Ejection 005 - Crew Chief Jerry Layne Ejects Joe Maddon After a Series of Replay Challenge Losses
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 ต.ค. 2024
- HP Umpire Jerry Layne ejected LA of Anaheim Manager Joe Maddon following his second lost Manager's Challenge of the LA-Toronto game in Florida. Report: www.closecalls...
Half an inning earlier, Maddon had unsuccessfully challenged a slide rule interference no-call at second base, which ultimately led not just to the no interference call being confirmed, but actually resulted in an overturned call and baserunner Jonathan Davis being awarded second base when Blue Jays Manager Charlie Montoyo counter-challenged that Angels shortstop Jose Iglesias had come off the bag before fielding the throw.
Seven Toronto runs later, Replay Review again affirmed an umpire's call after a Maddon challenge, this time confirming 1B Umpire Hunter Wendelstedt's ruling that Juan Lagares was out at first base.
Maddon was ejected from the game following this second lost challenge. - กีฬา
"Pretty hard to say he was going to reach the base on that" - Half his body is cleanly covering the bag from the 1st base angle.
Yeah I laughed at that too. At first I thought the slide was illegal, but after re-reading the slide rule, and watching the slide a few times, it's pretty easy to say the slide was legal lol. People saying it wasn't should know that the MLB's rules on sliding are a little different than High School/ College rules.
Edit: did not get to the part in the video where the rules are literally plastered on the screen lmao. Yet people in the comments still don't understand the rule rotfl. It's weird though, because the rule I read further clarifies subsection 4 so that it's a little less vague. It said that as long as the runner doesn't raise their leg above the knee of the fielder, or their hands in an attempt to block the throw, then it's all good.
NCAA & NHFS that is definitely an OUT (or 2)
@@darinlegore284 Doesn't matter, we're in the majors.
I really don’t like that slide. That’s how guys break or tear something
@@jackjon7763 Honestly on this slide the worst I see homie having is a bruise and tenderness for a few days
Joe Maddon is the biggest crybaby since Tony LaRusa.
Pet peeve: Announcers, coaches, etc. who don't know the difference between interference and obstruction. He's not asking for obstruction; he's asking for interference.
Really wish professional paid MLB announcers would call Obstruction "Obstruction" and Interference "Interference" but not routinely incorrectly can Obstruction Interference!
Those two announcers are utterly ignorant of MLB rules. No professionalism at all.....
As far as the slide is concerned, it is legal... But it really shouldn't be. It was clearly a leg sweep designed to interfere with the 2nd baseman. But MLB has also painted themselves into a corner because of the replay system. If a replay finds someone come off the bag for a frame with the ball on them they are out which also encourges some very unsafe sliding practices by sliding head first but this was done leg first and sweeping to the side instead of aiming for the base as you should do unless the aim WAS to interfere with the throw to 1st.
Not sure if anyone cares, but the runner was safe at second. The fielder made contact with the bag prior to receiving the ball and took his foot off the bag before the ball entered his glove.
Edit: I wrote this seconds before this was addressed in the video. My bad, bro.
@@davej3781 I agree. I assumed it was an out when it happened live. It was after watching the replay I determined the runner to be safe.
Watching it live seemed like he was a bit too quick. But I don’t think anyone would have had a issue with it, until the angels challenged the slide m. Which game Toronto more time to review and look at the none force out
This comment cuts to the heart of this rule. It used to be the umpires would give the middle infielder credit for being in the neighborhood of the bag. That was to protect the infielder from Chase Utley type slides. When they started nitpicking the play at second base - due to the umpires looking bad on replay - it was only a matter of time before Chase Utley would seriously injure somebody. How or why MLB didn't see it coming I'll never know but to not give neighborhood and not call obstruction is very dangerous to the middle infielders
These flippin ANNOUNCERS really do a dis service to umpires!!!!
Umps got this right 100% took forever but they got it right. Joe was just in a mood.
No it was a bad call cause the runner slid to the fielder and interfered the play with his slide and that’s why the ball was thrown way off
@@michaelredd9320 Sorry, Michael, you are wrong. He slid into the bag. Watch where the short stop is when the slide occurs.
@@Anthony-hu3rj ok I get it people were talking about how the braves got cheated against the Phillies it was a strange call
I don’t like the slide but it’s technically legal
Joe Madden - the most overrated manager in baseball.
Love watching Joe Maddon get ejected lol
I'm trying to imagine Earl Weaver wearing a mask. It would end up being shredded. 🤬
Totally Home team announcers. He could touch the base during his slide. Your choice, are the announcers stupid, or are they liars!!
Somebody get that ump off the field if he's gonna fucking chin diaper it
Games would be so much more enjoyable without announcers
I'm surprised this wasn't called in the game. Like pretty obvious to me.
And after watching the video, I'm an umpire of youth games, so using a different standard.
Hey announcers, you're not on the radio. We can see what happened ourselves. A perfectly legal slide.
Not a legal slide!!! Pretty clear he wasn’t going to the base
Not a legal slide at all
@@jeffreyramsdell4781 read the MLB rule....again
By the letter of the law it was..
He didn't vary his route/path
Then he slid, and could reach the bag.
So by MLB rule, legal slide
And he breaks it down in this video, as it relates to the rule
@@russellbrooker2122 read the MLB rule....again
By the letter of the law it was..
He didn't vary his route/path
Then he slid, and could reach the bag.
So by MLB rule, legal slide
And he breaks it down in this video, as it relates to the rule
I've been going back and watching all of the previous videos & it's insane how much that Mario coin sound effect actually affects my thought process...
He did reach the base. He was able to stop at the base. No interference
yep, tripping the fielders legs provides great stopping power to any uncontrolled slide
Maybe the fielder should have stayed on 2nd base and at least got one out. But that’s why he plays for the Angels.
Which manager will break Bobby Cox's record for being tossed from ballgames?
Funny no one is not saying the runner at second is safe. Short stop touched the bag but had his foot off when ball was relieved. Lol bad call there too
the mlb replay is a fucking joke. just like nfl and pass interference how they found a way to mess up all those calls
Be nice when we finally get the explanation of what is going on at the time, we were there last night and was a little confusing, we figured it out by watching replay on the board but yeah MLB let us the ones you are entertaining knows what is going on...loved the long walk out though
Pro baseball is a JOKE!
Yep, and is everything close going to be challenged??? It's not even fun to watch anymore...
Close call at first, let's challenge.. Ridiculous!!!
the slide rule was to prevent injuries. that was clearly an intent to make contact with the fielder. the only reason he ended up all the way on the bag was BECAUSE he made contact with the fielder. im not even gonna argue if its interference by rule or not, but if it isnt interference, it should be.
Yeah. It's borderline on the "Chase Utley Rule". Hard to determine intent, but he appeared to be trying to make contact with the fielder. The Astros had one go the other way a few years ago against the Brewers. It comes down to umpire judgement of a "bona fide slide"
And instant reply is even a bigger cluster fuch
Yeah that's why I would have landed on the runner.
Incidentally, the 2nd review from 3:24 should not have been allowed. All challenges, requests for review, etc., must be made before the umpires get on the headsets, and all requested reviews are done together. No further challenges are allowed after the umpires has gotten on and off the headsets. The only exception is when a team did not have an incentive to challenge a call, but now do because of an *overturned* call. Here there was no overturned call, so the exception didn't apply.
I Don’t Blame Joe Maddon The Way That He Got He’s Moneys Worth
That was pretty close to being an illegal slide, but it wasn't. He was able to reach the bag, and although he's obviously trying to break up the throw with the slide, he doesn't kick his legs up in the air over the fielder's knee, and he doesn't throw his hands up in the air in an attempt to block the throw.
I thought it was illegal at first because of how he kind of lunges at second to grab it, but it was definitely a legal slide. I know at some levels of baseball you have to be sliding directly into second on double plays, but in the MLB you just have to be able to get to the bag, without sliding past it or anything. Otherwise it's fair game as long as you don't cleat/ grab the fielder like some sorta bush leaguer.
These announcers…..😑
no cha-ching @ 8:02 ?
Watching the umpires and managers try wearing masks is just... seriously guys either wear them or don’t.
Okay, got another case where the call is correct but the rule sucks. If you can purposefully kick out your legs to affect ANY play in the field (let alone to break up a double play) you should be out. Sounds like from Gil's description that high school and college have it right.
Correct. Both HS and NCAA require the runner to slide directly to the base.
I thought the neighborhood call was non-reviewable? Is this a new rule?
Pujols hung his shortstop out to dry with that little flip to second.
For those of you saying legal slide, how does this not violate section (4) of the rule? He's obviously altering his slide to make contact with the fielder intentionally. The argument that "he already started outside" made in the video isn't a good one, IMO. He's going outside to intentionally collide with the fielder. Why else would you run on that path on a force play ground ball?
We're just following the rules that MLB has put forth! You may not agree with the rules, but they were enforced with precision and accuracy!
@@CloseCallSports Ok. I don't disagree with the rules, I disagree with the judgment applied to section 4. IMO, he's clearly trying to break up the DP and alter his slide to do so and not go for the bag.
@@mae2759 he was still able to get to the bag with the path he chose. That’s legal.
@@MikeJones-bl6lu That's not what the rule says though. The rule says WITHOUT changing his path for the purpose of initiating contact with the fielder. Seemed pretty clear he was trying to take out the fielder.
@@mae2759 the umpires ruled that his unaltered path took him to both the fielder and the base.
i knew when annoucers talking about second with 2nd base they were wrong
Yo are those cardboard cutouts? What is up with that?
Wow, announcers wearing Angel-Goggles on this one.
The blown call here is at 2nd, not the obstruction call.
There was no obstruction anywhere in this video.
"severely hurt" ok buddy
Good no call. Bias announcers
Even though the slide is technically bona fide it shouldn’t be legal
He was safe at second anyway. By a mile
Yeah not even close
To be honest, he was safe at 2nd base. The fielders foot was off the bag when the ball was caught in the glove...
Ok, it's a legal slide, but it's pretty obvious that he still had the intent of causing interference.
Well if this is a legal slide the bone head commissioner needs to review this because I clearly remember hearing and reading that these types of slides were suppose to be illegal. I remember reading and hearing that base runners were supposed to dive or slide directly into the base and not go 3rd base or outfield side. This slide could of caused serious injuries and it's clear that he had no intent to try to even make contact with the base.
At the MLB level this is legal. At almost any other level this would be an illegal slide. In the end though, the only reason this happened was due to a poor throw by Beltre to start the whole thing. A good throw and the slide is well away from the play.
"And it's clear that he had no intent to try to even make contact with the base" He says as the video literally shows the guy going for the base the entire time during the slide, half his body literally covering it from the first base angle.
Get glasses, get LASIK, get something
@@davej3781 No it's 100% legal.
He ricocheted off the fielder....Had he not, he wouldn't have made contact with the bag. This slide had no intention of be legal. He slid late and then ricochets. This rule really needs to be looked at and made 100% clear.
Wait, I thought the runner was limited to three feet either side of the base; that looked like more than three feet-or was that rule changed recently?
That's what I'm wondering. Yes, the slide is legal but is he allowed to run out of his base path like that?
On second watch, he actually didn't deviate from his base path. It was just an odd path towards the bag.
He did move in the direction of the fielder, but there is no base path the runner needs to be in unless a tag is attempted.
There's is no such thing as a basepath, the only time the 3 foot has anything to do with anything is on a tab attempt.
Your commentary is highly annoying. We don't need it.
Not a legal slide, should be a double out for slide interference.
Did you even watch the video?
@@TeemoQuinton did you? Did you ever attend a clinic? Where is this ever taught? Just another example of MLB umpires doing what they want.
Going to change this call for a long time goes against what's taught.
Can you argue for a "roll block" here? He starts feet first and sort of tumbles in a way his upper body / arms are reaching for the bag. Should that be the case the slide is deemed to be "not a bona fide" slide anyway.
@@davej3781 I can definitely see that. Thanks for the insightful response!