappointing.
Wow thanks for that reply. I was just now on another video. Maybe you would like Sam Harris, a friend of Dawkings, and his new book Waking Up: A Guide to Spirituality without Religion. I think he makes the important distinction between superstitious/dogmatic religion and more mystical experiential mind training, if I could put it that way, which answers the need for religion and is also compatible with secular atheism (lot of stuff from eastern philosophy, Buddhism, etc) You're right that Richard doesn't talk about alternatives and he doesn't address the worlds religions with much respect (I guess I'm not one to mind but I understand) Again thank you, I was so surprised.
+The School of Life Oh, please. I love your channel, and can even appreciate a dig about Dawkins. I just think it's disingenuous to, on one hand, be so patronizing about religious belief - certain it will die off as an illusion from humanity's childhood; and then go on to imply Dawkins isn't doing anything constructive to fill the void. That's not his job. He is still busy fighting theism. Naturally, Dawkins is unkind in his critiques, because he is motivated by a passion to defend nothing less than evolutionary biology - from disgraceful christian conservative forces whose unfathomable influence has allowed creationism and intelligent design to be taught, together with evolution, in state schools. Dawkins' isn't supposed to be nice. He has way to much to do. And, while the rest of us come up with meaningful ways to live without religion, we ought to thank god for him. ; )
+ellie rain I wouldn't call the video patronising, rather constructive. In fact I'd say childhood to adulthood is a good comparison; clarity perceiving the world increases, along with one's responsibility to navigate life in it alone, without certain hope.
+The School of Life People like him made me and many other young unknowing atheists think it is okay to be an atheist. The option pre-Dawkins was to keep your unbelief to yourself.He made atheists feel like they are not alone and should not remain in the closet. Other people like Daniel Dennet worry about the question of community post-religion, an equally important question. But Dawkins should not be beaten down for not focusing on that question, his contribution is indeed significant in making atheism seem normal in society and in demanding political respect for non-religious people.
Caseius Tea no, i agree with you - and that's a lovely way to put it, and what comes next, how we face life; though i do think it's simplistic to think of religion as something you just grow out of. religion and the concept of God is also deeply genetic (denial of mortality, if you will). and concepts of God are far more vast than most secular people realize. for instance, the whole reason Yawhen/Jehovah gets that name is its incomprehensible (you can't pronounce it in Hebrew), unknowable, ineffable, etc. as you can tell, i LOVE Dawkins. wrote a paper on him. idolize him. but he doesn't get it, either. we CAN'T understand or know everything, no matter how far science advances. there are paradoxes of existence that are simply impossible for the human brain to make logical sense out of. (for instance, Xeno's paradox related to time, what's called the mathematical "proof" of god. the fact that if time goes back endlessly as we imagine -because what comes before the beginning if there's a beginning, the other alternative - if time keeps going, we could never get here. that kind of thing. doesn't compute. so that's the stuff we call God. or that feeling of faith and significance of patterns in one's life - that is built-in. we DO find ways of coping with what we don't know, as you say. and largely, they are STILL arguably religious in a sense. believing things will work out. believing life has meaning though it has no objective meaning, believing in our own importance, etc. i'm with these guys. just adding a critique.
The video implies that Mary is central to Christianity as a blanket statement. I think it's important to qualify that this is true only for Catholicism and maybe Orthodox. Protestant groups generally hold Mary as being dramatically less significant. Also, the bible doesn't actually say anywhere that the earth in 6000 years old. That was an idea started by someone who guessed his way through genealogies and misreading the old testament. Even in the first century AD, no one actually thought the old testament was literally true, they knew that the old testament stuff was designed as symbolic and thematic versions of history. The biblical literalism actually developed far later.
Beautifully said....we need religion...when we have to desperately hold on to the last strands called hope. We need religion to comfort us as Karma...we need religion and our Gods and idols to direct our hearts in times of hopelessness and despair because there is no alternative. We need to believe that there is a Goodness out there and it will Destroy the evil and restore what has been lost. Science and rationality for all its theories and explanations can never achieve this objective of Hope, Courage and Comfort
Religion can be used to explain the mysterious, but now that most such mysteries have been solved by science and reason, and such true explanations have been available for years in books and websites (in the developed world) for all to learn, clinging to farcical religious notions as history is looking increasingly ignorant. I agree: religion was invented and sometimes works well to calm fears of the unknown. Thus gods spring from ignorance. But any salutary effect is completely nullified and even far outweighed by the tendencies of religions themselves to _inspire_ fear through devils, demons, witches, and such bugaboos. And to produce wars, human sacrifices, torture, slavery, rape, injustice and the tolerance of injustice, and a chilling effect on freedom of speech and inquiry when it inevitably conflicts with traditional orthodoxies built on sand. Teach kids that they are the end of an eons-long line of successful survivors, and that humans are the most interesting and accomplished species to have ever evolved on Earth. Don't teach them that their life has meaning only in relation to some god.
You don't have a clue as to what exactly you're talking about. I can tell you've never read the bible. I can also tell you don't have a clear understanding of science or understand human nature. You lack critical thinking skills and are too lazy to learn that which you've been told is a waste of time. You have some serious reading to do, start here "101 facts and foreknowledge". btw, you give humans way too much credit, "successful survivors"? In the beginning all we had to do was pick food up and eat it. lol
See Truth Lemme see if I got this right: some all-powerful and all-knowing being poofed this gazillion-star universe into existence. Then, 2,000 years ago, when the universe was 13.7 billion years old; the Earth 4.5 billion years old, and humanity was 50,000 years old, this "god" came slumming to Earth and, without asking, raped and knocked-up an ignorant, betrothed Jewish teen in a backwater society where questionable paternity might get you shunned or stoned. She then gave birth to the very "god" who bunned her oven, in the form of a squalling, breast-feeding, diaper-pooping "baby" (he was actually older than the universe), who grew up and, although he was all-powerful and eternal, got killed. But then he revivified like a zombie and floated away. But he left us words revealing that all the good people who lived before ever hearing of him, and all the good people who did hear but wanted more evidence, and all the good people who believed in a different "god"...they're all dead and being tortured with fire right now or soon will be. Uhhh...I've read the bible twice and dozens of books of commentary. Also dozens of books of science. I know things about the bible and science and philosophy that you are not only ignorant of, but _you are not allowed to know_.
You can believe whatever you want. Don't affect the life of others and don't impose your religion. Let religion and government be separated. Always search for the truth, facts and confirm your believes and ideas.
Truly, Religion was an attempt by humans to answer things happening around them on which they didn't have control. Like Rains, Earthquakes, death etc. Here I like to appreciate What Buddha presented to world - a simple explanation " Desire is the root cause of all sorrows". Indeed what we see now & then, our expectations are only who gives us disappointments. But in a world of competition, desires what keep ourselves live!!!!
If you add up the birth years of the genealogies in the Bible you get to an earth under 10,000 years old because people have accounted for many things, but it's usually somewhere around 6000 years ago. You can either follow the Bible and reject science or follow science and reject the Bible
The problem is how religion is pushed in to our faces everywhere. cant even take a breath without hearing about it. Its mandotory in alot of communities. it annoys me to another level.
"Professor? Is this all real? Or is it just happening inside my head?" "Of course it’s happening inside your head, Harry. Why should that mean that it’s not real?"
Wonderful as always TSoL. I'd love for you guys to address mass migration through the ages and how those situations worked out. Is there anything we can learn from history?
Great video! There was only an inaccuracy I thought I should point out. This video pushes some misconceptions many people have about the Bible. The Bible does not teach or say in any of its 66 books that the earth is 6,000 years old. The Roman Catholic Church and subsequent sects pushed this idea but here we draw the difference between what the Bible says and what Religion teaches. I’ve had the honor of studying the Bible for many years. Truly it has proven to be very advanced for it’s time. No hate comments. Love your channel! Very well done.
My mother is a deep believer in the Hindu religion. I don't believe in any of it. But when I didn't do well in school and my mother was extremely anxious about my future, she would pray a lot and visit a temple. It's in her nature to worry a lot. After her prayers her despair would be replaced with hope. Even though I'm still not a believer I appreciate what religion has given her.
Thank you school of life for this video.
+Sanker Narayanan That's the very same thing I have seen with my grandmother. She believes that God and her prayers are what have taken me far in life but I'm standing there like 'It was me.'
I can totally relate to this.
Whenever I get an urge to argue with my mother regarding the irrationality of her beliefs in prayers, I remind my self how it gives her comfort and provides her with meaning.
She can't be expected to change her worldviews and abandon her sole source of peace at this point in her life now. I'd rather just let her be happy...
This guy get's it.
AB Crane sex isn't the center of everything, even if you feel that way.
AB Crane
this was the most disgusting thing i've heard in my life. Like sex is solution to any problem for any kind of people.
While reading these comments, it's quite obvious that the problem is not religion, but instead, close-minded, moral absolutists who wish to impose their ideologies on everyone else. Moral absolutism is not a characteristic that is exclusive to those who embrace religion. It's also embraced by those who embrace nationalism, secularism, patriotism, or any kind of political ideology. Just let people be.
Exactly, in a way, this narrator is imposing his athiest ideology on us and is being very condescending of theists. There is no compulsion in religion, and he should express his views as his opinion-- and not fact
Ali Al-Ali but this is real research 🤔 I don’t get how facts can be opinions
Ali Al-Ali Religion not imposed on others? Like teaching creationism in school?
No, this is about people rejecting reality for fiction. You can believe Whatever, but science and facts are first and will always be true. If you have an issue with that study up, get a degree, and start experimenting to disprove what you feel is wrong.
@@declaringpond2276 you are basically just doing the same thing he is speaking against
I like the phrase "humanity is painfully ended its childhood" when we discover cosmic science.
Steve Olivera I literally hate science, it’s the ultimate manifestation of the ego of man, I hate how science demands all of its claims to be true and be accepted without question or thought to the validity and purpose and meaning and intention of the people releasing the information... of cosmic science and all of the intellectual linear languages of arithmetic do nothing on bringing well being, health, joy, freedom, life, peace to humanity and earth... than it is only causing HARM, it’s adding fuel to the fire of confusion and pain and suffering to humanity... all of life is a gift and the fact you have to pay fake money for water, food, shelter, etc is a clear sign of a deal with the devil...
NASA literally creates fake 3D computer generated images of “outer space” and far away galaxies and universes that do nothing to make the world a better place... it’s like a global prank set up by “the elite” to see how stupid and gullible the masses are to trick, while they all laugh “can you believe they actually think there was a moon landing ahaha”
@@camerontaylor7471 so you are a flat earther.
Totally true tho
@@camerontaylor7471 Just say you're a dumb idiot who can't solve simple arithmetical problems. That's what a salty loser would say about science, it's because you can't grasp it. Take a book and read
This video sums up my life of recent years. I have abandoned 2 years of
Computer Science to pursue a degree that acknowledges my interest in
religions. I'm beginning this degree very soon, to hear this video is so
informative and inspiring.
and id like to say that I love and appreciate the work you people put in your videos. Your videos are most definitely having an impact on what I'd like to be in the future.
From my experience, religious people are some of the most happiest people I have seen. Ajahn Brahm/TH-cam for example. In my opinion science will never be the answer to happiness and contentment. I believe that either a life of simplicity or a form of religious/philosophical dedication is the answer to contentment and happiness.
Religion teaches selflessness, far from science such as technology which has made us more selfish.
Technology and science are far from evil though, with the declining interest in religion we just need to find balance with it.
+Ian Ol Read "Shall the religious inherit the world." Its just one of many books that state how secular people have stopped having families and in a result children, So the only youth brought into the world is through religious people. (And migrants which tend to be religious as well.) Europes secularization may be reversed in 30 years, and the children born to religious parents are starting to be more resistant to secular ideals. Maybe through genetics that favor religious tendencys. (Two books that cover genetics and religion include the God Gene, and Evolution of God.)
***** Laughably wrong? What's wrong here is your statement, it doesn't add to this conversation and it's plain ignorant. I can admit I am in favor of religion over science because its my interest/passion. Technically the last two years I was into science, I'm confident in that if I studied it more, I would be bias towards the sciences in my comment.
Science vs religion like any debate has two sides and neither side with all its people is ever laughably wrong once they are in the grounds of reason and fact. I have not come near this ground as I can factually back up most of my comment.
Michael Smith That's interesting. Thanks for sharing.
Have a few questions.
How can genetics favor religious tendency’s though? I always thought religion is either impressed on us or learnt by an individual.
Also if religious people are having more children, why is religion on the decline? In Ireland Christianity has decreased by 60% in recent years.
***** Keeping in mind that contentment is one of the highest forms of happiness. Ie drugs can make you temporarily happy, money and possessions are temporary happiness, children and partners isnt all rosy and happy the whole time either. Temporary happiness creates desire and unhappiness. Ive been there like everyone else. Saved for 3 months for an iphone. So unhappy for a while that I didn’t have it, got the iphone eventually.
Guess what, It only made me happy for a few hours before I wanted the next thing. Nearly everyone is in this unhappy cycle of desire. If you can escape this desire then, can't you or I be more happy. This is why I said simple life or religion = happiness.
Ajahn Brahm, that guy I mentioned, he's a Buddhist monk who has nothing and seems so content and happy. No, you don’t have to be a monk but some form of religious dedication can lead to a happier simpler life. Then again I'm sure that religion hasn't made everyone happy too. But it can be said like the above video that as science has explained a lot, it still isnt a replacement for the consoling effects of religion. These consoling effects in my opinion would be of great comfort to those leading high pressure lives.
You are right that science and religion is not happiness, that's a small percentage though. Keep in mind that science creates a lot of this temporary happiness with each release of a new gadget.
In your opinion, what does a person need to be happy?
+Akashi Seijuro Thanks for sharing! I was just wondering, I'm a psychology student, about your experience in Africa, and what did religion do for you while you were there? I.e did it fill a need you had? Help you get through the tough times while you were there? I'm just curious because I'm studying ways people cope with bad situations right now and if any of those questions are too personal definitely don't answer. Thanks!
Finally someone talking about religion in a productive, rather than passive-aggressive or defensive way!
***** I think the main problem with the way that many people address religion is that they are very emotional about it: they either love or hate it, and because of that instead of looking at religion and describing it, they either defend or attack it without realising what it truly means.
@@jasonschneijder2012 That is because the only leg region has to stand IS emotion. There is not evidence, logic, or reason used in believing any religion. Religion/Theology is believed solely on faith, which by definition, is the belief in something without sufficient evidence; leaving one susceptible to emotional hi-jacking .
@@mjfraser04 and for the so-called christians they call it faith. but when they don't have the amount to add up even to a grain of mustard seed's worth then is it any wonder that so many call bs? for that is all it takes according to their so called leader, 'and nothing shall be impossible unto u.'
if they'd shut up, most others would shut up. but like my ol' pop used to say, 'if they shut up,their ass would fly open.'
@@mjfraser04 Human beings have emotions, and their emotions are powerful forces in their lives, so I'm not sure what your point is. Hardcore rationalism isn't exactly taken seriously by most intellectuals now days.
Magnulus76 My point was...What other way CAN someone talk about religion other than emotional? Unless the HISTORY of it (religion) is discussed, or it is used as an Aesop’s Fable, in what other context can religion be discussed without using emotion (as the OP tried stated when he tried to sound like a condescending pew ace maker). There is no logic, Reason, Scientific method, or Evidence used in the religion of religious texts. So one must use FAITH. Which what people use to believe something without using any of the above pathways to truth that I listed above. Faith IS by definition...emotional.
And most people on the planet are not “intellectuals”. So your last sentence is a fallacy. Meaningless.
5:38 my Favorite part....
“It’s tempting to laugh at the Catholic Church but the church is trying to hold on to something rather lovely that had served humankind well; the idea of our cosmic significance; the idea that we matter; that someone out there cares. Copernicus and Galileo's theories are like the very painful end of the childhood-of-mankind.** Their discoveries that we are but a tiny forgotten meaningless blue dot in the randomness of space, is akin to a child discovering that his or her parents are in truth, really unimportant in the scheme of things. A new existential terror will echo down the ages from these scientific discoveries we are still dealing with. "
"Instead of denouncing the marginal and absolutely ephemeral character of humanity within an immense and very ancient universe, it should be explained that in a smaller and younger universe our appearance would not have been possible, since there would be no time to "cook" the elements necessary for life on a low heat "(Owen Gingerich, astronomist).
Well that's what is called growing up
How are you?
But we have no cosmic significance, religion preaches hope where there is nothing to hope for and fear where there is nothing to fear.
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What an outstandingly mature and thoughtful piece, you were stepping on landmines and made it look like an elegant dance.
+Mongol JJ indeed
I completely disagree.. Especially the part where they strawman Richard Dawkins, and misrepresent the actual numbers of what is a "fringe" of Islam...
Mongol JJ while I am a strong believer of God you are completely right he did say it to were in no extent was I angry or even offended by what he is saying because it is true that the Bible is not literally true and it is true that we are using it mainly if not fully for comfort
in hindu there are 33 crore bhagwaan.
then also they say that my religion is truth.
hahahahahaha
Well said
Religion itself isn't the problem. Dogma and blind allegiance is. It's just that religion is more likely to align itself with dogma. It's troubling to have certainty without basis of facts. Science alone doesn't bear facts. We must never ignore this. Phrenology was once s science.
+inquisitive871 well said
+inquisitive871 The difference between science and religion is that science is willing to change in the face of new evidence. Phrenology was a theory, but it was eventually proven to be nonsense, so science gave up on it and moved on. We are never done with learning.
+inquisitive871 My concern is that people follow science, or what they call "science" as if it was a religion. They believe that the bad religion "religion" must be eliminated, and through "science" the world will be magically plentiful and peaceful. It's the same old abrahamic monotheistic idea "if it doesn't match our dogma it must be wrong" in disguise.
+Douglas Phillips Science is just a tool or a set of methods . You don't know what you're talking about. The world clearly would be a better place without deluded minds, yes. But no - no reasonable person wishes to take away freedom of religion. However, when religion permeates society and important decisions, prohibits progress regarding education and critical thinking, and is forced upon, then we have a big fucking problem.
blatherskite You obviously misunderstand my statement. When you say, "you don't know what you're talking about" please take he time to understand what I'm talking about. It is not the use of science as a method of inquiry, but when viewed like a religion it's self that I have a problem. This can be doubly troublesome because they won't realize that they are practicing science as a religion. There are plenty of unreasonable people and if its a mob of science fans or a mob of god fans they are equally deluded. Science isn't the problem, religion isn't the problem, stupid people are the problem.
"Science now makes it almost impossible for any intelligent person to believe in the Bible as literally true." Damn that's a hard one to swallow
Except now they use the very device created with science to further their adventures in to the idiot hole,yea the very science they are up in arms against for stating the earth is a sphere...
But intelligent people can still believe in the Bible as being metaphorically true
@@eliteslayer001The use of 'metaphorically true' is truly idiotic.
Its true believing in something without evidence makes you silly.. With that said whoever created these religions was smart, as creativity is a sign of intelligence.
@@John-996 They could also just be delusional/ high as fuck. A lot of religious and spiritual experiences have been speculated to be caused by psychedelics or hallucinations. Stephen Pinker even mentions a theory, in his book,Enlightenment Now", that argues that Christianity emerged from mushrooms. Its wild.
For those who say that science will never be the answer to finding happiness and contentment, I agree.
But do not limit yourself with social conventions such as religion. Instead; unravel your ever expanding mind with a pursuit of *Truth*.
Truth the bitter medicine that we all need but hate!
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@@gaunterodimm3569 hatred is not the best consular.
I suggest personal search for enlightenment which is independent of any religion's influence.
Entertainment is expanding so it will fill in the holes. Religion isn't for anyone. All religions have their fair share of practicing and non-practicing adherents.
This is seriously my new favorite channel. You guys have equal amounts of compassion and intellect. It is wonderful.
Caveat emptor. A very superficial, reductionist etiology of religious origins, and anachronistic--right out of Feuerbach.
Read Evelyn Underhill, Rudolf Otto, Carl Jung, Mircea Eliade, Ian Stevenson, but especially "The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind" by Julius Jaynes.
The type of Huxlyan atheism presented here was very popular in the 19th century. The biblical literalism refuted by science didn't become doctrinaire until the middle ages in Europe; the ancient fathers and rabbis never heard of it!
I'm an Atheist and I thought this was a wonderful explanation of religion...
What about the part ~9:50 where he implies Atheists would need something to replace 'charity'... as if atheists are incapable of giving to / starting a charity?
@@Onoesmahpie that’s not what he was implying because he said it would be replaced by a welfare state which is the redistribution of wealth in a uniform and equal way that would benefit society rather than people choosing where the money goes which can create an imbalance and sometimes just go to the salaries of managers and CEOs. It’s not that he says atheists/agnostics aren’t be capable of generosity, it’s that some might want to apply it in a different way than direct funds.
Yea this is what Religion should be about but human greed and ego can't even follow thier chosen Religion
Not really, in order to understand religions you need to read the original scriptures instead of relying on a biased source trying to further its agenda. Try it get out of your comfort zone and seek knowledge from the right places.
The guy who makes these videos is an atheist.
If aliens ever come to earth and ask to learn about humankind we should just show them this channel.
But not this video in less we want them to be misrepresented
@@Justin.Martyr lol, Did you need to take your straight jacket off to write that.
Brian Downs, Justin Martyr might be crazy! He might go off the deep end.
No
Of course yeah!
Please do a series on mythologies around the world.
Yes, that would be interesting if they do that.
Yes, this please! Mythologies and how their culture is reflected in those stories.
Yes. Please.
I mean Religions are just organized myths, so he covered a lot of myths already in this episode
Anon Not true about all religions. Have you read all religious scriptures to be making such a tall and absolute claim?
Basically, respecting othets' believes, as long as they are not 'imposing' upon others, seems to be the right approach for the timebeing...Thsnk you! I love your talks!! Teresa
If only we could trust ANY religion to not impose their ideas and beliefs on others. It’s in the DNA of a religion to spread the word.
I'm so glad I can hear people say religious stuff and just not give a shit. Otherwise I'd be like one of the hundreds of people in the comments fighting a futile and tedious argument. Enjoy your gods or atheism or whatever you believe, just don't force any of your shit on me and we'll be fine.
So u r the special 1 they talk of?
Shady Grady nah the 1 who is different than everyone on youtube.
Shady Grady nice to talk to you finally.
Shady Grady absolutely. especially the special ones.
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That was a great argument.
People need to know that although throughout history many leaders have Used (abused) the power of religion to accomplish their goals ; it's not tge true nature of religion.
It's very simple to relate all terrors and wars of our modern era to religion, but that's not the main purpose of religion.
We need to understand the need of religion for self improvement and try to integrate it in our modern lives.
I consider myself a Muslim but my modern life in Canada doesn't allow me to follow all Islamic rules nor I seek the need to do that, but still I find it very useful to have this religious beliefs and it has helped me a lot.
sorry I believe you didn't read carefully, I said I'm not willing to obey all islamic rules because they interfere with the modern life that I chose to live, and I think that's the case for many other religions too, it's kind of impossible to follow all the rules of specific religion in this era, and I think it's not necessary to do that, but why not use those parts of religion which helps you spiritually based on your need?
also I have lived in islamic republic of Iran and I think forcing religious rules is ridiculous in any country because religion should be something for each persons's individual life.
+ice19278 because islam ordered to respect the rôles of the country where we live in, the first message of islam is pleace, in order to not ruin peace and create anarchy,you need to respect the civil laws.
+ice19278 I think that considering living in a multiracial country with different beliefs and cultures,it wouldnt be the best place to live in if you have to follow the rules that only a minor of the population believes in that religion.So for example,if I were to implement the Sharia law in country X,I'll need the(lets say parliament or congress)has to agree to it and its citizens to should give their opinion on it whether they accept it or not.
+sepehr jamali
I agree. I'm Canadian as well and a Hindu. I don't strictly follow every rule of my religion. But I feel like it's a part of my soul, of who I am to at least be religious in some sense.
+James Bond
In what way is the second point related to the first point? It not being true, in your opinion, has nothing to do with whether or not it has helped his life.
I'm not an atheist, nor religious. I do however, believe that love, hope, piece... God and spirituality... are all very real and important things. Science takes a mathematical and physical evidence approach to understand the world. Spirituality takes an emotional, moral and intangible approach. Both are important for human kind.
Best channel out there at the moment.
Of this category i aggree
+Daniel H Wisecrack is pretty good too.
***** Huh...? This channel goes over quite a few intellectual ideas ya know?
***** Stop saying sorry. From a DMX song "Sorry niggas say sorry, you learn to apologize"... furthermore, you have nothing to apologize about. I was simply pointing out this channel has quite an intellectual point of view often times as well ya know? I come off brash, but that's because I don't have time to mince words. I kind of get irritated when people just don't say what they mean. Never apologize for how you feel, only apologize for actions that you may have taken that you disagree with when you look at things critically. :) have a good day friend.
***** Just a guy doing his thing ;)
Buddhism is more a philosophy and a way of life than a religion.
Lol religion is a way of life.
+LittleGamer Momo (LittleGamerMomo) Yes, Religion is supposed to be a way of life or philosophical etc. But who's practicing that? Humans of course with their Intellect and capacity. You didn't get the point of my previous answer
+Rahmo Elmi Ok, I think I figured out why your reply is so confusing. You're essentially positing a bad syllogism. "All religion is a way of life" "Buddhism is a way of life" "therefore Buddhism is a religion". This line of thinking doesn't work for many reasons. Most notably the suggestion that religion is solely a way of life or that any "way of life" is somehow religious or that a "philosophy and way of life" can't be detached from religion. All of these suggestions are false. First, religion is not solely a "way of life". It's a complex web of ideas, beliefs, rituals, writings, symbolism, art, architecture etc. Religion is defined in very specific ways. It's not so nebulous as "a way of life". Second, Just because Buddhism (or anything else) is "a way of life", doesn't automatically make it a religion. One could define "a way of life" in many different ways that has nothing to do with religion. Last, I think the distinction between Buddhism's "philosophy and a way of life" and religion is that most Buddhists are atheist. Buddhism isn't about believing in god or gods. The historical Buddha taught that believing in gods was not useful for those seeking enlightenment. That's why most people disqualify Buddhism as a true religion. God belief is the foundational qualifier to define something as a religion. For these reasons, I personally don't consider Buddhism a religion. Like Richard said, it's more a philosophy and way of life.
+Ajay Raghavendra not relevant though, is it?
+ajay raghavendra you cant really go around saying that, if thats your opinion then so be it... believe me, certain people in religion can be a lot smarter and experienced than the common atheist
Ancient people used religion to explain what they couldn't understand.
But now we are practicing those old religions without updating them.
If you mean, for example, like in ancient egypt in which sun is worshipped as a God (since they didnt understand what is that powerful thing) then Yes..its a belief but not a Religion.
While people like Jesus, Buddha etc did exist and were sent by God to spread their lessons~ Then later they become Religions~
Even until now we still do not know what happened in the afterlife and what is the purpose of life. So religion is definitely not outdated~
jjjb01 religion is one part of the holy trinity, all civilizations maintain a government, religion, and military in order to implement human slavery on a mass scale... the biblical prophets and there prophecies is the history and instruction manual for how take a free man of nature and turn him and his future children(that’s you and me FYI) into a willing slave celebrating there broken will and slavery. We are all metaphorically Jesus Christ sacrificing our lives/souls in civilization(hell) joining satan and becoming a fallen angel destroying nature(cars, concrete, paper, oil, etc) to bring the apocalypse. It’s a self fulfilling prophecy and we are pawns on the chessboard...
jjjb01 life has no purpose or meaning, if it did then we would all be forced to live and act out whatever purpose or meaning, which would void all free will. The only purpose to life is to create a unique and original soul and to maintain the health and vitality of our bodies, the people and life around us including nature/earth so all life can live in peace and harmony and LIVE forever more
@@camerontaylor7471 you know there are many people used Religions in the wrong way or for their own purposes. I believe all religions teachings are great. They look bad bcs many people manipulated them~
I appreciate your point of view about life. I do agree that we need to maintain that. We were blessed with brain and heart to progress more in our life~ And to be kind and have good moral. And then we also have Soul..which is our very true form~ So we need to also take care of our soul so one day when we die and leave our body behind we can trace back our way to God
Thank you so much for sharing this wonderful perspective! I had once been very enthusiastic in the church I had been raised in. Now, I hold a much more skeptical view. Even still, I have had to come to terms with what I had lost (whether real or imagined).
Today, I believe religion is much like money. It is simply a tool that others will use in what ever way truly reflects their character. If you a good, kind, charitable person, going to church will help you become more of those things. If you are a fearful, judgmental, hateful person, then going to church will also help you there as well.
Wow, the history of religion in 11 minutes. I feel like this was a drunken bet made in a pub.
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Here here👏 Well said. Richard Dawkins? Really?
Better than blindly believe some scripts on so-called "holy books", i will hear this drunken man rather than some people too much comforting themselves with the opium of the masses.
Everyone in the world needs to watch this. Again and again, if necessary.
Why? A very superficial, reductionist etiology of religious origins, and anachronistic--right out of Feuerbach.
Read Evelyn Underhill, Rudolf Otto, Carl Jung, Mircea Eliade, Ian Stevenson, but especially "The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind" by Julius Jaynes.
The type of Huxlyan atheism presented here was very popular in the 19th century. The biblical literalism refuted by science didn't become doctrinaire until the middle ages in Europe; the ancient fathers and rabbis never heard of it!
This makes me appreciate the beauty of all of the religions in the world, the ideas they have, their similarities and differences, and the community they do to people, the morals they tried to teach to make people as good persons, and the beauty of their traditions, art, culture, etc. I am a Christian Catholic, but I am not religious but kind of spiritual, and I also try to have open mind when discussing religion or dealing with other's religions and ideas, because above all of the ideas I learned as a Catholic is that "I should love my brothers and sisters as I love myself" and it is a hard thing to do, a hard process to perform, a hard challenge to perfect, but still I constantly try to do it. I also kind of practice the good things that other religions do and teaches about morality, how to live a good life, and how to be a good person. I also appreciate the role of religions as social and cultural structures that provides us something that we still look for and struggle as human beings that modern science and technology can't sometimes offer, and the gave people relief, assurance, be at ease, and to continue to live a good life. The only problem with religion for me is how they divide people, how they fight against one another through ideas and their hold on for their faith, the killings they did to people in the past, how some force people to believe in their faith, and how religions teach children to just belief in a strict linear path seriously, to be close-minded to other ideas and beliefs, to have prejudices about other's beliefs, to be intolerant of others in other beliefs, to control the entire life and future of their children, to not respect other's beliefs, and to think that they are the most special human beings and other people are not and that the only way to save ourselves is to strictly believe in our beliefs and to do and save others by forcing them to convert. All social and cultural things we have always have pros and cons with them making them not perfect, whether religion, art, language, technology, etc. There's nothing in this world and in our human existence and culture that only have good side without potentials of being bad, used for evil, or be imperfect. Technology, science, religion, and even society all have their pros and cons, their potentials to be bad, used for evil and immorality, and to always be perfectly imperfect part of our reality, and this is also what religion tries to say, that amidst the imperfections and of not having perfectly good and complete things in our world, there's still that perfect thing that awaits us whether called heaven, afterlife, resurrection, nirvana, moksha, enlightenment, spiritual liberation, freedom from suffering of life, etc. .
This is by far the best comment. I very much agree with every word you say, and this is how/what I believe. I am a Christian. And I believe other religions are so beautiful and the thoughts, ideas, rituals, and experiences they’ve invoked on us. Terrorists no matter what religion do the thing that all religions try to tell us not to do! I’m in my beginning of studying the major 3 religions, and their origins. And no matter what science says, there is something that we can’t see and probably can’t be measured and it’s god. It’s not a “Man in the sky”. God is so much more, “he” is literally everything. And it makes sense that we as humans see god as a human, what else would we see god as? You know, for us to even become humans, and for earth to be bombarded with meteors, and formed in the sun with just the right conditions to form life let alone complex life is amazing. All religions and their goal for the greater good of humanity is beautiful. If we could all love each other and forgive, the world would be a much better place.
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@@ruthvillaroya3585 To every religious soul out there:
BIBLE (KJV)
John 10:1
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber.
Ephesians 5:11
And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.
John 14:6
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
Hebrews 9:27
And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:
As a Bible teacher, this was interesting, thanks.
Has this changed your teachings in the past 11 months? If so how?
i wish you made some money from it
"Religion may well have been a deep illusion but it was an important one." That's how I felt when I became an atheist.
I grew up in an abusive home. 'The meek shall inherit the earth' meant a lot to me. I'd read the bible a lot and to this day I can recite quotes that my parents hadn't even read.
Reading 'Thus Spoke Zarathustra' helped me when I became an apostate. Religion is an analgesic for existential grief more than anything else. To know you exist and your life and sufferings are acknowledged and maybe rewarded.
Thank you for always bluntly and rationally addressing even the most controversial topics. It is unbelievably common in other media for the narrative to resort to being peppered with disclaiming language or waltzing around stating things as a definitive fact, so as not to offend. Perhaps that is why I've found that SoL content has been an impressively effective informative resource; you are clearly putting into focus ideas that seem to naturally align with my own on a number of subjects.
Religion was created cuz people are afraid to say: i dont know
Plus it generally gives meaning where nothing else can't
It’s so refreshing to hear a secularist speak with tenderness, love, and compassion in the midst of the “new atheist” frenzy which stirred such hatred, arrogance, anger and bitterness. Thank you Alain
To quote CS Lewis, "I believe in Christianity as I believe that the sun has risen; not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything else".
Peter Pade baya iyi 👏🏽
That’s poetic and ironic
@Peter Pade: so it can be said for every religion. "I believe in (__insert religion here__) that the sun has risen; not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything else".
I love watching these videos while I am working out...it eases the pain
It’s funny how most people barely know anything about their own religions but are still willing to argue for hours to defend them.
This is an important video. It reflects a deep understanding of man's nature and religion that few secularists and fundamentalists possess.
I would argue that philosophy is the most important ingredient to have a good life with peace in mind for those turning away from religion.
And with Dawkins' approach, I also fear the "Brave New World" scenario. I imagine he's read that book, but the point is, when science and pleasure replace God, you also lose humanity. Humans are only human when we struggle, and God is needed in that struggle. I DON'T mean the Abrahamic God, either. I'm a Pantheist, so everything is God to me.
I was just thinking about this, really well said!
Nice one
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The description about Dawkings's view is a little narrow, but this video is a wonderful thing, and this channel gives "faith" back to mankind. Thank you very much
I believe that both religion and science are very important to be knowledgeable in. One provides answers to what the other cannot. A person loses a large part of there humanity when they are only religious or only scientific.
+5martgir14ever Eh, no.
I live in one of the poorest countries in the world and I'm one of the few who are privileged enough to be an atheist. It's true the fear and love of God is really helpful for poor countries. In a way religion is still government in my country. It keeps the peace.
Yes. Exactly. Now that I am old. If only you were around when I was young. Much modern discussion is with someone who is angry. No one likes anger or hate. The truth of your words shows because you are at peace with yourself and the world. There is no hate or anger in your voice. Keep up the good work.
I am with you, but the biggest stupidity is that you think the world came about by chance
The remarks on Buddha weren't quite correct. His goal isn't to "abandon" suffering or pain of the world through mental practices. In fact, he says the very search for comfort and satisfaction is "WHY" we suffer. We suffer because we want things, because we want a lasting happiness in a world of transient phenomena. Meditation is simply to still the mind, to stay mindful of one's own desire's and thoughts. With enough practice, when the mind abides in its natural state, unswayed, one finds Reality, or in this case Enlightenment. It's very hard to describe this state, because it is not a mental state, or of any state. It is not something conceptual. Reality is not a concept, it isn't something experienced or perceived. It can only described in terms of negation as uncaused, independent, unrelated, undivided, uncomposed, unshakable. Buddhism is quite the most misunderstood religion. It isn't direct and presented. One must analyze, investigate and meditate to understand.
It's also best to add in that other ritualistic and deity worshiping addition to Buddhism were created by man for the common lay people to help them. However, they are unnecessary and irrelevant towards gaining Enlightenment, and are not part of what Buddha taught.
Makes sense.
This was utterly beautiful
I love your attempts to being open to religion and to trying to find new ways of explaining. I found a few ideas in this video new to me and quite interesting. Nevertheless, I think that 11 minutes are not enough. A lot of what you said should be explained more deeply. That said, I won't "like" nor "dislike" the video, hoping that you will upload another video on this subject that is more explanatory.
Thank you School of Life!
I think that we should replace religion with philosophy, because it has a scientific approach to the fudimental questions in life. There is no dogmas in philosophy and evetything can be doubted. Philosophy gives you the tools to determine what is right and what is wrong, and in doing that makes you wise and in peace with yourself.
Another interesting thing is that christianity, islam and judaism incorporated a lot of ideas from Plato's philosophy. Therefor I state that the reason why christianity seem so appealing and wise is the fact that it uses Plato's philosophical ideas... Literally ( those of you familiar to Plato's philosophy are probably grinning right now).
+Rok Resnik Very true. There is a great podcast "philisophize this" and I just listened to the episode "The hellenistic age pt. 5 A race to the Dark ages" and it talks about how Plato's philosophy was incorporated into Judaism by Philo of Alexandria. Interesting stuff
That solves one problem. But a big part of religion is a belief in a divine being(s). How do you modernize a concept so illogical?
+Rok Resnik philosophy is not a science, science is rather a philosophy.
Philosophy is anything that you can argue for logically.
Science is anything you can logically prove through observation.
In logic you can take a premise to be true and have valid reasoning, if the premise cannot be proven untrue, or is proven true one can argue, whatever the argument may be for, logically
+Ahmed Zaher yes, philosophy isn't a science, but i didn't argue that it is I just said that it has a scientific approach to things. Philosophy is the mother of science. And that is very clear when you look and compare their methods. Doudt is what a philosopher does, he doubts and then makes an intelectual effort to see whether the theori in question is true.
By knowing philosophy you know that in epistemology ( the area of pholosophy that is concerned with knowing) there are two dominant ways of thinking, rationalism and empirism. According to rationalism you can only acquire Knowlage through reason and logic, essentiali by a logical intelectual effort, and then there's empirism that states that the only way of acquiering Knowlage is through very carefull observation. That sort of thinking has the bassis for science.
Amongst the most famous empirists are John Locke, David Hume, Francis Bacon( the father of modern science, by modern i mean science from the times of the reinessanse).
God is a man-made concept created at a time of darkness when humanity had no answers. God is a projection of our fears (God of Thunder), projection of our needs (God as a Father figure), and projection of what we want (God is all-powerful and all-knowing). As humanity outgrows the old ideas of religion hopefully well discover more truths about the universe and even perhaps a higher power. But the old ideas of religion and God are outdated for modern times.
Talking about religion in past tense is somewhat optimistic but still gave me a pleasant glimpse of the time when it is not. God bless America.
Nothing about the Vedas and how religions have developed rigid social hierarchies throughout the world?
+The Revolution That was more a personal philosophical approach rather than an Sociological one.
+The Revolution That's a little beside the point that was trying to be made. The focus of this video was religion's role for comfort and spiritual guidance.
The0Skeleton123 Klayderpus I completely disagree. The History of Ideas series has not really shied away from sociological and other impersonal subjects thus far.
The Revolution But in this specific one it wasn't so prevalent.
The0Skeleton123 Yes, but this is a series about the "history of ideas" and the School of Life has been pretty consistent in serving to that title until now. Essentially what I'm saying is that I want some qualitative consistency when comes to this thus far wonderful series.
Psalm 103:10 “He has not dealt with us according to our sins, Nor has he repaid us what our errors deserve. 11 For as the heavens are higher than the earth,So great is his loyal love toward those who fear him. 12 As far off as the sunrise is from the sunset,So far off from us he has put our transgressions. 13 As a father shows mercy to his sons,Jehovah has shown mercy to those who fear him. 14 For he well knows how we are formed,Remembering that we are dust.” Good to recall from time-to-time. . .
Here purpose of life in Islam: th-cam.com/video/WSEEQtXNacs/w-d-xo.html
Anything not make sense to you??
Nothing matters and nobody cares!
That's why people need to help each other and other beings. Because there is nothing "there" at all. So only we are and our surroundings are important. Look around! That's all you (we are) have. Accept it and deal with it. Stop searching for something beyond ourselves. There is nothing more significant except us. And everybody of us is just a part of this planet, born here and will die here. So live your life with joy and dignity, because it's all we have (joy and dignity).
I have to confess. Life as an atheist seems a little boring. Aside from the fact that I think it's a bit arrogant for people to declare that there is no possibility of a higher power, there's just a dullness to it. There's no room for anything to be sacred or mysterious. No break from the cold reality of modern life. No need to consider a higher purpose for life. Or to have values that stick with you forever. It's just seems...cold and boring. No wonder people in this world end up worshipping something else...money, status, indulgence. Hell, even fandoms look like religions nowadays.
I'm not a religious zealot, maybe its because religion is so deeply tied to who I am as a person. From where I come from, our religion runs through our veins. And as I walk through the glimmering metropolis around me, like everyone else, I take spiritual solace in praying nightly, in going to temple once in a while, in observing the sacred rituals and ceremonies of my ancestors. In fasting. In believing my actions MEAN something.
It's boring if you have no purpose.
Exactly, that's why I am a deist, not an atheist. If you can remove dogma from spirituality, it can really be a beautiful thing.
Ali Zaidi yeah we can choose what to believe. But I feel funny when I talked about purpose and all you guys can think is God 😂 Can you guys think about anything else? Common!
@@neola1712 Do you have any other purpose that is not materialistic? Any other spiritual cause
than God?
Ali Zaidi that’s what you need to ask yourself. We’re living in a world with so many issues and all you can think about is god. It’s not even a thing I think about. Read more, study more...and open your mind man. Ask yourself what human need to have a better future, what a human need to feel happier. You don’t need any religion to answer that, that’s knowledge.
Believe in whatever gives you hope.
School of life: "capitalism is immoral, we should all be marxists"
School of life: "if you like our films take a look at our shop (we ship worldwide)"
So u r saying that marxists can't shop online and buy stuff worldwide ??
they also tell you that you are not to believe everything of what others tell you
Peter Tel so they shouldn't feed themselves
they never say that. they propose that capitalism isn't perfect and can be improved, not that it is immoral and we should all be Marxists. according to them, Marxism in today's world would actually be very impractical. do you even School of Life, bro?
Peter Tel "Ooh I know so much about economic policies and anyone who doesn't jerk me off is a commie cuz muh capitalism."
Good video. I'm not religious, and I don't have the cash, but if I did, I would have no problems sending my children to Catholic school. I don't mind them learning about Christianity while at the same time receiving, in most cases, a better education than what public schools in the U.S. dish out nowadays.
+Leon612 It's a waste of money, and if you send them there their just end up believing it. So I would just advise you to send them to public school; teach them to write, read, and make them watch some documentaries in their spare time. If you this I think their end up nicely rounded.
you should, us catholics were the first create a school system, and we have really good schools, you don't have to be religious and neither do you're children. There is a possibility that they could be converted, but again they might not.
I doubt Catholics were the first to create a school system maybe the modern type we use today, and this has noting to with them being good.Although they are good, and you're right about you not needing to be religious to be excepted, but that doesn't mean you won't be judged once you get their. I remember my aunt sent her daughter to one, and they allows talked about her behind her back because she was a single mother. Could image if she was an atheist.
dare colbert actually yes we did, in fact almost all public school systems were bsed on ours, of course ours isn't as lazy and ignorant, almost all children under the Catholic School system are above public school students. Before us only the rich ad powerful were educated and it was often with a private tutor, or even later then that it a tribal thing.
Funny that after leaving religion, having taken 12 yrs to exit, I had, myself, come to the same conclusion; that the human existence desperately needed one single thing that should never be erased from any culture, and that thing is hope. İn order for us to be able to bear the burden of existing, we all need a form of hope, or at least something to "look forward to," whether it be an after life or a session at our canvas painting.
100% agree. Im still trying to find that hope:(
Life in itself is meaningless, but we ourselves can give it meaning.
Beautiful, refreshing and thoughtful analysis of the importance of religion.
Whatever religion may say, people must keep their sanity and listen to reason.... There should not be any conflict between religion and science, as one deals with morality and culture and the other with facts on working of the universe. There are creation myths from around the world... They tried their best to answer questions which were once unexplainable... It doesn't mean that after we've found out that answer, we still stick to the old one which is not as true as the real answer provided by science. Now religions which force dogma onto its followers and make them blind to reason make humankind regress... Religions which keep claiming that their way is the only way to salvation create unwanted violence and conflicts.... Science does not say that God is unreal or anything, it does not say anything at all about God as Science is evolving... Science by its nature is always willing to correct itself and improve, which is something we can learn from Science....
I would like all of you to reason everything you know.... Ask yourself these questions and try to answer them yourself without using any religious text:
1. Who am I? Who am I really? What is the nature of my existence?
2. What am I doing here?
3. What is God? NOT "who is god"
4. What is Good?
5. What is Bad?
6. What should I do?
7. Why are there Religions?
8. What are differences among all those religions? - Here learn about all the different religions on the planet and look at the reasons why people follow them... Analyse what makes it different..... Do not give in to any kind of dogma.
After you've answered these questions in chronological order without any reference to any religion, I ask you to form your own belief with those answers... Then if any religion conforms with the answers you've got, go ahead and follow it.... If not... make that your religion and keep it to YOURSELF ONLY... What may work for you may not work for someone else... and always be ready to listen to reason and do not let your religion override it!
This explains why there's more churches in poor neighborhoods. For charity.
+Luis Torres Poor neighborhoods have poor education levels.
+BinaryHistory yeah that's why school are more segregated than ever
I feel its more likely that there are more churches because there's more religion and theres more religion because people are less educated and because people are less educated they are poorer.
In my country, Romania, there are 20,000 churches. It's crazy
+Dean Harris that's America
Why on earth would you be afraid of death?
You've been dead for longer than you've been alive.
4:17
Treat the poorest with kindness and give them kind sweet stinky bud
I doubt religion originally had the intention of helping people cope with death. Many religions had no notion of a (rewarding) afterlife. The ancient Greeks, for instance, didn't believe in a reward after death. The Greeks believed in an underworld where every person went to. The stories about the underworld are generally unpleasant, oftenly filled with people lamenting their previous decisions and at worst about people going through cruel punishments. Only the most exceptional went to a better place (Elysium).
Even the Judeo-Christian religions didn't start out with the notion of a rewarding afterlife. The oldest manuscripts contain no notion of heaven or hell, those were added in with the New Testament. Judaism till this day has no official notion of an afterlife. The Torah does have some vague description of a hell (Sheol, it's like a region of darkness/nothingness), but other verses state that *everyone* goes there after death.
I think that the notion of an afterlife was invented as a method to keep people from engaging in immoral behavior. The idea is that you have an authority figure that is always watching you and capable of punishing you after you die (because he sure isn't going to do it immediately).
I agree with almost everything you said, even as a believing Christian.
Wow! What an incredibly mature and thought provoking view of the benefits of religion in lieu of new scientific discoveries both then and now. This is quite inspiring!
Now to completely undo my good vibes by scrolling into the comments section!
do we really need to be lied to in order to get through life.
Thank you so much for this one . School of Life ... as usual AdeB sounds balanced and is balanced ... As a Believer I'd say this ... "Ok . you can't or won't . obey the first command (Which is to love God) ... That's no problem for me personally . it is a big ask . so instead of arguing about it . why don't we Both just get on with the Second command . which is "Love our neighbour"? ... If I was a Church leader that's what I'd be saying ... and I'd be offering Help not hindrance to the secularists who have no time for God but Do have time for Humanity . I think Jesus was that inclusive . I think Pope Francis is that inclusive . and I would be that inclusive too ... G'or bless ye's :-)
+The School of Life This is not even a little bit balanced. Its a blatant ass licking of the benefits of Christianity with the only seriously discussed negatives being ISIS. How very contemporary of you?! If you discuss how the "ideas" of Islam have been corrupted, you must also discuss how the ideas of Jesus and have been even more corrupted. A mention od Westboro Baptist Church, or Christian conservatism, does not come close. Historically, Christian faiths have quite easily been some of the worst terrorist organisations e.g. arrogant colonialism such as the crusades, and then all the rest which I cannot even be bothered to get into anymore. Oh, plus so so many kiddy fiddling priests.
The religious = wilfully ignorant.
+KeMoniito1 LMFAO LOLOLZ I'm curious, did the clinic offer her a refund when the abortion didn't take, or did they just offer to sterilise her dog?
+Tommy Applecore Religion is a tool to keep the rich and powerful rich and powerful. Examples of this include the divine right of kings from the Pharaohs of Egypt to the petty kings of medieval times. All used some claim of the divine to ensure that they would be kept in positions of wealth and power.
+Chris Tubestinks
I agree with you in that what you say from a historical standpoint, but to look at how rulers throughout history apply religion to validate their sometimes tyrannical rule over others, and use this argument to say that religion in itself is something extrinsically (or even intrinsically) bad...
That's a weak argument against religion.
It is true that many monarchs and other leaders have used the claim of divinity or "divine right" to validate their rulership or tyranny, but the same could be said of many political ideologies. Leaders have used nationalism to justify their regimes (e.g., Bismarck, Hitler, Mussolini); or the "common good" to justify authoritarian regimes (Napoleon, Lenin); and even democracy has been misused to justify a leader's actions or their power, like in 5th century Athens or the U.S. today.
+Richie Williamson +KeMoniito12
Wow guys, way to love your neighbor. Part of why I watch this channel is to get away of the chaotic comment sections on other vids.
+KeMoniito12
Christian apologetics does not mean insulting someone you think to be ignorant, even if they may be ignorant
Thank you for this video. This is the most unbiased video on religion that I have ever seen. Amazing.
This is one of the best pieces of knowledge that modern generations should consult, meditate, process and reflect on their day to day lifes.
It would help to improove the current situation around the world.
Allah - there is no deity except Him, the Ever-Living, the Sustainer of [all] existence. Neither drowsiness overtakes Him nor sleep. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. Who is it that can intercede with Him except by His permission? He knows what is [presently] before them and what will be after them, and they encompass not a thing of His knowledge except for what He wills. His Knowledge [throne] extends over the heavens and the earth, and their preservation tires Him not. And He is the Most High, the Most Quran 2. 255 please study Islam ....
5:43
"the church was trying to hold on to something rather lovely"
They weren't trying to hold on to something lovely. They were trying to hold on to illusions that no longer served a purpose or had a place in reality. But it was time for them to grow up, which is why God sent Copernicus and Galileo to set them right.
Another excellent video. Thank you. Despite being a very religious person, it is easy for me to recognize the hypocrisy within religion. That religion has been a source of a great deal, if not most, suffering in the world throughout mankind’s history. As we look back into thousands of years of scientific history, we’ve seen the ideas of scientists and philosophers change from one year to another. Scientific “facts” become, in hind-site, laughable and are updated. As this latest young “fact” will be too in my humble opinion.
Problem of religion: fundermentalism, radicalism etc. There is a method to overcome these bad effects. At the beginning religion was taught only by parents. Later on preasts took the responsibility. Now parents have outsourced it to schools, churches, temples and so on. Those are the places of radicalisation. Solution, ban all religious teachings, to minors in institutions. It is the responsibility of parents. There are still parents who do it, and they always produce balance minded, good natured children.
Its an amazing perspective that, how human's curiosity of his surroundings made him find religion to satisfy that curiosity of his surroundings.
I’m Buddhist and every religion goal love and
Compassions and the deferent is way of teaching love kindness compassion
Allah - there is no deity except Him, the Ever-Living, the Sustainer of [all] existence. Neither drowsiness overtakes Him nor sleep. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. Who is it that can intercede with Him except by His permission? He knows what is [presently] before them and what will be after them, and they encompass not a thing of His knowledge except for what He wills. His Knowledge [throne] extends over the heavens and the earth, and their preservation tires Him not. And He is the Most High, the Most Quran 2. 255 please study Islam ....
The charitable aspect of religion is my favourite❤.
consciousness is not a coincidence, and for it I thank God. ☝🙏
+cris z You said it. We need to be more conscious.
You know as a devout Christian (but like most a reasonable one) I have to say, on balance, I didn't have too many problems with this video, I thought it was quite good. Although, I do have some minor disagreements. I think disagree with the view painted out that religion is on the verge of extinction. Compared with other parts of history it is not AS prevalent, but that isn't saying too much. Most of the world still values religion extremely, and over 85% subscribe to one religion or another. The solution to scientific discoveries contrary to previously thought isn't to get rid of it, that would be ridiculous. The solution is for the two to coincide. As many have already done, scientific advancements are just applied to religion. For example, many Christians don't have any problems with science, they fully accept it, like me. We just adjust our beliefs accordingly, and see the discovery as proving more of God's glory and beautiful design. So nothing could really replace religion in giving everyone a sense of meaning and togetherness, it would be wrong to abandon it. Of course though this is just my opinion, I might recommend making a video about how religion and science could work together and coexist? Thanks for your time, hopefully you see this
Brady Knox Yes agreed but what if scientific discoveries contradict to religious teachings. What then?
This TH-cam channel is the best thing ever i swear its just.... beautiful 😭😭😭😭😭
They are worshipping a weed plant at 4:20 lmfao
I noticed that. Some people still do. It seems like such a small god to me. No offense intended. I'm very religious at this point in my life. I have chosen my god carefully as it reflects who I am and where my life is headed. Whether it's real or a delusion does not matter to me. How I live my life and the kind of person I strive to be matters to me. That is very real. Freedom of religion, or not to believe, is very important for individual happiness and justice and stability of society.
Edward Lulofs Not a religious guy myself but i respect the hell out of this worldview sir 👌🏾
MY FATHER IS LITERALLY A GREAT BISHOP IN MY COUNTRY & I FUCKING RESPECT THAT
I HAVE SEEN SOME REAL DEEP SPIRITUAL SHIT. TRUST ME
THEY DON'T WANT TO ACCEPT BUT THIS SHIT IS CULTISH & OF WHICH I AM NOT AGAINST THAT TOO
BUT COME ON WHAT THE FUCK IS HELL WHEN I FEEL IT ON THE SO-CALLED HOLY GROUNDS
STRAIGHT OUTTA ZIMBABWE
great observation lol
It is a coincidence. Totally unintentional. Trust me.
You're videos are so healing. ❤
As an atheist, I have fully accepted science and evolution and have fully rejected religion and creation. Whilst I respect everyone’s right to believe those lies, I’d rather live with the truth.
I'm exactly the same. To me it's obvious that religion sprouted due to ignorance and the common people wanting an explanation for the world without the resources or knowledge to do so (also coping and giving people a "meaning for life"). Then as societies grew it started to be utilized as a method for law and control
@@gron4058 Thankfully, modern science came along and with smart people like Gallileo Gallilee, Stephen Hawkings, etc., I think religion is become less and less relevant.
@@superfrank2257 Yes
@@gron4058 I can see why people go to church just to comfort themselves. I can respect that for now, because really, there are legit other things to get comfort from. Like movies, music, tv, video games, books, theater plays, going to game shows, concerts, literally everything else, even places like Disneyland.
@@superfrank2257 I feel the majority of it is people just wanting to feel like part of a community or part of something, although as you said there would be many other ways to do so. It also gives them a reason to be “good” people
This series was really shaping up to be amazing but this "slight" against Dawkins and the misrepresentation (or under-representation or misunderstanding) of his message and his work... Is really really disappointing.
Wow thanks for that reply. I was just now on another video. Maybe you would like Sam Harris, a friend of Dawkings, and his new book Waking Up: A Guide to Spirituality without Religion. I think he makes the important distinction between superstitious/dogmatic religion and more mystical experiential mind training, if I could put it that way, which answers the need for religion and is also compatible with secular atheism (lot of stuff from eastern philosophy, Buddhism, etc) You're right that Richard doesn't talk about alternatives and he doesn't address the worlds religions with much respect (I guess I'm not one to mind but I understand) Again thank you, I was so surprised.
+The School of Life Oh, please. I love your channel, and can even appreciate a dig about Dawkins. I just think it's disingenuous to, on one hand, be so patronizing about religious belief - certain it will die off as an illusion from humanity's childhood; and then go on to imply Dawkins isn't doing anything constructive to fill the void. That's not his job. He is still busy fighting theism. Naturally, Dawkins is unkind in his critiques, because he is motivated by a passion to defend nothing less than evolutionary biology - from disgraceful christian conservative forces whose unfathomable influence has allowed creationism and intelligent design to be taught, together with evolution, in state schools. Dawkins' isn't supposed to be nice. He has way to much to do. And, while the rest of us come up with meaningful ways to live without religion, we ought to thank god for him. ; )
+ellie rain I wouldn't call the video patronising, rather constructive. In fact I'd say childhood to adulthood is a good comparison; clarity perceiving the world increases, along with one's responsibility to navigate life in it alone, without certain hope.
+The School of Life People like him made me and many other young unknowing atheists think it is okay to be an atheist. The option pre-Dawkins was to keep your unbelief to yourself.He made atheists feel like they are not alone and should not remain in the closet. Other people like Daniel Dennet worry about the question of community post-religion, an equally important question. But Dawkins should not be beaten down for not focusing on that question, his contribution is indeed significant in making atheism seem normal in society and in demanding political respect for non-religious people.
Caseius Tea no, i agree with you - and that's a lovely way to put it, and what comes next, how we face life; though i do think it's simplistic to think of religion as something you just grow out of. religion and the concept of God is also deeply genetic (denial of mortality, if you will). and concepts of God are far more vast than most secular people realize. for instance, the whole reason Yawhen/Jehovah gets that name is its incomprehensible (you can't pronounce it in Hebrew), unknowable, ineffable, etc.
as you can tell, i LOVE Dawkins. wrote a paper on him. idolize him. but he doesn't get it, either. we CAN'T understand or know everything, no matter how far science advances. there are paradoxes of existence that are simply impossible for the human brain to make logical sense out of. (for instance, Xeno's paradox related to time, what's called the mathematical "proof" of god. the fact that if time goes back endlessly as we imagine -because what comes before the beginning if there's a beginning, the other alternative - if time keeps going, we could never get here. that kind of thing. doesn't compute. so that's the stuff we call God. or that feeling of faith and significance of patterns in one's life - that is built-in. we DO find ways of coping with what we don't know, as you say. and largely, they are STILL arguably religious in a sense. believing things will work out. believing life has meaning though it has no objective meaning, believing in our own importance, etc.
i'm with these guys. just adding a critique.
The video implies that Mary is central to Christianity as a blanket statement. I think it's important to qualify that this is true only for Catholicism and maybe Orthodox. Protestant groups generally hold Mary as being dramatically less significant.
Also, the bible doesn't actually say anywhere that the earth in 6000 years old. That was an idea started by someone who guessed his way through genealogies and misreading the old testament. Even in the first century AD, no one actually thought the old testament was literally true, they knew that the old testament stuff was designed as symbolic and thematic versions of history. The biblical literalism actually developed far later.
Maria is niet heilig!
But Catholics do not belive that Mary is the central of cristianity.
Fabulous perspective!!!
This is my favorite School of Life video.
Such lovely essays on this channel! Thank you, School of Life!
What a beautiful channel this is. Pure goodness and adding to the universe. Thank you to the team behind these wonderful works.
Beautifully said....we need religion...when we have to desperately hold on to the last strands called hope. We need religion to comfort us as Karma...we need religion and our Gods and idols to direct our hearts in times of hopelessness and despair because there is no alternative. We need to believe that there is a Goodness out there and it will Destroy the evil and restore what has been lost. Science and rationality for all its theories and explanations can never achieve this objective of Hope, Courage and Comfort
no we dont.
Religion can be used to explain the mysterious, but now that most such mysteries have been solved by science and reason, and such true explanations have been available for years in books and websites (in the developed world) for all to learn, clinging to farcical religious notions as history is looking increasingly ignorant. I agree: religion was invented and sometimes works well to calm fears of the unknown. Thus gods spring from ignorance. But any salutary effect is completely nullified and even far outweighed by the tendencies of religions themselves to _inspire_ fear through devils, demons, witches, and such bugaboos. And to produce wars, human sacrifices, torture, slavery, rape, injustice and the tolerance of injustice, and a chilling effect on freedom of speech and inquiry when it inevitably conflicts with traditional orthodoxies built on sand.
Teach kids that they are the end of an eons-long line of successful survivors, and that humans are the most interesting and accomplished species to have ever evolved on Earth. Don't teach them that their life has meaning only in relation to some god.
You don't have a clue as to what exactly you're talking about. I can tell you've never read the bible. I can also tell you don't have a clear understanding of science or understand human nature. You lack critical thinking skills and are too lazy to learn that which you've been told is a waste of time.
You have some serious reading to do, start here "101 facts and foreknowledge".
btw, you give humans way too much credit, "successful survivors"? In the beginning all we had to do was pick food up and eat it. lol
See Truth Lemme see if I got this right: some all-powerful and all-knowing being poofed this gazillion-star universe into existence. Then, 2,000 years ago, when the universe was 13.7 billion years old; the Earth 4.5 billion years old, and humanity was 50,000 years old, this "god" came slumming to Earth and, without asking, raped and knocked-up an ignorant, betrothed Jewish teen in a backwater society where questionable paternity might get you shunned or stoned. She then gave birth to the very "god" who bunned her oven, in the form of a squalling, breast-feeding, diaper-pooping "baby" (he was actually older than the universe), who grew up and, although he was all-powerful and eternal, got killed. But then he revivified like a zombie and floated away. But he left us words revealing that all the good people who lived before ever hearing of him, and all the good people who did hear but wanted more evidence, and all the good people who believed in a different "god"...they're all dead and being tortured with fire right now or soon will be.
Uhhh...I've read the bible twice and dozens of books of commentary. Also dozens of books of science. I know things about the bible and science and philosophy that you are not only ignorant of, but _you are not allowed to know_.
See Truth well i can tell that you have neither read the gita or Greek and Nordic mythologies, your arguement is shite.
Deacon Verter Christianity isn't the only religion so God did not "poof" out of nowhere 2000 years ago
You can believe whatever you want. Don't affect the life of others and don't impose your religion. Let religion and government be separated.
Always search for the truth, facts and confirm your believes and ideas.
Truly, Religion was an attempt by humans to answer things happening around them on which they didn't have control. Like Rains, Earthquakes, death etc. Here I like to appreciate What Buddha presented to world - a simple explanation " Desire is the root cause of all sorrows". Indeed what we see now & then, our expectations are only who gives us disappointments. But in a world of competition, desires what keep ourselves live!!!!
The bible doesn't say the world is only 6000 years old. If it does which verse is that revealed in again?
Old testament
yes it doesnt
If you add up the birth years of the genealogies in the Bible you get to an earth under 10,000 years old because people have accounted for many things, but it's usually somewhere around 6000 years ago.
You can either follow the Bible and reject science or follow science and reject the Bible
it's human interpretation... it doesn't say anywhere it's 6000
Zakria Samuel You would have to think the genealogies were wrong, and then the Bible wouldn't be infallible.
The greatest trick ever, give them a faith.
We still have to die. That's pretty depressing to think about.
If death depresses you, you're already dead
Yeah i dont care.
That's what SOL is trying to teach, how to live & die better!💞🌠🌠🌠
The fact that all living things on this plant was made to be conscious kinda sucks because a lot of us do have to die so we can survive.
"That makes us the lucky ones. Most people are never going to die because they have never been born"
-Dawkins
Weed leaf at 4:20 anyone?
ha nice
The problem is how religion is pushed in to our faces everywhere. cant even take a breath without hearing about it. Its mandotory in alot of communities. it annoys me to another level.
I think you should have mentioned C. S. Lewis in this presentation
that voice makes me wanna sleep
"Professor? Is this all real? Or is it just happening inside my head?"
"Of course it’s happening inside your head, Harry. Why should that mean that it’s not real?"
4:15 Hmmm... Interesting looking leaf. :P
Wéeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed
XD quite interesting yes..
High
Wonderful as always TSoL.
I'd love for you guys to address mass migration through the ages and how those situations worked out. Is there anything we can learn from history?
Great video! There was only an inaccuracy I thought I should point out. This video pushes some misconceptions many people have about the Bible. The Bible does not teach or say in any of its 66 books that the earth is 6,000 years old. The Roman Catholic Church and subsequent sects pushed this idea but here we draw the difference between what the Bible says and what Religion teaches. I’ve had the honor of studying the Bible for many years. Truly it has proven to be very advanced for it’s time. No hate comments. Love your channel! Very well done.
Kuan Yin is not a deity. She is a bodhisattva ... a representation of the compassionate part of ourselves. She does not exist as a deity somewhere.