Mercy Wasn't Just Killed, She Was Murdered
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.พ. 2023
- TIL I can't pronounce Sojourn.
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Pls don't bring this title format back. It's giving me 2016-17 PTSD with all those retarded videos
Can we leave the abelism in 2016 though? No need to use slurs
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Dps players on their way to explain why mercy is the problem and not the fact that their hero can deal 130-195 dmg effortlessly
Its dps imagine if they lower dmg and buffed healing the games wouldn't have an end even at that most of the time mercy can out heal most dps heroes dmg especially with the buffed she got not to long ago
Did you just call Sojs rail effortlessly? God i hate that everyone is just picking up on t500 takes, although they never play against a good Soj, or even a Soj in general
@@benjaminbuchler6064 sojourn isnt hard to play at all nor are her rails hard to land💀 and i main mercy like that should say something - and considering you can charge rail off of literally everything, yes it is effortless
@@benjaminbuchler6064 you have to be really bad to not be good on sojourn when you have a mercy pocket. And it’s not a top 500 take… she’s a problem as low as diamond. I don’t know about anything lower than that but I placed in diamond and a majority of my games were sojourn vs sojourn. Worked my way up to masters so far and it’s still the same. Not that rank means anything, I’m still playing with plats and top 500s lmao
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Mercy isn't weak now, she is just not fun anymore. I always die when I go to rez someone and can't fly away because G.A is on cooldown.
thats good, you shouldnt be able to remove your teammates mistakes and get away with it. ressing someone who failed to dive should get you killed.
@@cindrblok7948 i’d argue the whole support category is just “removing your teammates mistakes”, and i do hope you’re advocating for mercy to get a new ability, not just to make res worse.
@@KiaSoulEV-rt4sglet's face it, if mercy got her res removed all mercy mains would riot
Probably because you're rezzing in front of enemies? Lmao.
@@angryserpent69 my brother in christ, they already rioted for GA
Another part of Mercy's hero fantasy that is specifically stated by Blizzard is the title of a "Triage Healer".
To be a Triage Healer, this means you need to be flying around constantly and keeping all your teammates above critical, and yet what did they do?
Nerf her movement so that now shes stuck in the backline saving her ga for if she gets dived.
Sad
“Saving for if she gets dived” literally so accurate. I play total mayhem ONLY on mercy now because GA cooldown goes down to ONE SECOND. DVA’s can’t get a kill off me because I’m like a mosquito. That’s how I USED to be in comp & quick play, now I have to wait and keep it for when I need to bounce off to Hanzo or Genji to avoid the ramattra trying to murder me.
I feel this so hard! If i actually try to get to all pf my crit teamates i almost always find myself in a bad position
@Frog Wizard Exactly! It's impossible to save ppl who push up too far because it's just a suicide mission
@@fo0o0d welcome to every support who isn’t busted. I play Kiriko, Ana, Moira and sometimes Mercy. This is what happens when people are out of position. Even if I Tp to a teammate to help them it usually gets me killed
@cynthia hembree Thats fair, its not our fault if our team is out of position. However it was nice to save those who were and even be able to save those hooked by Hog since they dont insta die now
Valkyrie has definitely lost its impact. It often doesn’t even feel like an ultimate and more like an extra ability on long cooldown. Valk is described as “abilities are enhanced” but it no longer enhances resurrect and now that you no longer have perma regen you’re still very killable if you’re not careful or in a tight space. To bring valks ultimate impact back i think it should either; allow for a second single use rez charge, OR allow the next casted rez to be a faster rez
As a doomfist player our "ultimate" is also absolutely worthless as a tank ult. As we take ourselves out of the fight to then do 100-15 damage at the outer ring
@@ratinc.t3748 I miss old doomfist so much
This take is just wrong. Yeah i want to back to 2017 where if i manage to pick off 2 players on the enemy team it doesn't mean shit because they have a mercy. Valk is a good ult because it gives mercy very good survivablily. Im sorry but if you think mercy is very killable in valk it's not valk it's you. Ontop of mass healing and mass damage boost along with the new healing passive where healing is boosted by 50% if the target is under half health if you think this 90hps along with 30% dmg boost on 4 people while the mercy is flying around like she has creative mode on isn't impactful your just plain wrong.
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@@ratinc.t3748 thanks
Nicely put together video!
There's some things I disagree with in terms of Mercy being a sponge for DMG (there's rare cases the example used actually happens) and her hero fantasy being that of a main healer but you do a great job going over what's going on with Mercy in a fun and interesting way.
Mercy's hero fantasy IMO is more about being the slippery active flying support and the idea of a Triage Healer. I think that title fits her well if only there were some adjustments made.
I talk about it pretty often but Mercy's Valkyrie has felt lack luster for a long time until they made the healing change in the last patch. The healing change gives it more defensive usage which is great but considering the ultimate is supposed to enhance her abilities, it feels like a bit of a joke with all the things it doesn't do anymore
my favorite iteration of mercy was when they gave her a mini valk that replaced her res during that one streamer patch! the ga cd is way too long now. they basically doubled it
Hi skiesti
Amazing video! I completely agree. Especially with your point about the healing power creep with every new support that was released. I remember Surefour mentioned a while back that OW just has way too much healing now. Remember when the only healers were Mercy, Lucio and Zen?
ow2 does NOT have a healing problem period. the issue with supports is their utiltiy not their healing.
@@cpenner7086 yeah often times the supports that are meta are the ones providing the most utility to their team
Kiriko has like the worst healing output out of all the main healers yet she's the most powerfull of them because of her survivability and her utility
@@cpenner7086 ow2 DOES have a healing problem, try to kill, as a dps, a character meant to get kills, a support pocketing another support, or just a tank, or even another dps, pocketing in this game has become too strong that's why mercy was meta, then blizzard decided to increase her healing on low targets, now pocketing is even better and the pocketed hero is basically unkillable
@@darkcat6530 And Lucio was meta for 1 and a half seasons because Speed boost was just really good for the tanks until Hog became meta for the rest of season 2.
@@blazypoo1723 lucio was and still is pretty good as a support
I remember picking soujurn up for the first time this season.( I main primarily mercy kiriko in season 3) I went 40 and 5 against masters players and I don’t even play dps like that. Ultimately mercy and mercy players are witch-hunted because she is seen as an “easy character”. Baseline she is simple but by far not the easiest to master or optimize in the long run. With recent healing changes valk became an even better temo ult. While she is stronger in a way now, she is so much less Fun than before.
only heroes you could put lower than her are moira and junkrat
@@purplewine7362 base line reaper, moira, junkrat, rein, and torb are all easier to play than mercy. I’m tired of pretending that just picking mercy will get them value because the truth is that if you’re anywhere above plat you can’t just switch to mercy and survive or get max value…
@@Sizzyl you just answered your own comment. They stand still because nothing can get to them in time and if they try to then the dps (likely a sniper) just deleted them from the game. But even these statements I severely doubt. Mercy doesn’t typically pocket widows which are most prevalent Junkertown and Havana , Hanzo isn’t very picked in Gm currently, and ashe requires you to be far closer than widow to get value (ashe is likely who the mercy will pocket). By damage boosting the ashe you must be semi close to the fight due to junkertowns geometry and I severely doubt that a Gm mercy is just standing still when they know they could easily be eliminated. The mercy could also be pocketing a soujurn but soujurn is broken period and mercy would be required to move… So I’ve come to two conclusions either you are lying or your example is severely Cherry picked
@@Sizzyl yes it is rather odd even more odd that she didn’t just get deleted for even trying that but every game is different I suppose
@@-NoNo. why are you compairing mercy's skill floor to the skill floors of other charaters. It's quite seriously a waste of your time because the skill floor doesn't mean anything because it's the skill ceiling that matters. The ceiling is the charater at their full potential. So yeah rien is easier to pick up than mercy (although not by much) It's much harder to play rien to his full potential than mercy and thats what actually matters.
One of my biggest gripes with DPS players is that they act like Rez is something very easy to do. When in practice it is, however in actuality you should only ever Rez as Mercy if you know the fight could be won, or if it’s absolutely safe. But even then, Mercy is extremely vulnerable since her animation is locked in, and if you move too far from the soul it’s cancelled. Not only that but any form of CC, blocks her from finishing the rez.
Rez is annoying I know because I also play DPS when I’m not playing Mercy, but people also act like they can’t bait Mercy when she’s going for a rez. It’s just frustrating.
It's just not a fun ability. Even if it's balanced, you're pausing the game on your team to try to get value(not guaranteed) by standing still and being vulnerable for 2 seconds. Or if you aren't vulnerable, then you're probably rezzing a pick then the enemy team worked for, for free, at full health. None of any of that is fun for anyone but the person that gets rezzed. Damage boost is a different topic, but rez needs to be removed and replaced with something else that allows her to be more active in the fight. Even damage boost is frustrating, but I can understand what he means by it being a check for power creep
So basically have the smallest bit of gamesence and positing to essentially undo a fight winning play. Seems fair. The easier example to show why this isnt an fun ability to play against is a widow duel. Say you won a widow duel you outplayed the enemy widow and now your team are fighting a 4v5 and should win. But wait! The mercy player is rezzing behind a corner and nobody on your team can deny the rez. So now you need to outplay your counterpart twice to win that with any other support would have only been once.my main problem here is that in that situation there is absolutely no way to deny that rez like unless you have a ball rolling in at moch 10 past the other 4 players on the enemy team to boop the rez which usally doesnt happen.
@@mc_3232 You’re 100% right, I’ve killed many Widows as Mei, only for a Mercy to rez the dead Widowmaker. It’s an annoying skill, I acknowledge that as a Mercy main.
@@mc_3232 Do you have this same gripe with suzu and immortality? Those abilities are utilized more often and can save multiple people at once.
@@ATH-camUser1 Suzu shouldn't exist in the way it does right now, and people have been complaining about immortality field since Baptiste released. The fact that both Kiriko and Baptiste are ridiculously powercrept doesn't make Res any less annoying to deal with, though I will say that I personally find Res much less problematic than Suzu and Immo, particularly the former.
you nailed this!! she’s my favorite part about the game as someone who’s never played fps before this. I started playing in November on switch with mercy, then got a pc in january, started playing comp in this most recent season in february and climbed to gold 3 only using her (and a little kiriko admittedly). the most recent patch is so frusturating even as a newer player that hasn’t experienced all her phases. she is SO not the issue in the game, she has pretty much no way to defend herself consistently yet they keep nerfing her when dps are the issue :/
Position better.
Lol I die less cause if my teammates do dumb shit I don't follow unless I see they can win.
Idk as a walking mercy before the big buff I have no problem and actually saving people feels great.
She doesn't defend herself, her teamates have to while she flies around, not getting hit for free.99
you realize she is stronger half the time right? Half the issue with her last patch was that she practically was unkillable for movement that takes very little skill to learn and master when compared to any other character. A character this easy and uninteractive to play against should not be high rank meta ever. The fact that you can actually dive her is so good now.
girl… shes the best healer in the whole game and you literally cannot punish her for bad positioning in a positioning based shooter. pls be so fr
@lolicongang.4974 I think flying and stalling was the most skillful thing about her though so she does feel a bit lame now. I'm still GM1 it just feels like saving ppl in a bad position just isn't possible anymore and if you get dived and don't get any help it's hard to survive long now.
as someone who's been playing mercy consistently since 2016, you hit the nail right on the head. I hope this video does numbers so other people can hear your take!
Same, we did go through every rework and it was always hard. But this change recently was really to much. They never touched GA before and its her main ability to use. I never felt so bad as mercy to not fly around. Its like leaving your whole team behind. You cant even follow up with your whole team.
Even though the amount of sojourn's got lower nowadays in OW2 from what I've seen, I can't forgive how this character that manages to stay out of any proper nerf every single time, managed to make Blizz nerf my favorite healer in the most senseless way ever...
I agree with almost everything here but rez. Her rez is game changing if pulled off on the tank, and also just the fact that mercy COULD rez their teammates requires concentration/attention from the team that got the pick to ensure she does NOT rez someone after an initial pick. The inherent value of her rez is there even when she might not rez.
Then engage on the 2.5 seconds she is away making it a 3v5 or even a 3v4 or guard the soul where her teammate died.
There are aswell other abilities you have to aware of, for example bastions turret configuration, Ana anti nade, Baptistes Lamp, DVas deflect, Rheins charge or echos whole kit.
If you don't then you end up failing really badly, throwing your mei ult getting sucked by dva etc.
But I get your sentiment, it is an unfun ability for everyone except the revived person. Then again, there is nothing else that counters annoying oneshots.
Rez also requires another ability to be used for rez to even be possible if you are rezzing in the open, which if you're rezzing a tank you probably are rezzing in the open. Suzu, lamp, ice wall, or having the other support without such utility pour all their healing into Mercy in hopes she doesn't get one shot. Rez is a slow ability that requires another ability and coordination for it to even work without dying. If not, just stick to rezzing that one dps that tried flanking and died for it.
I would argue that rez isn't as game changing as you think it is. Normally comps are mirrored in competitive so both teams would have a mercy. You have to stop healing to rez. You will most likely die when rezzing in sight of an enemy. And if your team is dying and you rez a downed player, that isn't going to fix the mechanical or game sense difference of players dying on your team. Normally teams aren't evenly matched to where a rez is the key to victory. That's why Brig/Zen is an ultra scary comp for season 3. It doesn't matter if you can rez if you are doing more damage than the team can take.
@@dakotaseckman1457 I’d much rather sacrifice a Hanzo who isn’t getting anything done for a Rein who’s been absolutely slamming their whole team. Stay mad about it I presume? I don’t know what you want mercy players to do about your issues. We can’t change what her skill set is. We can’t just not use rez when it, whether you like it or not, IS A GAME CHANGING ABILITY. If you pull a pick on the main tank that’s been defending their whole team, that’s a major opening. Oh. Not anymore. They just got rezzed and now the push is back to the choke point. It’s a lot more beneficial than YOU think
@@clownrat5759 I see a lot of personal scenario in your reply. Sucks you got stomped, but it's overwatch and matches like that can happen especially with lower ranks against Rein. Sounds to me like you and your teams don't know how to play around him. As soon as you get to ranks where players know how to work around hammer boy it all changes and if a tank goes down.. the fight is over a majority of the time. It might seem game changing at your rank, but there is a reason master and higher are just letting players spawn instead of rez.
Even in your showcase of mercy's "tankiness" was her with literally every teammate taking damage and she can barely regenerate out of rein's swings. Like in what scenarios would that happen and is it really THAT impressive of a passive...
Think about it like this, if she’s healing a tank that is taking a lot of damage and going below 50 percent of total Hp, the tank stays alive because the 50% heal buff when heal targets are below 50% hp, solution? Kill mercy right? Problem is, since she now heals from healing other people, if she’s healing her tank that is constantly half their health, and healing faster, she heals herself faster TOO, and it’s so annoying for heros that do damage in bursts, or low damage but constantly like Ashe, Winston, Moira, doomfist, Cassidy, bastion (recon form), genji, Torb, Baptiste, lucio, rien, sigma, and brig, she’s literally immortal at that point and that’s if she doesn’t try flying away
@@Fillr_ that is actually correct in fact i knew ever since i saw that passive for mercy that i had to pick Widowmaker to finish her annoying change
@@Fillr_ the other support heal the tank fully and now mercy had no healing and only tries to fly away. Also timing your valkyrie before an alky dies is hard cus if the abimation that playes and whdre you cannot connect beam
@@janikut_ still doesn’t stop the fact it encourages healbotting the tank
@@Fillr_ when tank is critical it comes to use
Someone send this to Blizzard asap so they get working on their mess again and fix it. If they dont know how, this video instructs it very well. Good job sir, you gained a subscriber here.
When you said Mercy was murdered, I thought you were referring to the voice actor. Rest in peace.
LOL
It definitely is an unfortunate title for the video
Omg you have a dark mind 😂
I'm glad someone finally said that her entire kit wasn't an issue until Ashe and Sojourn were introduced.
In all honesty it sounds like both tank/dps players want all support's abilities removed, have no value to their ults, and just be total healbots at this point. Even heard from players that Lucio's speed boost needs to get nerfed... It's genuinely insane the amount of hot takes I've been seeing against any support's utility, I could agree when it was Bap's original immortality and Kiriko's suzu, but some of these takes I've been seeing is baffling.
Rez will always be a annoying ability. That doesn't take awway from mercy's ballance, but makes people complain about her
Yeah fr I don't really speak on it tho bc she's only counter to someone getting one shot
Not rly, she can't move while reviving others, so its easy to kill her too, so it can actually backfire, or she can get inrerrupted by being pushed or stunned. Pretty balanced if you ask me
@@plsbuffme5470 she can absolutely move while rezing
@@KobeLoverTatum moving with a 90% slow down yeah, more like spinning rather than moving
Idk why they won’t just do like they did with some ults and remove damage boost for certain abilities too. That way you don’t nerf Mercy, you don’t nerf other heroes by proxy, and you only nerf the actual problem abilities.
I know they want things to be consistent but they’ve already proven they *can* pick and choose what’s damage boostable, so they might as well add rail gun to the list.
I kind of wish Mercy could just get fully reworked again. I hate being a damage boost backpack for DPS players. Her playstyle is not fun at all, especially now that GA has been nerfed.
And get rid of Rez. I’m sick of it being the justification for her not being able to have actual fun or impactful changes when you barely get to even use it as it is. It’s too risky in most situations, especially now that they’ve gotten rid of constant regen in Valk because that was the only way you could get risky rezzes off.
As a Mercy main I now need to hide behind walls hoping that no one pushes too far since I can't do anything unless I want to use my only way to escape to keep up with my team.
My heals barely keep anyone alive now that my heal beam was gutted. Sure, it saved some lives, but if your target is below 50 and your heals don't seem to be doing anything, they'll just die.
Moiras are a pain as I'm unable to escape their DPS orb and no skill primary.
My passive doesn't help at all if my enemies stop attacking my team and begin focusing on me (trust me, it happens every other game).
I die a lot more now. Happy? Blue beam is fine. Rez is fine.
My GA is not fine, and my passive is not fine.
I guess all the DPS and Tank mains want are just heal bots who hide behind a wall... or is that just for mercy?
Skill issue I fear
"My heals barely keep anyone alive now that my heal beam was gutted". Bro it was LITERALLY BUFFED WHAT. HALF HP BURST IS 20x better and you overall heal more than before.
"As a Mercy main I now need to hide behind walls hoping that no one pushes too far since I can't do anything unless I want to use my only way to escape to keep up with my team."
God I feel so bad for you that your character still has some of the best movement in ow2 for a support AND has to use cover now (like every other support). And you can't help overextended dps or tanks that easily (like every other support).
Like bro this coping is hilarious you literally just need to get better lmao.
im a mercy main and you actually suck big fat mega balls at the game bro literally the changes just gave her counterplay mercy is not trash because you can't mindlessly fly around like a bot
As we said, support arent human xd
Jk tho
@@simpsonrrrr2724 tbf all the supports that have to hide behind cover also have the ability to do damage on their own accord, mercy only has pistol which is not commonly used besides the occasional opportune moment. So she feels more clunky because she begins to lack that agency which guardian angel is supposed to help provide.
The extra healing to lower hp teammates is nice but that’s gone after they’re half health. I played Mercy a decent lot before and after the update and found you can’t really switch between different teammates as much because damage is so high having half hp teammates is bad. The slower heals after half hp really forces me to stick with one target more just a little bit longer, rather than how I used to play by anticipating who would take damage by the enemy, how much and where, before they got to critical health, then switch again if needed, and repeat, while also being able to have time to heal higher hp targets. I think this is still pretty manageable though.
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As a mercy main I enjoy the new health regen but having a longer cool down for guardian angel does make me have to manage when to use it more.
Once again, quality content
I've actually never thought about it like this. Very well explained, good video!
I had a stroke when you said Valk was worse than whole hog.
Could you talk about the problems with doomfist if you can? Kinda like what you did with mercy here?
Yeah us doom mains are struggling too that 1 second increase to his punch is horrible
@@DaffyTaffy93 they should just bring back OW 1 doomfist. they did him dirty :')
@@ihatethisurlshit Doomfist definitely should be in the damage role for sure, but they need remove stun from his Punch, as well as wall impact damage since no stun means enemies would be able to use abilities while being knocked back before hitting the wall. Then, they need to balance Punch around just having impact damage (probably 140 or so); which would also involve reducing his charge up time so he is more snappy.
Of course Power Block would be changed back to Uppercut, or he would need some other ability instead.
@@michaelc7418 no. He never fit the damage role. Melee heroes never worked well there because ranged heroes always were a better pick. Doom swung from either useless to oppressive with no in-between during his entire time as a damage hero. Tanks are supposed to be brawly and it fits his playstyle better anyways. And since they’re apparently changing heroes based on how much they annoy people, it’s no wonder he got moved and his lethality was severely nerfed. I get it was fun for Doom mains to stunlock and nearly instantly delete every support besides Moira and Lucio but nobody else enjoyed it lol
Him being pure melee forces him into the tank role. The only other hero in the entire game that isn’t a tank but is melee based is Brig, but she’s a tank/support hybrid… and it’s because she’s a melee hero. Melee just lends itself better to a brawly tank class than anything else.
@@razrv3lc Doomfist was like many other close range damage heroes who have some way to get into the fight, so him being a "melee DPS" was not a problem; we have characters like Reaper in damage. There definitely is a good way to make Doomfist into a damage hero that people don't get too annoyed at fighting against.
You said: "I get it was fun for Doom mains to stunlock and nearly instantly delete every support besides Moira and Lucio but nobody else enjoyed it lol"
-> Like I stated in my last post, they could've removed the stun from Rocket Punch & just made it do like 140 impact damage only, this way he is not 1-tapping people (they can buff the charge time of it and possibly something else in his kit to compensate). Also, something I did not mention is that they should've also nerfed the knockback of Rocket Punch so he is not displacing enemies too much as a damage hero. If they did those things, Doomfist would have been perfectly fine in the damage role.
This video has some great production value
After using mercy for like 30 hours with the update Im fine with her nerf found out how to better utilize the movement and also now having the 50% boost helps under half helf
Yeah people just cry and cry cause they want the broken movement back in some way.
This buff is so much bigger than that.
this really isn’t the issue people have, literally anyone half decent at mercy is going to get used to the changes she was given after a few games. the issue is the fact it wasn’t needed, didn’t address actual issues, and is objectively not fun. it’s a pointless set of changes
@@lolicongang.4974 anyone who plays mercy for a long time will get used to it but that doesn’t mean we need to clap and cheer while they take away the main reason anyone changes mercy
ga never was the issue ANYONE complained about, so why did it need to suffer the most? if anything, i have used damage boost more because mercy is now the pocket machine and the ga cooldown has barely affected my rezzes because i did not do crazy rez before anyway, so both the issues people may have woth mercy have been absolutely not been taken care of
if anything, mercys best playstyle is as a stationary pocket that move only when absolutely needed, a playstyle NO ONE was asking for
I perform the same but it’s just really really annoying sometimes. The movement could not have been broken if her deaths did not change when it was gutted
@@idontknowanymore9966 So would you rather have mercy as a healbot by just nerfing all of her damage boost? That was the other option and blizz prob made the better decision to keep utility in her kit while making her feel counterable.
this editing is so cool
Lets not forget the other half of the equation. Blizzard are only balancing Mercy for healing, completely forgetting that other supports both heal and deal damage. Either Mercy needs to be able to deal damage along side the other supports while healing or she needs to out heal the other supports in order to justify picking her over Moira.
omg! how could u forget the additional 5 bullets they gave her to go pew pew with? players are so entitled - Overwatch Devs
It's called blue beam
@@kittikorn6674 The devs have stated that's not what they're balancing Mercy around.
Mercy already has a massive reason to pick her over Moira: damage boost and Rez. Those are two very powerful abilities. Moira has no utility and is worse at pretty much everything besides flat out healing and damage.
I think sojourn should only be able to crit shot with rail if she’s ulting
I feel like this is a really bad title seeing that the Brazilian VA was murdered LOL
While I agree with your points, I love the fact that my hard earned picks are not undone by a mercy who then escapes with zero consequences. Res is just frustrating to deal with in 5v5 when there is one less tank to hold space and less cc to cancel it. It seemed like if you didn't kill mercy before the animation finished, she would fly away scott free regardless of how deep into enemy territory she was. You *should* be able to punish her shortly after her play, not just during.
res is pretty difficult to pull off tho and has a decent cooldown its a high risk high reward ability
@@musikmikser8886 that's the point. She should die on at least 50% of res in team fights at least. Old GA allowed her to safely res almost every time she attempted assuming she didn't mindlessly just fly into like 5 people. Now I see mercy players actually having to use cover and call for help when going for a res. Before the change the meta was literally as simple as mercy calls she is going to res and kiriko let's her know when suzu is up and mercy flies in, gets suzud during the vulnerability animation and then immediately flies out risk free. There was zero counterplay outside of hitting a widow or Hanzo headshot as she was flying out or hooking her with pre nerf hog.
@@Joeyratatouille In your example it sounds like the issue is suzu, not rez.
Your suggestion to remove Sojourns headshot capacity I think is really underappreciated and smart, and should be discussed more. She's overpowered in the higher skill brackets where people know how to aim, in the lower skill brackets she's more comparable in performance to Soldier 76.
actually quite a few top 500 have said to remove her headshot as well... but since it's not dps top 500, blizzard won't listen as usual
didn't expect to agree with this but I think you're right about Mercy being a litmus test for power creep. Nice video!
great editing and quality
As a hanzo player, god damn i need the hanzo video now lmao
At first I thought this was gonna talk about mercy's original voice actor... You guys should look into it.. it's sad no one talks about it, she was just forgotten
Do you mean Christiane Louise, her original Brazillian voice actress? Because Lucie Pohl is the original English voice actress and always has been, and as far as I can tell the Brazillian OW community hasn't forgotten about Louise (there were some posts about her voicelines being used in OW2 alongside the new VA's voicelines).
3:57 because that requires actual skill and not simply holding right click from where the enemy team can't even see you. Same thing here: 14:56
You're right, it requires the *teammate* you're boosting to be good. If they can't hit their shots, you're better off jumping into the Ilios well as mercy. The mercy player has 0 control over whether or not her teammates are good enough to pocket, and the only control she does have is the gamesense to know who to pocket
As a damage player, I agree. Sojourn needs nerfs, and this take is simply common sense. Anybody who disagrees is a Sojourn main desperately trying to justify nerfing Mercy’s damage boost because THEY TOO know that Sojourn is currently still too strong.
Looking forward to the Hanzo video implied at 4:13
This is a very good video!
Ur editing is very nice
Bro The quality was so good that i tought this channel had like 300k subs And i got shocked when i saw those 400 vews
this video was trash lol
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The devs need to watch this video omg very well said!!!
yes revert the mercy change because shooting a character that can go at supersonic speeds at any second in any direction is so fun to play against
The issue with mercy in high play was how fast she was able to get out of situations and even tho u get her 1 shot she would instantly change direction witch will just have her heal her self
The issue was (and still is) Soujorn. Mercy was a throwpick until Soujorn needed her in S2 for oneshots, despite Mercy having that level of unkillability all along. Her not dying didn’t mean anything in S1 when she was garbage even with GA as it was. The only thing that changed was Soujorn and Mercy got changed for it.
Zanbot tbh, will you make a video about junkrat? i'd love to see what u think bout him, i think because of his lately nerfs plus upcoming nerf of reduced hitbox of nades after a bounce, he should get a buff for his movement, perhaps more maneuverability in air or alternatively, more directional mine jumping, so to say if you detonate mine to the side of you, you're launched further but not sent upwards much and if you detonate it above you when in air, it just sends you on the ground
Her nerf has been quite self-contradiction?
- Nerfing the GA = I should hide more
- healing below 50% is faster = I should fly more (to utilise this to the max)
- the beam disconnect CD is not changed = ??? so I should fly more but take cover more, what
I wouldn't mind the nerfs at all if they at least had a coherent goal in mind but this is a mess.
Ever since that Mercy nerf came through I decided to play Brig out of spite. I play her now, I just don't have fun with Mercy anymore. It's a pain.
The Sojourn situation is more concerning that before because she has been dominating the meta ever since the game was released. I am speculating myself this is due to the f2p format to give the new plays a shiny nice toy to play with.
It's still unhealthy to the game.
The below changes are:
(1) Aimed at making Mercy have more impact on the outcome of a match, because the overall value she provides is lower than the other Supports.
(2) To make Mercy feel smoother and more impactful to play.
*Mercy*
Caduceus Staff
* Damage Boost increased from +25% to +30%
Caduceus Blaster
* Ammo reduced from 25 to 20
* Damage per shot increased from 20 to 22 (100 to 110 DPS)
* Projectile speed increased from 50 to 55 meters per second
Guardian Angel
* Jump and Crouch cancel charge bar removed
* Jump and Crouch cancel distance traveled set to 7.5 meters (was 2.5-12.5 meters)
* Jump and Crouch cancel active ability state duration reduced from 1.5 to 1.2 seconds
Resurrect
* Distance from target to interrupt Resurrect increased from 7 to 9 meters
* Cast time reduced from 1.75 to 1.6 seconds
* Movement speed penalty while casting reduced from -75% to -70%
* Cooldown reduced from 30 to 28 seconds
Valkyrie
* Duration reduced from 15 to 12 seconds
* Ultimate Cost increased from 1820 to 1900 points (4.4% nerf)
* Healing increased from 60 to 75 health per second
* Secondary Fire now increases allies' attack and reload speed by +10%, in addition to the +30% Damage Boost
* Now reduces Resurrect's cast time by -50% (1.6 -> 0.8 seconds)
* Activating Valkyrie now reduces Resurrect's current cooldown by 8 seconds
Overall, these changes would still leave Mercy at a much weaker state than 2017 Mercy when she was a must pick; the game has also changed a lot since then. I am sure Mercy players would love the feeling of playing with these changes.
If my changes were to hit live, of course a thing or two could be adjusted a little later if needed, but overall these changes would make Mercy feel so much better to play.
A very long and informative way to say "nerf Sojourn".
I have 500+ hours on her gm 3,shes fine, her healing heals u is littarly makes u un killable
Well, Blizzard claims they did this and now the most immediate utility of Valkyrie (ga cd reset) doesn't work half the time and they have doubled down on immobility. Beam breakage on valk means it's useful in anticipation of a lot of sustained team damage, but the most useful, immediate effect of pressing q is to bail yourself out of the awkwardly long ga cd
This video title reminds me of something very sad about Mercy's Brazilian voice actress (Christiane Louise), who is curious, feel free to search.
Mercy needs changes to her kit's skill expression because 30 CD Rez will always incentivize pocketing behaviour. No matter what circumstance, her pocket will always be alive as long as they position decently and survive for longer than 20 seconds. That creates a very frustrating gameplay cycle for everyone except for the DPS being pocketed. Enemies have to pray the pocketed DPS is incompetent, Mercy has to hug one person for the entire game or she's considered throwing, the other healer has to do 2x the work, and the outcome of the game revolves around the pocket doing good/bad.
I'm always going to propose a charging system for Rez, in return for its cast time removed. She can only cast Rez once she accumulates a certain healing amount on allies. Incentivize Mercy to juggle beams to everybody, and punish excessive pocketing behaviour. She can still pocket, but it's over once the pocket dies and she didn't account for charging up Rez. This can also help enemies recognize a Mercy's play pattern. If she begins to pocket, that could mean her Rez is up and force her to burn it. If she's juggling beams and playing with the team, she's working on charging it.
I don't know how I was so stupid. It would be so simple to change Sojourn in a fair way. Just remove her headshot ability of her right click. I mean, she can still carry if you can hit your headshots with your left click, but the right click shouldn't need a headshot multiplier...
TlDr; been playing for 6 years and been a flex player ALL 3 ROLES. I am a mercy enjoyer 100000%
Peaked at 3890 in overwatch 1 and maintained mid masters until OW2. current D2 on the grind to get master again.
Mercy is better now with these changes
Mercys main job has ALWAYS been a pocket bot for the dps. Specifically blue Beam.
The only reason you picked her was to pocket boost a dps and allow them to carry the game and have rez to undo mistakes and being somone back early. All the good mercys knew this and were able to climb to high ranks(masters and gm) and all the tank healing mercy players who refuse to pocket sps and wanted to focus on tanks never made it above diamond if they were lucky to get diamond at all.
Having damage boost was a good compensation because all other supports can heal AND/OR contribute to the teams damage by providing some utility abilities. This is also why mercy isn't technically considered a main healer despite what Jeff said because if you were playing optimally you'd pair her with ana or bap so THEY would be the main support while mercy was pocketing(dmg boost) the dps.
This change arguably makes mercy better because she's so much harder to kill now while also making her pocket target harder to kill. The GA changes are litterally irrelevant and if you are put off by a couple second cooldown on one of the best movement abilities in the game then its simply a skill issue. She still has some of the best movement it's just that now you actually have to think about where you're going and why and not just spam your little dash fly every second of the match. Welcome the world of having a balanced ability. The rest of the hero roster has had to manage our cooldowns for the last 6 years.
And I say all of this as a flex player who first got to master 3890 in season 13 of overwatch 1 as a dva main and then got 2 alt accounts to master 1 as a support main and other as dps before role queue was a thing.ive since dropped tank and have been a hybrid dps/support main for the last 2 years and have maintained mid diamond-low masters on several accounts.
I love mercy think highly of her but it's the community of people in plat and below who don't know what the hell they're talking about when it comes to balance and actually how to play the game effectively and play the hero correctly that annoy the hell out of me.
Not that I'm a perfect God tier player and have all the answers but when your peak is barely scratching the tip of diamond and then dropping back down to gold you don't know a damn thing about proper balance or how to play your hero. That's just a fact. Become a student of the game first. Learn from people better than you who actually know what they're talking about and then apply it to your situation.
Mercy is better balance wise right now than she has been in a while. Less fun sure yeah for some people but you can argue that some people enjoy the immortal flying moth more than simply dashing around at Mach 5 constantly.
I can speak from a dps perspective that it was hard to kill a mercy with good movement, now she's slowed down so she's easy to find and shoot but if i miss a couple shots she just doesn't die because of that new passive. So she's still just as hard to kill just in a different way. Before it was just finding her and killing her quickly before she could fly away, now it's killing her through her healing passive which is actually way harder.
And as a support when I do play mercy I have litterally 0 issues with her movement in terms of my survival. Yes there are times when I die because I flew in somewhere I shouldn't have gone to and old movement I would've been able to fly back out but that's dumb. If I fly in somewhere stupid I should be punished for it. Imagine if moira had her fade on a short 2 second cooldwon like old GA. There would be riots. Period.
All you gold and silver mercy players in these comments need to stop think "why have I been stuck in silver for 6 years" and realize it's not your team. Its you. Play smarter, play better. Mercy may be less fun for you now but the hero is actually BETTER with these changes.
Something I´ve experienced a lot after the nerf is dps will target me, It´s more difficult to evade because of new GA and 20% slower to go backwards and then when I start to regen it´s a lot slower and need others to be damaged in order to regen
Then I´m not at 100% health and get chased by the dps players and die
When I win is because I spent a lot of time not moving and damage boosting
For me it’s the tanks. Mainly dive characters like Dva who will watch me use GA to another teammate and dive me knowing I have a CD to wait for. It’s so frustrating when you can’t get away from anyone targeting you, and keep dying every time you get back to your team because you have one tank who ensures your death. Not to mention dps who just.. don’t care?? You’re dying??
Sounds good
That last sentence is the key to winning with her. You cannot play her like you used to. She is encouraged to sit behind a wall and damage boost a DPS for the entirety of the game now. Only use GA to get away from damage on you. It’s unfortunate but this is what the changes did to her.
People thought she was hard to kill before the GA nerf but now they still aren’t killing her anymore than they used to (Blizzard confirmed her deaths on average didn’t change) and it’s fully because she doesn’t even expose herself to the enemy team anymore. There was at least a chance a stray shot would hit her back when she was more mobile but good luck killing someone that never even is visible lmao. And now she heals even harder so that pocket Soujorn is going to die even less.
This situation was truly a monkey’s paw moment. They cried about her mobility so Blizzard replaced it with her still being equally as unkillable but also able to heal more to make up for her removed mobility.
@@razrv3lc Honestly no mercy player WANTS to play like this though. The mobility she had was what MADE HER so fun to play, regardless of people whining about it or not. I can promise you, as a mercy player with 200+ hours, it is not fun sitting behind a wall pocketing somebody. I used to be a FORCE on mercy, carrying and all. Now I can’t even go to my tank to heal them because I’m terrified I’ll get dived the minute I use GA. It’s really awful for mercy players now because the INCENTIVE with mercy was her mobility like Lucio, Bap & Moira. They essentially turned her into Ana but just sliiightly better because you don’t have to aim. It’s ridiculous
"Damn, Sojourn really is a problem we should nerf gen-"
"Actually boss we already did that and they might send actual ninjas if we do it again."
"Oh shit right, just nerf Mercy"
for me as a mercy main, her dam boost should boost reload, unload, attack, charge speed, rez time should base on teammate health, valk should gain self regen, change the passive to a new one cause THERE IS NEVER A TIME MY WHOLE TEAM IS LOW AND STAND NEXT TO EACH OTHER SO I WOUDN;T BE ABLE TO HEAL MYSELF AS A "TANK", ga nerf should get rework and yeah hope u like and pls consider share it, The idea of dam boost came from a tiktoker btw
Don't mind this either , also a comment to boost the algorithm
great video
Interesting title considering the original voice actor for mercy was stabbed to death in her home by a druggy couple
Thank you for your service
Because if I see one more dumb person complain about dmg boost and res
I’ll just… Oml
I’m sorry you don’t know how to counter a Mercy?
Some of the new players piss me off is all
lovely content
Honestly all I want for the ult would be the old double rez as an ult (like the old valk, just without the valk) and make her e something else
What are your thoughts on the recent briggete changes?
I love this video ❤️
I won't say I agree with your takes, but the editing is really good
11:52 But people still complain about mercy having 67 hps ONLY when allies are below 50% hp laugh 😂
Like do they not realize she is now like literally every other main support?
You do realize that encourages healbotting tanks right? Because then it makes the tank near unkillable if they have armor and since the tank has more health for her to heal quicker because of their larger health pools, they have more time to heal 67 Hp/S, and because of that, mercy will also be very tank if their tank is taking a lot of damage meaning, she will be self healing herself enough that if anybody dives her, her tank can peel or DPS can cover the back line so she’s either constantly making hitscan a pain in the ass to play against, or more making tanks more unkillable than they already are
@@Fillr_ get good
@@commentbot9510 oh yeah REAL good rebuttal there pal
@@Fillr_ There is no point in arguing with people who think Mercy is overpowered because they either suck at the game or lack intelligence. Or they just have a biased hatred against her and will deny all logic and instead shout about how mercy mains are skill less, dramatic, cry babies. But I guess that could also be considered low intelligence.
@@commentbot9510 she’s literally the reason hitscan meta exists rn, fuck off like tell me how she isnt OP
You are such an underrated overwatch TH-camr
Honestly, people complain about Rez too damn much. The risk isn't worth the reward in a lot of cases with rezes. A lot of people who play Mercy values staying alive over the Rez any day. And if a Mercy is managing to get constant rezes off in a match, that typically means 1) you're getting destroyed and you need to change your hero or communicate better. Or 2) your team is ignoring the rezzing Mercy.
In the most recent Dev Take on Balance, they said they're gonna nerf Mercy's damage boost from 30% to 25%, when that doesn't even change any 1-shot breakpoints (there's no 155 damage shots in the game, and 160 damage shots would still 1-shot with 25% damage boost). Mercy is already low value, we don't need a value nerf to Mercy.
They need to buff Mercy, because at this point she's been trash for more than 5 years due to the November 2017 & January 2018 patches that over-nerfed Mercy.
Ignore the comments about the title. I personally think it’s hilarious.
Also great points made in this video. The “hero fantasy” is a really important factor in a game like this.
I just want to be able to zoom around again with GA :(
I just wanted to play Mercy. Now it’s kinda meaningless.
A friend that used to main mercy said...
For me now its NERFy.
the way to fix sojourn is to just revert all of her changes and then make it so railgun cant crit
Instead of damage boost she has a cooldown that will give nerfed damage boost + an instant burst of health and higher healing for a couple seconds if connected to a player with a beam.
If she doesn’t have a beam connected it becomes a projectile- if it hits a teammate, it applies the nerfed damage boost + an instant heal + healing overtime to anyone within the splash area of the projectile, it gives increased healing to whoever it direct impacts. If it hits an enemy it does direct impact and splash damage (not a lot) and also applies a damage dealt reduction (also not a lot, like, if a Widow full charge headshots you, you will have like 10 health or less (this effect also scales with distance, if you direct impact a widow it would do this, but if you hit the ground next to her you would still die, but you’d survive a lower damage attack, reinswing or something) this cooldown is like 3-7 seconds (around 5 in my mind, maybe less if you tweak numbers) like, maybe countering a widow headshot is too much, but taking a couple extra swings from a rein, numbers would need to make it so you can’t just infinitely cycle it and not die- or maybe this part should be scrapped and it just does healing and damage, maybe a weaker Ana nade effect where teammates get increased healing and it just damages enemies
Get rid of her pistol, instead she has an increased range melee that does a tiiiiny boop (like a mini rein swing, mini-mini) also may do increased damage or she can do a quick 1-2 with both ends of her staff
Her triage healing gets way nerfed or removed entirely (that’s the 50% thing right?) you won’t need it because the cooldown will be her new burst heal option
Sympathetic recovery can stay (that’s where she heals based on who she’s healing?) maybe even buff it but nerf it in Valkyrie per target-
during valkyrie that damage boost cooldown will be decreased (if it’s 7 go down to 5) GA also gets a decreased cooldown + you can now GA to enemies + enemy soul locations, almost like a Winston jump, shoot your projectile, dive in, hit them with your melee, GA back or if they’re still focusing someone else you can heal + get in another combo when your cooldown comes back- you can also add in a component where maybe there’s less teammates alive the healing beams do more healing? More teammates =less healing, less teammates = more healing, like everyone pulls from a pool of HP per sec, but when you first pop the ult whenever a teammate first gets hit with the beam they get a burst of 150 healing or something instantaneously
I hate the pistol, having to put away the staff, just make the melee and projectile her damage output
I think they could adjust GA cooldown a bit- I think when you first press it you should lunge forward to fly quickly, but the actual flight is a tiny bit slower, maybe her wings are a little bigger too, make her a bit easier to hit but let her move more frequently-fluidly, so if it’s easier to hit her mid GA you could decrease the cooldown
I’m not a huge mercy player but I play her sometimes and love movement characters so I totally get the gripe- she needs a burst heal but these changes have made her too tanky and taken a bit more away from her movement than I think most would like to see
Those are my basic changes- I’d also be down to replace Rez with a new movement + heal ability, I think she could swoosh the ground in a circle around her with her wings and staff-> send the enemies back from her-> she flies upward, holding her staff up sending beams of higher healing and applying an AOE to her teammates that reduce how much damage they take by like, idk, 30%? For a few seconds? Maybe more but it has a longer cooldown? Thinking it stays in the 10-15 second range, she can have her “heroes never die” moment because they take less damage, idk, taking Rez out would make her a lot easier to balance imo, would leave space for another movement ability, make her kit less volatile, GA changing would feel as heartbreaking if there’s still more movement cooldowns to juggle, it’s a more predictable movement making it easier to counter play
(Also, would it be so bad to make it so instead of being able to straight up fly in Valk, instead you get like 3x the power in GA, where you can fly much farther after release? And add in the ability to fly to enemies, you’ll have a lot of places to go, making straight up flight redundant and possibly broken? Not sure)
Those are just some ideas I’ve thrown around, I’ve gone through a lot of incarnations of her and Brig and Sym and Sombra and Mei and Zen lol (Sym and Sombra should be supports and Mei could be a tank)
(This is copied from a note I made awhile back)
Ain't readin allat
Yep. RIP Lore Mercy and welcome nuMercy, healer leech. Sometimes i think that new/current devs team just hates everything that was done before them. Look at how they love Kiriko now.
My teammates made me hate both mercy and Lucio
She's been dying for so long, they just mercy killed her lol
There's definitely a conversation to be had about one-shots and damage boost that's been due for quite some time now. And I honestly think the arguments in this video are pretty solid on this front.
However, the nerf to Guardian Angel is harder to justify. For the average player, Mercy was often just unkillable because you'd always be moving in unpredictable directions throughout the course of a fight. Providing a downtime between uses of the ability provides a vulnerability to the character that wasn't there prior. And frankly, the change is so minor that I'm surprised people have spoken up about it this much. The ability is functionally the same, so if not being able to go *woosh* for an extra second kills the fun of Mercy for some people, then like the video mentions, this is a bigger issue with Mercy's design philosophy.
Also resurrection is still a dumb ability. Forcing players to kill a character to prevent them from bringing a player back into the fight is a terrible design, especially when a character like Mercy can use abilities like Guardian Angel and Valkyrie to move while resurrecting, even when outside of line of sight to the resurrecting target. And sure, stuns exist... for tanks and Ana. But there really should be a more interactive way to stop resurrection without forcing/encouraging players to outright focus a Mercy player down. Personally, I'd rather there be some minimum threshold of damage that cancels the ability. From there, all players have a way to interact with Mercy's resurrect, and perhaps then we could adjust the cooldown being reset to a lower value, making the ability more impactful, but with effective counterplay that doesn't encourage the use of one-shots.
The problem with the GA nerf is that her kit lost synchronicity. Her beam breaks at the old time it did prior to the GA nerf, which used to be at the same rate as the GA cooldown. This meant you could keep up with your target. Now it breaks at the old rate but with GA being on twice as long a cooldown, you get left behind. Using the map for cover (like jumping off the map and using an ally as a beacon to keep yourself up) is impossible because the beam breaks before GA is off cooldown and you just die now. It removed a major aspect of how to position with Mercy in high levels of play. It also makes following airborn heroes MUCH harder because they just leave you behind now.
A lot of the complaints people have could be fixed if they’d just increase how long it took for beam breakage to happen once someone leaves range. It needs to be in line with GA’s cooldown, full stop. Decreasing the cooldown for GA would be what everyone that plays her wants but just increasing the beam linger would probably satisfy a lot of people without her going back to breaking the sound barrier.
Mercy a problem cuz it's 5 V 5 now, it's way harder to win a 5 V 4 than a 5 V 6, meaning 1 shots and mercy become a problem
5:39 so her damage boost is just a dev tool for balancing wow nice
Least dramatic support player
Im a firm beliver that the game would be better if they just deleted sojourn
Well mercys is not a main healer shes a flex healer
bro the fucking title and thumbnail in the context of her late voice actress is fucking insane
Nerfing Mercy because Souljourn can one tap with her. Is like arresting the murderer's parents instead of them under the premise the parents raised them wrongly
Thank you saying damage boost wasn’t the issue. Its sojourn it’s literally always been sojourn. Headshotting with her alt fire was always really dumb and would solve so many issues if it was removed
to nerf soujourn 1. remove headshots, 2. make body shots do 100 damage
4:15 gotta agree with the hanzo statement
Edit: pause after a lil bit to see it.
i feel like mercy has been nerfed so much that they just wanna run her into the ground and make her unplayable.
Looking for another main to play at the moment 🥺.
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I think if damage boost had a cooldown people wouldn't complaining that much, even if would let some dps one shot.
Rez in my opinion it's not a good ability, it's a type of skill that is only useful when your team makes a mistake, it's different from the others supports that can save and have impact before your team makes a mistake.
If I had my way with her....
- 60hps without ult
- 2.0 second GA cool down (if GA cool down buffs are not feasible, perhaps a longer beam range is), a good middle ground between pre-S3s 1.5s cool down and S3s 2.5s cool down
- 2.0/2.25 second resurrection cool down as a general balancing nerf
- 20 second valkyrie duration, and a slighty lower cost. Perhaps decrease beam range from 30m during valkyrie to 20/25m during valkyrie
- give her no additional healing to low-health allies, but give her 75-90hps only during her ultimate
- revert her new passive
No matter how you slice it, both the pre-S3 and S3 mercy's are not ideal. Pre-S3, she was simply nigh-on impossible to kill especially during what otherwise was a throw-away ultimate, whilst S3 mercy is simply sluggish and cumbersome to play, and annoying to manage healing/damage boosting when faced with the horde of often-played Cassidy's, Hanzo's, Ashes, and other one-hit high-damage characters in-game. I digress, I believe those proposed changes will make her more enjoyable to play than she is now, and more punishing when making mistakes than in her pre-S3 state subsequently making her easier to kill.
And thats why I didi play s3 of ow2. Now you put in words my feeling of the fantasy being dead. For GA 1.8 im fine with.
Remove railgun headshot multiplier, reduce spread on primary fire to continue to reward good, precise aim, maybe slow down projectile speed on primary too but keep railgun hitscan, I think is pretty good fix
The reason why dmg boost is a problem now is because it’s way better in a 5v5 than 6v6 same with the Res I think they need to completely rework mercy