PF Flyers vs Converse - (CUT IN HALF)
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"Shoes Guaranteed to make a kid run faster and jump higher." PF Flyers the secret weapon of the classic "The Sandlot". I bought a pair of these to cut them in half and compare them to the classic converse and the chuck 70s we reviewed previously.
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The "memory foam" was at one time a solid chunk of foam rubber meant for arch support. Players at the college level (i.e. Henry Bibby Playing for John Wooden) made special requests to avoid Converse and wear PF Fliers for that arch support.
This is correct. PF’s “Rigid Wedge” gave them superior arch support and their name. “Posture Foundation”.
They are vastly superior in looks and comfort to Converse shoes.
I wish I could find white PF Flyers, but all I could find the last time I looked were other colors. Has that changed?
One side note is that these shoes have become rather pricey. The new PFs are $78.99 now.
Try ebay, i just ordered a white pair.
@@Suddenlyits1960 hell the suede ones are $100. They’re super comfortable and look good though.
But P.F Flyers have somthing the other two dont, a Guarantee:
"Shoes guaranteed to make a kid run faster and jump higher-P.F. Flyers" - The Sandlot
From personal experience.
All black Chucks lasted me about 9 months of daily wear.
And all black PF Flyers lasted me about two years of almost daily wear.
I wore both to PE in school everyday.
With Converse they tend to fall apart about from the sides and soles they also fade from black to a blue greenish color.
While PF Flyers fade to brown and the canvas tears from the sides.
Can't stop watching this channel. Thank you for your commitment to the craft.
Of cutting stuff in half?? Ha okay 👍
agreed! im addicted
You have great boot polish!
The black PF flyers for sure. I wish more shoes had the wider toebox.
They look like trash
For me the toebox is where most of my uncomfortableness comes from so I would love all shoes to have that
@@fizzyizzy6206 Chuck boy
For Refrence PF Flyers are owned and produced by New Balance now who is also known for making wider toe boxes in their sneakers.
I use chucks as gym shoes but damned if they are tiiiight.
The extra foam is for arch support,invented by B.F Goodrich which was the predecessor of both converse and p.f flyers,and used on their dress shoes. Later they used the same tech when they started releasing sneakers and even in military outfits. Pretty cool history imo
PF flyers are consistently well made. I've tried on converse where one shoe of the same pair looks different to the other. Never had that with PF flyers.
3:31 when after 34 years you find out what the PF in PF Flyers actually means
@@joeybaseball7352 Old school sneakers. I wore them in 1968
Joey Baseball you made me feel old with this comment
Outside of The Sandlot recently David Tennet wore them when he played Dr Who.
Posture Foundation...First brand in the USA to have a proffesional sports endorsement. Originally owned by BF Goodrich...yes the Tire. Its revolutionary "rubber' sole Invented the "tennis" Shoe...but used for basket ball...
@@exexpat11 Really?
It would be cool if you also reviewed the PF Flyer Made in US version to compare to the Chuck 70s!
I was wondering this also. I like the looks of the white on white low tops.
I like that the made in US version has the leather toe cap
@@brandontolliver1672 I love it as well. They bring a real unique look to the sneakers, and I get compliments when wearing them.
Yeah, he should have done that.
The made in USA version has a rubber toe cap,the body of the shoe that is normally canvas is all leather.
They are very high quality shoes,but I personally prefer the canvas style as they are true to the look of the shoes in the 50’s and 60’s. They didn’t make them in leather back then.
PF Flyers are my favs. They're roomie enough for a proper insole and last longer than cons. They're Made buy New Balance and their shoes are pretty consistently good quality for the price.
I made the brand switch to the Flyers in 2010 and I've easily gotten 2.5-3yrs wear out of every pair.
Same, shoesforcrews even makes a non slip sole version of the flyers with added gussets for extra water resistance.
I got a pair for my Benny the jet halloween costume one year and when I put them on I was amazed how comfy they were so I still wear them. Plus the placebo of making you run faster and jump higher is worth something in my mind lol. My only criticism is that they can be too hot to wear in the summer sometimes, especially the all black ones, but if you are playing a game of baseball or hockey in the street with friends there is nothing better. Great memories in my shoes :)
3 years is not much for that type of shoe though 🤔 I thought they last longer
Margarita M. what in the world? Sneakers don’t last me 6 months so 3 years sounds pretty good to me
Isn't nike the owner of new balance?
I found the PF Flyers to be much more comfortable than my original Chuck's, but I have narrow feet so they didn't fit as well. Due to the fit the heal counters cracked and wore out before the shoes were really done. I think I will give the Chuck 70s a try next!
I definitely prefer the old format where you cut the shoe in half first, and then go through the layers. That reveal shot where you pull the two halves apart is honestly why I subscribed in the first place.
I got that pair of PF flyers over Christmas. One thing I like about them is the extra room in the toe box. With my last pair of regular converse, the shoe started to bend upward in the toe. To the point where I couldn't wear them anymore. The shoe practically made a half circle; it was crazy. I really like my PF flyers and I hope/don't think they'll bend up like my converse did.
Perhaps you had the wrong size Converse?
I know the curling you're talking about though. I have 2 pairs of PFs, my old pair haven't curled up like any of my old Chucks. But if you're concerned get shoe trees, that will help retain the shape of your shoes.
I've worn chucks for 30 years, never had that happen.
i've had my converse for about a year, maybe a year and a half, and they have that same curling issue. i was wondering if anyone else had that issue (also sorry for replying to such an old comment haha)
Please do the Onitsuka Tiger Mexico 66, the iconic Kill Bill shoe!!
Would also love to see (for milestones or whatever) more fashion boots, such as Maison Margiela tabi boots or Vivienne Westwood seditionaries boots, boots that are the same price or higher than work boots but are purely for fashion purposes.
We definitely need the Mexico 66!
Well if you want THE kill bill shoe, they used Tai Chi's not Mexico 66's
I`d like mexico 66 too, Its what I wear like 90% of the time in the past couple of years
YES! i asked him to do the 66's 3 months ago and there seemed to be no interest dangnabbit
YEAH! 100% And the Super Deluxe Version as well. They cost 50€ more, are they really that much better?
I liked when you cut the entire shoe open so that the comparison is uninterrupted, and so that there was a more satisfying immediate cross section
I am 62 years young , have worn all three. By far the better shoe overall is the PF Flyers. They feel more substantial and wear better. The Pf also has better support for the feet.
My all-stars have fallen apart enough that I know what's in there 😅
I grew up with P.F. Flyers. I was certain that they did make me run faster and jump higher! Love your channel.
I really enjoy your videos. I am disappointed in the quality of materials these companies use and the lack of support many of them offer. And on top of that their pricing for basically crap shoes. The shoe industry hides a bunch of stuff with their canvas and glue.
Keep up the great job!
I love The Sandlot. Didnt even realize they sell these.
They actually sell a sandlot addition
Yeah they put out special Sandlot editions on big anniversaries of the first movie. Did one for the 20th in 2013, and the 25th in 2018. I've got me a few different pairs of "The Secret Weapons" lol
man you are absolutely smashing out the content! And awesome quality! keep this up you'll be over 1m in no time
I love your videos, I don't like shopping shoes and don't really care much about them but your videos just suck me in and I've binged a whole bunch of them since finding this channel
My son has been wearing Chuck Taylor's for a year but he wears them out in about 6 months. I'm going to try the P.F. Flyers after this. Great video! Thanks!
If you're wanting to compare different vans shoes, I would love to see you cut a Pro Skate variant in half. There are many differences, they are the highest quality, thickest material, most comfortable and durable vans, and are built quite differently. Love the video!
So stoked for the Palladiums! I absolutely swear by my Palladiums (I wear the "baggy" model with the fold over tops), I've never had a boot so comfortable or a boot that lasts so long!
ngl, I kinda miss the whole "Reveal" part where he just cut the whole thing in half and showed it to the viewer in one go. Felt pretty signature to this channel and I would always skip forwards to see the insides when I wanted to remind myself of what was inside them. It helped me chose between getting a pair of redwings or sticking with my Timberlands for now. Kinda miss it.
The quality of this channel has declined
deconstructing shoes is my kind of asmr.
@@joeybaseball7352 In a hot kind of way 😉
Joey Baseball okay 🤨🤷♀️
Yeah no shit. I dont even like asmr too much but I like the sound of him cutting up the shoes lol. He should make an asmr compilation i reckon it would get good numbers. Like different shoes and materials etc.
Love PF's and The Sandlot. Been rocking them for years.
PF Flyers look the best for sure. I like that toe guard the way it looks
Awesome dude you bought the palladiums I suggested. I love mine, got about 5 pairs now. Can't wait for the video 👍
I'm looking forward to the palladium review! They have such a great look to them I'm wondering how their longevity holds up for daily wear.
man i loved seeing ur channel progress so quickly! really ispiring me to work hard!
Awesome video! Great work man!! Thank you for the work you do.
Yay!!! Pf flyers finally getting some recognition.
Looking forward for the stan smith video. Got one for my heavy everyday beater and the outsole got pretty compressed over time and got really thin, had to get a new one cause I like the looks of it.
The modern Stan Smith is nothing like the original. I have inspected a 1970s Made in France pair - it has much better leather and sole, both are more solid and thicker. It is also noticeably heavier and last for years.
he should do the Sambas OG.
@@istillusezune82 that's true have you seen the premium stan Smith's? Are they worth the $120?
It feels like the $120 SS have the same outsole, but I don't really like that it has a different color (not white as regular SS). Wearing Converse and Ecco sneakers, and occasionally white SS. If you have ever tried Ecco shoes - as for me they are the longest-lasting sneakers - I've been using them since 2013.
I work at "Mark's" and we have some converse that are newer and they are more comfortable, and slightly wider. I have the classic low cut and have to wear the thinnest socks I can find with them, but the mid cuts I have, have some padding on the sides for the ankles and they are more comfortable.
I’ve got a pair of the PF Flyers Sandlot edition’s. I love those damn things. Ive only bought one pair of Chuck’s and they fell apart after about 2 months. Haven’t bought a pair since. I’ll definitely be buying more PF Flyers though.
I actually love you, this is fantastic, finally consumers have a little bit more guidance now
back around 89-90 I has a pair of PF flyers with black suede uppers and they were probably my favorite shoes ever.
Thanks for the review and cutting these open! It would be interesting to also check out the Novesta Star Master and Shoes like Pottery Low Tops as a canvas sneaker series
Fun Fact, the crew of the Nostromo in the scifi horror classic ALIEN wear (modified) all white PF Flyers. For a long time people thought they were Converse Chuck Taylors until high definition home video came along and people on the internet did some sleuthing and identified the distinct ridged toe bumper of the PF Flyer. But like a lot of off the shelf products turned props theyve been modified by the films costume dept (with metal D-eyelets) ...I thought that was an interesting bit of info anyway. Thanks for another great comparison video!
Omg nooo Weston you need to do the Palladiums!!! Growing up in London in the 90s these boots where the one!! Swear xxx🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼💯❤
Would be interested in seeing a comparison to the cheapo $20 version of this shoe style that Walmart and other stored sell in their house brands. My wife loves the women's versions from Walmart but I've always been too skeptical to buy myself their men's versions.
Love your uploads man !
Would love to see a video on frye boots! They’re my go-to for leather boots and I’d love to know about their leather quality and construction from someone with the knowledge
Mate😱my little ones just giving me the looks!👀 she also has converse & vans! I won't tell her! Nice one👍🇬🇧
Chuck 70s are my choice. They last me forever and I love how they look and feel.
I would love to see you do Thursday boots
damn dude, you blew up.
I rembember the very first cutting in half video, which was probably the catalyst
that's awesome
This is the review I was waiting for, YES!! No one reviews these shoes
I love how the converse looks on feet, BUUUUUUT, one time I borrowed my brothers and after 6 hours of wear my feet were killing me.
Used to wear mine all day back in the 70's through grade school and high school. They were the happening shoe back then. 💪😎
get the chuck 70,far better in every way
Chuck 70s are comfortable, especially with some insoles
I heard the 70s are even stiffer one the bottom sole.
My issue is what makes a shoe comfortable isn’t the inside, it’s the outer sole and how flexible it is, so that your foot isn’t fighting all these weird pressure points very step you take
The front piece of rubber that goes over the foxing on the front of the shoe is typically referred to as the toe "bumper" (like a car bumper)
Back in the 80's I used to go backpacking wearing Converse high tops, carrying about a 40 lb pack. Amazing what you can do when you are young.
Had a really cool pair of brown leather *PFlyers* in ‘07
They used to have a much more varied range of styles + colours in the late 00s 👟🥾👞
A shame they don’t anymore.
The PF wedge I assume as you said is to prevent some of the ankle pronation of most people in flat-soled shoes (the reason I could never be comfortable for long in a pair of Chucks)... maybe I should try the PF flyers then
Gucci Loafers are always considered such an all time classic essential, would love to see a video on those! Love your channel
Great video!!! FYI I received the Shattered Backboard wallet and it’s amazing! Thanks again
Great video as always! You should take a look into those made in japan converses, since they're owned and operated by a completely different company. I wonder if there's any significant difference in their construction as well.
I wear PF for almost 2 years now replacing my Chuck.Yes,they re more comfortable in a toe area. Also I'm slightly over pronation so the little bump on a inner sole help a bit to support my foot.In term of durability I think Chuck & PF re almost a same.
i actually bought a pair of these because of this video! i always was a chuck taylor guy, but the PF's are every bit as good, and often just a little bit less monay on the line.
Cool video. Back in the mid 60's PF Flyers main competition was Red Ball Jets where I lived. In the late 60's Converse was becoming a thing, and their main competition (at least where I grew up) was Bata Bullets. If nothing else, there were some pretty cool names for shoes back then. :-)
love your videos mate! cheers!
Would love to see a spreadsheet on materials and what build qualities are ranked against each other on shoes and boots reviewed
Those black PF Flyers look amazing
You should cut apart more performance shoes, it could really expand your audience and it would be super cool to see
some new balance and adidas
Would love to see the new pf flyers once they relaunch. Hopefully it won’t be too much longer. Unless the company that bought them from new balance just doesn’t ever get off the ground
They are already taking orders for them on the website. The woman that owns the brand now is daughter of Jim Davis the owner and chairman of New Balance. As far as I know the center hi will be exactly the same as it was when New Balance made them. We’ll know for sure once they are released.
I’d love to see you cut and go through a pair of Solomon trail running / hiking or tactical shoes (even more so the gortex version) . So many people say they’re the best of the best, but is that just product/brand loyalty or does the shoe back up that tall talk
Cut in half any jordans you can find like for cheap even if they are already used, any model i think would be really really cool to see whats inside of them
I got PF Flyers because I tried Chucks and they were not as comfortable, however I must have tried the cheaper ones, because it's possible that the more expensive Chucks could be more comfy. But even then the narrow toe area is a problem. Also I wanted a brand that not everyone was wearing.
The insole in the pf flyers supports the arch and prevents back pain if you walk a lot. I used to wear regular converse but started having back problems. The best converse was the premiere all star but the discontinued it. I then went to pf flyers but they are a very inconsistent shoe. I have three pairs the same size all different factories and none of them fit right. Ended up going back to chucks now that they have lunarlon insole
Damn! I never clicked a link so quick on TH-cam.
I swear up and down by PF Flyers.
Let's get to choppin' this fable.
PF Flyers along with Keds, just distant memories from childhood, both long gone I thought.
Awesome video. PF flyer Made in USA have a different midsole, leather toe cap, leather lining and14 oz Duck Canvas vs the 10 oz in the Sandlots. I think the Converse 70's are 12 oz canvas.
3:40 I think that extra layer is there so the shoes sole doesn't get deformed. I remember seeing people wear converse all the time in school and there feet would look all wacky because the soles to there chucks would wear out inward.
I think I remember that . 😂
I am a fan of the PF Flyers, and have been for years. They run true to size (unlike the large Men's Chucks, which run really long) and can be found on sale often in some colorway of the Center Hi. I usually replace the included insole with a better one, and I suspect the raised padded arch is just an old school feature that is being carried on out of old time sake. I have only owned 1 pair of Chuck 70's, which I mistakenly ordered a size down and found they were too tight, but they did seem to have that edge in quality. So I'd also place the quality in the order (from lowest to highest) Chucks / PF Flyers / Chuck 70. I like the quality of Vans over those 3, but just not a fan of Vans in terms of fit.
Have you thought about doing Greats? It comes in other colors, but it could go in the white sneaker series. I have two pairs I have been really happy with, but now I’m curious.
I love my pf flyers I got the USA made ones and was very happy to see them from the sandlot . Also so wish I played baseball still they make cleats that are of flyers .
Do pf flyers fit true to size or are they like chucks and fit smaller to size?
Thursday boots I have a pair and so far they have held up well but it be nice to know how they are made.
I’ve owned the classic Chucks and the Sandlots. Never tried the Chuck 70’s, but the PF Flyers are more comfortable than the Chucks I’ve owned.
This was a cool movie reference short episode!
I always thought they had a “solid shank”. I have both these and the grounder hi and I think the grounder definitely has some sort of shank in there
You should do some Palladium boots next since they're in the same style as PF Flyers and Converse
Seconded
Palladium were created for French paratroopers. Their backstory is way more badass than Chucks.
there's a pair in the back in kaki green :D
Yes!
@@familycorvette IDF were selling a similar boot in the surplus market. Uncomfortable as all get out.
Great video! I have worn shoes from both brands and have to say that PF Flyers are the best by far. It's not even a close call. They are more durable and comfortable than Converse. My favorite style is the Grounder Hi. That's a really particular shoe with some rich history behind it. Maybe you can consider it for a proper review. Cheers!
grounder hi are my favorite shoe (as in non-boot). super stylish, comfortable and durable.
All us poor kids in the 1960s wore Converse or their knock-offs. The rich kids wore Jack Purcell tennis shoes even in gym class. We played basketball and the rich kids played tennis so there was a good reason for both choices. When I got my first job pushing an ice cream cart at age 14 I wore Converse and my feet hurt like crazy. So, I bought a pair of Jack Purcell's. Not only were they comfortable but they lasted the whole Summer too without hardly any wear and tear. A couple of years ago I tried on a pair of Converse at Sports Authority and I was appalled at how uncomfortable they felt. Kids wear them today for fashion but I cannot imagine that they do so for comfort without an additional insert.
Speaking of Vans Vault, you should check out the Vans x Diemme collaboration. I managed to grab a navy pair at half price some years ago. The leather is amazing! It even has a small subtle Italian flag at the heel.
Thanks, nice job.
My guess on the insole was the same as yours to keep your heels from rolling or to keep your gate straight
Who would think to make a channel like this ..this is fucking awesome
I do believe the PF stands for Posture Foundation and they were owned by BF Goodrich back in the day made with tire rubber. They're now owned by New Balance I believe
How about the Altama Maritime Assault Boot? They're about the same price, with a similar look but seem heavier duty, and imo more comfortable.
I’ve seen them on amazon and I want a pair.
I second that
love my maritimes
Look great but many complain of them falling apart quickly.
I own 5 different pairs and they are the shit... super tough 💪
Have you try looking in the 5.11 chuck norris or even the altima maritime shoes?
I'd say that extra bit of layer in the PF flyer was intended as arch support, or to limit foot pronation (inwardly rolled ankles). It does look outdated from a PT point of view, but orthopedics are always changing, with some Dr's claiming their idea is always best.
Found out that the 'P.F' actually stands for 'Posture Foundation', and with a little research I found this little tidbit of info from an article on Heddels:
"Looking to develop new applications of their vulcanized rubber technology, tire company B.F. Goodrich began experimenting with rubber’s pediatric applications in the 1920s. The “P.F.” in PF Flyers stands for “Posture Foundation,” a patented insole technology developed by Goodrich associate, Hyman L. Whitman. The new insole shifted weight to the outside of the foot, allowing proper of alignment of the foot’s three main supporting bones."
Pretty cool and novel idea for the time! I wonder if it helps - I've never word a pair of P.F. Flyers but I love the look of the Grounder Hi's in the neutral colorway.
I know it would he a pricey video but could you do a video about any LOEWE leather product, they're a Spanish brand from 1864 and since 2011 have had a whole re modernisation of the brand, they specialise in leather products and charges an insane price for some products; I own a few products from them and the quality seems superb though and would love a review to see if the leathers and techniques they use are worth the price point
so idk how exactly they stack up in build comp but i have now a pair of white all star chucks and a pair of pf flyers that are poth pretty badly worn down to about the same level. the chucks are failing in the heels and starting the "Vans Split" where the outsole meets the binding tape. the pf's are pretty heavily worn down with some sever overpronation slope in the back and its still holding together like a champ where the bottom of the outsole meets the binding, so kudos to New Balance for having the superior outsole on the PF's
Hello I had them when I was young. That was the shoe back then. I had them in the 68. We had them on the basketball team.
You should do the ariat country mile i just got a pair and they are really comfortable and id really like to know what makes them like that
When I first saw these videos I thought you’d be using some big saw to slice shoes down the middle, but the fact you’re using some small knife is much more impressive.
Would love to see a review of the Shoes Like Pottery 01JP high top sneaker which is similar to Converse but made in Japan and therefore twice the price.
I'm guessing the extra padding is to compensate for foot pronation to even the wear on the exterior